1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: I don't know by the scenes and Quentin Miller. I 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: felt like Quentin Mile of his fucking business. 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: And not only that, Quentin Miller didn't do anything wrong 4 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: and he's a talented, talented Listens. 5 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 3: Listen, everybody did something wrong? 6 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: All right, listen, Welcome to another episode of the New 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: Rory and Mall Podcast. I feel crazy saying that, because 8 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 2: like we're in the house, chilling, and we have a 9 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 2: very special special guest with us today. 10 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: That worked when we were doing the BT Awards and 11 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: had five minutes in him. Yeah, loud ass room. 12 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaking of the BT Awards, we sat with Drama 13 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 2: at the BT Awards for the Media Hub and the 14 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: conversation was so genuine and so cool. We felt like 15 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: we had to we had to have a more long 16 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 2: form conversation. 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. 18 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: So here we are today, drawn, Welcome man, thanks for 19 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 2: having me. Guys, we know you in the road right 20 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: now with Wiz and Logic. Y'all had Jersey last night, 21 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: So we appreciate you just stopping by and. 22 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 4: Kicking with us. Absolutely, it's a pleasure of mine. What 23 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 4: number of guests of mine, how many guests of you? 24 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: We're not like a super guest base podcast like that, 25 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: and it kind of has to be like friends to 26 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,919 Speaker 1: do I think logic. I mean, who ended up becoming 27 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: a friend. But he was the first time I think 28 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: we did a guest that we didn't know. That was 29 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: our first time meeting. Interesting, how is that that tour 30 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: with Wiz in logic? 31 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: It's dope, It's fun. 32 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 4: You know. I've been going out on tour Withiz since 33 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 4: twenty fourteen. So twenty fourteen went out with Whiz. 34 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: I think it was called the what was that tour 35 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: called something with cush I would imagine, I forget. 36 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: The name of it, but it was no that was 37 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:36,040 Speaker 3: that was Fallout Boy tour. 38 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: It was the one before that Paul the Boys. So 39 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: we did It's a wild name for a tour. 40 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 4: The first year we went out, it was me, Wiz, 41 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 4: g z Rich, homy Kwan, Saves the Gemini, and I 42 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 4: am Sue. Then the next year I went out and 43 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: it was me, uh, Wiz and Fallout Boy and that 44 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 4: was that was like two months. 45 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 3: That was our longest two months. 46 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 4: And that year was we had just signed Uzzi and 47 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 4: we took him on the road and Uzzi would come 48 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 4: out on my set. Then the next year we went out. 49 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 4: It was Wiz, Snoop, Kevin Gates and Aniko and me, 50 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 4: and then he didn't he did he go out in 51 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 4: twenty I don't think he went out in twenty seventeen 52 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 4: and twenty eighteen he went out with Ray Shimmered. 53 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: And you know, for some reason, however. 54 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: Does Wiz ever go home. 55 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 3: He works a lot. 56 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, he road. 57 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, it works a lot, and and you know, it's 58 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: it's dope to watch somebody of his caliber be able 59 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 4: to tour like a year after even if he doesn't 60 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 4: technically have a hit record out. You know, I definitely 61 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 4: remember being out when like it's a song called uh, 62 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: you know the Big. 63 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: One do you Fasten the Furious? 64 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 3: Yeah that you know, what's it called? I See You Again? 65 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: Like we went out. 66 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 4: I think that was twenty fifteen, and it was that 67 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: was when it was like on fire. Then I didn't 68 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 4: go out one year and Wiz wound up telling his 69 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: manager Will like, you don't ever, We're never doing this 70 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: ship without drama. Yeah, you know, because I'm like I'm 71 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: in between acts. I keep the crowd hype up, you know, excited, 72 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 4: you know, so it's no real downtime. 73 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: It's just so underrated in shows. 74 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: I feel like, no, it's you know, I agree, and 75 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 4: I think, you know it like what I've what I've 76 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 4: done with Wiz, you know, it's comparable to like what 77 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: Capri would do back in the day on tours or 78 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: you know, I know, Cluid I did a couple during 79 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,839 Speaker 4: the Deaf Jam era. So then nineteen we went out 80 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: and it was Wiz myself, money Bag French and Playboy Cardi. 81 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 4: Playboy Cardi wound up only doing maybe like two or 82 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: three shows, and then he dropped out of the tour 83 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 4: and then you know, COVID hit and then we came 84 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 4: back and this year it's Wiz in Logic, which is 85 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: which is dope? You know, I mean, you know, I'm 86 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: I've definitely been familiar with Logic and his music over 87 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 4: the time, but. 88 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 3: You know, I was, I can't front. 89 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: I was a little surprised to see how big his 90 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 4: fan base is huge. 91 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: It's definitely huge. 92 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 4: So and you know, going out with is you know, 93 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 4: Whiz is somebody that in the business, you know, I 94 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 4: really consider like a friend, you know what I'm saying. 95 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 4: Of course, I know everybody, I'm not really the type 96 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: of guy and like you won't see me at a 97 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 4: lot of like the quote unquote industry functions or you. 98 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: Know, I make stead of a circle, yeah, connect with. 99 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 4: I'm with the fam like I'm with my my business partners, 100 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 4: my friends, you know, our people. But you know, again, 101 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 4: Wiz is someone I've known since two thousand and eight, 102 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 4: two thousand and nine, since I've been going to Pittsburgh, 103 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 4: and I was definitely an early supporter, so you know, 104 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: he's a great guy and you know we have a 105 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 4: great relationship. 106 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: So and I love it. 107 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 4: I just love the vibe, you know, the summer tour, 108 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 4: you know, Wizards fan base and going out and what's 109 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: really crazy, I'm you know, it's like this year is 110 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: like even when I like walk on the stage, like 111 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 4: like when I come out for my first set, it's 112 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 4: like I'm hearing these kids like literally chanting my name, Drama, Drama, drama, 113 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 4: and is like wow, it's like even eight years in 114 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 4: the touring with Wiz, you know, I'm in a place in 115 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 4: my career where it's like, you know, I'm as relevant 116 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 4: as ever, you know, and the audiences sometimes get younger 117 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 4: and younger. You know when I say, you know, if 118 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 4: you was born in the year two thousand or after. 119 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 4: You know, it's louder than I don't think I've ever 120 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 4: even said that on a tour, you know what I'm saying. 121 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 4: And you know, there's more, there's majority nineties babies in there, 122 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 4: but there's a lot of two thousands and after and 123 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 4: the fact that they're you know, familiar with me or 124 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 4: you know, are still excited to see me as like, 125 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: you know, it's it's somewhat surreal and very humbling in 126 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 4: a way. And you know, I know, just my recent 127 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 4: projects with Tyler and you know, with Dreamville, or you know, 128 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 4: them knowing. 129 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 3: Me because of Jack. 130 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 4: Like it's always interesting, like what people know me for. 131 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 4: You know, there's a generation that clearly knows me for 132 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 4: gangster grills. You know, I meet women who know me 133 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: because of Wishing, my record with Chris Brown. And there's 134 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 4: people that know me because of Ouzi and Jack. And 135 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 4: now there's people that know me because of Tyler called 136 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 4: me if you get lost, So you know, it's just 137 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 4: dope like just to you know, and then there's people 138 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 4: that know the whole span. But there's definitely like various 139 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: audiences that are familiar with me because of a significant 140 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: point or period in my career. 141 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: You know, does the set have to change because of that, 142 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: especially with like Logic being with Wiz and obviously a 143 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: younger generation knowing you can you can you play the 144 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: old gangster grill stuff on this stour or do you 145 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: have to. 146 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 4: Kind of I don't really touch on it. I mean, 147 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 4: you know, my set at all, very little. I mean, 148 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 4: like on my first set, I like, I play some Wayne, 149 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: but I don't play gangster grills, playing like I don't 150 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: play cannon for instance. I possibly, you know, but I 151 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: know they're more familiar with a millie, you know what 152 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: I'm saying. So but I just I talk about like, 153 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: you know, when I get on stage, I'll talk about like, yo, 154 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 4: has anyone ever listened to my mixtapes? 155 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: Is anybody familiar? 156 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 4: And I get a lot of hands and you know, 157 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: they definitely don't call me if you get lost or 158 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 4: you know, people people know my catalog and I hear 159 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: them screaming on various things. So you know, I've done 160 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 4: tapes with everybody. So it's like, you know, whether it 161 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 4: could be a Kevin Gates tape or Chris Brown tape, 162 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 4: like a Gucci tape, like it you know, the span 163 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: of of what people you know love or are or 164 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 4: you know, like signify me with is like always interesting 165 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 4: in me curious. 166 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: If the Logic fans would like Little Wayne, I'd be terrified. 167 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: Did you jam in front of you know what? I 168 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: feel like if you don't. 169 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: Play thirty six Chambers. But they're also fourteen years old, 170 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: so I feel. 171 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: Like I feel like Logic fans in Little Wayne fans 172 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: are kind of similar. Yeah, I kind of feel like 173 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: they are. 174 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 4: I mean, Logic is a spinner like Logic's rappers, So 175 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: I feel like if you a Logic fan, like when 176 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: you say thirty. 177 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you would have to play like 178 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: that type of hip hop because I know Logic likes 179 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: that type of shit. I'm sure he loves Wayne too, 180 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's fan base. I feel 181 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: like they would be the purest, but they're also very young, 182 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: so I wouldn't even know. 183 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's going a little deep because I 184 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 3: feel like. 185 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 1: The younger fans would be the nerdy, like research everything 186 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: type of thing. 187 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 3: I play more UZI and more. 188 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 4: Fucking Check West or third Logic Shambers, per se. 189 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: You know, I was I was surprised to find out 190 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: and talking to like like kids born in two thousands. 191 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: I was surprised to see how much they love Playboy Cardi, Like, 192 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: I had no idea. 193 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 194 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 2: He was like, god, yeah, like I'm late to that 195 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: another level. Yeah, I did not know that. And I'm like, 196 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: I'm talking about kids that are like fifteen sixteen. I'm like, 197 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: who's your favorite rep Playboard Cardi. 198 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: I was like, really, out of this world? You got? Yeah? 199 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 4: Have you seen footage of Cardi performances? Like this ship 200 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 4: is banana? 201 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: It's different. 202 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: I have not been attacked online the way I have 203 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: like Playboy Cardi fans. I thought it was the Barbs 204 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: when the Donda show happened and play where Cardi came 205 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: out ship. I think I tweeted something like Kanye brought 206 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: out in sane clown posse. 207 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: It was on. 208 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: I could probably refresh it right now. This is what 209 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: six months ago. You're still on my ass about this. 210 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 211 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 4: I feel like there's Uzi and there's Cardi, and you 212 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 4: know they are like the the fathers of that generation 213 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 4: in a sense, like Thug is the grandfather, and then 214 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 4: Uzi and Cardier the fathers, and then you know there's 215 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 4: there's the one. 216 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: I feel everything comes from Wayne. 217 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 4: I feel like a lot comes from Wayne. I feel 218 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 4: like a lot comes from I feel like there was 219 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 4: Pac right, and then a lot came from Park, the 220 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 4: DMX's the Jah Rules fifty Dwayne. You know when it 221 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 4: comes to style and you know, just aura or tattoos 222 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: or things like that. Yeah, and then yeah, then a 223 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 4: lot of a lot of the rappers from there in 224 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 4: a sense, or you know of this generation or all 225 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 4: Wayne babies. 226 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 2: I know you you're on the road with wiz h. 227 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: What was the conversation like with you and wiz in 228 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 2: regards to the whole DJ situation in La. 229 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 4: So, you know, a friend of mine actually sent me 230 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 4: the video before it went viral. I was, I was 231 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 4: in the club when he sent it to me, and 232 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 4: I didn't really like, I didn't really get a chance 233 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 4: to like watch it, watch it, or I couldn't hear it. 234 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 4: I think I watched it, but I couldn't hear it. 235 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 4: And I woke up that morning to it and I 236 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 4: had seen it went viral, and you know, like, you know, 237 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 4: me watching it is like shit, like something had to happen. 238 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 4: You know, whiz is one of the coolest most down 239 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 4: to earth guys in hip hop, you know what I'm saying, 240 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 4: And you know, to watch to watch that interaction was like, 241 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 4: you know, and as a DJ, you know, it was 242 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 4: like or even as a man, you know, off top 243 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 4: Whiz was wrong, you know, like I don't I don't 244 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: give a fuck. It turned into a like a rapper 245 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 4: DJ thing, but it's just the man thing, like you 246 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 4: can't put your hands on no man, like, you know, 247 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 4: and him him hitting the kids head off his head 248 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 4: like he was dead wrong, you know. 249 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 3: But you know I also. 250 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: Watch this like DJ campaign start about like trying to 251 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 4: cancel Wiz or you know, we're not having this or 252 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: you know, like. 253 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: And I really felt like and I'm gonna just speak. 254 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna just speak the real since I'm with good company. 255 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 4: Like DJs at times can be very sensitive creatures. 256 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: I was going to ask, do you think DJs are 257 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: some of the most sensitive in the genre. 258 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 4: Absolutely, Well, let's let's talk about DJs first, and then 259 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 4: at one point I would put program directors in that 260 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: box too. Over the last seven eight years, because of streaming, 261 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: program directors haven't had as much power as they once did. 262 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 4: I mean, they're also very sensitive creatures. 263 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: Hebros on camera now. 264 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 4: Right, So DJs, and some of it is warranted, some 265 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 4: of it's not. But you know, DJs are the people 266 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 4: that a lot of times break these artist music absolutely, 267 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 4: you know, and then they feel like the artists go 268 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 4: on and become these superstars and they don't double back 269 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: or show the appreciation or show the love, which is 270 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 4: sometimes it's true and which is sometimes not, you know. 271 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 4: And the thing I always the thing about it with 272 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 4: so I felt like DJ's were using this situation for 273 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: their own personal sandbox to stand on and to be 274 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 4: very self righteous in a lot of ways and to 275 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 4: you know, point the finger wiz and what he did 276 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 4: wrong and say, oh, we're not And I'm not talking 277 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 4: about any DJ specifically by no means, I'm just talking 278 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 4: about as a whole, like this whole DJ united thing, 279 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: like like cut it out, guys, Like I hear you, guys, yeah, 280 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 4: like I hear you guys arguing about somebody undercutting the 281 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 4: other one or doing this, or like like fucking rappers 282 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: have been disrespecting DJ's for a long time. 283 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 3: In this situation. 284 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 4: If like there's public figures that we know in entertainment 285 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 4: and in sports, when a certain situation has become public 286 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 4: and the next thing, you know, story after story after 287 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 4: story come out like, oh, whether it deals with women 288 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 4: or what have you. However, that's not the case, Whiz Like, 289 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: It's not like after the situation happened, everybody had a 290 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 4: horrible Whiskalifa story, right, you know what I mean, And 291 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 4: it's like, okay, like the man fucked up, he made 292 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 4: a mistake. You know, I'm sure there's more to the story. 293 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 4: And you know, again, the DJ Mikey Danger, I know him. 294 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 4: He's a great guy. He's a very humble kid. Like 295 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 4: he definitely didn't deserve that, and you know, I'm sure 296 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: he didn't want to be known or garnished the attention 297 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 4: for being the kid that Whiskalifa knocked his hat off, 298 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you don't have to 299 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 4: change his name though, that's a question you have to ask. 300 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: But well, he was in danger, you know. 301 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 4: But again, like and that was that was something that 302 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: I felt like Whiz owed him a one on one 303 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 4: an apology. I know he reached out. You know, I 304 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 4: don't know if they had ever spoken, but I also 305 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 4: you know, and I didn't want to come off as 306 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: bias because I'm literally on tour with the guy right now. 307 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 4: But I wanted to give him the opportunity to, you know, 308 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 4: to at least like speak his peace. 309 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: And you know, as I saw this, the DJ. 310 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 4: Is kind of like, you know, kind of like just 311 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 4: I don't know, like I don't like just starting this 312 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 4: whole cancel campaign and like ganging up on Wiz, like 313 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 4: I felt it was unfair. And I actually like I 314 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 4: was trying to reach out to kick Capri. Kick Capri went, 315 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 4: you know, made a made a statement, and you know, 316 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: Whiz even him and Kid had their own conversation and 317 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 4: he wound up calling me around that time. And I 318 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: had just got off the phone with Wiz and we 319 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 4: were speaking and I was like, look, we could just 320 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 4: go on my gram. Like he was like, yeah, let's 321 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 4: just do something like let's go on your platform and 322 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 4: you know, speak your peace, and and I was cool 323 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 4: with then, and I didn't I don't want to underestimate 324 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 4: my platform. But when MB called me and he was like, yo, 325 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 4: I'll come down there. We can do it and put 326 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: it on the Breakfast Club. You know, for me, it 327 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: was like it's not really about me, Like I could 328 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 4: I could easily so just do it myself and mego 329 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 4: viral and it'd be a drama and Wiz thing. But 330 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 4: I was like, yo, having envy there, you know, two 331 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 4: DJs of our stature, and then also having that platform 332 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 4: at a breakfast club, I was sure that the message 333 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 4: would would would gain attraction that was necessary to put 334 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 4: it all a bit because at the end of the day, 335 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: you know, the news was going to be old in three, 336 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 4: four or five days and everyone was going to move on. 337 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: But if Wiz didn't address it, the DJs might not 338 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 4: have moved on. And I was like, yo, I've seen 339 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 4: DJs making comments like let's cancel Wiz. I don't even 340 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 4: play Whiz in the club anyway. I'm like, well, what 341 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 4: the fuck are you talking? You don't even play the 342 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: band's music anyway, Like why are you so? Why are 343 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: you ready to why are you ready to? Be Al 344 00:16:58,760 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: Sharpton like. 345 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: Cut it the fun out and Wiz To me, it 346 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: was it was surprising one because Wiz has always been 347 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: known as the cool guy, absolutely, and I think he 348 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 2: had an uncool moment for the maybe the first time 349 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: that I can remember, and DJ's didn't like it and 350 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 2: like you said, I didn't even know Kickingpri had an Instagram. 