1 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 4 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Following the lives and now your hosts 5 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's 6 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: It's a Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Geico. 7 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: Here from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star 8 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: in Frisco. Still reeling over the thirty seven seventeen Cowboys 9 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: win against the Philadelphia Eagles on Sunday afternoon and the 10 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: fact that the Cowboys are indeed still alive in the 11 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: NFC's hunt going into the final week of the regular season. 12 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna break it down and we're gonna talk about 13 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: some of the scenarios, some of the questions, and we're 14 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: gonna answer your questions here on this edition of Talking 15 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys as Fans on the fifty comes up at nine fifty, 16 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: But first let me introduce the group, as always Isaiah 17 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: Stanback or Resident Super Bowl Champion. We've got Cowboys Insider 18 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: and the guy who just got off the fan, mister 19 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. You might have heard him on Sean and 20 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: r J, or at least this week at Sean and 21 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: Fish on the fan this week. And then you've got 22 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: our professional football insider and an analyst, mister Heckma Harrison, 23 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: joining us as always, I'm Kyle, you Olma's driving the 24 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: bus and boys, I've got some bad news to start 25 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: the show today, some really bad news. Oh no, yes, 26 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: this is unfortunate for Cowboys fans because yesterday we had 27 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: the breaking news that Dwayne Haskins was not going to 28 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: be the starter for Washington, which was bad news in 29 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: its own right, but then he was released and now 30 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: out of the division as the guy who could potentially 31 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: help you get to a playoff spot, not his own team, 32 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: but our team, the Dallas Cowboys, and that was unfortunate 33 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: because we need Washington to lose on Sunday, and Dwayne 34 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: Haskins is now out in Washington. He was waived yesterday 35 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: by the football team and they are going with Taylor 36 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: Heineke as the starter, the product out of Old Dominion, 37 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: or at least a starter if Alex Smith is not ready. Rob, 38 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: So still a lot of question marks there, and then 39 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: you know it's gonna be unfortunate not seeing Dwayne Haskins 40 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 1: out there helping your case. Yeah, I mean that was 41 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: a quick turnaround, right. He gets the start and has 42 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: an opportunity to put him in the playoffs, and the 43 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: next day, I guess Ron Rivera makes that decision to 44 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: move on. You know, I wouldn't discount him having a 45 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: comeback and being successful in this league. He's a young 46 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: player and give him time to things out. But yeah, 47 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean, for this particular matchup, you don't want to 48 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: see Alex Smith playing on Sunday night because I just 49 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: said it on the fan. We'll see what happens. I 50 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: think Philly's got enough talent to win that game, but 51 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: when they're out of the playoffs, they're not playing for anything. 52 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: And Washington's front is still a problem even with Terry 53 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: McLain potentially not playing in that game. I think Washington 54 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: win an ugly game, but hey, you still got to 55 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 1: play the game and find out and the Cowboys have 56 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: to win their game on Sunday and not worry about that. 57 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: Just say, for Boss in the middlewlands on Sunday. Now, 58 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: there was some conspiracy theory kind of bubbling up yesterday 59 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: with Rex Ryan on ESPN's Monday Night Countdown, and he 60 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: was talking about how there's no way that Philadelphia allows 61 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: the Cowboys to win this division, that they were going 62 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: to throw the game against Washington, and that there was 63 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: going to be this tanking going on with Philadelphia and 64 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: the football team coming up on Sunday Night football, And Isaiah, 65 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: I just want you to I know you're not a 66 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: team to anchor. You don't believe in team tank. You 67 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: don't think it's a thing. But is there such thing 68 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: as maybe the jealousy? Is there such thing as maybe 69 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: the pettiness from a Philadelphia team that you just beat 70 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: by twenty to go into this game and say, you know, 71 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: we'd rather Washington win this thing? You No, not even possible. 72 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: I think. I think anytime you're playing in one of 73 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: your divisional divisional woes, you want to make sure that 74 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: you send them home packing. And whenever you have opportunity 75 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: to send them home packing without opportunity at the playoffs, 76 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: you definitely hop all over that opportunity. So I look 77 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: forward to seeing Feeling have a bounce back game and 78 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: smack these dudes upside of their head. I also saw 79 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: that no I saw that also, and when Rex when 80 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: he said that, I thought that was just another one 81 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: of those things that he says on ESPN, and he's 82 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: been known to say some really outlandis things, So that 83 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: was just one more thing to pile in that bucket 84 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: of manure things that he says. But I don't believe that. 85 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: I believe that Philly is gonna come out fighting for 86 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: their pride to finish the season on the high note. 87 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: They have a rookie quarterback that they've gotten behind, that 88 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: they feel good about this season, that they to end 89 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 1: this season. But going back to the way that you 90 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: framed that question about Haskins, good lord, Kyle, have mercy, dude, man, 91 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: it's uh, how do you go from how do you 92 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: go from like you said, Rob starting to being released 93 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: four hours twenty four hours and he's had it struggles 94 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: and it's all been documented. And you know, Kyle, you 95 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: know how I am. Man. When we talk to coaches 96 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: and they have a guy that's a you know, a 97 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: little disgruntled or maybe on the fringe of getting kicked 98 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: off of the team, I'm always asking, is there anything 99 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: to save in a kid? You know, because I was 100 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: a two school kid that this look had my own problems. 