1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Hi guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spin off show 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Popping Off, where we are digging deep on this season 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: of Banner Pump Rules. Hi guys, welcome to another episode 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: of Popping Off with myself Teddy Mellencamp. Emily Simpson has 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,959 Speaker 1: severe fomo right now because she is on vacation with 7 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: her family and one of our favorite douche lords to 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: speak about is with us in studio right now. We've 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: got Jesse Lally and he's actually trying to pick a 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: fight with me already. 11 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: I know. Well, you went way down into like the 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: hidden requests, sliding into the DMA, and then I follow 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: you and you don't follow me back. 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not going to follow you back until I 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: see if you do a good interview. 16 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: Oh okay, because here's this thing. You tagged me twice 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: today on stories and I had to repost them. 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 3: Well you didn't have to repost them. 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: I mean I thought I would that we could have 20 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: thought about that if I didn't. 21 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: So, oh, I never am going to make you repost. 22 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm actually just how many fallo or did you get 23 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: from me? Tagging you today. 24 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: I haven't checked. I asked my social media manager over 25 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: there if he can, Ben, how are we doing? Tim? 26 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: But it's okay, is it Tim? Yeah? 27 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: Shit on the message. 28 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: No, that's my manager. It's okay. You're catching up. It's okay, 29 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: it's your first time. 30 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 3: I guess you know what I didn't. You know, I don't. 31 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: I don't book the interviews. But I'm happy that you're here. 32 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 2: I thought you did because you slid into my d 33 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: MS and said you wanted me on here. 34 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: I hate to be the bear of bad news. It 35 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: was actually Matt, that's. 36 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 2: Amazing. So that's my stocker. 37 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: Then that's really into you. 38 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: He he found your trim spall photos and was like, 39 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: look how hot Jesse was. 40 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: I don't know how you found that like test shoot 41 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: picture that you posted that. 42 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: Wasn't the test shoot photo because you had a middle 43 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: name you used to use, so it was a little tricky. 44 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: Finding that one. 45 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: I didn't used to use it. It's my actual middle 46 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: name that's on my IDs. 47 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: Oh so what is it? Jesse? 48 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: Eric? And see close close? 49 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so before we get into anything about the valley, 50 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: you were in a trim spa ad. 51 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 2: I was Yeah. 52 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: Did you hook up with her. 53 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 2: For a year or two? Yeah? 54 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: What? 55 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 56 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: Hold on, did we know this? 57 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean the other one, you and 58 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 2: matter Stocking me you should know. 59 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: Oh my, this is amazing. Okay, for a year or two. 60 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: When you say hooking up, does that. 61 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: Mean I would come to LA and she'd be in 62 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: New York every once in a while. But the story 63 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: was interesting. We were shooting in Miami. 64 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 3: What year it was this two thousand and two maybe two? 65 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: Is this before the Anna Nicole Show? 66 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: It was after? It was when she lost all the 67 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 2: way for trimp She was doing trim Spa and lost 68 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: all the weight and it was a pretty It was 69 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: a pretty big campaign. 70 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 3: So she was already making bad decisions. You've been one 71 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: of them. 72 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean I might have been the 73 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 2: light sort of guiding her. 74 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 3: Were you during Howard Stern? Wasn't that the lawyer's name? 75 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? I met Howard there where. I flew to Miami 76 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: to do the shoot and the first time I met her. 77 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 2: The first layout was an old James Dean Marilyn Monroe 78 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: photo where Marilyn's naked on a mattress and James Dean 79 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 2: has like jeans and no shirt on in front of her, 80 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: and I literally walked over with no shirt on, sat down. 81 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: She's like, oh, I'm in a nicole and I'm like, 82 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: nice to meet you. And then then we moved out 83 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 2: to the beach and I grabbed her and I pulled 84 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 2: her down into the water and we were shooting with 85 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: Antoine Veraglass, famous fashion photographer, and everybody was so pissed 86 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 2: because she was you know, her hair was wet, or eyelashes, 87 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: all that stuff, and it ended up being what they 88 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: ended up using. 89 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: So you are pretty much the reason behind how great 90 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: those trim sauce photos. 91 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I had a little bit to do with it, 92 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: but yeah, and now we're walking back. It's freezing cold 93 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: in Miami at nighttime, and we're walking back to the 94 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: set and she's like, oh my god, we're all like 95 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: wrapped in towels and she's like, oh my god, I 96 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: hope I don't get sick. And I'm like, I have 97 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: a ton of supplements and vitamins and stuff in my room. 98 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: And I was literally in my room that night. 99 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: If that's a line that's your go to, you know what, 100 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: I have a ton of supplements about. 101 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: I wish I was still taking them because at this 102 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: point I'm just aging rapidly and going gray as as 103 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: quick as possible. But yeah, she called me that I 104 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: was having a bottle of wine in the room and 105 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I can come up to the room. 106 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: And it was funny. We did a couple's massage and 107 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 2: she was like, before the two massage therapists showed up, 108 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: she was like, let's let's kind of with them a 109 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: little bit. So we were like going back and forth, 110 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: making jokes, talking like you know, trying to see if 111 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: something would come out. And this is way before social media, 112 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: and it was just fun. We just had that like relationship. 113 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: We were just kind of like two little kids messing 114 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: with each other. 115 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: Well, this is a juicy nugget that I wasn't ready 116 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: to get, but I appreciate it. 117 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: I loved Anna Nicole, loved the Antonicole show. 118 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: I was so sweet. She actually that night, or the 119 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: massage night, we took a ton of like behind the 120 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 2: scenes photos and she had her I don't I don't 121 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 2: have them. She had her assistant go through, but I 122 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,559 Speaker 2: will tell you one of the photos that we took, 123 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: my brother had just come back from Iraq or he 124 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: was coming back in the next week his first tour 125 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: in Iraq, and she had her assistant go in the 126 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: morning and print out a huge picture of the two 127 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: of us and she signed it for my brother like 128 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: welcome home. 129 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: Oh that's nice. Yeah, well this is this is a 130 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: good story. 131 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: But this also tells me that both you and Michelle 132 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: have a history of taking pictures for celebrities. 133 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: I think that was actually the first and only celebrity 134 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: I have a photo with. 135 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: Well, is it a common practice in real estate to 136 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: send photos of yourself? 137 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: No, you know, you guys made that seem like that's 138 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:37,559 Speaker 3: the norm. 139 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: And I got to tell you if my husband was 140 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: going through my phone and I was sending photos of myself. 141 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: To anyone, right, I know. I listened to you. I 142 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: listened to the last podcast where we talked about you 143 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 2: guys talked about sending photos and being part of real estate. No, 144 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 2: it's not part of real estate. What I was saying 145 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: was texting with guys is part of the business. But 146 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: this sexy photo thing. At the time, I was like, 147 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: this can't be true. Like I you know, I hadn't 148 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 2: heard anything like that. So but you know, as you 149 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: went on, and as the summer went on, it was like, Okay, 150 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: another story that I have to you know, get behind 151 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: Michelle and another fight I have to be And I 152 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: was like got to the point where I was just 153 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 2: a little tired of like this round about gossip because 154 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: it's not really my style. It's like, Okay, if I 155 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: have a problem with somebody, I go straight to the source, 156 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 2: and it's like, okay, well let's get Jack's up there, 157 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: Let's get Janet up there, and let's have a conversation. 158 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: Were you blindsided in that moment? Are you already had 159 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: an idea what was happening? 160 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: No, you know, blindsided by what it actually happening, or 161 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 2: blinds or the fact. 162 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: That there was these text messages, the fact that you 163 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: were further into almost separating than you thought or was 164 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: in my guess watching the show, I felt like you 165 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: guys were already in a place that you were not 166 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 1: going to make it when the first show first started. 