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Speaker 1: How are we doing with my people? Hopefully everyone's having

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Speaker 1: a good day, enjoying. I would say, the last official

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Speaker 1: month of summer and then football season starts. Well officially,

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Speaker 1: we got football games this week preseason, so let's enjoy

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Speaker 1: the next couple weeks of preseason games and a lot

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Speaker 1: We'll have a podcast today, then we'll have another podcast tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: I'm a podcaster, so I'm ready to podcast. And that's

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Speaker 1: the game plan. Today. We will talk about some thoughts

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Speaker 1: on Carson Wentz that viral picture of him practicing looking

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Speaker 1: roll back already, and we haven't even got to week one,

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Speaker 1: and just some other stuff. The Hall of Fame game

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Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz and there was a viral video. Actually

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Speaker 1: not sixty four quarterbacks better than Carson Wentz. But this

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Speaker 1: He had Colt shorts on, he had a commander's practice

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Speaker 1: They're all good people. People really like them. They treat

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432
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433
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Speaker 1: A couple other things around the league is the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame game, which I gotta be honest, I watch

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Speaker 1: bits and pieces of I mean, what else is on TV?

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Speaker 1: There's nothing really August. I'm not really watching August baseball.

466
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Speaker 1: There's no other sports on it was I threw it

467
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Speaker 1: on watch Sack Wilson play a little bit. It wasn't

468
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Speaker 1: super locked in, but I watched. Almost six and a

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Speaker 1: half million people watched, and I looked it up just

470
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Speaker 1: to put it into context. The Lakers and Warriors, who

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Speaker 1: have never played in the Steph Curry era in a

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Speaker 1: playoff series, they did for the first time this year,

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Speaker 1: and in Game six, the deciding game, it averaged a

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Speaker 1: little over seven and a half million people, which was

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Speaker 1: a historic number for a second round series. The two

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Speaker 1: biggest brands in the NBA, Lebron James, Steph Curry Lakers

477
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: Warriors did under eight million people, so there was less

478
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Speaker 1: than a million and a half difference for the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame game the Hall of Fame game in the NFL.

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00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: Like I say this over and over, this is not

481
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Speaker 1: going to last forever. I'm not putting a date on it.

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00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: I'm not putting a year on it. I don't know

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Speaker 1: when it's going to end. But the end is not near.

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Speaker 1: The end is definitely not in sight. The NFL is

485
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Speaker 1: so freaking popular they can get almost seven million people

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Speaker 1: to watch a Hall of Fame game, which is easily

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Speaker 1: the worst preseason game of them all. I mean, it's

488
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Speaker 1: it's just a joke. Really, the Hall of Fame game,

489
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: year in, year out, is much more about interviewing the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, the candidates, the guys being inducted, right Barber,

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Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, Zach Thomas, whatever. Those guys all get interviewed

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Speaker 1: throughout the game. That's to me why I kind of

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Speaker 1: pay attention interested to hear what they think, usually wearing

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Speaker 1: their gold jacket or like their Hall of Fame polos.

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Speaker 1: It's just kind of a cool moment how I looked

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Speaker 1: up the lights around. So usually the game is just

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Speaker 1: kind of a if it was like a put together

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Speaker 1: high school game. But football, man, it's never been more popular.

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Speaker 1: And if you can get almost seven million people to

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Speaker 1: watch the Hall of Fame game. The other thing that

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00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: jumped out to me, not that this is new, but

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Speaker 1: I went to I did CrossFit for the first time

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Speaker 1: on Friday, and the guy that convinced me to go, Chris,

504
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: was like, God, Rogers Sherlok's happy, didn't he I'm like, yeah,

505
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: he look like a pig. And shit, Rogers has hasn't

506
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: looked as happy since who knows when, and it's not

507
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: he's backing it up with his actions, with the amount

508
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: of money that he gave back for the salary cap

509
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: and working with his contract with the Jets. But it's

510
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: all over his face, and he's forgot that's thirty ninety.

511
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes his face he can look more like forty eight.

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00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: For all the ayahuasca and the dark rooms and the

513
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: cold tubs or whatever. He's not the youngest looking thirty

514
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: nine year old you've ever seen, but his joy, how

515
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: much funny he's having. The NFL does not need him

516
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: to be great. Like I said on a podcast or

517
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: two ago, Tom Brady's gone. No one cares. Not that

518
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: no one cares, but the league. It will not have

519
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: one rating impact at all. If Rogers has a big

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00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: year and he is a major story, he's always a

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00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: major story. But if he just has Lee's the Jets,

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Speaker 1: who are obviously New York enormous fan which I expect,

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00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 1: I think this could be one of the biggest stories

524
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: in recent memory, and it's gonna have a lot of parallels,

525
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: but on I would say a much bigger scale because

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00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks are not nearly the brand of the

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00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: New York Jets. So if Rogers gets this team to

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00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs, double digit wins, Competing to win the division,

529
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: you could argue would be the number one story in

530
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: the league. And you could see it on his face.