101 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: But you know, when it gets to this level when 102 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: guys have millions of dollars and they have immaturity maturity issues, 103 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: you know, I feel for Dwayne Haskins. He wasn't someone 104 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: that Rum Rivera and his staff wanted anyway, wouldn't have 105 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 1: drafted if he was the coach of the Washington football 106 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: team during that time. So you know, I believe in 107 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: the redemptive powers man, and I hope that this young 108 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: man does have an opportunity to redeem his career. And 109 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: ye too, he's twenty three years old. You know, a 110 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: lot of time to sort it out. One more thing 111 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: about the Eagles, Like, while I said, look, they're out 112 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: of the playoffs, they have to evaluate Jalen Hurts. They 113 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: got to figure out who the quarterback is going in 114 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: the next season, and it very well. They may already 115 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: feel like it's Jalen Hurts, but that they've got to 116 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: put him in situations to be successful to make their 117 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: evaluation in the off season. So that I think this game, 118 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: every game he plays, is big for them. Yeah, And 119 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: going back kind of back and forth between these two 120 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: first off with Rex Ryan saying that I'm one a 121 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: night countdown yesterday. There's nothing wrong with being a part 122 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: of ESPN. I would love to be at that table 123 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: he was sitting at one day. However, that might be 124 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: the reason why he's sitting at the table talking on 125 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: a broadcast rather than coaching in the NFL anymore. Is 126 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: by its saying things like that if, oh, there's no 127 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: way that Philadelphia is going to go out and win 128 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: this game, but there's conspiracy theories everywhere. Yeah, maybe that's 129 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: the reason why he's talking on TV and he's not 130 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: talking on a headset on the sideline. But also, whenever 131 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: it comes to Haskins, he needs to go to a 132 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: better situation that was never gonna work for him and 133 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: the kind of player that he is. You talk about 134 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: the immaturity that's certainly there, but with Dwayne Haskins, he 135 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: needs to go to a hard ass head coach. He 136 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: needs to go somewhere where it's a straightforward line of thinking, 137 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: maybe a veteran quarterback sitting in front of him. I 138 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: think Pittsburgh would be the ultimate opportunity for him. I 139 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: think that would be the best place for him to 140 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: go and grow underneath Ben Roethlisberger. Who had his own 141 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: struggles of immaturity early in his career turn that around 142 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: to put together put together a Hall of fame resume. 143 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Tomlin, hard ass head coach. There's plenty 144 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: of places where he could go, and so I think 145 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins has a chance to kind of reset press 146 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: that reset button and hopefully it does end up in 147 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: a fruitful career. But let's talk about these Cowboys a 148 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: little bit, because no matter what happens with Washington, you 149 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: have to win on Sunday against New York. And that's 150 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: not necessarily a foregone conclusion. We've seen this Cowboys team 151 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 1: already this season. New York also gunning for a playoff spot. 152 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: But this Cowboys defense is where I want to start today, 153 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: and I want to talk about kind of the improvement 154 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: we've seen on that side of the football. And Isaiah, 155 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you with the turnovers ten over 156 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: the last three games and the way that this defense 157 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: has kind of turned things around and played over the 158 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks against maybe lesser competition but still 159 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: have seen some improvement. Has Mike Nolan does done enough 160 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: at this point to save his job going into the 161 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: off season or is there still a little bit more 162 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: you want to see from Nolan's defense. I think he 163 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: put it this way. I think he has if these 164 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 1: guys can remain consistent through the rest of the season, 165 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: if they could finish off this last game showing any 166 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: kind of retention at all that they understand his defense, 167 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: any kind of retention that these guys continue wanted to 168 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: play hard and they're playing collective football, They're they're playing 169 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: with energy, um, you know, you know, carrying out their assignments. 170 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: I think that he has done a good job turning 171 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: it around. I think he's show he's shown a glimmer 172 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: of hope. I think that along with you know, the 173 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: fact that people are gonna say, of course he didn't 174 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: have a full offseason or we understand that for sure, 175 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: everybody's been in that situation. But I think I guess 176 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: it to sum it all up, I think so no 177 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: I like that I was in and I feel like 178 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: there's this's you know, percentage of a chance that he has, right. Um. 179 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: I think that once he these last couple of games, 180 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just been like, for my next trick, 181 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to change the turnover differential Waila, and that 182 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: is what's happened, and it's made games so much easier 183 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: for us. And like I said yesterday, Man, just football 184 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: enjoyable to watch when you see us getting those turnovers. 185 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: But at the same time, Man, we got to talk 186 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: about the coaching job in general for all of these guys, 187 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: because getting this team on track, whether it's been smashing 188 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: watermelons or whatever, they have to do to get these 189 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: guys back to playing passionately and flying around. That's the 190 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,559 Speaker 1: one thing that I see that is the difference from 191 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: this team five games ago. They're playing with passionate flying around. 