WEBVTT - The A&G Replay Friday Hour One

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Jettie and he.

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<v Speaker 1>Armrong and Strong.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 2>We are on vacation, but boy, do we have some

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<v Speaker 2>good stuff for you. Yes, indeed we do.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you want to catch up on your ang

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<v Speaker 3>listening during your travels, remember grabbing the podcast Armstrong and

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<v Speaker 3>Getty on demand. You ought to subscribe wherever you like

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<v Speaker 3>to get podcasts. Now on with the infotainment.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a cop uh attacked by a turkey, quacks

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<v Speaker 2>at it like a duck and calls it a chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go, the chicken chicken?

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<v Speaker 3>What is.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Come on quick quack hack hack, hack up? Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>beck come get it? What yep? Back off? Yeah, here's

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<v Speaker 2>your stuff back. I'll be right back man. I'm giving

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<v Speaker 2>a second step for I'm getting a client. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it. I feel like this is happening for all

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<v Speaker 2>the places you can come. I feel like it lived

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<v Speaker 2>up to its explanation. That was a cop attacked by turkey,

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<v Speaker 2>quacking at it and calling it a chicken. Bro, put

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<v Speaker 2>the turkey back. You need to spend a little more

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<v Speaker 2>time in a navy are here or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he's taunting the bird. That can't help, you know what.

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<v Speaker 3>A good cop tries to de escalate. My beloved newsmen

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<v Speaker 3>of the past, Marshall Phillips would occasionally be confronted by

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<v Speaker 3>aggressive turkeys during hot, hot turkey loven season, which we

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<v Speaker 3>are in.

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<v Speaker 2>We have more turkeys in my neighborhood. I gotta believe

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<v Speaker 2>I got more turkeys around me than anybody listening in America.

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<v Speaker 2>It's shocking how many turkeys are in my neighborhood. The

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<v Speaker 2>big giant wild turkeys. They're huge for one thing, absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>gigantic and mean as hell. During hot, hot, sexy turkey time.

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<v Speaker 2>When I drive home today, there will be six of

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<v Speaker 2>them sitting on my roof. Guaranteed eight more in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 2>They're all over the place. They don't cause any problems.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes they're a little loud, they get into it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so I got to handle this very delicately. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>want to handle it delicately for this very nice mom

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<v Speaker 2>who sent us a text.

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<v Speaker 3>I will switch into delicate mode on your advice, combined

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<v Speaker 3>with harsh mode I think is necessary. So this this, well,

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<v Speaker 3>this is why we can't have nice things.

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<v Speaker 2>As the cliche goes, this is why demagoguing issues in

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<v Speaker 2>politics works. I guess so an hour three, if you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't hear it, get the podcast Armstrong and getting on demand.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe got into the whole big beautiful bill medicaid thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We're getting ripped off like crazy with Medicaid. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get into more of it tomorrow with Craig gottwaltsho was

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<v Speaker 2>an expert in this. But we're getting ripped off like crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of healthy people. You're paying for their health

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<v Speaker 2>care and other stuff for no good reason whatsoever other

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<v Speaker 2>than then nobody keeps track of this sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And because it buys votes, that's like the entire reason

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<v Speaker 3>you're paying for it.

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<v Speaker 2>And Phil Graham, former senator from from Texas from back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day, tried to run for president once, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's way too smart to be president. As a PhD

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<v Speaker 2>in economics, wrote a piece about how, no, this is

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<v Speaker 2>where the money is. You talk about so security, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and cutbacks and everything like, No, the money where we

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<v Speaker 2>need to do something is in medicaid. So we get

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<v Speaker 2>this text. Hey, I have a daughter who's disabled and

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<v Speaker 2>un Medicaid and Social Security, and I get that you

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<v Speaker 2>guys are trying to get people riled up and listening

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<v Speaker 2>to show and I'm a strong Republican. But what you're

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<v Speaker 2>missing is and then she lays out the story of

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<v Speaker 2>how her disabled daughter can't take care of herself at all,

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<v Speaker 2>never will be able to in her life. Unbelievable, what

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<v Speaker 2>you're dealing with. I can't even imagine, and how she

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<v Speaker 2>needs that money and we don't have the courage to

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<v Speaker 2>call her back and talk to her and get the

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<v Speaker 2>facts on this story about her disabled daughter and how

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<v Speaker 2>much she needs Medicaid.

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<v Speaker 3>There will not be a single disabled person affected in

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<v Speaker 3>any way by the proposed cuts, not one.

