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Speaker 2: This is a cop uh attacked by a turkey, quacks
Speaker 2: at it like a duck and calls it a chicken.
Speaker 2: Here we go, the chicken chicken?
Speaker 3: What is.
Speaker 2: Oh? Come on quick quack hack hack, hack up? Somebody
Speaker 2: beck come get it? What yep? Back off? Yeah, here's
Speaker 2: your stuff back. I'll be right back man. I'm giving
Speaker 2: a second step for I'm getting a client. I feel
Speaker 2: like it. I feel like this is happening for all
Speaker 2: the places you can come. I feel like it lived
Speaker 2: up to its explanation. That was a cop attacked by turkey,
Speaker 2: quacking at it and calling it a chicken. Bro, put
Speaker 2: the turkey back. You need to spend a little more
Speaker 2: time in a navy are here or something.
Speaker 3: Well, he's taunting the bird. That can't help, you know what.
Speaker 3: A good cop tries to de escalate. My beloved newsmen
Speaker 3: of the past, Marshall Phillips would occasionally be confronted by
Speaker 3: aggressive turkeys during hot, hot turkey loven season, which we
Speaker 3: are in.
Speaker 2: We have more turkeys in my neighborhood. I gotta believe
Speaker 2: I got more turkeys around me than anybody listening in America.
Speaker 2: It's shocking how many turkeys are in my neighborhood. The
Speaker 2: big giant wild turkeys. They're huge for one thing, absolutely
Speaker 2: gigantic and mean as hell. During hot, hot, sexy turkey time.
Speaker 2: When I drive home today, there will be six of
Speaker 2: them sitting on my roof. Guaranteed eight more in the backyard.
Speaker 2: They're all over the place. They don't cause any problems.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're a little loud, they get into it. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I got to handle this very delicately. Okay, I
Speaker 2: want to handle it delicately for this very nice mom
Speaker 2: who sent us a text.
Speaker 3: I will switch into delicate mode on your advice, combined
Speaker 3: with harsh mode I think is necessary. So this this, well,
Speaker 3: this is why we can't have nice things.
Speaker 2: As the cliche goes, this is why demagoguing issues in
Speaker 2: politics works. I guess so an hour three, if you
Speaker 2: didn't hear it, get the podcast Armstrong and getting on demand.
Speaker 2: Joe got into the whole big beautiful bill medicaid thing.
Speaker 2: We're getting ripped off like crazy with Medicaid. We're gonna
Speaker 2: get into more of it tomorrow with Craig gottwaltsho was
Speaker 2: an expert in this. But we're getting ripped off like crazy,
Speaker 2: all kinds of healthy people. You're paying for their health
Speaker 2: care and other stuff for no good reason whatsoever other
Speaker 2: than then nobody keeps track of this sort of thing.
Speaker 3: And because it buys votes, that's like the entire reason
Speaker 3: you're paying for it.
Speaker 2: And Phil Graham, former senator from from Texas from back
Speaker 2: in the day, tried to run for president once, but
Speaker 2: he's way too smart to be president. As a PhD
Speaker 2: in economics, wrote a piece about how, no, this is
Speaker 2: where the money is. You talk about so security, you know,
Speaker 2: and cutbacks and everything like, No, the money where we
Speaker 2: need to do something is in medicaid. So we get
Speaker 2: this text. Hey, I have a daughter who's disabled and
Speaker 2: un Medicaid and Social Security, and I get that you
Speaker 2: guys are trying to get people riled up and listening
Speaker 2: to show and I'm a strong Republican. But what you're
Speaker 2: missing is and then she lays out the story of
Speaker 2: how her disabled daughter can't take care of herself at all,
Speaker 2: never will be able to in her life. Unbelievable, what
Speaker 2: you're dealing with. I can't even imagine, and how she
Speaker 2: needs that money and we don't have the courage to
Speaker 2: call her back and talk to her and get the
Speaker 2: facts on this story about her disabled daughter and how
Speaker 2: much she needs Medicaid.
Speaker 3: There will not be a single disabled person affected in
Speaker 3: any way by the proposed cuts, not one.
Speaker 2: And there isn't a single person us or anybody else
Speaker 2: arguing for someone like your daughter having their money cut. No,
Speaker 2: are you strenuously one hundred and eighty degrees in the
Speaker 2: other direction. This is why you demogogue these issues though,
Speaker 2: because he is its sir that yes, her poor daughter
Speaker 2: and she will be left high and dry by the
Speaker 2: mean Republicans. That is one hundred and eighty degrees opposite
Speaker 2: of the truth you said they've convinced her. We convinced
Speaker 2: her even with you only talking about the scammers. Right.