192 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: They're not the same dejected team that you saw on 193 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: the sideline in the Baltimore game. And I think it's 194 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: been the turnovers that's made the difference. It's getting home Isaiah, 195 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: it's you know, getting the running game established, just those 196 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: little sparks in chunk plays making everything easy for us. 197 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: So look, I know the question is whether Mike Nolan 198 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: will come back next year. I really hope he does, 199 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: and I hope he gets an opportunity to implement his system. 200 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: I know you're gonna be talking about the draft show today. 201 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: We need a big upfront all of the you know, Beefy, 202 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: best player available, talk whatever. We need a big guy 203 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: up front right now. We're playing with two down linemen 204 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: and four linebackers. We need some bigger guys up there 205 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: to make this scheme work for this team. Yeah. I've 206 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: been saying that too. That's my number one priority. Unless 207 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, they may think Tristan Hill comes back and 208 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: can Aaron Donald, but I still think you need some 209 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: help upfront and a lot of spots. I think defensively, 210 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: they got to look at I'm with you, guys. I 211 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: think I think that's certainly possible. He's back because you know, 212 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy knows him as well as anybody in the NFL. 213 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: He's worked with him, and Mike reference after the game 214 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: on a couple different times time together, you know, cohesiveness, 215 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: all those things that I think with time, and even 216 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: Jerry said it on the fan this morning that you know, 217 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: he spoke about the secondary and how with time the 218 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: coaches have gained a better understanding of what guys do well. 219 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: Even if there's guys back there that maybe aren't as 220 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: instinctive of ballhawks, putting them in the right spots to 221 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: go make those plays and get those takeaways. I think 222 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: Diggs has definitely shown he can do that. But you know, 223 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: some of that is they're attributing that to coaching as 224 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: the season's gone along, So you are seeing a progression 225 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: even though they are still leaking yards and they're not 226 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: playing a lead offenses right now. You are seeing improvement 227 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: and that's important. And I also don't know if they're 228 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: necessarily sold on the fact of having to replace both 229 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: coordinators in an off season, especially after the one you 230 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: just had in twenty twenty. And that's certainly a possibility 231 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: as well with Kellen Moore and that that Boise State job. 232 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that coming up in the third segment. 233 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: But continuing with this defense here, and I mean, this 234 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: is a guy who should be, at least at the moment, 235 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: should be a future head coach in the or not 236 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: head coach, but maybe a coach in the NFL. And 237 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: that's Sean Lee. And he's not the same physically. We 238 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: knew that. We knew that going into twenty twenty. We 239 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: knew that whenever the injuries were a problem earlier in 240 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: the year, but it was there was a calming presence 241 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: on that defense when Sean Lee was out there, there 242 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: were sound coverages. The reading of the especially the read 243 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: option against the team with Miles Sanders and Jalen Hurts 244 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: in the backfield, it was more succinct and it was 245 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: more sharp whenever Sean Lee was on the field. And 246 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: did you see that as well, Hackma come this past Sunday, 247 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: whenever Sean Lee was on the field. Maybe he physically 248 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: can't get it done, but the defense has confidence in 249 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: him to know where he's supposed to be and where 250 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: they are supposed to go. You know, all season we've 251 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: been talking about leaders leadership on this team, and fifty 252 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: it has been a leader on this team for a 253 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: very long time. And you know we talk calming force 254 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: on the defense, what have you, whatever it is. I 255 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 1: think that, you know, I really believe that the preparation 256 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: for this game, these guys are locked in, and I 257 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: think that's what you see happening on Sundays now. Shaun 258 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: Lee played his butt off and I think the leadership 259 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: that you know showed him. We talked about it yesterday 260 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: of him getting the guys together just to calm everybody 261 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: down and realize that, hey, we can actually win this 262 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: game even though we're down fourteen and three. That's what 263 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: we've needed, right, We've needed that that kind of leadership 264 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: and not guys that throw their helmets and hang their heads. So, 265 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: you know, whatever calming force he's had after you know, 266 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: Layton Vanderest has gone out. Hopefully Layton is watching this 267 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: and he can dial into that as well. But if 268 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: he's a coordinator in this league or you know what 269 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: assisted uh in this league, then it's going to be 270 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: because of his skill set and what he is understanding 271 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 1: of football. And you know, Shan Lee has that Isaiah, 272 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think we talked about it in the 273 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: pregame show, right Kyle, And in terms of what he 274 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: brings to this team, obviously, when he's on the field, 275 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: you lose the You lose that, you lose the athleticism 276 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: that he brings. He doesn't he no longer has that, 277 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: but he does have the psyche um, he does have 278 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: the confidence, he does have the understanding of the defense, 279 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: and he can get you the right positions. I think 280 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: when Sean Lee's out there is kind of like the 281 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: big brother that you don't want to disappoint. So I 282 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: guess what you do everything right right, You're in your 283 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: right gaps. You play the way what you were supposed 284 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: to play. You don't go outside of your responsibilities. And 285 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: I think because of him, because he has that respect 286 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: um and within within this organization, within this team, I 287 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: think that guys did what they were supposed to do 288 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: and then in turn you saw the results of it. 289 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: You know, Joe Thomas actually played more snaps in the game. 290 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: I think he had He had forty two snaps, Sean 291 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: had had thirty, and Jalen Smith played the entire game 292 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: seventy three snaps. But but yeah, you know, Joe Thomas 293 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: did a nice job too. But like Hekma said talking 294 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: about maybe coaching being in Shawn's future down the line, 295 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: there's a reason why reporters ask him at the end 296 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: of every year do you think about being a coach? 