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<v Speaker 2>And there isn't a single person us or anybody else

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<v Speaker 2>arguing for someone like your daughter having their money cut. No,

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<v Speaker 2>are you strenuously one hundred and eighty degrees in the

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<v Speaker 2>other direction. This is why you demogogue these issues though,

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<v Speaker 2>because he is its sir that yes, her poor daughter

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<v Speaker 2>and she will be left high and dry by the

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<v Speaker 2>mean Republicans. That is one hundred and eighty degrees opposite

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<v Speaker 2>of the truth you said they've convinced her. We convinced

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<v Speaker 2>her even with you only talking about the scammers. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Her takeaway was like you and I are in favor

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<v Speaker 2>of cutting her daughter's money. I mean, if that's the

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<v Speaker 2>way it lands, no wonder politicians don't come with on

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred miles of even trying to stop the sky

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<v Speaker 2>scumbag liars. Right. Yeah, it's unfortunate, isn't it. It is

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<v Speaker 2>highly unfortunate, you could say, and we've seen this, We've

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<v Speaker 2>been doing this for a long time. You can, as

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<v Speaker 2>a politician stand up in front of a crowd and say, look,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody here getting Social Security that's over the age of

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five. We'll see any a dime of that cut

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<v Speaker 2>in their lifetime. But and then everything after the butt

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<v Speaker 2>gets portrayed as you, as an old person, are gonna starve, right,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just there's just no getting around it, apparently, right, Right, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel for you, ma'am, what the rough situation you're

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<v Speaker 2>in doing God's work trying to deal with that. But

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<v Speaker 2>nobody us or anybody is suggesting cutting the program for

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<v Speaker 2>people like your daughter. Nobody, right, we would have more

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<v Speaker 2>money for people like your daughter if the freaking healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight year old dude playing video games and laughing

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<v Speaker 2>at us. Wasn't getting all his stuff paid for? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you do with the reality of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you were to sit down with Carl

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<v Speaker 2>Rove and.

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<v Speaker 3>James Marvelle, I'm trying to be by partner, maybe Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump, Charles Crouthammer, Jesus and John Wayne. That's quite

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<v Speaker 3>a crowd, they would say, Jackie boy, Joseph, here's the story.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what politics is. Grow up.

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<v Speaker 3>You always talk about trying to frighten or entice the

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<v Speaker 3>herd in one direction or another, as if you're too

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<v Speaker 3>good and too smart for that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's politics. I understand what you're saying, that the politicians

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<v Speaker 2>go out there and try to frighten you on this stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm concerned about is we made it clear we

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<v Speaker 2>weren't trying. We weren't claiming they're coming for your to

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<v Speaker 2>take your disabled daughter's better care. Politicians will say that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of stuff medicaip. Yeah, we weren't. We were saying

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite, and it's still landed as if we were.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what troubles me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's squarely in the department of things

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<v Speaker 3>I can't do anything about. It's uh, it's striking. I

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<v Speaker 3>totally get your uh being troubled by that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, if you're a politician, you get up

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<v Speaker 2>on stage and make it clear that I'm not interested

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<v Speaker 2>in cutting your social security. But people walk out of

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<v Speaker 2>the room thinking they're going to take my social security. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that we're done here, then I guess yes, as a

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<v Speaker 2>as a country, you mean yes, or as a system

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<v Speaker 2>of government people, well, self governance doesn't work, that's my point.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, Well, the great Scottish philosopher what's his face, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>with the you know, the republic will last only until

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<v Speaker 3>the populace realizes they can vote themselves money from the treasury.

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<v Speaker 3>And and what he didn't suspect is that, or maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he did, was that there that politicians would be able

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<v Speaker 3>to convince virtually all of the population that any effort

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<v Speaker 3>to rein that in was indeed an attack on them

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<v Speaker 3>and their well being. So, yeah, it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>The great.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, overarching Joe Getty principle, there are actually several

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<v Speaker 3>of them, many of them contradict each other, is that

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<v Speaker 3>all systems can last only until those who had gained

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<v Speaker 3>the system when over those who would protect the system,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like, you know, the constant battle between hackers

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<v Speaker 3>and cybersecurity experts. There comes a point in a like

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<v Speaker 3>a governmental system where accommodation of manipulating the voters and

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<v Speaker 3>then manipulating the systems behind the scenes becomes so sophisticated

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<v Speaker 3>that the immune system of a democracy is insufficient. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like a septic infection in the bloodstream. So monarchy now,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I'm old. You all figured out. Good luck.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're old already. Nobody is gonna touch your social

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<v Speaker 2>security period. No, if you are actually disabled, nobody's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>take your money period. Nobody wants to.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody's even suggested it, right, and yet it is the

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<v Speaker 3>easiest cell in the world. If any Republicans say we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna rain in medicaid waste fraud abuse, they're gonna come

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<v Speaker 3>take the money out of the mouths of your disabled children,

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<v Speaker 3>and people believe them.