Speaker 2: Her takeaway was like you and I are in favor
Speaker 2: of cutting her daughter's money. I mean, if that's the
Speaker 2: way it lands, no wonder politicians don't come with on
Speaker 2: one hundred miles of even trying to stop the sky
Speaker 2: scumbag liars. Right. Yeah, it's unfortunate, isn't it. It is
Speaker 2: highly unfortunate, you could say, and we've seen this, We've
Speaker 2: been doing this for a long time. You can, as
Speaker 2: a politician stand up in front of a crowd and say, look,
Speaker 2: nobody here getting Social Security that's over the age of
Speaker 2: sixty five. We'll see any a dime of that cut
Speaker 2: in their lifetime. But and then everything after the butt
Speaker 2: gets portrayed as you, as an old person, are gonna starve, right,
Speaker 2: And it's just there's just no getting around it, apparently, right, Right, man,
Speaker 2: I feel for you, ma'am, what the rough situation you're
Speaker 2: in doing God's work trying to deal with that. But
Speaker 2: nobody us or anybody is suggesting cutting the program for
Speaker 2: people like your daughter. Nobody, right, we would have more
Speaker 2: money for people like your daughter if the freaking healthy,
Speaker 2: twenty eight year old dude playing video games and laughing
Speaker 2: at us. Wasn't getting all his stuff paid for? Right?
Speaker 2: I don't know what you do with the reality of this.
Speaker 2: I think if you were to sit down with Carl
Speaker 2: Rove and.
Speaker 3: James Marvelle, I'm trying to be by partner, maybe Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: Donald Trump, Charles Crouthammer, Jesus and John Wayne. That's quite
Speaker 3: a crowd, they would say, Jackie boy, Joseph, here's the story.
Speaker 2: That's what politics is. Grow up.
Speaker 3: You always talk about trying to frighten or entice the
Speaker 3: herd in one direction or another, as if you're too
Speaker 3: good and too smart for that.
Speaker 2: That's politics. I understand what you're saying, that the politicians
Speaker 2: go out there and try to frighten you on this stuff.
Speaker 2: What I'm concerned about is we made it clear we
Speaker 2: weren't trying. We weren't claiming they're coming for your to
Speaker 2: take your disabled daughter's better care. Politicians will say that
Speaker 2: sort of stuff medicaip. Yeah, we weren't. We were saying
Speaker 2: the opposite, and it's still landed as if we were.
Speaker 2: That's what troubles me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's squarely in the department of things
Speaker 3: I can't do anything about. It's uh, it's striking. I
Speaker 3: totally get your uh being troubled by that.
Speaker 2: Like I said, if you're a politician, you get up
Speaker 2: on stage and make it clear that I'm not interested
Speaker 2: in cutting your social security. But people walk out of
Speaker 2: the room thinking they're going to take my social security. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: that we're done here, then I guess yes, as a
Speaker 2: as a country, you mean yes, or as a system
Speaker 2: of government people, well, self governance doesn't work, that's my point.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Well, the great Scottish philosopher what's his face, uh,
Speaker 3: with the you know, the republic will last only until
Speaker 3: the populace realizes they can vote themselves money from the treasury.
Speaker 3: And and what he didn't suspect is that, or maybe
Speaker 3: he did, was that there that politicians would be able
Speaker 3: to convince virtually all of the population that any effort
Speaker 3: to rein that in was indeed an attack on them
Speaker 3: and their well being. So, yeah, it doesn't work.
Speaker 2: The great.
Speaker 3: You know, overarching Joe Getty principle, there are actually several
Speaker 3: of them, many of them contradict each other, is that
Speaker 3: all systems can last only until those who had gained
Speaker 3: the system when over those who would protect the system,
Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, the constant battle between hackers
Speaker 3: and cybersecurity experts. There comes a point in a like
Speaker 3: a governmental system where accommodation of manipulating the voters and
Speaker 3: then manipulating the systems behind the scenes becomes so sophisticated
Speaker 3: that the immune system of a democracy is insufficient. It's
Speaker 3: like a septic infection in the bloodstream. So monarchy now,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm old. You all figured out. Good luck.
Speaker 2: If you're old already. Nobody is gonna touch your social
Speaker 2: security period. No, if you are actually disabled, nobody's gonna
Speaker 2: take your money period. Nobody wants to.
