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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, you heard the man. It is that

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Speaker 2: time of week. My name is Bernie Frattle. We are

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. We'll take Apter three Am Pacific, six

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Speaker 2: am Eastern Headlines, glore, stories, glore, recover it all. Where

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Speaker 2: do we begin? Simple? Have you noticed we become a

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Speaker 2: society that is permeated with outrage? Outrage? You know what

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Speaker 2: it is. It's powerful, what triggers it perceived injustices, violation

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Speaker 2: of what you value, threat to your safety, insult to

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Speaker 2: your dignity, your personal boundaries, all that stuff. Powerlessness, frustration

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Speaker 2: you didn't get what you want. We are a society

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Speaker 2: embedded in outrage. By the way, it's not always been

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Speaker 2: this way. I mean check that it's always been this way. Wrong,

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Speaker 2: it has always been this way. You may heard the

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Speaker 2: story of the super successful hedge fund trader in New

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Speaker 2: York years back. Make it about thirty million a year,

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Speaker 2: just outrage with life, the stress, the pressure, everything. Besides,

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Speaker 2: he's going to pack it all in, move to South America,

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Speaker 2: join a monastery, become a monk, no stress, no outrage.

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Speaker 2: They had one rule, you could only say two words

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Speaker 2: every ten years. Every ten years have a banquet, you

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Speaker 2: get to get up and say two words. He gets

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Speaker 2: down there, settles in. No more wall Street, no more pressure.

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Speaker 2: The day of the banquet comes, he gets up and

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Speaker 2: Ten more years go by, and outrage creeps in for

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Speaker 2: him too. And at the third banquet he since, he

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Speaker 2: the monastery said, well, that's flying with us, because all

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Speaker 3: Bitch, bitch, bitch outrage. It's an extreme social situation. You react,

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Speaker 3: you're angry. It's always been this way. This week we

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Speaker 3: majored in outrage.

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Speaker 2: We're living in society now where Shudor Sanders is in

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Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl and Bill Belichick didn't get voted in

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. People are outraged. They're outraged about

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Speaker 2: shad Or. I could give a flying horses patuit good

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Speaker 2: don't blame him. People are outraged. People are outraged that

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Speaker 2: of Fame. He's outraged. Yes, here's a kid by the

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Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty three NBA draft. He sued the

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Speaker 2: January twenty first, he got a temporary straining order. Charles Bettiaco,

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Speaker 2: who once left for the NBA, he's back. People are outraged.

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Speaker 2: What the hell's going on here the wider world of sports.

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Speaker 2: uther name to hear about. Two days ago, he announced

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Speaker 2: People are outraged. I don't care. Lebron opens his mouth,

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Speaker 2: do much today to get people outraged. Draymond went crazy.

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Speaker 2: He's outraged. People are outraged at what he did. And

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Speaker 2: of course again the ever you know, irrepressible Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 2: You know, Mayan Angelo once had a quote. It says,

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Speaker 2: I have a question, peoples, because all this outrage typically

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Speaker 2: a question, where's the outrage for Eli Manning? Why isn't

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Speaker 2: modern era players that were chosen as finalists for a

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Speaker 2: second straight year. Well, I know he was only one

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Speaker 2: Eli Manning has not been elected to Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame fame. This is a guy we talk about fame.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's more famous than Joe Namath, the last time the

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Speaker 2: then four years later beat the same Patriots crew with

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Speaker 2: And don't take my word for it. How about his

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Speaker 2: former coach Tom Coughlin, who once said, quote, Eli Manning

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Speaker 2: is the greatest big game quarterback I've ever been around,

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Speaker 2: what said Eli Aparto was more than just performance. It

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Speaker 2: his absolute dependability. He started two hundred and ten consecutive

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at you, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow say it's

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Speaker 2: gives you an incredible sense of confidence and stability. He

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Speaker 2: was a superior individual with the franchise, tough, resilient, able

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Speaker 2: combination of championship, performance, leadership, and reliability is exactly what

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame represents. Close quote Tom Coughlin, who

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Speaker 2: knows a thing or two about winning Super Bowls and

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Speaker 2: outrage for Eli Manning. We're gonna have a real fun

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Speaker 5: Buddy, Hey my friend, great to be on with you.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: So tomorrow is really when the contdown starts, or it's

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Speaker 2: get your early take on the Super Bowl and full disclosure.

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Speaker 2: The two things I've fired on are the first half

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Speaker 2: But let's start where your thoughts are, do you few

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Speaker 5: Well, if we have the two best teams, the Rams

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Speaker 5: When I look at New England, Drake May has played well,

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Speaker 5: And if you don't believe me, just as Sean Payton,

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Speaker 5: he'll tell you the arrogance of not going for three

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Speaker 5: one good drive. It was a field goal. The touchdown

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Speaker 5: you know in Vegas we have access to a lot

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Speaker 2: Talking with the mal Shaw, longtime NFL insider, you touched

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Speaker 2: on something early on there about teams to turn it

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Speaker 2: All three covered. Though, by the way, you got a

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Speaker 2: How much did that carry over? Because I think the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I tend to agree with you. I think it's

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Speaker 5: you've got to win this game. Converting on third and shorts,

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Speaker 5: well on special teams and that's that's how you win

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Speaker 5: this game. Look, this is not Super Bowl twenty nine

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Actually, what's interesting is you don't think about New England

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Speaker 5: I think so, But look go back to New Orleans.

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Speaker 5: Sean Payton. I think he is a tremendous football coach.

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Speaker 5: He is as arrogant as you get. You think the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, kidd, You're not wrong. Final thoughts, Are

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Speaker 5: No, I haven't really gotten into it yet. I'm so

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Speaker 5: the more it favors than Patriots. So you're looking for

427
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Speaker 5: a game that's tight to get an opportunity, and you

428
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Speaker 5: find a way there to the Patriots, So potentially look

429
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Speaker 5: at some of these alternate totals team totals under possibly

430
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Speaker 5: for Seattle or for New England. You saw it in

431
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Speaker 5: the AFC Championship game, and I understand the weather played

432
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Speaker 5: a factor, but New England was like, listen, we're gonna

433
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Speaker 5: run the football from Monre Stevenson is he's an absolute

434
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Speaker 5: to stug back there in terms of being a battering ram.

435
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 5: You can get those three to four yards out of

436
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Speaker 5: him and then you know, you throw a pass when

437
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Speaker 5: you need to. I just don't think New England wants

438
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Speaker 5: to put it in Drake May's hand. I think they

439
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 5: want to rely on their defense and their running.

440
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Speaker 2: Yes, you nailed it, you're listen. That's what got me

441
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Speaker 2: on the four and a half. I'm all. I'll leave

442
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Speaker 2: you with one last nerdy stat because we you know,

443
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Speaker 2: we have a large sample side. Since the Super Bowl

444
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Speaker 2: era began, there have been sixteen teams that have done

445
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Speaker 2: what New England did, and that's allowed fewer than an

446
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Speaker 2: average of ten points per game. In their three playoff games,

447
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Speaker 2: they're averaging eight point seven point taking on CJ. Stroud

448
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Speaker 2: and all the other things. But they did, you know,

449
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: allow less than ten points and average per game all

450
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Speaker 2: those sixteen teams. The teams that did it when fourteen

451
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Speaker 2: and two against the number. So I'll be happy to

452
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Speaker 2: take a twenty one seventeen Seattle win and take my money.

453
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Speaker 2: You follow me. But I also think New England's alive.

454
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Speaker 2: We'll see it's not sething. I feel super strong on

455
00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 2: New England winning out right, which makes me sound like

456
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Speaker 2: a fish better, But that's what got me on it.

457
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 2: Superior defense getting points and the last sixteen teams to

458
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 2: do that, and some of them are really good teams,

459
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Speaker 2: like the eighty six Bears. Okay, that was that was craziness, right.

460
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,120
Speaker 2: They wanted to blowout the eighty nine to nine Ers,

461
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 2: the Ravens team with Ray Lewis, et cetera, et cetera.

462
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Speaker 2: So defense really does matter, and I think you just

463
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Speaker 2: nailed it in terms of how you know. I'm sure

464
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Speaker 2: New England wants to play a ball control, field position

465
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Speaker 2: game and rely on their defense. Let's jump to college basketball.

466
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Speaker 2: It started to really raise some eyebrows. Your top five

467
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 2: ranked teams have a combined record of one hundred and

468
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Speaker 2: twenty one and four. I mean, Arizona and Nebraska are undefeat.

469
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Speaker 2: Imagine that Indiana wins the national championship in football? Can

470
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Speaker 2: you imagine? I don't think you're going to do it.

471
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Speaker 2: Can you imagine if Nebraska were to win the national

472
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Speaker 2: championship in basketball? Think we'd have to get our affairs

473
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Speaker 2: and order them all.

474
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Speaker 5: Oh, you're not kidding. I mean, listen, Hoiberg's done a

475
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 5: tremendous job there. They finally drop the game, a game

476
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 5: that they probably should have won against Michigan this week.

477
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 5: I lose that game seventy five to seventy two. But

478
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Speaker 5: Wilverines have been tremendous, particularly at price of the arena.

479
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Speaker 5: They went on the road yesterday to get a great

480
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Speaker 5: road win at the Breslan Center. You being from Michigan,

481
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Speaker 5: you know how tough for the last quarter century.

482
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Speaker 7: You know, when I think of home.

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Speaker 5: Court advantages for me over the last twenty five years,

484
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Speaker 5: there's five places that jump out, particularly from a betting standpoint.

485
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Speaker 5: Duke at home obviously, Arizona, Michigan stated at the Bresln Center, Connecticut,

486
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Speaker 5: and then for me the best place in terms of

487
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Speaker 5: a home court advantage. And I understand you can put

488
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Speaker 5: the numbers there were due but Kansas is in the

489
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Speaker 5: toughest league by a large margin. Yes, going into the

490
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Speaker 5: fog is the toughest thing in college basketball. And we

491
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Speaker 5: saw a very good scoring team in BYU today get

492
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Speaker 5: absolutely just hit upside the head in that first half.

493
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Speaker 5: Now they fought back, Peterson had an injury in the

494
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Speaker 5: second half. Didn't play after about the sixteen minute mark

495
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Speaker 5: in that game at eighteen in the first half, didn't

496
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Speaker 5: score in the second half. But playing at bog Allen

497
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 5: field House, to me is the most challenging thing. And

498
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Speaker 5: you know, you think about it. In that league, in

499
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 5: the Big twelve, Arizona, Iowa State, Houston, Kansas, BYU, Texas Tech,

500
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 5: even UCF and Johnny Dawkins having a really good year,

501
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 5: you've got I mean, these are all teams that have

502
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 5: been in the top twenty five at some point. This year,

503
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 5: they're all basically in the top thirty. The top thirty.

504
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Speaker 5: Five of the top five teams in that league are

505
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 5: like top fifteen teams. The Big Ten and the Big

506
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 5: twelve at the top are so strong. It's incredible.

507
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Speaker 2: Having I trust my Eyesia tell me a lot, and

508
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Speaker 2: I think if Arizona brings their game, there's nobody that's

509
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: going to beat him. Now, no one's gone to you know,

510
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: undefeated since the nineteen seventy six Indiana team with Bobby Knight,

511
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: and they've they've come close. They had a ski they

512
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 2: let Byu buy a bottle Monday night and almost gave

513
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: it away. But can you really go to sleep on Yukon.

514
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: They're nineteen to one. What are your thoughts on them?

515
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I go back to the game when

516
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 5: they played in December and Arizona went into stores and

517
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 5: they took care of them pretty comfortably. Like I look

518
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 5: at Arizona and this team. To me, you want to

519
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 5: play a half court game, you want to play it

520
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 5: in the high sixties, low seventies, No problem will beat

521
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 5: you at that. You want to get up and go

522
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 5: in the eighties and nineties, We're going to run you

523
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Speaker 5: out of the gym. Like I look at Arizona and

524
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 5: the other thing I like about them they don't take

525
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 5: a ton of three pointers. I know everybody thinks taking

526
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 5: three pointers a great thing, especially Jay Wright won the

527
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 5: National championship doing that. You know u Kon won it

528
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 5: doing that a couple of years ago. But here's the

529
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 5: thing you kind of also had President On the rebounding

530
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 5: and inside. Last couple of years, they had size. You know,

531
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Speaker 5: when you look at that team, that made a difference

532
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 5: for them. I think Arizona is the kind of team

533
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 5: where you get in the half court. Their front line

534
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 5: is so big. The only team that I think would

535
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 5: really matchup or can be better than on the front

536
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 5: line as the Gators. And they beat the Gators early

537
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 5: in the season. But I think court has gotten better now.

538
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 5: They just need boogiy Flann and they didn't lead a

539
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,120
Speaker 5: step up for those guys. But you look at Chinelou,

540
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 5: Condon and Hawk, these guys are incredible in terms of

541
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 5: what they do upfront. Or Thomas Howse, They're really good.

542
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,959
Speaker 5: But I still think right now, for me, everybody's chasing Arizona.

543
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 5: I think there's some teams that can be dangerous, but

544
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 5: right now Arizona is the team to beat. And I

545
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 5: agree with you, Bernie, it's going to be a tough

546
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 5: mountain to crime climb because James Bradley is so good

547
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 5: defensively on the ball, Burris is an underrated player because

548
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 5: he's a freshman. Cole Pete is strong. This is a

549
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 5: very good basketball team.

550
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I like Tommy Lloyd a lot too, and

551
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: I like Arizona because of their depth and bench scoring.

552
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: The reason I mentioned Yukon is because Bobby Hurley or

553
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: Danny Hurley knows what it's like to have to win

554
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: three straight weekends where you win two games in a

555
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: row and you winner go home. And they've had a

556
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: pretty good gauntlets this year. They beat Texas by eight,

557
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: they went into Kansas and one by five. They beat

558
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: a very good Illinois team. They did lose Arizona at home,

559
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: but I think it was only by four. I thought

560
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: it was like seventy one sixty seven.

561
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Speaker 6: They come.

562
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're right, Yukon was not going to win

563
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: that game, right, And it was earlier in the here,

564
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Speaker 2: and they had just beaten BYU before and you know

565
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: since then, I mean, if you go into Creighton and

566
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Speaker 2: win by thirty, that's saying something, you know, and you've

567
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 2: beating Villanova Georgetown said. So they've had a pretty good

568
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: little gauntlet. No one's talking about them. It's one of

569
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: those situations where who can come out of left field.

570
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Speaker 2: That's I'll leave you with that last question because it's

571
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Speaker 2: hard to not see. Depending on the brackets on Arizona

572
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Speaker 2: A Michigan, a Duke, Gonzaga baby a Yukon in the

573
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Speaker 2: final four. But who's looming out there? I mean, Houston's

574
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: still very good, et cetera. Is there someone out there

575
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: that could surprise you. I'll okay, I might get punched

576
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: in them out for there could to Miami of Ohio

577
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: surprise you. Possibly.

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Speaker 5: Well, here's the problem with the RedHawks. They're a very

579
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Speaker 5: good team offense. They struggled a little bit lately. They

580
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 5: ended up blown out in Northern Illinois later on today

581
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Speaker 5: in the first sixteen minutes and so little a tighter game.

582
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Speaker 5: They had a game against UMass they went to overtime

583
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 5: in or they just eat out of winning that one.

584
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Speaker 5: The games have become a little bit more difficult there

585
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 5: for seals team. So I'm going to take them off

586
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 5: the table a little bit. I think Nebraska can be dangerous.

587
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 5: Think they're front with a lot of confidence in terms

588
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Speaker 5: of legitimately potentially being an outside team that can win

589
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 5: a national title. I'm going to pick two teams from

590
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Speaker 5: the SEC and one I already mentioned Florida because sorta

591
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 5: is the best rebounding team in the country and offensive rebounding,

592
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 5: they're a menace. It's just hard Shinnelou and Condon. They're

593
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 5: so strong and so big, it's just tough to keep

594
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Speaker 5: off the glass. This is a tough team. It's their

595
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 5: guard player that's going to be the key. And then

596
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Speaker 5: the other team is Alabama because now Alabama's starting to

597
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Speaker 5: get healthy. And you look at a file on and

598
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 5: I forgot who the other his running mate. But they

599
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 5: lead the SECN scoring in terms of duos. They're averaging

600
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Speaker 5: almost thirty six points a game. They're tremendous. But Alabama

601
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 5: already to get healthier, and they can shoot the three

602
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 5: point shot, and they're tough to prepare for if you've

603
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Speaker 5: got to play them on that Friday Saturday as opposed

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Speaker 5: to playing them on that excuse me, on that Saturday Sunday,

605
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 5: as opposed to playing them on the Thursday Friday. So

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Speaker 5: for me, I think these are two teams that can

607
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 5: be dangerous. But Florida because they're gonna be able to

608
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Speaker 5: out rebound anybody. They're gonna get second chance opportunities. They

609
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Speaker 5: can play with anybody, and remember they obviously did it

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Speaker 5: last year. You mentioned one o the team that I

611
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Speaker 5: think is getting overlooked Houston because they've got great guard

612
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Speaker 5: play Kingston Plumbings. If you're not familiar with him, he's

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Speaker 5: going to be a top ten pick. This kid's unbelievable

614
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Speaker 5: out of San Antonio. He's just a freshman. And then

615
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Speaker 5: Milos Uzan and then Emmanuel sharp On with Tugler and

616
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Speaker 5: Senek inside, this team is dangerous. And we know Kelvin

617
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Speaker 5: can coach. So those are a few teams that don't

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Speaker 5: think are getting enough run right now in terms of

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Speaker 5: possible national championship a Final four level.

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Speaker 2: Well, Kelvin you can coach, and Fred Houberg can coach too,

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Speaker 2: So you hit on some good teams there. I'm all

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Speaker 2: love to get you back on when March Madness starts,

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Speaker 2: to get your thoughts and good luck in to Super Bowl. Buddy.

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Speaker 5: Hey, thanks, buddy, appreciate always love catching up with you.

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Speaker 2: Right back at you. It's a mall Shaw. Follow him

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Speaker 2: on Twitter at a mall Shaw one. He's had quite

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Speaker 2: the background and as part of his resume works alongside

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Speaker 2: Brent Musberger. Coming up, we set up to midnight hour

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Speaker 2: from where I sit, it will turn midnight twelve midnight

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Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas, literally on the clock, twenty minutes

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Speaker 2: nine sixty six, three sixty nine. We will have three

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Speaker 2: topics that I'd love to hear your thoughts on. The

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Speaker 2: callers are what make the segment so great. Tonight will

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Speaker 2: be no different. I'm Bernie Frattle. We are coming to

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Speaker 2: your line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 2: All right back in the Bernie Fraddle Show Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are thirteen minutes away from twelve midnight, the clock

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Speaker 2: striking twelve min night, literally from where I sit here

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Perhaps the same for you, but figuraly

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Speaker 2: for all of us. It's the midnight hour. Eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven nine, nine, six six three sixty nine, eight seven

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Speaker 2: seven ninety nine one Fox. We very much look forward

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Speaker 2: to hearing from you, and the midnight hour is a

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Speaker 2: colloquialism for you know you got the last word. So

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Speaker 2: callers have been great. Tonight should be no different. So

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Speaker 2: here's the first topic, and this is a fairly serious one.

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Speaker 2: All Right, you're gonna hear these names, Charles Bettioco and

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Speaker 2: Amari Bailey. They're at the center of a landmark legal

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Speaker 2: shift in college eligibility nca eligibility because both these guys

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Speaker 2: are attempting to return to college basketball after they've played

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Speaker 2: professional basket the ball, one in the NBA and the

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Speaker 2: other in the G League. So I know some people

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Speaker 2: are outraged about this. Listen. You know we know about

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Speaker 2: nil we know about the transfer portal, we know about

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Speaker 2: the professionalism of college sports. It's well underway. I heard

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Speaker 2: some guys say if this continues, college sports are over. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know about all that. Arenas are packed, stadiums

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Speaker 2: are pack, advertising dollars flowing. TV ratings are high. It's

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Speaker 2: never been more popular, frankly, but there's more outrage. But

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Speaker 2: think about this. So this is a weird one. This

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Speaker 2: one feels uncomfortable. I'll start with Bettioco, all right. He

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Speaker 2: returned to Alabama successfully the other day, spent three years

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Speaker 2: in the G League. He was part of the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three NBA draft. He sued the NCAA for eligibility,

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Speaker 2: and he got a temporary straining order about a week ago,

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Speaker 2: and now he was allowed to play right away for Alabama.

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Speaker 2: He made his debut against Tennessee a few days ago.

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Speaker 2: Amari Bailey he announced his intention to wanting to return

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Speaker 2: to college basketball, hiring a legal team. But unlike Charles Bettioco,

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Speaker 2: who only played the G League, Bailey actually played in

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Speaker 2: ten NBA games a couple of years ago for Charlotte.

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Speaker 2: Think about that. Think about that. Bailey's only twenty one,

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Speaker 2: Bettioco's twenty three. Down February sixth, which is next third Friday,

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Speaker 2: a court hearing is schedule for Bettioco regarding a preliminary

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Speaker 2: injunction that will determine whether he can continue to play

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Speaker 2: for Alabama the remain of the season. As far as Bailey,

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Speaker 2: his legal team is petitioning me INCA for a waiver.

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Speaker 2: So do you think this is good? I mean, are

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Speaker 2: you okay with this? You might be, And listen. The

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Speaker 2: great thing about the midnight hour is remember I've said

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Speaker 2: this a thousand times that the most boring conversations is

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Speaker 2: when everybody agreed. I don't care if we disagree. Justify

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Speaker 2: it with relevant specifics. Give me your thoughts, accurate knowledge,

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Speaker 2: per perhaps personal experience. Bring your receipts. I'm good. We've

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Speaker 2: never had a topic where everybody agreed. We usually get

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Speaker 2: almost twenty callers every week, and we've never had a

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Speaker 2: topic whe everybody agreed on one side. I fully expect

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Speaker 2: some people say, hey, let Bernie wake up. This is reality.

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Speaker 2: This is the reality of the college sports landscape now.

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Speaker 2: Or people say this is ridiculous. What the hell you

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Speaker 2: can go play? Okay, well, how about quarterbacks? What if

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Speaker 2: it's not working out for you. I'm told that Ty

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Speaker 2: Simpson was offered as much as ten million dollars the

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Speaker 2: Alabama quarterback to go play for two or three schools,

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Speaker 2: but he said it would code damage his legacy. What legacy?

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Speaker 2: He had fifteen starts at Alabama, including a thirty eight

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Speaker 2: to three loss to Indiana, including getting housed by Georgia.

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Speaker 2: What legacy? Not Ty Cobb, You're Ty Simpson. But if

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Speaker 2: basketball players can do it, does that open the door

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Speaker 2: for football players? You get to drift our topic number two.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna do this, but I had to. You

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Speaker 2: all know I was an intern at the Forum. I

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Speaker 2: saw the showtime Lakers court side Magic's rookie year and

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Speaker 2: many times throughout the eighties, Lebron James had to do

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Speaker 2: it again. He said, well, you know, it's really hard

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Speaker 2: playing eighty two games in the twenty twenties now, because

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Speaker 2: you know the game is a lot faster than Iowa.

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Speaker 2: You have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: You're making my teeth ititch no clue. You don't think

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Speaker 2: the Showtime team is fast, or the eighty six Celtics

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Speaker 2: were fast, or those Denver Nuggets teams or those Paul

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Speaker 2: West Fall Phoenix teams. You weren't there. You weren't there.

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Speaker 2: You were running around your dad's Cojone's for the first

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Speaker 2: four years of the decade. When you popped out, you

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Speaker 2: were too little to know what's going on. And now

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Speaker 2: you don't know what's going on. You weren't there in

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Speaker 2: the decade of the eighties. I would love one time

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Speaker 2: to see Lebron drive the lane against a Ricky Mahorn

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Speaker 2: or Elannie Shelton or a West Sun Sald Remember the

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Speaker 2: Jordan rule the Pistons had. Okay, I'm not saying he

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Speaker 2: might not be successful in the eighties. What I am

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Speaker 2: saying is I like to see him have done it.

