1 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Jettie and he. 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: Armrong and Strong. 5 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 2: Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty Show. 6 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: We are on vacation, but boy, do we have some 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: good stuff for you. Yes, indeed we do. 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 3: And if you want to catch up on your ang 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: listening during your travels, remember grabbing the podcast Armstrong and 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 3: Getty on demand. You ought to subscribe wherever you like 11 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 3: to get podcasts. Now on with the infotainment. 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: This is a cop uh attacked by a turkey, quacks 13 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 2: at it like a duck and calls it a chicken. 14 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: Here we go, the chicken chicken? 15 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: What is. 16 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: Oh? Come on quick quack hack hack, hack up? Somebody 17 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: beck come get it? What yep? Back off? Yeah, here's 18 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: your stuff back. I'll be right back man. I'm giving 19 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 2: a second step for I'm getting a client. I feel 20 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: like it. I feel like this is happening for all 21 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: the places you can come. I feel like it lived 22 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 2: up to its explanation. That was a cop attacked by turkey, 23 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: quacking at it and calling it a chicken. Bro, put 24 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: the turkey back. You need to spend a little more 25 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: time in a navy are here or something. 26 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: Well, he's taunting the bird. That can't help, you know what. 27 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: A good cop tries to de escalate. My beloved newsmen 28 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 3: of the past, Marshall Phillips would occasionally be confronted by 29 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 3: aggressive turkeys during hot, hot turkey loven season, which we 30 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: are in. 31 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: We have more turkeys in my neighborhood. I gotta believe 32 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: I got more turkeys around me than anybody listening in America. 33 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: It's shocking how many turkeys are in my neighborhood. The 34 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 2: big giant wild turkeys. They're huge for one thing, absolutely 35 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: gigantic and mean as hell. During hot, hot, sexy turkey time. 36 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: When I drive home today, there will be six of 37 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: them sitting on my roof. Guaranteed eight more in the backyard. 38 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: They're all over the place. They don't cause any problems. 39 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: Sometimes they're a little loud, they get into it. Okay, 40 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: so I got to handle this very delicately. Okay, I 41 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: want to handle it delicately for this very nice mom 42 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: who sent us a text. 43 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 3: I will switch into delicate mode on your advice, combined 44 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: with harsh mode I think is necessary. So this this, well, 45 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: this is why we can't have nice things. 46 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: As the cliche goes, this is why demagoguing issues in 47 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: politics works. I guess so an hour three, if you 48 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 2: didn't hear it, get the podcast Armstrong and getting on demand. 49 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: Joe got into the whole big beautiful bill medicaid thing. 50 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: We're getting ripped off like crazy with Medicaid. We're gonna 51 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: get into more of it tomorrow with Craig gottwaltsho was 52 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: an expert in this. But we're getting ripped off like crazy, 53 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: all kinds of healthy people. You're paying for their health 54 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: care and other stuff for no good reason whatsoever other 55 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: than then nobody keeps track of this sort of thing. 56 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 3: And because it buys votes, that's like the entire reason 57 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: you're paying for it. 58 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: And Phil Graham, former senator from from Texas from back 59 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: in the day, tried to run for president once, but 60 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 2: he's way too smart to be president. As a PhD 61 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: in economics, wrote a piece about how, no, this is 62 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: where the money is. You talk about so security, you know, 63 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: and cutbacks and everything like, No, the money where we 64 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 2: need to do something is in medicaid. So we get 65 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: this text. Hey, I have a daughter who's disabled and 66 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: un Medicaid and Social Security, and I get that you 67 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: guys are trying to get people riled up and listening 68 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: to show and I'm a strong Republican. But what you're 69 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: missing is and then she lays out the story of 70 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: how her disabled daughter can't take care of herself at all, 71 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: never will be able to in her life. Unbelievable, what 72 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: you're dealing with. I can't even imagine, and how she 73 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: needs that money and we don't have the courage to 74 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: call her back and talk to her and get the 75 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 2: facts on this story about her disabled daughter and how 76 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: much she needs Medicaid. 