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Speaker 2: So Michael Arry Show is on the air.

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Speaker 3: Out looking into Mica week. You gotta feed a bead.

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Speaker 3: that's the truth. It's neither drinking a drug injuice, noool,

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Speaker 1: It's a great.

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Speaker 3: Dad, bet Nor sun still shining of clothes.

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Speaker 4: Now you stay in Texas.

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Speaker 5: It will be tomorrow when all the work you've put

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Speaker 5: House will go toward electing a speaker. The problem is

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Speaker 5: perfect example, Lacey Hall, perfect example. We have eighty eight

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Speaker 5: big donors have with Ken Paxton, the attorney general, who's

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Speaker 5: So you've got the Will Metcalfs, and you've got the

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Speaker 5: He's got to commit to this, this and this. Now

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Speaker 5: If that happens, those Republicans are going to have a

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Speaker 5: But here's where this gets very interesting. If the Democrats

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Speaker 4: We really really really really really loved the flag.

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Speaker 5: And then Will Metcalf can come back to Montgomery County

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Speaker 5: and say, I went to Austin and I fought for you,

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Speaker 5: and I fought for the veterans, and I fought for

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Speaker 5: for grit An American spirit, for Paul Revere, Mickey mantle

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Speaker 4: I fought for having all the playoff games back to

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Speaker 4: the networks send me back again.

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Speaker 1: From Levisians to librarians, everyone listens to Michael Berry Show.

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Speaker 7: Readings and welcome.

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Speaker 3: Great to have you here.

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Speaker 6: It's Rush Limbaugh, the.

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Speaker 8: EiV Networking Hi, this is Amy from Ohio, and I

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Speaker 8: want to give a shout out to my adoptive dad,

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Speaker 8: Rush Limbaugh. He taught me more about my civic duty

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Speaker 6: Conservatives are not opposed to regulation, but regulation has to

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Speaker 6: be based on the fact that the individual is best

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Speaker 9: Hey, Michael, this is Rusty from San Antonio out here.

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Speaker 9: I'm a trucker with my German shepherd river Man. I

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Speaker 7: Ex cept except the exception to the rule is what

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Speaker 7: American exceptionalism is. And because of this liberty and freedom

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Speaker 7: that our country exists, because the founders recognized it comes

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Speaker 7: not granted by Putin, it's not granted by Obama or

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Speaker 10: Hey, Michael, it's Michael in the Geen, Texas. I remember

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Speaker 10: listening to that final Christmas Eve of Rushes, and I

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Speaker 10: remember the tears of the throat, Dona face. I was vacant.

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Speaker 3: This is those the last time I ever get to

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Speaker 7: Has anybody ever heard of Barack Hussein Obama?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember Rush Limbaugh?

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Speaker 9: He used to call it.

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Speaker 5: Kids, say, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 9: Today we'll be talking about.

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Speaker 1: Barack Hussein Obama.

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Speaker 9: That was Rush we miss Rush, we miss Rush.

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Speaker 2: We got the Presidential Medal of Freedom that beautiful night.

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Speaker 9: Do you remember that playing mass J Rush? We need you.

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Speaker 4: Rush folks, thank you so much.

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Speaker 7: than thank you.

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Speaker 5: You're just the best.

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Speaker 7: My family is just the best.

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Speaker 5: Yesterday was he's seventy fourth birthday of the great Rush Limbaugh.

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Speaker 5: I've learned from folks like Marcus Latrell the greatest honor

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Speaker 5: Since we're on the subject of scuttle butt. The rumor

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Speaker 5: That's not final, but that is definitely what I'm hearing.

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Speaker 2: SAT Representative Brian Harrison is one of the good guys, Okay,

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Speaker 5: One of about five guys that is in our corner

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Speaker 5: that is a MAGA guy, that's a Tea party guy,

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Speaker 5: Brian Harrison, Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 10: Michael Berry. Good morning. Always great to be with you,

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Speaker 5: So tell me where we are for tomorrow. I've had

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Speaker 11: You know what, If anybody tells you with any real certainty,

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Speaker 11: You almost gave me PTSD for my freshman orientation. After

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Speaker 10: You got to sit down.