167 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this in a judgment away the 168 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: worst part I was ever in my marriage was my 169 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: first season on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. 170 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: That was our hardest time. 171 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: We worked through it, but that was our hardest time, 172 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: and I just remember that feeling of like that tension 173 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: where it didn't feel authentic or natural being together because 174 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: we both wanted to the other one to come off 175 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: a certain way. 176 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: So we had just in March moved into the new. 177 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 3: House, the one that's the Chateau Marmont. 178 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we had just moved into that house, and yeah, 179 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: we still have our issues. But I didn't think until 180 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: I watched the show. I was like, Wow, it was 181 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: really that bad. Like I did not see it at all. 182 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: We had kind of swept everything under the rug. And 183 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 2: then you know the reason why it feels very authentic 184 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: is I didn't know I could say no to anything. 185 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: So I had mentioned to Michelle. I got introduced to 186 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: Scott the life coach, and I had mentioned it to Michelle. 187 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: Michelle mentioned it Brittany, and then all of a sudden, 188 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: Jackson and I are by the pool and he's like, oh, 189 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: you're doing therapy. And then I get a call, Hey, 190 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: do you guys want to do you know, a session 191 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 2: on Cameron. I'm like, I haven't talked to the guy yet, 192 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 2: and so we just did our first that was our 193 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: first session. We had one call with him. Before and 194 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: then that was our first session. 195 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 3: Did you ever have a second session? 196 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: We did? I still work with him today, you do, Yeah, 197 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 2: But it was there was a lot of dust under 198 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: the rug and the show and and you know, working 199 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: with Scott just kind of brought all that up. And 200 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: when I watched it back and I see scenes, you know, 201 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: with Brittany and Michelle and Big Bear and her saying 202 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 2: that she like wasn't attracted to me anymore, I didn't 203 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: see it. Like I didn't. I didn't feel it, and 204 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: I was I actually felt a little blindside in October 205 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: when she said she was leaving. 206 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: Right so around the same time as the Jackson Britney thing. 207 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I run the same Okay, Yeah, so yeah, it was, 208 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: it was and I still fought. And then what a 209 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 2: lot of people don't know is, you know, we knew, 210 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: we knew sort of the arc of what had happened 211 00:08:55,600 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: all summer, and we were afraid, Like I didn't tell anybody. 212 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: Michelle lived in the house until February fifteenth, so we 213 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: were separated what six months, five six months, and we 214 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: were still living together. And you know, I think when 215 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: you have a situation where you separate, I think it's 216 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: important to get that space. And we were I mean, 217 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: I think she slept in my bed for the first 218 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 2: week or two after we separated, and you know, I 219 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: wasn't going out. She started to go out more and 220 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: more and I would wait up until, you know, one, two, 221 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: three in the morning until she got home, and it 222 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: just it was very it's very difficult, it's very toxic, 223 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: and you know it was I was still fighting, and 224 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: I think one of the reasons, you know, looking back 225 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 2: on it, one of the reasons why I was like, no, 226 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: we can't, you know, we can't tell anybody, we can't 227 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: move out, is because I was still fighting. And then finally, 228 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: you know, I'll never forget New Year's Eve. I was 229 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: at Jack's bar and he's like, I got to talk 230 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 2: to you about something. And the next morning I called 231 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: him and I'm like, what did you need to talk to 232 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: me about? And he brought up Michelle's boyfriend. And that's 233 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: when I was just like, enough is enough, Like for 234 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: mental health, I can't deal with this anymore. I call 235 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: them back and I go listen, for the sake of 236 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: your show, here's my situation. We've kept this a secret 237 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 2: now for you know, four months, Like when I was 238 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 2: crying in your backyard at Thanksgiving. It wasn't because I 239 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: was drunk. It's because I was, like, you know, losing it. 240 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: And then finally January first is when we told everybody. 241 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: So I have a question. 242 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: I when I look back at any friends that I've had, 243 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: or any relationships that I've seen that have fully gone south, 244 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: or you see a woman that gets to the point 245 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: where they really look like they're done most of the time, 246 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: and you can correct me if I'm wrong, it's because 247 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: they have been wronged right by their significant other. Is 248 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: there something that you have done prior to the show 249 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: that got her to that place in your opinion, if 250 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: you're going to take account of belly. 251 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 2: No, there was nothing, you know it was It was 252 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: April twenty twenty when we had Isabella. I mean we 253 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 2: had you know, indoor flip flops and outdoor flip flops 254 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: because of COVID, you know what the hell was going on. 255 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: And that first like six or eight months, I mean 256 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: we had no help. We had no grandma or grandpa, 257 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: we had nobody was coming to visit. You know, I thought, 258 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: I have a kid, and all of a sudden, people 259 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 2: are supposed to bring you like casse roles or whatever, 260 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: and it doesn't happen. 261 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: It can be very lonely and you feel like you're 262 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: supposed to have all the answers and sometimes you don't. 263 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'll tell you like I spent you know, 264 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: six months with Michelle and the baby, and then eventually 265 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: things opened up and it was like, Okay, I have 266 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: to go to like she can't go out with the 267 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 2: baby and she's breastfeeding. We don't know what's going on. 268 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: So I'm going shopping and you know, I'm going to 269 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 2: the office and I'm doing all these things. And you know, 270 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 2: I started doing my Friday lunches again. And I think 271 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 2: she with no help and no soor like I wasn't 272 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 2: really being of service to the family. I was kind 273 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: of be a being of service to work in business 274 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. 275 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: Could you say I was being selfish? 276 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if I was being selfish, because you know, 277 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: it's hard to hear things where she goes with the 278 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 2: girls and says, oh, well, Jesse didn't do anything for 279 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: two years, and my mother's like, I have the videos 280 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 2: and the photos. You were with her the entire time. 281 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 2: So I don't know if it was a Michelle thing 282 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: or if it was just like it was. It was 283 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 2: tough back then, you know, and we don't have family nearby, 284 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 2: so it's like, you know, I think it was more 285 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: it wasn't selfishness. It was more, you know, I abandoned 286 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: them in certain certain times when they needed me. 287 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: You maybe weren't as vulnerable then until you realized that 288 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: things were going south. 289 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, I know people have heard this, 290 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: but she did try to leave in October of twenty 291 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: twenty two, and we had a whole conversation about it. 292 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: And that's why I thought things were getting better, because 293 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: you know, we moved into the house in March of 294 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 2: twenty three. 295 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 3: What made her come back? 296 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: You know, she just gave me a couple of things 297 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: that bothered her and I said I would work on it. 298 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: You know. One of those things is you know, being 299 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: present and stuff like that at home. And you know, 300 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: I've said this in multiple interviews. The hardest thing and 301 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 2: I this is the advice I give to every parent. 302 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 2: Have the conversation about how you're gonna parent before you 303 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: have a child. Because I was like East Coast, impatient, aggressive, 304 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 2: like I didn't realize you're not supposed to yell at 305 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: a one and a half year old, like, don't do that. 306 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: It's just part of the process. And then Michelle was 307 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: on the opposite end of the spectrum. She was very 308 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: passive and like, you know, she her parenting was like 309 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: what she read on Instagram from psychiatrists, you know. And 310 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: we worked with a behavioral therapist for Isabella to try 311 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 2: to get us somewhere in the middle. So it was like, 312 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: you know, being a little bit more patient, being a 313 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: little bit more present, you know, things like that is 314 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: sort of what she wanted me to work on, and 315 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 2: she said she would stay if I did well. 316 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: Because I kind of I watched the finale and the 317 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: juxtaposition between the way that you spoke with Michelle and 318 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: then the way that we saw Jackson Britney speak. 319 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: Kind of for the. 320 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: You know, I kind of aligned you two together, you 321 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: and Jackson. I was like, you know what, they're they're 322 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: the problem. Here we are. 323 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: And then in that moment, number. 324 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,479 Speaker 2: One and number two guy in the group. 