77 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 3: There will not be a single disabled person affected in 78 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: any way by the proposed cuts, not one. 79 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: And there isn't a single person us or anybody else 80 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: arguing for someone like your daughter having their money cut. No, 81 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: are you strenuously one hundred and eighty degrees in the 82 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: other direction. This is why you demogogue these issues though, 83 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: because he is its sir that yes, her poor daughter 84 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: and she will be left high and dry by the 85 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: mean Republicans. That is one hundred and eighty degrees opposite 86 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: of the truth you said they've convinced her. We convinced 87 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 2: her even with you only talking about the scammers. Right. 88 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: Her takeaway was like you and I are in favor 89 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 2: of cutting her daughter's money. I mean, if that's the 90 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 2: way it lands, no wonder politicians don't come with on 91 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: one hundred miles of even trying to stop the sky 92 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: scumbag liars. Right. Yeah, it's unfortunate, isn't it. It is 93 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: highly unfortunate, you could say, and we've seen this, We've 94 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 2: been doing this for a long time. You can, as 95 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 2: a politician stand up in front of a crowd and say, look, 96 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: nobody here getting Social Security that's over the age of 97 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: sixty five. We'll see any a dime of that cut 98 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: in their lifetime. But and then everything after the butt 99 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 2: gets portrayed as you, as an old person, are gonna starve, right, 100 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: And it's just there's just no getting around it, apparently, right, Right, man, 101 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: I feel for you, ma'am, what the rough situation you're 102 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 2: in doing God's work trying to deal with that. But 103 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 2: nobody us or anybody is suggesting cutting the program for 104 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: people like your daughter. Nobody, right, we would have more 105 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: money for people like your daughter if the freaking healthy, 106 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 2: twenty eight year old dude playing video games and laughing 107 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: at us. Wasn't getting all his stuff paid for? Right? 108 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 2: I don't know what you do with the reality of this. 109 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 2: I think if you were to sit down with Carl 110 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: Rove and. 111 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 3: James Marvelle, I'm trying to be by partner, maybe Donald Trump, 112 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, Charles Crouthammer, Jesus and John Wayne. That's quite 113 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: a crowd, they would say, Jackie boy, Joseph, here's the story. 114 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: That's what politics is. Grow up. 115 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: You always talk about trying to frighten or entice the 116 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: herd in one direction or another, as if you're too 117 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: good and too smart for that. 118 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: That's politics. I understand what you're saying, that the politicians 119 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 2: go out there and try to frighten you on this stuff. 120 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: What I'm concerned about is we made it clear we 121 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: weren't trying. We weren't claiming they're coming for your to 122 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: take your disabled daughter's better care. Politicians will say that 123 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: sort of stuff medicaip. Yeah, we weren't. We were saying 124 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: the opposite, and it's still landed as if we were. 125 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: That's what troubles me. 126 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's squarely in the department of things 127 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: I can't do anything about. It's uh, it's striking. I 128 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: totally get your uh being troubled by that. 129 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: Like I said, if you're a politician, you get up 130 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 2: on stage and make it clear that I'm not interested 131 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: in cutting your social security. But people walk out of 132 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 2: the room thinking they're going to take my social security. Yeah, well, 133 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: that we're done here, then I guess yes, as a 134 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: as a country, you mean yes, or as a system 135 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: of government people, well, self governance doesn't work, that's my point. 136 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: Uh yeah, Well, the great Scottish philosopher what's his face, uh, 137 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: with the you know, the republic will last only until 138 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: the populace realizes they can vote themselves money from the treasury. 139 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: And and what he didn't suspect is that, or maybe 140 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 3: he did, was that there that politicians would be able 141 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: to convince virtually all of the population that any effort 142 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 3: to rein that in was indeed an attack on them 143 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: and their well being. So, yeah, it doesn't work. 144 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: The great. 