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Speaker 5: So my understanding is you've got about thirty Democrats holding

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Speaker 10: And let me make the story a little bit worse

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Speaker 11: Because of the walk out, the temper tantrum by the

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Speaker 10: The reality is that for either.

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Speaker 5: And I don't think any voter that voted for you

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Speaker 10: And you know what, Michael, You've been watching this a

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Speaker 11: Every one of my Republican colleagues, they go out to

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Speaker 10: Make a choice.

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Speaker 5: It is just that simple. I saw it when I

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Speaker 10: It's the wild West.

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Speaker 11: You can go have a lobbyist take you out to

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Speaker 5: They Representative Brian Harrison. Good luck tomorrow.

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Speaker 11: Great to be with you, my friend.

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Speaker 10: God bless you, and God bless Texans, all.

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Speaker 1: Great cities in between. The Michael Berry Show is nationwide.

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Speaker 10: Revel rain.

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Speaker 5: For over twenty years, back when I was on Houston

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Speaker 5: had one. Now, interestingly, it didn't have to be this way,

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Speaker 5: but all those black mayors not orders. Many of those

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Speaker 5: black mayors were horrible. And the problem is, it's because

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Speaker 5: they're chosen by the same process that Sila Jackson Lee

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Speaker 5: came out of to be a congressman and then Sylvester

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Speaker 5: Turner replaced her. They're chosen by a power structure of

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Speaker 5: inside dealers who are the Black Affirmative Action Program directors.

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Speaker 5: The Rodney ellisis that's why you get black elected officials

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Speaker 5: that are so bad. It's not that there aren't good

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Speaker 5: black leaders, it's that those people are frozen out of

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Speaker 5: the black political power structure of the Democrat Party that

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Speaker 5: doesn't want good Black elected officials. No way, no how

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Speaker 5: uh huh. We don't want those guys around here. Those

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Speaker 5: guys are ethical, that'd blow the whistle on us. Those

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Speaker 5: guys are like Trump to the Bush Republican Party to

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Speaker 5: the Romney Republican Party. We can't have them that make

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Speaker 5: us look bad.

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Speaker 7: So Lee P.

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Speaker 5: Brown was chosen and Lee P. Brown was made mayor

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Speaker 5: nineteen ninety seven, and it was an inside deal. All

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Speaker 5: the lobby money got behind him, ran against Rob Mossbacker,

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Speaker 5: and under his tenure continued a policy of underfunding the

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Speaker 5: crime lab, which meant that evidence in crimes. In fact,

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Speaker 5: we had this come up last year. We're rape kits.

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Speaker 5: Can you imagine your wife, your daughter, your sister, your

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Speaker 5: mother is raped and you want to catch that son

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Speaker 5: of a bitch so bad you wish instead of sending

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Speaker 5: him to prison, just give you ten minutes with him

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Speaker 5: and a crowbar, or maybe you could do it with

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Speaker 5: your own hands. I'd need a crowbar do the kind

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Speaker 5: of damage I'd want to do, and maybe a lighter

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Speaker 5: in some gasoline. But that's a different story. And there

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Speaker 5: were leaks in the crime lab that allowed the evidence

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Speaker 5: to be destroyed, and that evidence is what enables you

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Speaker 5: to win in court when you finally catch the guy.