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Speaker 1: He thinks they're going to be really good. Every time

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00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: he talks, I really like this team. I really believe

533
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: in this team. And this is not some guy that's

534
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: not Philip Rivers saying that right that most years they're

535
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: struggling to win ten games. Some of his time his

536
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: tenure with the Chargers not great. Year in year out,

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00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: Rogers was on Super Bowl contending teams, teams that you

538
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: could say when the playoffs started, had a chance to

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00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: win it all. Like he knows what a good team

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00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: looks like. He knows what talent looks like. Same with Brady.

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Speaker 1: When Brady got to Tampa, you knew that he had

542
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: a pretty good idea. We had a squad. When you've

543
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: played around other good players, you know what a talented

544
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: team looks like. Right, If you've worked for Apple or Google,

545
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: like you're gonna know innovation, Right, if you've played for

546
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: the Packers for the last fifteen years, you've got a

547
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: pretty good idea what a playoff level team looks like.

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00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: You're not taking just like educated guesses you're like, Yeah,

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00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: that guy's a player, that guy's a player. This guy's

550
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: gonna be good, right. I don't think he's doing that

551
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: just randomly to try to boost up the morale and

552
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: the confidence of his squad. I think he believes it

553
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: because the older you get, you're not into fake it,

554
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: and as we've seen with Rogers, he ain't into like

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00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: you'll just say how it is, and if you just

556
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: go off his body language, you got to be pretty

557
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: bullish on the Jets. And last but not least, I

558
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: understand coaches can be very, very very sensitive to material

559
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: about game plans and their team getting out. It's why

560
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: when you see all the information about your team and

561
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: theviral videos during training camp, whether it's on Twitter or

562
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: Instagram or wherever you look on the internet, that stops

563
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: once the season happens, because the media is not allowed

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Speaker 1: into practice starting week one. Actually it starts like the

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00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: last week of training camp. But right now, if you

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Speaker 1: go to an NFL practice any of the thirty two teams,

567
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: the entire thing is open, so the media can stand

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Speaker 1: there and watch from the first whistle at practice to

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Speaker 1: the final huddle up practice and they break for lunch.

570
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: You get to watch the entire thing. The moment the

571
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: season starts, you get fifteen minutes of practice, you don't

572
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: get to watch anything. You definitely don't get to watch

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Speaker 1: any group or team drills, right And I think a

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Speaker 1: big reason for that is they don't want anyone seeing

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00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: the game plan stuff right now at all these practices.

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00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: If I go to Seattle, if I go to the Giants,

577
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: if I go to the Niners, if I go to whoever,

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00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: for the most part in early August, you are just

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00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: running your place, right. You're running your basic run plays,

580
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 1: you're running your basic pass plays, and you're building upon

581
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: them every day. And you're using them in different situations, right,

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00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: whether it's red zone, whether it's two minute drill, whether

583
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: it's backed up however, whether it's third and long. You

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00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: just you're fucking with different situations. You're trying to put

585
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: your team in just adverse situations or just normal football

586
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: situations and see how they react, seeing what you have

587
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: to work on. The closer and closer you get to

588
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: the season. The Packers who have a big like live

589
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: scrimmage slash practice at Lambeau which every year looks incredible,

590
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: and a lot of teams do this right. I saw

591
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: the Eagles do it the other night, would not stream

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00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: it on their website, and a lot of the Packer

593
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: fans were pissed off. And Mark Murphy, the president, who's

594
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: kind of like the pseudo owner, was like, you know,

595
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: football Operations was very very sensitive to putting that online

596
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: because we've got a new quarterbacks. Like, guys, we know

597
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: your offenses. You guys the LA floor McVeigh shanahan like,

598
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: you guys are gonna run the plays that you've been

599
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: running with eron, I promise you are. This notion that

600
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: you're letting out state secrets by streaming the practice online

601
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: is laughable. Here's the other thing. You play the Bears

602
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: Week one. I would bet ten thousand dollars that the

603
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: Bears had a representative in Lambeau that game. They had

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00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: someone there taking notes, just like whoever I think the

605
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: Patriots play the Eagles, right, So when the Eagles had

606
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: their open practice at the link, there was someone from

607
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: the Patriots or the Patriots paid to be there. So

608
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: this notion that by not streaming it you're keeping things

609
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: in house or hiding it is kind of lappable. The

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00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: reason Jordan Love is going to succeed or fail has

611
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: nothing to do with people being able to watch your

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00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: practice online on August fifth. It doesn't matter one ioed.

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Speaker 1: I believe that deep into my soul now I get

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00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: where coaches their reaction is always going to be don't

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Speaker 1: do it. No right, No, that's always going to be

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Speaker 1: a coach's reaction. No. I remember when I worked from

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Speaker 1: President State, when we would do a walk through on

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Speaker 1: the road, whether it's a Ruckers, Wisconsin, Boise, wherever we

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00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: were playing, Pat Hill would always have me. He'd go

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00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: go check trash cans and hope to find the practice

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Speaker 1: script from the other team, and maybe you would gain something.