351 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: I didn't even know he was on social media. Yeah, 352 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 2: I'm from the Bronx. I love Kicking Pri. That's disrespectful, 353 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 2: probably one of the first mixtapes I ever brought with Kick. 354 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 3: Don't follow him on the ground, I don't follow him 355 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: on the gram. 356 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: But it was good to see. 357 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: It was good to see money bags under community. 358 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 2: Not at all, but it was good to see kicking 359 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 2: pre voices opinion and be like, Yo, that was fucked 360 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: up because it was but canceling Whiz, this is cool. 361 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: But he had an uncool moment that was. 362 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 4: All and Kid and and Kid's perspective was and he 363 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 4: had just did the Breakfast Club and he had kind 364 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 4: of been speaking about something similar, and he was like, 365 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 4: I just don't want Wiz to be an example of 366 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 4: younger rappers thinking it's cool to disrespect the DJ. 367 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: It's honestly the Christopher will Smith situation. Comedians like we 368 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: have to nip this but now because we're just gonna 369 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: get smacked. 370 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 4: Every show it was, it was it literally felt like 371 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 4: the same type of situation, you know, And and it 372 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 4: was like people were like, one, like what Where's is 373 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 4: such the cool guy, Like what's going on inside of 374 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 4: him that made something like that the same thing they 375 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 4: did with Will whatever, Like YO with Will is like 376 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 4: we never would expect that from Will. And then you know, 377 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 4: here was the victim and Chris Rock or in Mikey 378 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: Danger where it was like they didn't deserve that, you 379 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Andy, And. 380 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 2: I've been to Poppy with Mikey Dangers DJ. He's not 381 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: that bad of a DJ. Yeah, Poppy turned up. 382 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 4: A few, He's opened up for meat, He's opened up 383 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: for me numerous times in the last decade. 384 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 3: He's a great kid man. He's a cool guy. 385 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 4: And I'm you know again, like I said, I'm sure 386 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 4: just the attention and what you know, Like you know, 387 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 4: he probably had DJs calling him. 388 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure he. 389 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 4: Has some family members that was ready to train to go, 390 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And he was dealing with 391 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 4: his own personal stuff, so you know, I you know, 392 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 4: I felt for him, you know what I'm saying. 393 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 2: So he had an uncool moment. But we love Where's. 394 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 2: He's one of the coolest dudes in the game. 395 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: Where do you see DJ DJing going in the next 396 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: ten years since we were talking about program directors and 397 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: radio changing. I feel like with the festival space, the 398 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: DJs that get booked kind of got their name from 399 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: radio and that's how they're continuing their career. But there's 400 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: plenty of DJs that didn't get in the space you 401 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: did with actually putting out projects, and you're attached to 402 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: things outside of just DJing. Right, what does a new 403 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: DJ do now? 404 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 4: It's a great question because I literally had a DJ 405 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 4: call me the other day. He was from Nashville and 406 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 4: he called me and he said, Yo, I just need 407 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 4: some advice. I got like five artists and we're about 408 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 4: to do a show in Denver and I'm going out there, 409 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 4: and how much should I be charging or take get 410 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: from these artists? And I had to, I had I said, 411 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 4: let's let's take this step by step. So, first of all, 412 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 4: you're a DJ trying to make a name for yourself 413 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 4: in Nashville. You're going to Denver in Nashville with five artists, 414 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 4: and respectfully, if you if you watch this, this is 415 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 4: the same thing I told you. So I don't I 416 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 4: don't want you to take it any type of way. 417 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: He's a DJ, he will. 418 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 4: He had five up in five artists that he was 419 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 4: trying to break and he had a show in Denver, 420 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 4: and I was like, bro, you're trying to do so 421 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 4: much at once. First of all, artists literally are like 422 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 4: your children, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, and they 423 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 4: are artists you know, uh need a lot of attention 424 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 4: in a way. You know, I mean they rightfully, so 425 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: like you're you know, if you're a DJ or an 426 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 4: executive or an R, you know it's your job to 427 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 4: you know, help their career heightened. 428 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: So I had to break it down to me. 429 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 4: I was like, look, bro, First of all, when I 430 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 4: was you know, I had to brand myself first. You know, 431 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 4: that was my first goal, branding DJ drama and branding 432 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 4: Gangster grills. So people were familiar with that. When I 433 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 4: first started working with Tip or GZ they were local artists, 434 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 4: you know. T I was signed, but he wasn't the 435 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 4: national guy. You know, Gez like Coach K lived around 436 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 4: the corner from me. You know what I'm saying. I 437 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 4: would make local I would make show CDs for GZ 438 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 4: fo one hundred dollars. So and I just tried to 439 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 4: explain to him that he was he was trying to 440 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 4: take on too much at once, you know, and it's like, 441 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 4: you know, as much as like it's like, yeah, I 442 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 4: came from an era where I was able to make 443 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 4: mixtapes and attach myself to projects and artists and brands 444 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,239 Speaker 4: that DJs can't necessarily do. Like the mixtape space is 445 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 4: literally non existent right now. I mean, people are still 446 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 4: coming to me to do tapes, but you know, one, 447 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 4: it's for the nostalgia of it, and it's two because 448 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: I'm already a brand, but like a new DJ. Technically, 449 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 4: trying to make a mixtape's kind of difficult because mixtapes 450 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 4: aren't what they used to be. But also, you know, 451 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 4: I had the advantage over the ogs in my time 452 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 4: because they didn't have the Internet or they didn't have 453 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 4: mixtape websites, so what they had to do to go 454 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 4: hand in hand to get their name out across the country, 455 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 4: My class was able to do faster because we had 456 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 4: the Internet and the accessibility. And then you know, after that, 457 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 4: you know, the dat PIFs and a lot of mixtapes came. 458 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 4: So it's like at the same time, but I also 459 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: didn't have social media. I didn't have Twitter and Instagram 460 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 4: and TikTok to move, you know, to move in that 461 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 4: quick of a space. So I think everybody just has 462 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,479 Speaker 4: to take advantage of, you know, the accessibility or what 463 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 4: where you are in that space. And I told them, like, 464 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 4: the thing I told him was like, yo, look what 465 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 4: I did was I didn't you know, I took a 466 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 4: formula that was hot up north on the East Coast 467 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 4: and just applied it to Southern music. Like I didn't 468 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 4: invent the wheel, you know what I'm saying, But I 469 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 4: utilized like the the the artists and the space where 470 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 4: I was. Thankfully I was in the South where you know, 471 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 4: imagine if I would have moved to New York from Philly, 472 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 4: I would have, you know, been competing with fucking everybody, everybody. 473 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 3: You know I was in. 474 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: I was in an area where honestly, the guys before me, 475 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 4: the big oomps, you know, DJ Jelly and Oomp Camp 476 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,679 Speaker 4: and and other DJs, they weren't like focusing on like 477 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 4: dope covers, and they weren't like talking on their tapes 478 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 4: or you know. The one thing I do feel like 479 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: I brought to the table was I am you know, 480 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 4: like before me, people just would do like shoutouts and 481 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 4: shout the songs, shout to Roya Malone on twenty fifth 482 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 4: Street or what have you. Like I started, I turned 483 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 4: my shit into speeches. Yeah, and that was something new 484 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 4: that I brought. But yeah, I didn't invent the wheel 485 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 4: like I was. I was fucking biting the fuck out 486 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 4: of who Kidd in Green Lantern like me and Cannon 487 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: just used to like every time who Kid or Green 488 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 4: would drop, we would just go crazy like, oh my god, 489 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: like look at the fucking fold outs who Kid has 490 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 4: with the MTV logos and the and and the eight 491 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 4: page spreads, and Green like with his drops, and you 492 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 4: know there would be no gangster grills drop Little John's 493 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 4: voice and no Cannon drop if wasn't for Green. So 494 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 4: and I told and So I say that to say that, like, 495 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 4: look like I'm not telling you to go invent the wheel, 496 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 4: but like you know, you have to. You have to 497 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 4: find your lane, you have to. 498 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: But you guys were a bit more hands on, I 499 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: feel like, and that's where I think DJs need to 500 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 1: go back to to brand themselves, because it isn't a 501 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: submit a mixtape to me and put your drops in 502 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: the front and back, Like yeah, you and Canon were 503 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: really putting those together with hundred artists, and I think 504 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: that's what DJs kind of need to do, even in 505 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: the TikTok era. Like my man Austin Mills, DJ's gigs 506 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: and ship. His biggest thing now is doing these remixes 507 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: on the NPC on TikTok, and that's what's getting booked. 508 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 4: And then like it's not just got a record deal, right, Yeah, 509 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 4: So somebody like Austin Mills is great example. Like I 510 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 4: love watching him on the ground. I'm not really heavy 511 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 4: on TikTok, but. 512 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: You know he's doing the same thing with the. 513 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 4: Remixes that he does, like them ships his fire and 514 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 4: you know, he brought something to the table and he 515 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 4: just wound up getting a record deal. Like perfect example 516 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 4: of somebody who utilized his platforms and brought something to 517 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 4: the table. He gets booked at festivals. His remixes are 518 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: fucking fire, and it's like okay, dope, like this, here's it. 519 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 4: You know, here's somebody that that gets it and figured 520 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: it out, and you just got it, you. 521 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 3: Know, the beauty figure it out. 522 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: Getting oversaturated to some degree because now talent has to 523 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: separate everybody, but it's always it's not just playing music anymore. 524 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 4: It's not, but it was oversaturated. When I was there 525 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 4: was a thoul and DJ's out, you know what I'm saying, Like, 526 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 4: you know, but. 527 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: Now it's like I think it's a different level of 528 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: saturation out of because. 529 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: Everybody even needs Yeah, like. 530 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: Everybody can have a platform almost if you have social media, 531 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: you can push your shit to everybody see it. 532 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 4: But it's oversaturated in general because now like every Friday 533 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 4: or Thursday at midnight, one hundred thousand songs drop on 534 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 4: on DSP So every generation has been like the ogs 535 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 4: before us, Like if they looked at our generation, they 536 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 4: would probably say, yo, it's a million fucking DJs and 537 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 4: everybody's just putting exclusives on there. And you guys aren't 538 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 4: making real mixtapes because we used to scratch. 539 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 3: And blend and you know what I'm saying. 540 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 4: So you know, I can't be like, you guys aren't 541 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 4: doing what I was doing, because you know. 542 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 3: That's that's an old guide talk. 543 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, it's definitely the world is oversaturated now more 544 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: than it ever has. 545 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 3: And you know, because of like social media, the and outlets, 546 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 3: like we. 547 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: Get information so fast enough with. 548 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 4: Everything, so you know, you gotta. But it's it's a 549 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 4: you can figure it out, you can do it. You 550 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, You gotta, you just gotta, you gotta, 551 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 4: you gotta do it like and I look at it 552 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 4: like if you really love it and you love your craft. 553 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 4: And bro, I was doing this ship when I could 554 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 4: barely pay my water bill, Like I. 555 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: Wanted to talk about that. So you literally drum You've 556 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 2: come You've come up through I think almost every level 557 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 2: of the music industry, A n R DJ executive now 558 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 2: like you arrested, right you obviously, you obviously are somebody 559 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: that loves music, loves the culture of histories. To the 560 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 2: guys that are starting out now, like we were just 561 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: talking about what is it? What is it? What's important 562 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 2: for them to know going into it and as far 563 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 2: as they're like their goals, like is it should it 564 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 2: be money or should it just be about changing something 565 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 2: in the culture, leaving their imprint and helping other artists 566 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: and helping other Because from a college student DJ A 567 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: and R to now an executive of you know, an 568 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 2: imprint and a label with some of the most influential 569 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 2: and successful artists that we have in the culture. And 570 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: you have a Grammy winner, Like that's a you know 571 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 2: what I mean? Like that's almost like, yo, here, look 572 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: at what this guy did and try to follow that. 573 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 4: Right, Maull, Like this is as true as I can 574 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 4: tell it. Like when I started djaying, my goal was 575 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 4: to get my name on a flyer Like that's that 576 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 4: was the top of the top for me. Like when 577 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 4: I went to see Juice and my mom bought me 578 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 4: a turntable and a mixer, and then I convinced my 579 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 4: grandparents to buy me she I had a belt drive 580 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 4: for DJ's watching and then you know, the technique twelve 581 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 4: hundreds are direct drive, so the belt drives like you 582 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 4: can't really when you. 583 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: Jig a jigged, it like takes a while. 584 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 4: So I got, I got my technique twelve hundred's you 585 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 4: know I got. I bought my first mixtape on one 586 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty Fifth Street DJs AND's Old School Part two. 587 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 4: I was fascinated with mixtape culture, but like, yeah, like 588 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 4: when I was in high school and I was DJing, 589 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 4: like yo, I was like when I used to go 590 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 4: up to Broaden Erie from Central High and people would 591 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 4: pass out flyers, I was like, man, I gotta get 592 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 4: my name on a flyer, Like I got to get 593 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 4: my name on a flyer. 594 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: You know. 595 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 4: So everything that I've accomplished is like it's like it's 596 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 4: been extra, you know. It's like, you know, and I've 597 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 4: had so many moments like when I made Trapp or Die, 598 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 4: I was like, how the fuck am I gonna, Like 599 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 4: what am I going to do next? Like then dedication happened, 600 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 4: you know, or you know, then I put in put 601 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 4: my album out, or after the Raid and you know, 602 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 4: like I became a fucking hip hop mart, you know, and. 603 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 3: I put an actual album out. 604 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 4: Or you know, when I then I was like okay, 605 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 4: like I'm putting albums out, but I'm not having records 606 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: that really translate. And then I made oh My, and 607 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 4: it was like I finally had a record that was 608 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 4: heavy in the club. And then my moment happened and 609 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 4: it was a top twenty record. And then you know, 610 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 4: we formed Generation Now and we signed Oozy and it 611 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 4: was like then it was like, okay, you guys, you guys. 612 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 3: Did it, but you know, can you do it again? 613 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: Right? 614 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 3: You know? 615 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 4: So like a lot of my career, I've I've felt 616 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 4: like somewhat of the underdog at times, and I liked 617 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 4: that space because I thrive off of it, you know, 618 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 4: and even just recently, like who would have thunked? Twenty 619 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 4: two years later, I would win a fucking Grammy for 620 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 4: a mixtape series that I started, you know, in the 621 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 4: fourth ward, like in my humble abode where I could 622 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 4: literally pay my water bill, and you know, here comes 623 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 4: Tyler the creator with his genius idea, you know, and 624 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 4: and me being a part of that, you know. So 625 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 4: what I would my advice to those coming up, like 626 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 4: you know, unfortunately when it comes not unfortunately, but in 627 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 4: hip hop, like it's not it's it's it's not. It's 628 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 4: comparable to two sports in a sense, like you know, 629 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 4: you go from college like like like artists is like 630 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: when they're coming up, they're they're playing college ball, and 631 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 4: then draft days when you get your record deal. But 632 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 4: then you still got to go to the league and 633 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 4: you got to really ball. Then you gotta you know, 634 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 4: once you get your deal, just like you're in the 635 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 4: league with Lebron and Steph and and you know Russell 636 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 4: and you know, uh Johannis. Once you get your record deal, 637 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 4: then you're in the game with Dirt and baby and 638 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 4: Hove and x Y and Z and Wayne. 639 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 3: And Drake and Cole, and so. 640 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 4: If you want to become a lawyer, you have to 641 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 4: go to law school, you have to pass the bar. 642 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 4: If you want to become a doctor, you have to 643 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 4: literally you can't just sale I'm a doctor. And hip hop, 644 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 4: anybody can technically say, oh, I'm a DJ or oh 645 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 4: I'm a rapper, and they could be doing it for 646 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 4: six months and you could literally get a record deal 647 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 4: or make a record that translates and becomes a hit record, 648 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 4: which is dope. 649 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. But I'm somebody that. 650 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 4: I've always felt like one of the reasons why I'm here, 651 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 4: and one of the reasons why I've sustained a career 652 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 4: and been through so many generations of hip hop and 653 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 4: so many time and spaces, is because I'm really a 654 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 4: student of the game, like I'm really from the claw. 655 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 4: I did this because I love it, you know what 656 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 4: I'm saying. I didn't do it. You know, we all 657 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 4: love to make money, you know what I mean. And 658 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: I love money. You know it's great, But that's I 659 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 4: didn't start doing it because I wanted to make money. 660 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 3: I did it because I loved music. I loved hip hop. 661 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 4: I loved that feeling of hearing a new song on 662 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 4: clues tape, or going to school listening to Smith and Wesson, 663 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: or fucking when Tribe would drop or when Wu Tang 664 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 4: Forever came out, or when outcasts would come out, like 665 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 4: in so many places. So I just feel like, and 666 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 4: specifically for DJs, like you know, no know your history. 667 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 4: You know, at the minimal you should be able to 668 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 4: kind of know, because it's it's only going to help you. 669 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 4: Like one of the reasons why I knew, like when 670 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 4: me and Tip first like kind of came together, was 671 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 4: because I was like, okay, Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh 672 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 4: Prince Eric being rock Kim like jam Massa j and 673 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 4: run DMC who kid in fifty like Green and m Okay. 674 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 4: I found my guy, like this is my guy that 675 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 4: if I attach my movement to his, we come up together. 676 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 4: And you know, now not only am I just gangster 677 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 4: grills and making my brand, people also associate me with 678 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 4: this guy who's claim and and showing that he's the 679 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 4: king of the South. So and that was because you know, 680 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 4: I was a student of the game and I knew 681 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,399 Speaker 4: that as a DJ, Like a dope way to come 682 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 4: up would be to you know, connect with an artist. 