Speaker 3: Nobody's even suggested it, right, and yet it is the
Speaker 3: easiest cell in the world. If any Republicans say we're
Speaker 3: gonna rain in medicaid waste fraud abuse, they're gonna come
Speaker 3: take the money out of the mouths of your disabled children,
Speaker 3: and people believe them.
Speaker 2: So what are you gonna do.
Speaker 3: I'm in an accepting mood today. I have accepted it,
Speaker 3: probably because I'm excited about my new political part party.
Speaker 2: The f y'all it cans. You gotta have AI design
Speaker 2: a logo, because that's a good I like the.
Speaker 3: Capital F capital y apostrophe all dash, I dash cans
Speaker 3: f y'all it cans. We need an animal, though maybe
Speaker 3: the turkey is the donkey and the elephant, or taken clearly,
Speaker 3: maybe we have the turkey, has heard in a previous clip.
Speaker 2: Which Ben Franklin wanted to be our national bird. So
Speaker 2: enough politics.
Speaker 3: I've got a couple of stories about business, about you know,
Speaker 3: personal wealth, that sort of thing. Number one, so you're
Speaker 3: a crypto zillionaire, I'd start carrying a gun, hiding a
Speaker 3: guard and keeping your fingers hidden. Secondly, pipes, who's making
Speaker 3: the real money? What's the way to wealth?
Speaker 2: Become one of the stealthy wealthy the stealthy wealthy. It's
Speaker 2: doable and better yet it rhymes. Also, I watched the
Speaker 2: Minecraft movie with Henry over the weekend. I want to talk, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to talk about a couple of notable things
Speaker 2: that I think might be the future of motion pictures.
Speaker 2: Jack Black is so fat and greasy and doesn't care.
Speaker 2: That's what's interesting about him. He's got to be one
Speaker 2: of the biggest movie stars in the world, very very
Speaker 2: big in terms of making money. Seems to be unbathed.
Speaker 2: He does not care at all. I think he just
Speaker 2: shows up to He doesn't care how he looks at all,
Speaker 2: doesn't comb his hair, he doesn't find a shirt that fits,
Speaker 2: he doesn't wash his face. Yeah, it's weird. Anyway, more
Speaker 2: on that later's there.
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Speaker 2: Multiple cameras rolling as a ship strikes the Brooklyn Bridge.
Speaker 2: I don't know. Why is the Mexican navy at attacking
Speaker 2: our bridges? And why have we not fired back? Well,
Speaker 2: they're not.
Speaker 3: Very good at it, Great Scott. Anybody who's seen the video? Man,
Speaker 3: I just saw one from a different angle. Ooh, grizzly.
Speaker 3: There are a bunch of guys Mexican sailors up in
Speaker 3: the riggings. They got knocked down when they hit the
Speaker 3: Brooklyn Bridge.
Speaker 2: Oh they so it was a really tall ship. So
Speaker 2: as they were heading toward it, weren't there people weren't there?
Speaker 2: Weren't the people up there saying, well, that looks like
Speaker 2: that's about eye level. I'm getting held down. How don't
Speaker 2: we care if I got ordered to or not? Have
Speaker 2: we thought this through because that looks like we're not
Speaker 2: going to fit under there. Yeah, I think they lost
Speaker 2: power or something like that. Sketchy reports.
Speaker 3: It's a lot like going that cargo ship bashed into
Speaker 3: the bridge in Baltimore.
Speaker 2: Speaking of boats, are you familiar with the premise of
Speaker 2: the television show Gilligan's Island from the sixties, Because some
Speaker 2: of you might not be.
Speaker 3: There's a bunch of helpfully laid out in the theme
Speaker 3: song every week if you need did a reminder.
Speaker 2: Back in the old days, they would tell you, I.
Speaker 3: Don't remember why these people were on there, what circumstances
Speaker 3: caused them to be so stranded.
Speaker 2: Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale. Back
Speaker 2: in the old days, they would lay out the premise
Speaker 2: of the show every week in the song for you.
Speaker 2: That was very, very handy. You take the take, you good,
Speaker 2: you take the bad, the facts of life, whatever the
Speaker 2: show was, they would tell you. But anyway, here's the
Speaker 2: story of a man named Brady exactly. But so you
Speaker 2: got you got this boat that ran into an island
Speaker 2: and they got stuck there, and the whole show is
Speaker 2: about they're stuck on this island and dealing with each other,
Speaker 2: and and you got cannibals, and.