145 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 3: You know, overarching Joe Getty principle, there are actually several 146 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: of them, many of them contradict each other, is that 147 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: all systems can last only until those who had gained 148 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: the system when over those who would protect the system, 149 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, the constant battle between hackers 150 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: and cybersecurity experts. There comes a point in a like 151 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: a governmental system where accommodation of manipulating the voters and 152 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 3: then manipulating the systems behind the scenes becomes so sophisticated 153 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 3: that the immune system of a democracy is insufficient. It's 154 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: like a septic infection in the bloodstream. So monarchy now, 155 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm old. You all figured out. Good luck. 156 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: If you're old already. Nobody is gonna touch your social 157 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: security period. No, if you are actually disabled, nobody's gonna 158 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: take your money period. Nobody wants to. 159 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 3: Nobody's even suggested it, right, and yet it is the 160 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 3: easiest cell in the world. If any Republicans say we're 161 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 3: gonna rain in medicaid waste fraud abuse, they're gonna come 162 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: take the money out of the mouths of your disabled children, 163 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 3: and people believe them. 164 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: So what are you gonna do. 165 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: I'm in an accepting mood today. I have accepted it, 166 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: probably because I'm excited about my new political part party. 167 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: The f y'all it cans. You gotta have AI design 168 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: a logo, because that's a good I like the. 169 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 3: Capital F capital y apostrophe all dash, I dash cans 170 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 3: f y'all it cans. We need an animal, though maybe 171 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 3: the turkey is the donkey and the elephant, or taken clearly, 172 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 3: maybe we have the turkey, has heard in a previous clip. 173 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 2: Which Ben Franklin wanted to be our national bird. So 174 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: enough politics. 175 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 3: I've got a couple of stories about business, about you know, 176 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 3: personal wealth, that sort of thing. Number one, so you're 177 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: a crypto zillionaire, I'd start carrying a gun, hiding a 178 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: guard and keeping your fingers hidden. Secondly, pipes, who's making 179 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 3: the real money? What's the way to wealth? 180 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: Become one of the stealthy wealthy the stealthy wealthy. It's 181 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: doable and better yet it rhymes. Also, I watched the 182 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: Minecraft movie with Henry over the weekend. I want to talk, Yeah, 183 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 2: I want to talk about a couple of notable things 184 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: that I think might be the future of motion pictures. 185 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 2: Jack Black is so fat and greasy and doesn't care. 186 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: That's what's interesting about him. He's got to be one 187 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: of the biggest movie stars in the world, very very 188 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: big in terms of making money. Seems to be unbathed. 189 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: He does not care at all. I think he just 190 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 2: shows up to He doesn't care how he looks at all, 191 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: doesn't comb his hair, he doesn't find a shirt that fits, 192 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 2: he doesn't wash his face. Yeah, it's weird. Anyway, more 193 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: on that later's there. 194 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show. Jack 195 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: arms Strong and Joe Getty The Armstrong and Getty Show. 196 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: Multiple cameras rolling as a ship strikes the Brooklyn Bridge. 197 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. Why is the Mexican navy at attacking 198 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: our bridges? And why have we not fired back? Well, 199 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: they're not. 200 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: Very good at it, Great Scott. Anybody who's seen the video? Man, 201 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 3: I just saw one from a different angle. Ooh, grizzly. 202 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 3: There are a bunch of guys Mexican sailors up in 203 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: the riggings. They got knocked down when they hit the 204 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 3: Brooklyn Bridge. 205 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: Oh they so it was a really tall ship. So 206 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: as they were heading toward it, weren't there people weren't there? 207 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: Weren't the people up there saying, well, that looks like 208 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: that's about eye level. I'm getting held down. How don't 209 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: we care if I got ordered to or not? Have 210 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: we thought this through because that looks like we're not 211 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: going to fit under there. Yeah, I think they lost 212 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: power or something like that. Sketchy reports. 213 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: It's a lot like going that cargo ship bashed into 214 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 3: the bridge in Baltimore. 215 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: Speaking of boats, are you familiar with the premise of 216 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: the television show Gilligan's Island from the sixties, Because some 217 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: of you might not be. 218 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 3: There's a bunch of helpfully laid out in the theme 219 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 3: song every week if you need did a reminder. 220 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: Back in the old days, they would tell you, I. 221 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 3: Don't remember why these people were on there, what circumstances 222 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: caused them to be so stranded. 223 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 2: Just sit right back and you'll hear a tale. Back 224 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: in the old days, they would lay out the premise 225 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: of the show every week in the song for you. 226 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 2: That was very, very handy. You take the take, you good, 227 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: you take the bad, the facts of life, whatever the 228 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: show was, they would tell you. But anyway, here's the 229 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: story of a man named Brady exactly. But so you 230 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: got you got this boat that ran into an island 231 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: and they got stuck there, and the whole show is 232 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: about they're stuck on this island and dealing with each other, 233 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: and and you got cannibals, and. 234 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: They're disconcertingly ineffective efforts to leave. 