325 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: Is that definitely you're gonna need a sweatshirt. 326 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: But I think as watching this, I saw a kindness 327 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: and a softness when it came to you speaking to Michelle, 328 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: and I saw the complete opposite with Jack's, like, you 329 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: see almost like there was anger, and it looked to 330 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: me like you were being you were opening up, and 331 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: you were okay with the show capturing what was actually 332 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: happening in your life and what was happening Jackson Brittany 333 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: was he wanted to keep pretending. Yeah, would you say 334 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: that that's an accurate prossessment? 335 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: You know it's thank you. By the way, it's amazing. 336 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: I thought we were just going to talk shit about people, 337 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: but apparently we're getting heart to heart. So that's super sweet. 338 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 2: We should remove these pillows and. 339 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 3: Get closer to calm down. No. 340 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting because you see me say to 341 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: Jacks multiple times, like on the boat in Big Bear, 342 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: I said, I'm probably the best person to talk to 343 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 2: about this, and everybody kind of made it a joke, 344 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 2: like why would we talk to you your marriage is? 345 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: Your marriage is terrible? And you know that's the exact 346 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: reason why I said that. And since then, you know, 347 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: Jax has reached out quite a bit for advice, and 348 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: I know exactly sort of what he was going through, 349 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 2: especially in that moment when cameras came back up, like 350 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: having somebody leave you, because that's what happened to me. 351 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 2: She left me. That's why she got a new place 352 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: and she got new furniture. 353 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: But still, even if I have to say, even if 354 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: I were to leave Edwin, I don't know that he 355 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: would me in a situation. And granted I may we 356 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: have completely separate finances. I do well on my own, 357 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean he does better than me, but like we 358 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: both are financially stable and do well. 359 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: Honored. You guys need to buy a new house or 360 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: I mean, we will if I end up with Austin Butler, 361 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: like I talked to out on my last spot. No, 362 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 3: but uh, I don't know how I feel about a 363 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 3: man allowing a woman to leave with their child and 364 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: kind of finn. 365 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: For themselves their situation. I don't you know, that's that's 366 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: their personal situation to deal with. How that conversation went, 367 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 2: I can only tell you my conversation with Michelle Again, 368 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: like I said, I was still fighting, you know, even 369 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: though she was going out, and even though the rumors, 370 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: you know, once we separated and once a few people 371 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: started to know about it, then it was like, you know, 372 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: more rumors and more rumors and more gossip, and I 373 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: just said to her, you're the one that's leaving, like 374 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: I want to keep the house. I mean the process 375 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: of buying the house. I was like, if you want 376 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: to leave, then go. And we had that same conversation 377 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: that we're having now, like you should, you should move out, 378 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, I'm not leaving, like I'm going 379 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: to keep. You know, there was one conversation where we 380 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: were both going to get rid of the house and 381 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: both get separate places, but I wanted some stability for Isabella. 382 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: It was so hard for her. We had to literally, 383 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: about two weeks after we moved out, we had and 384 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 2: we talked to our behavioral therapist. We had to go 385 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: back to our old townhouse so she could say goodbye, 386 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: because every day it was like I missed the old house. 387 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: I missed the old house, and I didn't want to 388 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 2: go through that again with her. 389 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 3: Why did you guys have to have the breakup conversation 390 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: with Isabella in the kitchen. 391 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: I think it was it was a very last minute, 392 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 2: you know. I didn't want I really didn't want to 393 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 2: have Michelle back at the house, and I really fought 394 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 2: it and fought it and fought it, and I forget 395 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 2: what the situation was. 396 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 3: Where because they they could. 397 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: I get that sometimes there's filming and your kids are 398 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: there and you got to just go with the But 399 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: there was that edit where you guys are talking and 400 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: they panned to her and I think she wants barbecue sauce, 401 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: and it's to make it very clear that you guys 402 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: are doing it with her there, and that's to like 403 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: pull it. And I hate to bring kids into it, 404 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: but that's it was meant to pull it as. 405 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know. The saddest part was, like I said, 406 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: you know, those six months of just toxic energy in 407 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: the house, and you know, Isabella got to the point 408 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 2: where me and Michelle could be talking about like what 409 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 2: time I'm playing golf tomorrow and she would come in 410 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: and say, guys, stop fighting. We're like, we're not fighting, 411 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: We're not. But it was just, you know, it just 412 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: got to the point where I was like, not in 413 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 2: front of the baby. Not in front of the baby. 414 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 2: And you know that particular moment we there were specific 415 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: things we want to talk about that was supposed to 416 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: be calm, but you can see like we just have 417 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 2: this like there's just this like anger with Michelle. 418 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 3: And there still is, apparently because she was on Janna 419 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 3: Kramer's podcast this morning. I don't know when it's gonna air, 420 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 3: but I wasn't allowed to have you guys both on separately, 421 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 3: so we chose you enough security for that. 422 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 4: Well. 423 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: I think if she listens to the pod, she'd probably 424 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: be annoyed at me because I call her AI. 425 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 3: But I do really like her. 426 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: I just think that sometimes it's when filming, but she says, 427 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: Michelle says, you guys are co parenting the best they can, 428 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: but you guys still fight all the all the time 429 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: because you have such different parenting styles. She's met your 430 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: girlfriend once at Isabella's fourth birthday. You invited her over 431 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: to do the cake, and she is still adamant. She 432 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 1: did not send any sexy photos. Is all of this accurate? 433 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 2: Yes, we are still fighting. We're still trying to figure 434 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 2: it out. I mean it's still like, I mean, it's difficult, 435 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: you know, it's I there was there was one conversation 436 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 2: that we had where we were I was talking about 437 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: trying to get us back to the middle, and I 438 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: think it was the scene out when I was out 439 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,360 Speaker 2: back and I was crying, you know, in the. 440 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: Final after the ayahuasca. 441 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: No, no, no, this. 442 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: That was a rough go with cap. 443 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: You know, I lost that damn Vinie at Chateau and 444 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 2: it's not in the Lost and Found. I checked everywhere. 445 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: Maybe it's in Michael Bay's room. 446 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: I can confirm it was not Michael Bay. Fine, I 447 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 2: actually don't think it was a celebrity. And if you 448 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 2: watch her say it was a celebrity, it feels very 449 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: like it was. 450 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 1: Everything feels very I'm sorry. There's the only time. And 451 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: this is where I hope, now that I know that 452 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: you guys are all coming back for next season, I 453 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: hope that we see the Michelle that got upset at 454 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: that dinner table and showed who she really was and 455 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: that gumption because whenever you see somebody self producing, and 456 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: I've done it myself, but like seeing that, like trying 457 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: to come off a certain way, it comes off robotic. 458 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: But in that moment, you felt the fire, you felt 459 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: the life. And yeah, I mean she was fighting for 460 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, her marriage at that point, so she had 461 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 1: a reason to get upset. 462 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you though, I was very proud of her 463 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 2: because we had uh just about six or eight months 464 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: before cameras went up, we had done a YouTube video 465 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: with Ryan Surhan for a fifty eight million dollar listing 466 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 2: that we had, and she was very uncomfortable. She's like, 467 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: I'll introduce the property address and I'll say the price, 468 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: but you give the tour because she just had never 469 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 2: been in front of the camera before, so she didn't 470 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: get it. And even from day one, I mean we 471 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: started a little earlier because we were supposed to go 472 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: to Europe for a month. 473 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Kim, before we even get into that, can 474 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: you tell us how you got how the valley really started? 475 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 3: Like is you called it Jacks's show earlier? So I 476 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 3: saw a picture or video of you at Jackson Brittany's wedding. 477 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: I know that you guys modeled together back in the day. Whatever. 478 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: I just found the picture of you and Anna Nicole 479 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 3: by the way, so I've got well, your tongue is 480 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 3: stabbing at her mouth. 