683 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 684 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: So first one hundred, anyone could play the record that's 685 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: already number one, right, I can hit play. 686 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 4: Two exactly and that And that's one thing about like 687 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 4: when I get booked at gigs or doing shows, like 688 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 4: you know, I love to play the records that are hot, 689 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 4: but you know, people also I want to play something new, 690 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 4: even if they're they looking at me like I'm like, yo, 691 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 4: remember where you. 692 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:06,720 Speaker 3: Heard it first? 693 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 4: Like, and you know, there's a way to break a record. 694 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: And I think that that's been part of my success. 695 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 4: And that's what I would tell a lot of like 696 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 4: you know, up and coming DJs that there's a lot 697 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 4: of there's a lot of ways for you to to 698 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 4: get to the level. Like if I can do it 699 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 4: soaking you like I was a fucking kid in Philly 700 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 4: making little mixtapes and I'm a Grammy a war winner 701 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 4: like you just at the end of the day, though, 702 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 4: but like if you do it for the money, or 703 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 4: if you do it for the women, or if you're 704 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 4: doing it for the fame, all that shit is cool. 705 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying that you can't achieve that and 706 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 4: that's dope, But at the end of the day, I 707 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 4: do it for the culture, like I love putting off 708 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 4: for the culture, like I love the fact of you know, 709 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 4: when people look back, like when my story is told, 710 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 4: when we talk about legacy, like people and be like, yo, 711 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 4: Drum really left the stand on the culture like at 712 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 4: this time, at this time, at this time, like over 713 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 4: and over again. 714 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 3: And that's that's what I thrive off of. 715 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 4: And that's why I'm so successful because you know I 716 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 4: really like I'm really like that, like I'm really from 717 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 4: the cloth, like and even with Gangster Grills, like I 718 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 4: loved when I was able to like do a Little 719 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 4: Brother tape and do it for Real tape, and do 720 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 4: a Dead Prais tape, do a Childish Gambino tape and 721 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 4: work with Tyler because it's like, you know, here's this 722 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 4: brand that started, you know as like Southern trap music, 723 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 4: but it's like, you know, my roots, I was a 724 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 4: backpacker rat, like I used to DJ Lyricist Lounge, and 725 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 4: you know, gangster grills is what took off. And you 726 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 4: know it's like it's almost like John rest In piece 727 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 4: of John Singleton. I like to compare it to like 728 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 4: a movie director, like John Singleton's first movie was Boys 729 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 4: in the Hood, which was like at the time, you 730 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 4: know that was those were the movies that were popular 731 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 4: in the in the mid nineties. Then he went on 732 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 4: to make Higher Learning and Poetic Justice and Baby Boy. 733 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 4: So that's how I look at my career, like, yeah, 734 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 4: I got in the door with Gangster Grills is like 735 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 4: this fucking you know, trap street, uh platform. But now 736 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 4: I can navigate as a director and take take my 737 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 4: brand in so many different lanes and you know, work 738 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 4: with various artists from various backgrounds to show like you know, 739 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 4: like you know, I do this. 740 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: Obviously iTunes and streaming put the nail on the coffin. 741 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 1: But do you think your success killed the mixtape? 742 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 3: Say that again, do I think my success? 743 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: Did you think the attention that Gangster Grills brought? And 744 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: then obviously with the fed case, do you think that 745 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:48,840 Speaker 1: killed the mixtape? 746 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 3: So one, yeah, when when the raid happened. 747 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: Like you know in The American Gangster when he wore 748 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: the fur hat at the box of Max, right, was 749 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: Gangster Grills that fur coat and hat at the at 750 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: the front of the fucking boxing rink. 751 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 4: In a sense, I could say that it was like 752 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 4: I think that, you know, because of like I was 753 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 4: top of the food chain, like I was the go 754 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 4: to guy, you know, and like when that happened, like 755 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 4: the mixtape game was forever changed, and I felt a 756 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 4: lot of guilt for that, you know, like I did, 757 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 4: Like I always felt like, you know, I came up 758 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 4: like studying Duop and Tony Touch and ron G and 759 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 4: SNS and Clue and all these guys, and it was like, damn, 760 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 4: when I become when I became that guy, the shit 761 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 4: dies on my shoulders, like you know I did. 762 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 3: I felt like I felt guilt. 763 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 4: Like damn, I don't want to be the I don't 764 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 4: want to be the guy that killed the mixtape, you 765 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 4: know what I mean. And you know, so after that, 766 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 4: like I continued on going and I kept putting out mixtapes, 767 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 4: and there was a resurgence and you know, after the raid, 768 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 4: dream Chasers happened, there is no competition happen. 769 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: Like, but for the most part, those religion original music, right, 770 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: dream Chasers. 771 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, for the most part, they were all I mean, 772 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 4: but you know, Dedication three, four, five six happened you know, 773 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 4: Dedication three was probably one of the first tapes we 774 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,479 Speaker 4: did after that was probably the biggest tape that. 775 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 3: Came out after the raid during that time. 776 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 4: But I also feel like, you know, the Internet was 777 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 4: becoming like when I was, when I was during my generation, 778 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 4: like that PIF was like the enemy to us because 779 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 4: they were giving like free mixtapes like. 780 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,240 Speaker 3: We love them, yeah exactly, Like. 781 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, like y'all like give me that shit for free exactly. 782 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 3: So like the consumer loved that PIF. 783 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 4: My DJ class we were like, Yo, what the fuck 784 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 4: y'all fucking our shit up? Like we want to go 785 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 4: to fucking mix unit where we're selling them for you know, 786 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 4: where they're buying boxes off of us and we're selling. 787 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: Do you think that's a little hypocritical though, Well, because 788 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 1: if you look at let's say, Scott's Limit, I don't 789 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: know who produced that, but Mike Jones and that producer, 790 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: I could say, was looking at y'all like y'all were 791 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: looking at that PIF. That's my beat, and now you're 792 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: making money off something without any publishing, any contract. 793 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 2: And then. 794 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: Get your pH bous thank you. 795 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 3: You know. 796 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 4: Then I started getting calls. 797 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,320 Speaker 3: Then I started getting calls. 798 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 4: You know, my man Tech who manages uh two chains 799 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 4: called me and was like, yo, Live Mixtapes wants to 800 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 4: reach out to you. 801 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 3: Didn't want to have a convo and want to talk. 802 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 3: So then I went into a deal with. 803 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 4: Live Mixtapes where I was like exclusively dropping tapes on 804 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,280 Speaker 4: their platform. Then that pit reached out to me and said, hey, listen, 805 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 4: come on over here, we'll offer you X, Y and Z. 806 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 4: I probably made more money during the that PIF era 807 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 4: than I made during my early mixtape errors because that 808 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 4: PIF was literally paying me monthly a salary. So if 809 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 4: anyone did a gangster grills, it had to drop exclusively 810 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 4: on that PIF. Then they started cutting real checks. So 811 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 4: first they were cutting they were cutting checks to DJs, 812 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 4: and then they started cutting checks to artists. 813 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 3: Ye all that, and so let me just back up 814 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 3: a little bit. 815 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 4: So then at the around the time that the raid happened, 816 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 4: you know, the the the blogs, the bloger sphere were 817 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 4: becoming the new mixtapes like two Dope Boys now right, 818 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 4: rap Radar, that's where people started to get their new 819 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 4: music from instead of mixtapes. So it was then it 820 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 4: was it went into that space they became the new mixtapes, 821 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 4: and then this whole crop of new artists came out 822 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 4: where they were putting on mixtapes without DJs. Yeah, Cole, Kendrick, Drake, 823 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,319 Speaker 4: Wile a Whiz and sometimes a few of them at 824 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 4: some point used DJs. But then they were also you know, 825 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 4: Cushion OJ so far Gone, like you know Section eighty, 826 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 4: like those were all mixtapes in a sense that we're mixtapes, 827 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 4: but they didn't have DJs. So I feel like a 828 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 4: phoenix erose from the raid, and you know, literally the 829 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 4: mixtape business became even bigger than ever. Like the money 830 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 4: that that PIF was and a lot of mixtapes started 831 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 4: throwing around to artists and the rappers was insane, like 832 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 4: I was making I was making crazy money during that time. 833 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 3: And then Drake went and. 834 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 4: Did, if you're reading this, what's called If you're reading this, 835 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 4: it's too late, and he put it on the DSPs. 836 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 4: That's where everyone. 837 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: Which was originally supposed to be a djal against the 838 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 1: Grills tape. 839 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,439 Speaker 4: There were talks, we did have talks about it being 840 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 4: real safe and even before all that future, the Prince 841 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,720 Speaker 4: reached out to me and because of Drake the brand 842 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 4: and the business. He was just like, look, we're not 843 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 4: We would love we wanted it to be against the grills, 844 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 4: but when it comes to Drake, there's so much money involved, 845 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 4: whether it's with the producers or writers or label that 846 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 4: they weren't able, like the way that tapes were dropping 847 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 4: before that. Yeah, you know if it's crazy, because if 848 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 4: the times were now, it would have made sense like 849 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 4: what I did with Tyler, but because it was new at. 850 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 3: The time, they were like, we can't. 851 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 4: It's just too much business involved in it where we 852 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:54,799 Speaker 4: have to do it this way. 853 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: And if you know what I'm saying, it would almost 854 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: kill it because it would be sold. And it's like 855 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: Gangster Girl was supposed to be free at that time, 856 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: exactly what against what the whole shit was. 857 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and like you said, hypocritical, Like yo, after the raid, 858 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 4: I started giving away free mixtapes I didn't sell. I'm like, here, 859 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,239 Speaker 4: I'm not doing this for the money, like I was 860 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,880 Speaker 4: loving making the money, but I'm going back to for 861 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 4: promotional news only. Let's put him out. However, we put 862 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 4: him out. So once Drake went to the DSPs with 863 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 4: a quote unquote mixtape project, then everyone followed suit, and 864 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,719 Speaker 4: that was when the streaming error came and then the 865 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 4: lines got crossed. 866 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,560 Speaker 1: It also killed the first album because you have artists 867 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: that put out three projects on DSPs and then it's like, 868 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: here's my debut. 869 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,239 Speaker 3: Right, and then sold the first three. 870 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: It's not a. 871 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 4: Mixtape exactly, So then then the lines got crossed where 872 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 4: the word mixtape just became a word used, so the 873 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 4: pressure of the album. 874 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 3: Exactly didn't come. 875 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: You say, the street record. 876 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 4: Exactly, so you could put a mixtape, but it's you 877 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 4: still this during my era, like the fascination of it is, 878 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 4: we didn't have to cross our t's and dot our 879 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 4: eyes and do all the paperwork and Wayne could just 880 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 4: wrap on any fucking beat structure put it out like 881 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 4: it was the wild wild West, you know. Once the 882 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 4: DSPs came along, then every even if it was a mixtape, 883 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 4: you still had to do the same paperwork as you 884 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 4: would for an album, you know. So people were literally 885 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 4: just throwing the word around just you know, hey, this 886 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 4: is my mixtape, so don't feel like this is my 887 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 4: album and hold me to the numbers or what have you. 888 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: Side notecause I do want to get back to the 889 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 1: drinking in a second, when we were talking about like 890 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: the DJ Union coalition all coming together for Wiz and 891 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,600 Speaker 1: all that. Of course Hindsight's twenty twenty, was there any 892 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: talks of DJ's coming together to start what is now 893 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 1: dat piff? Like you guys did have the control over that, 894 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: whereas that PIF shouldn't be paying y'all. That could have 895 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: been y'all shit. 896 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 4: I always felt like, damn, like I could have did this, 897 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 4: like we're doing a shot to my man, KP. Great guy. 898 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 4: You know that piff. I made a lot of money 899 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,879 Speaker 4: with that piff and I do appreciate them, But yeah, 900 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 4: I thought about it like, damn. Imagine if I would 901 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:25,479 Speaker 4: have created drama like the DJ dot com and had 902 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 4: that space where, you know, instead of me, instead of 903 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,720 Speaker 4: that piff paying me to drop the tapes on their site, 904 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 4: I took all the traction and all the ad revenue 905 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 4: and had my site where it was like organgstergrills dot com, 906 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,919 Speaker 4: where it was like you want a gangst the grills, Okay, 907 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 4: we got to put it out this way. And who knows, 908 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 4: you know, if if that PIF was literally paying me 909 00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 4: thirty grand a month, like imagine what they were making 910 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 4: where I'm thinking about damn if imagine if I had 911 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 4: my own platform, where was mine? And and you know, 912 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 4: flex tried to flex did it to an extent, I 913 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 4: thought that, like shot to Karen Civil too with her assistance, 914 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 4: with how she did in flexwitrust dot com, like I felt. 915 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 3: Like he he he. 916 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,840 Speaker 4: Got the closest to doing it, but absolutely, like I 917 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 4: thought about that all the time during that era, Like, damn, 918 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,959 Speaker 4: imagine if I would have really created my platform where 919 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,160 Speaker 4: I was the one where you would drop a gangster 920 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 4: grills and I was getting the ad revenues and the 921 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 4: type of money that I would have seen. 922 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 2: Aside from if you're reading this is too late obviously 923 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 2: being Drake, what's one artist that you really really because 924 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 2: I feel like the Tyler album now, I feel like 925 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 2: now you can do that. It's not just Rat. I 926 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 2: feel like you can do a Jazmine Sullivan. I feel 927 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:57,720 Speaker 2: like you can do. 928 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: Her factangs drops on hotels. 929 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 4: And stuff like that, like Verdic like Verdici terrorists, Like 930 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 4: when if you hear me on Verdi Terrorists is like 931 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 4: I used a very calm voice on Yeah, or Chris 932 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 4: Brown in My Zone or Jeremiah Late Night, Like so 933 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:15,799 Speaker 4: I've done. 934 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 3: I've done him in that lane. 935 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 4: So yeah, like there's no there's there's no artist that 936 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 4: I personally that I can't you know, put my bells 937 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 4: and whistles on. 938 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,160 Speaker 1: Have you had to say? Notice somebody though, and you're 939 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: a really nice person. Your name shouldn't be DJ Drama. 940 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: You're actually a great guy. 941 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 3: I appreciate this. 942 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: It's really I met you for the first time, I 943 00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: was like, there's nothing drama about this. It's like such 944 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 1: a good person. 945 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 3: It's been the gift. It's so crazy. 946 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,879 Speaker 4: I really feel like when I chose that name, God 947 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,279 Speaker 4: like winked at me, like, oh, I got you. Like 948 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 4: it's been the gift in the curse of my name 949 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 4: because I've I've had my share of drama in my career, 950 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 4: you know, Like, yeah, I definitely feel like I'm a 951 00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 4: kind hearted, very humble person, especially of a man of 952 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 4: my stature in the business. 953 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 2: Sure, almost too humble. Let me just put that out. 954 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 4: You. 955 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 2: You have a roster and you have and the numbers 956 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 2: to really be out here. 957 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 4: I can talk crazy and I do it times, but 958 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 4: you know, even my team has to be like, bro, 959 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 4: your your DJ Drama, like like get on your ship, 960 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 4: you know, what I'm saying. So you know, I'm I'm 961 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 4: I might be too humble at times, like I'm really 962 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 4: that guy, like you know, and. 963 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 2: There you go, I like, let me smoke to that, 964 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 2: like please. 965 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:34,120 Speaker 4: Do like like I'm really like that, Like there's like okay, 966 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 4: like let's talk versus like bring it on. I don't 967 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 4: give a fuck who you want, Like I'm I'm with 968 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 4: all the smoke. So so have I ever said no? 969 00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 4: And I've said I've said now. Wow came to me 970 00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 4: at the time, friend of and I would like, what's 971 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:08,280 Speaker 4: crazy is? I remember his DJ was shot him early 972 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,760 Speaker 4: on now these days for new addition, and when Gangster 973 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 4: Grills first, like was coming up, I went to shot 974 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 4: him like yo, I want to do a bow Wow 975 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 4: Gangster Grills and it didn't happen. 976 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 3: And then bow Wow came to me. 977 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: Well, year are we talking? What is this lil bow Wow? 978 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 4: This is like this was in a It was in 979 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 4: a time where I felt like I wasn't able to 980 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 4: give bow the tape because of I felt like the brain, 981 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 4: you know, because of where the brand was. I was 982 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 4: a little nervous on how how it would be taken 983 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 4: in a sense. 984 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 3: So this was in it. This had to be. 985 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 4: It was in between twenty ten and twenty fifteen around 986 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 4: that time. 987 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:53,919 Speaker 2: Okay, so. 988 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,960 Speaker 4: You know, and I didn't necessarily tell him no. And 989 00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 4: that's my guy, like Bow's my guy legend. Yeah, he's 990 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 4: a fucking legend in so many. 991 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:03,840 Speaker 1: Ways hip hops forum. 992 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 3: He's seen everything, and he's and touched a lot. 993 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 994 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so salute the Bow. 995 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 4: Now, there are projects that I was supposed to be 996 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 4: a part of that I that I wasn't that, you know, 997 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 4: I don't want to say regret, but yeah, like damn, 998 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:29,400 Speaker 4: I missed out on that, which Drake definitely wanted the 999 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:35,839 Speaker 4: gangster grills early on. You know, I think he still 1000 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 4: kind of might feel a way about. 1001 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 2: That and about not getting one. 1002 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean I didn't want to 1003 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:44,880 Speaker 1: get into that whole thing. We can get into it 1004 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 1: now after yeah, you answer the no question. 1005 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,320 Speaker 3: You know, I mean, listen, he's had an illustrious career. 1006 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure not too shabby. 1007 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 4: He hasn't done too bad for himself, So I'm sure. 1008 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 3: He's he's cool without having against the grills. 1009 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 2: But but Drake is a hip hop hit first one. 1010 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 3: I feel like I did a DJ small Southern Smoke tape. 1011 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 1: So all the comeback season is dillabates like he's one. 1012 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,040 Speaker 4: Of those like yeah, there was a time in the 1013 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 4: space where you know he he did and you know, 1014 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 4: I can admit it, I kind of fronted so like 1015 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,239 Speaker 4: as did a lot of people when he him when 1016 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 4: it came to doing it, I didn't, We didn't. We 1017 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 4: didn't do a tape. 1018 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 3: You know. 1019 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 4: So this I'm talking about like seven o eight ish early, yeah, early, 1020 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 4: you know, Nikki beat me up. Scotty was supposed to 1021 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:41,240 Speaker 4: be against the grills. Wow, Travis, Uh what is it before? 