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Speaker 2: You know, Bill Russell said it best. I love Bill Russell,

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Speaker 2: an elegant man, won nine championships. Okay, that's how you

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Speaker 2: do it, Jabar, that's how you do it. Magic Kobe,

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Speaker 2: Who am I leaving out? Jordan, Doctor Jake. These are

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Speaker 2: elegant men. Lebron continues to be clunky. Am I wrong?

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Speaker 2: Tell me? I don't think Lebron knows what the hell

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Speaker 2: he's talking about. He's making false assumptions about the NBA

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Speaker 2: in the nineteen D's not a clue. And if you

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Speaker 2: weren't there at courtside to see it like I was,

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Speaker 2: then you should recuse yourself. You're gonna have an opinion,

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Speaker 2: but it's not gonna be a very solid one. So

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Speaker 2: Topic number one Charles Bettiaco Amari Bailey college basketball players

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Speaker 2: who became NBA players as it were, and they want

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Speaker 2: back in college. This is weird. If it happens, it happens,

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Speaker 2: we're still gonna. I'm still gonna keep watching games. But

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Speaker 2: how do you feel about this? In the president it sets?

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Speaker 2: Does it make you feel uneasy or do you think

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Speaker 2: it's just part of the you know, continued extension of

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Speaker 2: the professionalism with college sports with an il and big

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Speaker 2: money and the transfer portal topic number two. Lebron has

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Speaker 2: said it's much harder to play eighty two games now

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Speaker 2: because in the eighties, you know, the game wasn't that fast.

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Speaker 2: You have no idea what you're talking about. By the way,

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Speaker 2: give it up the kaream I'll do with Jabbar. I'm

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Speaker 2: tired of this unprecedented crap. Jabar. When he was forty,

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Speaker 2: he played eighty games. Lakers won a championship. When Jabar

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Speaker 2: was forty one, played eight seventy four games. Lakers won

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Speaker 2: a championship, but he was forty two. They got to

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Speaker 2: the NBA finals for the third years in a row.

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Speaker 2: He was highly productive, by the way, at forty in

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Speaker 2: the eighty seven finals, he was stellar. Averaged twenty two points,

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Speaker 2: seven rebounds, two and a half blocks. Jabar went to

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Speaker 2: college for four years and won championships. That's why this

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Speaker 2: twenty three year things on president and they couldn't even

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Speaker 2: play varsity as a freshman when Jabar was in college.

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Speaker 2: So enough of this unprecedented stuff. Finally, okay, you saw

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick get snubbed as it were. According to Rob Parker,

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Speaker 2: they should do the same thing to Tom Brady? Will

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Speaker 2: they do the same thing to Tom Brady when it's

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Speaker 2: his turn? Give me your thoughts. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: get deep into the Belichick I think I don't care.

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Speaker 2: I just don't care, and I'm sick of it. So

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Speaker 2: Topic one, the college players Bettiaco and Bailey going back

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Speaker 2: then Lebron, then, will they do the same thing to Brady?

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Speaker 2: Eight seven, seven nine nine six six three six nine.

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Speaker 2: It's time for the midnight hour, And that's right. You

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Speaker 2: heard the man. The Bernie Frattle Show keeps rolling right

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Speaker 2: along company live from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio City.

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Speaker 2: It's just getting started. We'll take you after three m Pacific,

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Speaker 2: six am Eastern. Our three topics. It's time. We've got

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Speaker 2: Charles Bettiaco and Amari Bailey, two players who've spent time

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Speaker 2: in the NBA, albeit one of them in this G league.

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Speaker 2: But you get the drift they want to come back

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Speaker 2: and play in college. This s it's a weird precedent

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Speaker 2: what I said about Ty Simpson Alabama. Your thoughts, sign

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Speaker 2: of the times, get over at Bernie or hey, this

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Speaker 2: is bad. Number two, Lebron's added again not a clue

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Speaker 2: about how basketball was actually played in the eighties. I

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Speaker 2: was there courtside many times. Would love to see him

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Speaker 2: drive the land against Ricky Mulhorn or Lonnie Shelton or

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Speaker 2: what's on sale? Do you get the picture way out

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Speaker 2: of his mind? Much easier to play eighty two games now, sure?

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Speaker 2: And then number three? Do you think the voters will

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Speaker 2: do the same thing to Tom Brady first ground that

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Speaker 2: they did to Bill Belichick? Time for the bend that hour?

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Speaker 2: All right, we waste no time. Let's get a roll

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Speaker 2: a Jim in Massachusetts. You're bat laid off tonight, Buddy,

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Speaker 2: get us started.

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Speaker 9: Hey Bernie, how's it going?

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Speaker 2: Hey Liftings.

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Speaker 9: I don't believe that these twenty three year olds and

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Speaker 9: everything should go back, you know, playing with seventeen eighteen

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Speaker 9: year olds. I mean, once you're gone, you're gone. You

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Speaker 9: should be able to come back like the guy put

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Speaker 9: him in the Alabama lineup. But all those kids think

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Speaker 9: this guy come walking in and he's trying to play

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Speaker 9: and everything. I mean, you gotta take a chemistry and everything.

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Speaker 9: But then again, the flip to coin, the side of

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Speaker 9: that coin is look at calif Perry. He made a

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Speaker 9: career of this one and done. You know, all the

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Speaker 9: freshmen coming in playing one year and leaving. I had

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Speaker 9: forgotten when Kareem played, the freshman had to sit on

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Speaker 9: the bench. I've forgotten about that till you mentioned it.

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Speaker 9: But I'm not that for.

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Speaker 2: That fresh one team with wal Hazard actually beat the

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Speaker 2: varsity that year. With conversation are different that you bring

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Speaker 2: up an excellent point to bring a guy in. What

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Speaker 2: how does the rest of the roster look at this?

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Speaker 2: That's an excellent point. Jim, all right. Your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: Lebron saying it was much easier to play eighty two

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Speaker 2: games in the eighties.

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Speaker 9: Well, Lebron could not have played in the eighties. He

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Speaker 9: could not have played because he doesn't have the mental capacity.

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Speaker 9: He's such a child upstairs between his is. You know,

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Speaker 9: he's a he's a big brute. I mean, you've seen

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Speaker 9: all the videos how he went shut at AAU games

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Speaker 9: and everything with his kids and everything. He's always been,

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Speaker 9: you know, as big as he was Forsana, you know,

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Speaker 9: right out of high school to play the God bless them.

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Speaker 9: But the day he could have played with men, no, No,

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Speaker 9: that's when men played the game back then.

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Speaker 2: I just think, you know, listen, you're in Boston, I

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Speaker 2: love Bill Russell respective immensely. He once said, don't compare

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Speaker 2: a ghosts, don't compare eras. Once again, Lebron his mouth

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Speaker 2: is his enemy. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

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Speaker 2: Whether or not he'd have been successful in the eighties,

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Speaker 2: I won't debate that, but I'll just say this. The

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Speaker 2: notion that it was easier then because the game court

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Speaker 2: wasn't as fast stupid statement. Sorry, Jim, it.

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Speaker 9: Wasn't sent you know what. I'll even go back further.

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Speaker 9: All right, Let a match up against Dave Cowens six nine, playing.

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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go, Bill like a brick house.

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Speaker 9: He would have crippled that guy. I mean not physically,

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Speaker 9: but mentally he would have been No. Lebron just doesn't

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Speaker 9: have have the brains.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 9: I mean, God, blessom he made his money, did all

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Speaker 9: he did, but you know, jumping around from team to

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Speaker 9: team to team and then then whining because they didn't

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Speaker 9: win ten in a row and I want to go

850
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 9: someplace else, you know, you know, you know, forget him.

851
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 9: But the Belichick thing and the Brady thing the only

852
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 9: reason Belichick, the only reason Belichick didn't get into the Hall.

853
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 9: It wasn't about spygate on soft football.

854
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 6: It's because he's a real painter.

855
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 10: In the rear red No.

856
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: I know he made the statement a long time ago

857
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: regarding the media, I have nothing to do with the media.

858
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: If I lose, you can't save me. If I win,

859
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: you can't touch me. All I really want to know,

860
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: because I'm burned out on the Belichick topic. Will they

861
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: do the same to Tom Brady when it's his turn?

862
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 9: Oh, geez, I don't. I don't think so. I think

863
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 9: they've learned their lesson right now. I mean, look at

864
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 9: Jimmy Johnson's not going to go to the Hall of

865
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 9: Fame induction thing. This shit. A lot of people aren't

866
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 9: going at it.

867
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: Boy, these writers can be very petulant. Man. I've sat

868
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: in too many press backs is near these nerds, and

869
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: they can be I can tell you they can really u.

870
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 9: When you want to think about Pat Burney, all you

871
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 9: got to think about a child's box. You see the

872
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 9: guys that never played the game and never got the

873
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 9: girl in high school.

874
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: Jim lead us off today, all right, Jim, good stuff,

875
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: good with good Dave Collins, nice poll there, and oh,

876
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: by the way, we'll find out Sunday, if Lebron is

877
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 2: voted into the reserves All Star Game, remember how he

878
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: was last year, didn't even show up and didn't anybody

879
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: know on game day, and that cost Norman Poulls his

880
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: All Star chance. Mike in Las Vegas. Welcome in, Mike,

881
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: How are you, buddy?

882
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, it's great, And I like the topics tonight.

883
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 11: Those three guys that want to go back to college

884
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 11: ball or whatever play a game, they sound like spoiled brats.

885
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 11: They're trying to remediate your life. They had their chance,

886
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 11: they didn't take a dand each of it. So they

887
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 11: want to break the rules and go back and play

888
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 11: college ball and don't get more deserving player as a

889
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 11: chance for support scholarship. So to me, they sound like

890
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 11: spoiled brats.

891
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: Sums down, good, good, Mike wrong. Number two is Lebron

892
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: right or wrong that it was easier to play in

893
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: the eighties.

894
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 11: Lebron live in a dream world.

895
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 12: I mean, now they have these guys that take the

896
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 12: days off and and and.

897
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 11: So forth, commercial right, right, and they get all this

898
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 11: medical science now that that makes it easier for today players.

899
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 5: Lebron is totally wrong.

900
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: Third topic, good stuff Mike. Uh, will they do the

901
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: same to Tom Brady when he's eligible to be voted

902
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: to the Hall of Fame.

903
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 11: Tom Brady's probably the best quarterback of all time. He

904
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 11: has class and brains. He's doing a good job on

905
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 11: on Fox TV, you know, analyzing games. I think they'll

906
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 11: really treat Tom Brady well and not go to the

907
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 11: same bill fella check staff. I think that Tom gets

908
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 11: a pass from people acting stupid and not voting him

909
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 11: in on the first ballid.

910
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, Mike, appreciate your stuff tonight. And by

911
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: the way, we'll have to wait till twenty twenty eight

912
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: for that. That'll be the end of his five year

913
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 2: mandatory waiting period. We go to Denver. Welcome in, Jeff, Hey, Jeff,

914
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: how are you good? Bernie good Man? Take it away.

915
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 13: The first two the first topic. I don't really know

916
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 13: who those guys are. I'm you know.

917
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 2: I'm more asking about the president, Jeff, in light of

918
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: NIO and transfer portal and all the things that permeate

919
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: college football right now, if a guy isn't making it

920
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: in the pros and it's still early on, can he

921
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: go back and play in college if he has eligibility

922
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: do you think that president should be valid.

923
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 13: I don't know. I'm on the fence on that, because.

924
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 12: Eligibility is eligibility.

925
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 13: They've le okay, okay.

926
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 2: People, that argument's been that argument's been brought up. All right,

927
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 2: let's get to Lebron. Then your thoughts on Lebron.

928
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 13: Oh that's my detouching nerve. There no way could he

929
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 13: have played in the eighties. Well, eighties was bully. I

930
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 13: mean that was Bill Lambert would have just put a

931
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 13: forearm shiver over his neck and stood over him like

932
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 13: get up, sissy, come on, get up. And a heart

933
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 13: heart foul in the eighties is a fragrant foul. Now,

934
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 13: you couldn't. I mean these guys. I mean, there's a

935
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 13: guy from Denver. I can't remember his name right now,

936
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 13: it's not Calvin nat.

937
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 5: But he said he would have fouled out in the

938
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 5: first quarter.

939
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 11: I mean, well, you.

940
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: Know you heard the names I mentioned, Lennie Shelton and

941
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 2: West Unselled and uh and Ricky Mhorne who also played

942
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: with Bill Ambert.

943
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 14: Uh.

944
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 13: So, yeah, you come down the lane, you come down

945
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 13: the lane and you're Bill Lambert is gonna put a

946
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 13: forearm shiver to your neck. Okay, and that that's what

947
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 13: I don't like.

948
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 2: You said. The game wasn't fast. He didn't no idea

949
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: what he's talking about exactly.

950
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 13: I live in Denver. We know what do.

951
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 2: Yes, Doug Bow, you know you're right. Yeh.

952
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 13: He could never have played in the eighties. The eighty

953
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 13: was he's not tough enough.

954
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 12: All right.

955
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: Finally, do you think in twenty twenty eight, when it's

956
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 2: time for Tom Brady to be voted, you know, would

957
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: they snub him first?

958
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 13: Probably not, because Bill Belichick just gets a lot of

959
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 13: grief on how he treated the media. I think that

960
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 13: might be why they snubbed him. But Tom bro I think.

961
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: That's a lot to do with it. Oh no, I

962
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: think that's a lot to do with it. I really

963
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 2: mean that. And I know that people use the Barry

964
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: Bonds argument and all the MVPs and such, but not

965
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: all this is. This is different. Jeff always appreciated man,

966
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: good Stuff's go out to Delaware. Malcolm joins us, Malcolm,

967
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: is this your first time called the Bernie Frattles Show?

968
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 15: Thank you? I played NCAA Brusity college sports back in

969
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 15: the nineteen sixties. I'm an old guy, so hit me

970
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 15: with your three questions right.

971
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: The first question real quickly. Charles Bettioco and Amari Bailey

972
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 2: are two players.

973
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 15: I think they should be allowed back in because I

974
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 15: think college sports has become professionalized and it's like the

975
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 15: minor leagues. Now. I'm not happy that it became that way,

976
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 15: but it's the reality of how things evolved.

977
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: Okay, fair, I thought that might be a Connor argument,

978
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: and I hear you. I hear you. Number two, Lebron

979
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 2: James claims it was easier to play eighty games eighty

980
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: two games in the eighties because the game was slower,

981
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 2: not as good.

982
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 15: I believe in your previous callers and in what you said.

983
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 13: You're doing a good show.

984
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 15: Lebron is a spoiled child. He's not a real man.

985
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 15: He's had a lot of things go his way. But

986
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 15: I remember, because I'm such an old guy, the Boston

987
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 15: Celtics of Bill Russell, Sash Sanders, you know, Bob Coosey,

988
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 15: John Havelchek.

989
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 16: Lebron is wrong.

990
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 15: Those guys were as quick as lightning and they were champions.

991
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 2: Final question. In two years, Tom Brady will have a

992
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: chance to be voted in as well. Will they snub

993
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: him on the first ballot to be a first ballot

994
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer and send a message of the same

995
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 2: way they did the bill check.

996
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 13: Mister Proud.

997
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 15: I do not believe they will snub him, but I

998
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 15: would not go for him because I believe a Hall

999
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 15: of Fame should be a place where kids visit and

1000
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 15: they want to see examples of good citizenship in baseball.

1001
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 15: I like the guys in the Hall of Fame that

1002
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,359
Speaker 15: also won the Roberto Clementy Award for Community Service. So

1003
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 15: I'm an outlier on that one.

1004
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: Oh, fair enough. I appreciate a strong call, Malcolm from

1005
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: Delaware coming out of the gate, strong with some excellent points.

1006
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: We go to Oregon. Andy in Oregon joined us. Welcome in, Andy,

1007
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: how's it good? Good? Is it your first time calling

1008
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 2: the show?

1009
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 17: I know I've called him the past, but okay.

1010
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 2: Sounds good. Welcome back in, So go ahead and start

1011
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,720
Speaker 2: with the Charles Beniaco O. Mari Bailey thoughts.

1012
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that.

1013
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 17: They should not be about it back in. It'd be

1014
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 17: like a college kid trying.

1015
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 9: To go back to high school.

1016
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 18: You know.

1017
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 17: It's just they've had experience with the pros and so

1018
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 17: I think it took an underfair advantage.

1019
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: It's just weird to me. It's once you know, I

1020
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 2: played minor league baseball, I can only speak for baseball. Okay,

1021
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 2: once you set foot in the college campus, you can't

1022
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: sign with the team until you complete your junior year,

1023
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: your turn twenty one. And also the minute you step

1024
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: foot in a professional baseball environment, and the minor leagues

1025
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: are professional baseball, you're done. You forfeit all your eligibilities.

1026
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: So it just feels weird to me. But I'm going

1027
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: to roll with this and see where this goes. I

1028
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: want to hear what the people say. All right, Lebron

1029
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: said it was much easier to play eighty games in

1030
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: the eight in the eighties more so than now. You

1031
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 2: agree with him.

1032
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 17: I mean, I think I'm going to take it in

1033
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 17: a different direction. I think in the future it's going

1034
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 17: to be the same thing with a different superstar. You know,

1035
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 17: it's always going to be comparing the different areas, and

1036
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 17: it's just a waste of time. I mean, you know,

1037
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 17: you'll never know because he's never gonna get to play,

1038
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 17: so I mean, he's just he happen to get you know.

1039
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 17: Stay in the headlines, all right.

1040
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: Last one, Tom Brady's chance is twenty twenty eight. Are

1041
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: they gonna snub him first ballot like they did Belichick?

1042
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: He was allegedly part of some spygating deflate gat and

1043
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 2: all that stuff. To your thoughts.

1044
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 17: I don't think they're gonna stub them, but I think

1045
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 17: they probably should. It's like, I know they did great things,

1046
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 17: but they did cheat. It's like we like with the Astros.

1047
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 17: You know, nobody's given the Astros like, oh they're still great.

1048
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 17: They deserve it, you know, to like people know that

1049
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 17: the Patriots cheated.

1050
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 12: It wasn't like, you know, allegedly so. But he won't

1051
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 12: get Tola.

1052
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 2: Well, I think they brought receipt all right, good stuff.

1053
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, don't be a stranger. Look, I think people

1054
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 2: make it up as they go along. As I said

1055
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 2: at the top of the show, people make decisions based

1056
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 2: on emotion to justify it later with logic. A Rod's

1057
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 2: not Hall of Famous, not going to be because of

1058
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: the Pedes thing. But if I'm not mistaken, didn't Big

1059
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: Poppies pd PDEs didn't Big Poppy drop an F bomb

1060
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: to all the folks in Boston and they cheered him

1061
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 2: for it. So he's in the Hall of fame. But

1062
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 2: a Rod's not Bonds, is not Sammy's not Okay, you

1063
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 2: get the picture. We're just getting rolling here. Gary in California,

1064
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: You'll be next Jeromen, Charleston, Martin and Orange and Tony

1065
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 2: in Miami. Please ain't tight. I do want to get

1066
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 2: to everybody. Gunner and Charleston as well. Good to hear

1067
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 2: from you, folks. If you could just be patient, I

1068
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 2: will get to all of you. By the way, have

1069
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 2: you ever wiped with a piece of dry toilet paper

1070
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 2: and wondered? Is this as good as it gets? It's

1071
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 2: not switched to life changing wet extra large flushable Dude

1072
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 2: Wives because wetter just clean's better available at Amazon and

1073
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: at major retailers nationwide. Dude Wives, best clean pants down.

1074
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: You're listening to the Bernie Frawl Show in that hour,

1075
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 2: keep it locked. We'll be right back Fox.

1076
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: Listening to sports radio.

1077
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: All right back in the Bernie Frattle Show. We waste

1078
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: no time diving back into the midnight hour phone minser

1079
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: jam folks, please be patient. You took the time to

1080
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: call in. I want to hear from you. We'll take

1081
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 2: them all in the order they called. We go back.

1082
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 2: Gary in California. Welcome in, Gary Bud, great sire, Thank you, sir.

1083
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 19: Yeah, you know the I don't like the guy that's

1084
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 19: going back into the league. Did one of those guys

1085
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 19: sue to get back in, Yes, yeah, yeah.

1086
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 2: Mario Bailey, well, there's a court hearing for Charles Bettiaco. Uh,

1087
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 2: he's got a preliminary injunction. He's playing for Alabama. We

1088
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: don't know if that can continue. And Bailey is petitioning

1089
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 2: the NCAA. They both got legal teams.

1090
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 19: Yes, yeah, so you know, anything goes. It seems like

1091
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,959
Speaker 19: that's the way it is, you know, want and done

1092
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 19: with the freshman coming out.

1093
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 6: So you know, let it be.

1094
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 5: The Lebron thing gets me.

1095
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 19: That's a nerve for me because I'm a big Steph

1096
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 19: Curry fan, and you know, Lebron gets all the play. Steph,

1097
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 19: you know, does all the good stuff, is a good

1098
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 19: citizen and whatnot, and yet we're always talking about Lebron.

1099
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 19: So yeah, I don't think he could play in the eighties.

1100
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 19: And I do think Steph could play in the Eightiesn't

1101
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 19: that the time? And maybe another discussion on could Steph

1102
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 19: play in the eighties? I think he could, So you know,

1103
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 19: watching that aspect of it. Yeah, the NBA is going

1104
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 19: to miss Lebron when he's done because look at all

1105
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 19: the storylines that follow him around. So he gets eyeballs

1106
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 19: on the game. We'll see what happens when he's not

1107
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 19: playing anymore. The other thing with Brady, Yeah, he's going

1108
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 19: to get in. The NFL has greased the wheels for him.

1109
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 19: He's the he's an announcer, he's a defecto GM for

1110
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 19: the Raiders, So why not.

1111
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 2: Let him in? Well, there's no question a crime. The question,

1112
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 2: as I posed it was, do you think there will

1113
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 2: be enough writers that will hide behind the flake gate

1114
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 2: spygate situation that they're attached to and send a message

1115
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: not letting them in on the first ballot was all

1116
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: I'm I was alluding to.

1117
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 19: Yeah, you know, who really knows my problem with all

1118
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 19: those Hall of Fames?

1119
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 12: And you talked about baseball.

1120
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 19: It's a museum, Bernie.

1121
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 13: You know there's not choir.

1122
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 5: Boys in there.

1123
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 19: It's a museum.

1124
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1125
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 19: I appreciate you know my Barry Bonds. Yeah, he was

1126
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 19: not exactly mister congeniality, but I think he deserves to

1127
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 19: be in along with Clemens and some of the other ones.

1128
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 19: You know it is.

1129
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 2: It is a museum. Bernie Well said, appreciate your thoughts, Gary,

1130
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 2: and I'm in agreement, and I alluded to it's a

1131
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: whole of fame. Fame. Think about how these guys achieve

1132
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: their notoriety. Certainly performance on the field, but they were

1133
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: famous by their know the aura as well. Jerome and Charleston, Man,

1134
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 2: where the hell have you been? Jerome?

1135
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 6: He's passed my bedtime. But I decided to stay up

1136
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 6: and get up and wake up and call your show

1137
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 6: if you were on? Man, what a hypocrite you on?

1138
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 6: You think Bonds and Crimson being the halt?

1139
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 2: He No, When did I say that? When did I

1140
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: say that?

1141
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 14: You know?

1142
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 2: I was alluding to. I was drying a parallel, my friend.