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Speaker 1: And then you'd hear stories over the years that other teams,

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Speaker 1: not even that we were playing, but just in general

624
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: college or pro, would leave fake practice scripts in the

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00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: trash can to try to throw you off. So you're

626
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: constantly doing gamesmanship. But when you play a game like

627
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: your core package of plays, you don't game plan all

628
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: those practice plays. You game plan the plays that you

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00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: think are going to work against their scheme. So the Bears,

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00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: you are going to run plays with Jordan Love that

631
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Speaker 1: you think will work against the defense that you fluse

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00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: runs just like your defense will try to run coverages

633
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: and different schemes against their run game, just corral justin

634
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: fields that you think will work against their offense. So

635
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: I think sometimes people can overthink this, get way too

636
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: scared about something that ultimately doesn't matter. But it doesn't

637
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: change the fact the packer just said no and the

638
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: fans were not happy, and you're just gonna have to wait.

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Speaker 1: Because I think Jordan Love I've seen people say he's sucked.

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Speaker 1: In practice. I have seen people, you know, retweet viral

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Speaker 1: videos of him thrown between two defenders who aren't even

642
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: putting up their hands, thinking it's like the greatest pass

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Speaker 1: since prime Brett Farv. I don't really have a take.

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00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: My expectations aren't high, but I wouldn't go as far

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Speaker 1: as I just think he's gonna suck. I've said over

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00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: and over. My bet would simply be it's gonna come

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Speaker 1: to an end. You don't typically go Farv Rogers farv

648
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 1: Rogers two point zero. It usually ends. It's more likely

649
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: to be just an average to below average quarterback than

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Speaker 1: some fringe Pro Bowl. So I'm excited to see it.

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Speaker 1: It's if he is good. I think one Peyton Manning's

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00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: all over him for the Quarterback Series, it would be

653
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: one of the most intriguing storylines. The other thing with

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Speaker 1: Rogers and this happened with the Patriots and Brady is

655
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: anytime you break up. Anyone listening to this who's broken

656
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: up with someone or been dumped? What do you do now?

657
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: With social media? You kind of keep tabs? How are

658
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: they doing? How are they looking? You know, if you're

659
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: a girl, like is he getting fat? Is he losing

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00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: his hair? If you're a guy, like, does the guy

661
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: she's dating or married to make more money than me?

662
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: Is her life better than me? Even though we know

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Speaker 1: how fake everything is online, but still it's just it's

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Speaker 1: a human reaction. It's no different in football, Like every

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Speaker 1: Packer fan is going to be keeping an eye on

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00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: the Jets, and Aaron Rodgers is going to be keeping

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Speaker 1: an eye on Jordan Love even if he likes the guy.

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Speaker 1: You think Aaron Rodgers wants the Packers to have more

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00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 1: success than him and vice versa. Of course not. So

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Speaker 1: that's just we saw it with Brady, and we saw

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00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: with Tampa, and we saw with the Patriots. It was like,

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00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: God Belichick has nothing Cam Newton. Their disaster and Brady

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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. Huge, huge win for the Brady contingent, huge,

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Speaker 1: huge l for the Patriots. If the Packers win five

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Speaker 1: or six games, even if they are very very equipped

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Speaker 1: to take on a young quarterback next year in the draft,

677
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: and the team actually is pretty loaded, and then Jordan Love,

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Speaker 1: they won't even own that much money. It's not even

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00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: that big a deal. And ultimately Rogers wanted to leave,

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Speaker 1: so who even cares. What are they supposed to do

681
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: hold them hostage. They did the right thing, and Rodgers

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Speaker 1: goes on to win a bunch of games and be

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Speaker 1: in the ANFC Championship. It'll be just, you know, somewhat

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Speaker 1: a black mark for the Packers organization. It just will.

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Speaker 1: And if it's the opposite, if Rogers missed the playoffs

686
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Jordan Love they're the seventh seed,

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Speaker 1: it would be an enormous win for the Packers. It's

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Speaker 1: why when you roll it back to back when I

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Speaker 1: was in college and they made the pivot from like

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00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: Ted Thompson got rid of Brett Faarr and they went

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Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers and it worked. He became a fucking genius.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was it's one of the great moves

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Speaker 1: in like NFL history. It really is, like there's some

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Speaker 1: of the great moves in NFL history, a little trading

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Speaker 1: Montana and getting rid Offar for Rogers and Steve Young,

696
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Speaker 1: Like it doesn't get any better than that. But most

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Speaker 1: moves are like getting rid of that guy for some

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00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: scrub or some dude that's not good enough, and then

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Speaker 1: you're drafting a quarterback the next year, it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna betch Carson Wentz for Jalen Hurts, Like how

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Speaker 1: is this gonna go? Three years later, the dudes on

702
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: a two hundred million dollar contract had you within you know,

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Speaker 1: a couple first downs and a pi of winning the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Like that worked out pretty well, pretty good

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Speaker 1: little transition. So it's just gonna be a talking point

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Speaker 1: that I find pretty enjoyable and I'm looking forward to. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's do a little mail bank at John middlecoff is

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Speaker 1: the Instagram at John middlecoff is the Instagram fire in

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Speaker 1: those dms. Appreciate everyone who has. Let's start with Zach.