1022 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 1: Days before Scotty would make a lot of sense for 1023 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 1: that was. 1024 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,920 Speaker 4: Supposed to that was supposed to be against the grills 1025 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 4: and then and I was with it. Her manager, Miss 1026 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:58,399 Speaker 4: Deb at the time basically felt like I was more 1027 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 4: team g zy so and at the time Holliday was, 1028 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 4: you know, kind of. 1029 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 3: Part of their camp. 1030 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1031 00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 4: So Deb convinced Nicky to do the tap with Holiday, 1032 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 4: and you know, I kind of to be I don't, 1033 00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 4: to be honest, I didn't fight for it, so you know, 1034 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 4: I'm sure if I would have liked been like yeah, no, no, no, 1035 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 4: fucked that, Like I'm doing it but so I kind 1036 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 4: of let that one go. 1037 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:25,919 Speaker 3: I regret that. 1038 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 1: Of course it worked for Nicky and Drake. I don't 1039 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 1: mean it in that way. 1040 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,480 Speaker 4: But I mean imagine if that was part of the 1041 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 4: Gangster Grills Crazy, it would have been crazy, but Scott, 1042 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,439 Speaker 4: that would have been that. That's that's definitely one. 1043 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 1: Who knows if we get so far gone the same way. 1044 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:43,000 Speaker 1: Let's say the Gangster Grills Drake mixtape goes crazy. Now 1045 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:47,359 Speaker 1: Drake is pigeonholed into whatever sound y'all did for that 1046 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: that's happened before. 1047 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 3: I think you would have been all right regardless, I 1048 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:50,520 Speaker 3: do too. 1049 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 1: But I'm saying I don't know if we get so 1050 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 1: far gone the same way, because if you see some 1051 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 1: success in a certain area in a fan base, sometimes 1052 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 1: you have to lean into it go back to it. 1053 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 1: So who knows if Drake would have had to do 1054 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: that than, like you almost sing a lot, so far 1055 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: going is going to be the better eight awaits. 1056 00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,439 Speaker 3: So you're saying I did him a favor. 1057 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 2: Yes, you did the culture of favorite drums. 1058 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 1: What we're saying the higher power less. 1059 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 3: Oh, then there was supposed to be a Drake and Gucci. 1060 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:15,960 Speaker 1: Tape that would have been crazy. Oh, when he had 1061 00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 1: first came home. 1062 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 3: Gucci was was Gucci home yet? 1063 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 1: Because they did that record right when he came home. 1064 00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 4: Well, remember they there was like three records they did 1065 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 4: because they wound up on our tape. They wound up 1066 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:29,239 Speaker 4: on on the Remember he did the he did the 1067 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,879 Speaker 4: three Cold War series. It was one with me, one 1068 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 4: with Scream, and one with another DJ, and then the 1069 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 4: three Drake records wound up. We're on my tape because 1070 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 4: you know, the first time Drake and Gucci had ever spoken, 1071 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:44,760 Speaker 4: I put them on the phone together. 1072 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 3: We were on a three way call. I never forget. 1073 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,240 Speaker 4: I think I was in Pittsburgh at the time, and 1074 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 4: I got Drake and Gucci on the phone. 1075 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:52,360 Speaker 3: They talked. 1076 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 4: Drake told go out how much you know he was 1077 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,359 Speaker 4: a fan of his, and yeah, they talked about doing it. 1078 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,800 Speaker 4: We were gonna to do a Gangster girls together and 1079 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 4: it Uh, it didn't come out for some other reasons 1080 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 4: that I won't I won't dive into on camera. But 1081 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,839 Speaker 4: and then I'm thinking, there's there's there's another one. 1082 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:14,400 Speaker 3: I'm missing. 1083 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 4: Love Is Rage was supposed to be a gangst the Grills, 1084 00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 4: but we chose as a team as Generation now to 1085 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 4: not to do that, to not do that without me, 1086 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 4: because honestly, when that project came out was right in 1087 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 4: the midst of the Drake and Meek situation. So we're like, listen, 1088 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 4: we don't want even like let vert And I think 1089 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 4: it worked out for. 1090 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,440 Speaker 1: I was about to say that lended itself just to 1091 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,239 Speaker 1: be a project itself. Yeah, that's a good executive goal, 1092 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,040 Speaker 1: rather than for sure. 1093 00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 4: Jack Harlow has definitely taken me off. I've done a 1094 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,480 Speaker 4: lot of a lot of talking and drops for a 1095 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 4: Harlow project and have gotten removed. 1096 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 3: But hey, it worked out so well. 1097 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 2: The whole Drake and Meek thing. Yeah, I know you 1098 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 2: have relationships with both of them, obviously, and you've probably 1099 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 2: talked about this a thousand times, but thousand and one 1100 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,600 Speaker 2: the whole Drake Meek situation. You know that, You're just 1101 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 2: that there's a little situation that happened a few years 1102 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 2: ago that may have familiar changed the entire trajectory of 1103 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 2: a lot of situations in our culture. 1104 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,959 Speaker 3: I've heard about that. I've heard about that. 1105 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:37,440 Speaker 2: Your position in that whole thing, yeah, I don't know 1106 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 2: if you've ever really talked in depth about it. I have, 1107 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:46,439 Speaker 2: but looking at things now, do you feel like your 1108 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 2: role was as big as it seemed at first? In 1109 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 2: that situation? 1110 00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 3: I had a role. What can I say that hasn't 1111 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 3: been said? Yes? 1112 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 1: Has accountability been said? 1113 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 4: Absolutely, I've taken accountability from my role in it. 1114 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 1: Have you called both of them sensitive on camera as well? 1115 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 3: Say that again? 1116 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 1: Have you called both of them sensitive on camera as well? 1117 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 3: No, I've never called both of them sensitive. 1118 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm sensitive. 1119 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:19,800 Speaker 2: I'm just. 1120 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 5: An insult I I've had me and Drake have definitely 1121 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:36,200 Speaker 5: had direct conversations about it, you know, offline, you know, 1122 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 5: and I've I've taken accountability. 1123 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 1: What was the first Drake conversation? 1124 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 3: Like the first Drake conversation? 1125 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 1: And how did it happen? 1126 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 3: The first? Actually it was. 1127 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:57,960 Speaker 4: It was twenty eighteen, and it was after Meek and 1128 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:03,920 Speaker 4: Drake came out together. And I actually I wound up 1129 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 4: at forty forty club with Meek, and I told I, say, 1130 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 4: you'll call that nigga right now put me on the 1131 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 4: phone with him, like yeah, I'm not gonna like, you know, 1132 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 4: because I watched it all happen, and I'm like, so 1133 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 4: meet called Drake and you know. 1134 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 1: And don't you hate when friends that were beefing become 1135 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: friends again. 1136 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 3: You feel like your friends again. Drake was my guy, 1137 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,280 Speaker 3: like you know, we were like we was good. 1138 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 4: Like anytime I would go to Toronto, like he would 1139 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 4: come to the club, but we'd go out to eat 1140 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 4: or you know, I went to multiple OVO fests and like, 1141 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 4: you know, that was really my guy. So you know, 1142 00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 4: Meek put me in a line of fire, you know 1143 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And again I've taken accountability for it, 1144 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 4: you know. But yeah, the first convo was you know, 1145 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 4: Meek FaceTime and Drake and and me getting on the phone, 1146 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,920 Speaker 4: and I think it was around Drake's birthday and you know, 1147 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 4: like we spoke, we chopped it up and you know 1148 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 4: said us up, up, us up. 1149 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 3: And then uh later on you know, through d MS, 1150 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 3: you know, we we. 1151 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 4: Had some some some small talk just about you know, 1152 00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,520 Speaker 4: you know, me owning up to you know, the the 1153 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:30,680 Speaker 4: the the the the my my part and how everything 1154 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 4: you know trans transpired and you know a lot of 1155 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 4: it honestly too, is I mean like unfortunately, you know 1156 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,959 Speaker 4: the person that like suffered the most was was Quentin. 1157 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 1: You know, and like my next question spoken to him before. 1158 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, I've spoken to Quentin on numerous occasions, 1159 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 4: and you know, I mean, I definitely like and even 1160 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 4: my my Qrarel would meet at the time, like was like, yo, bro, 1161 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 4: like you're just you're not only thing you're thinking about 1162 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 4: is yourself, Like you're messing with this man's livelihood, you 1163 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like you're not thinking about like 1164 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 4: how that's going to affect like his life, you know 1165 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and like his trajectory within what he's 1166 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,320 Speaker 4: trying to accomplish, you know, all for your own personal gain, 1167 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 4: you know. And again it's touchy for me to talk 1168 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 4: about it because it's water under the bridge and everybody 1169 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:33,120 Speaker 4: has made amends. But yeah, also you know, you know, 1170 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,040 Speaker 4: my career thrive, Drake's career thrived. Meek went on to 1171 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,680 Speaker 4: you know, do his thing, and it's like, you know, 1172 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 4: Quinton was put in a situation where, you know, out 1173 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 4: of everybody, he lost the most, and. 1174 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 1: I think handled it the best as far as public 1175 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 1: let me put it like this, I don't know, by 1176 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 1: the scenes and Quentin Miller publicly, I felt like Quentin 1177 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 1: mind of his fucking business. 1178 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 2: And not only that, Quentin Miller didn't do anything wrong. 1179 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 2: And he's a talented. 1180 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 4: Listen, everybody did something wrong, Okay, everybody. Quentin did something wrong. 1181 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 4: DJ Drama did something wrong, Drake did something wrong, Meek 1182 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:17,360 Speaker 4: Mill did something wrong. Nicki Minaj did something wrong. Like 1183 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 4: everybody played a role, and we can sit here today 1184 01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 4: and talk about it and listen everyone I named I 1185 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 4: love y'all to death, like you know what I'm saying, 1186 01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 4: And I hope no one takes this the wrong way. 1187 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 4: And again, it's water under the bridge. It went down. 1188 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 4: You know, it was a hip hop moment, you know 1189 01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like it's hip hop history, and you know, 1190 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 4: like there's a lot that I've you know, those guys 1191 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:50,360 Speaker 4: have gotten to tell their true side of their stories. 1192 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,040 Speaker 4: Like you know, I've gone on drink Champs, I've discussed 1193 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 4: I've gone on ebro, I've disgusted, talked about it with Angie, 1194 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 4: I talked about it rap radars. So you know, you 1195 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 4: can go through since twenty fifteen and hear sound bites 1196 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 4: at various times of you know, how I felt or 1197 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,240 Speaker 4: what I've said. But there's also a lot, a lot 1198 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 4: that I've held back on for sure and haven't put 1199 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:24,160 Speaker 4: out there one day, will it all make sense maybe, 1200 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 4: but you know, maybe some things are just left to 1201 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 4: be untold, you know what I'm saying. And you know, 1202 01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 4: like everybody played a role in how it went down, 1203 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and nobody nobody is like 1204 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 4: was all the way, Like. 1205 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 2: Just in a sense, do you still have a relationship 1206 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:45,720 Speaker 2: with Quentin though? 1207 01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 3: I do? I mean Quentin. 1208 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 4: When me, Drake and Jack took the picture at Kentucky Derby. 1209 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,040 Speaker 2: Quentin took it. I was about to say, drama, a 1210 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 2: sick nigga. 1211 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 1: Quentin and Kentucky that was like a reality show. 1212 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 4: I don't know if it was on my page or 1213 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,720 Speaker 4: if it was on one of the socials that reposted it, 1214 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 4: but he did. He did make a comment, so I think, 1215 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 4: you know, he may have felt the way, but I've 1216 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,960 Speaker 4: also was the comment like I've had many conversations with 1217 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,960 Speaker 4: Quinton over the years where you know, Quentin himself has 1218 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,160 Speaker 4: told me like yo, drama like through it all, like 1219 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:42,480 Speaker 4: I respect you and I appreciate you, and you know 1220 01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 4: that he doesn't hold me responsible for how things transpired. 1221 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,960 Speaker 4: So you know, I'm sure when he saw Drake and 1222 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,080 Speaker 4: Meek make up, you know, it was like damn, Like 1223 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 4: when they went through all we went through all this, 1224 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:06,240 Speaker 4: and again like he was the one like kind of 1225 01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 4: left out in the cole respectfully. 1226 01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:09,480 Speaker 3: You know, and. 1227 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 4: Yeah when he saw me and Drake and Jack take 1228 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 4: the picture, like you know, he might have felt the 1229 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,720 Speaker 4: type of way And I get it, you know, from 1230 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:25,439 Speaker 4: his from his standpoint. Like again, like if we talk 1231 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 4: about me, Drake, Meek and Quinton, like there's three people 1232 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,920 Speaker 4: that that's career since then have has gone on and 1233 01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 4: just elevated. And then you know, Quinton was put in 1234 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,120 Speaker 4: a you know, a tough spot. 1235 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,400 Speaker 1: So what do you feel he was blackballed or maybe 1236 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 1: just didn't capitalize on the opportunity as far as eyes 1237 01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:50,920 Speaker 1: being on him of course, putting a weird situation to 1238 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,160 Speaker 1: begin with. So I'm not even going to begin to 1239 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 1: play Monday morning quarterback on how he should have handled that, 1240 01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 1: but to some degree that not even some of the 1241 01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:04,080 Speaker 1: three y'all were already established crazy right, Quentin was an 1242 01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:08,160 Speaker 1: up and coming artist and writer, right, So of course 1243 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 1: that helped and didn't help. But yeah, we get our opportunities, 1244 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 1: and you know that's how that's. 1245 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 4: How I met Quentin because we were you know, we 1246 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:19,760 Speaker 4: were interested in signing his group, the wedding Crashers, you know, 1247 01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 4: so it wasn't you know, my my relationship with him 1248 01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 4: wasn't malicious by any means, yea, And it got painted 1249 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 4: that way, you know, and like, you know, I got, 1250 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 4: you know, I got a lot of fingers pointed in 1251 01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 4: me like I was the bad guy, and it was like, 1252 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:41,200 Speaker 4: you know, I made a mistake by telling my homeboys 1253 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 4: something that I shouldn't have, you know, and he handled 1254 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 4: it the way he handled it, you know what I'm saying. 1255 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 4: But like I you know, I felt like I you know, 1256 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 4: I got, I got a lot of the butt of the. 1257 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:59,800 Speaker 3: Of the you know, the of the situation, like you. 1258 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,480 Speaker 4: Know, like and again like I said, I've I've I've 1259 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 4: taken accountability and you know my role, and you know 1260 01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,240 Speaker 4: we've all moved on since then. But yeah, like if 1261 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:14,680 Speaker 4: the story was ever really told, the hell of a 1262 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,000 Speaker 4: hip hop story. 1263 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 1: Well, you know, eventually in thirty years is going to 1264 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 1: because we learned everything about the Big and POC ship. 1265 01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 1: If you just go on YouTube right now, right every 1266 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,720 Speaker 1: last person that just happened to be around, you're still like. 1267 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,320 Speaker 3: The people, yeah, the names that I'm not saying. 1268 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:35,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that well it's gonna I want to kick it 1269 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 2: with me, Like we can just talk right here, right now. 1270 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 2: It's just us man microphone. 1271 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot deeper than 1272 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,360 Speaker 4: those four names. Let's just put it like that. 1273 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,800 Speaker 2: I believe it. I've heard, I've heard rumbling literally, you know, 1274 01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:52,000 Speaker 2: and it's unfortunate and it I understand it shouldn't have happened. 1275 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 4: But yeah, a lot, a lot of a lot of 1276 01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 4: hip hop's hip hop's finests were had their ears and 1277 01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,360 Speaker 4: eyes and in phones. 1278 01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,040 Speaker 1: What's okay since y'all are playing double Dutch thirty for 1279 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,760 Speaker 1: thirty freestyle. Yeah, when everyone thought he was talking about Meek, 1280 01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 1: he was clearly talking about Hope, So stop double about 1281 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:19,480 Speaker 1: what ho It's all about jay Z on that and 1282 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:21,680 Speaker 1: that's not insider information. I'm just not stupid. I can 1283 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,560 Speaker 1: I can go to rap Genius and read what he wrote. 1284 01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what you what are you getting at? 1285 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 1: I think the powers that be that were not added 1286 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: into this go as high as Hove and what the 1287 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,160 Speaker 1: strategy was with this entity that Drake was that took 1288 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:39,760 Speaker 1: over the music industry, and I think they saw this 1289 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 1: as an opportunity to try to lower the light of 1290 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:48,080 Speaker 1: somebody that had completely taken over. I don't think it 1291 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:49,720 Speaker 1: was a strike. I don't think it was like some 1292 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,280 Speaker 1: coordinated shit. I really do think Meek probably just tweeted 1293 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:53,880 Speaker 1: that shit in his crib, like, yo, what the fuck? 1294 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 1: They saw that? And it was top It's just my 1295 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 1: no insider information, this is just my theory. But it 1296 01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:02,200 Speaker 1: sounds like inside and out. Sounds like he was on 1297 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,040 Speaker 1: the inside the hole and I are not that cool 1298 01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,120 Speaker 1: where he'd be like, yo, I was behind it, by 1299 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:07,880 Speaker 1: the way, with people would never do that. 1300 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,040 Speaker 4: What what never gets discussed is is that before the 1301 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:18,759 Speaker 4: tweets came out, me tweeted a month or six weeks 1302 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 4: earlier than that. These niggas don't write. They wraps something 1303 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 4: something something. 1304 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,720 Speaker 1: Pusha had made note, so Kendrick had made note. There 1305 01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,720 Speaker 1: was rumblings so like. 1306 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:37,679 Speaker 4: And you know, Drake is another student of the game. 1307 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,480 Speaker 4: He knows and sees and watches everything. 1308 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:43,639 Speaker 1: So one of the more calculated people on planyet. 1309 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,519 Speaker 3: He plays chess, not checkers at all times. 1310 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,479 Speaker 4: And if not, he first tweeted it before he name 1311 01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:59,200 Speaker 4: dropped m You don't think Drake saw that and was like, oh, okay, 1312 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:03,360 Speaker 4: I know its going on, so you know, back to 1313 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,000 Speaker 4: the powers that be, you. 1314 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:09,519 Speaker 3: Know, I mean, like I said, man, it's a lot 1315 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,639 Speaker 3: to it. We could be here for a while. 1316 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 1: Do we think hip hop was better off for it though? 1317 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 1: Because I think it was as messy as a moment 1318 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 1: as it was for everyone else as just a fan, 1319 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 1: as a fan of. 1320 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 3: The culture, Like you know, we needed that. 1321 01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,760 Speaker 2: You know, I hate that it happened because it was 1322 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:25,840 Speaker 2: a lot of person ship, but. 1323 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,800 Speaker 4: It was you know, it was the closest we had 1324 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 4: to nas and whole sense like yeah, you know, and 1325 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 4: like back to Back was a fucking smash record that 1326 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,479 Speaker 4: played in the club, like you know, you had to 1327 01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:48,439 Speaker 4: like power you know, humongous figures within the culture, Meek 1328 01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 4: who was a representation of the streets, and Drake who 1329 01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,960 Speaker 4: was like you know, who what did he say? You're 1330 01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 4: getting bodied by a singing nigga? Like who also was 1331 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 4: a fucking you know, this amazing spinner, you know what 1332 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 4: I'm saying, And like, you know, I always told people 1333 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,280 Speaker 4: like yo, like, first of all, like give that man 1334 01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 4: credit for even being able to hear bars from Quentin 1335 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:22,559 Speaker 4: Miller and to see how dope they are. Like a 1336 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 4: lot of people wouldn't even be able to do that. 1337 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:28,400 Speaker 4: They would have seen this nerdy kid that you know 1338 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,560 Speaker 4: however whatever, and they wouldn't have even recognized his dopeness. 1339 01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 4: So give Drake the credit for that. And on top 1340 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:38,120 Speaker 4: of that, like, let's not act like Drake's pen isn't 1341 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,880 Speaker 4: fucking one of the best that we've ever seen in 1342 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,000 Speaker 4: the game far. 1343 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:43,160 Speaker 3: He's a busy man. 1344 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,799 Speaker 1: I listened to that energy leak and I like Quintin's 1345 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:49,160 Speaker 1: like his own music. I heard that reference, and I'm like, 1346 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,559 Speaker 1: how the fuck did Drake hear that this would be dope? 1347 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 4: You feel what I'm saying, Like, give that man the 1348 01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 4: credit for even being able to like, no, like to 1349 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 4: even hear the the dopeness in Quentin Miller. A lot 1350 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,599 Speaker 4: of people wouldn't have been able to do that. They 1351 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,719 Speaker 4: would have looked right past it, you feel what I'm saying. 