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<v Speaker 2>So what are you gonna do.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in an accepting mood today. I have accepted it,

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<v Speaker 3>probably because I'm excited about my new political part party.

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<v Speaker 2>The f y'all it cans. You gotta have AI design

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<v Speaker 2>a logo, because that's a good I like the.

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<v Speaker 3>Capital F capital y apostrophe all dash, I dash cans

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<v Speaker 3>f y'all it cans. We need an animal, though maybe

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<v Speaker 3>the turkey is the donkey and the elephant, or taken clearly,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe we have the turkey, has heard in a previous clip.

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<v Speaker 2>Which Ben Franklin wanted to be our national bird. So

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<v Speaker 2>enough politics.

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a couple of stories about business, about you know,

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<v Speaker 3>personal wealth, that sort of thing. Number one, so you're

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<v Speaker 3>a crypto zillionaire, I'd start carrying a gun, hiding a

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<v Speaker 3>guard and keeping your fingers hidden. Secondly, pipes, who's making

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<v Speaker 3>the real money? What's the way to wealth?

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<v Speaker 2>Become one of the stealthy wealthy the stealthy wealthy. It's

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<v Speaker 2>doable and better yet it rhymes. Also, I watched the

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<v Speaker 2>Minecraft movie with Henry over the weekend. I want to talk, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about a couple of notable things

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<v Speaker 2>that I think might be the future of motion pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Black is so fat and greasy and doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's interesting about him. He's got to be one

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest movie stars in the world, very very

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<v Speaker 2>big in terms of making money. Seems to be unbathed.

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<v Speaker 2>He does not care at all. I think he just

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<v Speaker 2>shows up to He doesn't care how he looks at all,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't comb his hair, he doesn't find a shirt that fits,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't wash his face. Yeah, it's weird. Anyway, more

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<v Speaker 2>on that later's there.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show. Jack

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<v Speaker 1>arms Strong and Joe Getty The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Multiple cameras rolling as a ship strikes the Brooklyn Bridge.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Why is the Mexican navy at attacking

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<v Speaker 2>our bridges? And why have we not fired back? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not.

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<v Speaker 3>Very good at it, Great Scott. Anybody who's seen the video? Man,

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<v Speaker 3>I just saw one from a different angle. Ooh, grizzly.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a bunch of guys Mexican sailors up in

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<v Speaker 3>the riggings. They got knocked down when they hit the

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<v Speaker 3>Brooklyn Bridge.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh they so it was a really tall ship. So

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<v Speaker 2>as they were heading toward it, weren't there people weren't there?

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<v Speaker 2>Weren't the people up there saying, well, that looks like

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<v Speaker 2>that's about eye level. I'm getting held down. How don't

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<v Speaker 2>we care if I got ordered to or not? Have

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<v Speaker 2>we thought this through because that looks like we're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to fit under there. Yeah, I think they lost

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<v Speaker 2>power or something like that. Sketchy reports.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot like going that cargo ship bashed into

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<v Speaker 3>the bridge in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of boats, are you familiar with the premise of

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<v Speaker 2>the television show Gilligan's Island from the sixties, Because some

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<v Speaker 2>of you might not be.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a bunch of helpfully laid out in the theme

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<v Speaker 3>song every week if you need did a reminder.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in the old days, they would tell you, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't remember why these people were on there, what circumstances

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<v Speaker 3>caused them to be so stranded.

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<v Speaker 2>Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale. Back

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<v Speaker 2>in the old days, they would lay out the premise

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<v Speaker 2>of the show every week in the song for you.

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<v Speaker 2>That was very, very handy. You take the take, you good,

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<v Speaker 2>you take the bad, the facts of life, whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>show was, they would tell you. But anyway, here's the

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<v Speaker 2>story of a man named Brady exactly. But so you

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<v Speaker 2>got you got this boat that ran into an island

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<v Speaker 2>and they got stuck there, and the whole show is

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<v Speaker 2>about they're stuck on this island and dealing with each other,

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<v Speaker 2>and and you got cannibals, and.

