1 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: All right, get it going right here, right now. This 2 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: is Eyes up Here, and you're listening to a brand 3 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: new Eyes up Here exclusively on the Creative Control podcasting network. 4 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: You didn't know by now My name is Chad and 5 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: every single week I'm joined here in the Eyes up 6 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: Here studio by the one and only Queen of Extreme 7 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: Grant scene. We are getting at it on a beautiful 8 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: Friday morning. I don't know, what would you call this 9 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: the dog days of summer? 10 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: So it don't get caught and hazy and it's just 11 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: way over already. 12 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: What the hell happened? It sucked. I'm sad about that. 13 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: We were in the pool yesterday. 14 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: And I was like, you know that the summer is 15 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: hamp over, Like. 16 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: Where did it go? Where did the time go? 17 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: In Virginia, you know, we're starting to get ready for 20 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: school school stuff. In uh In Michael's they had the 21 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: fall decorations starting. 22 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: After ruin summer. 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: Every year, the back to school commercials are on right 24 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 2: after July fourth, and it's like, let the kids had 25 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: directra month or however, I mean where I live, they 26 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 2: don't go back to school till after Labor Day, so 27 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: we have a lot of time. I mean technically we have, 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 2: you know, more time than you do. 29 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: And I hope school. So we've been doing stuff through 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: the summer. 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: Still been going well, yeah, but not as. 32 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: Hard as like you know, we're homeschooling. 33 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: We could be done in like two hours and ad 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: on the CCD that we're doing. But technically, I mean, 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 2: we wouldn't go back to school until after Labor Day. 36 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: These commercials are a bummer, and I think it gives 37 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: the kids out of anxiety, like let them be. 38 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: Kids didn't enjoy their time off. 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 1: My grandmother used to love the Staples most wonderful time 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: of the year where the dad we have the shopping 41 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: cart going up and down the aisle with the kids 42 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: standing there with their armshold their heads down. 43 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: Dad's all excited. 44 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, my grandmother. Not my grandmother just passed away 45 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: two weeks ago or three weeks ago, but my one 46 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: passed away like twelve years ago. She loved that commercial. 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: That was one of her favorites. 48 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. I just think it's too soon, you know. 49 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: I know they want to sell their product and make 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: their money, but gosh, just let them enjoy themselves. I 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 2: get anxiety and I'm the mother. You know, I couldn't 52 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: imagine like having to go to school these days. 53 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I were ramping up the fall season of softball. 54 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: We just ended the tournament season. You know, that's crazy. 55 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: And then the same thing. You know, I'm very heavily 56 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: involved with the school and the PTO, and we just 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: had our first meeting with principal the other day. It's yeah, 58 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: it really is here. But you know, hey, summer Slam 59 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: hasn't even happened. You know, heat wave wouldn't have happened yet. 60 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: So what are we talking about. Yeah, I know with 61 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: the summer and the summer shows, it was always hot. 62 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: But it's always hot no matter what in July and August. 63 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: That's what I always say to the girls when they complained. 64 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: But you wrestled outside, Okay, you worked in the actual 65 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: sun and in the heat. Did you enjoy doing that 66 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: when when you guys were booked outside. No, didn't like 67 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: outdoor shows. 68 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: Okay, bar A was the worst bar when we would 69 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: do the outdoor summer shows. Number one, one hundred and 70 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: eighty seven degrees. Number two bugs everywhere you're swatting flies 71 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: like it was just everybody was sweaty, snelly on top 72 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: of just the sunbeaming down on you. And it's bad 73 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: when you had the lights, you know, you're hot, and 74 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: the arenas sometimes because of all the light, when you're 75 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: in the scolding sun in the middle. 76 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: Hungreen, it's terrible. 77 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: Aut No, oh, hold on, I'm getting a low wifie. 78 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: I got your froze up there for a second. Was 79 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: there heat coming off the mat too? Was that where 80 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: like when the sun beats down on the mat, was 81 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: there a lot of heat that came off of there too? 82 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: That made it like even more hot? Because they always 83 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: said in baseball with stroke turf right when you played 84 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: on the turf, it added you know, like fifteen degrees 85 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: and made it three times hotter. So did the mat 86 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: make the area surrounding the ring even hotter? 87 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 3: I would say yes, I think the mat was warm 88 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: to the touch. You know. 89 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: When you would be on these outdoor shows, I just 90 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: didn't enjoy them, you know. I mean, obviously I enjoyed working, 91 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: but being that hot. I mean the only consolation for 92 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: me is I didn't wear many. 93 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 3: Clothes much clothing, so it wasn't like I. 94 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: Was out there in a parka trying to run around. 95 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: But it was just scolding hot heat. If I'm not 96 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: in a pool or on a beach, I don't want it. 97 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to be a part of that. So no, 98 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: I did not enjoy outdoor shows. Give me air conditioning, 99 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: you know, give me a good clean environment to work in, 100 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: and I'm a happy camper. 101 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: So you don't mind a certain kind of sweat on 102 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: your your body? Then when you're outdoors in that environment. 103 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 3: No, I do mind sweat. I just don't. 104 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: No, no, no, But I mean, you know, like when you 105 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: don't you don't have that much clothes on. So I'm saying, 106 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's a certain you know what I mean, 107 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: certain kind of sweat. 