1352 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,880 Speaker 4: And like, like again, like, let's not question Drake's pen Like, 1353 01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:16,040 Speaker 4: Drake's pen is like it's one of the greatest. 1354 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,719 Speaker 2: And in the midst of all of that, I always 1355 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:23,480 Speaker 2: remind people he gave us hotline Blink. In the mix of. 1356 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:26,439 Speaker 3: All that, he put a smashed record. 1357 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, wasn't that in the three pack. Charged up. 1358 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:34,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was charged up and there was a hotlineh 1359 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:34,799 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 1360 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,240 Speaker 1: You know, God's playing with similar to with a diplomatic community. 1361 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:41,200 Speaker 4: Like like you know when when we all when we 1362 01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:42,960 Speaker 4: look back on it, it was a hell of a 1363 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,120 Speaker 4: hip hop moment. 1364 01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,479 Speaker 3: You know, and it was you know, I took a 1365 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:47,040 Speaker 3: lot of heat. 1366 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:51,920 Speaker 4: Like for years my social media, I would have to 1367 01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,559 Speaker 4: listen to the to the comments or you know, or 1368 01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:00,519 Speaker 4: or however whatever, but my my skin is so thick, 1369 01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:02,720 Speaker 4: like none of that shit gets to me, you know 1370 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,519 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. And you know, after it happened, like 1371 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,120 Speaker 4: Generation Now we had amazing success with a littl uzi vert, 1372 01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:13,680 Speaker 4: and you know, I was on to you know, I'm 1373 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,600 Speaker 4: gonna be here like I've been here. I'm here and 1374 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be here. Like it's the one thing about it, 1375 01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:25,880 Speaker 4: like through all of it, through draking me, through Gez 1376 01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 4: and Gucci, through me getting the fuck it's a little 1377 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,799 Speaker 4: different than getting the reco charge. Like, yeah, I've been 1378 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:36,839 Speaker 4: through Vert trying to you know, throw dirt on Generation 1379 01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:37,879 Speaker 4: Now's name. 1380 01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,679 Speaker 3: Like yeah, listen, man, like it's cool. 1381 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 4: I'm from the cloth, like I've been doing this shit 1382 01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:45,640 Speaker 4: since I was fucking thirteen. 1383 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,760 Speaker 2: White relationship at now with you and Vert all, we in. 1384 01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:49,639 Speaker 3: A great space. Man. 1385 01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw, but we all, you know, 1386 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 4: we all took a picture together the BT Awards, myself 1387 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,559 Speaker 4: Lake Cannon is like Rick, so he doesn't leave his house. 1388 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:05,040 Speaker 4: He's like a gardener, so he wasn't there, but said 1389 01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 4: he Vert, Sonny Jack, we all took it. 1390 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:10,519 Speaker 3: We all took a pick together. 1391 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:15,360 Speaker 4: Uh oh and yeah, you know, so you know, we've 1392 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 4: you know, Cannon has been back in the studio with Vert. 1393 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 4: Uh they worked on the most recent project together. You know, 1394 01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:26,240 Speaker 4: we've we've you know, we've been talking to Vert, you know, 1395 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:31,120 Speaker 4: consistently for the last like six seven eight months per se. 1396 01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 4: So and it's dope. It's a good feeling, you know 1397 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,600 Speaker 4: what I mean. Like, you know, we went what we 1398 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 4: went through. You know, it was it became public, but 1399 01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,439 Speaker 4: you know that happens between family, like and one of 1400 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,479 Speaker 4: the reasons why it was like it was a tough 1401 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,960 Speaker 4: spot for us is because you know, vert success was 1402 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,200 Speaker 4: our success, you know what I'm saying. So you know, 1403 01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:58,680 Speaker 4: instead of like necessarily coming out and feeling like we 1404 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,120 Speaker 4: wanted to defend ourselves because we took a lot of heat, 1405 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,640 Speaker 4: like you know, it was like generation now, you know. 1406 01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,800 Speaker 4: And even even with the rock Nation situation like rock 1407 01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 4: Nation was was was put in the media as if 1408 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:13,680 Speaker 4: they saved the little. 1409 01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,919 Speaker 3: Uzi vert's career. And you know from I didn't. 1410 01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,960 Speaker 1: Gather that what Okay, I don't look at press releases. 1411 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:25,240 Speaker 4: It was a free Uzi campaign and yeah, and then 1412 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 4: it came rock Nation saves little Uzzi saves him from? Who? 1413 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:34,720 Speaker 4: From three young black men that met in college at 1414 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 4: Clarkland and Morehouse, who grew up on hip hop, who 1415 01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 4: were best friends, who then came into the game, changed 1416 01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,880 Speaker 4: the game and then created a label like huh, we're 1417 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,759 Speaker 4: not culture vultures, like we are the epitome of the dream? 1418 01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,840 Speaker 4: Like what did y'all save him from? We didn't do 1419 01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,040 Speaker 4: nothing wrong by that kid. We all we did was 1420 01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:59,880 Speaker 4: help make him a fucking superstar. Was an amazing man. 1421 01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:04,320 Speaker 4: Cannon was right there, you know with his sound. You know, 1422 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:08,280 Speaker 4: I was DJ Drama waving the Uzi flag. Where did 1423 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:13,439 Speaker 4: y'all save him from? Like it didn't have to go 1424 01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,439 Speaker 4: down like that. And you know, I love jay Z. 1425 01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:21,280 Speaker 4: I'm a He's He's in my top whatever rappers of 1426 01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:21,800 Speaker 4: all time. 1427 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:24,000 Speaker 3: And this is not necessarily. 1428 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:28,360 Speaker 4: A criticism of him per se, but yeah, like come 1429 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 4: on now, like huh, like why why was the spin? 1430 01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,720 Speaker 4: Rock Nation saves Little Uzi Vert's career, Like like yo, 1431 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,680 Speaker 4: like we're like, we're three young black men that like 1432 01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,160 Speaker 4: made it from cop from from DJing parties for one 1433 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,640 Speaker 4: hundred and fifty dollars to going on to having an 1434 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:51,120 Speaker 4: illustrious label after after Cannon makes some of the biggest 1435 01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:54,519 Speaker 4: records in hip hop, and after DJ Drama creates gangster 1436 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,200 Speaker 4: grills like don't don't paint us out to be the 1437 01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,839 Speaker 4: bad guys, get the fuck out of here with that bullshit? 1438 01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, do you feel they did that? Sometimes 1439 01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,400 Speaker 1: the artists can create that, because I think with Meg 1440 01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:07,280 Speaker 1: that's kind of been the pr stint as well with 1441 01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,800 Speaker 1: her prior production deal and then the rock Nation thing. 1442 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,760 Speaker 1: And I don't know who's behind all of this, but 1443 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:14,880 Speaker 1: that's just been the narrative. There's a lot of artists, 1444 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,479 Speaker 1: not just rock Nation per se. Right, but anytime someone 1445 01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 1: signs somewhere else, all. 1446 01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:23,479 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say is all I'm gonna say is that. 1447 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:31,599 Speaker 4: Little Uzi Verts contract was a very it's a fair 1448 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:41,160 Speaker 4: and there's there's nothing that we did on our side 1449 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:48,800 Speaker 4: that was like taking advantage of an artist or a 1450 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,160 Speaker 4: young kid trying to make it in the business. We 1451 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:56,200 Speaker 4: were three me, myself, Cannon, and Lake are three individuals 1452 01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:03,479 Speaker 4: that split our percentage three ways. Our percentage has always 1453 01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:09,320 Speaker 4: been less than little uzi Vert's percentage, so it's amazing. 1454 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,120 Speaker 4: I don't know any I don't want to speak on 1455 01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:15,040 Speaker 4: anybody else's contracts or whatever because that's not my business. 1456 01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,519 Speaker 4: But I know when it comes to our business, we 1457 01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,960 Speaker 4: do very good business and we do good bye people. 1458 01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:27,200 Speaker 4: Hence why even through throughout my dramas no pun intended, 1459 01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,840 Speaker 4: I've been able to get back up and move on 1460 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,840 Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, I'm a good guy. 1461 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,360 Speaker 4: Like I don't you know again, Like, yeah, the name 1462 01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,000 Speaker 4: has been the Gift and the curse, but like I'm 1463 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,880 Speaker 4: not out here fucking people. 1464 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 2: Did you Did you reach out to to Hove to 1465 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,360 Speaker 2: talk about that whole Uzivert situation. 1466 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,559 Speaker 4: No, I've never talked to Hove. I haven't I never 1467 01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:51,640 Speaker 4: and know of them reach out to me. 1468 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:57,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I think y'all should have a conversation. I love Hove, 1469 01:17:57,479 --> 01:18:00,320 Speaker 1: bro I love ho like I think they're needs. 1470 01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,559 Speaker 2: To be one of the most I mean, obviously that 1471 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:03,920 Speaker 2: didn't come from he was one of the. 1472 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,599 Speaker 3: Most inspiring people. 1473 01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,599 Speaker 1: But it's it's funny with in the genre. I'm minute conversation. 1474 01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:10,880 Speaker 3: Clear up, I love what. 1475 01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,360 Speaker 4: I love what he's you know what he's what he's 1476 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:19,200 Speaker 4: how he's elevated the game, Like who doesn't hold inspire 1477 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:19,880 Speaker 4: when it comes. 1478 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,639 Speaker 1: Did you have a conversation with Uzi before he signed 1479 01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:23,719 Speaker 1: with Rock Management? 1480 01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:23,960 Speaker 3: Was? 1481 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:24,800 Speaker 4: Uh? 1482 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:25,160 Speaker 3: No? 1483 01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,400 Speaker 2: So he just went ahead and did that? You had 1484 01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 2: You had no idea he was gonna go with them? 1485 01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,639 Speaker 3: We know that, didn't We weren't. We weren't really speaking 1486 01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:34,280 Speaker 3: at the time. 1487 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:37,639 Speaker 1: Prior to the free Uzi campaign ship, did you feel 1488 01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 1: any type of way of him going to Rock? 1489 01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:42,160 Speaker 2: No? 1490 01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:45,040 Speaker 3: I didn't. Again, it's not that I felt any type 1491 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,000 Speaker 3: of way. I just. 1492 01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 4: The way the feelings that I felt was us, us, myself, 1493 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,599 Speaker 4: Cannon and Lake being painted as the bad guys. 1494 01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:56,720 Speaker 3: You know. 1495 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,880 Speaker 4: And again like listen, when the artist of his cal 1496 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 4: Burr is out there tweeting or saying X, Y and Z, 1497 01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,639 Speaker 4: I can't go against his fan base, Like even whatever 1498 01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:12,840 Speaker 4: I say, like you know they're gonna you know that 1499 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:16,360 Speaker 4: that man's a fucking rock star, Like he's one of 1500 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:21,000 Speaker 4: the biggest artists in hip hop, like they're gonna and 1501 01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,360 Speaker 4: with any artists, like you know, if something when artists 1502 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,200 Speaker 4: say what they have to say, like that's where the 1503 01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,760 Speaker 4: people go, you know what I'm saying. So you know, 1504 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,960 Speaker 4: we just kind of we sat back and played our position, 1505 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,360 Speaker 4: you know, and you know what I will say is 1506 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:39,400 Speaker 4: that like when it was going down, like I definitely 1507 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:44,720 Speaker 4: have to salute and appreciate Jack for you know, standing 1508 01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:48,800 Speaker 4: by my side and waving the flag when when he 1509 01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:51,280 Speaker 4: he necessarily didn't have to, He could have stayed out 1510 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,840 Speaker 4: of the way, you know, and when it was when 1511 01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,439 Speaker 4: when when it was really thick and an a line 1512 01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,200 Speaker 4: of fire, you know, Jack posted a picture with me 1513 01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,439 Speaker 4: and him and set his piece and then you know 1514 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,479 Speaker 4: said it eternally take. 1515 01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:04,920 Speaker 3: On the way. 1516 01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:06,560 Speaker 1: Did him and UZI have a relationship. 1517 01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,599 Speaker 4: They didn't, They hadn't had never even met. And Jack 1518 01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,280 Speaker 4: was a fan of Uzi. You know, Jack, one of 1519 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:16,960 Speaker 4: the reasons why, you know, beyond the legacy that we 1520 01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,360 Speaker 4: brought to the table, like Generation now being the label 1521 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,960 Speaker 4: that little UZI vert was on, I'm sure you know 1522 01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,639 Speaker 4: had a part in Jack wanting to sign to us. 1523 01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:27,960 Speaker 4: So now they hadn't they had they hadn't had a 1524 01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,800 Speaker 4: relationship or had even met. And then you know, Vert 1525 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,760 Speaker 4: went on to like kind of like you know, he 1526 01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:34,960 Speaker 4: put like a clown face on Jack, and you know 1527 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,160 Speaker 4: they've since moved on to like. 1528 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:38,960 Speaker 3: Last BT Awards. 1529 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:43,000 Speaker 4: It was the first time they actually met and we 1530 01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:44,920 Speaker 4: all hugged it out, and you know, we took a 1531 01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,559 Speaker 4: picture then, and you know that kind of that kind 1532 01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,919 Speaker 4: of put it like a stamp where it was like, Okay, 1533 01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:52,559 Speaker 4: it was good to see, we're all moving forward. 1534 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,439 Speaker 3: Felt it was good to see and it felt great 1535 01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:54,680 Speaker 3: to do. 1536 01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,479 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, because you know, like I 1537 01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:01,160 Speaker 4: love Vert, like you know, like even when he was 1538 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,599 Speaker 4: had this thing to say, like I watched this kid 1539 01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:08,920 Speaker 4: go from a kid, this kid from Philly like wide eyed, 1540 01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,640 Speaker 4: come into mean streets, meeting Thug and being on a 1541 01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:14,880 Speaker 4: tour with Khalifa to being a fucking rock star, you 1542 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:15,439 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. 1543 01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:19,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, like yeah, like you know. 1544 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,640 Speaker 4: So to watch to take a picture with Jack and 1545 01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:28,280 Speaker 4: Vert originally in twenty one, like it was it felt great, 1546 01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:30,800 Speaker 4: you know, And then to take a picture this year 1547 01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:35,280 Speaker 4: with you know, all of us, you know, minus Cannon. 1548 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,719 Speaker 4: We I wish we could have cropped Cannon into the picture, 1549 01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,240 Speaker 4: like you know, it was a full circle moment, you. 1550 01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:44,160 Speaker 1: Know, creatively, outside of like the messy shit, how did 1551 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:49,200 Speaker 1: you Lake and Cannon strategize? UZI because that was definitely 1552 01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,519 Speaker 1: out of the wheelhouse that was the Gangster Grills brand, 1553 01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,120 Speaker 1: because even Jack Jack is a rapper, of course he's 1554 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,599 Speaker 1: a current rapper, but it's still in the wheelhouse of 1555 01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:00,879 Speaker 1: what Gangster Grills started as. How did you guys, outside 1556 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,599 Speaker 1: of just seeing Whosy's talent, what was the strategy on that, 1557 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,439 Speaker 1: because you guys don't come from that specific type of 1558 01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:07,920 Speaker 1: hip hop. 1559 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,360 Speaker 4: I would disagree because you know, I feel like we do. 1560 01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,680 Speaker 4: I mean, like we come from from from all of it, 1561 01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:22,680 Speaker 4: Like Lake ol Lake can tell you from west to 1562 01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:25,320 Speaker 4: south to east, like you can't. You can't play a 1563 01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,960 Speaker 4: record that Lake's not familiar with, like canon, the canon, 1564 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:32,000 Speaker 4: the same thing, mean, the same thing. So you know, 1565 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:38,400 Speaker 4: our strategy was we realized that we had a dope 1566 01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:42,559 Speaker 4: artist that was definitely something fresh and new that came 1567 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:46,439 Speaker 4: from Philly. Yeah, you know, an argument I had with 1568 01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,519 Speaker 4: the label at the time was. They were telling me, yo, 1569 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,640 Speaker 4: you got to get this kid hot in his backyard, 1570 01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,599 Speaker 4: and I was like, I disagree. 1571 01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,599 Speaker 1: Like especially what Philly was on at that time. 1572 01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, like you know the way when I when when 1573 01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,360 Speaker 4: we first signed Uzi, when people were like, oh, like 1574 01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,479 Speaker 4: tell me about him. The only thing I had to 1575 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:13,040 Speaker 4: kind of define it was like Uzi is to Philly 1576 01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,439 Speaker 4: with Asap Brocky was to New York. 1577 01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,439 Speaker 3: That's how originally. 1578 01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:19,200 Speaker 1: It's actually a really really really good comparison. 1579 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,280 Speaker 4: That's how I originally used to put it in perspective. 1580 01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,880 Speaker 4: And you know, at the time, I had more LA 1581 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,680 Speaker 4: gigs than I had anywhere, So we had vert out 1582 01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,040 Speaker 4: in LA, like you know, what do you Want was 1583 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 4: the hottest record in the club out there. And then 1584 01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:36,280 Speaker 4: we took him on tour with us, you know, the 1585 01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,240 Speaker 4: fall Out Boy and Whiskey Leaf of tour and literally 1586 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,880 Speaker 4: put him in front of twenty thousand off top where 1587 01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,720 Speaker 4: he got his chop. You know, he was able to 1588 01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:49,439 Speaker 4: really like get his chops just you know, it's like throwing. 1589 01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,639 Speaker 3: It's like going from high school straight to the league. 1590 01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,280 Speaker 4: And then Cannon was you know the sound like you 1591 01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:58,479 Speaker 4: know Cannon and you know Molly Rawl like and Vert, 1592 01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,640 Speaker 4: like they literally created that sound at Main Street Studios 1593 01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:07,599 Speaker 4: and like Cannon was the wizard behind you know how 1594 01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:11,080 Speaker 4: how verts sound was, you know what I'm saying. So 1595 01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,479 Speaker 4: they were they were a dynamic duo when it came 1596 01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,680 Speaker 4: to the music. Me and Lake stayed out of the 1597 01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:19,840 Speaker 4: way like Cannon and Vert. Yet they had that like we. 1598 01:24:19,800 --> 01:24:21,880 Speaker 1: Say, you're too humble. Cannon is too fucking humble. 1599 01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:22,040 Speaker 3: Bro. 1600 01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:26,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, as a producer doesn't get talked about the way 1601 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:29,160 Speaker 1: I agree for the long Jevity the eras he went 1602 01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:29,479 Speaker 1: through the. 1603 01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,679 Speaker 4: I'll be seeing the producer list and they be leaving 1604 01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:36,040 Speaker 4: my man out, like yo, crazy, I'd be wanting to 1605 01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,840 Speaker 4: custom niggas to fuck out, Like yo, how y'all be 1606 01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,120 Speaker 4: making these fucking lists and not putting my man Don 1607 01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:42,880 Speaker 4: Cannon on there like one. 1608 01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,120 Speaker 1: Per has been in every single era that. 1609 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,160 Speaker 4: Bro, Like Yo, like this man may go crazy, like 1610 01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:50,880 Speaker 4: his first place is crazy had jay Z on it. 1611 01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,439 Speaker 4: This nigga made the fucking art of storytelling with Andre 1612 01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,559 Speaker 4: three thousand and big Boy, like like what are we 1613 01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:01,360 Speaker 4: talking to? Nigga made Cannon like little like one of 1614 01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:06,120 Speaker 4: Lil Wayne's most talked about versus like one of the 1615 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:10,639 Speaker 4: one of the records that everybody wants to spit on, Like. 1616 01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,280 Speaker 1: What I think is Achilles here, which is kind of 1617 01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:14,920 Speaker 1: a gift and a curse. You can't tell when it's 1618 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,360 Speaker 1: a Cannon beat. He's so versatile. There's so many of 1619 01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,160 Speaker 1: like the super producers, right, I know right away who 1620 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,679 Speaker 1: made that, And he doesn't have his forar real four count. 1621 01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,320 Speaker 1: He only has the Cannon drop and he doesn't throw 1622 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,360 Speaker 1: it on shit like that, so you don't know if 1623 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:28,120 Speaker 1: it's Cannon. 1624 01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:32,840 Speaker 4: Like Cannon like like Cannon's work with SETI, like, like 1625 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:36,320 Speaker 4: it's been so dope, Like hands down, one of my 1626 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:39,040 Speaker 4: favorite SETI records is Cannon be like or even I 1627 01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:42,360 Speaker 4: think last year, like Canon had like twenty one placements, 1628 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,640 Speaker 4: Like it's crazy that that doesn't get talked about, Like 1629 01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:48,880 Speaker 4: you know, he's still one of the dopest in the game. He's, 1630 01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,680 Speaker 4: like you said, he's been through so many errors, you 1631 01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:53,960 Speaker 4: know what I mean. So, and that's what's so dope 1632 01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:57,040 Speaker 4: about us as generation now when we saw an artist, 1633 01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:00,600 Speaker 4: because we're literally giving them our shoulders to stand on, 1634 01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:06,200 Speaker 4: you know, like Uzzie and Jack, I think that they 1635 01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:12,840 Speaker 4: they their drive and their passion, like they were gonna 1636 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:19,880 Speaker 4: be here regardless, but coming to generation now and us 1637 01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,680 Speaker 4: being able to lend no shoulders, me being able to 1638 01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,559 Speaker 4: walk Jack into Sway in the morning at that point 1639 01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:29,679 Speaker 4: in his career, or him being associated with the niggas 1640 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,720 Speaker 4: that make gangster grills as being a white rapper, like 1641 01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,360 Speaker 4: we can't act like that didn't help, you know. 1642 01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:35,840 Speaker 3: What I'm saying? 