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Speaker 1: I played soccer at Ohio State. Our tickets were free,

711
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 1: and there were several occasions when we were mid workout

712
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: on the indoor turf field when a football position group

713
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: came through and basically kicked us off. Did it bother

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00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: us in the moment, no question. However, in the years

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Speaker 1: that followed, all the Olympic sports, soccer included, benefited from

716
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: completely new, state of the art facilities, and we know

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Speaker 1: where that money came from. Your comments were smart on,

718
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: were spot on, and they shouldn't be triggering to anyone.

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Speaker 1: It's just a fact that football foots the bill for

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Speaker 1: essentially all of college athletics. I don't know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't even trying to trigger anybody. It was just

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Speaker 1: just a fact, you know. I mean football, especially at

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Speaker 1: the school like Ohio State. I mean, Ohio State's much

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Speaker 1: closer to an NFL team than they are your run

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Speaker 1: of the mill college team. I would imagine they are.

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00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they're definitely a top two or three program

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Speaker 1: in the country, just in terms of revenue, in terms

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Speaker 1: of importance, in terms of fan base. They're just they're

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Speaker 1: a monster, and you're really a pretty good athlete. I mean,

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Speaker 1: playing any sport at a place in Ohio State is very,

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Speaker 1: very difficult. But you know, it's just there's a clear

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Speaker 1: hierarchy at any school, like you go. I heard Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know this. He started his college career

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Speaker 1: because he played at Texas as a walk on and

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Speaker 1: eventually I think got a scholarship started at Duke, and

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Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, when I showed up the Duke,

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Speaker 1: my high school felt more important than their football team.

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Speaker 1: They were a basketball school. So like when the guys

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Speaker 1: walk around Duke, you know who's kind of paying the bills,

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Speaker 1: the basketball team. And I just think there's nothing wrong

741
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Speaker 1: with just embracing reality. Like the WNBA should send thank

742
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: you letters every day to the NBA, to the players,

743
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: to the Players' Union, to Adam Silver and David Stern.

744
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: They pay for the league. There's you know this. You

745
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: got to know where your bread's buttered. You got to

746
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: know who compensates you, right, You got to know why

747
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: you're in business. Some businesses make money on their own

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00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: in a lot lot of different athletic endeavors. It's subsidized

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Speaker 1: by someone else. Football subsidizes itself and everyone else. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's dive into Joe's question question for the pod. I'm

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Speaker 1: Aniner fan, never really had faith in Lance, and I

752
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: wish they would have picked fields instead. Anyway, do you

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Speaker 1: think it's possible that Donald could resurrect his career with

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Speaker 1: the Niners. I've heard you say good things about him

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Speaker 1: in the past. I personally feel like this is the

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Speaker 1: best situation for him, coming from the Jets and the Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Or do you think purty is the way to go? Well.

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Speaker 1: I definitely think that any young player, once they get

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Speaker 1: with a really talented team and a good offensive coach,

760
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Speaker 1: especially a quarterback, has a chance to resurrect his career

761
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: if it's worth or possible to play well. Not Ever,

762
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: some people just can't play for whatever reason. I would

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Speaker 1: put Sam Darnald on a guy that. Yeah, if Sam

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Speaker 1: Darnald got his opportunities with the Niners, I think he

765
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Speaker 1: would look better than he ever would. My question is this,

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Speaker 1: I'm recording this on Monday. Had a fantastic practice. He's

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Speaker 1: fully healthy if he stays healthy throughout the season, which

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Speaker 1: obviously is a big If he started whatever eight games

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Speaker 1: and he got hurt in one and had a devastating injury,

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Speaker 1: wasn't all his fault, Kyle. You can't block an all

771
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: pro with a backup tight end, but that's conversation for

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Speaker 1: a different day. Purdy's just gonna play and Purdy Kyle

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Speaker 1: loves Brock party and they're gonna be good with Brock

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Speaker 1: Purty now super Bowl good. Who knows? Can they win

775
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: playoff games? Time will tell, right, you know. I think

776
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: there's still question marks on Purty throughout the entire season.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he I mean, he only started basically

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Speaker 1: starting in December last year. But I think there's a

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Speaker 1: very good chance that if Brock Purty can stay healthy,

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Speaker 1: that Sam Donald never really gets to play. And I think, though,