235 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 2: Anyway, I thought this was really good from James Lindsay, 236 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: who were big intellectual fans of On Twitter, he said, 237 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: I think we often overestimate how much worse some things 238 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 2: are now than they were in the past, And he 239 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: linked this story about Gilligan's Island, which says at the 240 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: height of Gilligan's Island popularity, which was nineteen sixty six, 241 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: the US Coast Guard received twenty five hundred letters a 242 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: week asking why the castaways hadn't been rescued yet. 243 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 4: Oh wow, with James'sa's point being, see, we've always been 244 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: a bunch of morons, or I had a lot of morons. 245 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: I've got to take a moment to absorb that. 246 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: And I assume they mean sincere letters, not like trolling 247 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: by mail. 248 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: I don't think trolling was a thing back then. Certainly 249 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: you wouldn't take the time by mail twenty five hundred 250 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: a week a week asking the Coastguard why they hadn't 251 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: rescued Gilligan the Skipper and oh, in particular, if I'm 252 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: a Coastguard mail, a young twenty two year old in Coastguard, 253 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: I'm rescuing Marianne and Ginger right off the bat. Sure 254 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,479 Speaker 2: women and children first, Florius, that guy from that seventies 255 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: what's that that Twitter feed? Everybody likes the seventies? Something wrong? 256 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: Oh oh super seventy sports. He said, as you get older, 257 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: you look at missus Howe and realize there's a third 258 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 2: viable option on that alle. 259 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: She was an attractive woman. Yeah, absolutely, ages, yeah, exactly. 260 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: Well, so many. 261 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: Questions, how was the skipper still a peese after being 262 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: stranded at an island for years? 263 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: Going on? There metabolism problem, but so he did some 264 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: wagovi the ultimate point being, and I think James Linzy 265 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: makes a good point. We do overestimate the the percentage 266 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: of people that are dumb or don't pay attention or whatever. 267 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: It's not like everybody in the sixties or the eighteen 268 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: fifties or whatever. We're learning Latin and studying the constitution, 269 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: like Thomas Jefferson. Yeah right right, yeah, yeah, so true, 270 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: Deer Coast Guard, why haven't you rescued? 271 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: Gilligan signed for people are desperate and desperately incompetent they 272 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: can't even build a raft. 273 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: What is my tax money going? So you thought every 274 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: TV show you were watching was a reality show in 275 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 2: the sixties. 276 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 3: And they didn't like ask why don't the camera people 277 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 3: rescue them? 278 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: That didn't even occur to them. No, boy, that is 279 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: really dumb. Or the orchestra playing the music when you 280 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: come back from commercials. They could have helped. 281 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: Good Jack, Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show, 282 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show. 283 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 3: Joanna Stern writes about tech for The Wall Street Journal. 284 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 3: She's very clever, as you're about to hear, and sounds 285 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 3: down to earth and as I enjoy your writing. 286 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 2: The opening a bit of this article tells it all. 287 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: I've been wearing a wire everywhere since February. I've got 288 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: all the transcripts important meetings, arguments with my kids, chats 289 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 3: with disgruntled employees, late night bathroom routines. There's plenty more 290 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: that I can't share if I want you to keep 291 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 3: liking me. She has been willingly wearing a fifty dollars 292 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 3: be Pioneer bracelet that records everything she says and uses 293 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 3: AI to summarize her life and send her helpful reminders. 294 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 3: Getting back to the article, I also tested two similar gadgets, 295 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 3: the one hundred and ninety nine dollars Limitless Pendant and 296 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 3: the one hundred and fifty nine. 297 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: Dollars plowd Note pin. 298 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 3: These assistants can recall every dumb, private, and cringe worthy 299 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 3: thing that came out of my mouth. Is this the 300 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 3: dawn of the AI surveillance state? Absolutely? Is it also 301 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 3: the dream of hyper personal, all knowing AI assistance coming 302 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 3: to life? 303 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: Also? Yes? Absolutely? Yeah, it's funny. The first thing I 304 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: thought of was, and usually I'm I'm my first go 305 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: to is surveillance state. But my first thought was, Wow, 306 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: if I had AI reminding me, hey, remember you're going 307 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: to work on that to get in your real ID 308 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: the deadline's