1643 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,479 Speaker 2: Who was some of the artists and getting back to 1644 01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,679 Speaker 2: the whole gangster grills thing that you want to work 1645 01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:46,800 Speaker 2: with moving forward, Like one of my I would just 1646 01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:49,240 Speaker 2: me being a music guy, I would love to see 1647 01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:52,759 Speaker 2: a Kodak black fire gangster grills fire. 1648 01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:55,519 Speaker 3: At this point, I'm with it all. 1649 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,920 Speaker 4: I just tweeted out the other day like, yo, niggas 1650 01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:00,559 Speaker 4: is hitting me for gangster grills Like it's six again, Like. 1651 01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:01,360 Speaker 2: Who text you? 1652 01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:07,160 Speaker 1: It's okay what you can say if you want. 1653 01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,120 Speaker 4: I mean, listen, a lot of people when I put 1654 01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:12,559 Speaker 4: that out there, a lot of people said they would 1655 01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,960 Speaker 4: love to see an ees t G tape me and 1656 01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:21,160 Speaker 4: Icewear vessel we work in. I just did said, he's 1657 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:27,519 Speaker 4: well said gangster grills. You know I got some I 1658 01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,040 Speaker 4: got some ones coming. You know. 1659 01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,599 Speaker 1: How does that look though? Is it similar to the Tyler. 1660 01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,880 Speaker 1: It has to be a cleared album on DSPs. Like, 1661 01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,320 Speaker 1: what's the strategy. I've changed the brand continues in the 1662 01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:40,080 Speaker 1: mixtape form. 1663 01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:43,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean change the infrastructure of We've had to. 1664 01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,600 Speaker 4: We've had to because you know, yeah, it has to 1665 01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,200 Speaker 4: it's on DSPs now. So but what's dope is that 1666 01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,320 Speaker 4: like again, like now it's back the nostalgia of it 1667 01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:58,639 Speaker 4: is back around that like what once when Drake put 1668 01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,280 Speaker 4: out if you're reading this, it is too late like 1669 01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:07,439 Speaker 4: could have been now because now like I can, I'm 1670 01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:10,120 Speaker 4: going back to my ship talking and you know, me 1671 01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,720 Speaker 4: and Symbol just that we have a project coming out 1672 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,880 Speaker 4: some much fire, you know, and like when I go 1673 01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,160 Speaker 4: to the artists, I'm like, yo, how crazy you want 1674 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:18,519 Speaker 4: me to go? 1675 01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:20,320 Speaker 3: And they're like, man, go crazy. 1676 01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,439 Speaker 4: So it's like it's back to that where you know 1677 01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:27,559 Speaker 4: what once was like Okay, we have the dram version 1678 01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:29,920 Speaker 4: and then we have a no DJ version. Now it's 1679 01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:34,000 Speaker 4: back to like the gangster grills where it's me doing 1680 01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:36,160 Speaker 4: my one two and the bells and the whistles and 1681 01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,880 Speaker 4: you know, like and yeah, like you know, the Dreamville 1682 01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:45,639 Speaker 4: project just happened, and you know, now after going through 1683 01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:50,760 Speaker 4: the process, with Tyler, like and seeing that these projects 1684 01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:54,639 Speaker 4: are literally albums, and you know, who knows we could 1685 01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:58,760 Speaker 4: I could be Grammy nominated again next year for one 1686 01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:02,559 Speaker 4: that comes out. So we've treated it a little differently, 1687 01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:06,200 Speaker 4: and the bag is definitely. 1688 01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:08,200 Speaker 1: What's the process the process different from making the Gangster 1689 01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:12,599 Speaker 1: Reals mixtape to doing the Tyler album. How's it different? 1690 01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,080 Speaker 3: Well, Tyler, Tyler. 1691 01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:18,000 Speaker 4: You know, there's only been a very few artists that 1692 01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:22,080 Speaker 4: I've actually I do my my part in front of. 1693 01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:27,120 Speaker 4: With Tyler, we had three We had three sessions over 1694 01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:32,000 Speaker 4: maybe a four to six month period. And again like 1695 01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,800 Speaker 4: when Tyler first called me, he was like, yo, I 1696 01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:39,240 Speaker 4: got I got this crazy idea, you know, and we 1697 01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,719 Speaker 4: talked and he was going to send me to music. 1698 01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:45,160 Speaker 4: This was during COVID, and I got a call from 1699 01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,960 Speaker 4: Christian Clancy, his manager. He was like, yo, he wants 1700 01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,240 Speaker 4: to know if you know again this is this is 1701 01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:53,760 Speaker 4: still during COVID when people weren't like moving around. So 1702 01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:55,280 Speaker 4: he was like, yo, he wants to know if you 1703 01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,840 Speaker 4: feel comfortable just coming out here instead of him sending 1704 01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:58,040 Speaker 4: it to you. 1705 01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:59,720 Speaker 3: I was like, hell, yeah, I'll come out. So I 1706 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:00,240 Speaker 3: went out. 1707 01:30:00,479 --> 01:30:04,840 Speaker 4: When I got there, Tyler had already he had found 1708 01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:10,160 Speaker 4: a random gangster girls and had placed my drops like 1709 01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:12,479 Speaker 4: my voice on the tape of where he thought it 1710 01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,320 Speaker 4: would be dope to hear something. 1711 01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,080 Speaker 3: I was like, Yo, this guy's fucking. 1712 01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:16,519 Speaker 1: He's a producer. 1713 01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,400 Speaker 3: He's insane, actual producer. He does it all like he 1714 01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:20,439 Speaker 3: literally does it all. 1715 01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:24,679 Speaker 4: And his you know, he had just won, He had 1716 01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:27,439 Speaker 4: just won the Grammy for Best Rap Album for an 1717 01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:31,040 Speaker 4: album that he didn't feel was a rap album. 1718 01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:33,679 Speaker 1: Igor was was my favorite album of that year. 1719 01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:34,280 Speaker 3: I love You. 1720 01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,280 Speaker 1: I didn't I felt it should have won Album of 1721 01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:39,479 Speaker 1: the Year period and should have stayed out of the 1722 01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,719 Speaker 1: rap category. But to me, that was my favorite album. 1723 01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:43,680 Speaker 1: And so to watch him do Igor and then go 1724 01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:47,400 Speaker 1: right to call Me Home, it's like, where are we 1725 01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,240 Speaker 1: ranking Tyler because it has to be pretty fucking high 1726 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,600 Speaker 1: to the drama. 1727 01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:55,599 Speaker 4: Shiity like Tyler has to be on that Mount Rushmore 1728 01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,559 Speaker 4: combo when we talk about Drake Cole and Ken Drick 1729 01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:04,400 Speaker 4: are yeah, he's the and NICKI for you know, and 1730 01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:08,080 Speaker 4: future and Tyler like for sure, I know there's only 1731 01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,600 Speaker 4: four people on Mount Rushmore, but if we had to 1732 01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:14,800 Speaker 4: talk about from twenty ten and twenty twenty, those like 1733 01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:20,280 Speaker 4: I would have. I would Drake, Kendrick, Cole, Nicki Future 1734 01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:22,479 Speaker 4: and Tyler you know that would. 1735 01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,800 Speaker 1: Think I think Travis creaked up towards the end. 1736 01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:26,759 Speaker 3: Little a little later, yeah, a little later. 1737 01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:28,080 Speaker 1: But I'm putting Tyler right there. 1738 01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:31,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so like yeah, so you know I would. 1739 01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,280 Speaker 4: I would literally go on to booth do my one 1740 01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,439 Speaker 4: two and then you know the conversations we had. He 1741 01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:38,240 Speaker 4: was like, yo, bro, like I'm really I'm really about 1742 01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,639 Speaker 4: to be on my rap shit. Yeah, these niggas wanted 1743 01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:42,160 Speaker 4: like like. 1744 01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,479 Speaker 1: Almost he did speaker box leblo he did. 1745 01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,400 Speaker 4: And almost as if they played on his on his 1746 01:31:47,640 --> 01:31:50,719 Speaker 4: on his on his top. He was like, yo, okay, 1747 01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,840 Speaker 4: like let me show you where I come from. He 1748 01:31:53,960 --> 01:31:57,000 Speaker 4: was highly inspired by the Farrell Gangster grills. Sure you know, 1749 01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:58,360 Speaker 4: I don't think there would be a call me if 1750 01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,680 Speaker 4: you get lost, if there wasn't a Pharrell in my 1751 01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:04,720 Speaker 4: mind the prequel and like you know he would he 1752 01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:06,840 Speaker 4: would like, as I was doing my ship in the booth, 1753 01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:09,280 Speaker 4: he would just say, yo, say. 1754 01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:12,960 Speaker 3: We're on a boat, and I would say it and 1755 01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:14,240 Speaker 3: he would be like, oh my god. 1756 01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:19,679 Speaker 4: Late came to the second session, which we had maybe 1757 01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,519 Speaker 4: up two months after the first one heard the music 1758 01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,080 Speaker 4: and he literally said, right there, yo, y'all, y'all going 1759 01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:32,040 Speaker 4: win a Grammy for this, And like, you know, as 1760 01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:34,839 Speaker 4: we were working, like I knew it was special. 1761 01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,800 Speaker 3: Like I knew it was special. Oh, of course we 1762 01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:38,599 Speaker 3: get the Grammy. 1763 01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:40,439 Speaker 1: There's a Grammy in my house. 1764 01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:41,439 Speaker 2: There's a Grammy. 1765 01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:45,040 Speaker 3: Cool crazy. 1766 01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,000 Speaker 1: I was with Full Circle. I was with you when 1767 01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:47,439 Speaker 1: you found out. 1768 01:32:47,479 --> 01:32:48,760 Speaker 3: He was with me when we found out. 1769 01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:52,880 Speaker 4: We were when I won the Grammy. We were instead 1770 01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,840 Speaker 4: of going to the Grammys. 1771 01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:58,639 Speaker 3: I uh, here it is. 1772 01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:00,000 Speaker 2: That's fire. 1773 01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,960 Speaker 1: Dream Dreamville Fest had a DJ Drama set, which was 1774 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:04,639 Speaker 1: one of my favorite federals I think ever. 1775 01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:07,760 Speaker 4: Dreamville Fest had a DJ drama set. It was it 1776 01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:09,160 Speaker 4: was and that idea came. 1777 01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:10,160 Speaker 3: Uh. 1778 01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:13,080 Speaker 4: We were in Houston during the Legends of the Streets tour, 1779 01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:18,360 Speaker 4: which was myself, g Z Ross, Two Chains, Fab Little 1780 01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:23,759 Speaker 4: Kim Trina. The next night, Cole had his show. Cole 1781 01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:28,559 Speaker 4: came to the concert and you know, we were just Cole, 1782 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,960 Speaker 4: Ebe and Sasha, Me and Lake were up there talk 1783 01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,120 Speaker 4: and then we're like, bro, we could like this is 1784 01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:36,559 Speaker 4: some ship, Like this really supposed to be the Gangster 1785 01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:41,000 Speaker 4: Grills Tour. Cole and Eve and Sasha was like what 1786 01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:44,639 Speaker 4: it's gen Like, man, I'm in, Like what we got 1787 01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,080 Speaker 4: to do? So they came to us with the idea 1788 01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:51,120 Speaker 4: to do a gangster grill set during Dreamville. So it was, 1789 01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,920 Speaker 4: you know, literally my first I had done something at 1790 01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,880 Speaker 4: Roots Picnic a couple of years, yeah, prior, but this 1791 01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,320 Speaker 4: was like literally like DJ Drama Presents Gangster Grills, trind 1792 01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:01,320 Speaker 4: Little Wayne, t I. 1793 01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:01,680 Speaker 3: And g Z. 1794 01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:05,920 Speaker 4: So I get I get to the Dreamville in Carolina, 1795 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,200 Speaker 4: Rory's there with me, you know, the whole gang's there 1796 01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:11,320 Speaker 4: with me to go. It was the night of the 1797 01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:14,720 Speaker 4: Grammys to go, you know, do our performance. As I'm 1798 01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:17,839 Speaker 4: sitting there with Rob Markman and with Wayne O Wayno 1799 01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,760 Speaker 4: literally looks at his phone and says, this just then 1800 01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:25,920 Speaker 4: call me if you get lost Best Rap Album, and 1801 01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,439 Speaker 4: I'm sitting there doing an interview like yo, this is 1802 01:34:29,160 --> 01:34:31,800 Speaker 4: literally was one of the biggest nights of my career. Like, yeah, 1803 01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:33,799 Speaker 4: I went to Grammy and then I go on stage 1804 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,759 Speaker 4: in front of seventy five thousand and perform with Wayne, 1805 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:37,880 Speaker 4: Geezy and Tip. 1806 01:34:37,720 --> 01:34:38,599 Speaker 2: Like talk your ship? 1807 01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:40,800 Speaker 3: How full circle is that crazy? 1808 01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:42,519 Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you. 1809 01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:46,639 Speaker 1: To get your ship over And this is how hip 1810 01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:50,519 Speaker 1: hop drama is like down to the core. Went from 1811 01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,799 Speaker 1: being on FaceTime with Fonte to then hopping on stage 1812 01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,640 Speaker 1: with Wayne t I g Z, then getting off to 1813 01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,440 Speaker 1: accept as Grammy with Wayno Crazy. 1814 01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:00,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty. 1815 01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:02,960 Speaker 1: It's a pretty hip hop like if you go down. 1816 01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of layers, a lot of layers 1817 01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:05,640 Speaker 2: of hip hop. 1818 01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:09,800 Speaker 4: I'm really from the cloth man like like I am 1819 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:13,680 Speaker 4: the epitome of hip hop culture. Like I am like 1820 01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:19,519 Speaker 4: from the top, from run DMC, from me wanting toded 1821 01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:21,360 Speaker 4: this page your dudes brother to. 1822 01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:24,240 Speaker 1: This like and in between Lake kicking people off stage. 1823 01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, Late Lake, Man, I was one of that was 1824 01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:28,880 Speaker 4: a rough knight for Lake. 1825 01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:30,920 Speaker 3: Oh that was a rough night. 1826 01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,720 Speaker 1: Oh we can't talk about what was It was tough 1827 01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,599 Speaker 1: and I talked about it. It was there was there 1828 01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:36,280 Speaker 1: was some drama. 1829 01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Late Late Lake's a good guy. Like listen man. 1830 01:35:40,240 --> 01:35:43,880 Speaker 4: Lake has been putting a lot of scenarios where he's 1831 01:35:43,920 --> 01:35:47,400 Speaker 4: had his hands full and he's handled that perfect. He's 1832 01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:55,280 Speaker 4: in He's an impeccable managerial person. Like the way he 1833 01:35:55,280 --> 01:36:00,120 Speaker 4: he juggles and and handles it all. It's like, you know, 1834 01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:03,120 Speaker 4: I wouldn't be here if me and Lake. You know, 1835 01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:07,559 Speaker 4: we've been friends since college, but we literally I think 1836 01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,720 Speaker 4: it's been like ten years, like maybe just just a 1837 01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,600 Speaker 4: little over ten years where we've had we had a 1838 01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:17,240 Speaker 4: real business relationship, and we had done business before, Like 1839 01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:22,560 Speaker 4: Lake's always been there through my career. Lake interned at Rockefeller, 1840 01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:26,960 Speaker 4: like Lake managed Dog Pound, Lake managed Bobby V like 1841 01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:31,320 Speaker 4: you know, so Lake was you know, was was right 1842 01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:34,320 Speaker 4: next to Mace for many years and was in a 1843 01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:37,400 Speaker 4: management position, so you know, he was he was out 1844 01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:40,679 Speaker 4: paying his dues. You know, when we were friends before 1845 01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:43,680 Speaker 4: we started to work together. And then like you know, 1846 01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:49,120 Speaker 4: I remember when I made Oh My. I told him, 1847 01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,160 Speaker 4: I was like, yo, I got a record, and he 1848 01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:54,240 Speaker 4: wound up coming to hear it, and you know, he 1849 01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,080 Speaker 4: heard on myine because I was kind of I was 1850 01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:58,439 Speaker 4: kind of off making records and songs at the time, 1851 01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:00,800 Speaker 4: like I was like, I don't know if I want 1852 01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:02,760 Speaker 4: to do this. Then I made on My Then I 1853 01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,559 Speaker 4: then you know, I had left Atlantic, went to E one, 1854 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:10,559 Speaker 4: and you know, me and Lake started to like Lake, 1855 01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:11,240 Speaker 4: Me and Lake. 1856 01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:13,680 Speaker 3: As I was building mean streets. 1857 01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,960 Speaker 4: I did Third Power Album, which I kind of like 1858 01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:19,599 Speaker 4: almost like really just kind of rushed and put together 1859 01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:21,680 Speaker 4: he helped me do that, and then we worked on 1860 01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:24,479 Speaker 4: quality street music together and we literally were in the 1861 01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:28,120 Speaker 4: studio every day working on that album, which I feel 1862 01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:30,519 Speaker 4: like is my best body of work. And even when 1863 01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:33,040 Speaker 4: I got my moment, like when T Minus sent me 1864 01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:35,800 Speaker 4: in my moment beat and I sent it to Jeremiah 1865 01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:37,720 Speaker 4: Lake told me like, yo, this is going to be 1866 01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:40,519 Speaker 4: your biggest record thus far, and he was correct. And 1867 01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:44,400 Speaker 4: you know, even with wishing like you know so and 1868 01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:47,320 Speaker 4: then us coming back to form Generation Now, like it 1869 01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:49,960 Speaker 4: was just you know, I just really I'm really giving 1870 01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:51,080 Speaker 4: him his flowers right now. 1871 01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:51,759 Speaker 3: I know we're. 1872 01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:54,160 Speaker 1: Talking, and I love how you don't know how to 1873 01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:56,280 Speaker 1: take compliments. I could tell he's like he's looking down 1874 01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:59,599 Speaker 1: on his phone. He's not paying attention. He's now showing 1875 01:37:59,640 --> 01:37:59,920 Speaker 1: you on. 1876 01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:02,880 Speaker 4: His you know, first of all, you let's give him 1877 01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:06,400 Speaker 4: his credit on his drip, like he's the fabulous of Generation. 1878 01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,160 Speaker 3: So and you'll never see it twice. 1879 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:14,360 Speaker 4: His drip is crazy, and you know, he's one of 1880 01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:17,639 Speaker 4: the smartest people I know, Like, and I'm so thankful 1881 01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:21,479 Speaker 4: to have him, you know, in my corner and like 1882 01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:24,400 Speaker 4: as a friend. You know, he holds me to the fire. 1883 01:38:24,840 --> 01:38:26,920 Speaker 4: He's not a yes man. Yeah, he tells me when 1884 01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:30,479 Speaker 4: I'm fucking up. Very important, you know, and I appreciate that. 1885 01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:32,800 Speaker 4: And you know, me and him and Kennon, we've known 1886 01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:35,400 Speaker 4: each other so long, so we know, we know our 1887 01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:37,840 Speaker 4: strengths and we know our weaknesses, and we're very open 1888 01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:40,320 Speaker 4: with each other about it, like about who we are 1889 01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:43,320 Speaker 4: as people and that, you know, I think we define 1890 01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:47,080 Speaker 4: like friends and business can mix, you know what I mean. 1891 01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:49,599 Speaker 3: And yeah, back to Dreamville. 1892 01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:52,439 Speaker 4: He had a he had a hell of a night 1893 01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:55,840 Speaker 4: trying to you know, maneuver through that, and we made 1894 01:38:55,880 --> 01:38:57,000 Speaker 4: it happen and it was dope. 1895 01:38:57,479 --> 01:38:59,920 Speaker 1: My favorite video I've ever taken in my entire life. 1896 01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:02,559 Speaker 1: It is from that that night and I'll insert it here. 1897 01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:18,599 Speaker 3: This was crazy. But but but he war he warmed up. 1898 01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:23,280 Speaker 4: He warmed up after that, and yeah, by the time 1899 01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,880 Speaker 4: we got to like Swag Surf, he was he was 1900 01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:29,400 Speaker 4: he was there. Yeah, he was there, you know. But 1901 01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:34,600 Speaker 4: Wayne's the goat bro, like you know, just even that 1902 01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:38,960 Speaker 4: like being a part of his his story and history, 1903 01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:42,200 Speaker 4: like you know, even thinking about like like yo, I 1904 01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:47,439 Speaker 4: named dedication dedication on a whim, not knowing, not knowing 1905 01:39:47,479 --> 01:39:51,479 Speaker 4: nothing like before, like before I had heard any music 1906 01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:56,519 Speaker 4: or before Katrina or like before even realizing who Wayne 1907 01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:59,880 Speaker 4: was going to become, Like like I gotta give my 1908 01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:04,640 Speaker 4: self credit for like the genius of the things that 1909 01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:07,800 Speaker 4: come out of my brain, like just name like dedication, 1910 01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:11,280 Speaker 4: like it's like it it's it's so. 1911 01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:14,080 Speaker 1: Fitting him and Park would, I guess be the most 1912 01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,640 Speaker 1: dedicated rappers as far as sitting in the studio and 1913 01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:17,479 Speaker 1: putting music out. 1914 01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:19,880 Speaker 3: It's so fitting. And it's like yo, like. 1915 01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:25,960 Speaker 4: You know I said on Seti's tape like yo, true story, 1916 01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:29,479 Speaker 4: Like before all this gangster grill shit, like you know, 1917 01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:32,920 Speaker 4: money was tight, like I barely could pay my bills. 1918 01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:37,120 Speaker 4: I almost I literally almost moved back to Philly and 1919 01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,639 Speaker 4: was thinking about like damn this shiit just it might 1920 01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:42,200 Speaker 4: not be it, Like I had a daughter like. 1921 01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:44,479 Speaker 3: I wasn't you know, ends wasn't. 1922 01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:50,240 Speaker 4: Meeting And imagine how many classics we wouldn't have today 1923 01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:53,840 Speaker 4: if I would have done that, Like and I you know, 1924 01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,559 Speaker 4: the song is called Can't Go So it's like, yo, 1925 01:40:56,720 --> 01:41:01,040 Speaker 4: never never go back, like you know, stay on your path, like. 1926 01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,680 Speaker 1: Be dedicated, don't don't give false advice to people like oh, 1927 01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do this and not be dedicated and 1928 01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:11,519 Speaker 1: now you now you're getting evicted. We got some random 1929 01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:17,760 Speaker 1: rapid fire ship Okay, best Gangster Grills mixtape moment and 1930 01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:21,120 Speaker 1: outside of the Fed's worst Gangster Grills moment. 1931 01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:26,479 Speaker 3: Best Gangster Grills mix tape moment for you. 1932 01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:28,400 Speaker 1: Behind the scenes, not like when a record hit, but 1933 01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:32,519 Speaker 1: like studio moment, artist moment, conversation moment. 1934 01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:39,280 Speaker 4: I mean, Tyler is up there, but we've talked about 1935 01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:41,800 Speaker 4: that too much, So I want to give you all 1936 01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:42,479 Speaker 4: something else. 1937 01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:49,200 Speaker 3: Damn what else can a song count? 1938 01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:49,960 Speaker 1: Of course? 1939 01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:55,160 Speaker 3: Okay, So Outcast was supposed to do against the Grills. 1940 01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:57,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be part of my Wow. 1941 01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:00,000 Speaker 3: Me there. 1942 01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:04,599 Speaker 4: Manager of the Tom Blue, Williams, Dre and Big Boy 1943 01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:06,760 Speaker 4: all got on the phone. We were going to do 1944 01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:11,120 Speaker 4: a gangst Girls. They were working. It was supposed to 1945 01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:17,880 Speaker 4: come out before Iddle Wild okay, right, And I got 1946 01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:23,080 Speaker 4: a call and they said, listen, dram Honestly, as much 1947 01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:25,639 Speaker 4: as we want to do it, we don't have the time. 1948 01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:28,519 Speaker 4: Like we're working on the soundtrack and we're working on 1949 01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,679 Speaker 4: the movie, but we want to offer you a record 1950 01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:34,040 Speaker 4: for your album, like an Outcast record. 1951 01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:38,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like what hell? Yeah? 1952 01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:45,760 Speaker 1: Like okay, Also of our greatest song series ever party storytelling. 