297 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: Because he's got that He's got that mindset and his 298 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: attention to detail is so strong, His study habits are 299 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: so strong throughout his career. You know, Anthony Hitchins told 300 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: us a story a couple of years when he was 301 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: still here a couple of years ago, told us before 302 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: he left for Kansas City that there was a play 303 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: when he was a rookie. I think with Sean or 304 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: the year after where Sean basically told him to play 305 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: before the snap Pigeons got a pick and he told himself, 306 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: I'm never not listening to Sean Lee again. And it's 307 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: because John is capable of doing that, recognizing things and 308 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: even yeah, even if his skills aren't what they were, 309 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: he can That's been the problem for the Cowboy defensively, 310 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: just kind of being in the right spot. I think 311 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: he can help in that regard. It is a fans 312 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: on the fifty Tuesday, but this is not a question. 313 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: It was a statement from KAB Johnson in our chat 314 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: and it just made me chuckle for a second. It 315 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: says Shan Lee is still the best linebacker on this team. 316 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's necessarily far off. I mean, 317 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: just based off of the mentals, of course he's there. 318 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: But I think with the play, I mean, with the 319 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: way that the defense plays, whenever he's on the field, 320 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: you can see a difference. You can see a calmness. 321 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: So hey, I don't necessarily wholeheartedly disagree with that. I 322 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: think there's actually a little bit of merit to what 323 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: KB Johnson just said in our chat. I think he's 324 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: good in his role. Like Asaiah spoke to it, I 325 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: mean he playing thirty snaps. I think you don't want 326 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: him trying to play seventy three snaps right now where 327 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: he's out in his career, coming off that injury. He's 328 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: had a bunch of injuries. But playing him in a rotation, yes, definitely, 329 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: he can be that calming influence. And I think Joe 330 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: Thomas too has earned an opportunity to step in when 331 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: somebody's out as well. They've they've got some depth, veteran 332 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: depth that has helped them in this last game. And 333 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit more about these linebackers coming 334 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: up throughout the week because they're gonna have another tough 335 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: task against against the New York Giants coming up on 336 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: Sunday to try and win a division or at least 337 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: put you in a spot to win a division. But 338 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: when we come back here on Talking Cowboys presented by Geico, 339 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna go into fans on the fifty. What do 340 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: we do when Zach Martin returns. 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Like always, 388 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: he's alongside Rob Phillips, Heck Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman's glad 389 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: you're with us here over the last forty or I 390 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: guess over these forty five minutes. It's not. We're not 391 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: done yet by any means, but we've also got some 392 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: time now to answer some fan questions and go into 393 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: fans on the fifty Fans on the fifty gosh, I 394 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: love it when Chris Bean pushes those buttons in the back. Now, 395 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: we've got some good questions coming in from fans this week, 396 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: and the first ones comes from a good buddy of ours, 397 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: Mike Crumb, who's been very supportive of the show over 398 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. And Mike Crumb ask which 399 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: side of the football played better in the win on Sunday. 400 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: The offensive side of the football with their five hundred 401 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: plus yards and of course getting all the receivers you 402 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: had two one hundred yard receivers, you had five touchdowns 403 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: from receivers alone, and then you had Ezekiel Elliott with 404 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: a hundred yard rushing game for the second time in 405 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. But the defense played well too, with the 406 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: three takeaways, and they had plenty of the sacks from 407 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: Randy Greg Grief's fumbles interceptions. I mean, both sides played well, 408 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: But we're gonna start with heckm on this one. Which 409 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: side played better this past Sunday. You know, I think 410 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: the popular answer would be the offense, just based off 411 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: of the numbers that you just said, you know, with 412 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: Zeke running for the yards and obviously the receiving yards 413 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: as well. But I'm gonna go with the defense because 414 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: I think the defense set the tone. Those three takeaways, 415 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: those set getting those turnovers. I think it made life 416 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: so much easier for our offense to get in the flow, 417 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 1: getting those short field advantages. All of that just made 418 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: the offense run a lot better. So I'm gonna go 419 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: with the defense, man Rob, I'm going to agree with 420 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: Heck Maher, and I am going to say the defense 421 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: because hello, you can look at all the offensive yards 422 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: and there was big time. But man, you saw that 423 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: really take a step forward in terms of resiliency being 424 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: down fourteen nothing and not allowing that to snowball like 425 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: we've seen all season long. And Mike Nolan spoke to 426 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: that on call yesterday that you know, he had some 427 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: concern like kind of oh, here we go again. And 428 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: they went to the sideline, they explained what happened, and 429 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: guys didn't blink, and that was a to me, a 430 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: huge step forward defensively. Iaiah, I'm going to disagree, nice, 431 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: I am going to say the offense. I'm going to 432 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: say the offense. The reason why I stay the office 433 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: is because I think there's there are more guys who 434 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: played well than on the defense side of the ball. 435 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: I think collectively, the defense played well because of a 436 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: handful of players, you know, mostly that guy ninety four. 437 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: He did a heck of a job. So you know, 438 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: Gregory went out there and bawled out, and because he 439 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: bawled out, the defense had a good day. I'm not 440 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: saying that other guys didn't do their job. I'm saying 441 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: that one guy made a huge splash and because of that, 442 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, they played well. On the officer side of 443 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: the ball. You had numerous guys that balled out. The 444 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: offensive line killed it right. Officer line absolutely killed it. 445 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: They only gave up a couple a couple of players 446 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: in the backfield. Uh you know, Ezekiel Elliott got going right, 447 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: which means that the officer line was also killing it. 448 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: In the ground game, Andy Dawton was accurate. You know, 449 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: Schultz was feisty. You know, all the receivers got off right. 450 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: So when you started looking at the whole unit, everybody 451 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: did their job. At the defenside of the ball, we 452 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: still almost gave up five hundred yards. So yeah, we 453 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: made some big plays to get turnovers, but we still 454 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: almost gave up five hundred yards. So I can't say 455 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: that the defense had a better day than offense. Feisty 456 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: whenever it comes to the offense and the way that 457 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: they played early on. I think the thing that got 458 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: you was the Michael Gallop touchdown passed. Whenever you were 459 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: down fourteen to three and you you needed a touchdown drive, 460 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: that had to be a touchdown drive. And I feel 461 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: like if that doesn't happen, you don't necessarily go on 462 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: the same run that you did because you just gave 463 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: up that eighty one yard passed that de Sean Jackson. 464 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: Rob said it yesterday. Normally, if that play happens earlier 465 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: in the season, you say, okay, he folds like the 466 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys turn around and they fold at that point. So 467 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: I think overall, when you look at that play in 468 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: the game, that could be the turning point was getting 469 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: Michael Gallop converting in the red zone, which is still 470 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: a struggle for this team. We're gonna talk about that 471 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: here in a little bit as well, but I think 472 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: that was something that really kind of turned the tide 473 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: a little bit. So I'll give it to the offense 474 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: on that one, even though I did like the way 475 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: the defense played. Now, whenever Zach Martin returns, this is 476 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: a separate question. When Zach Martin returns coming up maybe 477 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: this week, maybe the first round of the playoffs, should 478 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: we get that far, is it a foregone conclusion that 479 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: he is one back in the lineup and two what 480 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: position is he going to play? That's my question because 481 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: I think, yes, you put a future Hall of Famer 482 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: in the lineup, but is he gonna play guard or 483 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: is he gonna play tackle? Rob phillips Well, Jerry on 484 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: the Fan, a few minutes ago, didn't sound optimistic about 485 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: Zach this week. We'll see, but and Steven kind of 486 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: hinted at it yesterday on the fan that absolute best 487 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: case scenario when he hurt his calf would be week seventeen. 488 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: And they don't want to risk him obviously because he is. 489 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: To me, he's their best player. But if he gets 490 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: back this week, or whether it's the playoffs that they 491 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: get there, I'd put him at right tackle, right where 492 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: he was when he got hurt, because I think Connor 493 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 1: McGovern has really stepped up. I really like the way 494 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: he's playing at right guard, and I just think when 495 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: you talk about your best five, I would put Zach 496 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: at right tackle because he can play anywhere when he's healthy. Isaiah, Yeah, best, 497 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put him at guard. So yeah, let me 498 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: answer your question. Yes, heck yes, he goes straight back 499 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: into the lineup. Yeah, yeah, straight back into the lineup, 500 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: no questions asked. Uh. And then when he does get 501 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: back in the lineup, you put him in that guard. 502 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: The reason being, you know, if we do get past 503 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: the Giants and Washington folds, then we slide into the 504 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: playoffs and we played what Tampa Bay um, and you know, 505 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: obviously you got JPP on the ends, but you also 506 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: have what in dominicansu right and my tripper, uh, you know, 507 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: not tripping on the inside, so you might want to 508 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: have his presence there um and then and then you 509 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: take into the into the account that you know, it's 510 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: a calf injury, so he has to cover a lot 511 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: more ground as a tackle versus as a guard, so 512 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: it's a lot more stress on that part of your 513 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: body at that at the outside position. Yeah, one percent 514 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: agree with what you just said. I said for the 515 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: same reasons, and that calf injury, injury and him kicking 516 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: out with it. Uh, that was just one of the 517 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: boy products of him playing right tackle was that calf 518 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: injury and how much he was extending that leg. They 519 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: had to kick back that far at guard. So to me, 520 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: I ask that what position do you want to play? 521 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: Whatever you want to do is all right with me. 522 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: But I've definitely lined him up back up at guard. 523 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: All right. Moving on to a new question from Strike Chris. 