Speaker 3: They're disconcertingly ineffective efforts to leave.
Speaker 2: Anyway, I thought this was really good from James Lindsay,
Speaker 2: who were big intellectual fans of On Twitter, he said,
Speaker 2: I think we often overestimate how much worse some things
Speaker 2: are now than they were in the past, And he
Speaker 2: linked this story about Gilligan's Island, which says at the
Speaker 2: height of Gilligan's Island popularity, which was nineteen sixty six,
Speaker 2: the US Coast Guard received twenty five hundred letters a
Speaker 2: week asking why the castaways hadn't been rescued yet.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, with James'sa's point being, see, we've always been
Speaker 4: a bunch of morons, or I had a lot of morons.
Speaker 2: I've got to take a moment to absorb that.
Speaker 3: And I assume they mean sincere letters, not like trolling
Speaker 3: by mail.
Speaker 2: I don't think trolling was a thing back then. Certainly
Speaker 2: you wouldn't take the time by mail twenty five hundred
Speaker 2: a week a week asking the Coastguard why they hadn't
Speaker 2: rescued Gilligan the Skipper and oh, in particular, if I'm
Speaker 2: a Coastguard mail, a young twenty two year old in Coastguard,
Speaker 2: I'm rescuing Marianne and Ginger right off the bat. Sure
Speaker 2: women and children first, Florius, that guy from that seventies
Speaker 2: what's that that Twitter feed? Everybody likes the seventies? Something wrong?
Speaker 2: Oh oh super seventy sports. He said, as you get older,
Speaker 2: you look at missus Howe and realize there's a third
Speaker 2: viable option on that alle.
Speaker 3: She was an attractive woman. Yeah, absolutely, ages, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Well, so many.
Speaker 3: Questions, how was the skipper still a peese after being
Speaker 3: stranded at an island for years?
Speaker 2: Going on? There metabolism problem, but so he did some
Speaker 2: wagovi the ultimate point being, and I think James Linzy
Speaker 2: makes a good point. We do overestimate the the percentage
Speaker 2: of people that are dumb or don't pay attention or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's not like everybody in the sixties or the eighteen
Speaker 2: fifties or whatever. We're learning Latin and studying the constitution,
Speaker 2: like Thomas Jefferson. Yeah right right, yeah, yeah, so true,
Speaker 2: Deer Coast Guard, why haven't you rescued?
Speaker 3: Gilligan signed for people are desperate and desperately incompetent they
Speaker 3: can't even build a raft.
Speaker 2: What is my tax money going? So you thought every
Speaker 2: TV show you were watching was a reality show in
Speaker 2: the sixties.
Speaker 3: And they didn't like ask why don't the camera people
Speaker 3: rescue them?
Speaker 2: That didn't even occur to them. No, boy, that is
Speaker 2: really dumb. Or the orchestra playing the music when you
Speaker 2: come back from commercials. They could have helped.
Speaker 1: Good Jack, Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show,
Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show.
Speaker 3: Joanna Stern writes about tech for The Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 3: She's very clever, as you're about to hear, and sounds
Speaker 3: down to earth and as I enjoy your writing.
Speaker 2: The opening a bit of this article tells it all.
Speaker 3: I've been wearing a wire everywhere since February. I've got
Speaker 3: all the transcripts important meetings, arguments with my kids, chats
Speaker 3: with disgruntled employees, late night bathroom routines. There's plenty more
Speaker 3: that I can't share if I want you to keep
Speaker 3: liking me. She has been willingly wearing a fifty dollars
Speaker 3: be Pioneer bracelet that records everything she says and uses
Speaker 3: AI to summarize her life and send her helpful reminders.
Speaker 3: Getting back to the article, I also tested two similar gadgets,
Speaker 3: the one hundred and ninety nine dollars Limitless Pendant and
Speaker 3: the one hundred and fifty nine.
Speaker 2: Dollars plowd Note pin.
Speaker 3: These assistants can recall every dumb, private, and cringe worthy
Speaker 3: thing that came out of my mouth. Is this the
Speaker 3: dawn of the AI surveillance state? Absolutely? Is it also
Speaker 3: the dream of hyper personal, all knowing AI assistance coming
Speaker 3: to life?