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Speaker 1: to me, the biggest question mark on August seventh, how

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Speaker 1: the next two and a half weeks play out. Who

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Speaker 1: wins the backup quarterback John I'm going I'm betting on

784
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald because I think the coach like Sam Darnold

785
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: more than Trey Lance. But if Trey Lance wins that job,

786
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: then that tells you everything you need to know. I

787
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Speaker 1: think that's the number one thing we have to look

788
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Speaker 1: forward to. It's August seventh. Basically, by August twenty fifth,

789
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Speaker 1: I think we'll have a really good idea before the

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Speaker 1: final cuts who has won this job. They play the

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Speaker 1: Raiders this week in joint practices. Then they have a

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Speaker 1: preseason game where Perdy's not gonna play. So Lance and

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00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 1: Sam who gets the first set of reps in that game?

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00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: How do they both look? Because they're gonna be playing

795
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Speaker 1: with backups, the Debos, the Auks, the Kittles, they're not

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00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: gonna be playing in that game. Used check McCaffrey, Like,

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00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna be playing with a lot of random guys.

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Speaker 1: So if you do play well, it's gonna be pretty impressive.

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Speaker 1: Last night checked the Raiders defense isn't exactly the eighty

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Speaker 1: five Bears. So I think preseason games, well, I don't

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Speaker 1: put much stock into him, like I saw Derek Carr

802
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: is gonna play or Russell Wilson, Like, it doesn't really

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00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: matter to me how they look. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that doesn't reflect whether they're playing well or not.

805
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: But whatever, I'll judge them on regular season games. Backups

806
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 1: though it matters toward coaches, man, it does, especially young players,

807
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: backup position battles, where you are in the depth chart,

808
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: it has a big impact. This college football realignment is

809
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: now just for money and it's minor league. NFL two

810
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: conferences just like the NFL. With all that is going on.

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Speaker 1: Should they change the rules to allow college football players

812
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 1: to leave the NFL earlier than three years. Let those

813
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: guys go make more money at an earlier year now,

814
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: rather than making them stay in college. Why would the

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Speaker 1: NFL want that? Though? The NFL, what percent of players

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00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: think in recent memory would be ready to go right

817
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: out of like year one of college football? It's a

818
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Speaker 1: very very small list, it really is. Or even after

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Speaker 1: their sophomore year. You're talking the elite of the elite

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Speaker 1: of Chase maybe a Saquon right, some of these elite

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Speaker 1: O line and D line players. It is not a

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Speaker 1: high percentage. Yet a lot of guys would leave. You

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Speaker 1: know who doesn't want that? The NFL, the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: likes that rule. They don't want to worry about a

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Speaker 1: bunch of nineteen and twenty year olds coming in their

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Speaker 1: league who aren't ready to go because there's a physical element.

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Speaker 1: How often, if you're listening to this, if you're following

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Speaker 1: your team's training camp right now, is a second year

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Speaker 1: player from like LSU or Texas or USC or Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: or whoever on your team making a big jump that

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00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 1: did not play much as a rookie, and that guy

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Speaker 1: was in college at minimum three years. A lot of

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Speaker 1: them are four or five. So football is not basketball.

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Speaker 1: And even in basketball, I see what the Warriors. They

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00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: got a bunch of random young guys on the team.

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Speaker 1: None of them are ready to contribute to real games.

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Speaker 1: So these leagues want guys. One thing that football has

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00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: in college is like good coaching. These coaches football make

839
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: a lot of money. A lot of them are pretty good.

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Speaker 1: A lot of these coaches defensive coordinators, offensive coordinators could

841
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: easily be doing it in the pros as well, so

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00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: they help develop and put these guys in position to

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00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: get better. Plus physically, most guys develop a lot nineteen

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Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two years old. Once you're like Jason Kelse.

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Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey probably hasn't got stronger in seven years, but

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Speaker 1: that period when he was like nineteen to twenty three

847
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: was a big growth period for him as a player.

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Speaker 1: I'm just using him as an example. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't think that'll change. It is not the NFL's problem,

850
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: slash issue, or honestly even worry about what's going on

851
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: with conference realignment, Like I mean, if it has ramifications

852
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: on the development and the play, then maybe, But as

853
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: of right now. They don't care. That's their problem. Who

854
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: is more responsible for the death of the PAC twelve

855
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: for having the backbone, for having no backbone to negotiate

856
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 1: one huge college TV deal? Well, if I was the

857
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: SEC or, I was Ohio State, in Michigan or USC

858
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: or Texas, I would slowly, but surely, if not much

859
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: more quickly, break away from the NCUBA. Why do they

860
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: need the NCUBLEA these leagues negotiate their television deals. It's

861
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: not the NCUBA. The NCAA just tells them the rules.