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<v Speaker 3>They're disconcertingly ineffective efforts to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I thought this was really good from James Lindsay,

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<v Speaker 2>who were big intellectual fans of On Twitter, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we often overestimate how much worse some things

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<v Speaker 2>are now than they were in the past, And he

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<v Speaker 2>linked this story about Gilligan's Island, which says at the

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<v Speaker 2>height of Gilligan's Island popularity, which was nineteen sixty six,

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<v Speaker 2>the US Coast Guard received twenty five hundred letters a

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<v Speaker 2>week asking why the castaways hadn't been rescued yet.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, with James'sa's point being, see, we've always been

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of morons, or I had a lot of morons.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to take a moment to absorb that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I assume they mean sincere letters, not like trolling

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<v Speaker 3>by mail.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think trolling was a thing back then. Certainly

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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't take the time by mail twenty five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>a week a week asking the Coastguard why they hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>rescued Gilligan the Skipper and oh, in particular, if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a Coastguard mail, a young twenty two year old in Coastguard,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm rescuing Marianne and Ginger right off the bat. Sure

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<v Speaker 2>women and children first, Florius, that guy from that seventies

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<v Speaker 2>what's that that Twitter feed? Everybody likes the seventies? Something wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh super seventy sports. He said, as you get older,

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<v Speaker 2>you look at missus Howe and realize there's a third

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<v Speaker 2>viable option on that alle.

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<v Speaker 3>She was an attractive woman. Yeah, absolutely, ages, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so many.

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<v Speaker 3>Questions, how was the skipper still a peese after being

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<v Speaker 3>stranded at an island for years?

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<v Speaker 2>Going on? There metabolism problem, but so he did some

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<v Speaker 2>wagovi the ultimate point being, and I think James Linzy

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<v Speaker 2>makes a good point. We do overestimate the the percentage

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<v Speaker 2>of people that are dumb or don't pay attention or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like everybody in the sixties or the eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifties or whatever. We're learning Latin and studying the constitution,

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<v Speaker 2>like Thomas Jefferson. Yeah right right, yeah, yeah, so true,

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<v Speaker 2>Deer Coast Guard, why haven't you rescued?

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<v Speaker 3>Gilligan signed for people are desperate and desperately incompetent they

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<v Speaker 3>can't even build a raft.

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<v Speaker 2>What is my tax money going? So you thought every

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<v Speaker 2>TV show you were watching was a reality show in

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<v Speaker 2>the sixties.

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<v Speaker 3>And they didn't like ask why don't the camera people

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<v Speaker 3>rescue them?

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<v Speaker 2>That didn't even occur to them. No, boy, that is

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<v Speaker 2>really dumb. Or the orchestra playing the music when you

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<v Speaker 2>come back from commercials. They could have helped.

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<v Speaker 1>Good Jack, Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show,

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<v Speaker 1>The Armstrong and Getty Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Joanna Stern writes about tech for The Wall Street Journal.

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<v Speaker 3>She's very clever, as you're about to hear, and sounds

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<v Speaker 3>down to earth and as I enjoy your writing.

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<v Speaker 2>The opening a bit of this article tells it all.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been wearing a wire everywhere since February. I've got

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<v Speaker 3>all the transcripts important meetings, arguments with my kids, chats

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<v Speaker 3>with disgruntled employees, late night bathroom routines. There's plenty more

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<v Speaker 3>that I can't share if I want you to keep

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<v Speaker 3>liking me. She has been willingly wearing a fifty dollars

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<v Speaker 3>be Pioneer bracelet that records everything she says and uses

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<v Speaker 3>AI to summarize her life and send her helpful reminders.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting back to the article, I also tested two similar gadgets,

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<v Speaker 3>the one hundred and ninety nine dollars Limitless Pendant and

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<v Speaker 3>the one hundred and fifty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Dollars plowd Note pin.

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<v Speaker 3>These assistants can recall every dumb, private, and cringe worthy

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<v Speaker 3>thing that came out of my mouth. Is this the

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<v Speaker 3>dawn of the AI surveillance state? Absolutely? Is it also

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<v Speaker 3>the dream of hyper personal, all knowing AI assistance coming

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<v Speaker 3>to life?

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<v Speaker 2>Also? Yes? Absolutely? Yeah, it's funny. The first thing I

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<v Speaker 2>thought of was, and usually I'm I'm my first go

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<v Speaker 2>to is surveillance state. But my first thought was, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>if I had AI reminding me, hey, remember you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to work on that to get in your real ID

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<v Speaker 2>the deadline's coming up, I would love that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was just gonna say, if y'all are sitting

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<v Speaker 3>there thinking what the hell good would this do me?

