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Speaker 2: And they've been in bolting under Trump and voted under McCrory,

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Speaker 2: He holds intensely homophobic views, going so going far further

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Speaker 2: one generation where homosexuality it was once criminalized, to now

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm, that's not true.

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Speaker 2: You guys know how Christians are, so remember that, y'all

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Speaker 2: would just see somebody with a Bible and the police

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've all seen that, You know how

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Speaker 2: Press Previously, Harris was a key organizer, organizer, and financer

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Speaker 3: It's a popular refrain.

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Speaker 2: The only position set forth in I'm sorry, the only

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Speaker 2: like all forms of sexual behavior, is a choice. Mark Harris,

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Speaker 2: In addition to his first Baptist church funneled fifty thousand

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, is willing to giving.

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Speaker 2: Up your ten percent to go to the No, we

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Speaker 3: We don't want to like feed anyone. Yes women, No, No,

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Speaker 3: there's no Thorowell country that could use this. The money needs.

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Speaker 2: To go to keeping gay people from getting married. That's

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Speaker 2: a good use of this of the lord's money. That's

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Speaker 2: what God would want us to do with it. Right,

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Speaker 2: there's not medical there's not the medical evidence that an

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Speaker 2: He told a reporter in twenty thirteen. That is a choice.

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Speaker 2: He went on to claiming accurately. My thing is, I

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Speaker 2: don't I never understand the people because you're a Bible person, right,

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Speaker 2: you're about you're a Christian, right, and you're a publican Christian.

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Speaker 2: You don't believe in the science of global warming.

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Speaker 3: You don't believe.

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Speaker 2: In the science of fucking anything that isn't Bible based.

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Speaker 2: You don't believe in the science of evolution, right, they

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Speaker 2: don't believe in these things. But then you quote science

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Speaker 3: How housewife?

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Speaker 2: When are the scientists, okay, any other if I say

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Speaker 3: You gom damn scientists.

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Speaker 2: The liberal jew run the sciences. They it's just a

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Speaker 2: for no good reason. Okay, all right, well what about evolution?

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Speaker 2: I mean thousands of archaeologists, I mean the study. Listen,

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Speaker 3: Tooth tigers in the morning. That's just what we used

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, the scientists, they actually have been able

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Speaker 3: They don't know.

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Speaker 2: That is nothing but satan and the gobbledygook. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: all right, you said so the scientists don't know what

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Speaker 2: you're talking about exactly. Well, I think marriage quality should

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Speaker 3: Now hold up, buddy, the science on that is different.

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Speaker 2: The scientists said that you are either born man or woman,

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Speaker 3: Every time. They always come back to this circle of

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Speaker 2: Science is how we can prescribe our bigotry, right, it

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Speaker 2: which is just propaganda. Funk out of my face, all right.

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Speaker 2: Colorado just elected a trans woman to the state legislature

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Speaker 2: for the first time.

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Speaker 3: Some good news Friday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Brianna Tittone or tetone, I'm not sure how to pronounce it,

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Speaker 3: I'm a very grateful. I'm a very grateful.

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Speaker 2: I guess I'm very grateful for so many people for

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Speaker 2: So cool, dope, Colorado, I think also has the gay governor,

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Speaker 2: openly gay governor.

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Speaker 3: I think so. I think we just covered that last week.

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Speaker 3: So good for them, man, yay, yeah, good for them.

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Speaker 3: Let's see what else happened here in the news. I

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, okay cool. So yeah, that's dope, man, Like

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Speaker 5: Well, you know what, I don't hate gay people no more,

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Speaker 6: They think the person that sells me my weed is gay.

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Speaker 6: What do I have against gay people?

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Speaker 2: First of all, the person sells my weed, it's not

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Speaker 6: That's true, because my thing is it properly trained them.

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Speaker 2: As opposed to just housing housing her with women inmates.

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Speaker 2: They was like, fuck it, right, just and everybody doesn't

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Speaker 2: learn about these shits. All right, let's see what else

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Speaker 2: we got here. Victoria's secret CEO.

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Speaker 3: Remember him, Yes, that old man.

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Speaker 4: It was saying we don't want big women.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said we don't hevy women, trans women and

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Speaker 2: Victoria's secret CEO steps down following controversial anti trans and

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Speaker 4: Comments like these people don't work for you. Yep.