524 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: This has to go with the offensive side of the 525 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: football as well. Kind of sticking with that same theme, 526 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: do you guys think that Mike McCarthy has influenced Kellen 527 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: Moore's play calling these past three games. Of course, talking 528 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: about the winning street Guysiah, I'm gonna say the second 529 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: half when he he probably smacked Kelly Moore upside ahead 530 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: and say give the ball to Zeke. That's what I 531 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: think it happened. I don't think prior to that. I 532 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: think Kelly Moore was doing what he wanted to do. 533 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: You heard me yelling in the studio when we were 534 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: watching the game live that they were they still weren't 535 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: giving the ball to Zeke when they got down to 536 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: the red zone, and it was it was infuriating me. 537 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 1: It was frustrating. They kept trying to force it with 538 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: the past, and I think Kelly Moore is still fighting 539 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: fighting those past demons or whenever he want. Whenever he 540 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: gets down there, he just can't get it from throwing 541 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: the ball here forgetting that he has a dog back there. 542 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: So I think I think you saw it change in 543 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: the second half and you started handing the ball to 544 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: Zeke a lot more. I think that was McCarthy saying, hey, 545 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: you better get this boy the ball. Heck, you know, 546 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: I thought that there was one point in the game 547 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: where Isaiah where you've been talking about that veto power 548 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: from coach McCarthy. I thought that there was a timeout 549 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: that he called and I felt as though he was 550 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: veto in the play. However, the next play we had 551 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 1: an illegal formation. I don't know if you guys remember 552 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: that sequence in the game or not, but there was 553 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: a part in it where it just seems like we 554 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: were down in the red zone and then we had 555 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: the illegal formation. Obviously we didn't get any points on it, 556 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: but at the same time, you could tell that he 557 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: is a lot more active on the offensive side of 558 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: the ball. And like you said, Isaiah, at the beginning 559 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: of the season, I believe that Kelly Moore had a 560 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: lot of leash, but not so much anymore. Yeah, I 561 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: mean I think McCarthy is meddling. No, do I think 562 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: he provides some advice. Yeah. I think it's probably gone 563 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: on all season long. I think you know red zone 564 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: is Kyle, you reference it. It's been a problem. They 565 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: were two of five on Sunday, they were one of 566 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,239 Speaker 1: three goals to go, and you can say they need 567 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: to run the ball. They've tried to run the ball 568 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: down there in some games and they haven't been able 569 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: to do it and so sometimes maybe that's why he 570 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: goes away from it. But I think if you want 571 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: to point it, you know, one thing for Kellen to 572 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: get better at, or you know, just the offense to 573 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: get better at, and some of it's play calling. It 574 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: It is situationally down there figuring out the best ways 575 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: to do it. And you can't just say it's because 576 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: you don't have your offensive line. You've got to find 577 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: ways around that. And you know what he did against 578 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: San Francisco with some of those trick plays that you know, 579 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: that's what a coach has to do is find ways 580 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: to figure it out. But yeah, I think Mike probably 581 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: has some hand in it just because of his experience 582 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: and trying to guide him. But I think he does 583 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: want to give Kellen some autonomy there for sure. I 584 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: think there's been a little bit of that all season long. 585 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: And also, by the way, I think what you said 586 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: a moment ago, Rob would be the perfect name for 587 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: one of those like coach parody Twitter accounts, those like 588 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: Burner accounts. It's Meddling McCarthy instead of like Tom the 589 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: Herman or whatever they've had in the past, And I 590 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: mean they have all those like those parody twitter accounts. 591 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: We need to have a Meddling McCarthy Twitter account. I 592 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: think that would be funny. Final question, we might have 593 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: time for one more after this is going seven and 594 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: nine and not making the playoffs. The worst case scenario 595 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. This comes from KB Johnson. If the 596 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys lose this week and they're out of the playoffs, 597 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: they're guarantee the top ten pick. If they win this 598 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: week and they don't make the playoffs, they're gonna be 599 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,239 Speaker 1: picking around sixteen, maybe fifteen in the draft. I think 600 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: as low as they could go would probably be fourteen, 601 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: but that would have to take a couple extra wins 602 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: in the middle there to work things out. But Isaiah, 603 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: I'll start with you on this one. Is seven and nine, 604 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 1: no playoffs the worst case scenario for Dallas. I mean yeah, 605 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean the only reason you played this game to 606 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: win one one trophy. I mean, you know what I'm saying. 607 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: I know I understand everybody's out there trying to jock 608 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: for positions, and maybe this isn't Maybe this is why 609 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm not a head coach or a GM. But you 610 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: show up to win a freaking super Bowl. If you 611 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: don't win a super Bowl. That's the worst case scenario. 612 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: That's that's the worst case scenario. You don't win that, 613 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: that is your goal. You don't go out there for 614 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: any other reason. Win a super Bowl, get money. That's it, 615 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: Like like those are those are the two reasons why 616 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: you play the game. And if you don't have an 617 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: opportunity to go win that trophy, it sucks. It sucks you. 618 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: Literally there was only one season that I had where 619 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: I didn't make the playoffs in my whole career, and 620 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: it sucked. It was a weird feeling. So and I've meant, 621 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: I've ran across many guys who didn't have that opportunity. 