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<v Speaker 3>She gets to that and it's pretty cool. Let me

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<v Speaker 3>read more of her piece. Within hours of wearing the

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<v Speaker 3>bee again, one of the three devices she tried, I

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<v Speaker 3>was blown away how quickly it turned ramblings and random

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<v Speaker 3>chatter into useful, actionable information yet allow me to quote

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<v Speaker 3>myself from February twenty fourth at five point fifteen pm. Wow. Quote,

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<v Speaker 3>this bracelet is really effing creepy. So here's how they work.

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<v Speaker 3>And she mentions that all the denials we've heard through

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<v Speaker 3>the years that social media apps are secretly listening to

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<v Speaker 3>us too hard, too intense, too much data. Buhah, yeah, please,

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<v Speaker 3>But all those devices do that. They detect dialogue, especially

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<v Speaker 3>your voice, and they stream the audio to your phone

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<v Speaker 3>via Bluetooth, then to companies where it's transcribed. AI models

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<v Speaker 3>take the transcription and generate summaries, which appear in the

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<v Speaker 3>apps within minutes. Now, one of the devices that does

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<v Speaker 3>not save the audio.

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<v Speaker 2>All it has is the transcriptions.

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<v Speaker 3>The other one, limitless keeps the audio, letting you play

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<v Speaker 3>back full recordings of everything you've said.

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<v Speaker 2>Boy, oh boy, oh boy. But it's a little weird

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<v Speaker 2>for us because I have full recordings of what I

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<v Speaker 2>say four hours a day, five days a week the

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<v Speaker 2>past thirty years. But so it's not as foreign to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But but that'd be something.

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<v Speaker 3>But you and I also have a heightened awareness of

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<v Speaker 3>the difference between when the mics are on and when

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<v Speaker 3>they're not. True and more than one good career has

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<v Speaker 3>been ended because a mic was on somebody thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was not. I've had a few disagree that bullet a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of times ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had a few disagreements in my life, like minor

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<v Speaker 2>to major. Where would have been kind of handy to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to go back and say, I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't mention that to me. They said, yeah, I did.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like to screen the commercials. Who is it an

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<v Speaker 3>insurance commercial? Guy, I can't remember. Let's go to the

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<v Speaker 3>tape and they go under the hood, right like NFL referees.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, Katie, I'm just thinking this sounds like a

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<v Speaker 2>wife's dream. The amount of time, like I told you

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<v Speaker 2>we have dinner tonight at five, No you didn't. All

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<v Speaker 2>let's go to the tape. Let's go to the tape, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Then she gets into some of the technical ups and downs,

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<v Speaker 3>and Katie would love to have you comment on this

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<v Speaker 3>to your heart's content. But and she gets into how

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<v Speaker 3>AI is nothing without data. It needs data. So when

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<v Speaker 3>you feed it everything you've said for days, weeks, and months,

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<v Speaker 3>it gets infinitely more useful. Also, yes, it becomes a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more like a black Mirror episode. But we'll get

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<v Speaker 3>into that. She writes with massive transcripts of your life.

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<v Speaker 3>The AI in these apps? Can they recap your conversations?

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<v Speaker 3>Often reading like a bad biography? This is great. The

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<v Speaker 3>b device summary from April ninths Joanna's day was a

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<v Speaker 3>blend of familiar responsibilities and intense professional engagements. She ended

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<v Speaker 3>the day listening to music by sting riveting stuff. Can't

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<v Speaker 3>wait for the movie adaptation.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, there'd be some days. Excuse me, there'd be some days.

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<v Speaker 2>Read me disappointed in the summary. You worked, you came home,

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<v Speaker 2>you scrolled through Twitter, you ate crap and went to bed.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my your own business?

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<v Speaker 1>AI.

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<v Speaker 2>Who Jack has eating his twenty seventh double quarter pounder

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<v Speaker 2>in this week? Yeah? Yeah, thanks?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow track, Yeah it's Kenton, I am. The transcriptions themselves

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<v Speaker 3>aren't all that accurate, but the summaries usually are well,

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<v Speaker 3>except for March twenty fourth conversation with Johnny Cochrane about

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<v Speaker 3>trial evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, just a.