coming up, I would love that. Yeah. 309 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 3: And I was just gonna say, if y'all are sitting 310 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 3: there thinking what the hell good would this do me? 311 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 3: She gets to that and it's pretty cool. Let me 312 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 3: read more of her piece. Within hours of wearing the 313 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 3: bee again, one of the three devices she tried, I 314 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 3: was blown away how quickly it turned ramblings and random 315 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 3: chatter into useful, actionable information yet allow me to quote 316 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: myself from February twenty fourth at five point fifteen pm. Wow. Quote, 317 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: this bracelet is really effing creepy. So here's how they work. 318 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: And she mentions that all the denials we've heard through 319 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 3: the years that social media apps are secretly listening to 320 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: us too hard, too intense, too much data. Buhah, yeah, please, 321 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: But all those devices do that. They detect dialogue, especially 322 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 3: your voice, and they stream the audio to your phone 323 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 3: via Bluetooth, then to companies where it's transcribed. AI models 324 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: take the transcription and generate summaries, which appear in the 325 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 3: apps within minutes. Now, one of the devices that does 326 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 3: not save the audio. 327 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 2: All it has is the transcriptions. 328 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 3: The other one, limitless keeps the audio, letting you play 329 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 3: back full recordings of everything you've said. 330 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 2: Boy, oh boy, oh boy. But it's a little weird 331 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: for us because I have full recordings of what I 332 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: say four hours a day, five days a week the 333 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: past thirty years. But so it's not as foreign to me. 334 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: But but that'd be something. 335 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: But you and I also have a heightened awareness of 336 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: the difference between when the mics are on and when 337 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: they're not. True and more than one good career has 338 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 3: been ended because a mic was on somebody thought it 339 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 3: was not. I've had a few disagree that bullet a 340 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 3: couple of times ourselves. 341 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: I've had a few disagreements in my life, like minor 342 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: to major. Where would have been kind of handy to 343 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: be able to go back and say, I'm pretty sure 344 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: you didn't mention that to me. They said, yeah, I did. 345 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 3: It's like to screen the commercials. Who is it an 346 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 3: insurance commercial? Guy, I can't remember. Let's go to the 347 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 3: tape and they go under the hood, right like NFL referees. 348 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Katie, I'm just thinking this sounds like a 349 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: wife's dream. The amount of time, like I told you 350 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: we have dinner tonight at five, No you didn't. All 351 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: let's go to the tape. Let's go to the tape, sir. 352 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 2: That's fantastic. 353 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: Then she gets into some of the technical ups and downs, 354 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: and Katie would love to have you comment on this 355 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 3: to your heart's content. But and she gets into how 356 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: AI is nothing without data. It needs data. So when 357 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 3: you feed it everything you've said for days, weeks, and months, 358 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 3: it gets infinitely more useful. Also, yes, it becomes a 359 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 3: lot more like a black Mirror episode. But we'll get 360 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: into that. She writes with massive transcripts of your life. 361 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 3: The AI in these apps? Can they recap your conversations? 362 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 3: Often reading like a bad biography? This is great. The 363 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 3: b device summary from April ninths Joanna's day was a 364 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: blend of familiar responsibilities and intense professional engagements. She ended 365 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: the day listening to music by sting riveting stuff. Can't 366 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 3: wait for the movie adaptation. 367 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: Wow, there'd be some days. Excuse me, there'd be some days. 368 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: Read me disappointed in the summary. You worked, you came home, 369 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: you scrolled through Twitter, you ate crap and went to bed. 370 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 2: Oh my your own business? 371 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: AI. 372 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 2: Who Jack has eating his twenty seventh double quarter pounder 373 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: in this week? Yeah? Yeah, thanks? 374 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: Wow track, Yeah it's Kenton, I am. The transcriptions themselves 375 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: aren't all that accurate, but the summaries usually are well, 376 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: except for March twenty fourth conversation with Johnny Cochrane about 377 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 3: trial evidence. 378 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 2: Yep, just a. 379 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 3: Casual chat with a deceased celebrity lawyer, and she says, 380 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 3: in parentheses, I was watching the new OJ documentary. 381 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 2: That's funny. 