1143
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: I was drawing it. Have been into Grandpa's cough syrup tonight,

1144
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: have you?

1145
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 10: They're never getting in?

1146
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 6: Okay, Bonds and Crimson.

1147
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 13: He's got a commercial that.

1148
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 6: They run me all the time.

1149
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 10: He's never getting in.

1150
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 6: Oh how many commercial he runs? All right, he's never

1151
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 6: getting in. And as far as these players jumping back

1152
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 6: and forth, Court's doing this all the time. That's the

1153
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 6: kid out in Washington. He's gotten agreement with the school

1154
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 6: in Washington. Yeah, he wants to leave and go somewhere else.

1155
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 6: What about the quarterback from Duke nam Mepta, what he's

1156
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 6: got to do with do he.

1157
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: Just won his lawsuit? Yeah, but this is a little

1158
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: different scenario. Okay, so your points taken. This is all

1159
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: just Chris for the mill. Once you got into L

1160
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 2: A N I L and in transfer portal and players

1161
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: being paid and agents and lawsuits, what the hell they expect?

1162
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 2: Nest I just never envisioned the scenario. Jeromore guy would

1163
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 2: be in the pros and go back to college, that's all.

1164
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, coaches do this all the time. You ever hear

1165
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 6: that song smiling faces Sometimes that don't tell the truth.

1166
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: The undisputed truth, my friend, the under they were a

1167
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 2: one hit wonder, the undisputed truth. Great song.

1168
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 10: Shut your hand, yo, Yeah, oh I love you.

1169
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 6: Next wen, you're walking off with somebody else and it's fun.

1170
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 6: Another thing about Lebron dam Hey, I'm always going to

1171
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 6: be all Lebron James time, except for the time with

1172
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 6: Miami when he was talking about how many talents he's

1173
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,959
Speaker 6: going to win, you know, because God was a little

1174
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 6: disrespect of the process.

1175
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 2: You you think his statement has merit. The game was

1176
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: easier in the eighties.

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00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 6: I don't know about easy bow. Freder Well, he said,

1178
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,160
Speaker 6: did you see what he got hit by Draymond Green

1179
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 6: the playoffs a couple of years ago. He walked the

1180
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 6: dickens out of him and he got right up, went

1181
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 6: to the FALLO didn't Italian or anything. Okay, he could

1182
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 6: have played, he said, eight two hundred and fifty pounds.

1183
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 2: I never said he. I never said he couldn't play

1184
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 2: in the eighties. What I said was, I'm not buying

1185
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 2: his bologney that it was easier to play eighty games

1186
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 2: in the as than it is now. He just covering

1187
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 2: his ass. It's always about him. Continue on.

1188
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 6: Lebron James had to realize there are people at fucks

1189
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,439
Speaker 6: that have an agenda against you. No matter what you say,

1190
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 6: they're gonna come on and say something bad about you.

1191
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 6: But he said he got the care and then the

1192
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 6: way he does and the way he does, and so

1193
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 6: I'm always be on his side, and I'm glad he

1194
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 6: got emotional, and it should be the cleanland.

1195
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 12: I want you to be emotional.

1196
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 6: This is your life, man. You've come a long way,

1197
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 6: You've done a lot you should be grateful every day.

1198
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 6: And I know he's grateful. I know you, so I

1199
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 6: don't care what they say about him. Now, what was

1200
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 6: your on the topic.

1201
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, last thing, real quickly. Tom Brady in twenty

1202
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 2: twenty eight will be eligible to be voted. Will they

1203
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 2: send him a message and snub him as the first

1204
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: balah Fowers?

1205
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,040
Speaker 6: No, because they're giving the fuck your network giving him

1206
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 6: billion dollars.

1207
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 2: Okay, what does that have to do with petulant writers?

1208
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 2: They'd like to settle scores.

1209
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 6: Toob petulus could be talk to you know, all right?

1210
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 2: Hey they wait, wait, Jerome, hangout. Don't hang up yet.

1211
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 2: The minute you invoked smiling faces by the undisputed truth,

1212
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: Big time, Jerome, big time pulled by you, my friend.

1213
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 2: Remember your enemy can't do you no harm because you

1214
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: know where they're coming from.

1215
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 6: I got music in my head twenty four seven. I

1216
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 6: can't help it.

1217
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: Jerome, get some rest, my friend. I always appreciate you.

1218
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: Martin and Orange looking forward to this.

1219
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 6: Call, Bernie readings and sow mutations.

1220
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 20: Now, I'm just gonna jump right into it. And when

1221
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 20: I was a young man, still testing my metal at

1222
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 20: the community college level, I was on a football team,

1223
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 20: and we had a running back that was destroying everybody

1224
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 20: and we were four and oh and this guy was

1225
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 20: daining like three hundred yards of games. And then we

1226
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 20: found out he was in the training camp for the

1227
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 20: golfs two years ago, didn't make the team, decided to

1228
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 20: come back. My point is this has happened all the time.

1229
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 20: People are always trying to circumvent the rules. And no,

1230
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 20: once you got you try to make that jump.

1231
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 10: Once you try to go pro, I don't care how

1232
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 10: many years you got, you.

1233
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 20: Should lose all your eligibility.

1234
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: Well that the tips in baseball now, Martin real quickly,

1235
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 2: just for giggles, Yeah, I'm gonna get did you play

1236
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 2: at Orange Coast Fullerton JC? Cypress still back, where'd you play?

1237
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 10: I played at Fullerton JC.

1238
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 2: Hey one of the great bard of the true Oh

1239
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 2: he had famous play there. Yes, all right, continue on.

1240
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 6: I mean, like I said, it was in when Lebron James.

1241
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 20: I think it was just a chilly statement that it's

1242
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 20: easier to play in the eighties with the thing of

1243
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 20: sports medicine, science and sports have combined, and this is

1244
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 20: what makes our players a little bit better and a

1245
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 20: little bit healthier.

1246
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 6: Back in the eighties.

1247
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 20: I think it was just a tougher kind of grip.

1248
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 20: But of course he can play, because.

1249
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: I was thinking, well, that wasn't the issue. Somehow, this, somehow,

1250
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 2: this that this topic on hijacked. I wasn't asking if

1251
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 2: he could play in the eighties. What I was saying.

1252
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 2: He was full of crap that the game was easier

1253
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 2: in the eighties. He's wrong. He was running out his

1254
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: dead falls till nineteen eighty five. Then he pops out

1255
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 2: or December thirty of the nineteen eighty four. He doesn't

1256
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: know what he's talking about.

1257
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 20: And if you didn't see it yet, be six foot

1258
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 20: ten and try to write commercial.

1259
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 6: In the eighties, they got private.

1260
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 2: I played back to back to back nights.

1261
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:21,919
Speaker 10: Thank you, Bernie, thank you, now Tom the last one. Yeah,

1262
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 10: remind me again because.

1263
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: I just ever so quickly yes or no. Will Tom

1264
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 2: Brady get the same treatment Bill Belichick got in twenty

1265
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 2: twenty eight first ballot Hall of Fame?

1266
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 20: Now, really, I really believe if the writers had any

1267
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 20: intentional fortitude, they wouldn't.

1268
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 10: Put him in on the first ballot.

1269
01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 20: I think it hard to believe that you take stuff

1270
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 20: like Spygate into Blake Gate and you're gonna put it

1271
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 20: on Belichick and say, well, well, look he could in

1272
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 20: have won without this and the same quarterback, same.

1273
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 10: Game, he said, be able to be like, hey, these wins,

1274
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 10: they may be chanted.

1275
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 20: And baseball it's almost the exact opposite Bernie, where they

1276
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 20: vilify a man like Barry Bond, who is probably the

1277
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 20: greatest baseball player in the modern time and should be

1278
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Speaker 20: in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 10: But they let a manager like Jim Leland who got

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01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 10: a lot of winds because the Barry bump's.

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Speaker 2: Back and I'll do you. I'll do you one better Martin,

1282
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 2: and I gotta let you run. How about Bud Seelik.

1283
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 2: He's in the Hall of Fame. He presided over that

1284
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 2: whole era. And I kind of like Budd. I met him.

1285
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 2: I didn't like huntil I met him.

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01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 10: Baseball used it. They needed it to get.

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Speaker 20: That to the prominent.

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01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 2: We know it, everybody. I was in the middle of it.

1289
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,439
Speaker 2: I didn't get We winked at it, Martin. Great stuff

1290
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 2: is always appreciate you, by the way, Fullerton, JC, Yeah,

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01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 2: they can ball up over there. They put a bunch

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Speaker 2: of guys in the NFL. Gunnar in Minnesota, welcome in gunner.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Altamon, Bernie, A long time on top.

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01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 2: Good while welcome in.

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Speaker 7: All right, now, the first topic, I hope it didn't

1296
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 7: show long to skids back. And once you're drafted, you're drafted. No,

1297
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 7: you shouldn't be a lot back in college. Stay in

1298
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 7: that bed and see where it goes.

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01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: Well, to be fair, to be fair, I don't think

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01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 2: Bettiaca was drafted. But he played. He played in G

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01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 2: league games, Okay, but he actually played in ten Yeah,

1302
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: but he durned a paycheck playing basketball. Now you get

1303
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 2: to go back, all right, fair enough, they shouldn't be back.

1304
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 2: Number two, Your thoughts on Lebron and whether or not

1305
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 2: it was actually easier to play in the eighties so

1306
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 2: he could easier to play the two games? All right?

1307
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 7: Well, I'm I wasn't around that time, but I know

1308
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 7: it was not either from what I heard.

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01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 9: No way.

1310
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 7: He's turning stops himself.

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01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 13: Is it's just the way it is now.

1312
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 7: It's easier now, it is what eighty two games?

1313
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 13: And is back then?

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01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: Last question, Tom Brady, will he get it in first

1315
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: ballot or they give him the Belichick treatment.

1316
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 7: They're not gonna give him the dollar checks statement.

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01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 13: He's the goals.

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01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 19: Of course, that's the.

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01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: That's what I think. You'd be surprised how many people

1320
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 2: don't think he is looking at you, Ryan Clark Gunner.

1321
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 2: Appreciate you man. We got so many calls to that.

1322
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 2: I gotta told him and thanks so much. Appreciate you.

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01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 2: Tony and Miami. Welcome back in Tony. Good evening.

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01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 16: Hey Bernie, what's going on. I wanted to really weigh

1325
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,479
Speaker 16: in on the Lebron thing, but the just to answer

1326
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:30,919
Speaker 16: the quick question to get those out.

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Speaker 6: Of the way.

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Speaker 16: Uh, you know, if they're paying. If they're paying the

1329
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 16: college players, you're either any you're out. If they're not

1330
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 16: getting paid, I'm fine with you know, if it's a

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01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 16: college wants him back, but no, if they're getting paid,

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01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 16: you you kind of you don't get it both ways.

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Speaker 21: Uh.

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Speaker 16: The Tom Brady, no, of course they're not going to

1335
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 16: leave him out of the Wall game.

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Speaker 15: And it's really sad.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't think so.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's sad with the at Belichick.

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01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 16: But on the Lebron thing, I've actually had a discussion

1340
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 16: with a lot of the hoopeads in the last ten

1341
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 16: fifteen years about where he would have landed. I started

1342
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 16: watching Isaiah Thomas as a little kid in the late eighties.

1343
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 5: So I don't want to speak.

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01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 16: Like I knew the eighties, but from what I'm seeing,

1345
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 16: if he's going directly on the eighties, no, it's not

1346
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Speaker 16: at all. Basketball is the cerebral game and what they.

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01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 22: Did in the eighties because they were men, and if

1348
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 22: you take the old forum of what it was, I think.

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01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 16: He would have I would have respected him more.

1350
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 13: I think you would have respected.

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01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 16: Him more if he was born thirty years or twenty

1352
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 16: five years before he was, or whatever, if you played

1353
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 16: in the mad or late eighties. I think every man

1354
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 16: in the eighties, from the cut of their GiB was,

1355
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 16: had a.

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01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 22: Higher level of honor of being a man.

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Speaker 16: And he's kind of the product of the disaster, you know,

1358
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:17,759
Speaker 16: society of humanity, you know of what happened, the YouTube

1359
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 16: bubble boy that had always had a bunch of sicko

1360
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 16: fans running around him, you know, saying yes, since he

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01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 16: was what seven years old? So I still would he

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01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 16: would he have? I think his game would have been different.

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01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 16: I think he would have been a quicker, but weaker

1364
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 16: version of a karm Alone. The numbers not at all

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01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 16: would have been inflated. Because in nineteen.

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Speaker 22: Eighty eight, if he scored twenty three, it had it

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01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 22: was like it had there was no inflation to it.

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Speaker 16: It had a back into that twenty three points. But

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Speaker 16: at the end of the day, I think we would

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Speaker 16: all respected him so much more. And even if he

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Speaker 16: won one, I see him possibly landing in that top

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01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 16: ten eleven playing in that era kind of where maybe

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Speaker 16: like a hot team is but again.

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Speaker 22: Not there's no power play in it. Then if you

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01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 22: know the other callers are saying, correct, I mean Malone

1376
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:13,679
Speaker 22: would have throwed an elbow.

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Speaker 16: It's had a lafter idea in the back of Lebron's

1378
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 16: head and he had forty one stitches.

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Speaker 2: I'll let you go, Tony, great stuff, very thoughtful as

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01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 2: always really appreciate you, Tony. And there is an interesting issue.

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01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: Hopefully we're not offending anybody. But the game in the

1382
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 2: eighties was prosecuted differently, and there was a certain mentality

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01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 2: insidegeist among the players in the league, and there were

1384
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 2: a lot of stars and they played a much little

1385
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 2: different level of defense. Just wasn't there, Hugh on the five,

1386
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 2: always a pleasure. Welcome in you, Hey, Bertie, why do

1387
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 2: you got forced tonight? Buddy.

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01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:53,640
Speaker 14: All right, So you made an interesting point about the

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01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 14: two players coming back. You mentioned the popularity of the

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01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 14: game right now, and of course if they weren't able

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01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 14: to come back, that would probably raise the popularity even

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01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 14: more because it would be a landmark decision and there

1393
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 14: would be eyeballs on those two players and people would

1394
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 14: follow what was going to happen on that, and I.

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Speaker 12: Would I would ask you this learninge.

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Speaker 14: So imagine if you go to college and you're not

1397
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 14: you're not an athlete, and after two years you got

1398
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 14: to go do something for whatever reason, then you come

1399
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 14: back to school to.

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Speaker 12: Finish your education. You're always allowed to come back.

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01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,759
Speaker 14: So for athletes, if you just give them four years,

1402
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 14: even though like the Mormons say, hey, all right, you

1403
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 14: got two years, go do what you're going to do.

1404
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 14: You're gonna come back and can play, but you got

1405
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 14: four years. I don't know where people get away playing

1406
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 14: like seven years, sometimes by appealing to dancaa, like the

1407
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,879
Speaker 14: quarterback from Utah a few years.

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Speaker 23: Ago, for example.

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01:11:58,680 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

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01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 5: I kind of have an open mind.

1411
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 12: Even though you.

1412
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 2: Raise a valid point, I think your you overarching point

1413
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 2: is that if you have eligibility, you never lose it.

1414
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 2: You can come back and use it. And if we

1415
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 2: go down that road, we go down that road.

1416
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 9: Uh.

1417
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 2: I'd love to hear more on this topic. Let's get

1418
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 2: to the next one because I've got so many darn callers.

1419
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: You your thoughts on Lebron and his assertion.

1420
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 23: I mean, okay, so I'll answer the question off the bat.

1421
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 14: If the Celtics clothesline Kurt ramd this while you were

1422
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 14: watching the Lakers, what would they do to Lebron's Okay,

1423
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 14: so you know, Lebron would have to change his game.

1424
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 14: His game, the way he plays wouldn't go back in

1425
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 14: the eighties because right now everybody posts up, you know, outside.

1426
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 13: The three point line. He can he can d drive.

1427
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 12: He's not he's not the cleanest shooter.

1428
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,879
Speaker 14: He kind of sort of has like half like Shaquille O'Neals,

1429
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 14: sort of like Riff.

1430
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 13: You know, he's not clean.

1431
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 14: So yeah, he was, Billik caller said, h yeah, maybe

1432
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 14: tenth or eleventh top in that era. I don't know that,

1433
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 14: but he would get drilled if you have the attitude

1434
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 14: that he has now.

1435
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 2: I just my thought he was his his the assertion,

1436
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: the notion that it was much younger to play eighty

1437
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 2: two games in the eighties.

1438
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,599
Speaker 13: No, no, no, no, Kurt Ramons got clothed lines, Kevin Michale.

1439
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 2: No, yeah, you remember, Yeah, you know what I mean.

1440
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 11: I mean, no, it wasn't.

1441
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 23: It wasn't an easy game to play.

1442
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 2: You know.

1443
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 14: So they're you know, maybe they're in better shape to take,

1444
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 14: you know, like right, there's there's better information, they're eating healthier.

1445
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,560
Speaker 14: But there's no there's no way any team would go

1446
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 14: up against the Celtics or the Lakers and just you know,

1447
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 14: step all over them, like Lebron thinks, maybe.

1448
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 2: You know great stuff real quickly? Will Tom Brady get

1449
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 2: in first ballot?

1450
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 13: Petulant?

1451
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 5: Who knows?

1452
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 2: That's right? I think that's how we don't know, do we? Right?

1453
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 14: I mean you would think you would think you would

1454
01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,840
Speaker 14: never think a guy who coached six Super Bowl teams

1455
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 14: shut out?

1456
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:05,000
Speaker 12: So so who that?

1457
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 13: Who the heck knows?

1458
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 23: But I think I think it would have fixed all

1459
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 23: the Hall of fames is that you have like two

1460
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 23: sections hall of samers, like, well, those guys are studs.

1461
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 13: And then you've got characters.

1462
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 12: Characters you know that would.

1463
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 5: Have let Pete Rose in that was at bonds in.

1464
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 2: Hey, listen, pal, I'm getting the high sign. I always

1465
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 2: wish we had more time. Appreciated you, Uh, John, Greg, Carlos, Rick,

1466
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 2: You'll be our final four. We'll come back, get all

1467
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 2: of you. We're go through as quick as we can.

1468
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 2: I don't want to Buddy, shut out. Keep it locked

1469
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 2: and listening to the Bernie Frattles.

1470
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,000
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1472
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:53,600
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1473
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:54,400
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1474
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 2: All right, back on the Bernie Frattles Show, wrap it

1475
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: up on the midnight hour. Back on to the phones,

1476
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 2: John and Boston, thanks for hanging on.

1477
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 13: Letter it Bud, Good morning, Bernie.

1478
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 2: How you doing good sir? Thank you? Alrighty.

1479
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 5: As far as the first topic, I would say no

1480
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:12,680
Speaker 5: to the fellow's.

1481
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 2: Going back to play college basketball.

1482
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 24: Under that theory, you know, Drake may has another year

1483
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 24: of eligibility, maybe Carolina and helped Bill Belichick finally win

1484
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 24: some games, because Belichick only wins when he has a

1485
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 24: great quarterback. As far as that great quarterback that he

1486
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 24: had for a long period of time, Tom Brady will

1487
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,360
Speaker 24: get in because Tom Brady is a master politician.

1488
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 5: He was smart enough to know not to offend the media.

1489
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 24: Where Belichick was just you know so rule point ruthless

1490
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 24: at time.

1491
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 7: So I think you'll get in there.

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Speaker 24: As far as Lebron, and I'm a huge Lebron guy,

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01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 24: I think what people are kind of losing here is

1494
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 24: the nineties were more physical than the eighties. The eighties

1495
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 24: was as high scoring as this decade right now. I

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01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 24: mean there was a lot of points scored in those games.

1497
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:53,920
Speaker 24: Look at the finals between the Lakers and the Celtics.

1498
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 24: You'd see one thirty five, one twenty eight, very high

1499
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 24: scoring games. He could have played in the eighties, he

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01:15:58,400 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 24: would have adjusted.

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01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 13: Is it more difficult than it is now?

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01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 5: I don't think so.

1503
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 24: But the problem with more management that people are forgetting

1504
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 24: in the team propagate this as much as the players, and.

1505
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:10,600
Speaker 5: You got that.

1506
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 2: You're you're not wrong, and I wish you had more time, John,

1507
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: don't be a stranger. Call again, You're you're not wrong.

1508
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 2: But the players are more than you know. They're more

1509
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,799
Speaker 2: than willing to go along with it. But excellent points,

1510
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 2: Greg and Texas, welcome in. Greg.

1511
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 18: I'm against it and it's such a bad present. Number two,

1512
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 18: No wouldn't be easier for Lebron.

1513
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 17: Okay, let me Trey.

1514
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 18: I hope lady didn't get paid for. But we don't

1515
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 18: know what's going to happen there. And that's all I

1516
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 18: got to say.

1517
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,560
Speaker 2: I'm a rapid up, Greg, thanks a lot. I know

1518
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:50,240
Speaker 2: you've called before. I hope we have more time next time.

1519
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,839
Speaker 2: Carlos in Fullerton, California. Welcome in, Carlos.

1520
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 6: Hey, how's it going on with Bernie good sir?

1521
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 2: Thank you?

1522
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:58,960
Speaker 5: Bo Tom Brady.

1523
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 13: That's a tough one.

1524
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 21: Uh uh, I don't know, he might get uh.

1525
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 2: Might not get in.

1526
01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 21: Yeah, he might not get in the versus ballot like

1527
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:16,639
Speaker 21: like dochic because of the chating scandal. Uh to Bailey,

1528
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 21: Uh no, you said the contract with an agent you

1529
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 21: should not be allowed. There's no that's bass a eighties

1530
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 21: and nineties. I'm fifty five. And what's the third topic?

1531
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 2: Just whether or not Lebron.

1532
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 5: Four words? Four words?

1533
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 21: Detroit Pistons and Rick mc horn They.

1534
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 2: Yep, you saw what the.

1535
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 5: Michael Jordan's Michael Jordan's to me rules the grace of

1536
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 5: all time.

1537
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 21: He's a grace of all time, and he would not

1538
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 21: have as many championships.

1539
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 5: He's a great he's a great basketl player.

1540
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 12: I give him that.

1541
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,679
Speaker 21: I'm not saying. I'm not denying that. But it would

1542
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 21: be a rough for Lebron because it was physical with

1543
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 21: the bad boys.

1544
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:04,560
Speaker 14: You know that.

1545
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 2: Well yeah, hey, listen, Carlos, So we're sure I had

1546
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,759
Speaker 2: more time. We're just up against it. Please call again.

1547
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 2: We have a clock to manage.

1548
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 18: Uh.

1549
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 2: Maybe I should have done her better job because I

1550
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 2: hate cut anybody short. Rick and Louisiana will be the

1551
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 2: last word on this these three subjects, and I go ahead, Rick.

1552
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 13: All right, how you doing?

1553
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 2: Burn good?

1554
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 12: But the first thing, as far as them coming back

1555
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 12: after coming back because of eligibility being that means you

1556
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 12: can call NBA players that never went to college.

1557
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 2: That's another excellent point. This slippery slope has me worried. Yep,

1558
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 2: but al, I'm getting the high side. Get to the

1559
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 2: second topic, my friend Belichick or check that that's not

1560
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,320
Speaker 2: the second topic. Lebron was it easier to play in

1561
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 2: the eighties.

1562
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 12: Like he thinks it was. I think all I can

1563
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,400
Speaker 12: say is I remember when the Lakers, you know, in

1564
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,560
Speaker 12: the show time, and when that ball came off the

1565
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,480
Speaker 12: rim if they missed the shot they were taking.

1566
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 2: Off so exactly he said the game wasn't as fast.

1567
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,960
Speaker 2: I agree with you, Rick, just one of those nights

1568
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 2: and we got on layups Hey final saying, well Tom

1569
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 2: Brady get snubbed in his first year of eligibility. Like Belichick, I.