108 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 3: Now explain yourself. What are you talking about? Get it? 109 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: Move on, move on? 110 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: What sweat are sweat? Boop, sweat, boob cooch, whatever you 111 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 3: want to call it. Yeah, it's it's real, people. Boop 112 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: sweat is real, especially when you have big, big boobs. 113 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: Forget about it. Your cleavage is drenched, the undercarriage is drenched. 114 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,679 Speaker 3: It's disgusting, it's gross. 115 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: Sorry, maybe maybe went to the t M I cat terry. 116 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 3: Well you asked for it, Okay. 117 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: So speaking of hot, speaking of the summertime, I gotta 118 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: ask you this because this was trending on Twitter, uh 119 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: earlier today before we got rolling here. Well, actually it 120 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: was a person was trending on Twitter. Is Buddy Matthews 121 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: was trending on Twitter? And I clicked on it to 122 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 1: see why, and I think it was because there was 123 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: a rap on aw having to do with him. But 124 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: as I was scrolling through, I saw other reasons why 125 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: maybe he was, but I can't really put my finger 126 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: on it. But this is something that stood out to 127 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: me that I have to ask you about because this 128 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: kind of relates back to parts of your career. Okay, 129 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: Buddy Matthews is in a relationship with Rear Ripley. Okay, 130 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: Rea Ripley is on screen link to Dominic Masterio, who, 131 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: as we've talked about before, is absolutely killing it in 132 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: the heel department and it's probably at the top of 133 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: the heel landscape in all of the pro wrestling sports 134 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: entertainment industry at the moment. Is that safe to say? 135 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: I would think so. Everything I see on him is positive, So. 136 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So that is obviously playing into the fact 137 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: that fans are kind of saying, well, seeing the on 138 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: screen chemistry between Rhea and dom who she calls dom 139 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: Dom affectionately. You know, a lot of touching, a lot 140 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: of closeness, a lot of you know, grab main whatever. 141 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 1: You know. Buddy Matthews, Oh, he must not be okay 142 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: with this, or if he is okay with this, it 143 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: must really be eating him alive inside, because here's his 144 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: woman on screen doing this. But I just go back 145 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: to some of the things that you heard throughout your 146 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: career about being linked to Shine and your on screen 147 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: relationship with him, which was that an on screen relationship 148 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: the fans kind of taking it a little too far? 149 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: Is this just is this something that goes along with 150 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: the territory because obviously Buddy Matthews is sitting next to 151 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: Rhea Ripley and Dominic at the Hall of Fame. That's April, 152 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: So I mean there, obviously he's he knows that goes 153 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: along with the territory of this relationship. 154 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: Buddy's in the business. Rie is in the business. Thomb's 155 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 3: in the business. 156 00:08:58,720 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 4: Right. 157 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: We are actors. This is a form of acting. We 158 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: are role playing. We are characters. 159 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: Sometimes storylines are romantic and involved touching and kissing and 160 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: you know, over the top and the windows and your partner, 161 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: especially if he's in the wrestling business, needs to understand 162 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: that it's all a work. I'm sure buddy gets it, now, 163 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 2: Could he feel uncomfortable? 164 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: Sure? 165 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 2: No one wants to see their significant other rubbing one 166 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: somebody else, or kissing somebody or whatever. 167 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 3: That's why I always used to say to Shane, your 168 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: wife must hate me. 169 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: You know, even though we never actually like made out, 170 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: We never there was never one tongue kiss between us. 171 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: It was always like that peck or moles were always closed. 172 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: But the chemistry was there, and it just it looked 173 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: like it was more than it was. And you know, 174 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: people thought it was more than it wasn't It wasn't. 175 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: And I'll say that until my dying day. I said 176 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 2: it a million times. Put me on a live detector. 177 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: I would swear on a bunch of bibles like it 178 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 2: never happened. There was nothing there between us but a good, good, 179 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: solid friendship still to this day one of my best 180 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: friends ever. 181 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: You know, seeing your. 182 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,959 Speaker 2: Girlfriend, boyfriend, wife, husband or whatever, it can be difficult, 183 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: it can be uncomfortable, but especially when you are part 184 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 2: of the wrestling business, you know what to expect. These 185 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 2: things happen and Rita and Dominic are getting over so 186 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 2: much like you know in the heel department, and the 187 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: fans will come at you and believe that there's something 188 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: going on. 189 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: There's gonna be those fans, just like the wrestling sheets 190 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: that report angles as stories that we talked about, which 191 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: infuriates me, Like I still don't get that. 192 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: You know, these wrestling fans who are some of them 193 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: are naive. They will believe whatever they watch on TV 194 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 2: as real as gospel, as truth. They take offence, they 195 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: will fight, They will call names at each other, you know, 196 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: if you don't support their character, if you don't support 197 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 2: who they like, blah blah blah, if you say something 198 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 2: negative about somebody. It's just the way the businesses. You 199 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 2: have to do things to go along with the story. 200 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 2: And I think Buddy gets it, you know, he gets it. 201 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 2: He's probably friendly with Dominic. He probably you know, they're 202 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: sitting like you said, they're sitting at the Hall of 203 00:11:59,120 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: Fame together. 204 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:00,839 Speaker 3: He knows what's up. 205 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: There's gonna be a time maybe when he's gotta do 206 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: the same thing, you know in aew with one of 207 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: the ladies. 