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Speaker 5: So you can imagine how frustrating this is. Way back

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Speaker 5: then we funded a crime lab redo that was going

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Speaker 5: to protect the evidence. And by the way, this isn't

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Speaker 5: the Houston police officer's fault. This is much bigger than

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Speaker 5: the officers themselves, not even their issue anymore. So now

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Speaker 5: we find out that after all all this, and this

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Speaker 5: happened with the rape kits and all, now we've got

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Speaker 5: a drug addicted rat infestation in the property room that

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Speaker 5: is raising questions about the integrity of criminal cases. It'd

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Speaker 5: be funny if it was. No it's funny. Doctor Peter

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Speaker 5: Stout of the Houston Forensic Science Center says, it's hard

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Speaker 5: getting rid of the rodents. They're drug addicted rodents. They're

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Speaker 5: tough to deal with. You don't say the story from

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Speaker 5: ABC thirteen, a.

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Speaker 12: Short tour of the HPD property room shows a cramped

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Speaker 12: space bursting at the seams, with one point two million

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Speaker 12: pieces of evidence, thousands of bikes, rows of old tires,

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Speaker 12: case files, old safes and luggage, and thousands of pounds

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Speaker 12: of drugs.

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Speaker 4: We got four hundred thousand pounds of marijuana in storage

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Speaker 4: that the rats are the only ones that join it.

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Speaker 13: So let's go to work.

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Speaker 12: The mayor seemingly cracking a joke but really revealing a problem.

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Speaker 13: They've had professional exterminators involved. But this is difficult getting

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Speaker 13: these rodents out of there. I mean, think about it.

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Speaker 13: They're drug addicted rats. They're tough to deal with.

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Speaker 12: The Houston Forensic Science Centers doctor Peter Stout saying it's

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Speaker 12: an issue. Many property rooms face.

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Speaker 13: Rodents, bugs, and fungus, all kinds of things love drugs.

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Speaker 12: Houston Police chief no idea as it says they first

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Speaker 12: discovered rodents among drug evidence in October, but says the

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Speaker 12: problem is confined.

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Speaker 14: We don't have an issue with current evidence. It is

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Speaker 14: the old evidence that's being stored near the current evidence

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Speaker 14: that's still pending the legal process.

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Speaker 15: How do the rats know what is a new case

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Speaker 15: and an old case.

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Speaker 12: Joe Venus is the president of the Harris Only Criminal

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Speaker 12: Lawyers Association, So they don't.

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Speaker 15: Can they read the labels on the boxes and say, oh,

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Speaker 15: you know, they don't need these drugs anymore. Let's go

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Speaker 15: have a party.

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Speaker 12: Venus has seen numerous crime lab and property room issues

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Speaker 12: over the years. This, he says, is just one more,

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Speaker 12: could cases be compromised.

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Speaker 15: Sure, anytime evidence is compromised and the case is potentially compromised.

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Speaker 12: The District Attorney's office going through old cases to see

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Speaker 12: what can be purged and providing funds to destroy old drugs.

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Speaker 13: We will be destroying any narcotics evidence that has been

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Speaker 13: obtained prior to twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 12: Venus wonders if this is just the tip of the iceberg.

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Speaker 15: When you find a rat hole, you know where they've

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Speaker 15: chewed a hole in the wall, They could be anywhere

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Speaker 15: in the interior of that building.

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Speaker 13: See.

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Speaker 5: It's moments like this that I wish my mother was

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Speaker 5: alive so I could call and say, Mom, did you

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Speaker 5: see this story? In Houston? They got rats, Eat up

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Speaker 5: with the dope, Just eat up with the dope. And

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Speaker 5: she wouldn't get the joke, and I would just.

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Speaker 2: Laugh and laugh and laugh.

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Speaker 5: Eat up with the dope. Dim rats are m m M. So,

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Speaker 5: just so you know, when you look at Los Angeles

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Speaker 5: and go, gosh, all those Democrats they've elected over all

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Speaker 5: those years, that's how come they have a fire spread

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Speaker 5: and task the results of your elections. People, that's what

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Speaker 5: you're living through. You see this right here, You see,

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Speaker 5: you see what's going on in the county. Let's not

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Speaker 5: get too proud, because I'm not sure our local Democrat

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Speaker 5: officials are any better. They got Karen Bass, we got

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Speaker 5: Sylvester Turner, Mitchello, Ultra