1570
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 12: Think it's a strong possibility that he will. And I

1571
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 12: think that the voters are either gonna be one of

1572
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 12: two things in my opinion. One was Brady nice enough

1573
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 12: where they say, oh, let's go ahead and put him

1574
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 12: in he was nice to or is it a situation

1575
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 12: where they're gonna hold against him where he deflated those

1576
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 12: balls because he did get suspended from games for him

1577
01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 12: deflating that. And if they're holding that against him, and

1578
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 12: from what I'm saying, they can be a little petty,

1579
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 12: but it is holding that cheating against him. Being petty

1580
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 12: is another question. So it just depends on how they

1581
01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:59,920
Speaker 12: view him trying to get eat good point.

1582
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 2: We'll know in two years. Thanks a lot, Rick, and

1583
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 2: I apologize the last four collar callers. You did a

1584
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 2: great job molling through it. Maybe you got to figure

1585
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 2: something out in the future where we spill this into

1586
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 2: one o'clock. I don't like cutting people short. Oh yeah,

1587
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:13,800
Speaker 2: you and the five some of these guys. Look, I

1588
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 2: apologize by the way, Steve tweeted in the twenty three

1589
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 2: year old going back to School, No Kurt Ramits and

1590
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: Carl Malona and back to back. They'd killed the crab

1591
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 2: baby and Rick Barry would have made him look stupid.

1592
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 2: Tom Brady will not get snuffed in his first vote.

1593
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 2: Great job by all the callers. I can't thank you

1594
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 2: enough for the thought, the patience, the creativity, and the candor.

1595
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: I don't feel any phony phoniness. Great job everybody. We'll

1596
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 2: do this again next week. Coming up. We flipped to

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01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 2: the NBA. Keep it locked. It's Bernie Fradles That's right,

1598
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 2: you heard the man, Bernie FRAILESH Show keeps rolling right along.

1599
01:20:46,479 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Fraddlewick kemny Lave for the Fox

1600
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 2: Sports Radio studios here in Las Vegas. Take you up

1601
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 2: to three am Pacific, six am Eastern. But well, we

1602
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 2: got a lot more stuff to talk about and we're

1603
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 2: gonna flip to the NBA. There's a lot of meat

1604
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 2: on the bone. Three simple words. It's that time. Mark

1605
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 2: Medina Medina Magic are Fox Sports Radio NBA guru, also

1606
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 2: a writer for essentially sports Mark. A lot of stuff

1607
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 2: to get to tonight, not the least of which is

1608
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 2: Thursday at noon, is the trade deadline and whether it

1609
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 2: was inevitable, predictable or shocking. It looks now like you're

1610
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 2: honest may be heading to a new home. The question

1611
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 2: is will it happen before Thursday?

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01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 25: Yeah, that's an ultimate question because I think dating back

1613
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 25: to last offseason, myself and plenty of others have thought,

1614
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 25: we know what the ending is, that Giannis Antetokunpo is

1615
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 25: not going to be in Milwaukee Bucks uniform, but we

1616
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 25: just haven't had clarity on when that ending was going

1617
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 25: to happen. So last summer it seemed like it was

1618
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 25: going to happen three consecutive playoff exits, but then the

1619
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 25: Bucks decided to trade Damion Loward and get Miles Herr

1620
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 25: and give them a fighting chance. Here theres a lot

1621
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 25: of question marks on, you know, are the Bucks willing

1622
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 25: to pull the trigger because there's questions about Giannath's calf injury,

1623
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 25: the Golden State Warriors, questions about Jimmy Butler's ACL injury.

1624
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,160
Speaker 25: So if I had to make a prediction, I don't

1625
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 25: think that Giannis actually gets traded before the trade deadline,

1626
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 25: because it's a lot easier for the Bucks to get

1627
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 25: better deals in the offseason. But this whole saga has

1628
01:22:26,200 --> 01:22:29,600
Speaker 25: been predictably unpredictable. So we'll fasten our steat belt and

1629
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 25: see what happens.

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01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 2: To me if it is, do you give any merit

1631
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 2: to the deal or to the to the theory that

1632
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 2: the Spurs are going to make a hard play. They

1633
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 2: got a lot of draft capital, they could give up

1634
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 2: guys like you know, Harrison Barnes, et cetera. Regardless of

1635
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 2: the timing, where do you think he ends up? You know,

1636
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 2: just spitballing.

1637
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:50,560
Speaker 25: Yeah, if I had a guess, I don't think the

1638
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 25: Spurs are going to be in the running. I mean

1639
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 25: to be clear, there's every single team is interested in

1640
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 25: giannasnt Kumbo, but they're third in the West right now.

1641
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:00,880
Speaker 25: They have a good thing going. I don't think that

1642
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 25: they want to sacrifice all of their depths. I think

1643
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 25: the more likely contenders are the Golden State Warriors and

1644
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 25: the New York Knicks. For the Warriors, it's because you know,

1645
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 25: they still have Steph Curry playing at a high level,

1646
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 25: but they're you know, on the outside looking in as

1647
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 25: an eighth seed in the Plans Tournament, and there's a

1648
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,679
Speaker 25: lot of question marks about where they are because Jimmy

1649
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 25: Butler is after the year with an ACL So I think,

1650
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 25: you know, the Warriors have made it clear that pretty

1651
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 25: much everything outside of Steph Curry's on the table, whether

1652
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 25: that's a packaging Jimmy Butler or packaging Jonathan Kamena, Draymond Green,

1653
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 25: Buddy Yield and picks. I think everything is open here.

1654
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 25: But with the Knicks, I think it's a different scenario

1655
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 25: because what they have to offer, Yeah, they have draft picks,

1656
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,160
Speaker 25: but it's more about win now moves. You know, someone

1657
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 25: like o gion and nobis someone that can still move

1658
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,719
Speaker 25: the needle, great two way player. But can the Knicks

1659
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:59,560
Speaker 25: get this kind of deal without giving up Jo and

1660
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 25: Brunt or car anthone town So I think if it's

1661
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 25: in the short term for the Bucks that they still

1662
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,719
Speaker 25: want to be in contention, the Knicks are the better offer,

1663
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 25: but the Bucks are thinking more long term, the Warriors

1664
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 25: are the better offer. But you know, that's why these

1665
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 25: negotiations are going to be pretty pretty unpredictable because it's

1666
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 25: not clear where the Bucks actually stand on what their

1667
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 25: short term priorities.

1668
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 2: Are yeah, and I think you bring up a lot

1669
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 2: of good points about the nick. So there was in

1670
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,720
Speaker 2: a trade already that I kind of caught my eye

1671
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 2: because the Cleveland Calvs got Dennis Shrewder and Kean Ellis.

1672
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 2: I feel like that was a good move for them.

1673
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,479
Speaker 25: Your thoughts, Yeah, it was a good move, but I

1674
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 25: think a lot of it had to do with a

1675
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 25: few things here. One of it's financial. You know, we're

1676
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 25: in a second Apron the world and teams have to

1677
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 25: worry about the payroll, and when you're looking at last year,

1678
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 25: the Calves are willing to put a pay a lot

1679
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 25: of money because they thought they're in the championship mix.

1680
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 25: And so I think it is a good move, but

1681
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,800
Speaker 25: a little bit is a concession that getting DeAndre Hunter

1682
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:08,839
Speaker 25: three and d Player, it wasn't enough of a difference

1683
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 25: maker for them to think that are in championship contention mode.

1684
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 25: So what they decide to do is cut costs but

1685
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 25: also bolstered their backcourt depth because even though it starts

1686
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:22,240
Speaker 25: and ends with Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland, those are

1687
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 25: two players that have gone through injuries in recent seasons.

1688
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 25: So they're just trying to shore it up. So yeah,

1689
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 25: it was a good move, but I think some of

1690
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 25: it is financially driven. And then for the Kings, I

1691
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,800
Speaker 25: think it just shows that you know, there are season

1692
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 25: is a wash, it's a hot mess, and they're just

1693
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 25: trying to collect some respectable assets in return the DeAndre Hunter,

1694
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 25: great three D player and the kind of winning player

1695
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:48,760
Speaker 25: that they need to build around Mark.

1696
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 2: So one last thing about Giannis. Is it true that

1697
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:54,719
Speaker 2: rich Paul is making a run at at Giannis?

1698
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 25: You mean, as far as like representation goes, Yes, yes,

1699
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 25: I think Rich Paul is very aggressive, so I want

1700
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 25: to put it past it. But you know, I don't

1701
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 25: think anything is going to happen before this trade deadline.

1702
01:26:09,640 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 25: I think if something happens, it would be after the season.

1703
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 2: Just so I understand correctly, though, Gianness is not open

1704
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 2: to a trade, right. I mean I didn't confirm that

1705
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 2: with a second source, but that's what I'm hearing.

1706
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 25: Well, he hasn't given a direct trade request, and I

1707
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 25: don't think that. You know, if he gets traded, whether

1708
01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 25: it's before the trade deadline or the offseason, he will

1709
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,759
Speaker 25: say hey, I never asked for a trade. The Bucks

1710
01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 25: traded me but I think it's been indirectly passed along

1711
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:42,639
Speaker 25: through representation that he's opened towards things. But I think

1712
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 25: knowing how Giannie is, the key word that I've gotten

1713
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:48,759
Speaker 25: from people in the Bucks is that he's a loyal person,

1714
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 25: and he does give credit for them drafting him, winning

1715
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 25: a championship and also being aggressive with trying to put

1716
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 25: the best rush around him. Sometimes it's worked, like getting

1717
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 25: Drew Holliday. Sometimes it hasn't worked, like getting Damian Loward,

1718
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 25: but the Bucks front office has always been aggressive. So yeah,

1719
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 25: he hasn't put the trade request informally. I don't think

1720
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 25: he ever will, but there's been enough channels here that's

1721
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 25: made it known he's comfortable. And I think the other

1722
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 25: thing is the writing is on the wall with his

1723
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 25: cap injury that if the Bucks stay status quo, this

1724
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 25: is a lost season. This idea of them, you know,

1725
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 25: fighting for the planned spot isn't really realistic. But the

1726
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 25: other side of the coin is now the Bucks can

1727
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 25: go in tank mode and get a good lottery pick,

1728
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 25: and this is a pretty star studed draft, so you know,

1729
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 25: I think with that the Bucks have are willing to

1730
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 25: listen to offers, but it has to be the right

1731
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 25: offer because they don't want to jeopardize their lottery odds

1732
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 25: as well.

1733
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 2: For a point, Donald Martindina Medina Magic on Fox Sports

1734
01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:02,080
Speaker 2: Radio Nbia Guru, also a writer for Essentially Sports. So

1735
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 2: Paul George haspended twenty five games. This is serious business

1736
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:08,400
Speaker 2: because he makes about four hundred and seventy thousand dollars

1737
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 2: a games. That's like eleven million dollars. That's that's Mark

1738
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 2: Medina money. For crying out loud question for you, do

1739
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,360
Speaker 2: you have any more details on this? There just seems

1740
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 2: to be very vagant of twos about some you know,

1741
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:21,440
Speaker 2: wrong medication.

1742
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 25: Yeah, it's I don't think it's a performance enhancer, you know.

1743
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 25: Paul George and his statement to ESPN suggests that it

1744
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:32,680
Speaker 25: had something to do with, you know what he's been

1745
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 25: trying to address in pass some seasons with mental health.

1746
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:41,240
Speaker 25: But you know, regardless, it's just terrible. I mean, he's

1747
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 25: missing twenty five games. The Sixers are six in the

1748
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 25: East right now, they have a shot to make the playoffs.

1749
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 25: Joel Embiid is playing well Tyree Spax. He's going to

1750
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:56,599
Speaker 25: be an All star. So as a professional athlete, especially

1751
01:28:56,600 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 25: ifho's making Max money. He got to know what's being

1752
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 25: put in your body. And this whole excuse that, oh,

1753
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 25: I made a mistake and I didn't Floyer realized what

1754
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 25: I was taking. That's the amateur hour, you know, Like

1755
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 25: Paul George has got to be better than that. So,

1756
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 25: you know, even if you give Paul George the benefit

1757
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 25: of doubt that he wasn't trying to cheat or do something,

1758
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:20,799
Speaker 25: I would give him an unfair advantage, it still faced

1759
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 25: palm embarrassing that he would be, you know, caught with

1760
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 25: taking a wrong substance. So he's got to be better.

1761
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 25: If I'm if I'm the Sixers front office player, I'm

1762
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 25: really really ticked off at him because he let his

1763
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,560
Speaker 25: team down. And I know, you know, he gave the

1764
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 25: apology publicly to the organization of players, but it's one

1765
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,200
Speaker 25: of those things like you got to be better than that,

1766
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 25: and there's zero excuses for it.

1767
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 2: I appreciate your candor. And Philly's just hanging on for

1768
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 2: dear life in that sixth slot in the East and

1769
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 2: they can able afford to lose them. In my opinion,

1770
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 2: Orlando's right on their back and yeah, and Charlotte's playing

1771
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 2: out of their mind. You got Miami, et cetera, which

1772
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 2: leads sort of segue, which is a good segue to

1773
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm noticing a hell of a pennant race as it

1774
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 2: were in the Western Conference. The Lakers have had a

1775
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 2: good productive road trip. They got a chance to go

1776
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 2: four to one on this road trip, but they're hanging

1777
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 2: on for dear life in the sixth slot as well.

1778
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 2: What do you make in this Lakers team? If I

1779
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 2: handicap this going forward, I don't think they can be

1780
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 2: any better than in the sixth slot for the playoffs?

1781
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 2: Am I wrong?

1782
01:30:28,280 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 25: I think they're up and down the rest of the season. Mathematically,

1783
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 25: they could get to four. You know, they're only a

1784
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 25: game behind the Houston Rockets for fourth place. They're only

1785
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 25: half a game behind Minnesota for fifth. But to your point,

1786
01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 25: they could also go the other way around. They're tied

1787
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:47,479
Speaker 25: with Phoenix. You know, I guess they only have the

1788
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 25: head to head, but that could they could very well

1789
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,680
Speaker 25: slip out of the playoffs and even the play in

1790
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 25: But if I had a guess, regardless of whether they

1791
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 25: make a move in the trade deadline or not, and

1792
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,839
Speaker 25: I think if they've make a move, it's only marginal.

1793
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 25: Even with Luston Reeves coming back. I think their ceiling

1794
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 25: is they get to the playoffs and they lose in

1795
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,640
Speaker 25: the second round. We've seen that Luka Doncic is a

1796
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:14,519
Speaker 25: very special player, and he's a great offensive player. The

1797
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 25: chemistry with him and Lebron James are fine. They can

1798
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 25: coexist well, and Lebron's putting respectable numbers. But you know,

1799
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,160
Speaker 25: they're not an elite defensive team, and so I think

1800
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:27,120
Speaker 25: what you're going to see is that every game is

1801
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:29,680
Speaker 25: going to be unpredictable and they're always going to have

1802
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 25: a chance to win, but they're also going to have

1803
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 25: an equally good chance to lose. So this is kind

1804
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 25: of that classic, you know, second third tier type of

1805
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 25: team that they could be a dangerous down the playoffs,

1806
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:46,759
Speaker 25: but they could also be dangerously eliminated because they also

1807
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:48,639
Speaker 25: have a lot of flaws. And that's not to mention

1808
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:52,400
Speaker 25: the durability concerns to Lebron because of where he's at

1809
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 25: in his career forty one years old, twenty third season.

1810
01:31:56,680 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 2: So I think if they are a play in team,

1811
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 2: they could win a playoff round. I'm not so sure

1812
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 2: i'd take him over Phoenix for the Clippers. Maybe Portland goals.

1813
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 2: I don't know's we're jumping ahead, but if the season

1814
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 2: end of the day, they'd have Denver and we all

1815
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 2: know how that good that's gonna go. So I just

1816
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 2: don't think we'll see it's gonna be fun to watch.

1817
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what else is it to be fun

1818
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 2: to watch? Mark? Later on? Today we are in Sunday.

1819
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 2: Now they will vote as to whether or not Lebron

1820
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:27,560
Speaker 2: will be reserve All Star. I believe he will be

1821
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:30,800
Speaker 2: voted in, just like he was last year where he

1822
01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:32,600
Speaker 2: didn't show up until the day of the game and

1823
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 2: let nobody know and that costs Norman Poll an All

1824
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 2: Star slot. Do you think he gets voted in and

1825
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 2: will he want to show up this year?

1826
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1827
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 25: I think he will get voted in because coaches they

1828
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:48,960
Speaker 25: tend to reward players that have had a good track record,

1829
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 25: you know, out of respect for their longevity and a

1830
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 25: possible farewell. There were a few times Tim Duncan was

1831
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 25: voted in as a reserve and he wasn't put in

1832
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 25: All Star respectable numbers, but he was in. I think

1833
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 25: Lebron will get voted in. When you're looking at the

1834
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:07,560
Speaker 25: rest of the field, there's certainly other All Stars statistically

1835
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 25: that are more deserving, but it's not completely lopside. Even

1836
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 25: when you account for Lebron's poor three point shooting and

1837
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:19,360
Speaker 25: poor defense, he's still putting up low twenties and points

1838
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 25: I think just below seven assists, so it's respectable. But

1839
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 25: to your point, because he's getting this honor, he's got

1840
01:33:27,960 --> 01:33:31,479
Speaker 25: to show up. Yes, that there's an unforeseen injury, I

1841
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 25: get it, but he can't pull what he did last year,

1842
01:33:34,800 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 25: or he waited until the very last minute, even so

1843
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,879
Speaker 25: much that he announced the news in a pregame press conference.

1844
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,560
Speaker 25: They see out of the game. That's how last minute was.

1845
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 25: He can't pull that kind of shenanigans because of what

1846
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:51,560
Speaker 25: you said. It deprives the league from having time to

1847
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 25: name an alternate. And there's a lot of deserving All Stars.

1848
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,800
Speaker 25: So I'm on record. I wrote a column about this

1849
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:01,040
Speaker 25: week for Athlon Sports. He deserves all I don't have

1850
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,400
Speaker 25: a problem with him getting the All Star Game, but

1851
01:34:03,479 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 25: he has to. He has to embrace everything and comes

1852
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 25: along with it, be an All Star ambassador, showing up

1853
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 25: to the events, showing up to the game, actually caring

1854
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:15,719
Speaker 25: about it, because it sends the message for two things.

1855
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 25: One it's an All Star game. Everyone else be competitive,

1856
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 25: put on a show. But two, it's in his backyard.

1857
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 25: I know it's an into it tome the home of

1858
01:34:25,439 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 25: the Clippers, but still, La he's got to be an

1859
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 25: ambassador and fully embrace this, and if he doesn't, very inexcusable.

1860
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:36,479
Speaker 2: So we'll have to wait and see last thing. Mark.

1861
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 2: On Monday, the w NBA and the Players Association are

1862
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 2: going to hold high stakes meeting in New York. Will

1863
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 2: be the first time then face to face in a while.

1864
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,000
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna boy with all the details what you

1865
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,320
Speaker 2: already know, but I think the primary sticking point involves

1866
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:55,280
Speaker 2: revenue sharing. The players won thirty percent of the gross

1867
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:58,640
Speaker 2: which I think is silly, and a salary cape of

1868
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 2: over ten million. I think the league is willing to

1869
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 2: offer seventy percent of the net profits. With some ceilings

1870
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,719
Speaker 2: they seem to be far apart. Now we're ninety days

1871
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 2: from the start of the schedule and a lot of

1872
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 2: things have to happen. Do you think they're going to

1873
01:35:12,920 --> 01:35:14,479
Speaker 2: get something solved Monday?

1874
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:19,040
Speaker 25: I actually think that they will know. Maybe they still

1875
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 25: have to you know Crosst's dot I, but I think

1876
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,639
Speaker 25: that they're going to agree to a framework. I think

1877
01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:28,600
Speaker 25: it's telling that the league had already announced what the

1878
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 25: twenty twenty sixth schedule looks like. The WNBA draft is

1879
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 25: April thirteenth. I think that even though the players are

1880
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:39,760
Speaker 25: making certain demands here, they know in this attention economy

1881
01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 25: that they don't want to disrupt the momentum of them

1882
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 25: finally gain a lot of eyeballs, much more than before

1883
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 25: with the women's game, both in the w and in

1884
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,640
Speaker 25: college basketball. So I think they actually do agree to

1885
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 25: a framework of a deal. And I think the reason

1886
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 25: why not just the calendar, but the fact that they're

1887
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:01,560
Speaker 25: meeting in person. They're having a lot of their committee

1888
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 25: members like Nafisia Collier and Kelsey Plum and Neka I'll

1889
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 25: go my week all meeting here and then because it's

1890
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 25: in person, I think that, uh, you know, this lends

1891
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 25: a seriousness to it, that that are not going to

1892
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 25: mess around all.

1893
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 2: Right, fair enough and someone will be able to touch

1894
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:23,720
Speaker 2: on next week. Is this is the thing.

1895
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 16: If I'm wrong all up to it, well.

1896
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 2: There's no way. Yeah, there's no real way to know. Uh,

1897
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 2: someone's going to have to cave here. Uh. And I

1898
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:35,599
Speaker 2: don't think the players have any levers like they think

1899
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 2: they do, so it would be within their their best

1900
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 2: interest to do that. But look, stranger things have happened.

1901
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 2: But I will say this, if you think about it.

1902
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 2: We talk about on the radio football, which is king

1903
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:51,920
Speaker 2: basketball and at all levels, and we do talk baseball

1904
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 2: when it's appropriate, but we don't talk about hockey. We

1905
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 2: talked more NBA than hockey because they are in the news. Okay,

1906
01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 2: they are in the news, and we have to play

1907
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 2: they hit. So this is something people are watching, even

1908
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 2: if they just have a casual interest. So it's part

1909
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 2: of the mix right now until they actually get on

1910
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:08,559
Speaker 2: the floor and start their season with a new CBA.

1911
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 2: It's something to watch. Mark, good stuff is always, Bud.

1912
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 25: I appreciate you as always.

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Speaker 2: Thanks. It's Mark Medena, our Fox Sports Radio NBA guru.

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Speaker 2: Clearly you see he's got his finger on the pulse

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Speaker 2: and he writes for essentially sports. No matter what topic

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Speaker 2: you put forth, he is all over it. By the way,

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Speaker 2: have you ever wiped with a dry piece of toilet

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Speaker 2: paper and wondered, is this as good as it gets?

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Speaker 2: It's not switched to life changing what extra flushable dude wipes?

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Speaker 2: and the iHeartRadio app. Coming up, I have three very

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Speaker 2: good tweets that came in you won, the five, Preller

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Speaker 2: Forever and Brockline. I want to read those for the folks,

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Speaker 2: and we'll get to that coming up in a second.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Frattle Comedy live from the Las Vegas Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio Studios. Keeping locking and listening to the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Frattle Show.

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Speaker 2: You're back on The Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: By the way, have you ever wiped with a piece

1943
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Speaker 2: of dry toilet paper and wondered? Is this as good

1944
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Speaker 2: as it gets? It's not switched to life changing. We

1945
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Speaker 2: extra large flushable dude wipes because what a just cleans better?

1946
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Speaker 2: Wipes best clean pants down. And Also, if you missed

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Speaker 2: The Bernie Frattle Show wherever you get your podcasts. You'll

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Speaker 2: find tonight's full show posted right after we get off

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Speaker 2: the air. We had a tremendous uh midnight hours, as

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Speaker 2: we always do. Hugh on the Five checked in after.

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Speaker 2: In addition to his call, he said, number one the

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Speaker 2: first topic on the call, you know, on whether or

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Speaker 2: not Charles Bettiaco and Amari Bailey should return to college.