Speaker 2: Also? Yes? Absolutely? Yeah, it's funny. The first thing I
Speaker 2: thought of was, and usually I'm I'm my first go
Speaker 2: to is surveillance state. But my first thought was, Wow,
Speaker 2: if I had AI reminding me, hey, remember you're going
Speaker 2: to work on that to get in your real ID
Speaker 2: the deadline's coming up, I would love that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I was just gonna say, if y'all are sitting
Speaker 3: there thinking what the hell good would this do me?
Speaker 3: She gets to that and it's pretty cool. Let me
Speaker 3: read more of her piece. Within hours of wearing the
Speaker 3: bee again, one of the three devices she tried, I
Speaker 3: was blown away how quickly it turned ramblings and random
Speaker 3: chatter into useful, actionable information yet allow me to quote
Speaker 3: myself from February twenty fourth at five point fifteen pm. Wow. Quote,
Speaker 3: this bracelet is really effing creepy. So here's how they work.
Speaker 3: And she mentions that all the denials we've heard through
Speaker 3: the years that social media apps are secretly listening to
Speaker 3: us too hard, too intense, too much data. Buhah, yeah, please,
Speaker 3: But all those devices do that. They detect dialogue, especially
Speaker 3: your voice, and they stream the audio to your phone
Speaker 3: via Bluetooth, then to companies where it's transcribed. AI models
Speaker 3: take the transcription and generate summaries, which appear in the
Speaker 3: apps within minutes. Now, one of the devices that does
Speaker 3: not save the audio.
Speaker 2: All it has is the transcriptions.
Speaker 3: The other one, limitless keeps the audio, letting you play
Speaker 3: back full recordings of everything you've said.
Speaker 2: Boy, oh boy, oh boy. But it's a little weird
Speaker 2: for us because I have full recordings of what I
Speaker 2: say four hours a day, five days a week the
Speaker 2: past thirty years. But so it's not as foreign to me.
Speaker 2: But but that'd be something.
Speaker 3: But you and I also have a heightened awareness of
Speaker 3: the difference between when the mics are on and when
Speaker 3: they're not. True and more than one good career has
Speaker 3: been ended because a mic was on somebody thought it
Speaker 3: was not. I've had a few disagree that bullet a
Speaker 3: couple of times ourselves.
Speaker 2: I've had a few disagreements in my life, like minor
Speaker 2: to major. Where would have been kind of handy to
Speaker 2: be able to go back and say, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 2: you didn't mention that to me. They said, yeah, I did.
Speaker 3: It's like to screen the commercials. Who is it an
Speaker 3: insurance commercial? Guy, I can't remember. Let's go to the
Speaker 3: tape and they go under the hood, right like NFL referees.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Katie, I'm just thinking this sounds like a
Speaker 2: wife's dream. The amount of time, like I told you
Speaker 2: we have dinner tonight at five, No you didn't. All
Speaker 2: let's go to the tape. Let's go to the tape, sir.
Speaker 2: That's fantastic.
Speaker 3: Then she gets into some of the technical ups and downs,
Speaker 3: and Katie would love to have you comment on this
Speaker 3: to your heart's content. But and she gets into how
Speaker 3: AI is nothing without data. It needs data. So when
Speaker 3: you feed it everything you've said for days, weeks, and months,
Speaker 3: it gets infinitely more useful. Also, yes, it becomes a
Speaker 3: lot more like a black Mirror episode. But we'll get
Speaker 3: into that. She writes with massive transcripts of your life.
Speaker 3: The AI in these apps? Can they recap your conversations?
Speaker 3: Often reading like a bad biography? This is great. The
Speaker 3: b device summary from April ninths Joanna's day was a
Speaker 3: blend of familiar responsibilities and intense professional engagements. She ended
Speaker 3: the day listening to music by sting riveting stuff. Can't
Speaker 3: wait for the movie adaptation.
Speaker 2: Wow, there'd be some days. Excuse me, there'd be some days.
Speaker 2: Read me disappointed in the summary. You worked, you came home,
Speaker 2: you scrolled through Twitter, you ate crap and went to bed.
Speaker 2: Oh my your own business?
Speaker 1: AI.
Speaker 2: Who Jack has eating his twenty seventh double quarter pounder
Speaker 2: in this week? Yeah? Yeah, thanks?
Speaker 3: Wow track, Yeah it's Kenton, I am. The transcriptions themselves
Speaker 3: aren't all that accurate, but the summaries usually are well,
Speaker 3: except for March twenty fourth conversation with Johnny Cochrane about
Speaker 3: trial evidence.
Speaker 2: Yep, just a.