1953 01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:53,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so for this had to be, this had to 1954 01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:56,040 Speaker 4: be early two thousand and seven or something, or maybe 1955 01:42:56,280 --> 01:43:01,080 Speaker 4: late two thousand and six. So I started sending I 1956 01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:09,400 Speaker 4: started sending Dre like every hot producer in the game 1957 01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:11,840 Speaker 4: beats like I sent him everybody's beats. 1958 01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,400 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna name no names, but every you know. 1959 01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:18,200 Speaker 4: At the time, I was, you know, I was on fire. 1960 01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:21,560 Speaker 4: Everybody was sending me beats. Who was anybody I was 1961 01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:26,920 Speaker 4: sending him? And he was turning everything down. No, no, 1962 01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:32,560 Speaker 4: I'm just talking about but I was producers of a 1963 01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:33,320 Speaker 4: high caliber. 1964 01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:36,400 Speaker 3: He was turning them down. The raid happened. 1965 01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:41,800 Speaker 4: I actually had just did Jim Jones' Seven Day Theory 1966 01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:45,479 Speaker 4: and there's a record on there that's fucking fire to 1967 01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:46,200 Speaker 4: beats fire. 1968 01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:48,360 Speaker 3: What's the name of it? Remember the name of the 1969 01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:51,080 Speaker 3: late Jim Jones record. 1970 01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:53,479 Speaker 4: Forget the name of it, but it's on the Seven 1971 01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:55,640 Speaker 4: Day Theory. And I asked Canon to make me a 1972 01:43:55,680 --> 01:44:01,639 Speaker 4: beat like that, right, So he made me beat similar 1973 01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:04,760 Speaker 4: to that. And as soon as I. 1974 01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:07,280 Speaker 3: Got out, like as. 1975 01:44:07,120 --> 01:44:10,040 Speaker 4: Soon as like literally days after I got out of jail, 1976 01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:14,599 Speaker 4: and the raid happened, and everything I had to beat 1977 01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:17,240 Speaker 4: and I sent it to Lake, who was working with 1978 01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:20,439 Speaker 4: Marsha at the time, and I called her and I 1979 01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:24,280 Speaker 4: was like, look, yo, like listen, I need something like 1980 01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,680 Speaker 4: like list like this is not the end for me, 1981 01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:29,680 Speaker 4: Like I can't be stopped. Nothing's gonna stop us, like 1982 01:44:30,320 --> 01:44:33,320 Speaker 4: we're gonna keep going. And she literally took what I 1983 01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:37,880 Speaker 4: told her, and you know, that was her hook. It's 1984 01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:40,040 Speaker 4: crazy because I was you know, I didn't get any 1985 01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:43,160 Speaker 4: publishing on the record. It's fucked up not you know, 1986 01:44:43,240 --> 01:44:46,439 Speaker 4: at the time, I was still young and I wasn't aware. 1987 01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:50,519 Speaker 4: So because I definitely like assisted her in what to 1988 01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:54,240 Speaker 4: say on on the on the on the course, she 1989 01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:56,519 Speaker 4: sent it right. She sent it back to me. I 1990 01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:00,400 Speaker 4: sent it, I sent it to three thousand. He said, 1991 01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:03,120 Speaker 4: give me twenty four hours, and the next day he 1992 01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:06,400 Speaker 4: sends me back his verse for the artist for the 1993 01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:09,280 Speaker 4: for that song, and I was like, damn, who should. 1994 01:45:09,439 --> 01:45:12,760 Speaker 4: So then I went to go see Big and at 1995 01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:15,280 Speaker 4: the time I wasn't even like, I didn't know if 1996 01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:17,640 Speaker 4: it was going to be an outcast record. I just 1997 01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:21,200 Speaker 4: had a three thousand verse. And then Big heard it 1998 01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:22,639 Speaker 4: and he was like, oh, yeah, this is the one, 1999 01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:25,479 Speaker 4: and then he got on it and he named it 2000 01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:29,920 Speaker 4: The Artist Storytelling Part four, and yeah, it's one of 2001 01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:34,400 Speaker 4: my most like monumental moments in Gangster Girl's history. 2002 01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:36,439 Speaker 3: Like I have an outcast record. You know what I'm saying. 2003 01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:37,160 Speaker 1: It's in hip hop. 2004 01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:42,679 Speaker 4: You know, I'm mad at myself again, you know, being 2005 01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:45,760 Speaker 4: young and you know, not knowing what I know now. 2006 01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:46,519 Speaker 3: That I didn't. 2007 01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,439 Speaker 4: We didn't shoot a video for it because Andre would 2008 01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:51,960 Speaker 4: have did it like he wanted. He asked for one 2009 01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:58,519 Speaker 4: hundred thousand for the video, and respectfully, the label should 2010 01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:00,479 Speaker 4: have and probably would have paid for it. 2011 01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:02,880 Speaker 1: But I think that was three thousands the way of 2012 01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:04,800 Speaker 1: saying I'm not doing a video. No, he would I 2013 01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:06,519 Speaker 1: think it would have did it because he knew no. 2014 01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:08,120 Speaker 1: I think he would have done it. I think he 2015 01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:09,639 Speaker 1: thought the label was not going to pay. 2016 01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:11,120 Speaker 3: No, but they should have. They would have. 2017 01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:13,600 Speaker 4: I think they would have if if I would have, 2018 01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:16,000 Speaker 4: if I would have had the structure of the team 2019 01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:19,200 Speaker 4: that I have now, you would have definitely gotten it done. 2020 01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:22,439 Speaker 4: And to be honest, that ship probably would have got 2021 01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:24,200 Speaker 4: Grammy nominated as well if we. 2022 01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:26,720 Speaker 2: Would have went full for sure, I agree, don't know, 2023 01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:28,400 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna. 2024 01:46:28,160 --> 01:46:30,240 Speaker 4: Tell a worst moment I'm thinking of the worst moment. 2025 01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:33,240 Speaker 4: But one another thing I am salty about that happened 2026 01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:35,240 Speaker 4: with that album was there was a record and it 2027 01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:37,799 Speaker 4: didn't get clear to wound up leaking. It's on the internet. 2028 01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,760 Speaker 4: But I had a record that Just Blaze did. It 2029 01:46:40,840 --> 01:46:43,200 Speaker 4: was the first time Just Blaze and Lil Wayne worked together. 2030 01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:43,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know. 2031 01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:46,280 Speaker 4: It was called million Dollars. It was called Million Dollar Baby, 2032 01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:50,280 Speaker 4: and I was on it. Wayne was spitting and the 2033 01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:53,400 Speaker 4: hook was me pretty much being his trainer. 2034 01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:55,200 Speaker 3: So there's two versions on the internet. 2035 01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:57,240 Speaker 4: There's a version with me on there, and there's a 2036 01:46:57,320 --> 01:47:01,519 Speaker 4: version without me that they leaked. But there's the version 2037 01:47:01,560 --> 01:47:04,240 Speaker 4: with me on there is me actually as his coach 2038 01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:06,719 Speaker 4: talking about yo, you gotta hit him with a left 2039 01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:09,280 Speaker 4: left to the body, stick and move, stick and move. Okay, 2040 01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:11,080 Speaker 4: da da da, you know, And at the end of 2041 01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:13,839 Speaker 4: the record it's like Wayne's saying, gangs to grills, no braces. 2042 01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:16,880 Speaker 4: That was a because I had the Cannon record, Like, 2043 01:47:17,000 --> 01:47:21,160 Speaker 4: I couldn't get to Wayne Records cleared for the album, 2044 01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,439 Speaker 4: so it never made the album in and wound up 2045 01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:25,559 Speaker 4: leaking sometime after. 2046 01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:29,559 Speaker 1: Do you play the Diddy interlude at Thanksgiving? Dinners. Is 2047 01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:33,320 Speaker 1: that like a tradition or I should Yeah, I should? 2048 01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:36,280 Speaker 4: He hell of in you know, your first album is 2049 01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:38,679 Speaker 4: like I think I had like twenty songs on there. 2050 01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:41,000 Speaker 1: I was just all the favors that you was trying 2051 01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:41,639 Speaker 1: to do the most. 2052 01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:43,680 Speaker 4: Like I was trying to do the most, like just 2053 01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:45,240 Speaker 4: over the top. It's your first album. 2054 01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:46,800 Speaker 2: I was going crazy. 2055 01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:52,320 Speaker 4: Everything, like I had fucking d doing skits and Puff 2056 01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:58,360 Speaker 4: doing skits. Riggs was setting up the whole fed situation. 2057 01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:00,760 Speaker 1: Like you know, that was towards I don't want to 2058 01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:04,960 Speaker 1: say the demise, but June was kind of breaking up 2059 01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:07,559 Speaker 1: with that time. Was there talks of fifty being on 2060 01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:09,400 Speaker 1: the because it's what banks yeo. 2061 01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:11,640 Speaker 3: And its banks Yo and Bucks. 2062 01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:14,760 Speaker 4: I don't know what you know that I didn't have 2063 01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:19,400 Speaker 4: the relationship with Fifth then that I have now. I 2064 01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:22,160 Speaker 4: did try to get him on a song and we did. 2065 01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:24,599 Speaker 4: We couldn't get him on the record, but of course 2066 01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:27,799 Speaker 4: I definitely wanted fifty on the song and on the album. 2067 01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:28,680 Speaker 3: But you know. 2068 01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:32,519 Speaker 4: That was it, you know, that was it, That was 2069 01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:34,599 Speaker 4: what doing like what the Curtis era. 2070 01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:37,680 Speaker 1: So yes, it was still like I get money was up. 2071 01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:41,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, Fifth was fucking on fire. So yeah, I wasn't 2072 01:48:41,520 --> 01:48:42,640 Speaker 4: able to get fifty for that. 2073 01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,599 Speaker 1: Do you think Andre two thousands should have fucked Tomi's girl? 2074 01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:50,880 Speaker 1: She was already cheating. 2075 01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:54,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not in the fucking other niggas girls, 2076 01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:55,519 Speaker 4: so I'm a say no. 2077 01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:56,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was kind of weird. 2078 01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the story. 2079 01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:04,320 Speaker 2: Why haven't we gotten a Rick Ross Gangster Grove? 2080 01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,840 Speaker 4: We've just we've missed it. You know, there was a 2081 01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:16,720 Speaker 4: there was a time early on on def Jam where 2082 01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:24,000 Speaker 4: it did come up and it didn't happen. But there's 2083 01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:27,679 Speaker 4: no there's no real like, there should definitely be one. 2084 01:49:28,000 --> 01:49:32,160 Speaker 4: So and there could still potentially be one. I mean, 2085 01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:36,679 Speaker 4: I'm definitely down to work with Ross. Like I love Ross. 2086 01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:41,240 Speaker 4: I was I was one of his first supporters, you know, 2087 01:49:41,320 --> 01:49:43,920 Speaker 4: with Hustling. I'm I'm the first person to ever play 2088 01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:47,080 Speaker 4: Hustling outside of Miami, and I broke it on Atlanta 2089 01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:48,759 Speaker 4: Radio when we had Gangster Girls Radio. 2090 01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:50,320 Speaker 3: You know, I'm in the video. 2091 01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:53,880 Speaker 1: I think sounds might argue with you, he might. 2092 01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:55,920 Speaker 4: I mean he was in New York, but you know, 2093 01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:59,439 Speaker 4: call it played it first in Miami, and like I 2094 01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:00,960 Speaker 4: could definitely I was the first in. 2095 01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:06,960 Speaker 3: My man's sife. But Yeah, we definitely were very early. 2096 01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:11,880 Speaker 4: On that record, and you know, I was there very 2097 01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:13,880 Speaker 4: early on in Ross's career, and we've always had a 2098 01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:18,160 Speaker 4: great relationship. You know, he's he's done, We've had He 2099 01:50:18,280 --> 01:50:20,679 Speaker 4: was on a record just recently. I did three sixty 2100 01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:23,320 Speaker 4: a couple of years ago with him and Westside Gun. 2101 01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:26,840 Speaker 4: I have a record on my album called Clouds on 2102 01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:36,000 Speaker 4: Quality Street Music with Miguel Ross, Pusha and Currency. So yeah, 2103 01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:40,120 Speaker 4: me and Ross, you know, yeah, that's that's my guy, Like, 2104 01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:43,880 Speaker 4: that's you know, I just think it's one of those 2105 01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:46,479 Speaker 4: one of those ones that that got missed. 2106 01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:49,519 Speaker 3: You know. It definitely sounds crazy that Ross doesn't have 2107 01:50:49,520 --> 01:50:49,880 Speaker 3: a gangster. 2108 01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:51,800 Speaker 1: I think that Push too. 2109 01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:53,599 Speaker 3: It's definitely crazy. 2110 01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:55,040 Speaker 4: You know. When I tweeted that the other day, a 2111 01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:57,040 Speaker 4: lot of people were saying push his names. 2112 01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:58,519 Speaker 3: But I did do a clips tape. 2113 01:50:58,640 --> 01:50:59,280 Speaker 2: Yeah we did. 2114 01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:03,240 Speaker 4: Uh it got it for Cheap Volume three. So so yeah, 2115 01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:04,160 Speaker 4: I mean in the sense. 2116 01:51:04,120 --> 01:51:08,040 Speaker 1: I would like to see reub Gang, Yeah, that would be. 2117 01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:11,120 Speaker 4: It was the reup Gang. It was reup Gang. We 2118 01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:12,280 Speaker 4: got it for Cheap Volume three. 2119 01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Outside of so you said the worst, what was 2120 01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:18,720 Speaker 1: the oh yeah, the worst. I'm sorry. We di missed that. 2121 01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,599 Speaker 1: What was the question the worst moment shot from the 2122 01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:26,920 Speaker 1: Feds in Gangster Grills mixtape series, and maybe some ship 2123 01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:31,479 Speaker 1: that the public never knew something in the studio versus 2124 01:51:31,479 --> 01:51:32,280 Speaker 1: that didn't come in. 2125 01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:32,960 Speaker 2: Well. 2126 01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:37,760 Speaker 4: Two, I mean, the biggest the biggest mistakes of my 2127 01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:41,440 Speaker 4: career are two things. When I'm when I moved when 2128 01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:44,160 Speaker 4: in two thousand and five and I moved from where 2129 01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:46,640 Speaker 4: Gangster Grills started into my first condo. I bought my 2130 01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:50,200 Speaker 4: first condo. You know, I had just gotten into magazines 2131 01:51:50,360 --> 01:51:53,800 Speaker 4: and you know, I was feeling myself and I had 2132 01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:58,080 Speaker 4: a box of every flyer that I had, my name 2133 01:51:58,160 --> 01:51:58,960 Speaker 4: had ever. 2134 01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:00,280 Speaker 1: Been on that's amazing. 2135 01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:05,880 Speaker 4: Since fucking ninety three or ninety four to two thousand 2136 01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:08,639 Speaker 4: and five, and I had it and it was all 2137 01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:11,600 Speaker 4: in one box of my flyers. When I moved, my 2138 01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:16,080 Speaker 4: landlord called me and said, yo, you left his box behind. 2139 01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:18,559 Speaker 4: Oh shit, And I was like, I don't need it 2140 01:52:19,479 --> 01:52:21,680 Speaker 4: because I was like, I'm in magazines now, like I 2141 01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:26,559 Speaker 4: don't need those flyers, and he threw it out. Years later, 2142 01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:30,080 Speaker 4: there was a DJ from Chicago named DJ Drama who 2143 01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:33,760 Speaker 4: sent a cease and assist to Atlantic and said, I 2144 01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:36,720 Speaker 4: own the name DJ Drama. If you guys put this 2145 01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:39,760 Speaker 4: album out but DJ Drama, I'm gonna sue you. So 2146 01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:42,600 Speaker 4: my first two albums on Atlantic to say Drama, they 2147 01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:45,479 Speaker 4: don't say DJ Drama. I had to buy the name 2148 01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:49,799 Speaker 4: from the rapper who was at the time incarcerated, Drama, 2149 01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:51,000 Speaker 4: who was signed to Atlantic. 2150 01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,800 Speaker 3: So I gave him. I paid him ten grand to 2151 01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:55,880 Speaker 3: use the name Drama. 2152 01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:59,599 Speaker 4: Because I tried to give the DJ Drama guy fifty grand, 2153 01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:02,360 Speaker 4: he wouldn't accept it. I hired a private investigator to 2154 01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:06,040 Speaker 4: go hunt him down, couldn't find him. 2155 01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:07,280 Speaker 3: And then at the. 2156 01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:09,599 Speaker 4: Time, my lawyer told me, well, if you can prove 2157 01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:13,040 Speaker 4: that you've been using that name for X amount of years, 2158 01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:14,639 Speaker 4: you don't have the box. 2159 01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:15,519 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2160 01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:18,160 Speaker 4: I had threw all my fucking flyers out crazy and 2161 01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:20,960 Speaker 4: just for memorabilia, like where I am in my career. No, 2162 01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,400 Speaker 4: like the fact that I'll have that is like. 2163 01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:30,200 Speaker 2: I was like, fuck them fliers. I'm in magazines now. 2164 01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:33,720 Speaker 4: Around the same time, when I moved, I put all 2165 01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:40,160 Speaker 4: my record collection, all my photo albums, all that stuff 2166 01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:42,840 Speaker 4: in storage. I had a storage unit from two thousand 2167 01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:48,880 Speaker 4: and five till to my knowledge to now just recently. 2168 01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:51,800 Speaker 4: I went looking for it right when COVID hit, I 2169 01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,920 Speaker 4: had this other phone. I had another phone number. It 2170 01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:58,040 Speaker 4: was a T Mobile, and the phone was broke and 2171 01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:00,479 Speaker 4: the T Mobile stores were closed, and that's how I 2172 01:54:00,560 --> 01:54:03,200 Speaker 4: used to pay my bill for my storage unit and 2173 01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:07,040 Speaker 4: call me on that number. And by the time the 2174 01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:09,559 Speaker 4: T Mobile, for some reason, I couldn't push six point 2175 01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:13,120 Speaker 4: one to open to get into the phone right. So 2176 01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:15,920 Speaker 4: by the time the T Mobile stores opened up and 2177 01:54:15,960 --> 01:54:18,479 Speaker 4: I went to go get the phone fixed, they were like, oh, 2178 01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:20,879 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, we get we don't have that number anymore. 2179 01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:22,400 Speaker 3: And I'm like, yo, you fucks. 2180 01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:25,120 Speaker 4: I've been with yall for fifteen years, Like how do 2181 01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:27,080 Speaker 4: you just not how can you not give me the number? 2182 01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:29,599 Speaker 4: It was Covid. I couldn't come into the store, so 2183 01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:33,440 Speaker 4: I couldn't get the number back. So then and again 2184 01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:35,640 Speaker 4: I moved into my house in twenty seventeen. 2185 01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:36,760 Speaker 3: If I was. 2186 01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:39,040 Speaker 4: Smart, I would have went to my storage unit, took 2187 01:54:39,080 --> 01:54:41,800 Speaker 4: everything out, and put it into my crib where I 2188 01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:45,920 Speaker 4: had space. Just recently I started to want to go 2189 01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:49,160 Speaker 4: on search to go find the storage unit because it 2190 01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:51,520 Speaker 4: had been so long I didn't even remember where it was. 2191 01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:55,520 Speaker 3: My assistant shot the Mikaylo. She finally found it. 2192 01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:56,560 Speaker 1: She was on Storage Wars. 2193 01:54:56,840 --> 01:55:00,520 Speaker 4: She fal found it, found it. I called them up 2194 01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:03,400 Speaker 4: and they said, oh yeah, we sold it up. 2195 01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:05,040 Speaker 3: We auctioned it off of course. 2196 01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:08,520 Speaker 4: And I was like yo, like no, like bro, that 2197 01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:11,920 Speaker 4: was my whole life, Like so you know, I guess 2198 01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:16,640 Speaker 4: the laws of storages after ninety days, they're able to. 2199 01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:19,720 Speaker 3: Auction it off if you don't pay the bill. And 2200 01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:20,400 Speaker 3: I was like yo. 2201 01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:22,720 Speaker 4: I tried to explain it to them and I was like, look, 2202 01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:26,520 Speaker 4: I understand the records are probably gone, but those those 2203 01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:29,640 Speaker 4: photo albums, like that's history I have. I had pictures 2204 01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:33,040 Speaker 4: of larn Hill like holding my mixtape when I first 2205 01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:36,360 Speaker 4: got to Atlanta, like just shit like that, like old. 2206 01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:38,480 Speaker 2: Whoever bought that unit they thought they got some shit? 2207 01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:40,000 Speaker 2: What if they hold on? 2208 01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:42,120 Speaker 3: That's the skill then, So I called him. 2209 01:55:42,160 --> 01:55:46,320 Speaker 4: I was like yo, please, like I'm a public figure, 2210 01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:48,560 Speaker 4: like I know this is going against it. Can you 2211 01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,400 Speaker 4: please just help me track it down? Like I just 2212 01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:53,200 Speaker 4: want to see if I can kind of come up 2213 01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:55,240 Speaker 4: on it. So then I want so mind you. Then 2214 01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:58,160 Speaker 4: I did the math from two thousand and five to 2215 01:55:58,240 --> 01:56:01,520 Speaker 4: two thousand and twenty, so they basically wound up telling 2216 01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:03,560 Speaker 4: me they auctioned it off November first. 2217 01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:08,320 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sorry November twenty, two thousand and twenty. 2218 01:56:08,840 --> 01:56:12,560 Speaker 4: So between two thousand and five and twenty twenty, I 2219 01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:17,960 Speaker 4: literally paid them twenty five grand in monthly fees for 2220 01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:18,800 Speaker 4: the storage unit. 2221 01:56:20,120 --> 01:56:23,000 Speaker 3: I said, how much did you auction it off for? It? Said? 2222 01:56:23,040 --> 01:56:25,800 Speaker 4: Somebody bought it for three hundred and ninety three dollars 2223 01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:27,280 Speaker 4: and thirteen cents. 2224 01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:29,320 Speaker 1: Is that an angel number? 2225 01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:34,200 Speaker 3: Not even four hundred dollars? 2226 01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:37,040 Speaker 1: Probably has that in a pawn shop in West Bubblefuck. 2227 01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:39,360 Speaker 1: Hold On, one's gonna buy it. Hold On, if it 2228 01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:40,720 Speaker 1: was in the middle of Atlanta, maybe somebody. 2229 01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:44,080 Speaker 4: So then I'm like, I'm like so then they were like, yeah, 2230 01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:45,640 Speaker 4: we didn't have any way to contact you. 2231 01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:48,200 Speaker 3: I guess the business has changed so they didn't have 2232 01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:50,000 Speaker 3: an email. You know. 2233 01:56:50,120 --> 01:56:52,480 Speaker 4: The lady that worked there felt bad. I was like, Yo, 2234 01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:54,640 Speaker 4: can you at least you know? I gave her a 2235 01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:57,040 Speaker 4: couple of dollars on the side, Yeah, to try to 2236 01:56:57,040 --> 01:56:58,880 Speaker 4: help me find the person who bought it. 2237 01:56:58,960 --> 01:57:00,240 Speaker 2: Give them four hundred dollars. 2238 01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:02,880 Speaker 3: Over found the guy. 2239 01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:08,440 Speaker 4: There's an older white man who buys storage units. He 2240 01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:10,400 Speaker 4: didn't want to. He was like, you know, you know, 2241 01:57:10,440 --> 01:57:13,760 Speaker 4: because people that's people's livelihood. I don't want to be 2242 01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:16,320 Speaker 4: I don't want to be known. She She wound up 2243 01:57:16,360 --> 01:57:19,760 Speaker 4: calling him on the side. He tells her, I sold 2244 01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:21,760 Speaker 4: all the records to a store in Atlanta, and I 2245 01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:23,200 Speaker 4: threw out all the photo albums. 2246 01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:26,560 Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, Yo, that's crazy. 2247 01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:32,760 Speaker 3: That hurts the two biggest mistakes. That hurts. That hurts hurts, bro. 2248 01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:37,720 Speaker 4: That hurts the record collection, the photo albums, my flyers. 2249 01:57:38,160 --> 01:57:42,000 Speaker 4: Like that's literally my legacy that I don't. 2250 01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:44,000 Speaker 3: Sad, Bro. 2251 01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:48,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, anybody out there watching this, like, Yo, hold 2252 01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:50,480 Speaker 4: on to your ship, don't feel yourself too much. 2253 01:57:52,920 --> 01:57:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, like hoard, hoard your hoard your your. 2254 01:57:56,840 --> 01:58:00,400 Speaker 4: History, like your memorabilia, like even for even for when 2255 01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:02,280 Speaker 4: my story is told, like when it's time to do 2256 01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:03,120 Speaker 4: the documentary. 2257 01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:05,720 Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, that hurts. 