208 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: And she's gonna have to suck it up. Because it's 209 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 3: the business. 210 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: That's it's storyline development, it's character development. 211 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: That's what happens. It's inevitable. 212 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 2: It happens almost to everybody. You know, people are linked 213 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: all the time. 214 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: It's like it's like a movie. We call it live theater. 215 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 3: That's what it is. 216 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: It's not real, yeah, work. 217 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: So you know, if he has a problem with it, 218 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: then he shouldn't. I don't think he should be in 219 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: the business. And it doesn't look like he does have 220 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: a problem with it. 221 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 3: You know, you have to suck it up. 222 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have thought so, you know, I wouldn't thought 223 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: so at all. I mean because in AW he has 224 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: Julia Hart, who's a part of that House of Black. 225 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 3: But is it a romantic character with her. 226 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: It's not. I don't believe. So again I'm too keen 227 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: on the AW storyline. But she's a part of that 228 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 1: House of Black. And from what I understand on the outside, 229 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: you know, in the business, Buddy Murphy is like super 230 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: tied to her in terms of business tidings, and you 231 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: know what he what she's doing outside the business, so 232 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: he's working closely with her. So who know, I mean, 233 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: you don't ever know what happens outside there, you know, 234 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: I don't know. 235 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 3: Here's an example for you. Matt Hardona has Steph the Lander. 236 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: Is that how you pronounce her? 237 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: Me? Married to Chelsea Green? Chelsea works in WWE, right, 238 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 2: Matt's on the road with Steph constantly. 239 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you. 240 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: Don't have trust there, what do you have? You know? 241 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: Now, I don't I don't know if their characters or 242 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: I don't think their characters are romantically linked. They're just 243 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: like the King and Queen of the death match scene 244 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: or whatever they call themselves. I don't even know what 245 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: they're calling them. But like I just was scrolling through 246 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: Twitter this morning and they just both of them are 247 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: in Japan together. 248 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 3: Now. You know, if I. 249 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: Am married to Matt or somebody in the business like 250 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 2: that and my husband's traveling all these different places, yeah, 251 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 2: I would be a little one edge and be a 252 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 2: little jealous. But looking at it as you know, a 253 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: business perspective, this is their gimmick, this is their character. 254 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: You love somebody, you have to trust somebody. If you 255 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: don't have trust in your relationship, then you shouldn't be 256 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 2: in a relationship with that person. Bottom line. I know, 257 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: stuff happens, especially in wrestling. You know, the boys are 258 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 2: known to room. I'm not saying that, mad Is. I'm 259 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: not saying that, buddy. I'm not saying anybody. Please don't 260 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 2: quote me and saying people are cheating. I'm just saying, 261 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: especially when you work for two different FEDS, you're gonna 262 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: be linked up with somebody eventually. You know, down the line, 263 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 2: you have to have a thick skin, and you have 264 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: to have trust in your partner, right and that, you know, 265 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: that goes a long way. And if the trust isn't there, 266 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 2: it's gonna eat you up and you're gonna go crazy. 267 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: So you know, if their spouses and significant others are 268 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: okay with it, then the world has to be okay 269 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: with it. 270 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 3: And all this little you know talking here and there 271 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: needs to stop. Oh there she is. 272 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: Okay, let me play this for you because this is 273 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: one of the things people are talking about from Okay, 274 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: So it's fightful, fightful wrestling. Share this. This is our buddy, 275 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: Sean Ross SAPs wrestling. It says Rhea has no chill. 276 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: The question is what's her favorite thing to do with 277 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: Dominick mysterio? 278 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: Okay, here we go, Sorry. 279 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: Sure, this play is what's her favorite thing to do 280 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: together with dominate n stadio. I think you already know that. 281 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: Oh, that's okay. Obviously in character. Obviously, come on, she's 282 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: in character. That was probably not probably that was a 283 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: WWE interview had to be okayed by the office. 284 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: You're in character, right, Oh? 285 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, great answer, Absolutely great answer. 286 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: You want us to believe there's something going on where 287 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: there you go? And I'm sure that buddy saw that 288 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: and he laughed his ass off. 289 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's go to how about this one? This 290 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: is the aw. 291 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 3: Rap? 292 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: Uh you know who is it? The acclaim? Let do 293 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: the raps? Here we go. This is what they had 294 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: to say. 295 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: If funny anslminous when it cuts by kid. 296 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:58,359 Speaker 3: Named well bye? 297 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: Ever, but do really think that they should be shouting 298 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 2: out like the other SAIDs. 299 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: Well, no, that's the thing about what these guys do. 300 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: They constantly shout out the company. And that's you know, 301 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: you never the old adage that you never point up, 302 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, or you never point you never know, you're 303 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: never supposed to point down, You're supposed to point up. Well, 304 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: I would never acknowledge the company ever. But so that's 305 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: what's fueling the flames of the fans but in this instance, 306 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: the super marks that are going nuts, that are saying like, oh, well, 307 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: she's obviously you know, doing something with him on the side. 308 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 3: And why why is it obvious? 