622 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: So yes, in my in my eyes, yes, that's the 623 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: worst case scenario. I understand in terms of draft stock 624 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, there's not that many amazing guys 625 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: coming out to draft this year that you just have 626 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 1: to have anyway. So if there is every year to 627 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: go seventy nine, this is probably it unless you're picking 628 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: it with what the top five picks. Other than that, 629 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's pretty equal. Heck, hey, Rob, 630 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: this is where I interject herm at wards, you play 631 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: the wind the game. Hello, it's just it's just what 632 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: it is. But I understand. I understand there is a 633 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: large contingent of of our fan base that loves the 634 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: draft possibilities and rankings, and there's so much that's gonna 635 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: go on from January all the way to April. With 636 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: the draft right now, none of that matters this team. 637 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: If we can actually get into the playoffs, I wouldn't 638 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: care where we pick in the first round. I would 639 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: you know what I want to pick thirty second. That's 640 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: what I really want to pick. Pick us because if 641 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: you if you pick thirty second, that means you want 642 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: something right. So that's where I want to be. I 643 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: don't know, like there's a lot, there's a lot that 644 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: goes into it. There's a lot of stock that's put 645 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: into these players that's coming in right now. Uh, this 646 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: coaching staff is trying to salvage this year. And if 647 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm coach Mike McCarthy with the year that I have, 648 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: if after this last after Sunday night, if you end 649 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: up being the NFC East champ, because here is that 650 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: one heck of a year coaching. Yeah, and Kyle, I'll 651 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: be tuning into the Draft show today and it is today, right, 652 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: Yes it is. Yeah, and and so like you know, 653 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: I don't I don't have the insight you guys have 654 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: on it. But they've missed out on a top three pick, 655 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: so to me, they've missed already missed out on a 656 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: bona fide can't miss prospect. So that ship has sailed. 657 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: And at this point, you I mean, you're just it 658 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: has That hasn't changed. You're trying to win games, trying 659 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: to get in the playoffs, and then see what happens draft. Well, 660 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: wherever you are. Dak Prescott was one hundred and thirty 661 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,719 Speaker 1: fifth pick as a compensatory draft pick in twenty sixteen, 662 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: you can find players. They have a good scouting department, 663 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: They're still gonna have a relatively high pick regardless, and 664 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: just go make it happen regardless, as in whenever we 665 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean whenever we lose the Super Bowl, I mean 666 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: we're gonna win the Super Bowl, so I mean we're 667 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot pick. I mean, it's gonna happen. 668 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 1: And by the way I said this, we had one 669 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: more question, will they erect an Andy Dalton statue if 670 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: we win the Super Bowl at AT and T Stadium? 671 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 1: This is from Senior lost three on the periscope stream, 672 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: do you think so? Yes, No, gentlemen, yes, whenever we 673 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, that's what's happening, right, No, he 674 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: would be the new Nick Foles. Well, they they made 675 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: a statue of Nick Foles in Philly, So then that 676 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: means I'm just saying that the red rifle will get one. 677 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: So no, man, Okay, okay, that's fine. I guess that's fine. 678 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: By the way, if I can come back from two 679 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: and seven and win my fantasy league title, which I 680 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: did this past weekend, the Cowboys can go from three 681 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: and nine and go win a super Bowl. So I 682 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: just wanted to throw that flex in there. But also 683 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: that there, how about that fantasy champion back to back years. 684 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take a step aside before we 685 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: go into this a final segment. But when we come back, 686 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: talk about Callumore. Should he stay or should he go? 687 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: When we come back on Talking Cowboys presented by Geico, 688 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: We're back in a tasty treat that's sweeping air waves 689 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: and taste buds. It's new Doctor Pepper and cream Soda. 690 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen Doctor cream sodas he a new combone, 691 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: that's music to my ears. 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At the same time, 726 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: it's like it's like a symphony in my head and 727 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: you can hear me clicking my pin very loudly when 728 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: you have these on. Yeah, I heard that that pin 729 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: clicking very early in that first segment because of the 730 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: bose Wyat comfort to ear buds and the headsets now 731 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: we have. Now we have also talked about hearing. We've 732 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 1: been hearing rumors around Kellen Moore, and the first report 733 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,800 Speaker 1: came from Mike Prator of the Idaho Press. He reported 734 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 1: on Twitter that Kellen Moore had interviewed for the Boise 735 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,359 Speaker 1: State head coaching job. Of course, our offensive coordinator played 736 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: from played for Boise State from two thousand and eight 737 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: to twenty eleven. He was top ten in Heisman voting 738 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: three out of his four seasons on campus and as 739 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: one of the winning his quarterbacks in collegiate football history. 740 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: So I asked this question on our Mixed Match show 741 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve with Jesse Holly, Date Newton and Barry Church, 742 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: and I kind of want to oppose this to you 743 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 1: guys as well, but would you be upset if Kellen 744 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: Moore left? Because there's growth from Kellen Moore. You've seen that, 745 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,320 Speaker 1: You've seen the fact that he's grown as an offensive 746 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: coordinator in his second year in the job, and really 747 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: his third or fourth year as a coach overall. But 748 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: would you be overly upset if he took this head 749 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: coaching job? And left for at least seemingly greener more 750 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: potato we pastures in Idaho. Isaiah, I I like it too. 751 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: I would not be angry. I wouldn't be angry at all. 752 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: I mean, when people have opportunities, you gotta hop on him. 753 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,759 Speaker 1: These things don't pop open, you know, and then they 754 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: don't pop open too often, especially um this situation like 755 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 1: he has there with Boise States. So if he if 756 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: he takes advantage of opportunity, good for him. Good thing 757 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: is I think we already have another officeive coordinator on staff, 758 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: so we'll be all right. Who are you talking about there? 