2258 01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:08,600 Speaker 3: It hurts my soul, bro, it hurts my soul. 2259 01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:12,560 Speaker 1: Well, this was on my rapid fire good transition. Where 2260 01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:15,480 Speaker 1: do you find fulfillment outside of work and family. 2261 01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:22,160 Speaker 4: I'm a movie buff, so I'm literally whether it's on 2262 01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:24,760 Speaker 4: my computer or at the house or at my theater 2263 01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:27,640 Speaker 4: room and my crib or going to the movies, like 2264 01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:32,040 Speaker 4: watch movies, movies, movies documentaries. 2265 01:58:33,000 --> 01:58:34,560 Speaker 2: What's your favorite Godfather. 2266 01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:35,880 Speaker 3: Two? 2267 01:58:37,120 --> 01:58:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely two favorite Martin Scorsese. 2268 01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:50,680 Speaker 3: Either The Departed or Raging Bull. Okay, I mean. 2269 01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:58,640 Speaker 4: There's Taxi Driver, there's Shutter Island underrated. Yeah, Shutter Islands dumb, underrated. 2270 01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:04,040 Speaker 4: Oh I'm tripping good Fellas. I'm bugging, I was, I was. 2271 01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:06,520 Speaker 4: I mean, let's say hipop if I'm bad. 2272 01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, good Fellas is number one. Yeah, the party might 2273 01:59:08,680 --> 01:59:09,560 Speaker 3: be number but just. 2274 01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:11,680 Speaker 1: Just shows you dramas number career. As far as doing 2275 01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:15,520 Speaker 1: Raging Bull to then Departed, that's that's gangster grills with 2276 01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:18,120 Speaker 1: t I and then that's Jack Harkin. Like that's just 2277 01:59:18,200 --> 01:59:20,240 Speaker 1: totally different sides of his career. 2278 01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:22,920 Speaker 3: I look at my career like the director. 2279 01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, great, Raging Bull the beginning, and then Departed was 2280 01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:26,560 Speaker 1: the new Generation. 2281 01:59:26,680 --> 01:59:28,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, my bad. I didn't mean to leave out good 2282 01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:31,240 Speaker 3: Fellaws like that. I was. You got to say Casino too, 2283 01:59:32,560 --> 01:59:33,800 Speaker 3: I've lived now now. 2284 01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:36,560 Speaker 2: We and Rory talked about this just last week. Good 2285 01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:37,280 Speaker 2: Fellas all. 2286 01:59:37,120 --> 01:59:39,080 Speaker 3: Casino, good Fellas agree. 2287 01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:42,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, good casino man, And. 2288 01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:46,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna sound offensive. I don't personal to me like 2289 01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:48,160 Speaker 1: you lost a lot in Vegas. 2290 01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:51,640 Speaker 3: No, I just I've had gingers in my life. 2291 01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:53,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's why I didn't want to know that movie, 2292 01:59:54,280 --> 01:59:57,480 Speaker 2: because you can relate to it more. Nah, I need No, 2293 01:59:59,120 --> 02:00:02,680 Speaker 2: it has to be a That's what I'm saying. So 2294 02:00:02,720 --> 02:00:05,200 Speaker 2: those are the best movie I can't. You can't. 2295 02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're going to relate to something as 2296 02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:09,360 Speaker 1: someone that has had a few gingers themselves, yeah, it's 2297 02:00:09,400 --> 02:00:10,600 Speaker 1: not the one thing you want to relate to. This 2298 02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:12,240 Speaker 1: I don't need to watch. This movie is bringing back 2299 02:00:12,240 --> 02:00:16,320 Speaker 1: bad memories. Nothing Henry Hill did I've done before. So 2300 02:00:16,360 --> 02:00:17,000 Speaker 1: it's fun to watch. 2301 02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:19,360 Speaker 4: Lake wound up watching it recently. It was like, bro, 2302 02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:21,640 Speaker 4: I watched it. It was like, damn, this is your life. 2303 02:00:22,240 --> 02:00:24,520 Speaker 2: That's crazy. Last movie. 2304 02:00:24,640 --> 02:00:25,800 Speaker 3: No shots. 2305 02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:33,720 Speaker 4: At Ginger, Yeah at Martin Scorsese. Yeah good but yeah, 2306 02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:35,120 Speaker 4: recipes of radio too. 2307 02:00:35,200 --> 02:00:35,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2308 02:00:35,440 --> 02:00:41,360 Speaker 4: Man. And besides that vacation, I'm award if I wasn't 2309 02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:43,360 Speaker 4: a DJ, I will want to be a surfer. 2310 02:00:43,600 --> 02:00:45,400 Speaker 3: I said this on the future of the movie. 2311 02:00:45,800 --> 02:00:49,560 Speaker 4: You know, because you know I ride waves better than anyone, Like, 2312 02:00:50,240 --> 02:00:53,040 Speaker 4: you know, my waves have lasted longer, you know what 2313 02:00:53,080 --> 02:00:55,960 Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like I'm a surfer, like the way I've 2314 02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:59,280 Speaker 4: navigated through hip hop has been like a surfer, Like 2315 02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:04,160 Speaker 4: I came up watching the Roots and fucking DJ for 2316 02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:07,680 Speaker 4: Bahamadia two, being a part of t I and g 2317 02:01:07,880 --> 02:01:11,880 Speaker 4: Z too, Uzzie and Jack Harlowe and now Tyler and 2318 02:01:11,920 --> 02:01:14,480 Speaker 4: like you know, I'm a I'm the silver surfer. 2319 02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:20,080 Speaker 3: Shout the vacation. I never know the white side. 2320 02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:21,720 Speaker 2: Don't tell me you never got in the water and 2321 02:01:21,720 --> 02:01:22,200 Speaker 2: surfed out. 2322 02:01:23,320 --> 02:01:24,960 Speaker 1: This is gonna be our next segment. Three of us 2323 02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:26,640 Speaker 1: are going to an island and we are going to 2324 02:01:26,680 --> 02:01:27,320 Speaker 1: take surfing. 2325 02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:32,320 Speaker 4: Any war Like my my dream goal is I'm a 2326 02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:35,920 Speaker 4: fish like snorkeling when they try to give you the life. 2327 02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:38,560 Speaker 4: Get that ship out of here. I'm jumping right in 2328 02:01:39,720 --> 02:01:43,200 Speaker 4: no vest like so I'm a fish when it comes. 2329 02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:44,960 Speaker 3: To water, Like I love water. 2330 02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:48,680 Speaker 4: I love I love vacation and where there's water and 2331 02:01:48,920 --> 02:01:50,520 Speaker 4: you know it's something soft next to me. 2332 02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:55,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, I like that vacation you jump. 2333 02:01:55,360 --> 02:02:01,080 Speaker 4: On the coral. But but yeah, movies and vacations with 2334 02:02:01,200 --> 02:02:03,800 Speaker 4: the oceans, you know, those are those are where I 2335 02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:10,200 Speaker 4: find tranquility. 2336 02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:13,760 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, well listen, man, I just want you to 2337 02:02:14,560 --> 02:02:18,360 Speaker 2: oh last question versus who wins you or DJ. 2338 02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:22,720 Speaker 3: Called So how about we just do it and let's 2339 02:02:22,720 --> 02:02:23,480 Speaker 3: see who wins. 2340 02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:26,360 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm with you. 2341 02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:27,520 Speaker 1: Do we throw a clue in the mix? 2342 02:02:28,840 --> 02:02:31,840 Speaker 3: You could throw anybody in the mix and let's see 2343 02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:32,360 Speaker 3: who wins. 2344 02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:36,560 Speaker 1: I like, that's that's the JD energy. Whenevery's saying puff. 2345 02:02:36,960 --> 02:02:39,160 Speaker 1: JD's like, let's just do it. No one else wants 2346 02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:39,480 Speaker 1: to do it. 2347 02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:43,560 Speaker 4: You know, I want all the smoke. I want all 2348 02:02:43,600 --> 02:02:48,440 Speaker 4: the smoke, and you know and solute the galat like 2349 02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:53,800 Speaker 4: you know, you know both guys have you know, I 2350 02:02:53,800 --> 02:02:56,400 Speaker 4: wouldn't be here for it wasn't for DJ Clue and call. 2351 02:02:56,480 --> 02:03:00,040 Speaker 4: It has set the bar for DJs to it and 2352 02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:02,680 Speaker 4: an incredible level absolutely. 2353 02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:02,400 Speaker 3: You know. 2354 02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:08,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, when it comes down to versus, like what 2355 02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:13,280 Speaker 4: like I got a lot of cultural records, Like I 2356 02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:18,840 Speaker 4: am not to be underestimated. So like, you know, I 2357 02:03:18,880 --> 02:03:23,320 Speaker 4: see Swizzing and Tim going through something with versus. But like, yo, 2358 02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:26,800 Speaker 4: I've been calling niggas out for over a year now, 2359 02:03:26,960 --> 02:03:30,800 Speaker 4: like what if my name comes, if if they want 2360 02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:34,800 Speaker 4: it to happen, I'm I'm ready. I'm I'm taking anybody 2361 02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:37,680 Speaker 4: and it comes when it comes to that space, and like, yeah, 2362 02:03:37,880 --> 02:03:39,760 Speaker 4: do I get to do I get to play little 2363 02:03:39,800 --> 02:03:41,600 Speaker 4: Uzi Vert and Jack Harlow because that's part of my 2364 02:03:41,680 --> 02:03:45,840 Speaker 4: repertoire too. Why yeah, if it's on my mixtape, I'm 2365 02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:47,240 Speaker 4: playing it and it's my song. 2366 02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:48,960 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of stuff before you get 2367 02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:51,400 Speaker 1: to Uzi. And as much as I love Uzi and Jack, 2368 02:03:51,440 --> 02:03:53,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if they even make the twenty. 2369 02:03:54,640 --> 02:03:55,440 Speaker 2: It's a lot of ship. 2370 02:03:55,680 --> 02:03:56,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. 2371 02:03:56,160 --> 02:03:58,000 Speaker 2: I want to see it, set it. I want to 2372 02:03:58,000 --> 02:03:58,320 Speaker 2: see it. 2373 02:03:58,520 --> 02:03:59,720 Speaker 3: I want to set it up. 2374 02:04:00,040 --> 02:04:02,640 Speaker 1: I know you did mixtapes for Fab and for Wayne, 2375 02:04:02,720 --> 02:04:06,760 Speaker 1: but how did you feel witnessing me smoke moll in 2376 02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:12,879 Speaker 1: the Wayne versus Fab versus on live during COVID What happened? 2377 02:04:13,160 --> 02:04:13,960 Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. 2378 02:04:14,320 --> 02:04:17,040 Speaker 2: A lot of the records that first of all. 2379 02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:19,320 Speaker 1: Anytime you say, first of all, you know he's gonna do. 2380 02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:21,280 Speaker 2: It that night. But Rory was adamant on doing this. 2381 02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:24,360 Speaker 2: I said, I didn't. I didn't realize a lot of 2382 02:04:24,360 --> 02:04:26,800 Speaker 2: the Fab records that I wanted to play were not 2383 02:04:27,200 --> 02:04:28,880 Speaker 2: like I had to go to like other apps to 2384 02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:30,600 Speaker 2: get them, like I had to go to dat pif 2385 02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:31,240 Speaker 2: I had to go, and it. 2386 02:04:31,320 --> 02:04:34,240 Speaker 1: Was just like it was a mixtape versus Yeah, but I. 2387 02:04:34,160 --> 02:04:36,560 Speaker 2: Thought I had a lot of that in my laptop already, 2388 02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:38,800 Speaker 2: but I didn't because I had a whole new laptop 2389 02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:42,880 Speaker 2: and I just wasn't prepared. So you were dip sat absolutely, yeah, 2390 02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:46,520 Speaker 2: you did absolutely didn't come absolutely absolutely And. 2391 02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:52,160 Speaker 1: I was kissed when said Yo techto something on yeah Rory. 2392 02:04:52,440 --> 02:04:52,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2393 02:04:52,760 --> 02:04:55,360 Speaker 2: But I still think that Fab doesn't get enough credit 2394 02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:56,720 Speaker 2: for his mixtape. 2395 02:04:56,240 --> 02:04:57,680 Speaker 1: And I think you're part of the reason. 2396 02:04:57,560 --> 02:04:57,920 Speaker 3: Of course. 2397 02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:01,200 Speaker 4: I mean, even Fabs Versus should have went different, like 2398 02:05:01,520 --> 02:05:04,280 Speaker 4: you know, he was too laid back and not prepare 2399 02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:08,760 Speaker 4: like you know, kiss Kiss, and his verses came more ready, 2400 02:05:08,880 --> 02:05:09,520 Speaker 4: like you know, and. 2401 02:05:10,040 --> 02:05:13,000 Speaker 1: When you add in the locks and bad boy era. Yeah, 2402 02:05:13,000 --> 02:05:14,880 Speaker 1: Fab is a legend, but it's tough to go against 2403 02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:15,520 Speaker 1: that type of shit. 2404 02:05:16,160 --> 02:05:21,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, Fab is one 2405 02:05:21,880 --> 02:05:24,480 Speaker 4: of my favorites of all time, and the way he's 2406 02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:28,440 Speaker 4: navigated his career for sure, and it's you know, through 2407 02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:31,200 Speaker 4: twenty years. Like I don't think he even gets the 2408 02:05:31,200 --> 02:05:33,920 Speaker 4: credit he deserves for his bars, like even with the 2409 02:05:33,920 --> 02:05:37,520 Speaker 4: new record, even with Forever, like you know that Versus 2410 02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:39,880 Speaker 4: is a little older. Yeah, And like when I was 2411 02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:41,600 Speaker 4: told him I was ready to put the record out, 2412 02:05:41,640 --> 02:05:43,240 Speaker 4: he was mad at me because he was like, yo, 2413 02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:46,480 Speaker 4: like that old ass verse. I'm like, nigga, like you're 2414 02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:51,600 Speaker 4: it's still like you you're spitting like stupid. Like I 2415 02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:54,040 Speaker 4: could see if it was like an old reference. 2416 02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:56,320 Speaker 2: In there that was like that Tom, Yeah that. 2417 02:05:56,320 --> 02:05:58,880 Speaker 3: Tom stamped it. But it wasn't like and fab Is. 2418 02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:02,800 Speaker 4: You know, fab Is is one of those, you know, 2419 02:06:02,960 --> 02:06:05,080 Speaker 4: one of the greats with you know, great bars and 2420 02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:06,919 Speaker 4: Wayne versus fab. 2421 02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:10,240 Speaker 3: Is a hell of a hell of a versus. But yeah, 2422 02:06:10,280 --> 02:06:10,920 Speaker 3: you got smoked. 2423 02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:14,440 Speaker 2: Yeah it's okay, Sorry, it happens. 2424 02:06:14,480 --> 02:06:16,360 Speaker 4: And those are two guys that you know, I was 2425 02:06:16,400 --> 02:06:18,240 Speaker 4: on there because you know, I was so hyped that 2426 02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:21,000 Speaker 4: it was two guys that I had so much like 2427 02:06:21,600 --> 02:06:24,600 Speaker 4: music with too, So you know, from a from an 2428 02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:26,240 Speaker 4: egotistical standpoint, I was. 2429 02:06:26,280 --> 02:06:27,320 Speaker 2: Wanting to hear it. 2430 02:06:27,320 --> 02:06:28,080 Speaker 1: It was gonna be you. 2431 02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:30,400 Speaker 4: Yes, I was just like to hear my drops and 2432 02:06:30,440 --> 02:06:32,240 Speaker 4: my voice walked through it, and I was all in 2433 02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:34,480 Speaker 4: the comments like yeah, yeah. 2434 02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:36,600 Speaker 1: It was fun. I kind of missed. That was probably 2435 02:06:36,640 --> 02:06:38,360 Speaker 1: the better part of COVID. He was just trying to 2436 02:06:38,360 --> 02:06:39,840 Speaker 1: find ways to be entertaining. 2437 02:06:39,680 --> 02:06:43,320 Speaker 2: Like versus better in that. Although I'm glad we got 2438 02:06:43,720 --> 02:06:44,760 Speaker 2: locks and dips. 2439 02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:49,200 Speaker 3: With Yeah, I'm glad we got GZ and Bouci Brandy. 2440 02:06:49,360 --> 02:06:50,839 Speaker 2: That would have never happened on versus. 2441 02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:53,240 Speaker 1: I thinkably would have been safer if it would have been. 2442 02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:57,400 Speaker 4: Safe night I was there, it was, you know, it 2443 02:06:57,440 --> 02:06:59,040 Speaker 4: was a good night. Yeah, I mean it was a 2444 02:06:59,160 --> 02:07:01,880 Speaker 4: it was a bunch of them like dmxus snoop. But 2445 02:07:02,040 --> 02:07:05,959 Speaker 4: then but again, like I think the culmination of what dipset, 2446 02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:09,040 Speaker 4: dip Set and the Locks was like I'm sure y'all 2447 02:07:09,080 --> 02:07:11,360 Speaker 4: felt the same way. Like I was literally in front 2448 02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:14,440 Speaker 4: of my television like a thirteen year old girl watching 2449 02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:15,720 Speaker 4: a Justin Bieber concert. 2450 02:07:16,560 --> 02:07:20,160 Speaker 1: I still rewatched it was I still watched it. 2451 02:07:20,200 --> 02:07:22,640 Speaker 3: We just watched it on the bus like on tour. 2452 02:07:24,080 --> 02:07:26,880 Speaker 2: The thing I didn't like before it was online, everybody 2453 02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:29,800 Speaker 2: had like even Rory the Dips gonna kill him. I'm like, 2454 02:07:29,840 --> 02:07:33,760 Speaker 2: y'all don't know the Locks was signed with like that boy, 2455 02:07:33,880 --> 02:07:34,400 Speaker 2: I don't remember. 2456 02:07:35,240 --> 02:07:37,600 Speaker 1: This was the other podcast I know, and I remember 2457 02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:39,920 Speaker 1: saying that Dips will get New York, but Locks has 2458 02:07:39,960 --> 02:07:41,720 Speaker 1: the world, and everyone killed me for saying that it's 2459 02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:43,040 Speaker 1: the other way around. I'm like, no, it's not. 2460 02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:45,080 Speaker 4: No, I went you had the Dips. Want to know 2461 02:07:45,920 --> 02:07:49,440 Speaker 4: I did. I went on I went on y'all exes show. 2462 02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:52,600 Speaker 4: He called me and I. 2463 02:07:52,520 --> 02:07:53,800 Speaker 1: Went another ginger. 2464 02:07:54,920 --> 02:07:57,000 Speaker 3: He called me, and. 2465 02:07:56,760 --> 02:07:59,240 Speaker 4: You know, I was on there saying that I thought 2466 02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:02,040 Speaker 4: Dips was gonna take it. I guess I don't know 2467 02:08:02,040 --> 02:08:04,360 Speaker 4: if he had heard I said it, but we had 2468 02:08:04,360 --> 02:08:07,480 Speaker 4: it out and I had to call and apologize that 2469 02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:10,160 Speaker 4: I was wrong and then stole. And then on the 2470 02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:14,240 Speaker 4: Breakfast Club, I guess Styles caught caught that that I 2471 02:08:14,280 --> 02:08:16,800 Speaker 4: said that, and when they asked him, they was like, yo, 2472 02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:19,680 Speaker 4: who are you upset about that? Like, you know, counted 2473 02:08:19,760 --> 02:08:22,760 Speaker 4: y'all out? And Style was like, drum, like I did 2474 02:08:22,760 --> 02:08:25,600 Speaker 4: a gangster grills with drum? How did drum count me out? 2475 02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:28,160 Speaker 3: And I was like damn. And then Kiss was like, nah, 2476 02:08:28,240 --> 02:08:30,840 Speaker 3: drums getting too much money. He doesn't even know what's 2477 02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:31,320 Speaker 3: going on. 2478 02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:33,480 Speaker 1: And that's not Trump taking my flowers. Because we were 2479 02:08:33,480 --> 02:08:36,520 Speaker 1: at the Lloyd Banks concert backstage and I told Pe 2480 02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:38,800 Speaker 1: right before they did it a few days I said, 2481 02:08:38,800 --> 02:08:41,680 Speaker 1: if y'all don't come out to fuck you, you shouldn't 2482 02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:43,760 Speaker 1: play you called that one and Styles gave me the 2483 02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:46,440 Speaker 1: credit afterwards and said, yeah, when I I've seen Rory 2484 02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:49,320 Speaker 1: said play fuck you first that's the way to start. No, 2485 02:08:49,400 --> 02:08:50,520 Speaker 1: I had I had the Locks. 2486 02:08:50,640 --> 02:08:53,600 Speaker 3: You did, Yeah, he did, and you had. 2487 02:08:53,720 --> 02:08:55,640 Speaker 1: Listen it was recorded, so I could be totally wrong, 2488 02:08:55,680 --> 02:08:56,360 Speaker 1: but I know that. 2489 02:08:57,840 --> 02:08:58,200 Speaker 3: Lake had. 2490 02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:00,600 Speaker 2: You can't be shot with bad boys and rough riders 2491 02:09:00,600 --> 02:09:03,040 Speaker 2: like it's just bro But. 2492 02:09:02,720 --> 02:09:08,720 Speaker 4: But what I will say is the Locks benefited from 2493 02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:12,280 Speaker 4: the way the platform was absolutely at the time that 2494 02:09:12,440 --> 02:09:17,839 Speaker 4: if it would have been, it would have been different 2495 02:09:18,520 --> 02:09:22,440 Speaker 4: because of because of us seeing their chemistry as a group, 2496 02:09:22,840 --> 02:09:27,840 Speaker 4: and because of their showmanship and you know, dipset. 2497 02:09:27,440 --> 02:09:29,640 Speaker 2: Like and Kiss is a better rapper than people think. 2498 02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:32,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, if we'd have just been at home, they 2499 02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:35,120 Speaker 4: would have been playing songs, it would have rang off 2500 02:09:35,160 --> 02:09:35,880 Speaker 4: a little different. 2501 02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:41,120 Speaker 3: But the Locks put on a masterclass, like you know, legendary, 2502 02:09:41,440 --> 02:09:41,600 Speaker 3: and I. 2503 02:09:41,560 --> 02:09:44,120 Speaker 4: Would do the same fucking thing if I get my verses. 2504 02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:47,200 Speaker 4: Mm hmm, I'm really like that. 2505 02:09:48,160 --> 02:09:50,080 Speaker 1: And now I think about him verse Calid, because calib 2506 02:09:50,120 --> 02:09:54,240 Speaker 1: we know is obviously extremely charismatic and talks. But I 2507 02:09:54,240 --> 02:09:55,920 Speaker 1: think you would be his match and that I think 2508 02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:58,120 Speaker 1: you could beat Calid in the polls. The talk game 2509 02:09:58,160 --> 02:10:04,040 Speaker 1: too set it up, performed, I think I think to 2510 02:10:04,040 --> 02:10:08,480 Speaker 1: bring you back to it, did you did you not you. 2511 02:10:08,680 --> 02:10:10,920 Speaker 4: So you lost your wallet, so you don't you didn't 2512 02:10:10,960 --> 02:10:13,080 Speaker 4: see what I did on stage, and you don't. 2513 02:10:13,080 --> 02:10:13,680 Speaker 3: You don't lost. 2514 02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:17,040 Speaker 4: To my Instagram. You got to see what I do 2515 02:10:17,080 --> 02:10:20,120 Speaker 4: on stage? Like yeah, yeah, I'm really like that, Like 2516 02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:24,800 Speaker 4: I'm the full package. Yeah, nobody's outperforming me. 2517 02:10:25,080 --> 02:10:26,800 Speaker 2: All right, I'm going to see it happen. 2518 02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:30,080 Speaker 1: Oh and I didn't even get the connection between Tyler's 2519 02:10:30,080 --> 02:10:32,160 Speaker 1: beef with Kalid. Oh yeah, this could get this could 2520 02:10:32,200 --> 02:10:35,920 Speaker 1: get messy, This could get really messy. I just want 2521 02:10:35,920 --> 02:10:38,240 Speaker 1: to be there because you've got to bring Tyler out 2522 02:10:38,640 --> 02:10:40,160 Speaker 1: against Oh. 2523 02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:43,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot about Yeah. I 2524 02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:47,280 Speaker 4: played my fucking Grammy Award winning album. 2525 02:10:49,800 --> 02:10:51,800 Speaker 2: Let's make it happy versus. 2526 02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:54,760 Speaker 4: Got to make that great for the culture. Man, it 2527 02:10:54,880 --> 02:10:58,440 Speaker 4: is an enormous figure within the culture. He's done some 2528 02:10:58,600 --> 02:11:02,440 Speaker 4: amazing No, I don't know if you get him on here, 2529 02:11:02,440 --> 02:11:04,120 Speaker 4: if he's going to tell you the same about me. 2530 02:11:04,280 --> 02:11:07,080 Speaker 1: But no, calib will only talk to Elliott Wilson. 2531 02:11:07,080 --> 02:11:07,800 Speaker 2: He won't listen. 2532 02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:08,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. 2533 02:11:09,120 --> 02:11:13,600 Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with saluting anybody in the game, 2534 02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:17,640 Speaker 4: Like I'll give them their flowers well deserving, but listen, 2535 02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:21,160 Speaker 4: I am like, if we we were talking versus and 2536 02:11:21,200 --> 02:11:22,560 Speaker 4: we're talking twenty records. 2537 02:11:22,640 --> 02:11:26,440 Speaker 3: I'm ready to go, ready to go, play wild thoughts, 2538 02:11:26,440 --> 02:11:28,320 Speaker 3: what do you play? I'm not telling. 2539 02:11:28,520 --> 02:11:32,160 Speaker 1: Okay, I like it. I like it, Like I'm not 2540 02:11:32,200 --> 02:11:33,880 Speaker 1: telling what trying to get this movie? 2541 02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:36,120 Speaker 3: But guess what we've we've talked about it. We we 2542 02:11:36,280 --> 02:11:37,000 Speaker 3: got it all set. 2543 02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:38,120 Speaker 2: You're set, ready to go. 2544 02:11:38,280 --> 02:11:39,160 Speaker 3: I'm ready to go. 2545 02:11:40,200 --> 02:11:42,800 Speaker 4: You know, respectfully, there's gonna be certain artists that might 2546 02:11:42,920 --> 02:11:46,680 Speaker 4: have to do some records with him and then do 2547 02:11:46,840 --> 02:11:47,360 Speaker 4: something with me. 2548 02:11:47,720 --> 02:11:50,800 Speaker 3: We definitely have you know what I'm saying. 2549 02:11:51,120 --> 02:11:53,520 Speaker 1: That would that would actually great. How they did the 2550 02:11:53,800 --> 02:11:57,520 Speaker 1: Lox and dipset where it was like fifteen minutes, fifteen minutes, yeah, Wayne, 2551 02:11:57,520 --> 02:12:00,760 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes back and forth. I mean, and Wayne would 2552 02:12:00,760 --> 02:12:03,800 Speaker 1: probably get exhausted. But if you did per artist for 2553 02:12:03,920 --> 02:12:06,800 Speaker 1: rounds and then do Lake vers Lenny S for the undercard, 2554 02:12:07,960 --> 02:12:08,720 Speaker 1: because there was a. 2555 02:12:08,760 --> 02:12:13,400 Speaker 4: Verse, there is a versus undercard Lake versus Lenny I'm 2556 02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:14,160 Speaker 4: taking late. 2557 02:12:17,200 --> 02:12:18,280 Speaker 3: There There wasn't verses. 2558 02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:20,640 Speaker 4: Wasn't there verses where artists had to come out and 2559 02:12:20,680 --> 02:12:24,879 Speaker 4: do a song with both and non as and appet you're. 2560 02:12:24,680 --> 02:12:27,400 Speaker 2: Talking about he's talking about Ray J and R S. 2561 02:12:27,480 --> 02:12:31,840 Speaker 2: V P Sammy Bobby V was a great one. That 2562 02:12:31,920 --> 02:12:35,320 Speaker 2: was a classic night. That was a classic night. 2563 02:12:35,400 --> 02:12:36,200 Speaker 3: We got a great group. 2564 02:12:36,520 --> 02:12:37,360 Speaker 2: We got that for free. 2565 02:12:37,400 --> 02:12:39,560 Speaker 3: If y'all watched, Do y'all watch Bobby V and Ray 2566 02:12:39,640 --> 02:12:40,360 Speaker 3: J on Live? 2567 02:12:40,840 --> 02:12:43,520 Speaker 2: Yes, it is the funniest I'm waiting for the show. 2568 02:12:43,640 --> 02:12:45,880 Speaker 3: Did you see the one where they were like harmonizing 2569 02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:48,760 Speaker 3: and yes, Ray and Ray was like now you go 2570 02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:51,000 Speaker 3: no no, no, no no, it's like this like. 2571 02:12:50,960 --> 02:12:54,920 Speaker 2: It's the greatest ever by accident there, that's the greatest 2572 02:12:55,440 --> 02:12:56,320 Speaker 2: coach has ever gotten. 2573 02:12:56,480 --> 02:12:57,600 Speaker 3: Absolute TV show. 2574 02:12:58,800 --> 02:13:01,080 Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Well, we we've catch you here long enough. 2575 02:13:01,680 --> 02:13:03,680 Speaker 2: We appreciate you coming by kicking it with us. Man, 2576 02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:06,800 Speaker 2: we wanted to just salute you and say congrats on everything. Bro. 2577 02:13:07,040 --> 02:13:09,400 Speaker 2: You know, I feel like your name is not mentioned 2578 02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:13,200 Speaker 2: enough when we start talking about labels and executives, like 2579 02:13:13,600 --> 02:13:15,360 Speaker 2: we definitely need to start mentioning you more. So we 2580 02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:17,440 Speaker 2: appreciate you coming by kicking with us. So, man, I 2581 02:13:17,480 --> 02:13:20,000 Speaker 2: thank you and salute on the grim because that's. 2582 02:13:20,720 --> 02:13:22,080 Speaker 1: Are we allowed to talk about the ship you and 2583 02:13:22,120 --> 02:13:25,240 Speaker 1: I are trying to put together? Should we waiting not 2584 02:13:25,280 --> 02:13:26,440 Speaker 1: trying to put putting together? 2585 02:13:26,480 --> 02:13:28,880 Speaker 3: Can we can we could we could tease it a 2586 02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:30,560 Speaker 3: little bit. Yeah, there is. 2587 02:13:30,600 --> 02:13:32,200 Speaker 1: Some podcasts Gangster Grills. 2588 02:13:32,280 --> 02:13:35,600 Speaker 3: There's something in the work centered Yeah, shot. 2589 02:13:35,400 --> 02:13:37,960 Speaker 1: Shot Centergy, all the all the buzzwords, shouting my brother 2590 02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:40,600 Speaker 1: Kenya Baris, Yes, shouting Kenya Barrus. 2591 02:13:40,600 --> 02:13:43,440 Speaker 3: And Weezy He's go ahead. 2592 02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:47,440 Speaker 1: Not not the rapper, just Weezy Weezy. The podcast. 2593 02:13:48,840 --> 02:13:50,280 Speaker 4: She said she was gonna come out. She's doing her 2594 02:13:50,280 --> 02:13:53,920 Speaker 4: podcast right now. Congratulations start too. But yeah, definitely have 2595 02:13:54,080 --> 02:13:59,440 Speaker 4: some Gangster Grills podcasts. Uh uh, situations in the works. 2596 02:13:59,240 --> 02:14:00,520 Speaker 1: Which I'm really excited about. 2597 02:14:00,920 --> 02:14:03,280 Speaker 2: Dope. Well, thank you, man, I appreciate you. We see 2598 02:14:03,320 --> 02:14:04,880 Speaker 2: you soon. We got to come catch you on the road. 2599 02:14:05,200 --> 02:14:06,480 Speaker 2: Come one of the shows. I got to see the 2600 02:14:06,480 --> 02:14:07,800 Speaker 2: show because I didn't see it that about. 2601 02:14:07,840 --> 02:14:10,760 Speaker 3: Because when you just said that about showmanship and on stage. 2602 02:14:10,480 --> 02:14:11,280 Speaker 2: I gotta come see it. 2603 02:14:12,240 --> 02:14:13,040 Speaker 3: That a little person. 2604 02:14:13,120 --> 02:14:16,520 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I apologize. Thank you, Bro, appreciate you. 2605 02:14:16,520 --> 02:14:17,880 Speaker 3: You wanted me to talk about it. I've been talk 2606 02:14:17,920 --> 02:14:21,640 Speaker 3: about ship Paul. I love share that. Congratched y'all. Man, 2607 02:14:21,720 --> 02:14:23,280 Speaker 3: thank you all the success and everything. 2608 02:14:23,480 --> 02:14:23,800 Speaker 2: Thank you. 2609 02:14:23,920 --> 02:14:27,240 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, man, love no worry enough