309 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: Well, because they are so good at what they do, 310 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: and they're fooling you into believing that in the exact 311 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: same manner that you guys were, because you guys were 312 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: just absolutely engrossed in your character and your personas that 313 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: you have everyone believing, even potentially the locker room, that 314 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: you guys were an item. And that means A, you're 315 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: good at what you do and b you guys are money. 316 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: And that's where you know, there has to be a 317 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: separation somewhere between fantasy and reality. And you know, how 318 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: does it end up now because there's maybe a complaint 319 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: from the significant other or you know that maybe they 320 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: they don't want to see it go that way and 321 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 1: they're preventing a long term breakup or something like that. 322 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 2: They're not going to do a thing. This is a 323 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: hot act that is drawing money. 324 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: And drawing ratings. They're not touching it. There's no way, 325 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 3: no way they had. 326 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 2: Buddy's got to if he has a problem with it, 327 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 2: he's just has to accept it. 328 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: He needs to just accept it, and I'm sure he is. 329 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: I'm sure this is more the fans feeling the fire 330 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: than him complaining about certain things. 331 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 332 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to go back Matt Hardy 333 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 2: and Lea they were in a relationship and they had 334 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: her an edge in a bed in the center of 335 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 2: the ring under the covers. 336 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 3: Literally tongue kissing the whole time. 337 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 2: While now that to me had to be hard to watch, 338 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: but then again, how could you say anything because now 339 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: you're looking at it and you're thinking it's an angle, 340 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: but it really it was real then that kind of situation, 341 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 2: like you know, they say when people act, and sometimes 342 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 2: like Brad Pitt and Angelina Julie, they did. Mister and 343 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: missus Smith fell in love on set married man. I 344 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: don't know if she was married at the time, I 345 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: can't remember, but they fell in love and here they 346 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 2: leave their significant others. 347 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 3: The Okay, it happens. 348 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: Don't get me. 349 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: I'm not saying it can't happen, but you have to 350 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: just Again, it goes back to like trusting your partner, 351 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 2: and if your relationship is strong and your love is real, 352 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 2: then you'll. 353 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 3: Whether the storm, and the angle. 354 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,239 Speaker 2: Will move on and everybody will be okay, you know, 355 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: but not it doesn't happen every time like some people 356 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: keep it one hundred percent professional. I and Shane and 357 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 2: I were one hundred percent professional. Whether anybody believes it 358 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: or not, I'm sure. I mean, I don't know them, 359 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,479 Speaker 2: but you know, maybe Riha and Dominic are just one 360 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: hundred percent professional. 361 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 3: You know, we don't know. 362 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: You don't know what happens behind closed doors. It's none 363 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: of our business. 364 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 3: But you can't judge them because of what you see 365 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: on a TV show. That's my That's what I'm trying 366 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 3: to say. 367 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: You they're working, They're working everybody. 368 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: Do you think this picture by a fan the flame 369 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: a little bit somebody put into angry Buddy Matthews next 370 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: to a picture of dumb appoint that rear end re 371 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: end there. 372 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: It's not fun. It can't. 373 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: It's not fun for you to watch your spouse be 374 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 2: with another person. I'm not denying that, but it's it's 375 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 2: an angle, you know. Now down the line, if they 376 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 2: come out and they say, oh my god, guess what 377 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: really leaves Buddy Murphy p Dominic scar, that will know, 378 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: holy crap, you know something developed and things can develop 379 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 2: you you don't know, you don't know, But if you're 380 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 2: a fan, just enjoy the product and keep your two 381 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 2: cents to yourself. Think what you want, but doesn't mean 382 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 2: it's trick. 383 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. 384 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Edge Leada Matt Hardy may be the most. 385 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: I would say, uh just I would say, like the 386 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: heat drin in on screen, off screen, everybody knew what 387 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: was going on fan or you're in the business, everybody 388 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: knew everything story ever unfolded in professional wrestling history, Like 389 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: there could be a book written about what happened with 390 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: all that and their shoot interview stories that are in 391 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 1: compilation form on YouTube. You can go watch it. Matt 392 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 1: Hardy tells the whole story, lead it, I think shares 393 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: parts of it they've they've all talked about it. Edge, 394 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: I think shares it in a book or something that 395 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: they've all talked about it. 396 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: Wow. 397 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: But with you and Shane again, what made you guys 398 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: just so good is that you guys were the top 399 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: heel act at the time, and it just made you 400 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: guys seem like, well they got to be in on 401 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: an item to be this good, Like nobody can be 402 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: this good of an act unless they're living it twenty 403 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: four to seven outside the ring. But you were just 404 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: a simple act and that is what I think made 405 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: you guys so awesome together. So it's just but you 406 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: guys felt the heat, right, You guys always had like 407 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: you had the eyes on you twenty four to seven. 