862
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: Why don't they develop their own rules. Why don't they

863
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: go how about we have one hundred scholarships. Why don't

864
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: they just go independent? It feels to me like college

865
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: football has outgrown the nc DOUBLEA. That's what it feels

866
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: like to me now when it speaks to the PAC twelve,

867
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 1: like I said, it was Larry Scott, and I am

868
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: not anti. I'm glad the soccer player hit me like,

869
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: I'm not anti those sports. I have a lot of respect.

870
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: You play soccer at Ohio State, at Duke, at North

871
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: Carolina at Texas, or baseball or any of the Olympic sports. Swimming,

872
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: it's hard as shit. My girlfriend that I dated in

873
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: high school through college d one water polo scholarship. It's

874
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: hard a lot of what is just asked upon you

875
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: relative to a normal student. It's not easy by any means.

876
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: It just doesn't generate any money, so relative to the money.

877
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: But Larry Scott didn't understand the importance of putting football

878
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: number one, two, three, four and five, and everything else

879
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: after benefits everything else after, like your golf programs, your

880
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: swimming programs, or soccer programs benefit when football is kicking

881
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: ass and taking names at a conference level, at a

882
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: university level. And I don't think Larry, who is a

883
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: tennis player, understood that. And he had visions of something

884
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: different and it was awful. Now, one thing I always

885
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: heard is Larry Scott's argument was, what wasn't my fault

886
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: that USC hired Sark and hired Clay Helton. He didn't

887
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: hire the coaches right, But his vision as a conference

888
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: was a big, big downfall for you know what used

889
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: to be known as the Pac twelve and now people

890
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: are calling the Pack four ak just it's dead. Was

891
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: listening to a pod a couple weeks ago, and you

892
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: were talking about when you went bald well, decided yesterday

893
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 1: to join the Bald Brotherhood hit twenty six this year

894
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: and decided it was time. That was right around the

895
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: time I did it as well. Was it the army

896
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 1: for eight years and deployed three times, so wearing a

897
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: helmet for three years did not do me any favors.

898
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: Appreciate your service, Chris Jones. Problem seems bigger than it feels.

899
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: Oh this for mailback. Patty and Kelsey left money on

900
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: the table for more players to be signed. We trade

901
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: away Tyreek, which I was good with, but not having

902
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: CJ signed like the Packers. With Rogers and refusing to

903
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: sign players that the team truly meets. Aaron wanted weapons

904
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: and they spent high picks on defense. Same with the Chiefs.

905
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 1: Just feels that eventually Patty will grow tired of the

906
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: front office not getting him a weapons and signing a

907
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: plus players that are on the team after not taking

908
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: all the money he probably deserves to be paid. One

909
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: major issue, or I would say not issue, but difference

910
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: with Mahomes and Rogers is Mahomes just won the Super Bowl,

911
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: like that just happened. You know. Part of Rogers' angst

912
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: edginess he was taking a lot of shit because it

913
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: was like, God, this guy can't get out of out

914
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: of the championship round. If Rogers, I think he's been

915
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: a five conference championship games. Obviously, he's only been to

916
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: the one super Bowl and he won it. If of

917
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: those five conference championship games, right, he would have won

918
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: a couple of them and lost the super Bowl, I

919
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: think we would look at him a lot different, and

920
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: I think he would have been He would have thought

921
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 1: of his time in Green Bay a lot different. Like

922
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: just getting to the super Bowl. Peyton Manning did it,

923
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: Elway did it. It's a big deal. You're allowed to

924
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: lose it, but when you don't get there, that's a

925
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: big hurdle to cross. And the difference is Mahomes and Andy.

926
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: I would say Andy and Veitch when it comes to

927
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: Mahomes and how could you blame him? He trusts those

928
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: guys to the nth degree. What they say, they've always

929
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: backed up, and even if they haven't done maybe everything

930
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: that he's wanted them to do. He knows how talented

931
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: Andy is. And even last year is a good example.

932
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: All the guys Beach drafted, how they contributed to a

933
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: Super Bowl team. You know, Rogers started nitpicking, they started

934
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: getting rid of older players. It's not like they were

935
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: signing guys. The Chiefs are always aggressive to do stuff.

936
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: They tried to sign Trent Williams, they got rid of

937
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: the Honey Badger, but then they got Justin Reid. They're

938
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: always making moves. They trade Tyreek Hill, and it looks

939
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: like they've drafted good players with those picks. I think

940
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 1: the Chris Jones thing is, you know, are they comfortable

941
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: with giving him an enormous amount of money in his

942
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: third contract? And I think it's a legitimate question to ask. Now,

943
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent right. In the short term, intermediate future,

944
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: you got to have Chris Jones if you probably want

945
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: to win a Super Bowl this year. Now, big picture,

946
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: could you entertain trading him because you could probably get

947
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: a one into two. Could you go back to back years?