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<v Speaker 3>Casual chat with a deceased celebrity lawyer, and she says,

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<v Speaker 3>in parentheses, I was watching the new OJ documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>But Jack, to your prescient point earlier, some of the

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<v Speaker 3>ways that they're helpful is summarizing things and reminders. Turns

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<v Speaker 3>out I promise to do a lot of things without

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<v Speaker 3>putting them on a to do list. B listens for

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<v Speaker 3>action items and adds them to suggested lists because they

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<v Speaker 3>understand the verbiage in an action item. It's repeatedly reminded

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<v Speaker 3>me of important tasks like calling the plumber or following

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<v Speaker 3>up on work stuff. But it also hilariously adds things

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<v Speaker 3>I'd never put on a list, like quote, check in

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<v Speaker 3>on your six son, or schedule a follow up with

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<v Speaker 3>your hairstylist to discuss your haircut.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see it analyzes, God, how great would that be?

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bet this happens soon. And like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>things in life, we can't remember what it was like

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<v Speaker 2>before it where you know, in ten years will be

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<v Speaker 2>remember when you like now? Where I often think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I go somewhere and I think, how did I used

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<v Speaker 2>to get to places? I don't even remember how I

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<v Speaker 2>used to get to places? Did I pull on a map?

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<v Speaker 2>Or how did I even do it? Ask friendly strangers, right, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you'd pull into a gas station and say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking for the sporting goods store, which I know

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<v Speaker 2>is around here somewhere, but I could see here in

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of years. Would be like, do you remember

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<v Speaker 2>when you used to have to remember things or write

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<v Speaker 2>them down on a post it note instead of having

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<v Speaker 2>AI tell me, remember your son's got the volleyball game,

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<v Speaker 2>so you got to pick them up from school early.

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<v Speaker 2>That sort of.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, I can't be the only person assembled friends

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<v Speaker 3>who is not great at making to do lists. And

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<v Speaker 3>how many times have I said, let me Jeff, Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I won't bother, I'll remember it. I'll remember to make

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<v Speaker 3>to do lists. How many times have I said when

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<v Speaker 3>I think of it, I don't have time, and when

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<v Speaker 3>I have time, I don't think of it. Correct Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>here's another thing it does both be and limitless. Have chatbots,

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<v Speaker 3>you see, you can ask about your recorded life. I

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<v Speaker 3>asked B for a detailed breakdown of my cursing habits

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<v Speaker 3>daily average two point four curses. Please, you're not even trying, sweetheart,

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<v Speaker 3>But it.

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<v Speaker 2>Can be what are you a nun? Yeah? Two point

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<v Speaker 2>four a day? Yeah, well it's impressive. Well she has kids,

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<v Speaker 2>good for you? Well, well, yeah, you're never in the

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<v Speaker 2>car alone and on my blanking way.

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<v Speaker 3>But then she says it can be genuinely helpful, like quote,

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<v Speaker 3>look through my chats with Ethan from B and tell

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<v Speaker 3>me what AI model it uses. So reminders of factual

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<v Speaker 3>things you heard in a conversation that are a little fuzzy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, God, I'm starting to think I might so all

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<v Speaker 2>of this surveillance stuff we've all opted in, We've all

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<v Speaker 2>decided we're going to carry around a tracking device with

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<v Speaker 2>us all the time, and we all know that we

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<v Speaker 2>just feel like the advantages outweigh the possible disadvantages. I

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<v Speaker 2>think this might end up being true for recording everything.

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<v Speaker 2>I say that the advantages will outweigh the you know

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<v Speaker 2>how it could be misused? God, if you could quickly

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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't even have to listen to the conversation. If

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<v Speaker 2>a I could go back through the transcript and it

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<v Speaker 2>would say, yeah, your wife did tell you that you

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<v Speaker 2>had dinner to night at five? Oh cramp eh um,

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<v Speaker 2>or no they didn't. It might be handy. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>tell you. I would describe myself.

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<v Speaker 3>And again I have a feeling I'm not unique in

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<v Speaker 3>this is busy, well meaning and absent minded. And if

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<v Speaker 3>my what sits could say to me, hey, remember you

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<v Speaker 3>agreed to play golf with Gordy tomorrow afternoon. I'd be like, oh, shoot, right,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know that's one of my great weaknesses.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's how And you're built that way or you're not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so obvious because I got two kids that are

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<v Speaker 2>completely different. I got one kid that's very close to

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<v Speaker 2>me on terms of that stuff, kind of like you

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<v Speaker 2>just describe my other kid. It's just all locked in

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<v Speaker 2>his brain all the time. He knows where everything is,

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<v Speaker 2>he knows what's on the schedule today, he knows. He

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<v Speaker 2>just it's all there all the time. Yeah, but I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't try harder and that way. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the reasons my wife and I have escaped

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<v Speaker 3>financial ruin and other bad fates is she's meticulous, and

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<v Speaker 3>so you know when she like pays a bill late,

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<v Speaker 3>it's alert the media. Now it's just what anyway, how

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<v Speaker 3>they're creepy. February twenty third, five point fifteen, In a

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<v Speaker 3>conversation with my mom, This bracelet has nothing to do

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<v Speaker 3>with fitness.