408 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: We did. 409 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: And could you imagine if we had social media back then, 410 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: like how more intense everything would have been. Like I 411 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: always say, if we had social media, I think the 412 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: company would have survived. I think we would have had, 413 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 2: you know, more coverage of free publicity kind of deal. 414 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: But even for our characters, and you know, just being 415 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: in that company on social media, like the promotion self 416 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: promotion that we could have did for ourselves and it 417 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: could have blew up to be an even bigger entity 418 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: than it was. And just for Shane and I, like 419 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 2: we we worked together, we trained together, we ate together, 420 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: we traveled together. It was that kind of partnership. And 421 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 2: we always had Damien with us, so it wasn't it 422 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 2: wasn't like it was just me and him. Damien was 423 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: the driver for us and he was always with us, 424 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: and we just tried to do the best job possible 425 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 2: that we could to make people believe that there was 426 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: something there. You know, we didn't like. It wasn't over exaggerated, 427 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: if that makes any sense. We never would go to 428 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 2: a club and make it out against the wall or 429 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: hold hands or do there was nothing like that. It 430 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 2: was just I think everything that you saw that people 431 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 2: believed was on. 432 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 3: Air, right. It wasn't outside. We didn't like, we. 433 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: Weren't all over each other outside when we would, you know, 434 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 2: go to dinner or go places, it was always a 435 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: group of us. It was never just the two of us. Intimately, 436 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: there was always a bunch of people. It was always 437 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: damy there. So we weren't like just together to you 438 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: know what I mean. Like, it wasn't over exaggerated. It 439 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 2: was organic and it was just it just came across 440 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: well on film. 441 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I don't know what else to say. Maybe 442 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 3: if there was social. 443 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: Media, we would have played it up a little more 444 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: and did the angle online and stuff, but we didn't 445 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: have that stuff back then, so we and without that stuff, 446 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 2: look how people believed it. We didn't even have all 447 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 2: this extra bs to add to the gimmick. It was 448 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 2: just what you saw on screen, and there was just 449 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 2: a spark. 450 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what made it special. 451 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: And people still think you're married to this day. 452 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: To this day. 453 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: How's your husband? Like, Oh, he's pretty good always he 454 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: still russell. What you know, Shane Douglas, I'm like. 455 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: What, let me show you one more thing. So you 456 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: and Shane evolved your entering into you know, the pack 457 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: and then Shane does the heart attack and hits the mat. Right. Yeah, 458 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: here's another thing that let's call this exhibit C that 459 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: people are pointing right, yeah, okay, So here's here's a 460 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: ring entrance at a house show. 461 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I guess. 462 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: You'd call this the tame twenty twenty three ring entrance. Right, 463 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,719 Speaker 1: there's dumb, it's it's the rings. He got his arms up. 464 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: There's a little Eddie guerrero. Okay, a head butt then 465 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: little head, little little head thing. Okay, they're saying, oh, 466 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: that's cute, like ah, all, so people are really grasping 467 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: at straws. But again, in social media and twenty twenty three, 468 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: sometimes that's all takes tot unto people's skins. So I 469 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: hope they don't crumble a relationship for the sake of. 470 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 3: Now come on, now, I think it'll be fine. 471 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 2: They're fire, They're killing it. 472 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: Absolutely so all right, before we head to the finish line, 473 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: a quick update to a story that we covered back 474 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: in WrestleMania Season and the only reason we're going to 475 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: cover it is because we did two parts on it 476 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: then and we got to get I would hope to 477 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: be the finale now because if it's the finale, the 478 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: finale went out in an epic conclusion, so you know 479 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: more about it. To me, I saw the first tweet 480 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: about it. It's the Giselle shaw, Rick Steiner, wrestle Khan. 481 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: Just get debacle and controversy and whatever you want to 482 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: call it, public statements, public apologies, whatever went on. I 483 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: had heard some stuff that was done outside of what 484 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: was talked about in public. I don't even know if 485 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: that had ever been revealed in public, but I shared 486 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: with you what I had heard. But it exploded this 487 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: week in a way that I actually missed. So I'm 488 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: eager to hear from you what you saw, So you 489 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: tell what's been going on. 490 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, I you know, I follow Russell Khan on 491 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: Twitter because I've attended several Russel Kans and I'm friendly 492 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 2: with Michael hell of a nice guy. And I noticed 493 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: the first tweet and I'm looking now it doesn't I 494 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: think they took it down. 495 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 3: I don't think it's up anymore. I'm trying to find 496 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 3: it and I don't think it's up. 497 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: So they put up a tweet that said somebody, I 498 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 2: don't know who the people are, but somebody was bringing 499 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: the Signer brothers. 500 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: Was uh, the the absolute shits Tony Hunter Productions. Sorry, 501 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: I'll just editorial post. 502 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: I don't know who Tony Hunter is, but okay, so 503 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: he was bringing up historial Okay, that's the opinions. 504 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 3: Here are the Chadsters and not the queen. 505 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: So they had to picture of the Steiner brothers and 506 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: they were they were coming to Russel Kon now three 507 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: months ago. Uh, at the last Russel Kan in California. 508 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: We were notified, we meaning the fans, because I wasn't there. 