481 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 2: Like this tongue ring. 482 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh no, I didn't notice that it was a 483 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 3: tongue ring. Actually I'm in a bad way now, but okay, 484 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: all right, so you with your tongue ring, but wasn't 485 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 3: ready for that one you meet Jack's you hang out 486 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 3: your friends, are you? Are you friends with Janet? 487 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: Are you? 488 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: Who's really coming into this group knowing each other? 489 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: So Jackson and I met. We had the same agent 490 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: in New York. He needed a place to stay, so 491 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 2: you had me and my friend from from my hometown 492 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: was also a model with like two matching pottery barn 493 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 2: beds in the one bedroom, fifth floor walk up. Jack 494 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: slept in the living room. And yeah, since two thousand 495 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: and two, two thousand and three, and we reconnected probably god, 496 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 2: I think like a couple of months before my wedding 497 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen, you know, he went to Miami, I 498 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: bounced around, I went to La and we reconnected. I 499 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: invited Jackson Brittany last minute to our wedding. They didn't go. 500 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: I think they were shooting. And after that it was like, 501 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 2: you know, became friends with Tom Schwartz and and you 502 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 2: know Tom, and did you ever. 503 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 3: Film on vander Pumper Rules? Even if you weren't shown? 504 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 2: Were you ever the first one I did? I don't 505 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: know if you remember. It was like a seventies party 506 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 2: at a roller skating rink. Yeah, yeah, me and Michelle 507 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: and I went to that. I think it was the 508 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 2: first time Jackson met Michelle and I've been to a 509 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: butt that whole year of twenty eighteen. I was any 510 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: cast event. Michelle and I were there. 511 00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Jax gets the boot, he's off banner pump rules, 512 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,719 Speaker 4: the idea of the valley starts to come around are 513 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 4: the first. 514 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: He started playing on my roller hockey team. 515 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: Roller hockey. Okay, hot hockey, but on roller blades. 516 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: Rollerblades, that's so hot. Yeah, did you not watch the show? 517 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 3: I've blocked it out. 518 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've locked it out. 519 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 3: Hold on, what's what's I always call him Janet's husband? 520 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 3: What's his name? 521 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: Jason? 522 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 3: Jason? 523 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: Poor Jason. 524 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 3: Jason is not great at that sport. 525 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 2: No, he's not. 526 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 3: Okay. 527 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 2: I think Jax tried to block it out too because 528 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: it was not great. 529 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 3: Okay, so roller what do we call it again? 530 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: Roller hockey? Yeah, Jackson and his manager, Ryan is a 531 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 2: producer in the show. They reached out to me and 532 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 2: they asked if Michelle and I would be interested in 533 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: doing something. It sort of evolved from what it was 534 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 2: originally gonna be. And I said yeah, And I said, oh, 535 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: this is a great opportunity. Like we sell real estate, 536 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: we spend thousands of dollars on these stupid flyers that 537 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: we send out and then like your nanny throws it 538 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: in the trash before you ever see it. I'm like, 539 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 2: this is gonna be an opportunity. We can be like 540 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 2: the luxury real estate, you know, high end wine drinking, 541 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: high end travel. Like we're gonna be spending three weeks 542 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 2: in Europe or four week, four weeks in Europe, but 543 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: three weeks of shooting can send back videos. 544 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: Three weeks of shooting, I'm so sure. 545 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 2: So I was like, it's gonna be great. And uh yeah, 546 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: that box blew up in about two minutes in front 547 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: of the front of the camera, okay. And then so 548 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 2: that's the story. In terms of friends, I knew all 549 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: of them. Zach was always around, obviously, is. 550 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,360 Speaker 3: Zach When they say the entire cast is coming back, 551 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 3: does that include Zach? 552 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: I don't need. You probably know more than me. I 553 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: don't know when cameras go up except for in the summer. 554 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: Is Zach really upset about these things because of friendship 555 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: or is he just upset for not having camera time 556 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: because that really it's rubbing me the wrong way, is it? 557 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know, you know, you have to answer, like, do. 558 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: You honestly Zach was Zach was just the friend that 559 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: was always around always. 560 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: People love to be that called. 561 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: That he was. He was just no, no, no, I never 562 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,719 Speaker 2: really had like a strong relationship. He was just always 563 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 2: around at every party. But I wouldn't go up and 564 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: be like, hey, how are you? You know what I mean? 565 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 1: I love a friend that's just always It's like he's 566 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: like gum on your shoe. 567 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 3: It's like not the worst thing. I mean, it's better 568 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 3: than dog shit. 569 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: Well, to be. 570 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 2: Honest, though, Zach would walk into Jackson Britt's house and 571 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: be line straight for Brittany and not say hi to 572 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 2: me either. So like we didn't really have a relationship 573 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: other than he was always around. 574 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 3: Okay in hindsight, so as we're I'm going to break 575 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 3: down each person. 576 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: Okay, Kristin, Kristin. 577 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: Now that you've watched the entire sea and do you 578 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: have any regrets when it comes to how hard you 579 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: pushed to have Kristin out. 580 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,239 Speaker 3: Of the group something that really bothers me. I'm just 581 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 3: gonna be honest. You're not You're not the production team, 582 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 3: you're not the casting group. You don't get to choose 583 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 3: who comes and does what because. 584 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 2: I had I was I making that choice? 585 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: Were you said it like if she goes, I'm not going, No, 586 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: never do that, just. 587 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: Go well that's an ultimatum, that's not casting. 588 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: No, but you would have gone, Let's be clear if 589 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: Kristin would have gone to Big Bear. 590 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: So what have you? No? No, no, I'll tell you what. 591 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 2: It comes down to the fact that you know, it 592 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: just bothered me because Kristen was you know, I've said 593 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 2: it before. Kristin and britt were the only two people 594 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: at our baby shower, you know of that group, and 595 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 2: I know Kristin going back to like I remember hanging 596 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: out with Jackson, hanging after I was at sir when 597 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 2: they were counting tips and stuff like that, and she 598 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 2: was always around with the whole group. I mean, I 599 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: go back that far, and it was just disappointing, Like 600 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 2: I don't I have this sort of like Irish Boston 601 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: loyalty to friends and family, where like I'm gonna step 602 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: in front of the bullet and if somebody comes after 603 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: my family, like she came after Michelle whatever Michelle and 604 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: I is really so you. 605 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 3: Think Kristen came after Michelle? It was not Janet. 606 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's hard. 607 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: I think Janet is very smart. I think she's very 608 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: good at what she does. I think she is likable, 609 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: but she see with a smile on her face. And 610 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: on that same note, when you're causing drama and then 611 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: and then using your pregnancy as do you think she 612 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: used her pregnancy as a shield. 613 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: I don't think she used it. I think we're all 614 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 2: super sensitive to it, for sure. 615 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 3: But I suffer Zach. 616 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, I don't even know what that 617 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: situation is because again I don't have that like relationship 618 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: with Zach to be like, oh, what's like, we're not 619 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: going making pot what is it called pottery? 620 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 3: Would you have cried if you didn't get invited to 621 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: Big Bear? 622 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: Would I have cried? 623 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 624 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 2: I mean I have really hard time in the altitude. 625 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 2: I probably would have been fine, you know what I mean. 626 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: I mean I proposed I mean, and. 627 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: Was that Big Bear? Because Tamra said that it was 628 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: not actually Big Bear. 629 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: I mean it was only like forty minutes outside. There 630 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: was a lake across the street. I mean, it wasn't 631 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: the lake lake. And then what I proposed, Napa, I said, 632 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: I could completely set it up. I proposed, you know, 633 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 2: Jesse sort of things. 634 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 3: Okay, Jess, you did bring a suitcase of alcohol, which 635 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 3: I appreciated because there's never you are right when people 636 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: say they have everything, They never have everything. 637 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 5: Okay, so back to Janet that wait, hold on, we 638 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 5: haven't even got through Kristin. 639 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so let me let me close the chapter 640 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 2: on Kristin. Kristin actually reached out to me recently. 641 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: And I'm sweating, but we're both sweating. It's so hot 642 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 3: in here. Every time I'll be in a full sweat. 643 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: And I ran three miles this morning to kind of 644 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: get that like Opus one that I had last night 645 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: out of my system. Also three Scotches. 