1960
01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 2: He says it's as if the more unwieldy and kooky

1961
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Speaker 2: the NCAA gets. The more popular it becomes, the data

1962
01:39:57,880 --> 01:40:01,880
Speaker 2: bears that out advertising dollars are going crazy. The stands

1963
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 2: are packed, stadiums are packed, arenas are packed. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 2: the TV ratings are through the roof. We talked about

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Speaker 2: a couple weeks ago after the college football playoff, so

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Speaker 2: number two. I was watching Lakers Celtics regular season replays

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Speaker 2: from nineteen eighty seven before tuning in the night crazy synchronousity. Yes,

1968
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Speaker 2: basketball is a team game. I remember Chick hern once

1969
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Speaker 2: asked who would win a game at one on one,

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Speaker 2: Magic Johnson or Michael Jordan, and turn goes. Don't ask

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Speaker 2: me dumb questions. Basketball is a team game. It was

1972
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Speaker 2: a much better team game back then. I don't care

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Speaker 2: what anybody says. You weren't there watching it. You weren't there.

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Speaker 2: If you think different, some guy who may run faster

1975
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Speaker 2: and jump higher now they did then too. You just

1976
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 2: weren't there. Isaiah Thomas once told me to my face.

1977
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 2: He said, point guard's the most important position in sports

1978
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:56,640
Speaker 2: because one man with the ball in his hands can

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Speaker 2: dictate the movements of nine other people. You don't really

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Speaker 2: see that as much today, do you? And then number three,

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Speaker 2: the topic whether or not Tom Brady might get snubbed

1982
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Speaker 2: first ballot Hall of Fame. He said, build a hall

1983
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Speaker 2: of characters. You know, I know it will probably never happen.

1984
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 2: I'm open to It's a museum, like people said, it's

1985
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Speaker 2: chronicling the accomplishments of players over the years. It was

1986
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Speaker 2: confined to good guys, probably like three guys in the

1987
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. There was a lot of louts, a

1988
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Speaker 2: lot of not great people who had success on the field.

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Speaker 2: But look, I know that a lot of writers believe

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Speaker 2: they are the paragon of integrity. And if you disagree

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Speaker 2: with them. Remember my opening commentary about outrage. What are

1992
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Speaker 2: the things that invokes outrage in our society, especially in sports,

1993
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Speaker 2: is if you disagree with certain people, they can't handle it.

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Speaker 2: They can't handle it. Brock Klein, he put no dot

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Speaker 2: in my mind. Tom Brady will be a first ballot

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Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. He made Belichick what he is. He

1997
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Speaker 2: wouldn't have won any of those rings without Brady. Fair,

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Speaker 2: he said, lebron can plain in the eighties and nineties,

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Speaker 2: but it's all time drama era would not work in this,

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Speaker 2: but he could do it. Yeah, and I think somehow

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01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 2: the topic got conflated as to whether or not Lebron

2002
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 2: could play there my he where I threw a flag

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Speaker 2: was Lebron for some reason again had to get on

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Speaker 2: a soapbox, and he's so and artful when he does this.

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Speaker 2: He went on to say, you know, much tougher to

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Speaker 2: play eighty two games in the twenty twenties versus the eighties.

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Speaker 2: How the hell would you know? He implied that the

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01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 2: game was slower, and I didn't want to go down

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Speaker 2: that road. By the way, a preller forever. This is

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Speaker 2: kind of important because we see you. You're a great guy.

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Speaker 2: Can't get to everyone all their points. Okay, we appreciate

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Speaker 2: all the time we have appreciate your kind of give

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Speaker 2: us the talk. We're talking about the minute hour callers.

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Speaker 2: Maybe she would limit us to just three topics. Well,

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Speaker 2: here's where he brings up a good point. It always

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Speaker 2: us three topics, but I try to give callers a

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Speaker 2: lot of latitude, so sometimes it can morph into what

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Speaker 2: feels like four or five because people carry out variations

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Speaker 2: on a theme. So maybe in the starting next week,

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Speaker 2: I'll just have two tough topics, and you know, we

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Speaker 2: can expand on them, but I always want to make

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Speaker 2: sure I always feel bad when we run up against

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Speaker 2: the clock. We're trying to synchronize this show with six

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Speaker 2: hundred affiliates around the country and people who spend a

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Speaker 2: lot of time advertising and money advertising, and we're really

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Speaker 2: serving a lot of masters here. But the callers are

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Speaker 2: very important. They're the one to make that hour. So

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Speaker 2: maybe we shift gears on that today. What use is

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Speaker 2: important the knowledge we get in this upcoming segment, And yes,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna want to listen, because fantasy football is big business.

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Speaker 2: Many are you in dynasty leagues as well? So pay attention.

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Speaker 2: It's time for Fantasy Files.

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Speaker 8: Fantasy Files with Brandon Deutsch, your go to fantasy football segment.

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Speaker 10: Are you got one going?

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Speaker 5: When?

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Speaker 16: What is up?

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Speaker 1: Everybody?

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Speaker 26: It is Brandon Deutsch here on the Bernie Fratto Show

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Speaker 26: talking fantasy football and also some NFL draft stuff, because

2040
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 26: why does that matter if you're in dynasty leagues. It

2041
01:43:57,479 --> 01:43:59,680
Speaker 26: was a big weekend at the Senior Bowl in the

2042
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 26: Shrine Bowl last week for NFL draft prospects and guys

2043
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 26: that might be on your fantasy team next season, including

2044
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 26: a high riser that I think people will need to

2045
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 26: watch at the Draft Combine in a few weeks and

2046
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Speaker 26: that's going to be Kaylen Black from Indiana. And now

2047
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 26: a lot of people talk about Hemby and he's fantastic

2048
01:44:16,439 --> 01:44:20,080
Speaker 26: from Indiana. But this guy Black showed out at Senior

2049
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Speaker 26: Bowl practice. This was a guy that people seem to

2050
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Speaker 26: think Daniel Jeremiah, who's one of the he's the NFL's

2051
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:30,760
Speaker 26: guy for NFL Draft content, he thinks that Black's going

2052
01:44:30,800 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 26: to be one of the highest risers in the draft,

2053
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 26: and I'm with it. I think this could be a

2054
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 26: Kyle monten guy guy. Like I said, Well, that was

2055
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:41,200
Speaker 26: funny when I said that Kyle Montuen guy type of dude,

2056
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Speaker 26: because it sounds weird when.

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Speaker 1: You say Kyle montu guy guy.

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Speaker 26: But Kaylen Black's definitely a guy that is going to

2059
01:44:48,360 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 26: soar up the up the draft boards. And another guy

2060
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 26: that I think is going to soar up the draft

2061
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 26: boards that could end up on your fantasy team next season,

2062
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:58,960
Speaker 26: especially in dynasty, watch out for this guy. Malachi Fields

2063
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 26: from Notre Dame six foot four two and twenty pounds,

2064
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 26: so he fits the vertical threat build. Had an insane catch,

2065
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Speaker 26: possibly the best catch all week at Senior Bowl practice.

2066
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:11,600
Speaker 26: I forgot who was thrown on the football might have

2067
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:13,800
Speaker 26: been Garrett Asmyer from Lsuho, by the way, looked really

2068
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 26: good and we'll get into him in a second. He

2069
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:17,599
Speaker 26: was injured all year at LSU when they were playing

2070
01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 26: under Brian Kelly. There was a lot of scrutiny. Players

2071
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 26: didn't like Brian Kelly. It's a whole separate conversation. But

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Speaker 26: Malachi Fields, my goodness. Remember Notre Dame's offense, even with

2073
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 26: a better quarterback and CJ. Carr this year, they didn't

2074
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 26: throw the ball as much as I think we expect

2075
01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 26: them to. Granted, they had the best running back in

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Speaker 26: the nation, who we talked about last week on this segment,

2077
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Speaker 26: who will obviously be on your guys' fantasy teams next

2078
01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 26: year if you're lucky and Jeremiah Love Now, obviously it

2079
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:45,640
Speaker 26: depends where he goes, but this is a guy that

2080
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Speaker 26: I think can be very, very very good this upcoming season.

2081
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Speaker 26: Malachi Field a guy to watch. Another guy that I

2082
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Speaker 26: really really like is Reggie Virgil. Reggie Virgil six Texas

2083
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:02,920
Speaker 26: Tech wide receiver. Again, another team that didn't have a

2084
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Speaker 26: good quarterback, so it was really really tough for them

2085
01:46:07,840 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 26: to show this guy off all year, but I love

2086
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 26: his sigh sixty one eighty eight. Obviously not the strongest

2087
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 26: guy in the world, but fifteen touchdown catches in the

2088
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 26: past two seasons definitely got to look a Now, let's

2089
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:23,799
Speaker 26: go to the quarterbacks, right, because people undervalue the quarterback position.

2090
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:27,400
Speaker 26: I feel like in fantasy football, I really like what

2091
01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 26: Garrett and Osmeyer did this week. And I know this

2092
01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:32,040
Speaker 26: is a week quarterback draft and people just look at

2093
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 26: Mendoza and say, hey, it's a one quarterback draft, and

2094
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 26: I get it. Look for the most part, it is

2095
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:41,040
Speaker 26: don't count out Garrett Usmyer from jumping up the boards.

2096
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 26: This is a guy who was a projected one to

2097
01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 26: one by Todd McShay and other draft analysts before the season.

2098
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:48,599
Speaker 26: We know that goes Kate Klebnick was also up there

2099
01:46:48,640 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 26: toward the top and it just didn't work out. He

2100
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:54,439
Speaker 26: was injured. Brian Kelly, you know it was frustrated. They

2101
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:56,879
Speaker 26: were losing a lot of games. The offense looked horrible.

2102
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Speaker 2: This is a guy.

2103
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 26: Don't be shocked if he sneaks his way into round

2104
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 26: two and all of a sudden he's getting spots starts

2105
01:47:03,640 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 26: on week sixteen a Fantasy football next year in the

2106
01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 26: championship and you have to play him and he's playing

2107
01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 26: for the Dolphins or something. Same thing with Carson Beck.

2108
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 26: These are two guys that I think are NFL ready.

2109
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 26: They played a lot of football and I think these

2110
01:47:15,840 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 26: guys can play well.

2111
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Speaker 2: Right away in the NFL.

2112
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Speaker 26: So that's Another guy that was at Senior Ball that

2113
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:25,120
Speaker 26: did very well was Garrett Ausemeyer. Another guy was Cole Peyton.

2114
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Speaker 26: You see this quarterback. This quarterback is fast and if

2115
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:31,200
Speaker 26: he ever gets snaps in the National Football League as

2116
01:47:31,200 --> 01:47:34,840
Speaker 26: a rookie, he will be fantasy relevant. Because even Justin

2117
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 26: Fields was incredible in fantasy this season with the Jets.

2118
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Speaker 26: Why because he can use his legs. Lamar Jackson, Why

2119
01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,599
Speaker 26: is he so coveted in fantasy football every year? Why

2120
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:48,000
Speaker 26: because he can use his legs. This kid, Cole Payton

2121
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:52,680
Speaker 26: is no joke. He won Senior Bowl MVP, played fantastic,

2122
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:56,599
Speaker 26: showed off his legs. Another FCS quarterback. I hope people

2123
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 26: get a little scared. Carson Wentz did well, but then

2124
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 26: you got Trey Lance North Dakota State products. It really

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Speaker 26: it's it's it's it's tough to evaluate because they come

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Speaker 26: from a smaller conference, right, but Cole Payton's definitely a

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01:48:10,640 --> 01:48:12,760
Speaker 26: guy to look at. And finally some guys that weren't

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Speaker 26: at the Senior Bowl. The last thing watch out for

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01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 26: Zachariah Branch. I know we had brought him up a

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01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:19,240
Speaker 26: little bit last week from Georgia, but he went to

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01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:21,960
Speaker 26: USC didn't get a lot of playing time. Was, you know,

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01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:25,080
Speaker 26: behind Makhai Lemon, was behind these other guys. I really

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01:48:25,120 --> 01:48:28,519
Speaker 26: think Zachariah Branch is going to rise up all of

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Speaker 26: the draft boards and be fantasy relevant in year one. Obviously,

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01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:35,080
Speaker 26: it's dependent on where he goes where he gets drafted.

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01:48:35,560 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 26: A fast guy that could get touchdowns in punt returning,

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Speaker 26: kickoff returning, depending what your scoring system is. So that's

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Speaker 26: Fantasy Files today. Thank you so much for listening. Super

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Speaker 26: Bowl week ahead. I know you guys everybody's going to

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Speaker 26: be looking forward to that. But Bernie back to you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much. And by the way, pay attention to

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01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:56,479
Speaker 2: what he's talking about here. If you don't believe rookies

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01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 2: can have an impact, let's just look at what happened

2144
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:03,480
Speaker 2: last year Ashton genty Let. He led all non quarterback

2145
01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:07,280
Speaker 2: rookies in total fantasy points, ran for over twelve hundred

2146
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 2: yards six touchdowns. Jackson Dart look.

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01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:10,400
Speaker 15: What he did.

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Speaker 2: He was a high end QB one. He was averaging

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01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:17,599
Speaker 2: twenty point one points per game. Okay in fantasy football.

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01:49:17,640 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 2: Teed McMillan, wide receiver out of Carolina, caught seventy balls

2151
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 2: for one thousand yard seven touchdowns. He's a wide receiver.

2152
01:49:25,080 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 2: One old rookie, big time high volume player. Tyler Warren,

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01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:31,679
Speaker 2: Come on, you already know about him the Colts seventy

2154
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 2: six receptions. Forget it, he's your tight end.

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01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 9: One.

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01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:36,960
Speaker 2: Tyler Shook. He came on late in the air. People

2157
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:38,960
Speaker 2: picked him up on the waiver wire. But if you

2158
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:42,280
Speaker 2: paid attention those last six weeks, he averaged twenty points

2159
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 2: a game. Trevon Henderson, Colston Lovelin, you figured it out.

2160
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 2: I could mention a bunch of other names too, or

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01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:52,439
Speaker 2: guys that came on, but those were like the top

2162
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 2: fantasy foot I just named eight nine guys. Fighting those

2163
01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:59,320
Speaker 2: guys could be the difference between you winning your fantasy

2164
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:03,720
Speaker 2: league and being an ULSO ran. So that's why we

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Speaker 2: do this. We'll continue to do it. This is big

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01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:08,240
Speaker 2: time business. You want to get the hardware. You want

2167
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 2: to make the money. It starts now. They say hockey

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01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 2: players are built this summer, Well maybe fantasy teams are

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01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 2: the same as well. Coming up, we got a little

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Speaker 2: football game a week from today. The football craziness is

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01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 2: going to start. Money at Radio Row, I want to

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01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 2: run a couple of things by you that I don't

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01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 2: know if you want to call them X factors, but

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01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 2: I certainly want to call them things to things you

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01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:34,600
Speaker 2: might not have thought about, that you might want to

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01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:37,680
Speaker 2: think about that will have something to do with this

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Speaker 2: game next week? Who decide the game? I'm Bernie Frattle,

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Speaker 2: coming to you live from lave Vegas, Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Fraddles Show.

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01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,919
Speaker 2: How about back on the Bernie Fraddle Show Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio next week. It will be an absolute cornercopeia, uh,

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01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:03,360
Speaker 2: drinking through a fire hose about all things super Bowl.

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01:51:04,920 --> 01:51:09,439
Speaker 2: But there are things that catch my eye early on

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01:51:09,920 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 2: that are worth touching upon, worth throwing out there. For instance,

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Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by the two coaches in this game. Right

2186
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:26,280
Speaker 2: how much his coaching experience is going to matter in

2187
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. And let's not forget Mike Vrabel. He's

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01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 2: not only the head coach in the Super Bowl now,

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01:51:33,120 --> 01:51:36,479
Speaker 2: he played in four Super Bowls. He's won three Super

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01:51:36,520 --> 01:51:41,560
Speaker 2: Bowls as a player. Josh McDaniels not much of a

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01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:45,519
Speaker 2: head coach, but he's been on the sideline eight times

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01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 2: as an offensive coordinator during the Super Bowl and with

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Speaker 2: six and two in Super Bowls. On the other side,

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Speaker 2: I think the world of Mike McDonald and Klint Kobiac.

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01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 2: Between the two of them, they've been to one Super Bowl.

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01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:03,760
Speaker 2: Kubiak was with the forty nine ers three years ago.

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Speaker 2: How much is that going to matter? It's something worth

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01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 2: talking about now. You never know when a special teams

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01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:16,280
Speaker 2: play is going to decide a game. Just ask the Rams.

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01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 2: And I know they keep changing the kickoff rules and

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Speaker 2: all that. It's stupid. I hate this kickoff on the

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Speaker 2: way it looks.

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Speaker 23: You know.

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Speaker 2: Look, there was only three teams who actually scored on

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Speaker 2: both a kickoff and punt return this season. Both hard

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Speaker 2: to believe, but the Jets were one of them. They

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01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:39,720
Speaker 2: didn't get an interception all year. But it's scoring on

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Speaker 2: both a kickoff and a punt return. Now you know

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Speaker 2: how good Rashid Shaheed is. He has three of those

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01:52:48,760 --> 01:52:51,919
Speaker 2: this year, one on a punt return, one on a kickoff.

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01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:56,880
Speaker 2: New England Marcus Jones He's run back two punts and

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01:52:57,000 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 2: Antonio Gibson has run back a kickoff. Where am I

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01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:03,920
Speaker 2: going with this? Of the three teams that actually scored

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Speaker 2: on both kickoff and punt returns this season, well, the

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01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 2: Patriots and Seahawks were the other two teams that did

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01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:15,280
Speaker 2: it beside the Jets. Might the game be turned on

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01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 2: a special teams play like a kickoff or eight punt return,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I will tell you this one thing

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01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:26,559
Speaker 2: I've always watched and why Joe Montana was so special

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01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 2: in Super Bowls, And I've talked about this in judging

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01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and analyzing quarterbacks. As we get close to the draft,

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01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 2: I'll give my annual speech and why it's so risky

2223
01:53:35,400 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 2: to take a quarterback in the first round of what

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01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 2: Scott's look forward and all that. But I know this.

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01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:43,960
Speaker 2: You define a quarterback by three things. Third down they

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01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 2: don't pay it a punt, they pay to move the chains,

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01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 2: the red zone, and the fourth quarter. And perhaps the

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01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 2: red zone is the most important of those three. Why

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01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 2: because when you get when you get inside the twenty

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01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:01,680
Speaker 2: yard line. Do you want touchdowns not field goals? If

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01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:07,280
Speaker 2: you can. New England was seventeenth in the NFL inside

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01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:12,640
Speaker 2: the twenty yard line, Seattle was twenty first. But on

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01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 2: the other side of the coin, defensively, in the red zone,

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01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 2: Seattle was very tough fifth in the league. If you

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Speaker 2: went in the red zone against Seattle, you only scored

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01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:28,040
Speaker 2: touchdowns half the time. Meanwhile, New England, as strong as

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01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 2: their run defense is, they allowed touchdowns on almost seventy

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01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 2: percent of the opponents. And the you know, when they

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01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 2: got to the red zone that ranks thirtieth. Might that

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Speaker 2: come into play my coaching come into play by a

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Speaker 2: kickoff for field or a punt return coming to play?

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01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:48,640
Speaker 2: Might the red zone come into play?

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Speaker 21: Now?

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Speaker 2: I mentioned New England's defense run defense, and it is

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Speaker 2: the real deal. Seattle does not have Matt Charbonney, but

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01:54:57,080 --> 01:55:00,960
Speaker 2: they do have Kenneth Walker, who looks abstutely possessed. This

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01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:03,960
Speaker 2: is important. New England has a very tough run defense.

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01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:06,920
Speaker 2: Seattle runs the ball about half the time. The only

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Speaker 2: teams that ran more in Seattle were Baltimore and Buffalo.

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Speaker 14: So.

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Speaker 2: Why would they change? It's worked, But it's all about

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01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 2: moving your man. It's all about blocking, and the Patriots

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01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 2: are not easy to block. New England was like a

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01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:26,760
Speaker 2: you know, Pittsburgh had the steel curtain. New England's like

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Speaker 2: a big, giant brick wall. They were tremendous in stopping

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Speaker 2: the run. They were tremendous in preventing explosive runs. And

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Speaker 2: they were six in runs rushing yards per game and

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01:55:39,400 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 2: what they allowed. I mean. So the truth of the

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01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 2: matter is the Patriots and when you watch them, they

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Speaker 2: are able to do this without putting extra guys in

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Speaker 2: the box. They don't stack the box. Now against Kenneth Walker,

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01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 2: the Patriots are facing the guy that he weighs about

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01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 2: two twenty and he's shifted, he's got speed, he's got it,

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01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:02,120
Speaker 2: he's got the whole package. In the regular season, Walker

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01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:04,720
Speaker 2: managed about four and a half yards per carry over

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Speaker 2: one thousand yards. But he can also catch the ball

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01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 2: the backfield. He has, you know, Clint Kubiak's trust to

2268
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:15,600
Speaker 2: use him in different modalities. So one of the key

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01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:19,240
Speaker 2: matchups to this game will be New England's run defense,

2270
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:24,600
Speaker 2: which is very good against Kenneth Walker, and Seattle's rushing defense,

2271
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:27,560
Speaker 2: which is very good. Let's flip on the other side

2272
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:30,240
Speaker 2: of the coin. This one may be more problematic for

2273
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 2: New England their offensive line against Seattle and their ability

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01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 2: to get after it. If there's been one issue, if

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01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 2: you look at the Seahawks, I really don't see any weakness.

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01:56:41,360 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 2: I just can't see when that John's at me. Maybe

2277
01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:46,000
Speaker 2: somebody can remind me of one. But if there's one,

2278
01:56:46,480 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 2: if we're going to nitpick, not cherry pick, if there's

2279
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:52,600
Speaker 2: been one issue for the Patriots that's plagued them the

2280
01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:56,880
Speaker 2: entire year, Drake May was sacked forty seven times. That's

2281
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,320
Speaker 2: more than anybody in the league. Well, unless you're talking

2282
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 2: about cam Ordered, Gino Smith or Justin Herbert. We know

2283
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 2: about the you know the Chargers. Chargers could win a

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01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:08,960
Speaker 2: playoff game. They were embarrassed and I think between them

2285
01:57:09,040 --> 01:57:12,920
Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans and Geno Smith and the Raiders what

2286
01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 2: they won between them what five games? Six games? So

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01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:20,080
Speaker 2: this is not good. This is almost used the word

2288
01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 2: rarefy here. That would make no sense. This is not

2289
01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 2: a good position to be in. The Patriots are could

2290
01:57:25,640 --> 01:57:28,400
Speaker 2: have to clean that up. They allowed a pressure rate

2291
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 2: of about forty percent in the sack rate of almost

2292
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:34,120
Speaker 2: nine percent, that's in the bottom five of the league.

2293
01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:36,480
Speaker 2: And you also got a pair of rookies and left

2294
01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:40,960
Speaker 2: tackle Will Campbell and Jared Wilson. Campbell had major issues

2295
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:44,320
Speaker 2: against the Texans and he had major issues against the Broncos.

2296
01:57:44,400 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 2: I thought the Broncos might win last week. I took

2297
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:48,720
Speaker 2: the four and a half points, and we'll never know

2298
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:50,600
Speaker 2: what would have happened if Sean Payton had gone up

2299
01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 2: two scores, which he should have done. Nothing against analytics,

2300
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 2: but they're a guideline, not an inflexible anchor. There's a

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01:57:57,160 --> 01:58:01,160
Speaker 2: risk reward situation, and I will tell you it's not

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01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 2: in retrospect. I thought it was a bad decision when

2303
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 2: they were doing them, what are you doing? And then

2304
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 2: it was an ill fated play call. That field goal

2305
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:11,000
Speaker 2: kicker makes that kick ninety one percent of the time,

2306
01:58:11,640 --> 01:58:14,160
Speaker 2: whereas they get the first down about forty percent of

2307
01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:17,480
Speaker 2: the time on fourth down, which one was the real analytic.