509 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 3: I'm a fan looking in on this one. 510 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 2: That Rick Steiner and Giselle had that altercation, Rick was 511 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 2: removed from Russel Khan and he was ban from all 512 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: Russell Kan events going forward. That was what was said 513 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: at that time. Now the ban has been lifted and 514 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,719 Speaker 2: Rick and Scott are now signing at Russell Khan. So 515 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: I see this tweet, so I'm like, interesting, right, Well, 516 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: there were over six hundred responses to that tweet, most 517 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: of them negative, wrecking Michael. There were some positive because 518 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: you know there, you know, some people believe in freedom 519 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 2: of speech. You can say whatever you want. You know, 520 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 2: they're fans of Rick, they were excited to meet him. 521 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: Most of the people in this thread were pissed off. 522 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: They didn't feel safe coming to Wrestlican. They are banning 523 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 2: Russel Kan events going forward. You know, Michael is a coward. 524 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: Michael is caving blah blah blah, all you know, back 525 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 2: and forth with these comments. 526 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 3: So I'm reading and I was just like, wow, crazy. 527 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 2: Right, so much backlash that he goes and does the 528 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: next tweet. I don't know if it took one or 529 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: two days, but he makes this big, you know, statement 530 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: and he pulls Rick. 531 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: Now Rick is no longer welcome at Russel Kan again. 532 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 2: Negative comments on this one from the other side saying 533 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: that Rick has caved, Rick has gone excuse me, Michael's cave. 534 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 3: Michael's gone woke. You know, he's leaning towards the six. 535 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 2: Percent that don't uh, you know, want Rick Steiner to 536 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 2: be there, and it's like, to me, you can't win 537 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 2: on either side. 538 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: He got almost I think he got almost six hundred 539 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 3: responses on that tweet too. 540 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: It it was crazy the people came out in Drews 541 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: you either support it Rick or you hate. 542 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 3: Rick one or the other. 543 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: But it was kind of with the two tweets, it 544 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 2: kind of balanced out. People were outraged that he was coming, 545 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: and then people were outraged that he was removed again, 546 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: So you know, how do you win at this stage? 547 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: The best thing that could have happened is that he 548 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: was never booked in the first place, and everything would have. 549 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 3: Been, you know, the way to go. 550 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: But now people that are in support of Giselle say 551 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: they're banning the event, and now people that are in 552 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: support of Rick Steiner are banning the event. So it's 553 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: interesting and plus people are saying this came too late, 554 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: this should have never happened. 555 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 3: I'm still banning Russell Klan. 556 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: Maybe I could she had a little context with my 557 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: editorial comments. Now, the guy who would be bringing him in, 558 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: Tony Hunter, does supply a lot of talent to Wressel 559 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: Khan at both Now, this Summer Slam event and the 560 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 1: WrestleMania event. There could have been a leverage play saying 561 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm not bringing X, Y and Z talent to this 562 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: event unless you bring all my players to the event. 563 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: That could have been one of the plays that was made, 564 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: thus pushing the envelope of well, they both got to 565 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: be there. If you want, you want Scott, you need Rick. 566 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: That could have been what happened. I'm just that's me speculating, 567 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: knowing that side of the business and knowing this the 568 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: the absolute human garbage that the guy who's booking them 569 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: is uh you know, uh, you know, working with Michael 570 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: and Russell Khan. So that's again on my take having 571 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: dealt with him and having had some very very poor, poor, 572 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: poor experiences with him. So, but that's the deal you 573 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: have because i mean he books Lex Luger, he books 574 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: Ron Simmons, he books Gosh, he's got h Ricky Steamboat. 575 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got so many guys under his umbrella 576 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: that he could say, hey, I'm not bringing that whole 577 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: crew unless you take both Rick and. 578 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: Scott understood, I get it, and you know. 579 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: Where that goes that it could be a whole If 580 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: you you want one, you get them. 581 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 3: All, yeah, uh it, that's all. You know it. It's tricky. 582 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: Because he did say banned from all future wrestle cons 583 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: and then it's like, okay, three months later he's back. 584 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: He said something to about Rick apologizing to like the staff, 585 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: and he offered an apology to Giselle as well, but 586 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 2: she didn't want to accept it. 587 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: Right, I've heard that anywhere. 588 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 3: It's in the tweet. 589 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm saying I hadn't heard that anywhere. 590 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 3: It was supposedly behind closed doors. I look, I don't know. 591 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 3: I like Michael. 592 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 2: He's always been a stand up guy to me. I 593 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: have nothing bad to say about him. I enjoy Russell Khan. 594 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 2: This is a touchy situation. 595 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 3: It's good. 596 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: It's really going to be interesting to see how many 597 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: people attend, because I know the Internet only makes up 598 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 2: a small percent of the population that attend these shows. 599 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 3: But for all the tweets that are. 600 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: Saying I'm banning Russel Khan, like, you know, how many 601 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 2: people were really going to be? Yeah, like I I 602 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: don't know, you don't know, but I'm curious. 603 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,439 Speaker 3: To see the turnout for this. Yeah, it's just out 604 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 3: of curiosity. I want to see who's. 605 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: It's SummerSlam too. It's not WrestleMania, No, it's Summer. 