382 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: But Jack, to your prescient point earlier, some of the 383 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: ways that they're helpful is summarizing things and reminders. Turns 384 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 3: out I promise to do a lot of things without 385 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: putting them on a to do list. B listens for 386 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 3: action items and adds them to suggested lists because they 387 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 3: understand the verbiage in an action item. It's repeatedly reminded 388 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 3: me of important tasks like calling the plumber or following 389 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 3: up on work stuff. But it also hilariously adds things 390 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 3: I'd never put on a list, like quote, check in 391 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: on your six son, or schedule a follow up with 392 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 3: your hairstylist to discuss your haircut. 393 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: Let's see it analyzes, God, how great would that be? 394 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 2: I'll bet this happens soon. And like a lot of 395 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 2: things in life, we can't remember what it was like 396 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: before it where you know, in ten years will be 397 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: remember when you like now? Where I often think, you know, 398 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 2: I go somewhere and I think, how did I used 399 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 2: to get to places? I don't even remember how I 400 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 2: used to get to places? Did I pull on a map? 401 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: Or how did I even do it? Ask friendly strangers, right, well, yeah, 402 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: Sometimes you'd pull into a gas station and say, you know, 403 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: I'm looking for the sporting goods store, which I know 404 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: is around here somewhere, but I could see here in 405 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: a couple of years. Would be like, do you remember 406 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 2: when you used to have to remember things or write 407 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: them down on a post it note instead of having 408 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: AI tell me, remember your son's got the volleyball game, 409 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 2: so you got to pick them up from school early. 410 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 2: That sort of. 411 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I can't be the only person assembled friends 412 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: who is not great at making to do lists. And 413 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: how many times have I said, let me Jeff, Yeah, no, 414 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: I won't bother, I'll remember it. I'll remember to make 415 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 3: to do lists. How many times have I said when 416 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 3: I think of it, I don't have time, and when 417 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 3: I have time, I don't think of it. Correct Anyway, 418 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: here's another thing it does both be and limitless. Have chatbots, 419 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 3: you see, you can ask about your recorded life. I 420 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: asked B for a detailed breakdown of my cursing habits 421 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 3: daily average two point four curses. Please, you're not even trying, sweetheart, 422 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 3: But it. 423 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 2: Can be what are you a nun? Yeah? Two point 424 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 2: four a day? Yeah, well it's impressive. Well she has kids, 425 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 2: good for you? Well, well, yeah, you're never in the 426 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: car alone and on my blanking way. 427 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 3: But then she says it can be genuinely helpful, like quote, 428 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 3: look through my chats with Ethan from B and tell 429 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: me what AI model it uses. So reminders of factual 430 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 3: things you heard in a conversation that are a little fuzzy. 431 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: Now, God, I'm starting to think I might so all 432 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 2: of this surveillance stuff we've all opted in, We've all 433 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: decided we're going to carry around a tracking device with 434 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: us all the time, and we all know that we 435 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: just feel like the advantages outweigh the possible disadvantages. I 436 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 2: think this might end up being true for recording everything. 437 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 2: I say that the advantages will outweigh the you know 438 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: how it could be misused? God, if you could quickly 439 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 2: you wouldn't even have to listen to the conversation. If 440 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 2: a I could go back through the transcript and it 441 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 2: would say, yeah, your wife did tell you that you 442 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: had dinner to night at five? Oh cramp eh um, 443 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: or no they didn't. It might be handy. Yeah, I 444 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: tell you. I would describe myself. 445 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: And again I have a feeling I'm not unique in 446 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 3: this is busy, well meaning and absent minded. And if 447 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 3: my what sits could say to me, hey, remember you 448 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 3: agreed to play golf with Gordy tomorrow afternoon. I'd be like, oh, shoot, right, 449 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 3: because you know that's one of my great weaknesses. 450 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 2: So here's how And you're built that way or you're not. 451 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 2: It's so obvious because I got two kids that are 452 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 2: completely different. I got one kid that's very close to 453 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 2: me on terms of that stuff, kind of like you 454 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: just describe my other kid. It's just all locked in 455 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: his brain all the time. He knows where everything is, 456 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: he knows what's on the schedule today, he knows. He 457 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: just it's all there all the time. Yeah, but I can't. 458 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: I can't try harder and that way. Yeah. 459 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 3: One of the reasons my wife and I have escaped 460 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 3: financial ruin and other bad fates is she's meticulous, and 461 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 3: so you know when she like pays a bill late, 462 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 3: it's alert the media. Now it's just what anyway, how 463 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: they're creepy. February twenty third, five point fifteen, In a 464 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 3: conversation with my mom, This bracelet has nothing to do 465 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 3: with fitness. 