Speaker 3: Casual chat with a deceased celebrity lawyer, and she says,
Speaker 3: in parentheses, I was watching the new OJ documentary.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 3: But Jack, to your prescient point earlier, some of the
Speaker 3: ways that they're helpful is summarizing things and reminders. Turns
Speaker 3: out I promise to do a lot of things without
Speaker 3: putting them on a to do list. B listens for
Speaker 3: action items and adds them to suggested lists because they
Speaker 3: understand the verbiage in an action item. It's repeatedly reminded
Speaker 3: me of important tasks like calling the plumber or following
Speaker 3: up on work stuff. But it also hilariously adds things
Speaker 3: I'd never put on a list, like quote, check in
Speaker 3: on your six son, or schedule a follow up with
Speaker 3: your hairstylist to discuss your haircut.
Speaker 2: Let's see it analyzes, God, how great would that be?
Speaker 2: I'll bet this happens soon. And like a lot of
Speaker 2: things in life, we can't remember what it was like
Speaker 2: before it where you know, in ten years will be
Speaker 2: remember when you like now? Where I often think, you know,
Speaker 2: I go somewhere and I think, how did I used
Speaker 2: to get to places? I don't even remember how I
Speaker 2: used to get to places? Did I pull on a map?
Speaker 2: Or how did I even do it? Ask friendly strangers, right, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: Sometimes you'd pull into a gas station and say, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm looking for the sporting goods store, which I know
Speaker 2: is around here somewhere, but I could see here in
Speaker 2: a couple of years. Would be like, do you remember
Speaker 2: when you used to have to remember things or write
Speaker 2: them down on a post it note instead of having
Speaker 2: AI tell me, remember your son's got the volleyball game,
Speaker 2: so you got to pick them up from school early.
Speaker 2: That sort of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I can't be the only person assembled friends
Speaker 3: who is not great at making to do lists. And
Speaker 3: how many times have I said, let me Jeff, Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I won't bother, I'll remember it. I'll remember to make
Speaker 3: to do lists. How many times have I said when
Speaker 3: I think of it, I don't have time, and when
Speaker 3: I have time, I don't think of it. Correct Anyway,
Speaker 3: here's another thing it does both be and limitless. Have chatbots,
Speaker 3: you see, you can ask about your recorded life. I
Speaker 3: asked B for a detailed breakdown of my cursing habits
Speaker 3: daily average two point four curses. Please, you're not even trying, sweetheart,
Speaker 3: But it.
Speaker 2: Can be what are you a nun? Yeah? Two point
Speaker 2: four a day? Yeah, well it's impressive. Well she has kids,
Speaker 2: good for you? Well, well, yeah, you're never in the
Speaker 2: car alone and on my blanking way.
Speaker 3: But then she says it can be genuinely helpful, like quote,
Speaker 3: look through my chats with Ethan from B and tell
Speaker 3: me what AI model it uses. So reminders of factual
Speaker 3: things you heard in a conversation that are a little fuzzy.
Speaker 2: Now, God, I'm starting to think I might so all
Speaker 2: of this surveillance stuff we've all opted in, We've all
Speaker 2: decided we're going to carry around a tracking device with
Speaker 2: us all the time, and we all know that we
Speaker 2: just feel like the advantages outweigh the possible disadvantages. I
Speaker 2: think this might end up being true for recording everything.
Speaker 2: I say that the advantages will outweigh the you know
Speaker 2: how it could be misused? God, if you could quickly
Speaker 2: you wouldn't even have to listen to the conversation. If
Speaker 2: a I could go back through the transcript and it
Speaker 2: would say, yeah, your wife did tell you that you
Speaker 2: had dinner to night at five? Oh cramp eh um,
Speaker 2: or no they didn't. It might be handy. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: tell you. I would describe myself.
Speaker 3: And again I have a feeling I'm not unique in
Speaker 3: this is busy, well meaning and absent minded. And if
Speaker 3: my what sits could say to me, hey, remember you
Speaker 3: agreed to play golf with Gordy tomorrow afternoon. I'd be like, oh, shoot, right,
Speaker 3: because you know that's one of my great weaknesses.
Speaker 2: So here's how And you're built that way or you're not.
Speaker 2: It's so obvious because I got two kids that are
Speaker 2: completely different. I got one kid that's very close to
Speaker 2: me on terms of that stuff, kind of like you
Speaker 2: just describe my other kid. It's just all locked in
Speaker 2: his brain all the time. He knows where everything is,
Speaker 2: he knows what's on the schedule today, he knows. He
Speaker 2: just it's all there all the time. Yeah, but I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't try harder and that way. Yeah.
