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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor

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Speaker 1: with you. Scientist Futurists author Stephen A. Schwartz is a

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Speaker 1: distinguished consulting faculty member of Sabrick University. He is a

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Speaker 1: columnist for the journal Explorer, editor of the daily web

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Speaker 1: publication Schwartz Report dot net, in both of which he

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Speaker 1: covers trends that are affecting our future, and for more

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Speaker 1: than forty years an experimentalist, he has been studying the

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Speaker 1: nature of consciousness, particularly that aspect independent of space and time.

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Speaker 1: He's part of a group that founded the Modern Remote

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Speaker 1: Viewing Research Program and as the principal of researchers studying

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Speaker 1: the use of remote viewing and archaeology. Stephen, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: How are you hi, George? How good looking forward to this?

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Speaker 1: Everything fine? Family good. Yeah, we got through the pandemic

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Speaker 1: pretty well, no problems. Very glad that that's true. Well, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about a lot of things with you tonight.

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Speaker 1: But tell me consciousness, How did you get involved in

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Speaker 1: this aspect? Well, I had a series of experiences and

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Speaker 1: then I had a series of very strange coincidences which

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Speaker 1: introduced me to the edgrecation material and I started reading

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Speaker 1: them and eventually read all the readings, and that got

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Speaker 1: me to read science, and I read everything that had

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Speaker 1: ever been published in a science journal about consciousness and

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Speaker 1: also many books, And as sixty eight, I started experimenting

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Speaker 1: is consciousness part of the brain or outside of the brain?

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Speaker 1: There is an aspect of consciousness that is not physiologically based.

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Speaker 1: That the issue is the continuity of consciousness. That is,

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Speaker 1: does consciousness exist prior to incarnation, during your life, and

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Speaker 1: does it continue after your corporeal death, after physical death?

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Speaker 1: And the evidence I think is overwhelming that that is true.

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Speaker 1: If it is true, that tells you a lot about

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Speaker 1: the ability to use it and how it works. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I think once you begin to recognize the idea that

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Speaker 1: all consciousness is interlinked and interdependent, and that's where science

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Speaker 1: is headed. And the most interesting thing going on right

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Speaker 1: now in both science and in the popular culture is

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Speaker 1: that about fifteen shows on Netflix, Who Lose Stars, Showtime

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Speaker 1: deal with the issue of consciousness. And at the same

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Speaker 1: time as it's happening in the popular culture. Also, there

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Speaker 1: are a number of societies scientific societies which are starting

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Speaker 1: up because researchers increasingly, however, they may start their point

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Speaker 1: of view eventually confront the reality of consciousness in their research,

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Speaker 1: and that's changing the nature of science. Can we use

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Speaker 1: our own consciousness to tap into something and use it

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Speaker 1: for our own abilities and good things? Yes? Yes. In fact,

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Speaker 1: if you think about it, every religion starts with a

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Speaker 1: single individual having a consciousness, a non local consciousness experience.

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Speaker 1: And then you think about it for a minute. Jesus

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Speaker 1: the desert and he meditates and he awakens. The Buddha,

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Speaker 1: Kalama and he's taught to meditate and he awakens. Muhammad

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Speaker 1: six ten and he awakens. So all of this begins

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Speaker 1: because a single individual has a nonlocal consciousness experience. And

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Speaker 1: if you look at religious ceremonies and spiritual practices, if

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Speaker 1: you strip away the dogma and the scripture that's all

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Speaker 1: what you discover is that it's about allowing yourself and

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Speaker 1: teaching yourself how to open to this nonlocal aspect of consciousness.

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Speaker 1: That's why meditation is such a significant and universal activity

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Speaker 1: And there's a tie in with this. With all these

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Speaker 1: do you think they seem to be coming out like crazy. Well,

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Speaker 1: that they are acting very much like cultural anthropologists studying

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Speaker 1: but they are constantly monitoring what's going on. I mean.

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Speaker 1: The good news I guess is that if they wanted to,

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Speaker 1: And I think they're watching us to see how we're

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Speaker 1: happened to that old galactic saying that they're not supposed

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Speaker 1: to get involved in other civilizations? Well they don't really.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, now we have the ability to

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Speaker 1: very interesting, they may also be helping us. I've always

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Speaker 1: been struck by the abductee stories, you know, and people

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Speaker 1: and Arthur said to me, you know, it may be

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Speaker 1: that about forty thousand years ago, they manipulated us genetically

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Speaker 1: do not have dominion over the earth. We are actually

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Speaker 1: part of a matrix of consciousness and we do not

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Speaker 1: dominate it. We are simply a part of it. And

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Speaker 1: until we learn that, we continue to do things which

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Speaker 1: are destructive of the matrix. Yeah, there's no question that

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Speaker 1: we probably could have been seated by them, Stephen, and

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Speaker 1: you know, that's exactly right, George. I mean it is

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Speaker 1: interesting to note that they are behaving the same way

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Speaker 1: cultural anthropologists behave when they study tribal groupings. You know,

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Speaker 1: And we may have been lucky that we may have

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Speaker 1: been genetically altered by the good ones. Yes, exactly. I

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Speaker 1: of it, you don't see maliciousness. You don't see aggressive

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Speaker 1: they taught them to meditate twenty minutes a day. And

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Speaker 1: what happened It transformed these schools to appoint when they

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Speaker 1: this aspect of consciousness. I think we can achieve extraordinary

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