466 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 2: It records everything that's being said. 467 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: As her mom was asking her, Nobody I'd talked to 468 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 3: over the past few months would have known I was 469 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 3: recording them if I hadn't told them. It's a little 470 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 3: fun like I'm a low budget Ethan Hunt. 471 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't get that references by some sort. 472 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: Mostly though, I just felt like a creep and depending 473 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: on the state, I might have been breaking the law. 474 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the other side of this, all that conversation stuff. 475 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: Both ends of it should be uh as into it 476 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: as maybe I would be. Otherwise, you're recording all your 477 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: friends conversations. That's that's that's pretty dicey. And then. 478 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 3: Some of these are just hilarious because they have transcripts 479 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 3: and summaries right of your various conversations. This one's labeled 480 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 3: interaction with pet dog Browser. I think it's Bowser, but 481 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: maybe it is Browser. That's a very writer a thing 482 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 3: to name your dog. Here's the transcript. Someone scolded browser 483 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 3: for chewing something Speaker one, Browser, What are you doing? 484 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 3: Speaker one again? Can you not chew your whatever? Speaker 485 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 3: one again? 486 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 2: Browser? Some good transcripts. Yeah, oh, that is some useful stuff. 487 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: Most of my recordings were in New Jersey and New York, 488 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 3: which are one party consent states, and I'd agreed, but 489 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: if I were in one of about a dozen states 490 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 3: that require two party consent. I need permission from everyone 491 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: in earshot or end up with a possible civil liability case. 492 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how that's gonna work, and states where you 493 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: got to have two party consent. 494 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: And then she quotes a lawyer, Jack, who surprisingly says 495 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: you better not, which is what lawyers are paid to say. 496 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: More specifically, he says I would make sure everyone has 497 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 3: consented verbally, and while the risk might be low, he adds, 498 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 3: we would never recommend people take that risk. 499 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 2: Well, geez, I mean if somebody walks up to me 500 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: and says, I wear a device that records all of 501 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: our conversations, just want to make sure that's okay with you, 502 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: I'd be an automatic no f f all the way 503 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 2: off exactly how far away can you get in the 504 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 2: next ten seconds? Get there? How does this benefit me 505 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: in any way? There's only downside. 506 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 3: So any thoughts, usefulness, hazards, etcetera. Drop us a note 507 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,479 Speaker 3: mail bag at Armstrong and getty dot com. We'll hit 508 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: them around the same time tomorrow. 509 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: During the show, he kind of reminded me of stuff though, 510 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: remembers what I said. That'd be cool. 511 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, if they could refine it to promises and actions. 512 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 3: And of course, you know, in the scenario we've we've 513 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: talked about a couple of times, it would have to 514 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 3: be recording my wife saying, don't don't forget we're having 515 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 3: dinner with the Joneses next Tuesday. 516 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: But it does it also record remember the other night 517 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: when you said you'd blank my blank. Oh no, you 518 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: don't know. 519 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 3: Of course, it'd be good to have a transcript. Funny 520 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 3: right here in black and white. 521 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 2: I see it's here. Not trying to be argumentative here, 522 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: but read the transfer eight seventeen on April the third. 523 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just a fact. 524 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: Strong The Armstrong and Getty. 525 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 5: Show a shadowy network called seven sixty four whose goal 526 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,239 Speaker 5: is to spark violence and chaos around the world, in 527 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 5: part by luring in unsuspecting teenagers. Seven sixty four targets 528 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 5: kids on social media and gaming platforms, extorting them into 529 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 5: sending violent and sexual content. The FBI is warning parents 530 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 5: to pay attention to who their kids are talking to 531 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 5: on social media and gaming platforms. 532 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 2: The FBI's investigating more. 533 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 5: Than two hundred and fifty suspects tied to seven sixty four, 534 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 5: with every. 535 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: Field office involved. Well, that's just dandy. I am a 536 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: parent of teenagers who'd never even heard of that in 537 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 2: my life until two seconds ago. So that's just great. 