Speaker 3: One of the reasons my wife and I have escaped
Speaker 3: financial ruin and other bad fates is she's meticulous, and
Speaker 3: so you know when she like pays a bill late,
Speaker 3: it's alert the media. Now it's just what anyway, how
Speaker 3: they're creepy. February twenty third, five point fifteen, In a
Speaker 3: conversation with my mom, This bracelet has nothing to do
Speaker 3: with fitness.
Speaker 2: It records everything that's being said.
Speaker 3: As her mom was asking her, Nobody I'd talked to
Speaker 3: over the past few months would have known I was
Speaker 3: recording them if I hadn't told them. It's a little
Speaker 3: fun like I'm a low budget Ethan Hunt.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't get that references by some sort.
Speaker 3: Mostly though, I just felt like a creep and depending
Speaker 3: on the state, I might have been breaking the law.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the other side of this, all that conversation stuff.
Speaker 2: Both ends of it should be uh as into it
Speaker 2: as maybe I would be. Otherwise, you're recording all your
Speaker 2: friends conversations. That's that's that's pretty dicey. And then.
Speaker 3: Some of these are just hilarious because they have transcripts
Speaker 3: and summaries right of your various conversations. This one's labeled
Speaker 3: interaction with pet dog Browser. I think it's Bowser, but
Speaker 3: maybe it is Browser. That's a very writer a thing
Speaker 3: to name your dog. Here's the transcript. Someone scolded browser
Speaker 3: for chewing something Speaker one, Browser, What are you doing?
Speaker 3: Speaker one again? Can you not chew your whatever? Speaker
Speaker 3: one again?
Speaker 2: Browser? Some good transcripts. Yeah, oh, that is some useful stuff.
Speaker 3: Most of my recordings were in New Jersey and New York,
Speaker 3: which are one party consent states, and I'd agreed, but
Speaker 3: if I were in one of about a dozen states
Speaker 3: that require two party consent. I need permission from everyone
Speaker 3: in earshot or end up with a possible civil liability case.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how that's gonna work, and states where you
Speaker 2: got to have two party consent.
Speaker 3: And then she quotes a lawyer, Jack, who surprisingly says
Speaker 3: you better not, which is what lawyers are paid to say.
Speaker 3: More specifically, he says I would make sure everyone has
Speaker 3: consented verbally, and while the risk might be low, he adds,
Speaker 3: we would never recommend people take that risk.
Speaker 2: Well, geez, I mean if somebody walks up to me
Speaker 2: and says, I wear a device that records all of
Speaker 2: our conversations, just want to make sure that's okay with you,
Speaker 2: I'd be an automatic no f f all the way
Speaker 2: off exactly how far away can you get in the
Speaker 2: next ten seconds? Get there? How does this benefit me
Speaker 2: in any way? There's only downside.
Speaker 3: So any thoughts, usefulness, hazards, etcetera. Drop us a note
Speaker 3: mail bag at Armstrong and getty dot com. We'll hit
Speaker 3: them around the same time tomorrow.
Speaker 2: During the show, he kind of reminded me of stuff though,
Speaker 2: remembers what I said. That'd be cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if they could refine it to promises and actions.
Speaker 3: And of course, you know, in the scenario we've we've
Speaker 3: talked about a couple of times, it would have to
Speaker 3: be recording my wife saying, don't don't forget we're having
Speaker 3: dinner with the Joneses next Tuesday.
Speaker 2: But it does it also record remember the other night
Speaker 2: when you said you'd blank my blank. Oh no, you
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: Of course, it'd be good to have a transcript. Funny
Speaker 3: right here in black and white.
Speaker 2: I see it's here. Not trying to be argumentative here,
Speaker 2: but read the transfer eight seventeen on April the third.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just a fact.
Speaker 1: Strong The Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5: Show a shadowy network called seven sixty four whose goal
Speaker 5: is to spark violence and chaos around the world, in
Speaker 5: part by luring in unsuspecting teenagers. Seven sixty four targets
Speaker 5: kids on social media and gaming platforms, extorting them into
Speaker 5: sending violent and sexual content. The FBI is warning parents
Speaker 5: to pay attention to who their kids are talking to
Speaker 5: on social media and gaming platforms.
Speaker 2: The FBI's investigating more.
Speaker 5: Than two hundred and fifty suspects tied to seven sixty four,
Speaker 5: with every.