2308
01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:20,080
Speaker 2: You kick that ball and you go up ten to nothing.

2309
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 2: You could give up that turnover and still have been

2310
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:24,280
Speaker 2: up ten to seven, and you get the ball to

2311
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 2: start the second half. Water under the bridge. But the

2312
01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:31,360
Speaker 2: key is New England and their offensive line is going

2313
01:58:31,440 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 2: to have to step up. Because Seattle's defense has the

2314
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:39,000
Speaker 2: fourth best pressure rate. They blitz a lot, and when

2315
01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:42,520
Speaker 2: you got studs like DeMarcus Lawrence and Leonard Williams right

2316
01:58:42,600 --> 01:58:47,080
Speaker 2: on down the line, that is going to be an issue.

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01:58:48,360 --> 01:58:50,560
Speaker 2: Then you got Jackson Smith and Jig. But versus the

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01:58:50,640 --> 01:58:55,320
Speaker 2: Pats corners, how do you negotiate that they got good corners?

2319
01:58:55,400 --> 01:59:00,760
Speaker 2: Carlton Davis, Christi Gonzalez. No other Seattle receiver has done

2320
01:59:00,840 --> 01:59:04,400
Speaker 2: nearly as much as Smith and Jigma, So it'll be interesting,

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01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:07,080
Speaker 2: you know, taking a page out of Belichick's book, if

2322
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:08,800
Speaker 2: they take him out of the game and make them

2323
01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:11,120
Speaker 2: play left. And how you do that, I don't know,

2324
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 2: but I would say if you're Seattle's or you're New

2325
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:18,440
Speaker 2: eng Those pass defense, you should be focusing on putting

2326
01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 2: Smith and Gibba in a vice. Otherwise he's going to

2327
01:59:21,960 --> 01:59:25,640
Speaker 2: be a problem. Finally, the Patriots get after it well.

2328
01:59:26,360 --> 01:59:29,320
Speaker 2: They have heavy rushers as well. If New England can

2329
01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 2: generate a pass rush and cause Sam Darnald to speed up,

2330
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 2: get him off the spot before play develops, make him

2331
01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:40,520
Speaker 2: throw the ball before he wants to. This I believe

2332
01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:43,240
Speaker 2: is going to be go a long way and helping

2333
01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:46,320
Speaker 2: New England keep this game close, and I think it's

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Speaker 2: going to be close. But if you know, Sam Darnald

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01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:51,800
Speaker 2: has time to get his feet set. He's a lot

2336
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:54,760
Speaker 2: better than people give him credit for the Pats. The

2337
01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 2: money they spend on the offseason with their defensive tackles

2338
01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:01,360
Speaker 2: bringing guys over from the Eagles is really paid off. Okay,

2339
02:00:02,280 --> 02:00:05,600
Speaker 2: because Seattle, the interior of its offensive line is a

2340
02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:09,800
Speaker 2: little overmatched for New England to possibly build to possibly

2341
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Speaker 2: take advantage of. But like I said, kickoff punt returns coaching.

2342
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Speaker 2: Who's going to do a better job in the red zone?

2343
02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:21,280
Speaker 2: And look, Drake Ma and Sam Darnalard invincible, so we'll

2344
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Speaker 2: see what happens. Coming up is Kurt Signetti, the greatest

2345
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Speaker 2: college coach of all time. We discussed the Bernie Frattle Show.

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2354
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2359
02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:09,879
Speaker 2: closely to what I'm about to say next, because selective

2360
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:14,120
Speaker 2: listening might skew the essence of what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 2: Kurtz Signetti. Google him, he wins, Google him, he backs

2362
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:27,920
Speaker 2: it up. He's a fast, successful and obviously what he's

2363
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Speaker 2: done in Indiana is far beyond unprecedented. And he didn't

2364
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Speaker 2: just win there, okay, He one of James Madison and

2365
02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:38,520
Speaker 2: wanted Elne has won everywhere, and he's making a lot

2366
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Speaker 2: of other coaches look bad who have more to work with.

2367
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Speaker 2: Be that as it may, is he the greatest college

2368
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Speaker 2: football coach of aall? Now see, I can't I can't

2369
02:01:48,560 --> 02:01:51,960
Speaker 2: say anything bad about Kurt Signetti period. Everything about the

2370
02:01:52,040 --> 02:01:58,400
Speaker 2: guy is a plus in my book. But if we're

2371
02:01:58,400 --> 02:02:00,960
Speaker 2: being honest, okay, he won a chance, did it and

2372
02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:04,480
Speaker 2: find Feddle going undefeated. Only team in seven gone sixty

2373
02:02:04,520 --> 02:02:08,600
Speaker 2: to zero. But right now I'd have him number six

2374
02:02:08,720 --> 02:02:13,000
Speaker 2: all time, and there's no disrespect. There's no disrespect. But

2375
02:02:13,120 --> 02:02:17,240
Speaker 2: listen to some of these other resumes that you know,

2376
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:20,200
Speaker 2: have just a little bit more meat on the bone

2377
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:25,840
Speaker 2: in terms of multiple accomplishments. To start with Kirby Smart

2378
02:02:25,880 --> 02:02:29,720
Speaker 2: at Georgia, hard to believe he's been there ten years already,

2379
02:02:30,640 --> 02:02:35,480
Speaker 2: but he's won two national championships, three SEC titles, won

2380
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:41,720
Speaker 2: one hundred and five games and lost nineteen. Okay, because

2381
02:02:41,800 --> 02:02:45,040
Speaker 2: Kurtzignetti has won national championship, I can't put him in

2382
02:02:45,080 --> 02:02:48,240
Speaker 2: front of a guy who has two. Okay, these are

2383
02:02:48,320 --> 02:02:53,080
Speaker 2: coaches now with multiple national championships. Kirby Smart is maybe

2384
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:56,840
Speaker 2: because of his age and where he is positioned to

2385
02:02:57,000 --> 02:03:00,200
Speaker 2: join Nick Saban as the only coach with more more

2386
02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:04,120
Speaker 2: than two. Okay, He's created the closest thing to what

2387
02:03:04,360 --> 02:03:07,080
Speaker 2: Nick Saban had at Alabama. It's going to be more

2388
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:12,320
Speaker 2: difficult now in the anil transfer portal age. But he

2389
02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:17,160
Speaker 2: you know, rattled off eighth straight top seven finishes, had

2390
02:03:17,200 --> 02:03:21,080
Speaker 2: consecutive national championships. The only thing keeping him slightly lower

2391
02:03:21,120 --> 02:03:23,560
Speaker 2: on the list of the top four is he had

2392
02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:28,080
Speaker 2: taken over a Georgia program which was already really top

2393
02:03:28,120 --> 02:03:31,600
Speaker 2: flight under Mark Richt. Okay, the other situations were bleaker.

2394
02:03:31,640 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 2: What I'm going to get to those in a minute.

2395
02:03:33,120 --> 02:03:36,400
Speaker 2: I'm including Indiana couldn't have been any bleaker. But in

2396
02:03:36,480 --> 02:03:39,760
Speaker 2: the next decade, though, would it be surprised you if

2397
02:03:40,240 --> 02:03:44,280
Speaker 2: Kirby Smart one a third? It wouldn't me. It wouldn't me.

2398
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:47,400
Speaker 2: I have to put Pete Carroll number four. Forget what

2399
02:03:47,560 --> 02:03:50,800
Speaker 2: happened this year with the Raiders. That was a clown show.

2400
02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:56,800
Speaker 2: Pete his first year in coaching in college was two

2401
02:03:56,840 --> 02:03:59,480
Speaker 2: thousand and one. He took over a USC team that

2402
02:03:59,600 --> 02:04:04,000
Speaker 2: was complete the moribund. But again, Pete Carroll won two

2403
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:09,560
Speaker 2: national championships, seven PAC twelve titles, ninety seven wins, nineteen losses,

2404
02:04:09,840 --> 02:04:13,400
Speaker 2: coached two Heisman Trophy winners. And the irony is Pete

2405
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:15,800
Speaker 2: Krroll was not even USC's first choice when he was hired.

2406
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:18,400
Speaker 2: He'd knocked around. He was head coach of the New

2407
02:04:18,400 --> 02:04:22,080
Speaker 2: England Patriots. Didn't work out well. New York Jets took

2408
02:04:22,120 --> 02:04:24,400
Speaker 2: a year off in two thousand after it got fired

2409
02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:31,880
Speaker 2: but he built a legitimate recruiting blockade around USC and

2410
02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:34,360
Speaker 2: he helped return the Trojans to national prominence. I mean,

2411
02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:37,000
Speaker 2: there was a time that best kids in Southern California

2412
02:04:37,560 --> 02:04:42,040
Speaker 2: didn't leave Southern California and they do now, but they

2413
02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:43,600
Speaker 2: didn't when Pete Carroll was there, and they didn't when

2414
02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:50,680
Speaker 2: John Robinson was there, and they didn't win. John McKay

2415
02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:54,360
Speaker 2: was there. But I digress. The key is is that

2416
02:04:55,280 --> 02:04:59,800
Speaker 2: in addition to producing the first Heisman winning teammates since

2417
02:04:59,840 --> 02:05:04,520
Speaker 2: our army in the forties. Although they make that claim,

2418
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:08,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's really true. I mean, back

2419
02:05:08,240 --> 02:05:10,360
Speaker 2: in seventy nine you had I believe the seventy eight

2420
02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:14,240
Speaker 2: Trojans or seventy nine Trojans had both Charles White and

2421
02:05:14,520 --> 02:05:17,640
Speaker 2: Marcus Allen. But I don't want to split hairs. The

2422
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:23,520
Speaker 2: point is Pete Carroll won two national championships, all the titles,

2423
02:05:23,560 --> 02:05:26,880
Speaker 2: one hundred games. He's number four on the list. You

2424
02:05:26,960 --> 02:05:29,480
Speaker 2: remember those great se teams, and by the way, they

2425
02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:33,680
Speaker 2: almost They lost that famous game and in January two

2426
02:05:33,720 --> 02:05:36,400
Speaker 2: thousand and six against Texas, and Vince Young became a whisker,

2427
02:05:37,160 --> 02:05:40,320
Speaker 2: a whisker from winning a third I'll always wonder what

2428
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:43,200
Speaker 2: would have happened if Reggie Bush had been show voting

2429
02:05:43,240 --> 02:05:44,600
Speaker 2: it and tried to pitch back to a guy. Even

2430
02:05:44,600 --> 02:05:48,400
Speaker 2: though it worked back earlier in the year, Texas seemed

2431
02:05:48,440 --> 02:05:52,000
Speaker 2: to take advantage of that. Bush was breaking away for

2432
02:05:52,080 --> 02:05:55,160
Speaker 2: a possible touchdown, got near the ten or fifteen, pitched

2433
02:05:55,200 --> 02:05:57,160
Speaker 2: it back to a guy. They fumbled. He wasn't expecting it.

2434
02:05:57,560 --> 02:06:00,640
Speaker 2: Texas took over. It kind of broke us. He's back,

2435
02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:02,960
Speaker 2: and they've they've never really been the same since. Okay,

2436
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:06,600
Speaker 2: they just haven't. This guy is weird and wacky and

2437
02:06:06,680 --> 02:06:08,760
Speaker 2: he's got a goofy look on his face. But give

2438
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:10,880
Speaker 2: him a hell of a lot of credit. He's been

2439
02:06:10,920 --> 02:06:15,000
Speaker 2: at Clemson since twenty oh nine. Dabble swiney. He's also

2440
02:06:15,120 --> 02:06:19,160
Speaker 2: won two national championships, an ACC school, nine a SEC titles.

2441
02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:22,600
Speaker 2: He isn't the only coach on the list with multiple championships,

2442
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:26,520
Speaker 2: but his rise is perhaps the most impressive. That's why

2443
02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:29,480
Speaker 2: I got him number three. He was a wide receivers

2444
02:06:29,560 --> 02:06:34,720
Speaker 2: coach on Tommy Bowden staff, and Swenny was probably the

2445
02:06:34,840 --> 02:06:39,000
Speaker 2: most inexperienced coach when he took over of anybody, and

2446
02:06:39,080 --> 02:06:42,680
Speaker 2: in the Major five power conferences at that time. But

2447
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:45,400
Speaker 2: all he did over the next all he has done

2448
02:06:45,560 --> 02:06:49,240
Speaker 2: in the fifteen years since joining Clemson was completely transformed

2449
02:06:49,280 --> 02:06:52,720
Speaker 2: Clemson back into a national powerhouse. They were in nineteen eighty,

2450
02:06:53,680 --> 02:06:58,680
Speaker 2: but Swenny took over thirty years after that, and before

2451
02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:02,760
Speaker 2: Swinny had taken over, well, Clemson had just won national title,

2452
02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:07,160
Speaker 2: six top ten finishes in what seventy years Swenny two

2453
02:07:07,240 --> 02:07:10,800
Speaker 2: national championships, nine A STC titles within it, you know,

2454
02:07:10,840 --> 02:07:14,160
Speaker 2: a decade and a half. Now, I don't know if

2455
02:07:14,200 --> 02:07:17,360
Speaker 2: Swenny will ever get Clemson back to the near the

2456
02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:20,120
Speaker 2: mountaintop where they have been. I don't like his chances.

2457
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:25,160
Speaker 2: But regardless, that's a that's those are high level problems, Okay,

2458
02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:30,080
Speaker 2: his legacy is secure. I think when they hired him

2459
02:07:30,160 --> 02:07:32,760
Speaker 2: it was a bold choice. It was a gutsy choice,

2460
02:07:33,320 --> 02:07:36,440
Speaker 2: and he turned a program around that wasn't necessarily considered.

2461
02:07:38,080 --> 02:07:41,000
Speaker 2: They weren't also ran, but they were not national contenders,

2462
02:07:41,040 --> 02:07:43,640
Speaker 2: and he stormed on to that stage. So you got

2463
02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:48,960
Speaker 2: Kirby Smart at five, Pete carrolln Ford, Davils Swinney at three. Well,

2464
02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:51,240
Speaker 2: again we have a you know, this may seem like

2465
02:07:51,280 --> 02:07:56,040
Speaker 2: a recurring theme. I got Urban Meyer two. Okay, because

2466
02:07:57,440 --> 02:07:59,440
Speaker 2: his first season in two thousand and five, and here's

2467
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:02,400
Speaker 2: a guy who had success at Bowling Green in Utah,

2468
02:08:03,200 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 2: but he goes to Florida and wins a couple of

2469
02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:09,280
Speaker 2: national championships and then he goes to Ohio State. He's

2470
02:08:09,280 --> 02:08:13,840
Speaker 2: also won SEC titles, fifty games, over five hundred. He

2471
02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:15,840
Speaker 2: was going to have a high spot on this list. Okay.

2472
02:08:15,880 --> 02:08:22,800
Speaker 2: The only debate surrounds which you know, if you if

2473
02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:29,160
Speaker 2: you evaluate Myers, if you evaluate Myers' tenure at Florida,

2474
02:08:30,040 --> 02:08:33,960
Speaker 2: in Utah and Ohio State, there's no question he's one

2475
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:36,680
Speaker 2: of the top ten hires of all time period. Okay,

2476
02:08:37,200 --> 02:08:40,280
Speaker 2: regardless of his record, but his five year tenure at

2477
02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:43,640
Speaker 2: Florida made him a Hall of Fame coach. He had

2478
02:08:43,680 --> 02:08:46,880
Speaker 2: three thirteen and one records in six evens. He had

2479
02:08:46,920 --> 02:08:52,600
Speaker 2: tim Tebow, which he molded. Meyer helped create. I think

2480
02:08:53,640 --> 02:08:56,640
Speaker 2: you talk about a recruiting machine that was the Kremlin

2481
02:08:56,720 --> 02:09:00,720
Speaker 2: La Crema elite recruiting machine. And I don't know how

2482
02:09:00,760 --> 02:09:04,560
Speaker 2: many players that he produced in Florida NFL players he

2483
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:07,560
Speaker 2: produced in Florida, but it was a lot, okay, And

2484
02:09:08,600 --> 02:09:12,400
Speaker 2: the only reason Urban Meyers probably at number one on

2485
02:09:12,520 --> 02:09:19,440
Speaker 2: this list because Nick Saban won six national titles. He

2486
02:09:19,560 --> 02:09:23,280
Speaker 2: took over his first season at at Alabama in twenty

2487
02:09:23,320 --> 02:09:26,800
Speaker 2: oh seven, and since then and he retired again. You

2488
02:09:26,840 --> 02:09:30,080
Speaker 2: know after the twenty twenty two to twenty three season,

2489
02:09:30,880 --> 02:09:32,720
Speaker 2: lots that Bowl game to Michigan and said he's not

2490
02:09:32,920 --> 02:09:41,120
Speaker 2: enough killing it on TV. I think, how could you

2491
02:09:41,240 --> 02:09:46,480
Speaker 2: give it to anybody else but Nick Saban? How he

2492
02:09:46,600 --> 02:09:50,000
Speaker 2: was so successful for so long people forgot the messy

2493
02:09:50,040 --> 02:09:54,280
Speaker 2: inherit it at Alabama. And when Saban got to Alabama

2494
02:09:54,520 --> 02:09:58,800
Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven, Bama had only won the

2495
02:09:58,920 --> 02:10:04,640
Speaker 2: SEC twice since nineteen eighty two. Since nineteen eighty two

2496
02:10:04,720 --> 02:10:08,440
Speaker 2: is when Paul Bear Bryant retired. So between the Bear

2497
02:10:09,040 --> 02:10:12,280
Speaker 2: and his retirement and Saban's hiring in twenty five years,

2498
02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:16,520
Speaker 2: Bama had two SEC titles and nothing else. Saban rattled

2499
02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:20,120
Speaker 2: off nine titles in seventeen seasons, six national titles at

2500
02:10:20,160 --> 02:10:21,720
Speaker 2: the school, by the way, he won one at LSU.

2501
02:10:22,040 --> 02:10:24,960
Speaker 2: In case you forget, the most by any coaching history,

2502
02:10:25,400 --> 02:10:27,920
Speaker 2: he defined the twenty first century in every way. He

2503
02:10:28,200 --> 02:10:31,840
Speaker 2: used his on field success to serve as sort of

2504
02:10:31,880 --> 02:10:35,200
Speaker 2: a primer in an example for every other program would

2505
02:10:35,240 --> 02:10:39,440
Speaker 2: want to copy it based on recruiting development, focusing on

2506
02:10:39,560 --> 02:10:42,480
Speaker 2: the process and not the scoreboard. Saban I think perhaps

2507
02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:45,520
Speaker 2: the single greatest fire in the history of college football period.

2508
02:10:46,040 --> 02:10:49,920
Speaker 2: By the way, this is a school that also hired

2509
02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:53,840
Speaker 2: Mike Price. Nothing against Mike Price, but he ain't gonna

2510
02:10:53,880 --> 02:10:59,880
Speaker 2: make the list. So Kurt Signetti in his legacy is

2511
02:11:00,520 --> 02:11:04,920
Speaker 2: already secure if you never did another thing. But I

2512
02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:08,720
Speaker 2: will say this, he's going to do more. But if

2513
02:11:09,120 --> 02:11:14,240
Speaker 2: you hear me out, Okay, Kirby Smart, Pete, Carroll, Davils, Swinney.

2514
02:11:14,240 --> 02:11:18,200
Speaker 2: They all got two national championships. Meyer's got three, Saban's

2515
02:11:18,280 --> 02:11:21,400
Speaker 2: got seven. Meyern Saban are two different schools. I think

2516
02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:24,960
Speaker 2: we have to give Kurt Signetti a little time for

2517
02:11:25,080 --> 02:11:29,440
Speaker 2: this to marinate, not undermining the fact that he had

2518
02:11:29,480 --> 02:11:33,120
Speaker 2: a historic twenty twenty five season. Indiana was sixteen to zero,

2519
02:11:33,400 --> 02:11:36,200
Speaker 2: first Dot Right Big Ten title since World War Two.

2520
02:11:37,840 --> 02:11:41,640
Speaker 2: And you know with their first national championship. It wasn't

2521
02:11:41,680 --> 02:11:46,080
Speaker 2: just that he did it. The rapid transformation. I mean

2522
02:11:46,600 --> 02:11:50,640
Speaker 2: for a team that was nobody and they're twenty seven

2523
02:11:50,680 --> 02:11:52,840
Speaker 2: and two in the last two years national championships. By

2524
02:11:52,840 --> 02:11:56,080
Speaker 2: the way, he Signette was also fifty two to nine

2525
02:11:56,160 --> 02:11:59,640
Speaker 2: in five seasons at James Madison and helped they, you know,

2526
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:03,640
Speaker 2: guide that transition into Division one. By the way, Signetti

2527
02:12:03,720 --> 02:12:06,400
Speaker 2: is also the oldest first time champion. He's sixty four.

2528
02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:09,920
Speaker 2: Became the oldest coach in college football history to capture

2529
02:12:09,960 --> 02:12:14,480
Speaker 2: a debut title, older than even Bobby Bowden. And by

2530
02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:16,360
Speaker 2: the way, he learned under some of the best too.

2531
02:12:16,360 --> 02:12:16,880
Speaker 5: He was under.

2532
02:12:17,160 --> 02:12:19,200
Speaker 2: He was let's sab in his first three years at Alabama.

2533
02:12:20,440 --> 02:12:24,280
Speaker 2: But what Signetti brought is a discipline culture, a high

2534
02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:28,680
Speaker 2: standard culture. And his father, you may or may not know,

2535
02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:32,040
Speaker 2: Frank Signetti. He is a Hall of Fame Division two coach.

2536
02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:37,560
Speaker 2: So how's Kurtz Signetti gonna be recognized? He's a culture builder.

2537
02:12:37,560 --> 02:12:40,640
Speaker 2: Immediately changed the culture, the programs he inherits. They become

2538
02:12:40,720 --> 02:12:44,840
Speaker 2: business like, they develop a winning attitude. And let's put

2539
02:12:44,880 --> 02:12:48,760
Speaker 2: it this way. You transform Indiana from a bottom feed

2540
02:12:48,840 --> 02:12:52,120
Speaker 2: ter in football to a powerhouse overnight. And goes sixteen

2541
02:12:52,160 --> 02:12:55,600
Speaker 2: to zero and Barry teams. They beat Oregon twice, They

2542
02:12:55,640 --> 02:12:57,960
Speaker 2: beat him by double digits. They beat Alabama thirty eight

2543
02:12:58,000 --> 02:13:01,480
Speaker 2: to three, They beat Miami. Everybody put in front of them,

2544
02:13:01,480 --> 02:13:05,360
Speaker 2: they beat Ohio State. It's just incredible, and I can't

2545
02:13:05,360 --> 02:13:07,200
Speaker 2: say enough bad I can't say enough good things about

2546
02:13:07,240 --> 02:13:12,000
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti. But I formulated that list based on what

2547
02:13:12,280 --> 02:13:16,360
Speaker 2: history tells us and based on perspective. I guess you

2548
02:13:16,680 --> 02:13:19,240
Speaker 2: sort of have to grade it on a curve if

2549
02:13:19,280 --> 02:13:21,840
Speaker 2: you get my drift. But I don't want anybody thinking,

2550
02:13:22,040 --> 02:13:24,840
Speaker 2: you know, I'm slighting Kurt Signetti in any way. That

2551
02:13:25,520 --> 02:13:28,280
Speaker 2: would be virtually impossible to do. I don't know how

2552
02:13:28,640 --> 02:13:33,280
Speaker 2: you would again. Twenty seven to two at Indiana over

2553
02:13:33,360 --> 02:13:35,960
Speaker 2: two years, an unprecedented sixty to oer record. They beat

2554
02:13:35,960 --> 02:13:38,600
Speaker 2: Miami twenty seven to twenty one. And by the way,

2555
02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:41,680
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty fourth first year he turned the team around,

2556
02:13:41,720 --> 02:13:45,120
Speaker 2: they won eleven games. That was a program record right there.