646 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 3: I love him. We'd name drop Opus one. It's my favorite. 647 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you were stalking me on Instagram, so you 648 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: would know because I posted it. 649 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't follow you, so I see what 650 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 3: you posted. You did not follow him? 651 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: Yes, shot it and posted and tagged Michelle. 652 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: Okay, So, Kristen, do you feel bad? 653 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: I do, because Kristen actually reached out to me the weekend. 654 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: I was at Watch What Happens Live and she sent me. 655 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 3: That you were boring and watch what happens to live. 656 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you, thank you. I appreciate that. Okay, 657 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: I thought it was charming, but sorry, So yeah, she 658 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: reached out to me. She sent me a very sweet message, 659 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 2: and I thanked her for it, and and uh yeah, 660 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 2: I think moving forward, knowing what we all know now, 661 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 2: I think Kristin and I will have a lot better 662 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: relationship for sure. 663 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 3: Because Kristen's needed for the show. I think she is. 664 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't need to see her in the apartment getting pedicures. 665 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: I need to see her at Big Bear right causing shit. 666 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. The thing the problem I had with 667 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 2: Kristin was like after the gallow when we were outside, 668 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: you know, one of the things I kept saying to 669 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: her was I'm sorry, but doesn't it doesn't work, you know. 670 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,959 Speaker 2: And my biggest, my biggest problem was Kristin will do 671 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: this sort of like sort of like love I call 672 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: it like the love bomb, and to get in people's 673 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: good graces and then the gossip and then the victim 674 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 2: and then back to the like the love It's like 675 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: it's like she says something about Michelle and then she 676 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: sends Michelle a text message the next day like I love. 677 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: You because that's that's the nature of somebody who is 678 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: going to create good television. Sometimes they're gonna do shit, 679 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna say it wrong. Like here's my one gripe 680 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: about Kristin, and I've told this to her when she 681 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: delivers them, for it's not always correct. It's like one 682 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: thing off from being accurate information. But I do think 683 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: she's constantly moving storyline. She's doing what she needs to do, 684 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: and I enjoy watching her. 685 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 3: So I had an aversion to all of you deciding 686 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 3: to push her out. 687 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, but would you have enjoyed would you have enjoyed 688 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: the season as much? If there wasn't the me Kristen 689 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 2: Michelle storyline? Every week it was a different thing. You know, 690 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: it was the racist Republican thing, and then it was that. 691 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: Party didn't like that, party didn't like it all. But 692 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: you think Janet's hands are completely clean in that. 693 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 2: I don't know any of it. All I know is 694 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 2: that I got home that night and Michelle was like, 695 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: You'll never believe what happened, Like, where does that even 696 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: come from? 697 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 3: So alcoholic beverages? 698 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I you know, I don't know it. But 699 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,239 Speaker 2: then it was like, okay, let's double down. You know 700 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: that that got cleared up, and everybody's screen at the 701 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 2: table at my dinner, and you know, Kristen's saying it 702 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: was Zach and Janet's saying it was and back and 703 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: forth and back and forth. Whoever's to blame. I mean, 704 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 2: it is what it is. But it's the carrying on 705 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 2: the story that's the problem, you know. Like I said, 706 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: I go right to the source if there's an issue. 707 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 3: But you're skirting around my questions about Janet. 708 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 2: Okay, do I think Janet was involved? Yes? I don't 709 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: actually know. Even watching it back, I I don't know. 710 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: I don't. I didn't. 711 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: She had pink crocs there videoing at the T shirt 712 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: thing like, and then Jack's coming in to tell them 713 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: they weren't invite it. 714 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 3: Like, if you're going to do shit, then you got 715 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 3: to go in and do it yourself. 716 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah I would. I would love to, you know, I 717 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: never got that opportunity to sit down with Janet. I 718 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: don't think one time and actually have a conversation with 719 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 2: her like what was actually going on. But she's strategic 720 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: and she knows what she's doing. 721 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 3: That's what I would appreciate you doing for next year. 722 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: I have a couple people like I think. I think 723 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 2: next season it'll be great, you know, sort of to 724 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 2: see the arc of where I talked to Jack's on 725 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 2: the boat, and I talked to Jack's at my wine lunch, 726 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 2: and then see where we're at now, you know what 727 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: I mean. I'd like to spend a lot of time 728 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 2: with Jackson next. 729 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 3: What's going on with Jackson? 730 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: That like Instagram girl with the ginormous boobs that like, 731 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: is this a true story? That she sent the limo 732 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: and they went to the thing but then the dad 733 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: paid for it? 734 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 3: Is any of this true? 735 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,799 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't get involved in like, like 736 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: I actually met the dad. Jackson and I. 737 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: Played in a Okay, so there is a dad. 738 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: I know the dad. Yeah, we played in a like 739 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 2: celebrity charity golf tournament and we met the dad. I've 740 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: never met her. I don't know her at all. I 741 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: don't know how the whole thing happened. And you know, 742 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 2: but it is I don't know any of the story 743 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 2: because I stay out of like all of it. 744 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 3: You don't seem like the person that stays out. 745 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 2: Of all of them. You know what, I'll tell you 746 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 2: how much I stay out of it. Last time I 747 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: read a comment it was a decision that I made 748 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 2: Wednesday night before the press premiere. Was the last time 749 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 2: I went on read it. Read an Instagram comment. 750 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 3: You read Matt's DM three weeks ago. 751 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: I know the DMS. I the DMS I read. I'll 752 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 2: tell you why, because there's a lot of people, uh, 753 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 2: you know, I don't respond to the like, hey you're hot, 754 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: Hey this, hey that. If you. 755 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 3: I don't respond and like you're the hot now. 756 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if people are inappropriate, I don't respond, 757 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 2: But I love the people that are, like I wanted 758 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: to get in real I want to get in real estate. 759 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 2: What's your advice? Or a lot of people are you know, 760 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 2: I think my wife and I are in the same situation. 761 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 2: What what is your advice? And then you know people 762 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 2: that reach out and they just say cool things. They 763 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 2: want to talk about hockey, they want to talk about 764 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 2: roller hockey. You mean, yeah, hockey, roller hockey, ones on ice, 765 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: ones on you know, like paved or smooth concrete. I'll 766 00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: take you out skating. 767 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: Can we get into Jackson Brittany a little bit more? Okay, 768 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: was there ever a moment that you watched your number 769 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,919 Speaker 1: one friend in the group maybe push it too far 770 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: when it came to Brittany, like he's constantly chugging booze, 771 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 1: parting it up. But yet even in Big Bear, like 772 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 1: the day that she's sick, he's kind of going after 773 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: her doing all. It really kind of made me feel 774 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: uncomfortable to watch. 775 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I was washing dishes and said to him, like, 776 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: it wasn't really the moment, you know, it's a very 777 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: personal thing. And again, I was going through struggles. It 778 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 2: was like we were on a they were on like 779 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 2: an eight month lag between where you know, where they 780 00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 2: are and where Michelle and I were, And it's just 781 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 2: not when you're going through that, it's not a public form, 782 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 2: you know. And I don't know if he was going 783 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: through it and he wanted, you know, he reacted that 784 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 2: way to Brittany to get support from the rest of 785 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 2: the group, you know, so they could see what was happening, 786 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden everybody would jump onto 787 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 2: Jack's team. But I did say to him, it's not 788 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 2: appropriate for a. 789 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 3: Public well, even if people are on Jacks's team at 790 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 3: Big Bear, I would just watch the finale when she's 791 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 3: packing and there in their house. He's standing beside and 792 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 3: watching him gaslight her. 793 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: That's a new word that I just recently learned. 794 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 3: It's actually it's been overused. 795 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know, still don't know what it means. 796 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 2: Apparently I'm a big gas lighter. 797 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 3: You are, but it's fine. Actually you're not as big 798 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 3: as him. 799 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: But he where he just constantly anytime she said anything, 800 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 1: like he said I'm booking therapy, She's like, when did 801 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: you book therapy? He's like yesterday. She's like, okay, that's 802 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: the day before cameras picked up. Like everything had a 803 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: means for fame, for for the show, and nothing really 804 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: seemed to be about the relationship. Do you think there's 805 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: a chance that those two can end up back together? 