948
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: Trading Tyreek Hill and Chris Jones seems like pretty risky,

949
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: but it does feel like they're semi equipped. They were

950
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: much more equipped to handle the loss of Tyreek because

951
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: they have Kelsey, the emergence of a Chaco just Mahomes

952
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: in general, they would have no chance to really have

953
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: an answer to what Chris Jones provides them, So I

954
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,840
Speaker 1: don't know, there aren't always right and wrong answers to this.

955
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: This is also a business. Just because Chris Jones wants

956
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars guaranteed doesn't mean the chiefs are

957
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: cool with giving him that right, especially when the other

958
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: guys on the team consistently take less money and they've

959
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: already paid Chris Jones a lot of money. Now I

960
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: get where he's coming from. So these sometimes situations when

961
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: it comes to money can be complicated. Not everything's black

962
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: and white. So I think Mahomes's trust in those guys

963
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: is incredibly high, and I think that's what really separates.

964
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: I would say, kind of your guys operation is that

965
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: everyone your main two players. You've got three main players, right, Mahomes, Kelsey,

966
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, Well two of the three of them. I

967
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: would imagine like Travis Kelsey would say, I love you

968
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: Tandy Reid, like that's their relationship. Like it's it's not

969
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: trust and it's love, it's like it's like a it's

970
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: like a family loyalty. Chris is, you know, operating within

971
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: the best interest of his own business, and we'll see

972
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,840
Speaker 1: how it plays out. Hope all as well. I remember

973
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: you mentioning Metallica on a show a few months ago.

974
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: I think it was about an old the old bassist

975
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: Jason Nustad leaving the band, and was wondering if you

976
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: are a fan, of course, who fucking doesn't like Metallica?

977
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 1: If so, even if you are a casual fan, I absolutely,

978
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: one hundred percent recommend that you see them when they

979
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: roll through Phoenix in September. I saw them at the

980
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: Metal Land for two shows over the weekend, and it

981
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: was absolutely bananas. The crowd was eighty k deep each night,

982
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: and the boys absolutely brought it for two plus hours,

983
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: and they played entirely separate set lists each night, so

984
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: there were no repeats. I know how much you appreciate athletes,

985
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: artists who are masters at their crafts, and these dudes

986
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: have simply never been better. I have nothing but respect

987
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: for any artist, whether it be like Metallica, who's been

988
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: at it for I mean, what decades. This they started

989
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: in the eighties, the nineties, two thousand, twenty tens, I

990
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: mean this is this is like decade four and a

991
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: half here. I mean, they've been going strong for a while.

992
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: They can just consistently bring it, and it's I can't

993
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: even imagine the feeling of seeing Morgan walling and seeing

994
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: forty thousand people look at him that feeling as a singer,

995
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 1: as a band, as an entertainer right on stage. It'll

996
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: probably be the same as a comedian. Has to be

997
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: a high that you know, you hear these players talk

998
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: about it, right, the high of coming out for a game,

999
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: or the high of making a big play in front

1000
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: of whether it's in the you know, college, in front

1001
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 1: of one hundred thousand people, in the NFL, in front

1002
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: of you know, thirty million people watching and sixty thousand

1003
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: people in the stands. You never get that in business.

1004
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: You know, I've been had some success in the podcast business.

1005
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: You make more money. It doesn't actually do anything for you, right,

1006
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you don't want to do that and

1007
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: it can't help your family or whatever, can't buy a house,

1008
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: But it's not like you get highs and lows from that,

1009
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: like you get highs and lows from your craft. Right. Ultimately, Metallica,

1010
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: those these guys have been making millions forever, and most

1011
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: motivational speakers, and you can depend on who you listen too.

1012
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: They can be cheesy or whatever. I would say one

1013
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: theme that the most dead on theme of anyone that

1014
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: talks about just human beings and motivating and success for

1015
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: a living is when you follow your passion, it makes

1016
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: life so much easier. Like ultimately, Metallica is a good example. Right.

1017
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure they have bad days. I'm sure they have

1018
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,399
Speaker 1: days when they're not feeling it, but clearly they love

1019
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 1: what they do, like love playing music. Now they happen

1020
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: to be elite at it, but like you couldn't at

1021
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: their age, which I would imagine a couple of them

1022
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: are close to sixty. Now, you couldn't be jamming for

1023
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: two plus hours and touring because you don't need the

1024
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: money at this point, if you weren't just an addict.

1025
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: And I think about this with football coaches like Andy

1026
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: Reid or Belichick or Saban, like these guys love football

1027
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: more than you can ever imagine. And anyone listening to

1028
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: this who thinks they love football and listen, I would

1029
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: imagine most people listening to this love football. I love football.

1030
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: I've seen it firsthand, the love like coach Reid has

1031
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: for football. I've never been around Belichick, but I know

1032
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: his kind is so much stronger than what the rest

1033
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: of us have, including ninety nine point nine percent of players.