2557
02:13:45,640 --> 02:13:50,640
Speaker 2: Fifty two and nine five years at James Madison and

2558
02:13:50,760 --> 02:13:54,280
Speaker 2: by the way, successful coaches have great success at every level.

2559
02:13:54,680 --> 02:13:59,680
Speaker 2: He coached an Elon University for two years in twenty

2560
02:13:59,720 --> 02:14:03,240
Speaker 2: seven teen twenty eighteen, took it very serious. He took

2561
02:14:03,280 --> 02:14:05,400
Speaker 2: over a program that was twelve and forty five the

2562
02:14:05,480 --> 02:14:09,000
Speaker 2: previous five years, led them to back to back FCS

2563
02:14:09,080 --> 02:14:13,400
Speaker 2: playoff appearances for the first time in school's history. He

2564
02:14:13,480 --> 02:14:16,000
Speaker 2: won the Paul Bearbrian Award, two time Big Coach of

2565
02:14:16,040 --> 02:14:19,160
Speaker 2: the Year, Big Ten Coach of the Year Award. And

2566
02:14:19,800 --> 02:14:22,560
Speaker 2: by the way, let's not forget one other thing. One

2567
02:14:22,600 --> 02:14:26,280
Speaker 2: other thing is very important. The transfer portal is not

2568
02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:28,400
Speaker 2: an easy thing to navigate. As a matter of fact,

2569
02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:31,440
Speaker 2: I think Nick Saban got out of coaching because you

2570
02:14:31,440 --> 02:14:36,320
Speaker 2: didn't want to deal with it. I understand it becomes

2571
02:14:36,360 --> 02:14:40,040
Speaker 2: a you know, a revolving door of what. You don't

2572
02:14:40,080 --> 02:14:42,440
Speaker 2: know what I mean. We just had we just said,

2573
02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:45,480
Speaker 2: Duke had they signed their quarterback Darien Menson to a

2574
02:14:45,560 --> 02:14:47,240
Speaker 2: multi year deal. He decides he wants to leave it.

2575
02:14:47,280 --> 02:14:49,440
Speaker 2: They got to assume, he said, that's the nature of

2576
02:14:49,480 --> 02:14:55,280
Speaker 2: college football. But somehow, somehow, okay, you know, this isn't

2577
02:14:55,280 --> 02:14:59,800
Speaker 2: a cliche. What Signetti has always said is I have

2578
02:15:00,040 --> 02:15:04,760
Speaker 2: size fundamentals over magic and extreme accountability. But they're dealing

2579
02:15:04,800 --> 02:15:09,240
Speaker 2: with the portal, okay. And he somehow utilized the portal

2580
02:15:09,760 --> 02:15:13,720
Speaker 2: to bring established players from other schools and their previous stops,

2581
02:15:13,840 --> 02:15:18,880
Speaker 2: like James Madison to Indiana. He wanted to prove if

2582
02:15:18,920 --> 02:15:21,400
Speaker 2: you have production, you have experience, and you have a

2583
02:15:21,520 --> 02:15:25,840
Speaker 2: fit that can override traditional high school recruiting rankings, like

2584
02:15:25,920 --> 02:15:28,600
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a moneyball thing. In moneyball, what

2585
02:15:28,720 --> 02:15:32,440
Speaker 2: did they say, we want runs? We're recruiting runs. Guys

2586
02:15:32,520 --> 02:15:35,480
Speaker 2: get on base any way they can. So I think

2587
02:15:35,600 --> 02:15:41,520
Speaker 2: Kurt Signetti has somewhat helped to re revolutionize what's important

2588
02:15:41,680 --> 02:15:45,600
Speaker 2: in coaching. By the way, for the best pregame show

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Speaker 2: Because this is such a topic that got out of

2612
02:17:23,920 --> 02:17:27,560
Speaker 2: control this past week, which I've had about enough of,

2613
02:17:28,440 --> 02:17:32,320
Speaker 2: how about some perspective Other than Don Shula, Chuck Noll,

2614
02:17:32,440 --> 02:17:37,840
Speaker 2: and Tom Landry, no other coach Norther coach made it

2615
02:17:37,920 --> 02:17:39,600
Speaker 2: to the Hall of Fame on their first ballot, and

2616
02:17:39,640 --> 02:17:43,880
Speaker 2: they were all deserving. He was the winningest coach in

2617
02:17:44,080 --> 02:17:46,119
Speaker 2: NFL history. He was inducted into the Hall of Fame

2618
02:17:46,160 --> 02:17:51,040
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety seven. Two time Super Bowl champion and

2619
02:17:51,160 --> 02:17:53,400
Speaker 2: in the NFL champion before the Super Bowl was created,

2620
02:17:53,440 --> 02:17:56,320
Speaker 2: head coach with the Coats and Dolphins, the only coach

2621
02:17:56,400 --> 02:17:58,680
Speaker 2: to go and defeed it right you get. Chuck Nole

2622
02:17:58,720 --> 02:18:00,560
Speaker 2: also made the Hall of Fame first back out nineteen

2623
02:18:00,600 --> 02:18:03,280
Speaker 2: ninety three, led the Steelers to four Super Bowls in

2624
02:18:03,320 --> 02:18:07,360
Speaker 2: the seventies, never lost one. Tom Landry came the first

2625
02:18:07,400 --> 02:18:09,280
Speaker 2: to do so in nineteen ninety. In his twenty nine

2626
02:18:09,360 --> 02:18:12,119
Speaker 2: year career with the Cowboys, he had twenty straight winning seasons,

2627
02:18:12,160 --> 02:18:18,160
Speaker 2: two Super Bowl titles. Now, interestingly enough, George Hallis, George

2628
02:18:18,240 --> 02:18:21,520
Speaker 2: Hallis and Curly Lambeau they did not make the Hall

2629
02:18:21,560 --> 02:18:23,280
Speaker 2: of Fame in their first ballot. Well, that's because the

2630
02:18:23,320 --> 02:18:27,160
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame didn't exist until nineteen eighty at sixty three.

2631
02:18:27,280 --> 02:18:33,200
Speaker 2: Excuse me, but outside of Bill, the most prominent coaches

2632
02:18:33,280 --> 02:18:35,039
Speaker 2: not to make the Hall of Fame in the first ballot,

2633
02:18:35,200 --> 02:18:38,560
Speaker 2: believe it or not, Vince Lombardi, he didn't make it

2634
02:18:38,640 --> 02:18:42,480
Speaker 2: in his first ballot. Paul Brown, who basically was the

2635
02:18:42,640 --> 02:18:45,560
Speaker 2: architect of many of the offenses you see today, he

2636
02:18:45,680 --> 02:18:49,920
Speaker 2: did it back in the sixties. Bill Walsh, Yeah, that

2637
02:18:50,040 --> 02:18:52,560
Speaker 2: Bill Walsh. He did not make the Hall of Fame

2638
02:18:52,640 --> 02:18:56,120
Speaker 2: in his first ballot. Jimmy Johnson did not make the

2639
02:18:56,160 --> 02:19:00,400
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame in his first ballot. Lombardi, Walsh, Jimmy

2640
02:19:00,480 --> 02:19:05,440
Speaker 2: Johnson all multi time championships. They were all presenting as

2641
02:19:05,440 --> 02:19:08,199
Speaker 2: an architect over a dynasty and some of the most

2642
02:19:09,080 --> 02:19:14,840
Speaker 2: technical and influential coaches. I think in the NFL. Okay

2643
02:19:17,120 --> 02:19:20,160
Speaker 2: Lombardi coached the Redskins through sixty nine. He passed away

2644
02:19:20,760 --> 02:19:23,440
Speaker 2: right before the nineteen seventy season, and they inducted him

2645
02:19:23,440 --> 02:19:28,119
Speaker 2: within a year of his death. But again, other coaches.

2646
02:19:28,200 --> 02:19:34,240
Speaker 2: Despite leading Washington in the Redskins to three Super Bowl wins,

2647
02:19:34,800 --> 02:19:37,800
Speaker 2: Joe Gibbs, he was not elected on the first ballot.

2648
02:19:38,840 --> 02:19:41,680
Speaker 2: And how about Bill Parcells, He had to wait until

2649
02:19:41,680 --> 02:19:45,240
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen to receive his bust despite winning two Super Bowls.

2650
02:19:45,840 --> 02:19:49,360
Speaker 2: Hank Stram, just keep partriculating the ball down the field. Boys.

2651
02:19:49,720 --> 02:19:51,960
Speaker 2: You know, everybody remembers Joe Namath and what he did

2652
02:19:52,000 --> 02:19:56,840
Speaker 2: in Super Bowl three, most people have forgotten. With Hank

2653
02:19:56,920 --> 02:20:00,160
Speaker 2: Stram and a very good Kansas City Chiefs team, theyd

2654
02:20:00,200 --> 02:20:02,959
Speaker 2: to do. A very good Minnesota Vikings team in Super

2655
02:20:03,000 --> 02:20:05,520
Speaker 2: Bowl four thumped him. I think the score was like

2656
02:20:05,600 --> 02:20:10,160
Speaker 2: twenty three to six. Hank Stram not on the first ballot,

2657
02:20:10,640 --> 02:20:14,480
Speaker 2: John Madden. Imagine that not only was John Madden and

2658
02:20:14,560 --> 02:20:16,720
Speaker 2: Hank Stram not on the first ballot, they had to

2659
02:20:16,760 --> 02:20:19,760
Speaker 2: wait decades until they were inducted. Stram was a three

2660
02:20:19,840 --> 02:20:22,160
Speaker 2: time AFL Super Bowl cham and a Super Bowl champion.

2661
02:20:22,680 --> 02:20:26,600
Speaker 2: Non inducted Hill twenty OZH three and John Madden led

2662
02:20:26,600 --> 02:20:29,320
Speaker 2: the Raiders to a super Bowl victory in Super Bowl eleven.

2663
02:20:29,600 --> 02:20:32,240
Speaker 2: They completely destroyed the Vikings in the Rose Bowl that

2664
02:20:32,360 --> 02:20:36,360
Speaker 2: day thirty two to fourteen. Madden holds the NFL's highest

2665
02:20:36,400 --> 02:20:39,680
Speaker 2: winning percentage among coaches that coach at least one hundred games.

2666
02:20:40,280 --> 02:20:41,880
Speaker 2: He had to wait all the way till two thousand

2667
02:20:41,879 --> 02:20:46,800
Speaker 2: and six for his gold jacket. We Bubank, who presided

2668
02:20:46,840 --> 02:20:49,520
Speaker 2: over that great New York Jets team that upset the

2669
02:20:49,600 --> 02:20:52,240
Speaker 2: Colts in Super Bowl three? How about Dick for me

2670
02:20:52,400 --> 02:20:55,640
Speaker 2: on the Greatest Show on Turf, Tony Dungee, Bill Coller,

2671
02:20:55,920 --> 02:20:59,360
Speaker 2: Tom Flores. They were all Super Bowl winning coaches that

2672
02:20:59,480 --> 02:21:02,240
Speaker 2: had to wait and wait and wait before they made

2673
02:21:02,280 --> 02:21:07,240
Speaker 2: it to the Hall of Fame. Mike Shanahan, Tom Coughlin,

2674
02:21:07,640 --> 02:21:11,600
Speaker 2: Mike Colgran, George Seffert, or they all have in common.

2675
02:21:13,000 --> 02:21:14,560
Speaker 2: They haven't even made it to the Hall of Fame

2676
02:21:14,680 --> 02:21:19,000
Speaker 2: yet at all. Think about that, Mike Shanahan, Mike Colmbrin,

2677
02:21:19,520 --> 02:21:25,640
Speaker 2: Tom Coughlin, George Seffert. So look, as I said in

2678
02:21:25,720 --> 02:21:29,280
Speaker 2: my opening, Linod lock tonight about the outrage that people

2679
02:21:29,360 --> 02:21:33,279
Speaker 2: have and what you are dealing with. Are human beings

2680
02:21:33,320 --> 02:21:36,000
Speaker 2: that make these decisions I think, based on emotion and

2681
02:21:36,240 --> 02:21:38,800
Speaker 2: justify it later with logic. That's the way I see it.

2682
02:21:39,879 --> 02:21:42,879
Speaker 2: I believe most human beings make their decisions on emotion

2683
02:21:43,040 --> 02:21:47,480
Speaker 2: and justify with logic, and the reason for that because

2684
02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:50,640
Speaker 2: of human And if you don't believe that's the case, well,

2685
02:21:51,080 --> 02:21:53,760
Speaker 2: I don't think they'd sell three brand new automobiles a

2686
02:21:53,879 --> 02:21:58,199
Speaker 2: year in the world if people didn't buy things on emotion.

2687
02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:02,360
Speaker 2: That's just the way I see it. So when the

2688
02:22:02,600 --> 02:22:05,400
Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame class is announced next week,

2689
02:22:05,440 --> 02:22:07,280
Speaker 2: a certain name will not be on it. Does that

2690
02:22:07,360 --> 02:22:09,680
Speaker 2: mean you'll never get in? I doubt that very seriously,

2691
02:22:10,480 --> 02:22:14,320
Speaker 2: but clearly, you know, we have a situation where this

2692
02:22:14,480 --> 02:22:16,840
Speaker 2: is not the only time this has ever happened to

2693
02:22:16,879 --> 02:22:19,360
Speaker 2: a prominent coach, albeit the one who won more Super

2694
02:22:19,360 --> 02:22:22,600
Speaker 2: Bowls than anybody else. But we can't tell a story

2695
02:22:22,680 --> 02:22:26,039
Speaker 2: without some other issues hanging alongside. And some of those

2696
02:22:26,080 --> 02:22:30,600
Speaker 2: folks decided to make that their deciding factor, which I

2697
02:22:30,720 --> 02:22:34,360
Speaker 2: guess is their right. All Right, we are one hundred

2698
02:22:34,400 --> 02:22:37,000
Speaker 2: and thirty days away from World Cup. We covered all

2699
02:22:37,040 --> 02:22:41,000
Speaker 2: on this show, including the other football spelled futbol, and

2700
02:22:41,120 --> 02:22:44,800
Speaker 2: I heard Easy Guccier say something that made me scratch

2701
02:22:44,920 --> 02:22:48,800
Speaker 2: my head to the point of almost bleeding. He says, Yeah,

2702
02:22:48,800 --> 02:22:50,240
Speaker 2: I don't how many people want to travel with this

2703
02:22:50,320 --> 02:22:53,480
Speaker 2: country right now? Sure only five hundred million people have

2704
02:22:53,600 --> 02:22:57,200
Speaker 2: applied for applications to get tickets to come to the

2705
02:22:57,280 --> 02:22:59,800
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, of which most of the games would be

2706
02:22:59,800 --> 02:23:02,480
Speaker 2: played in this country. So yeah, I'm gonna have to

2707
02:23:02,480 --> 02:23:04,400
Speaker 2: go ahead and disagree with you on that one. Bill Lumberg,

2708
02:23:04,840 --> 02:23:08,280
Speaker 2: thanks for checking in. It's time for Chris profets World

2709
02:23:08,320 --> 02:23:09,039
Speaker 2: of Soccer.

2710
02:23:10,200 --> 02:23:26,240
Speaker 8: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drama. It's

2711
02:23:26,280 --> 02:23:29,480
Speaker 8: all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

2712
02:23:29,959 --> 02:23:35,240
Speaker 27: The transfer window in Europe closes on February second, so

2713
02:23:35,760 --> 02:23:38,360
Speaker 27: not a lot of time left before some of the

2714
02:23:38,480 --> 02:23:41,400
Speaker 27: transfers that you could see around the league. Of course,

2715
02:23:41,720 --> 02:23:44,120
Speaker 27: this is all really requires a little bit of digging

2716
02:23:44,240 --> 02:23:48,080
Speaker 27: into the deals that could be done. The big name

2717
02:23:48,120 --> 02:23:51,080
Speaker 27: I think that might be of interest to Americans would

2718
02:23:51,120 --> 02:23:54,840
Speaker 27: be Ricardo Peppi, forward for the US men's national team,

2719
02:23:55,480 --> 02:23:58,160
Speaker 27: currently playing with the Dutch side PSV. He's actually being

2720
02:23:58,200 --> 02:24:02,640
Speaker 27: targeted by English club at Fulham, who currently sits a

2721
02:24:02,879 --> 02:24:06,960
Speaker 27: tidy seventh on the Premier League table as of the

2722
02:24:07,120 --> 02:24:09,920
Speaker 27: thirty first Pretty good considering Fulham as one of those

2723
02:24:09,959 --> 02:24:13,640
Speaker 27: clubs that kind of pinballs back up and down the

2724
02:24:14,240 --> 02:24:17,240
Speaker 27: top of the English ladder, and you want to see

2725
02:24:17,320 --> 02:24:20,840
Speaker 27: more of what Fulham is about. Sunday at nine am

2726
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:23,800
Speaker 27: Eastern time here in the United States, they will be

2727
02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:27,080
Speaker 27: going to Manchester United as one of the big Premier

2728
02:24:27,160 --> 02:24:30,640
Speaker 27: League matches of that day, so could be a very

2729
02:24:30,720 --> 02:24:32,920
Speaker 27: interesting move to see him maybe get a little bit

2730
02:24:33,000 --> 02:24:36,800
Speaker 27: more spotlight. The big prize right now though, is Jean

2731
02:24:36,879 --> 02:24:41,280
Speaker 27: Philipe Matteta, French striker currently playing for Crystal Palace, and

2732
02:24:41,400 --> 02:24:44,360
Speaker 27: a lot of the interest has come from multiple clubs.

2733
02:24:44,400 --> 02:24:50,119
Speaker 27: I've seen everyone from Tottenham Hotspur, Nottingham Forest and Italian

2734
02:24:50,200 --> 02:24:53,600
Speaker 27: size like Juventus and Milan all very interested, it seems

2735
02:24:53,680 --> 02:24:57,119
Speaker 27: from Atteta's camp himself he is basically demanding the transfer

2736
02:24:57,720 --> 02:25:00,600
Speaker 27: to Milan, which would be really interesting for to watch.

2737
02:25:01,040 --> 02:25:03,720
Speaker 27: I'm kind of the sick go who enjoys the Italian

2738
02:25:03,840 --> 02:25:08,520
Speaker 27: Professional League. AC Milan right now sitting five points backup

2739
02:25:08,840 --> 02:25:13,960
Speaker 27: of their in city rival Internasional. Once again, my favorite

2740
02:25:14,000 --> 02:25:16,680
Speaker 27: time of year as Siria turns into a bit of

2741
02:25:16,760 --> 02:25:21,440
Speaker 27: a horse race, a final stretch to really near the

2742
02:25:21,680 --> 02:25:24,160
Speaker 27: end of the year. As you see them also bucking

2743
02:25:24,240 --> 02:25:26,640
Speaker 27: with Knapoli, Roman and Juventus.

2744
02:25:26,280 --> 02:25:27,080
Speaker 2: On their heels.

2745
02:25:27,280 --> 02:25:30,080
Speaker 27: It always makes for a very very interesting finish at

2746
02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:33,040
Speaker 27: the end of the year. Speaking of his Internasional, the

2747
02:25:33,120 --> 02:25:36,920
Speaker 27: knockout round draw is finished for the UEFA Champions League.

2748
02:25:37,120 --> 02:25:40,680
Speaker 27: Internazional will take on. Now excuse me if I'm getting

2749
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Speaker 27: this wrong. This is Norwegian dug lind I believe is

2750
02:25:43,879 --> 02:25:47,119
Speaker 27: how I'm supposed to say it. I'm not really terribly familiar.

2751
02:25:47,879 --> 02:25:51,360
Speaker 27: Excuse me there, but this is part of we mentioned

2752
02:25:51,400 --> 02:25:53,320
Speaker 27: this before we were going to talk eventually about the

2753
02:25:53,360 --> 02:25:54,119
Speaker 27: Champions League.

2754
02:25:54,560 --> 02:25:58,640
Speaker 1: The group stage is done, well I call it group stage.

2755
02:25:58,640 --> 02:26:00,840
Speaker 27: I'm not really sure what's really do with it, since

2756
02:26:00,920 --> 02:26:05,160
Speaker 27: it is one to thirty six and the format is

2757
02:26:05,280 --> 02:26:08,160
Speaker 27: still something we're all kind of wrapping our heads around

2758
02:26:08,200 --> 02:26:10,600
Speaker 27: a little bit. Of course, the top eight in those

2759
02:26:10,640 --> 02:26:13,120
Speaker 27: standings go straight to the round of sixteen, while a

2760
02:26:13,200 --> 02:26:18,400
Speaker 27: knockout round of eight. Spots on the line for places

2761
02:26:18,680 --> 02:26:22,920
Speaker 27: nine through twenty four are all there to try to

2762
02:26:23,600 --> 02:26:25,640
Speaker 27: see if they can move on and earn their own

2763
02:26:25,760 --> 02:26:28,840
Speaker 27: place in the greatest of the greatest when it comes

2764
02:26:28,879 --> 02:26:32,280
Speaker 27: to this. One of those clubs really of interest, not

2765
02:26:32,440 --> 02:26:34,840
Speaker 27: the ones in the knockout round, but not in the

2766
02:26:34,920 --> 02:26:39,119
Speaker 27: knockout round. It's the one that basically swept their group

2767
02:26:39,200 --> 02:26:42,520
Speaker 27: stage eight wins all together, and that would be Arsenal,

2768
02:26:42,560 --> 02:26:46,320
Speaker 27: who also, we must remind you, sits atop the Premier

2769
02:26:46,440 --> 02:26:49,520
Speaker 27: League table. Is in contention I believe still for the

2770
02:26:49,600 --> 02:26:53,200
Speaker 27: Carabo Cup. They'll be playing here on the third of

2771
02:26:53,320 --> 02:26:56,000
Speaker 27: February for the second leg of the Caravell Cup against

2772
02:26:56,440 --> 02:27:01,200
Speaker 27: Chelsea and just thrashed Leads United four nil in Premier

2773
02:27:01,320 --> 02:27:04,920
Speaker 27: League play. Also, I believe in contention still for the

2774
02:27:05,080 --> 02:27:07,760
Speaker 27: FA Cup. All eyes really on Arsenal. It would be

2775
02:27:08,440 --> 02:27:11,480
Speaker 27: fascinating to watch. We've talked in the past about clubs

2776
02:27:11,520 --> 02:27:16,200
Speaker 27: coming close to the quadruple of winning the Champions League,

2777
02:27:16,200 --> 02:27:19,280
Speaker 27: the League Cup, the Premier League and the FA Cup.

2778
02:27:19,720 --> 02:27:22,200
Speaker 27: Arsenal certainly in a place to do that right now,

2779
02:27:22,280 --> 02:27:24,800
Speaker 27: but they're not someone who we've usually thought of like that.

2780
02:27:25,040 --> 02:27:28,800
Speaker 27: You think about Manchester City or even Jurgen klops Liverpool

2781
02:27:28,959 --> 02:27:31,000
Speaker 27: teams Arsenal doing this.

2782
02:27:31,920 --> 02:27:32,200
Speaker 2: Look.