759 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 1: I just want to clarify the McCarthy of Mike, Okay, 760 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: I just wanted to make sure you think he would 761 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: call plays you think he would absolutely absolutely no love 762 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: for Garrett nust Meyer or excuse me, Doug nust Meyer. 763 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: Garrett's his son. That place for flatman Marcus. So he's 764 00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: a little young for the job, like many we saw bath. Yeah, Gary, 765 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: get up here. We lost one young boy genius. We 766 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: gotta get another one here, hurried up. I know you 767 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: got to play at school, alright, God, Kyle, oh man, 768 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 1: I look, I thought about this, and you've asked the 769 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: question before, and I just feel like, you know, give 770 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: all this up. You've better come on in. It's a Cowboys. 771 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how you do that. But if that's 772 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: and I understand for for him being that's home and 773 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: he's had so many skins on the wall back. Uh, 774 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: if Boys, he stayed for thirty two years old, I 775 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: mean getting that head coaching experience, if that's where he 776 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: really is, and and that job is a dream job 777 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: for him, Man, kudos are kelling and you know, by 778 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,840 Speaker 1: all means take that position. He wouldn't. I feel like 779 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna you know, Mike McCarthy to me would be 780 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: the person that would be called in those plays if 781 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: there wasn't a killing more this year. So uh yeah, 782 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad at him for leaving, but I just, 783 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: I mean be hard. I'd be hard to leave though, 784 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: that just be me. Yeah. They The fish on the 785 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: Fan asked me if I had a gut feeling about it, 786 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: and I really don't, because you know, obviously he's interested. 787 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he kind of said that it's a unique opportunity. 788 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: He's going to go through the process of seeing what 789 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 1: it entails and then make a decision. But but the 790 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: Joneses are very persuasive, you know, and and they they 791 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: obviously want him to stay Kyle Kyle. You asking like 792 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: based on his performance as the play callers, Yeah, yeah, 793 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: you can have said if he were gone exactly yes, 794 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, the way that he brings a new 795 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: modern look to the offense. I think we all could 796 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 1: agree that Kellen Moore has done a better job than 797 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: Scott Lanahan did here. Yeah, and we talked about the 798 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: red zone. That's been probably the biggest thing you can 799 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: point to that needs to improve. But they were in 800 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: terms of yardage, they were number one last year. Uh, 801 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 1: you know, there are things you can point to about 802 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: the run game and and and being more balanced. But 803 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 1: I have been impressed with the last month or so adapting, 804 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: adapting this scheme without Dak and being more balanced and 805 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: finding a way to make it work with the offensive 806 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 1: line like that's and what he did on Sunday, what 807 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: they did on Sunday offensively was really impressive. I think 808 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: you're seeing him grow as a play caller. So yeah, 809 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: I think he's got a lot of promise. He does 810 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,720 Speaker 1: that promise, And honestly, if you want to talk about 811 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: coaching success and going to a specific school to have 812 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 1: coaching success. Boise State would be that because if you 813 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: look at every coach since nineteen ninety seven, they have 814 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 1: left their job to go to a Power five conference. 815 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,919 Speaker 1: Houston Nutt went to Arkansas after a year, Dirk co Orridor, 816 00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how to say his last name, He 817 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 1: went to Arizona State, Dan Hawkins went to Colorado. Chris Peterson, 818 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: of course he left and went to You Dub. Of course, 819 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: mister Isaiah's stand back. He's had some success up at 820 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: You Dub. And then Brian Harson of course, just leaving 821 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: to go and take the head coaching job at Auburn. 822 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: So one, two, three, or five straight head coaches at 823 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,840 Speaker 1: Boise State have left to go on to go to 824 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: a Power five conference, and now Boise State has an 825 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: opportunity to bring one of their own back. They're gonna 826 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: go after Kellamore. I have no doubt about that. That's 827 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 1: my gut feeling. But I agree with both of you. 828 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: Why would you leave or is there really that much 829 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: incentive to leave? I think that's the biggest question whenever 830 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 1: it comes to him taking that job. But that's gonna 831 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: do it. For us. You're on Talking Cowboys today. We've 832 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 1: already gone over a couple of minutes, but want to 833 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,920 Speaker 1: thank every one of you for joining us here over 834 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: the last forty five of them, and we'll be back 835 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 1: again tomorrow nine thirty to talk through the Cowboys and 836 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: the Giants will preview this matchup, and then Thursday we'll 837 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: say it with our chest, continuing on into the weekend. 838 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: No show on New Year's but we do have a 839 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,439 Speaker 1: New Year's Eve version of Talking Cowboys, but for today 840 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: for Chris Beam in the back, for HECKM. Harrison, for 841 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and Isaiah stand back up Kyle Yeoman saying 842 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: so long from the Star in Frisco. We'll see you 843 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 1: tomorrow on Talking Cowboys, Presented by Geico. This has been 844 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas 845 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Club.