606 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Summer Slam based wrestle con. 607 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 2: But I just the tweets, it was kind of like 608 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 2: even for both sides, like, you know, people are coming 609 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 2: out in support of Rick now and it's. 610 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 3: Just wow, it's just it's a lot. It's a lot. 611 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 3: Michael's head must be just exploding, you know. 612 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so I was starting cting up with 613 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: the apology part. You know, we had never heard that 614 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: that came out. He apologized to apparently the Impact locker 615 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: room or something to that ILK that that they had 616 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: said in the first tweet. But again, you know, the 617 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 1: thing that I had heard that what originally had kind 618 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 1: of started this whole rigamarole in the original like launching 619 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: pad for this whole fiasco. The true story about that 620 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: apparently has not come out either. So yeah, this whole 621 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: thing really never needed to happen. This was all if 622 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 1: the true story that I heard is true, this whole 623 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: situation literally never had to happen. Steiner never needed to 624 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 1: be involved, Giselle never needed to have any of this 625 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: negative stuff brought to her and and have any of 626 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: the you know, just the absolute you know, terrible stuff 627 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: being said. None of that ever should have happened, Michael 628 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: Russel Khan never should have been affected. Nobody be banning 629 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: anybody crazy. If the true story that I heard from 630 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 1: the first moment it was said, none of this should 631 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: have happened. 632 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 2: Well, you can't say that because you're not sharing the 633 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 2: true story with anyone. So you're gonna be fans pissed. 634 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 3: Off right now. So shut up. We're not talking about I. 635 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: Mean, I can say it if you want. I mean, 636 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,959 Speaker 1: at this point, I don't care. I don't even remember 637 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: who told me. At this point ago from what I heard, 638 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: Rick Steiner said whatever his comments were at a table 639 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: at a bar, and somebody from the Impact locker room 640 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 1: heard it told Giselle uh. And then the next day 641 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,959 Speaker 1: at Russell Khan, Giselle went by Steiner's table and kind 642 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: of stared him down, thus leading to a this nut 643 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 1: nutty situation we're in now. 644 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 3: So you're you're saying that you heard that she started it. 645 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: No that well, I'm not saying she started it, but 646 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: when I'm saying, you're. 647 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 2: Saying she started the altercation at Russell com by staring 648 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 2: him down. He didn't say anything to provoke her stares. 649 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: I think that once she stayed him down, that that's 650 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: when his comments were then elevated. And what he said 651 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: at Russell Khan was said, So that's what I'm saying, 652 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: there's no real from what I was told. 653 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know if that's you. 654 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: This is what I was told right after it happened. 655 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: I was told weekend it happened. That is what it was. 656 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 1: He was overheard saying something in a bar by somebody 657 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: an impact. They went back and told Gazelle. Gazelle went 658 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: by the Steiner table at wrestle Kan kind of gave 659 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 1: him dirty look that he didn't like that he started 660 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 1: saying something and then here we are today. So again, 661 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: if that's the true story, none of this should have happened. 662 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: So if somebody did hear that and went back in, 663 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 1: was a tattle tale or was trying to you know? Uh, 664 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 1: first of all, overhearing a conversation, keep your ears shut, 665 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: Like what do you listen to the people talking for? 666 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 3: You know, because people are newsy, you know that. 667 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so but whatever, again, I have no dog in 668 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: the fight. This should never happened. 669 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: I don't either and I just feel baffer all involved, 670 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 2: and I just wish it would get resolved. But real 671 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 2: quickly turning on uh scumbag promoters. 672 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 3: Let me call al Oh, yes. 673 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: G TC Collectibles, you piece of shit. I'm going to 674 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 2: say that Shane, and I'm sorry. I'm livid about this. 675 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 2: Shane and I were so excited to go to geeked 676 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 2: Con and I bought I was supposed to sign there 677 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 2: for two days with Shane and Sabou bought. 678 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 3: Two new outfits for it and my shoes and everything 679 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 3: I promoted. It. 680 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 2: Had no idea what was going on. I Shane and 681 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 2: I share an agent. I call him and I say, hey, 682 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 2: we need to get the flight situated for Louisiana. You know, 683 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 2: I need to know when we're leaving, and he tries 684 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 2: to get a hold of the guy. The guy dodges him. Finally, 685 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 2: the guy calls him back and tells him that he's 686 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 2: run into some problems and he won't be going forward 687 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: with any future bookings, which tells me financially, he's come 688 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: in to a right and he's ceasing, you know, working 689 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 2: with talent. That's how I would take it if I 690 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 2: heard something like that. Would you agree canceling. All you know, 691 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 2: I'm not doing any future booking, is gonna. 692 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 3: Lay low for a while. Blah blah blah. 693 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 2: So we're booted, me, Shane, and Sabu. We're never told, right, 694 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 2: I'm still promoting this. We were never told we're not going. 695 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 2: But it gets better. He tells him that he's not 696 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: doing anything. I contact the guy from Geeks Khan. He 697 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 2: tells me that this person whoever GtC or whatever the 698 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 2: hell they're called, tells him that Shane, myself and Sabu 699 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 2: canceled on him and that we told him we can't come, 700 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 2: which is one hundred percent not the true. It's not truth, 701 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 2: it's a lie. We never canceled on him, right, So 702 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 2: now he books in our place, the Godfather and buff 703 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 2: Bagwell after he tells our agent, I'm not doing this 704 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 2: anymore for you know, I'm gonna take a break or 705 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 2: whatever the wording was. 706 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 3: Now, why did he do that? 707 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 2: You pull to people that you've had for about two 708 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 2: months booked for this event that are pushing it, and 709 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 2: then tells a lie to to different two lies to 710 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 2: tou different people, and then books to other people in 711 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,879 Speaker 2: our place and never calls and tells us. 712 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 3: I'm livid. 