1034
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: It's stupid, and I think it probably speaks for Metallica,

1035
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: it speaks for some of these actors. I just love

1036
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: anyone who takes their craft really, really seriously and can

1037
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: continue doing it forever at a really really high level.

1038
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: I think it's just I'm a sucker for that. And

1039
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: I remember Metallica. Maybe it was a year ago, it

1040
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: might have been two years ago. They played this small,

1041
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: small venue, it might have been less than a thousand

1042
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: people in downtown San Francisco, which obviously is I think,

1043
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of them are from around that area.

1044
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,319
Speaker 1: It's kind of like their home base. And they put

1045
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 1: tickets on sale like five o'clock they were going to

1046
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: play like eight o'clock. Sold out in a minute whatever,

1047
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: and they played for like three hours in front of

1048
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: a thousand people. And I remember some of the clips

1049
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: going viral of that performance, thinking, these guys are just addicts. Man.

1050
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: Music is their crack and their crackheads, and it's just

1051
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: I got I think Tom Brady was like that, Peyton

1052
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: Manning was like that. In athletics, a lot of times right,

1053
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: your your physical attributes go, like Tom's kind of started

1054
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,439
Speaker 1: to go. Not his arm necessarily, but he's probably never

1055
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: been slower. Not that he was ever fast, but he

1056
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: definitely didn't want to get hit. He just he didn't quite.

1057
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: Peyton's arm went, Roethlisberger's arm went, Breeze's arm went. A

1058
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: lot of players, you know, receivers and running backs that

1059
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Speaker 1: aren't fast, you just lose the speed. Reavis lost his speed.

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Speaker 1: He just went in the Hall of Fame. If you're

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Speaker 1: lucky enough and your voice stays right as a as

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Speaker 1: a broadcaster, as an artist, like you can do it

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Speaker 1: for a long long time. I think the Rolling Stone

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Speaker 1: still going, you know, on tour. Obviously they're doing they're

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Speaker 1: making money off of it. I remember years ago because

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Speaker 1: all the big artists used to come through when I

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Speaker 1: worked for the Eagles with the Link and Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 1: I mean this was probably twenty ten or twenty eleven.

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Speaker 1: Don Simolenski, who then was like the assistant president. Now

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Speaker 1: he's the president of the Eagles, been the president for

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Speaker 1: a long time. He used to be an early morning

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Speaker 1: workout guy. I was not. I just I would go.

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Speaker 1: I would show up at the office, I would sleep

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Speaker 1: because you would work so late, basically sleep in. He

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Speaker 1: usually had to be at the work like six thirty seven.

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Speaker 1: I would just get out of bed. I would drive

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Speaker 1: right to the office and I would shower and change

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Speaker 1: there because you had a locker or whatever. And he

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Speaker 1: would always be changing after his early morning workout. I

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Speaker 1: mean he was leaving work a lot earlier than the scouts.

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Speaker 1: But I would always pick his brain about the business

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Speaker 1: element of the concerts, and he would I remember telling

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Speaker 1: me after a Taylor Swift concert, they like cut her

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Speaker 1: a check. I think it was like two or three

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Speaker 1: million dollars. And again, this is over a decade ago.

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Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what she's getting now. But the

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Speaker 1: business behind the amount of money you make on touring

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Speaker 1: when you get to Metallica, Taylor Swift. I saw with

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Speaker 1: Morgan Wallan what he's about, Garth Brooks Forever, whoever, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, all the big artists is stupid. It's really

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Speaker 1: where you print your cash. But I also was thinking

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Speaker 1: this when I was at Morgan walland like, there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of people involved in a tour, right, You're

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Speaker 1: touring with several people, they all have bands, so everyone

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Speaker 1: needs to get paid. You got people putting up the stuff,

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Speaker 1: taking it down. You have all your managers and agents.

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Speaker 1: There's just a lot of moving parts. It is not easy.

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Speaker 1: I remember thinking the second night, because I went back

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Speaker 1: to back nights, thinking this is a big operation. It's

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Speaker 1: clearly a lucrative operation. But it's it's fascinating to watch

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Speaker 1: all the people. But I also watched obviously the headliner

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Speaker 1: is the guy making the most, but his bands obviously

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Speaker 1: got to get paid. All of his opening acts they

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Speaker 1: got to get paid as well as their bands have

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Speaker 1: to get paid. And then their agents and managers and

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Speaker 1: everyone that presents them have their hand in the cookie jar.

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Speaker 1: I just think when you got a tour, especially a

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Speaker 1: relatively big tour with there are a lot of people

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Speaker 1: on the tour, He's got a lot of hands in

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Speaker 1: the cookie jar. Now, the bigger the tour is, the

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Speaker 1: more cookies in that cookie jar. You've got a lot

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Speaker 1: of people reaching in there. I think it's pretty fascinating.

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Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated by the music industry. I think

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Speaker 1: we'll end on that. We'll just keep it rolling. Have

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Speaker 1: another podcast tomorrow. Audios. The volume