WEBVTT - The Group Chat Episode 39: Courageous Departure 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:12.760 You've been added to the group chat with your friends 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:19.560 Caroline can, Max Enson, and Will Brian. Human history has 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:24.439 been shaped by courageous departure Italian explorer Christopher Columbus across 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:28.360 the Atlantic, Lewis and Clark through the Louisiana Purchase, Babe 0:00:28.400 --> 0:00:30.720 Ruth from the Red Sox to the Yankees, the Beatles 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:34.120 from Liverpool to the States, and David Tepper from Goldman 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:38.160 Sachs to Appolus. Change is difficult, but it's often necessary 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:41.720 for real growth, and so, like the monarch caterpillar becoming 0:00:41.760 --> 0:00:45.760 a butterfly, today we celebrate the courageous departure of Caroline 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:49.440 Can a k A c C and Max Henson a 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:54.000 k A Max Henson. These two colorful, talented young adult 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:58.560 links have touched us all, but they've grown wings and 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:02.080 now it's time for them to fall on. I'm mcmixon, 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:09.360 Welcome to a historic group chat. That was everything I 0:01:09.360 --> 0:01:11.760 hope that was gonna be it more and more. We 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:15.399 knew that this news could not come from us. We 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:19.000 needed someone to come in and and make it special, 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.200 and Mick, you nailed it. You did that for us. 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:27.720 Thank you. I feel before we got it here, I 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:30.480 was like, you know, Mickey, you know you prepared something right, 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.440 And he was like, no, I don't believe in preparation. 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.280 And I was like okay, then, like you know, I 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.680 guess he maybe he just does this stuff just completely 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:39.240 off the top of his head. And then of course 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:40.919 we were as soon as we get ready to record, 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:42.959 outcomes a notebook and he's got some words written. And 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.600 I was like, oh, this is gonna be good when 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:47.560 you get to be my age that your cognition is 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.600 not what it what it once was. But I'm gonna 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.320 miss you guys. Thank you for having me on the 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.080 show and w B, it's good to see you. This 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.000 is kind of sad. I mean, it's a little melancholy. 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:59.680 You guys have have been amazing. And CC when she 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:03.400 for came in, um, I think, um she and I 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.600 kind of identified with one another right away. That that, 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:10.920 and I loved how she's a curious minded individual. She's 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:15.480 a gifted interviewer. She listens like a Rottweiler terrier and 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:17.840 you know on air talent though is really rare. But 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:21.080 in my mind, when I learned more about Caroline and 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.680 how the kind of thought she puts into relationships and 0:02:25.360 --> 0:02:28.519 gift giving and and she thinks of other people first. 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.480 And that's a rare quality in our business. And the 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:34.960 legend of Maximilian Jay Henson. My golly man. He he 0:02:35.080 --> 0:02:37.880 came in just a little skinny, scrawny little thing. He 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:42.400 kind of reminded me of myself, a slightly less good looking, robust, 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.760 alpha male version of me. And um and Max. I've 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.640 enjoyed getting to be friends and and being a coworker 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.639 of you for these years. Well, I have to say 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.560 I knew that you were lying when you said you 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:56.280 didn't prepare for this, because every Saturday of away games, 0:02:56.360 --> 0:03:00.280 I would witness Meck writing his script to en up 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.520 the game of the next day. This is in between 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:06.400 cheese bites from our plane charcuterie board that we would have. 0:03:06.520 --> 0:03:11.560 But I feel privileged to have a script written in 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.440 your notebook that you opened so many games with this 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.600 past season. We'll put this on eBay and it will 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:21.760 probably go for one cent or historical. I'm not affairs 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:24.799 manager with him. Yeah, put that in the museum. So 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:27.600 where are you where you guys? Headed to the hard 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:29.360 What's the meaning of this? How could you do this 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.520 to us? I know no one leaves the mother ship. 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:36.040 I know it's true. Well, I don't know if you 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:42.520 know this. I'm getting married, I know, and it's still 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.760 on an um. Distance. Marriage was not something that Parks 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:47.920 and I wanted to sign up for. So I'm heading 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:51.200 back to Indianapolis to begin our lives together, and I'm 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:55.240 I'm getting out of football completely. I'm well, I'm marrying football, 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.080 so that's going to keep me in it. I'm not 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.600 getting I'm not getting out of football the marrying it, 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.840 but I'm gonna I'm gonna work in the nonprofit world. 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.120 So I'm starting with a new foundation in Indianapolis, and 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.760 I'm excited. You're gonna make the world a better place. 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.560 There's no room for that in football. So it's a 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.280 good well. I always said if if I there were 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.240 two ways that I was going to get out of football. 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.640 One if I was having kids. I'm not there yet 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.839 where we would love that one day, but this is 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.080 not that day. Or if I was able to help 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:26.640 people and do something that that is. This is a 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:28.200 fun job, but I want to be able to go 0:04:28.240 --> 0:04:30.080 home and be fulfilled that I was able to help people. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.520 So this was this was my opportunity. So I'm taking it. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.960 So Maximilian is already Mary, So what's your excuse? I 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:39.360 am getting out of football? Um, just kind of taking 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.120 things in a little bit of a different direction here. 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.320 I feel like I've had a really great run doing 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.599 let's a very fun job but also a very all 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:50.040 consuming and challenging job, and just priorities have changed a 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:52.279 little bit for me personally, and just sort of felt 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:55.200 this was the right time to challenge myself in something 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.720 a little bit different. Um, which is hard to do 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:02.240 because this is been so awesome and this was my 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.920 my dream job was to do exactly what I'm doing 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.599 right now. Um, but the dream has sort of changed, 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:09.000 I guess it's the best way to put it. And 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:12.960 so we say where you're going, Um, well, let's just 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:17.440 say I'm moving into the corporate communications world, so discount 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:22.920 corporate communication products with UM. So it'll be it'll be 0:05:22.960 --> 0:05:28.039 a different sort of pace and feel to it, for sure. UM. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:29.680 But I just think it's I think it's time. It's 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:31.920 It's as hard as it might be to say, of 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:38.600 what since you've worked here, are you most proud man? Uh? Individually, 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.839 I would say in the eight years Panther fans just 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.880 being able to trust that when I have something to say, 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:51.400 it's um there's credibility to it. I think that's personally 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.159 what I'm most proud of is just what I've been 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.760 able to develop with the readers and fans who followed 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:59.280 this team over eight seasons collectively. How far we've come 0:05:59.279 --> 0:06:01.520 as Digital part been from twelve to where we are 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.039 now is without a doubt, what I'm most proud of. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.200 I mean, I'm the only person left from the group 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:11.120 that I walked into in everybody else has since came 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:16.640 after um Or has left themselves, so it's changed so dramatically, 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.560 And I'm super proud of the work we did in twelve. 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.159 You know, that's not to say that we didn't do 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.359 great work back then, but the way it's evolved, and 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:25.360 the people that we brought in, the amount of talent, 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.279 and you know, the level of just Panthers Digital is on. 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.040 We've said this for a long time. We've punched above 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.839 our weight for a long time, and I think a 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:35.279 lot of people have had a hand in that. So 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.839 to be a small part of it, uh, And you 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:39.400 want to you want to leave a place better than 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.159 you found it, right, And I sort of feel like 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.640 I can. I can say that confidently with where this 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:47.040 this group is at, no arguments. What about you c C. 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:50.800 I think how quickly I don't know if it was 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:54.719 the fan base accepting me or how I meshed with 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.960 the fan base, but I was only here for not 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:00.400 even a year, eleven months, and I feel you'll, like, 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.640 I know Panther fans and that they know me, and 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:05.480 that it wasn't just a one way streets. I think 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.160 a lot of times in the media it's I never 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.440 see who I'm speaking to, but they see me through 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.200 social media or videos that I do or interviews, so 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.480 it can sometimes feel like a one way street. But 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.240 I feel really proud of the fact that I tried 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.480 to get to know Panther fans quickly. I tried to 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:25.520 answer questions. I tried to, you know, follow them on 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:28.000 social media and see what their lives were like and 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:32.480 and quickly get to know Panthers fans and growing up one. 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.440 I think I had a bit of a leg up 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.160 on that, but I'm pretty proud that I think even 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.600 leaving here, people will still be invested in my life 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:42.640 because I let them get to know me, and I 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.440 got to know them and It wasn't just because on 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.960 Sundays we were talking about the same thing. It was, 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:51.040 you know, on Tuesday we were sharing you know, where 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.400 we were eating or you know what what we were 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.520 doing outside of just the football world. And um, I 0:07:56.560 --> 0:07:58.480 think that's I think that's rare. I think that takes 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:00.320 a great fan base to allow me to do that. 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:02.560 But then you know, I'm I'm proud of the way 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.200 that I went about it for eleven months of doing it. 