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<v Speaker 2>It records everything that's being said.

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<v Speaker 3>As her mom was asking her, Nobody I'd talked to

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<v Speaker 3>over the past few months would have known I was

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<v Speaker 3>recording them if I hadn't told them. It's a little

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<v Speaker 3>fun like I'm a low budget Ethan Hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't get that references by some sort.

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<v Speaker 3>Mostly though, I just felt like a creep and depending

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<v Speaker 3>on the state, I might have been breaking the law.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the other side of this, all that conversation stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Both ends of it should be uh as into it

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<v Speaker 2>as maybe I would be. Otherwise, you're recording all your

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<v Speaker 2>friends conversations. That's that's that's pretty dicey. And then.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of these are just hilarious because they have transcripts

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<v Speaker 3>and summaries right of your various conversations. This one's labeled

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<v Speaker 3>interaction with pet dog Browser. I think it's Bowser, but

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it is Browser. That's a very writer a thing

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<v Speaker 3>to name your dog. Here's the transcript. Someone scolded browser

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<v Speaker 3>for chewing something Speaker one, Browser, What are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Speaker one again? Can you not chew your whatever? Speaker

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<v Speaker 3>one again?

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<v Speaker 2>Browser? Some good transcripts. Yeah, oh, that is some useful stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Most of my recordings were in New Jersey and New York,

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<v Speaker 3>which are one party consent states, and I'd agreed, but

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<v Speaker 3>if I were in one of about a dozen states

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<v Speaker 3>that require two party consent. I need permission from everyone

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<v Speaker 3>in earshot or end up with a possible civil liability case.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's how that's gonna work, and states where you

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<v Speaker 2>got to have two party consent.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she quotes a lawyer, Jack, who surprisingly says

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<v Speaker 3>you better not, which is what lawyers are paid to say.

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<v Speaker 3>More specifically, he says I would make sure everyone has

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<v Speaker 3>consented verbally, and while the risk might be low, he adds,

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<v Speaker 3>we would never recommend people take that risk.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, geez, I mean if somebody walks up to me

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<v Speaker 2>and says, I wear a device that records all of

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<v Speaker 2>our conversations, just want to make sure that's okay with you,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be an automatic no f f all the way

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<v Speaker 2>off exactly how far away can you get in the

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<v Speaker 2>next ten seconds? Get there? How does this benefit me

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<v Speaker 2>in any way? There's only downside.

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<v Speaker 3>So any thoughts, usefulness, hazards, etcetera. Drop us a note

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<v Speaker 3>mail bag at Armstrong and getty dot com. We'll hit

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<v Speaker 3>them around the same time tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>During the show, he kind of reminded me of stuff though,

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<v Speaker 2>remembers what I said. That'd be cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if they could refine it to promises and actions.

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<v Speaker 3>And of course, you know, in the scenario we've we've

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<v Speaker 3>talked about a couple of times, it would have to

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<v Speaker 3>be recording my wife saying, don't don't forget we're having

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<v Speaker 3>dinner with the Joneses next Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>But it does it also record remember the other night

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<v Speaker 2>when you said you'd blank my blank. Oh no, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, it'd be good to have a transcript. Funny

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<v Speaker 3>right here in black and white.

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<v Speaker 2>I see it's here. Not trying to be argumentative here,

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<v Speaker 2>but read the transfer eight seventeen on April the third.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just it's just a fact.

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<v Speaker 1>Strong The Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 5>Show a shadowy network called seven sixty four whose goal

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<v Speaker 5>is to spark violence and chaos around the world, in

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<v Speaker 5>part by luring in unsuspecting teenagers. Seven sixty four targets

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<v Speaker 5>kids on social media and gaming platforms, extorting them into

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<v Speaker 5>sending violent and sexual content. The FBI is warning parents

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<v Speaker 5>to pay attention to who their kids are talking to

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<v Speaker 5>on social media and gaming platforms.

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<v Speaker 2>The FBI's investigating more.