806 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 2: You know? 807 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,280 Speaker 3: And did he hook up with Lauri K Productions? 808 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 2: As you know, man, you're just firing them off. It's like, 809 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 2: just you just give me the sheet. I'll read off 810 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: my answers. 811 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 3: Here. 812 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, the wine is lukewarm. 813 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 3: This is where enjoyment goes to die. It's like we 814 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 3: are just roughing it out here. We're in the trenches. 815 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 2: Answer the question which one Laurie, Okay, we don't care 816 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,439 Speaker 2: about anything else. I can't imagine that's true. I've met 817 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 2: her a thousand times and they all of them. 818 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 3: Then why did Brettan follow her? 819 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 2: I have no, I don't know these unfollow like follow on. 820 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 3: You know that I wasn't following you. 821 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 2: So you seem well, yeah, because I followed you last 822 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 2: night when I listened to eight hundred podcasts, which I like. 823 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 2: I'm like listening to podcast trying to do my research, 824 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 2: writing my outline. Gotten a ship, by the way. 825 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 3: Where is it? I don't you don't seem to be 826 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 3: using it. 827 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't I burn it. 828 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 3: Ah, Okay, so. 829 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,919 Speaker 2: Laurie, I don't. I don't think that's possibly true. 830 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: But do you think he's treated No, Well, now I 831 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 1: can't like you because now I think you're a liar. 832 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 2: I'm not a liar. Look at my face. I'm not 833 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 2: lying to you. 834 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,799 Speaker 1: This is gaslighting. This is actually the definition of gaslighting. 835 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:54,240 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. I've I've there has been a monster 836 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 2: change in Jack since he had his son, and I 837 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 2: think I think it had a lot to do with 838 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:04,800 Speaker 2: him losing his I think that whole time frame changed 839 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 2: his like mentality. And I mean I would know of 840 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 2: anybody in the group, I would know, and I one, No, 841 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 2: he was not cheating. Okay, so he did the exact 842 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 2: same thing I did. You know? Communication was lost? You 843 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 2: know I used to sit like Michelle used to say, 844 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,359 Speaker 2: I'm not an affectionate person, and you know, now I'm 845 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 2: with somebody and I seem to be overly affected. 846 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 3: Nicole tell me about her. He hates when I switch gears. 847 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 3: But yes, I am. 848 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I should never have said that. No, she's amazing. 849 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 3: Is she coming with us tonight to Jackxon's. 850 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 2: She is coming tonight? Yeah, Okay, I love I love 851 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,879 Speaker 2: that us are going. 852 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going. What about is Michelle? What about Michelle's boyfriend? 853 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: Is he going with us? 854 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if Michelle or the boyfriend 855 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 2: are going. If you want, I can get like a 856 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 2: stretch Limo nineteen eighty eight, Gordon Gecko style, and we. 857 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 3: Can from a hold on. 858 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 2: I'm not going to Encino, but it can it hard enough. 859 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to Studio City, But. 860 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: Can it be from the Instagram model's dad? Take us 861 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 1: to a restaurant first? 862 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 3: Okay? 863 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 2: All right, so are we actually going to answer a question? 864 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 2: You're just going to fire him? 865 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 3: Ut No, keep going. 866 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 2: I want it was the question. Now, well, I still 867 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 2: am not satisfied and answered my limo question. 868 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 3: I don't need to have a lone. I can take 869 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 3: an uber X. I'll meet you guys there. But I 870 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,800 Speaker 3: don't believe you on Laurie. Oh wow something? 871 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? Perfect? No, you know I know her, She's been around, 872 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 2: you know, forever. 873 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 3: Does she still wrap Brittany? 874 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 2: I think so, but I don't know does she I 875 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 2: don't know actually who she does represent and doesn't represent? 876 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 2: But I know is she divorced Laurie? I don't know 877 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 2: she lives in Montreal. I have no idea. 878 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 3: Oh, okay, who do you think is bigger? 879 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:05,000 Speaker 2: Don't? Because Jackson has been doing Canadian tours. Yeah, it's 880 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 2: like you chose so transparent. 881 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 3: I said, I wasn't. Who do you think is a 882 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 3: bigger douchebag? Jacks or. 883 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 2: Sandoval Man? I don't. I think what sandval did was 884 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 2: was terrible. But I don't know if he's like necessarily 885 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 2: a douchebag. But what he did was was was horrible, 886 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 2: and not taking accountability for it was horrible. I don't know. 887 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 2: That's a tough question. I think I'd probably just go 888 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: with me no, you just talked about Yes, I just 889 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 2: figured it out. Oh no, now I can Now I 890 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 2: can know. 891 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: You have to pick someone. This is the game. It's 892 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: pick or die. You have to pick one or the other. 893 00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: It cannot be yourself. And then we're gonna get into 894 00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 1: Jackson's a bigger douchebag. Okay, all right, let's talk about 895 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: Danny and Nia. I knew them prior because they go 896 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 1: to my same church. I've known Danny and Nea for years. 897 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 1: I never originally kind of pictured that happening. We introduced 898 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: Danny to Jack's at a RAMS game and then this 899 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: kind of all happened. 900 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 3: What pretty much I am? I'm the catalyst to getting 901 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,240 Speaker 3: other people's jobs that I can't get. 902 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 2: Amazing, you know. 903 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 3: Nailed it. 904 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: But what do you think that there was a day 905 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 1: on the beach, you're wrestling, You're getting a little too 906 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 1: intense for Danny's liking, and then the night ends with 907 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: all of you guys in tears. 908 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 3: That was rough to watch? 909 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 2: Rough or amazing? 910 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't ever want to. I've seen my 911 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 1: husband cry two times. 912 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 3: The fact that all of. 913 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 2: You as cry, well, if you watched the original trailer 914 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,919 Speaker 2: that came out when I came down and gave Danny 915 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 2: a hug at the beginning, and he said he's allergic 916 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 2: to cotton, and I said it was Kashmir. I also 917 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 2: in the trailer said that I was the number one 918 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 2: crier in the group, just like I also said I 919 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 2: was a number one? 920 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 3: Did you cry on command right now? 921 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 2: Probably? Great? 922 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 3: Do it? 923 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 4: No? 924 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 2: I can't. Well now, I almost I almost did. When 925 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,839 Speaker 2: at the beginning, when I was talking about Isabella and 926 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 2: you asking about the scene, why would we have Isabella there? 927 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: I almost I know I saw that, but you seemed 928 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 1: like you enjoyed antagonizing Danny. 929 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 2: I mean, we hadn't quite seen. I think I was 930 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,760 Speaker 2: the one that coined the phrase. 931 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, is that what his name? I've never seen dark 932 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 3: Side Danny. 933 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 2: Well, if you so, you don't watch the. 934 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: Show, then, I mean in real life and real life, 935 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: I've never seen dark Side Danny. 936 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 3: I only see like I see church Danny. 937 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean we're probably the only two people 938 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 2: that would drink marguerite is before we go to church. 939 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 2: The most normal people don't. I mean you and. 940 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,840 Speaker 3: I us me and you know, I wait till after church. Okay, 941 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,240 Speaker 3: then I'm fine with it. 942 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 2: Is there a question in there, the question what you 943 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 2: so hard to watch? Great? 944 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: You know, I loved it hard to watch looking back, 945 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: Do you think you were antagonizing them to get the 946 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 1: heat off of you guys? 947 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 2: No, I I you also. 948 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 3: Job at the same time. 949 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was you know, it was funny because 950 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 2: it's supposed to be. You know, after this this journey 951 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 2: that I went on, and I was church, I was 952 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 2: very very When I first watched that episode, I was like, 953 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 2: oh god, they made me look so bad today, Like 954 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 2: I don't know that then I looked, But then I 955 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 2: watched it again and I was like, if you see 956 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,000 Speaker 2: me like play fighting and even play fighting with Michelle, 957 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 2: I looked like, you know. One of the things that 958 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 2: I sort of learned on this journey was that I 959 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 2: had Jesse and I'm going to talk to the third 960 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,760 Speaker 2: person like it like a douche. 