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:11.360 What will you miss most about this? Gig h. This 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:16.520 has been my identity for my whole life. Sports has 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.640 been and from the time I was you know, playing 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.240 everyone plays soccer when they're little, and then you go 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:26.080 into high school and you still play sports, and volleyball 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:27.960 was what I chose. So I played that at the 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.240 next level in college, and then I got out and 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.839 started covering sports. So I've always been able to say, oh, 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.040 I'm Caroline can and I do this in sports, and 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.640 sports is so easy to talk about. Everyone wants to 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:41.960 know about it. I think what I'm going to miss 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:47.240 and and have to find again is just what is 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:50.360 the new identity of me? What what you know? When 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:54.040 when people ask, oh, you know, Caroline, what do you 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.400 do or you know, what do you consider? You know, 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:59.120 whatever it is. I mean, that's been a big deal 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:00.760 for me, and I think to put it perfectly on 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:02.480 him and I were talking about it just last week. 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:06.160 Of the decision to to take this next step in 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:09.360 our careers was easy. We knew it was the right decision. 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:13.160 Our lives are going in a different direction. But then 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:16.280 going through the process of doing that and detaching yourself 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.559 from what has been your identity for your entire life 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:22.840 pretty much is the most difficult part. And it's gonna 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:28.200 be hard to just watch the world continue, the world 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:30.400 that you've worked in for so long, to just keep 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:33.920 going full steam ahead while you've exited, because you put 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.200 so much into this and you put, you know, all 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.840 of your time and your effort and everything that you 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:41.559 have into this job, and and to to step away 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.080 from it is the right decision, but it's gonna be 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:49.320 tough to to do everything you just said completely feel 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:52.760 the same way. I would say, I'll miss just the 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:57.040 adrenaline rush that comes with you know, whether it's something 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.880 as walking into the stadium before the NF Championship game 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:03.400 and just knowing all that it's about to take place 0:10:03.679 --> 0:10:06.680 and then so just something as simple as like knowing 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:09.360 I've got a really good story and hitting published and 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.160 knowing that people are about to really enjoy what I've 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:17.000 put together. Um, that that feeling is what I'll miss 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:21.439 for sure. Keep in touch. It's been an honor to 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:23.760 work with you both. We said this on the podcast. 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.200 What was this the last one of Hags have a 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.400 great summer? You would write that in your books. We're 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.280 just saying, you know, I have a great season, Hags. Mick, 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:34.800 thanks for everything you did for us. I know we 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.920 worked with you. Thanks for the kind words. Okay, you're beautiful. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:41.040 All right, fine, well, Nick, thank you so much for 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.480 joining us. But he's not our only guest on this. 0:10:43.679 --> 0:10:47.880 What you now have come to realize is the farewell podcast. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.320 This is this is the last group chats that we're 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:54.040 recording live together, the three of us. We do have 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.280 one more episode coming that is just going to put 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:59.920 the bow on the group chatted to be the best 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.320 of coming next week. But we do have a special 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.520 bitter sweets. Um. It has been weird to put this 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:09.680 whole episode together because it has been a lot of 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:14.400 farewell thoughts and how can we make this final group 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.320 chat all three together. We even got a photo taken 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.640 earlier before we started it like a real one. Man. 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.200 I'm just so excited about how Mix started this thing off. 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.240 That was that was He really could not have been 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.520 any better. But we aren't done yet. We have very 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:32.520 special guests coming on the podcast now. But we have 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.800 to say there are many reasons we wanted these next 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.320 two on the podcast, but I think a big reason 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:41.520 because we need their advice on something. I think, you know, 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:45.480 Max and I particularly, we're navigating an interesting part of 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.400 our lives, so we we are bringing on familiar voices 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:51.360 and faces, although you're not going to see them, yeah 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:55.120 in this podcast. Saying goodbye to the Panthers is is 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.760 a difficult thing, and these two are familiar with that 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:01.880 very thing, very very different circum stances. Jake, as we 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.680 all know, had a very emotional goodbye from the team 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:08.200 and um, you know that was a press conference that 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:11.480 I think he still jokes about now, but at the 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.080 time was a lot of raw emotion. And Jordan's was 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.360 a retirement ceremony where we had Ryan Khalil and the 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:20.920 Quartet serenade him too Happy Trails. So to have both 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.680 of them here providing some insight and some advice maybe 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:25.320 as to how to move forward. I think we'll be 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.840 really helpful. It is so there you haven't We're having 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:31.680 Jordan Gross and Jake Dilone join the group Chat. So, guys, 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:34.680 thank you so much for coming on. Well, thanks for 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:37.920 having us. I'm so happy to be on. I've listened 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:40.320 to you guys since the inception with group Chat, and 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.600 I'm a little hurt that I haven't been invited all 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.040 but maybe, but maybe it's the ultimate honor because you 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.800 have to wait until the biggest show to have Jake 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:51.680 and I on. So actually, now that I think about it, 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.600 thank you and I'm flattered. Yes, it's the big finale. 