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<v Speaker 5>Than two hundred and fifty suspects tied to seven sixty four,

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<v Speaker 5>with every.

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<v Speaker 2>Field office involved. Well, that's just dandy. I am a

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<v Speaker 2>parent of teenagers who'd never even heard of that in

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<v Speaker 2>my life until two seconds ago. So that's just great.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just put that on the long list of things

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<v Speaker 2>you can be concerned about if your kid's got a phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Not so fast, there's more to be concerned about if

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<v Speaker 3>your kid has a phone. I was just reading that

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<v Speaker 3>the hacker ring that you may remember put Vegas out

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<v Speaker 3>of commission?

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<v Speaker 2>What was that six months ago?

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<v Speaker 3>A year ago? I don't know, time flies when year old,

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<v Speaker 3>but they brought down all those casinos for a time.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a very loosely assembled group of bored, malcontent,

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<v Speaker 3>mischievous youngsters who call themselves the con something like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and this specific subgroup of the subgroup calls themselves scattered Spider,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, and they just they hack into various corporations

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<v Speaker 3>and companies and government institutions and stuff like that for

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<v Speaker 3>fun and mischief, and sometimes they steal, but sometimes they.

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<v Speaker 2>Just screw with it. That whole keep track of who

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<v Speaker 2>your kids talk to on social media and everything like

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<v Speaker 2>that sounded a lot easier before, well before my kids

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<v Speaker 2>got old enough to be involved in that world, and

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<v Speaker 2>as far as I can tell, I'm more strict than

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of my son's friends parents are, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>still just I mean, there's just so many opportunities for

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<v Speaker 2>them to be involved with bad people. I mean, unless

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be over his shoulder all the time, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I was a very big fan as a parent, partly

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<v Speaker 3>for that reason, and I completely support the idea of

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<v Speaker 3>trying not to trying to eliminate opportunities to do bad

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<v Speaker 3>things one hundred percent. But I realized at one point

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<v Speaker 3>what you're talking about, and so I just really emphasized

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<v Speaker 3>the underlying principles right behind doing some things and not

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<v Speaker 3>doing some things, and how extremely important they were to

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<v Speaker 3>me as their dad and their moms certainly, but how

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<v Speaker 3>important and fundamentally they are to being a good person

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<v Speaker 3>and a bad person. And then when they're loose on

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<v Speaker 3>the town and they're presented with temptation, you hope and

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<v Speaker 3>pray they make the right choice, and or if they

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<v Speaker 3>make the wrong choice, it's not a disaster, right, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Has a lot to do with their friend group and

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<v Speaker 2>everything else, which has always been true, And the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to get in trouble is exponentially greater now than it

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<v Speaker 2>was twenty years ago. I mean, it's just a completely

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<v Speaker 2>different world. You couldn't order heroin and in a machine

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<v Speaker 2>gun from any tiny town in America when I was

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<v Speaker 2>in high school, or come across a you know, an

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<v Speaker 2>international pedophile sex ring. It just wasn't gonna happen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to bring up a kind of vague

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<v Speaker 3>philosophical theme about the modern world. Don't really have time

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<v Speaker 3>to get into it now, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Has to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And I can't get into specifics in my little world. Really,

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<v Speaker 3>You'll have to forgive me for that for now. But

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<v Speaker 3>a friend of mine characterized kind of a mood as

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<v Speaker 3>the slime from the Ghostbusters movies, the original Ghostbuster, the

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<v Speaker 3>early eighties, classic early eighties, like eighties three.

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<v Speaker 2>When was that out?

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, You may recall that when all the ghosts were

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<v Speaker 3>running wild in New York City, one of the things

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<v Speaker 3>they did was like spread this green slime around. The

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<v Speaker 3>effect it had was not just you know, green slime

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<v Speaker 3>is effect enough, yck, but but it caused New Yorkers

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<v Speaker 3>to be angry and disagreeable and turn on each other.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're just gussing a very local context. And also.

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<v Speaker 3>The angst and unhappiness of youth, and the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>incumbents all over the developed world are getting tossed out

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<v Speaker 3>of office, and the parties that have been fairly stable

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<v Speaker 3>and in power, you know, they switch places now and again,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're just getting tossed aside. There is a near

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<v Speaker 3>global feeling of angst and unhappiness that I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever recall before. True What do we do with this information?

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<v Speaker 2>To do about it? We get used to it, do

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<v Speaker 2>we settle into some or it just keeps getting worse

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<v Speaker 2>by heroin and machine guns on the internet, like you're

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<v Speaker 2>discussing earlier

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