961 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: Hold on, Jess, you were talking about you. I thought 962 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: you were talking about Janet's husband, because I know that's Jason, but. 963 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,879 Speaker 2: I know you'll never know his name. It's only like 964 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 2: one of the most ten common names in America. It's fine. 965 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 2: So the thing thing that I learned was like there 966 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,880 Speaker 2: was Jesse and over the years with pain and stress 967 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 2: and success and all these things. You know. Scott and 968 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 2: I talked about having these layers of Scott's theist of 969 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 2: like veils over me. And when I when I was 970 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 2: doing the journey of the first medicine that I took, 971 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 2: I went and sat next to him and I was 972 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 2: like talking about what I had just experienced, and he 973 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,239 Speaker 2: was like, you know, Jesse is enough. And that was 974 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,959 Speaker 2: the first thing I learned, like once you strip away 975 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,759 Speaker 2: all that stuff. And when I watched the episode the 976 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 2: second time, I was like, God, look, get how like 977 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 2: goofy and like that's how I used to be when 978 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 2: I was younger. I was like, you know, I looked 979 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 2: the way I looked, I talked the way I talked, 980 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 2: but I was like kind of goofy and you know, 981 00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 2: playful and stuff like that. And I watched that on 982 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 2: the beach and I was like, that's what I was, 983 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to do. And you know, 984 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 2: there's so much content that you that you and there's 985 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 2: so much context that you don't get to see. But 986 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 2: that was like a long day on the beach. I mean, 987 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 2: that was like two bottles of cosamigos and Why. 988 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 1: Didn't you guys have any mixers? You give me shit 989 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 1: about my cups today, but like you guys didn't even 990 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: have a mixer there. 991 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 2: I'm a purist. It didn't look good, well, it felt good. 992 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 3: Do you have any regrets from watching the season? 993 00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 2: Do I have any regrets? I kin't. You know. Yeah, 994 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 2: I regret being reactive instead of being logical. You know, 995 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,960 Speaker 2: there were a lot of moments where I, you know, 996 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 2: I was just there was just so much going on that, 997 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 2: you know, my first instinct was don't ask. Don't ask, like, oh, 998 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 2: who said this? Who said that? My first instinct was 999 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 2: to attack the person who said it. That was reactive 1000 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 2: and I wasn't like, Okay, let's get down to the 1001 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 2: bottom and I'll tell you what. The one time I 1002 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 2: did that was in the bedroom and with when I 1003 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 2: called Jack's up to. 1004 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,760 Speaker 3: Explain the oh, I like, I actually love that scene. 1005 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 2: We also called I also called Janet up. 1006 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 3: I wish you would have asked for the cell phone. 1007 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 2: I know, I didn't even think of that. 1008 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 3: Why wouldn't you think of that? Do you know her? 1009 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 3: Did you know her cell phone code? No? 1010 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 2: I think it was changed every like fifteen minutes. 1011 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: Hold on that would have been heaven if you would 1012 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 1: have said, can I have your cell phone? 1013 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 3: What's your code? And look through the text right there. 1014 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 2: You I wouldn't think to do that. 1015 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 3: Oh are you kidding? You don't have each other's locations? 1016 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 2: No, I don't even know you can have somebody's location. 1017 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 3: I have Matt's just to make sure he has mine too, 1018 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 3: whether you like it or not. 1019 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 2: I mean, now, of course I have. 1020 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: If it's not Michael Bay Quentin Tarantino, but he hangs 1021 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: out at the Peninsula, not at Chateau Ormont. 1022 00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 2: All last summer we were with him at Chateau, and 1023 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 2: I was desperately trying to get Isabella in his next movie. 1024 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 3: If it's happening, Can you please google what actors are 1025 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,919 Speaker 3: in the most recent Quentin Tarantino movie. 1026 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 2: He said that he wasn't doing it anyway. 1027 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:35,200 Speaker 5: So, yeah, so your regret that you weren't that I was. 1028 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:36,360 Speaker 2: I was reactive. 1029 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay. Do you think the show actually portrayed who 1030 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:40,439 Speaker 3: you are? 1031 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I think I think, you know, I think 1032 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit more complex than people get, and 1033 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 2: I think it showed certain aspects of my personality, and 1034 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 2: I think it showed growth which was which is what 1035 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 2: I'm still doing, trying trying to grow was a person, 1036 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 2: and uh yeah, I think it was pretty spot on. 1037 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,719 Speaker 3: Do you think Jax has a bald spot? 1038 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 2: I thought it was a cowlic? Is that what it's called? 1039 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 2: Calick colic cow? 1040 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 3: What are your thoughts on not having a reunion? 1041 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 2: I literally would I mean not literally figuratively, would do 1042 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,319 Speaker 2: it for free because I thought there was a There 1043 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 2: was so much that has happened, but I don't know 1044 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,240 Speaker 2: what happened. 1045 00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 1: I'll watch what Happens live. They were like, no, no, no, no. 1046 00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,359 Speaker 2: The ratings said differently, which is nice. Really Yeah, who 1047 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 2: is he on with Michelle? Buttu she's an actress, comedian, she's. 1048 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,720 Speaker 3: Guess bouto and I need to check the ratings. 1049 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,800 Speaker 2: Bouteau. I don't know. I was all for it, but 1050 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:04,760 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what it's actually, there is so much 1051 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:11,879 Speaker 2: for season two that would have sort of I think 1052 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 2: we would have gotten through a lot of it in 1053 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 2: a reunion, and now we have all of season two 1054 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:16,879 Speaker 2: to like. 1055 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm actually fine with you guys not having a reunion. 1056 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 1: How do you feel about Sheena and La La or 1057 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: anybody from Vanner Pump roles coming over, because Jack's publicly 1058 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: said that he wouldn't want anybody from Vandon pump Roles 1059 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 1: coming over. What are your thoughts. 1060 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:35,719 Speaker 2: I love Sheenan Brock, you know, we just sold them 1061 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 2: their house in the valley. 1062 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 3: Well, of course you love them, then how much? 1063 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 2: Well No, I've known Sheena, you know, forever. 1064 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 5: Too, and I have not hooked up with any of 1065 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 5: them never. Okay, So you know, I had a conversation 1066 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 5: with Jackson and Schwartz on the way out to that 1067 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,399 Speaker 5: golf tournament, and I actually wanted them to come over. 1068 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:06,800 Speaker 5: But talking with Jackson, Tom, they have such a presence 1069 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,919 Speaker 5: that I think people, you know, we we have such 1070 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,480 Speaker 5: a dynamic on our show with our group of friends 1071 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 5: that I think there would be people that would be 1072 00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 5: sort of overshowering, overpowered by them coming in because they 1073 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,280 Speaker 5: I mean, they're they're all pros. 1074 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 2: You know, they've been doing it a long time. And 1075 00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 2: I think we have a dynamic and we have a 1076 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 2: bunch of storylines that you know, what happened with me 1077 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 2: and Michelle, you know, what are the details and the 1078 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,120 Speaker 2: truths of what is what has come out? What happened 1079 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 2: with Jackson, Brittany. You know, there are all these storylines. 1080 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 2: I mean the baby with Jason. I played golf with 1081 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 2: Jason a half a dozen times since the cameras went down, 1082 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,840 Speaker 2: and you know, there's so much more, think about it. 1083 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 2: I didn't have one single scene, like one single moment 1084 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 2: with Jacks or Jackson, Brittany, the four of us. You know, 1085 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 2: there's so much more to explore that bringing in new people. 1086 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 3: I think, is it's too premature. 1087 00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the Chris said it's. 1088 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 2: Too premature from the beginning and not I. 1089 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: Know you haven't learned to speaking sound bites yet. But 1090 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm working through. 1091 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 2: It, which is why I did six hours of prep 1092 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,759 Speaker 2: for for Watch What Happens Live because I was like, Okay, 1093 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 2: I'll just give like two second answers, but. 1094 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,919 Speaker 1: Why this is a big question I put out on 1095 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: the Instagram that I've tagged you on, but now I'm 1096 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: going to get heckled for. 1097 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,319 Speaker 3: I asked, what are your questions for Jesse? 1098 00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: And everybody wants to know why Jack sweats orange? 1099 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 2: What's orange? Yeah? Oh the armpit orange thing? Yeah, it's 1100 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 2: I don't yeah self tanner spray tan. I don't do 1101 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,839 Speaker 2: any of that stuff. Like I put makeup, I put 1102 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 2: a little well, I saw you tagged me and you're 1103 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 2: doing full glam, and I'm like, I don't want I 1104 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 2: don't know. I'm only wearing pj's and I got a 1105 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 2: facial yesterday, and I have a goddamn mark right hair, 1106 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 2: and I got one right here that I'm married. 1107 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:06,880 Speaker 3: Stu you to get excited. 1108 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: I had three interviews before you. 1109 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,759 Speaker 2: So you because I put hairspray in two and I 1110 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,040 Speaker 2: don't wear hair product, so now I have to go home. 1111 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 3: You do wear a lot of headbands. 1112 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 2: I wear headbands, Yeah, I do. I actually wore one 1113 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,680 Speaker 2: running this morning and had one on when I got 1114 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 2: out of the shower because I usually don't use product 1115 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 2: at all. I just washed my hair once a week. 1116 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 3: And could we maybe add one thing into your lifestyle change. 1117 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 2: You're gonna come into my no show socks or my shoes. 1118 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 3: I just want. I don't like to see a man's ankle. 