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:56.840 That's that's the only one that we deserve to have 0:12:56.920 --> 0:13:01.240 you guys on, right we there's nothing like listening to 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.560 Max's voice and Caroline like the It's like you guys 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:10.680 are in harmony and different. We're not talking about Will 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:15.320 sticking around. Well, we'll talk about Will whenever he leaves, 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:18.320 but for now, you know, you two it's like a 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:21.920 two octave difference. But the harmony, the harmony is perfect, 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.080 so it's going to be tough to replace. And then 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:27.080 well yeah. And then there's Will, who was actually in 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.760 an acapella group, the only one that knows something about harmony, 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:33.160 can't even join in harmony with us. Well, there you go. 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:36.400 I know. I'm actually why didn't you get invited to 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.679 sing at the press conference? I wasn't here? Then? Well 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:42.120 that was that was in my time in the wilderness, 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.880 after after Jordan's. After Jordan's pranked me as an intern 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:50.200 and then sent me off into the wilderness. You're just 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.040 You're in a long list of people that were pranked 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.360 by me, and most of them failed. Do you remember 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.320 what you did to him? Gosh, I remember having fun 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.760 with Will, but don't remember this specific instance. It. Will 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:05.640 probably has nightmares about this, I really do. I've told 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.080 this story. So the brief version was I was sent 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:11.640 into the weight room to get Jordan's for an interview 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.680 and he was doing uh an ab workout with a 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:22.840 medicine ball. You know, he was not he meant to say, 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:27.680 with a tractor time. And I went up to him 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.000 and I said, hey, Jordan, whenever you get done, they 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.320 need you in the locker room for an interview. And 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:35.840 he kind of stopped midway through to say, wait, what 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.920 what did you say, and the ball kept being thrown 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.120 at him and it hit him in the face. Yeah, 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.960 And then Jerry Simmons, who is the strength coach at 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:47.640 the time, came over and gave me a piece of 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:49.240 his mind. So was it really a prank or did 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.840 it actually happened? It was, It was a prank, but 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:53.720 that went a little bit wrong. The ball was not 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:58.880 supposed to hit Jordan in the face. But yeah, just 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.240 add that to the list of head injuries. Well all 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:06.320 the way through. Well, you guys aren't getting serenaded unless 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.400 Jake and I can come up with something in the 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.120 next couple of minutes here. But I will say you 0:15:11.160 --> 0:15:14.560 are deserving. The players always get a big send off 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.080 and it's always news breaking, but you two both deserve 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:21.400 to have some song and dance surrounding your departure because 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:23.880 you'd be hard pressed to find anybody in the pork 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.320 with either of you that would have negative things to say. 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:31.640 So I I never want she and the emotional and 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:35.720 say awesome only for a year, Max and I spent 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:39.280 more time together than that. But well done, and whoever 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.920 gets you next is lucky to have you and Jake. 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.440 We must we must do something wrong because we both 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.480 showed up for one year together and people are leaving 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:50.160 like crazy. So we gotta figure this out. Man. Everybody 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.760 just I don't understand it. I mean, they just want 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.960 to like get up and leave. Now, the question would be, 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:01.960 are they intimidated by us? Is that I don't I 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.480 don't know. I would doubt. I would doubt that's it. 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:07.720 But that has to be a question that's brought up right. Well, 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.160 you know what really started it for me of me 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:14.920 thinking about leaving was that BS of someone else winning 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.800 Rookie of the Year for our radio Chris. Yeah. I 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.400 mean that that was really the start of the domino 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:25.400 effect that just got me out the door. Jakes the quarterback. 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:30.160 He had to win. There. They're used to people being, 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.680 you know, talking like they're so great and getting the 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.200 big contracts and all that stuff. So he had Jake 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.320 had to win. Plus he was the only true rookie. 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.080 You know, I was here for a short time before, Caroline, 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.280 you've been doing this Jake, Jake's the only rookie. He 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:45.520 needed to win the quarterback. It's the right thing to do. 0:16:45.600 --> 0:16:47.680 I guess he was the only one that technically fit 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.560 the criteria to even win the award, but I still 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.240 think there should have been a closer battle for that one. Yeah, 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:55.880 I just know that when we would throw when we 0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:58.920 throw it down to Caroline on the sidelines and she'd 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:02.920 do her her her update, I'd think, God, I gotta 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:04.920 really get better at this job because she's way better 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:09.240 than me. And then I just try to think of 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:11.600 something that's karenly would. They're like, yeah, so the old lineman, 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:13.800 I can tell you right now, here's what they're thinking. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:19.280 You were just making things up. Oh every single game. 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.840 Don't tell them because I'm coming back next year more 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.760 made up stuff. You know, No, we won't, we won't. 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.640 But who wasn't that said, you've you've listened since the beginning. 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:32.200 That was me Jordan Jordan's what is your what's one 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.240 of your favorite moments from the group chat? I didn't 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.639 What did you guys do the during the awards? One 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:42.639 of the awards shows? Was it? Which one? Was it 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.400 the Auscar? Was it the Oscar? Yeah? That one was good. 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:49.040 That was creative because you had your best dressed and 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:52.160 you had your Oh I like that one. That one's entertaining. 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.560 You know, I get a lot of time. It's you 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.439 guys have made it easy to keep up with the 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:59.320 team because you can only read so many you know, 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:01.600 mixed not was on before us, he's not on now. 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:03.640 To defend itself, you can only get so many, like 0:18:04.200 --> 0:18:08.320 written reports or whatever from the field. Group chat gets 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:12.040 you Panther news, much like this episode today, Panther news 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:16.000 with hardly any serious, natured any of it. So that 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.000 one was good. I mean, you're gonna get a little 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:23.639 bit of Panthers football, Will's calves, anything else that we 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.240 we deem appropriate for that day exactly. But what do 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:32.960 we got, Jake for advice for moving on? I'm sorry, yeah, 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:35.320 I'm I'm sorry. I was polishing my Rookie of the 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:41.040 Year um. For moving on, I think the biggest thing 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.760 and one you don't burn any bridges, which I don't 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.399 think either one of you are burning any bridges. Usually 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.960 you burn the bridge when you get fired or cut, 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.040 and I don't think that's I was the only one 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:56.960 in this group chat that got cut, you know, so 0:18:57.400 --> 0:18:58.800 you don't need to rub it in, but I was 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.919 the only one in Jordan's retired on his terms, you know, 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:04.919 YouTube or whatever. You'll think you're moving on for bigger 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:09.639 and better things, So, uh, don't burn any bridges. Uh. 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:11.879 And and second of all, you never know when you 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.960 can come back. You just never never know. Did you 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:19.920 guys think that you would be back? Well, no, I'd 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.720 be totally honest. I knew at some point. Now it 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.439 took a little time. Yes, you're always going to go 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:28.000 back to Carolina at some point, but to say that 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.120 it would be in the capacity that it is now, 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:34.320 uh No, I can't say that was something at that 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:38.720 time of my life that I truly thought about. I 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:41.640 hoped I would be but when we decided to move 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.160 back home to Idaho, I just thought that the distance 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.280 would be too great for me to be a part 0:19:47.320 --> 0:19:52.640 of things. So incredibly flattered when the conversation came up 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:54.919 to be on the color team. And then just what 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:58.600 an amazing time we live in when you can run 0:19:58.680 --> 0:20:01.560 podcasts or live radio shows or whatever and you don't 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:05.360 even know where everybody is that's on the radio show. Right, 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:09.119 So that's been wonderful. Last Jake said, don't burn any bridges. 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.920 And you guys aren't enjoy being away though too. I'll 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:14.639 say that, you know, when I got done playing football 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.840 and you guys different roles, but you can you can 0:20:17.920 --> 0:20:21.879 understand this, the pressure of the NFL and for you guys, 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.760 the deadlines and to have stories and in website bits 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:29.199 and be up and you have your personality be you know, 0:20:29.320 --> 0:20:31.840 lively and fun all the time like that wears at you. 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:33.439 And for me as a player, you know, I had 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.840 a lot of different roles in a high level of 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.639 pressure on me, and when I said I was done, 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:44.159 it was like it was a giant weight off my shoulders. 0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:46.600 Just to get to exhale a little bit and see 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:49.720 the funny thing that you'll see, especially you know, Caroline, 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:51.320 You'll still be in the football world a bit with 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.639 your husband, um, you know, being with the Colts, but Max, 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:58.359 if you're you know, away from football more, you'll see 0:20:58.400 --> 0:21:01.400 how the whole world lives and half the people out 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.360 there more don't even know what the Panthers are, right, 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.760 And it's funny to say, but like there's this whole 0:21:06.760 --> 0:21:09.400 other world that goes on and it's wonderful to kind 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:10.840 of get to live in that a little while and 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.960 then swoop back in when you want to. So um no, 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.680 it's good stories to tell of where you've been so far, 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:18.520