713 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 2: I'm livid about it because this is you know, this 714 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 2: is how we make our money, and to deal with 715 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,280 Speaker 2: people like this it's unprofessional. That's the guy from Gecon 716 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 2: has been great, by the way. I don't even know 717 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 2: who I'm speaking to on Twitter, but if you're listening, 718 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,759 Speaker 2: whoever you are, you've been a delight and hopefully next 719 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 2: year Shane and I can come to this event. But 720 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 2: the way this was handled was so unprofessional that it 721 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 2: made my stomach turn and I will never deal with 722 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 2: GtC Collectibles ever again. So if you guys are listening, 723 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 2: don't even think about ever having me on any of 724 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 2: your events. 725 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 3: Not that you. 726 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 2: Probably would, but I don't get the fact that you 727 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 2: book people and then unbooked them and book other people 728 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: and don't tell the talent they're unbooked. This has never 729 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 2: happened to be before, never in my life, and I've 730 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,279 Speaker 2: been in this business for thirty years. 731 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 3: How do you do something like this? 732 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: Amateur? 733 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 3: So unprofessional? 734 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 2: So and nothing against Buff or the Godfather, it's not 735 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 2: their fault, but this guy is a scumbag. You don't 736 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 2: handle business this way. Be a man and get some 737 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 2: balls and make a phone call and tell us if 738 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 2: we were you know, if they came in cheaper and 739 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 2: he wanted to cut corners. Maybe that's what happened. I 740 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 2: don't know, we weren't told, but still you had a commitment. 741 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 2: You booked us like two months ago, three months ago 742 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 2: for this. 743 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 3: I think we were booked for this at Square Circle 744 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 3: whenever that was. That was a long time ago, you 745 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 746 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about Godfather. I don't know about 747 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: buff maybe, but not Godfather. I mean, that's he's a 748 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: that's a first class ticket. 749 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 3: Well that's whatever. It is, like, it's it's not cool, 750 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 3: it's very unprofessional. 751 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 2: And I just I was blown away. I said to 752 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 2: my I asked the guy from geekon. I was like, 753 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 2: can you tell us why you want booked us? And 754 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,280 Speaker 2: he dos, oh, it wasn't me, it was GtC collect 755 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 2: or whatever they're called. 756 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,320 Speaker 3: And I said, well, what did he tell you? And 757 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 3: he goes, oh, he told us you canceled. I was like, 758 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 3: are you kidding me? I did not cancel. 759 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 2: So, you know, I just had to get that off 760 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 2: my chest because it just infuriates me that people handle 761 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 2: themselves in this manner, especially when Shane and I are 762 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 2: so professional. We never miss our shots where they're early, 763 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 2: we stay late, we make sure everybody gets an autograph. 764 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 2: We are personable and we talk to everybody and we 765 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 2: try to have a good time, and we are there 766 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 2: to make the promoter's money back for him one hundred percent. 767 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,319 Speaker 2: And then you get people who do this kind of thing. 768 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,879 Speaker 2: It's just it's so infuriating. I'm sorry, I'm going off 769 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 2: on a tangent, but I'm pissed. 770 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,760 Speaker 1: Well you should, you should. That was that was bullshit. 771 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: I felt terrible for you. It cost you a booking 772 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: with with me and my crew. I wanted to bring 773 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 1: you to Virginia Beach that weekend, but we couldn't because 774 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,360 Speaker 1: you got booked up on that show. 775 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 3: And you know, in April I think it was we 776 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 3: got it. 777 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that so it was bullshit. These guys don't 778 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: even have they don't have a Twitter, they don't have 779 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,240 Speaker 1: an Instagram, they have very very little social media presence. 780 00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: It's embarrassing that there's people like this inside this industry 781 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: that continue to do it and give everybody else bad name. 782 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,280 Speaker 1: And it makes people like you then become more cautious 783 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 1: when they're dealing with somebody else who may be respectable 784 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,439 Speaker 1: and maybe on the up and up, but you don't 785 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: know that until you deal with them. But it's people 786 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: like this that just continue to drive this industry down. 787 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: And that's why I've been leaning more towards working on 788 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: the collectible stuff that I've been doing on the side 789 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,720 Speaker 1: and killing it versus dealing with the autograph stuff, because 790 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: I can't deal with these amateurs. I mean, I have 791 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: guys all over the country that still owe me money 792 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: from things from two years ago because they're just they're 793 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: absolute scumbags. 794 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm so over it. I really, it. 795 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 2: Makes me sick to my stomach. So I just had 796 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 2: to give them a little shout out and this. I 797 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 2: know you can't see it, but guess what. 798 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: It's audio for this one. 799 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,840 Speaker 3: But that's what I'm doing right now. 800 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 1: If you did the triple threat and brought down too 801 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: there you go. 802 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't deserve that. You know, we're people. We 803 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 2: just did Sabou Shane and I were good people. We 804 00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 2: don't deserve this kind of treatment. And you know, talent, 805 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,840 Speaker 2: if you're listening, just be leery of this guy, because 806 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 2: I was told by somebody else I'm not going to 807 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 2: throw them under the bus either, But I was told 808 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 2: by somebody else that they're known to cancel at the 809 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 2: last minute, So. 810 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 3: Be leery of these people and I'll never work for them. 811 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 1: Terrible. 812 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 813 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: So anyway, Uh, you ready to get out of here? 814 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? Now I'm hot. 815 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, now you're hot. Chat Chatterer's gotta fly. I 816 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: got it. 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