1119 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:43,600 Speaker 2: Ever an ankle, Well, I also didn't. I also didn't trim, 1120 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,959 Speaker 2: so I'm getting a little bushy. That's why you can't 1121 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 2: stay focused, because are you staring at that? 1122 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: I just there's hair and there's an ankle. So let's 1123 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:59,960 Speaker 1: talk about Let's talk about nipplegate one. I never knew 1124 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: that you could get tattoos drinking. I heard that you 1125 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: weren't supposed to. 1126 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 2: No, you can't get tattoos when you're drinking because you 1127 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,720 Speaker 2: might bleed more because your blood is thinner. 1128 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 3: But why were you guys all doing it and then 1129 00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 3: fighting to get the first? 1130 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 2: I thought it was a fake tattoo situation until Britt 1131 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 2: said outside like, no, no, no, it's real. And I've 1132 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 2: always wanted this tattoo. 1133 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 3: Is it the one on your wrist? 1134 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 2: No, it's right under my heart. This Isabella with a 1135 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,960 Speaker 2: little Bunny because Bunny is her middle name. I'll show 1136 00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 2: it to you if you want. I'm good tonight. 1137 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 3: Photos. Okay, great? Continue? 1138 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 2: What was the question? 1139 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 3: Well, what's the question? 1140 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so so the side piece of mistressing? You know, 1141 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 2: why would you say that to Hall? 1142 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 3: Like? What is that? 1143 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:55,000 Speaker 2: The funny thing is we had never really had any 1144 00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,399 Speaker 2: long conversation together, the two of us, and she had. 1145 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,919 Speaker 2: I was in line for the tattoo. She had asked 1146 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,439 Speaker 2: me if she could go first because she was getting 1147 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,960 Speaker 2: some little like a heart or something, and I sat 1148 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 2: next to her and we talked the entire time she 1149 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,919 Speaker 2: was getting the tattoo was the first time I'd ever 1150 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 2: like a really conversation, like super fun. I mean that's why, 1151 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,839 Speaker 2: that's why when I was first considering that idea of 1152 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 2: like them coming onto the show, I'm like, God, me 1153 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 2: and Laala would have so much fun. 1154 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,799 Speaker 3: Which do you think you'd have so much fun because 1155 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 3: you'd be into her? 1156 00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 2: No, because I think the banter would be amazing. So 1157 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 2: that was like the first real conversation I had with her, 1158 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 2: and it was it was before I said that comment. 1159 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 2: So it was like kind of funny because we were 1160 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 2: in this moment and the energy was great and and 1161 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,960 Speaker 2: I mean that's probably why she didn't chop my head off. 1162 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, because the way it played was that you said 1163 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 1: that before the tattoo. Yeah, but then what about when 1164 00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: you pinched Kristen Snipple? 1165 00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,760 Speaker 3: You regret this and any. 1166 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:05,959 Speaker 2: So yes, one of the things that I. 1167 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 3: You're working on with your ayahuasca. 1168 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:14,720 Speaker 2: No, no, no, there's so much context that you don't 1169 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 2: get to see. I mean, we have hundreds of you know, 1170 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 2: we have hundreds of hours of footage, and what actually 1171 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 2: happened didn't play out the way it actually happened, you know, 1172 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:32,479 Speaker 2: it never like I I never touched her. But if 1173 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 2: you know, one of the things I said to Josh, 1174 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 2: what do. 1175 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 3: You mean you never touched her? Because I saw it. 1176 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it didn't. It didn't happen. 1177 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,160 Speaker 3: Okay, you know, so you just you you made the move. 1178 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 2: I basically, So there's, like I said, there's a ton 1179 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 2: of context to it. And the thing that made me 1180 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 2: the most upset about that whole situation was I I 1181 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 2: whatever happened, like whatever happened, and and I can't blame 1182 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 2: it on drinking because I remember after that. But no, no, 1183 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 2: Kristin and I you know, you can see her grab me. 1184 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 2: But there were other things that happened, you know, throughout 1185 00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 2: the course of that, like interaction where where it was 1186 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,600 Speaker 2: we were very playful, we were No, it wasn't it 1187 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 2: wasn't a fight. And and you know I said to 1188 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 2: Jack's you know, whatever my part was in that, I 1189 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 2: take full accountability. But what makes me so angry is 1190 00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,280 Speaker 2: like number one, I don't treat women that way. And 1191 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 2: number two, and the most important is I'm raising a 1192 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 2: little girl and I don't want to assault women. I 1193 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 2: don't want to make women feel in an uncomfortable position 1194 00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 2: because I'm raising a little girl, and that's the most 1195 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,280 Speaker 2: important thing to me. And I said that to Jack's 1196 00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 2: and I said that to Luke as well. So if 1197 00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,160 Speaker 2: if there was a situation that that put Chris in 1198 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 2: an uncomfortable position, I like, I said to Luke, I 1199 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 2: one hundred percent apologize it's not right. But I'm like 1200 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,400 Speaker 2: racking my brain. I'm like that I didn't do that 1201 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 2: because I was drunk. 1202 00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 3: For you in that moment. 1203 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 2: I'm the same drunk I always am on a basis, 1204 00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like that's like that's 1205 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 2: like asking a bird how much it flies every day? Well, 1206 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I remember, you remember it? 1207 00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 1: Oh? 1208 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 2: I remember everything. I have this weird like. 1209 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 3: You don't go, you don't go brown. 1210 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I have. I I pull stuff up 1211 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 2: from like six years ago. I'm like, remember when you 1212 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,640 Speaker 2: said this six years ago. It's like stuck in my brain. 1213 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,280 Speaker 2: I remember saying I remember saying bye to Danny n 1214 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 2: Nia because I didn't see the pantsing thing. 1215 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 3: Oh, I have a question, and I know we have 1216 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 3: to go. 1217 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 2: You're not gonna let me answer it, but you're gonna 1218 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 2: ask it. 1219 00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am. Do you think that Nia always pulled 1220 00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 3: Danny right before shit hit the fan on purpose, because 1221 00:59:58,200 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 3: that's what they showed us in the finale. 1222 01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 2: The nanny has to go. 1223 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, the nanny has to go or the ace broke 1224 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 3: or whatever. 1225 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 2: That was my Yeah, that was like that was their 1226 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 2: thing before Dark Side Danny came out and it was 1227 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,680 Speaker 2: it was kind of like a little laugh, but I 1228 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 2: get it. I mean what they're going through. Holy shit, 1229 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:20,840 Speaker 2: I have one kid, zero patients and they are like, 1230 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 2: I don't know how they do it, and like they 1231 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:28,040 Speaker 2: are they are the strongest couple. Like she's so maternal 1232 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,880 Speaker 2: and she's so lovely that you know. And I get 1233 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,760 Speaker 2: where Danny's coming from too. It's like, oh, like god, 1234 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 2: I would need I mean I can drink twenty drinks, 1235 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,160 Speaker 2: but I would need forty if I had three kids 1236 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 2: under two and closing. 1237 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 3: If you had the opportunity right now where you could 1238 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 3: do anything to save your relationship with Michelle, would you 1239 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:48,560 Speaker 3: do it? 1240 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:58,400 Speaker 2: No? Really, nothing, knowing what I know now and being 1241 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 2: with somebody who is so incredible, like you know, an 1242 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:05,320 Speaker 2: amazing mother. 1243 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 3: Oh she's a mom already. 1244 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a two year old daughter and and Isabella 1245 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 2: and her daughter. No, it's uh, I would never I 1246 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:22,400 Speaker 2: would never go backwards, always always upwards. 1247 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 3: All right, so we're going to see Lace in a 1248 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:29,640 Speaker 3: cool next season. No, you wouldn't bring her on the show. 1249 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,280 Speaker 2: Well, she lives in Orange County, it's not the valley. 1250 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 1: Well, if you can only see yourself upwards, she's probably 1251 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,200 Speaker 1: gonna live with you near the shadow of Vermont soon. 1252 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 2: I mean, maybe I should just do the Real Housewives 1253 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 2: of OC and. 1254 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 3: Well, I'll ask tamer if she can get your job. 1255 01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:46,439 Speaker 3: She hasn't got me one yet. 1256 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 2: Just as a p A though, just as a PA, 1257 01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 2: I don't want to be in front of the camera. 1258 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,240 Speaker 2: I'll just feed lines to people and they like, say this, 1259 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 2: it'll be funny. Trust me. I want to be a 1260 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:55,840 Speaker 2: douchebag right now. 1261 01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 3: It works And where socks? 1262 01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,920 Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for tuning in for an 1263 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 1: episode of popping Off. I appreciate Jesse. 1264 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 3: Jesse, where should they find you on social media to 1265 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 3: follow you and do all the things? 1266 01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 2: I'm blessed. I got at Jesse Lally on everything, Twitter, Instagram, 1267 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,880 Speaker 2: which you know because you now follow me. And yeah, 1268 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 2: and in. 1269 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:21,240 Speaker 1: The next forty five minutes, I will be posting the 1270 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 1: photo of him with Anna and Nicole with his tongue ring, 1271 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 1: and you guys can make your own assumptions. 1272 01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,360 Speaker 2: And if you come to Jack's with me tonight, please 1273 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:37,280 Speaker 2: bring me socks long ones. Bye,