2783
02:27:32,560 --> 02:27:37,800
Speaker 27: Arsenal currently leads the Premier League table with a grand

2784
02:27:37,879 --> 02:27:41,440
Speaker 27: total of fifty three points right now. That is seven

2785
02:27:41,520 --> 02:27:45,360
Speaker 27: points clear of Manchester City. They're also doing all these

2786
02:27:45,400 --> 02:27:48,760
Speaker 27: other competitions like I just laid out, and that has

2787
02:27:48,959 --> 02:27:51,640
Speaker 27: in the past watching clubs like Liverpool kind of been

2788
02:27:51,680 --> 02:27:55,560
Speaker 27: a source of trying to juggle a lot of plates

2789
02:27:55,680 --> 02:27:58,320
Speaker 27: right now. Their big issue right now is a warm

2790
02:27:58,440 --> 02:28:02,480
Speaker 27: up injury for well Yakosaka, one of their star forwards.

2791
02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:04,800
Speaker 2: Availabilities not quite.

2792
02:28:05,360 --> 02:28:06,640
Speaker 1: It shouldn't be that serious.

2793
02:28:06,760 --> 02:28:10,119
Speaker 27: I believe Mikail Arteta, the manager, said he wasn't comfortable

2794
02:28:10,160 --> 02:28:10,520
Speaker 27: to play.

2795
02:28:10,920 --> 02:28:11,320
Speaker 1: Of course.

2796
02:28:11,600 --> 02:28:13,720
Speaker 27: I think a lot of the power behind Arsenal right

2797
02:28:13,800 --> 02:28:17,400
Speaker 27: now has been the amazing firepower of Declan Rice. But

2798
02:28:18,120 --> 02:28:20,600
Speaker 27: Socca you would hope this is not something long term

2799
02:28:20,720 --> 02:28:23,960
Speaker 27: for him, especially with all these plates that they're juggling.

2800
02:28:24,040 --> 02:28:26,840
Speaker 27: But the good news about those knockout rounds and Champions

2801
02:28:26,920 --> 02:28:29,480
Speaker 27: League means they get to sit tight a little bit

2802
02:28:29,640 --> 02:28:33,360
Speaker 27: and wait for other clubs to really beat themselves up.

2803
02:28:33,440 --> 02:28:35,920
Speaker 27: Some of those clubs in those knockout rounds include Paris

2804
02:28:35,920 --> 02:28:41,840
Speaker 27: Saint Germain, Juventus, Borussia dortmun Real Madrid. I think we

2805
02:28:41,920 --> 02:28:45,880
Speaker 27: mentioned Indre Nazia now earlier as well, so like but

2806
02:28:46,160 --> 02:28:47,800
Speaker 27: one thing you won't really see is a lot of

2807
02:28:47,879 --> 02:28:50,200
Speaker 27: English clubs down there. Newcastle United is one of them.

2808
02:28:50,520 --> 02:28:51,600
Speaker 2: But that kind of.

2809
02:28:51,600 --> 02:28:55,720
Speaker 27: Belies how many English clubs are in those top eight

2810
02:28:55,840 --> 02:29:00,880
Speaker 27: straight through we mentioned Arsenal, Liverpool, Tottenham, Chelsea and Manchester

2811
02:29:01,000 --> 02:29:04,320
Speaker 27: City coming in at number eight. That is over half

2812
02:29:04,600 --> 02:29:08,120
Speaker 27: of the automatic qualifiers for the round of sixteen. No

2813
02:29:08,240 --> 02:29:10,960
Speaker 27: matter which way the knockout round plays right now for

2814
02:29:11,120 --> 02:29:14,960
Speaker 27: Champions League, the later rounds are going to be very,

2815
02:29:15,600 --> 02:29:19,320
Speaker 27: very English heavy, which is a very fascinating feature to

2816
02:29:19,400 --> 02:29:21,720
Speaker 27: keep an eye on. We'll keep all that in mind

2817
02:29:21,800 --> 02:29:22,960
Speaker 27: and we'll see you on the other side of the

2818
02:29:23,000 --> 02:29:26,160
Speaker 27: transfer window closing next time on the World of Soccer.

2819
02:29:28,240 --> 02:29:30,680
Speaker 2: Well, we're one hundred and thirty days away. This is

2820
02:29:30,720 --> 02:29:34,520
Speaker 2: a forty eighteen tournament. It begins June eleventh. There's already

2821
02:29:34,520 --> 02:29:39,039
Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of anticipation and as I mentioned earlier,

2822
02:29:39,920 --> 02:29:41,920
Speaker 2: for those who believe that people don't want to travel

2823
02:29:41,959 --> 02:29:46,120
Speaker 2: to this country, well there are five hundred million ticket requests.

2824
02:29:47,160 --> 02:29:51,240
Speaker 2: FIFA is managing this incredibly massive demand. Where there are

2825
02:29:51,240 --> 02:29:53,280
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty million people in the United States,

2826
02:29:53,760 --> 02:29:56,320
Speaker 2: these requests come from all around the world. The demand

2827
02:29:56,400 --> 02:29:59,960
Speaker 2: and the pricing. This is just going to be craziness

2828
02:30:00,080 --> 02:30:02,120
Speaker 2: and I'm here for it. I'm here for it. I

2829
02:30:02,200 --> 02:30:04,840
Speaker 2: covered a World Cup game in nineteen ninety four at

2830
02:30:04,920 --> 02:30:10,120
Speaker 2: the Silverdome in Detroit. It's nothing you've ever seen, honestly,

2831
02:30:10,320 --> 02:30:13,080
Speaker 2: and it's going to be on our soil and you

2832
02:30:14,320 --> 02:30:17,560
Speaker 2: will enjoy the hell out of it, which we already know. Okay,

2833
02:30:18,440 --> 02:30:22,840
Speaker 2: coming up, we wrap up the show and a couple things.

2834
02:30:23,520 --> 02:30:26,480
Speaker 2: I have a quick thought as we transition next week

2835
02:30:26,520 --> 02:30:30,840
Speaker 2: into heavy, heavy Super Bowl stuff. Underdogs have proven to

2836
02:30:30,920 --> 02:30:36,800
Speaker 2: be very scrappy in recent Super Bowls, very scrappy. I'll

2837
02:30:36,840 --> 02:30:39,040
Speaker 2: tell you what. I'll tell you what they I'll be

2838
02:30:39,120 --> 02:30:41,520
Speaker 2: a little bit more specific about that. And oh, by

2839
02:30:41,560 --> 02:30:44,600
Speaker 2: the way, Dreamond Green, he's had a list of notable

2840
02:30:44,640 --> 02:30:49,200
Speaker 2: incidents in his career and basing on you know, whether

2841
02:30:49,320 --> 02:30:54,959
Speaker 2: he wants to disrespect players, officials, etc. At least ten

2842
02:30:55,000 --> 02:30:57,920
Speaker 2: of them that we can find, and we may talk

2843
02:30:57,920 --> 02:31:00,320
Speaker 2: about his body at work coming up, in case you

2844
02:31:00,400 --> 02:31:04,800
Speaker 2: missed his incident on Saturday night, I'm Bernie Fraddle come

2845
02:31:04,800 --> 02:31:07,000
Speaker 2: to your line from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Studios.

2846
02:31:07,080 --> 02:31:09,520
Speaker 2: Keep it locked. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle Show.

2847
02:31:09,320 --> 02:31:12,240
Speaker 8: On Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup

2848
02:31:12,280 --> 02:31:15,320
Speaker 8: in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports

2849
02:31:15,440 --> 02:31:19,720
Speaker 8: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR

2850
02:31:19,879 --> 02:31:20,720
Speaker 8: to listen live.

2851
02:31:28,280 --> 02:31:30,120
Speaker 2: All right, we are wrapping it up on the Bernie

2852
02:31:30,160 --> 02:31:35,360
Speaker 2: Fraddle Show. We'll thank my producers Mark and Brandon Turning,

2853
02:31:35,400 --> 02:31:38,800
Speaker 2: all the donalds, keeping us glued together, taking the callers,

2854
02:31:38,879 --> 02:31:41,840
Speaker 2: managing the time clock, all the good things so that

2855
02:31:41,920 --> 02:31:44,720
Speaker 2: we can bring this show to you in a greatful nation.

2856
02:31:44,920 --> 02:31:49,640
Speaker 2: Thanks for all your help real quickly. You know the

2857
02:31:49,760 --> 02:31:52,200
Speaker 2: Super Bowl was going to dominate. Take all the airt

2858
02:31:52,240 --> 02:31:56,160
Speaker 2: of the room the next eight days as well. It should. Okay,

2859
02:31:56,320 --> 02:31:59,520
Speaker 2: it's it's not just a game. It's a spectacle. You

2860
02:31:59,600 --> 02:32:02,840
Speaker 2: got all the sextra attention. There'll be twenty three billion

2861
02:32:02,879 --> 02:32:06,920
Speaker 2: dollars wagered, hundreds of million people watching. Pregame fest is

2862
02:32:07,120 --> 02:32:10,720
Speaker 2: a longer halftime, all kinds of wrinkles, and oh, by

2863
02:32:10,760 --> 02:32:13,200
Speaker 2: the way, there's a game. This role is basically a

2864
02:32:13,240 --> 02:32:18,959
Speaker 2: two week convention for the National football Game, culminated National

2865
02:32:18,959 --> 02:32:21,920
Speaker 2: Football League, excuse me, culminated by a game. All right,

2866
02:32:23,320 --> 02:32:26,360
Speaker 2: but it's a level playing field. There's only two teams left,

2867
02:32:26,959 --> 02:32:31,000
Speaker 2: and so when you put forth a betting line, it's sometimes,

2868
02:32:31,280 --> 02:32:33,959
Speaker 2: you know, tough to justify one team being a substantial

2869
02:32:34,080 --> 02:32:37,039
Speaker 2: favorite over another. Not that there haven't been big favorites,

2870
02:32:37,120 --> 02:32:41,160
Speaker 2: but dogs they don't just cover. They win the game

2871
02:32:41,240 --> 02:32:43,440
Speaker 2: more often than favorites, believe it or not. And this

2872
02:32:43,600 --> 02:32:46,680
Speaker 2: is a trend that's tracking back to you know, about

2873
02:32:47,000 --> 02:32:50,560
Speaker 2: twenty five years, and you know, spreads can be based

2874
02:32:50,600 --> 02:32:53,879
Speaker 2: on better activity. Remember, the betting line is not a predictor.

2875
02:32:54,000 --> 02:32:57,800
Speaker 2: Las Vegas is not in the fortune telling business or

2876
02:32:57,840 --> 02:33:00,920
Speaker 2: the prediction business. The goal the sports book is to

2877
02:33:01,000 --> 02:33:04,280
Speaker 2: maximize profit and minimize risk. The line is four and

2878
02:33:04,320 --> 02:33:06,360
Speaker 2: a half right now. I told you I grabbed the

2879
02:33:06,440 --> 02:33:09,160
Speaker 2: points and I get it. I get it. A lot

2880
02:33:09,240 --> 02:33:12,480
Speaker 2: of people don't feel New England's offense can keep paces

2881
02:33:12,520 --> 02:33:16,160
Speaker 2: with Seattle's. But a frecent history is any indication the

2882
02:33:16,280 --> 02:33:19,400
Speaker 2: Pats being an underdog. They have a far greater chance

2883
02:33:19,480 --> 02:33:23,760
Speaker 2: of winning or at least covering, than the betting market suggests. Okay,

2884
02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:30,080
Speaker 2: and people will make cases that New England had their

2885
02:33:30,120 --> 02:33:32,920
Speaker 2: offensive struggles and they had an easy path, that's why

2886
02:33:32,920 --> 02:33:35,160
Speaker 2: they're an underdog, et cetera, et cetera. Most of the

2887
02:33:35,200 --> 02:33:37,720
Speaker 2: money's come in on Seattle. I think about sixty nine

2888
02:33:37,760 --> 02:33:42,040
Speaker 2: percent of the money's on the bets around Seattle, like

2889
02:33:42,120 --> 02:33:44,440
Speaker 2: sixty four percent of the handle. We'll see, we'll see

2890
02:33:44,440 --> 02:33:49,160
Speaker 2: where it goes. The Super Bowl is one game where

2891
02:33:49,200 --> 02:33:56,480
Speaker 2: the public action can match and certainly exceed professional betters.

2892
02:33:57,280 --> 02:34:01,360
Speaker 2: And they're handled now also listening for get about seventy

2893
02:34:01,400 --> 02:34:05,000
Speaker 2: five percent of the game. The handle of the game

2894
02:34:05,160 --> 02:34:09,480
Speaker 2: is props. And you know how the props work. There's

2895
02:34:09,520 --> 02:34:12,039
Speaker 2: yes and no props, over runder, props who will score

2896
02:34:12,120 --> 02:34:14,360
Speaker 2: the first touchdown. There's all kinds of what I call

2897
02:34:14,520 --> 02:34:18,680
Speaker 2: needle in the haystack props, shooting babies at the moon props,

2898
02:34:18,959 --> 02:34:21,800
Speaker 2: those exist. One of the more creative props I think

2899
02:34:21,840 --> 02:34:24,360
Speaker 2: I saw this year was would this year's score of

2900
02:34:24,480 --> 02:34:26,840
Speaker 2: the game be identical to any of the scores from

2901
02:34:26,879 --> 02:34:29,520
Speaker 2: the previous fifty nine Super Bowls. I think it pays

2902
02:34:29,520 --> 02:34:31,360
Speaker 2: pretty good. Those are the props that I'm getting involved,

2903
02:34:31,360 --> 02:34:34,000
Speaker 2: and anyway, there's lots of ways. We'll see what happens.

2904
02:34:34,000 --> 02:34:36,480
Speaker 2: I will tell you this, though, the underdog has been

2905
02:34:36,520 --> 02:34:39,959
Speaker 2: a best friend in recent Super Bowls. They've covered five straight,

2906
02:34:40,360 --> 02:34:43,600
Speaker 2: won three consecutive. Outright, Remember the Eagles were a point

2907
02:34:43,600 --> 02:34:46,240
Speaker 2: and a half underdog last year against the Chiefs. They won.

2908
02:34:46,879 --> 02:34:48,680
Speaker 2: Two years ago here in Las Vegas, the Chiefs were

2909
02:34:48,760 --> 02:34:51,200
Speaker 2: two point underdog. Let mee some the Niners one out

2910
02:34:51,280 --> 02:34:54,480
Speaker 2: right before that. The Chiefs when they're back to back,

2911
02:34:55,560 --> 02:34:57,800
Speaker 2: they were plus two against the Eagles one out right

2912
02:34:58,040 --> 02:34:59,840
Speaker 2: before that. Yeah, the Rams might have been laying for

2913
02:35:00,800 --> 02:35:05,760
Speaker 2: against Cincinnati, but Bengals covered. And let's not forget Tom

2914
02:35:05,800 --> 02:35:08,480
Speaker 2: Brady when he won one with Tampa Bay. They were

2915
02:35:08,560 --> 02:35:11,640
Speaker 2: three point underdog against the Chiefs and won. So I'm

2916
02:35:11,680 --> 02:35:14,480
Speaker 2: not gonna go over everyone, right, But in the last

2917
02:35:14,560 --> 02:35:17,280
Speaker 2: eighteen matchups, the underdogs are thirteen and five against the

2918
02:35:17,360 --> 02:35:20,400
Speaker 2: number and eleven and seven outright. You go back to

2919
02:35:20,440 --> 02:35:23,200
Speaker 2: the last twenty five Super Bowls, underdogs are eighteen and

2920
02:35:23,280 --> 02:35:27,640
Speaker 2: seven against the number, thirteen and twelve outright. So don't

2921
02:35:27,680 --> 02:35:30,480
Speaker 2: tell me New England just you know, can't win this game.

2922
02:35:30,879 --> 02:35:35,640
Speaker 2: They can, but it's a spectacle and they're gonna play

2923
02:35:35,640 --> 02:35:37,760
Speaker 2: it on the field. They'll decide it. So next week

2924
02:35:37,800 --> 02:35:40,400
Speaker 2: at this time, we will have you full of more

2925
02:35:40,440 --> 02:35:43,160
Speaker 2: Super Bowl stuff. You're gonna need to be drinking through

2926
02:35:43,440 --> 02:35:49,160
Speaker 2: a fire hose. Look, Draymond Green, when it's all said

2927
02:35:49,200 --> 02:35:51,640
Speaker 2: and done, is gonna get Hall of Fame votes. He

2928
02:35:51,720 --> 02:35:53,879
Speaker 2: had a good career at Michigan State. He's a key

2929
02:35:54,000 --> 02:35:59,000
Speaker 2: cock and what's been a successful, you know, Golden State

2930
02:35:59,040 --> 02:36:01,720
Speaker 2: Warriors team, even though certainly I think their best days

2931
02:36:01,720 --> 02:36:04,840
Speaker 2: are behind them. He had an incident's Saturday night, and

2932
02:36:04,920 --> 02:36:06,520
Speaker 2: this stuff just doesn't seem to want to And this

2933
02:36:06,600 --> 02:36:09,400
Speaker 2: time he blamed a referee putting a hand in his face.

2934
02:36:10,360 --> 02:36:14,720
Speaker 2: But you know, this is not Draymond's first barbecue, as

2935
02:36:14,760 --> 02:36:17,440
Speaker 2: it were, this all started in twenty thirteen. You're gonna

2936
02:36:17,440 --> 02:36:20,279
Speaker 2: believe this body at work, Claire. Back in twenty thirteen,

2937
02:36:21,320 --> 02:36:24,240
Speaker 2: he got ejected for a flagrant file on Blake Griffin

2938
02:36:24,879 --> 02:36:27,440
Speaker 2: and because he would not leave the court when asked

2939
02:36:27,480 --> 02:36:30,400
Speaker 2: or leave the court promptly. And these are based on

2940
02:36:30,600 --> 02:36:33,920
Speaker 2: verified reports. I'm not going to swear on the hold

2941
02:36:33,920 --> 02:36:36,199
Speaker 2: my hand and swear, but these are from reliable sources.

2942
02:36:37,200 --> 02:36:39,560
Speaker 2: Green was to find another fifteen thousand dollars so it

2943
02:36:39,600 --> 02:36:42,360
Speaker 2: commits a flagrant file then doesn't leave the court promptly.

2944
02:36:43,440 --> 02:36:46,560
Speaker 2: Three years later, remember he kicked Steven Adams in another

2945
02:36:46,640 --> 02:36:51,199
Speaker 2: region during the playoffs, and you know, during twenty sixteen,

2946
02:36:52,000 --> 02:36:55,680
Speaker 2: fined twenty five thousand. Later in the playoffs during the finals,

2947
02:36:56,360 --> 02:36:59,039
Speaker 2: he swung at Lebron James another region in the finals,

2948
02:36:59,280 --> 02:37:03,200
Speaker 2: suspended for Game five. That I think is Lebron's greatest

2949
02:37:03,280 --> 02:37:06,520
Speaker 2: championship doing that with Cleveland and Matthew Delvlodova and the

2950
02:37:06,560 --> 02:37:10,160
Speaker 2: guys coming back. I believe they were down three games

2951
02:37:10,200 --> 02:37:12,400
Speaker 2: to one or three, certainly three games to two, and

2952
02:37:12,959 --> 02:37:17,600
Speaker 2: you know, critics argue that had had Draymond not missed

2953
02:37:17,640 --> 02:37:21,039
Speaker 2: Game five, they might have won. They probably would have won.

2954
02:37:21,920 --> 02:37:26,080
Speaker 2: But the body of work continues. In twenty eighteen. Get this,

2955
02:37:27,520 --> 02:37:30,880
Speaker 2: It seems like ancient history now, but KD. Kevin Durant

2956
02:37:32,360 --> 02:37:40,680
Speaker 2: actually actually was a teammate of Draymond's. He was suspended

2957
02:37:40,800 --> 02:37:45,040
Speaker 2: one game after having an argument with teammate Kevin Durant.

2958
02:37:46,400 --> 02:37:49,920
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two is when ish got really real. He

2959
02:37:50,040 --> 02:37:52,640
Speaker 2: had that flying punch and wasn't supposed to have been

2960
02:37:52,720 --> 02:37:55,400
Speaker 2: captured on video or whatever happened. I don't know. He

2961
02:37:55,520 --> 02:37:58,400
Speaker 2: was behind closed doors in a practice. He nailed teammate

2962
02:37:58,520 --> 02:38:02,000
Speaker 2: Jordan Poole in practice and that really set the team

2963
02:38:02,040 --> 02:38:04,480
Speaker 2: on edge for the remainder of the year. Pool was

2964
02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:09,360
Speaker 2: ended up being you know, dealt and so you know

2965
02:38:09,480 --> 02:38:12,120
Speaker 2: that we're halfway through his body at work. How about

2966
02:38:12,160 --> 02:38:17,920
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three he stomped on Demontes Sibonis was

2967
02:38:17,959 --> 02:38:22,920
Speaker 2: suspended one game. Later on in twenty twenty three, he

2968
02:38:23,000 --> 02:38:25,560
Speaker 2: put a choke hold on Rudy Gobert and was suspended

2969
02:38:26,160 --> 02:38:31,720
Speaker 2: five games. Oh yeah. Also in twenty twenty three, which

2970
02:38:31,840 --> 02:38:35,520
Speaker 2: was his big hit year, he struck use of nurkt

2971
02:38:35,640 --> 02:38:39,080
Speaker 2: in the face, got an indefinite suspension which ended up

2972
02:38:39,120 --> 02:38:43,240
Speaker 2: being twelve games. Later on that same year, So we

2973
02:38:43,320 --> 02:38:46,080
Speaker 2: had four incidents in twenty twenty three, starting with simonas

2974
02:38:46,640 --> 02:38:51,280
Speaker 2: Rudy Gobert use of Nurkic, and then in twenty twenty

2975
02:38:51,320 --> 02:38:56,560
Speaker 2: three he received his sixteenth technical foul and was suspended

2976
02:38:56,640 --> 02:39:01,600
Speaker 2: one game. Finally, Saturday Night, wasn't there, didn't see it,

2977
02:39:01,680 --> 02:39:04,480
Speaker 2: but the accounts seemed to be accurate. He received a

2978
02:39:04,520 --> 02:39:06,680
Speaker 2: technical file for telling a referee not to put a

2979
02:39:06,720 --> 02:39:12,720
Speaker 2: hand in his face, setting disrespect. So you have this

2980
02:39:13,560 --> 02:39:19,600
Speaker 2: incredible body of work, Draymond Green, and he isn't doing

2981
02:39:19,680 --> 02:39:25,920
Speaker 2: himself any favors because you know he's he's been this

2982
02:39:26,080 --> 02:39:28,720
Speaker 2: bad boy, He's been a highly productive player. Let's be honest,

2983
02:39:28,760 --> 02:39:33,360
Speaker 2: He's been a highly productive player, but he felt disrespected

2984
02:39:33,440 --> 02:39:37,400
Speaker 2: by this referees gesture toward him with his hand, and

2985
02:39:37,560 --> 02:39:40,080
Speaker 2: I just started to wonder is this necessary? I mean,

2986
02:39:40,879 --> 02:39:45,640
Speaker 2: it's just one of those situations. The referee admonished him,

2987
02:39:45,680 --> 02:39:49,119
Speaker 2: stopped talking to me. It's his I think his twenty

2988
02:39:49,160 --> 02:39:53,000
Speaker 2: fifth ejection, something along those lines, second in career ejections,

2989
02:39:53,720 --> 02:39:57,920
Speaker 2: just behind Rashid Wallace. Look, I can hold two thoughts concurrently,

2990
02:39:58,040 --> 02:40:01,039
Speaker 2: Dramon's a great player, but man and the impulse control,

2991
02:40:01,560 --> 02:40:03,360
Speaker 2: it ain't there. It doesn't seem it's gonna be there

2992
02:40:03,400 --> 02:40:06,120
Speaker 2: anytime soon. It's gonna do it for the Bernie Fradles Show.

2993
02:40:06,160 --> 02:40:08,120
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week. Keep it locked up next

2994
02:40:08,120 --> 02:40:09,680
Speaker 2: to great Andy Furman on Fox