Speaker 2: Field office involved. Well, that's just dandy. I am a
Speaker 2: parent of teenagers who'd never even heard of that in
Speaker 2: my life until two seconds ago. So that's just great.
Speaker 2: Let's just put that on the long list of things
Speaker 2: you can be concerned about if your kid's got a phone.
Speaker 3: Not so fast, there's more to be concerned about if
Speaker 3: your kid has a phone. I was just reading that
Speaker 3: the hacker ring that you may remember put Vegas out
Speaker 3: of commission?
Speaker 2: What was that six months ago?
Speaker 3: A year ago? I don't know, time flies when year old,
Speaker 3: but they brought down all those casinos for a time.
Speaker 3: That is a very loosely assembled group of bored, malcontent,
Speaker 3: mischievous youngsters who call themselves the con something like that,
Speaker 3: and this specific subgroup of the subgroup calls themselves scattered Spider,
Speaker 3: I guess, and they just they hack into various corporations
Speaker 3: and companies and government institutions and stuff like that for
Speaker 3: fun and mischief, and sometimes they steal, but sometimes they.
Speaker 2: Just screw with it. That whole keep track of who
Speaker 2: your kids talk to on social media and everything like
Speaker 2: that sounded a lot easier before, well before my kids
Speaker 2: got old enough to be involved in that world, and
Speaker 2: as far as I can tell, I'm more strict than
Speaker 2: a lot of my son's friends parents are, and it's
Speaker 2: still just I mean, there's just so many opportunities for
Speaker 2: them to be involved with bad people. I mean, unless
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be over his shoulder all the time, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was a very big fan as a parent, partly
Speaker 3: for that reason, and I completely support the idea of
Speaker 3: trying not to trying to eliminate opportunities to do bad
Speaker 3: things one hundred percent. But I realized at one point
Speaker 3: what you're talking about, and so I just really emphasized
Speaker 3: the underlying principles right behind doing some things and not
Speaker 3: doing some things, and how extremely important they were to
Speaker 3: me as their dad and their moms certainly, but how
Speaker 3: important and fundamentally they are to being a good person
Speaker 3: and a bad person. And then when they're loose on
Speaker 3: the town and they're presented with temptation, you hope and
Speaker 3: pray they make the right choice, and or if they
Speaker 3: make the wrong choice, it's not a disaster, right, which.
Speaker 2: Has a lot to do with their friend group and
Speaker 2: everything else, which has always been true, And the opportunity
Speaker 2: to get in trouble is exponentially greater now than it
Speaker 2: was twenty years ago. I mean, it's just a completely
Speaker 2: different world. You couldn't order heroin and in a machine
Speaker 2: gun from any tiny town in America when I was
Speaker 2: in high school, or come across a you know, an
Speaker 2: international pedophile sex ring. It just wasn't gonna happen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, I know.
Speaker 3: I was going to bring up a kind of vague
Speaker 3: philosophical theme about the modern world. Don't really have time
Speaker 3: to get into it now, but.
Speaker 2: Has to do.
Speaker 3: And I can't get into specifics in my little world. Really,
Speaker 3: You'll have to forgive me for that for now. But
Speaker 3: a friend of mine characterized kind of a mood as
Speaker 3: the slime from the Ghostbusters movies, the original Ghostbuster, the
Speaker 3: early eighties, classic early eighties, like eighties three.
Speaker 2: When was that out?
Speaker 3: Anyway, You may recall that when all the ghosts were
Speaker 3: running wild in New York City, one of the things
Speaker 3: they did was like spread this green slime around. The
Speaker 3: effect it had was not just you know, green slime
Speaker 3: is effect enough, yck, but but it caused New Yorkers
Speaker 3: to be angry and disagreeable and turn on each other.
Speaker 2: And we're just gussing a very local context. And also.
Speaker 3: The angst and unhappiness of youth, and the fact that
Speaker 3: incumbents all over the developed world are getting tossed out
Speaker 3: of office, and the parties that have been fairly stable
Speaker 3: and in power, you know, they switch places now and again,
Speaker 3: but they're just getting tossed aside. There is a near
Speaker 3: global feeling of angst and unhappiness that I don't.
Speaker 2: Ever recall before. True What do we do with this information?
Speaker 2: To do about it? We get used to it, do
Speaker 2: we settle into some or it just keeps getting worse
Speaker 2: by heroin and machine guns on the internet, like you're
Speaker 2: discussing earlier
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