538 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 2: Let's just put that on the long list of things 539 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 2: you can be concerned about if your kid's got a phone. 540 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 3: Not so fast, there's more to be concerned about if 541 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 3: your kid has a phone. I was just reading that 542 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 3: the hacker ring that you may remember put Vegas out 543 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 3: of commission? 544 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 2: What was that six months ago? 545 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 3: A year ago? I don't know, time flies when year old, 546 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 3: but they brought down all those casinos for a time. 547 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 3: That is a very loosely assembled group of bored, malcontent, 548 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 3: mischievous youngsters who call themselves the con something like that, 549 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: and this specific subgroup of the subgroup calls themselves scattered Spider, 550 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 3: I guess, and they just they hack into various corporations 551 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 3: and companies and government institutions and stuff like that for 552 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 3: fun and mischief, and sometimes they steal, but sometimes they. 553 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: Just screw with it. That whole keep track of who 554 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: your kids talk to on social media and everything like 555 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 2: that sounded a lot easier before, well before my kids 556 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 2: got old enough to be involved in that world, and 557 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: as far as I can tell, I'm more strict than 558 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: a lot of my son's friends parents are, and it's 559 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: still just I mean, there's just so many opportunities for 560 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 2: them to be involved with bad people. I mean, unless 561 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be over his shoulder all the time, right. Yeah. 562 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: I was a very big fan as a parent, partly 563 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 3: for that reason, and I completely support the idea of 564 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 3: trying not to trying to eliminate opportunities to do bad 565 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: things one hundred percent. But I realized at one point 566 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 3: what you're talking about, and so I just really emphasized 567 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 3: the underlying principles right behind doing some things and not 568 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 3: doing some things, and how extremely important they were to 569 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 3: me as their dad and their moms certainly, but how 570 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 3: important and fundamentally they are to being a good person 571 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 3: and a bad person. And then when they're loose on 572 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 3: the town and they're presented with temptation, you hope and 573 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: pray they make the right choice, and or if they 574 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: make the wrong choice, it's not a disaster, right, which. 575 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: Has a lot to do with their friend group and 576 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 2: everything else, which has always been true, And the opportunity 577 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: to get in trouble is exponentially greater now than it 578 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: was twenty years ago. I mean, it's just a completely 579 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 2: different world. You couldn't order heroin and in a machine 580 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 2: gun from any tiny town in America when I was 581 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 2: in high school, or come across a you know, an 582 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: international pedophile sex ring. It just wasn't gonna happen. Yeah, 583 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 2: I know, I know. 584 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 3: I was going to bring up a kind of vague 585 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: philosophical theme about the modern world. Don't really have time 586 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 3: to get into it now, but. 587 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 2: Has to do. 588 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 3: And I can't get into specifics in my little world. Really, 589 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:19,319 Speaker 3: You'll have to forgive me for that for now. But 590 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:24,959 Speaker 3: a friend of mine characterized kind of a mood as 591 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 3: the slime from the Ghostbusters movies, the original Ghostbuster, the 592 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: early eighties, classic early eighties, like eighties three. 593 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 2: When was that out? 594 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 3: Anyway, You may recall that when all the ghosts were 595 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 3: running wild in New York City, one of the things 596 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 3: they did was like spread this green slime around. The 597 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 3: effect it had was not just you know, green slime 598 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: is effect enough, yck, but but it caused New Yorkers 599 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 3: to be angry and disagreeable and turn on each other. 600 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 2: And we're just gussing a very local context. And also. 601 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 3: The angst and unhappiness of youth, and the fact that 602 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: incumbents all over the developed world are getting tossed out 603 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 3: of office, and the parties that have been fairly stable 604 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 3: and in power, you know, they switch places now and again, 605 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 3: but they're just getting tossed aside. There is a near 606 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 3: global feeling of angst and unhappiness that I don't. 607 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 2: Ever recall before. True What do we do with this information? 608 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: To do about it? We get used to it, do 609 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: we settle into some or it just keeps getting worse 610 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 2: by heroin and machine guns on the internet, like you're 611 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 2: discussing earlier 612 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getty Show, Orgio podcasts, and our hot links,