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Speaker 2: Last week, during the interview, Rajak was asked if he'd

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Speaker 3: In the show? No?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think we should. Well, why not? Because

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Speaker 2: the show is a fantasy. Now to two years of operating,

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Speaker 2: the CEO of the Victoria's Secrets Lingerie division, he is

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Speaker 2: now walking away. Oh wait, Jan Singer is now walking

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Speaker 2: it's somebody else.

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Speaker 2: So she stepped down following his comments. What the fuck?

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Speaker 2: Jan Singer is walking away from her title? According to reports,

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Speaker 2: the lingerie company, which is owned by L Brands, has

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Speaker 3: Yeah. See, I feel like he said that. Shit.

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Speaker 2: Maybe she quit in protest, or maybe she just was like,

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Speaker 3: I can't be here and take.

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Speaker 4: That for you. The sales are gonna be even worse.

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Speaker 2: Now, he did issue that apology that we read, which

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Speaker 2: keep trying. All right, let's get into other news. See

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Speaker 2: what's happening here. Beyonce takes full control of ivy Park

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Speaker 2: at the cutting tides of her business partner Philip Green,

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Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, so she was like, oh, we go into business.

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Speaker 3: Oh I got.

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Speaker 4: The money that I can buy the whole thing. Bitch,

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Speaker 4: Now all hold the money mine.

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Speaker 2: Yes, she is now the sole owner of Ivy Park

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Speaker 2: currently being under investigation for sexual harassment, bullying and racial

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Speaker 4: Yeah, She's like, I'm not gonna lose out because you

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Speaker 2: At the discussions of almost a year, Parkwood has acquired

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Speaker 2: Parkwood and Arcada Is splitting the venture fifty to fifty.

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Speaker 3: Green denies the claim. Beyonce Philip.

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Speaker 2: Beyonce Philip Green partner up in twenty fourteen to develop

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Speaker 2: the Ivy Park at Leisure brand, which includes of course, legging, sports,

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Speaker 2: according to a purported twenty seventeen financial statement, Ivory Park

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Speaker 2: Beyonce has been under pressure to discontinue her multi million

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Speaker 3: Comment on the allegations. Well, I will take this as

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Speaker 6: She had public that action is her comment. What are

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Speaker 2: This seems like a comment to me, which is a

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Speaker 2: nigga Please you can go.

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Speaker 4: Get She's like the paperwork straight, okay, dan Nell San.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's also like one of those things too where you

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Speaker 2: can't let motherfuckers tie themselves to your brand because they

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Speaker 4: Yes, they will.

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Speaker 2: Like I'll you know, like I love me a good firestarter.

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Speaker 2: a person that just don't take no shit or they

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Speaker 2: just kind of you know, but it's kind of like

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Speaker 3: You know, Jay and Beyonce used to.

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Speaker 3: Just don't care, don't care about yours.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they just I mean, if they don't care about themselves,

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Speaker 6: Correct, it's a lot of five starars that actually care

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Speaker 2: But but for well, if they recognize that, they will

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Speaker 2: where it's like they can be cool, but you let

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Speaker 2: because you're willing to just fucking say or do something

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Speaker 2: and you might get fun out of it, you might

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Speaker 3: You might not even be able to help yourself.

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Speaker 2: But I can, nigga, So I actually choose to move

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Speaker 2: navigate away from folks like that, because you know, you

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Speaker 2: to like close shop right for real. Williams Uh says

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Speaker 2: people in the industry need to stand by Kanye West,

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Speaker 4: You ain't nobody stopping you.

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Speaker 7: Well, you're talking about our brother, mister West. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 7: sure we called our brother nah, but we we have

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Speaker 7: ever in the history have we ever witnessed a staple

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 7: So I look at the symbolism of that, and I say, man,

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Speaker 3: That's our brother. Of course we.

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Speaker 7: Don't, you know, abandon him because we fundamentally disagree.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Man, he's saying that from here.

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Speaker 6: Can he probably has a personal relationship with that dude.

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Speaker 6: Most people don't. Mostly don't have that obligation. Because since

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It comes after a day after Kim Kardashian West, who

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Speaker 2: Wes like Trump's personality, was not familiar with his policies.

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Speaker 2: I feel Kanye's misunderstood and he's the worst communicator, she

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Speaker 2: He's not very political. He just happens to like Donald

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Speaker 3: So I've educated him recently. Well, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Williams emphasized that his love for Kanye is greater than

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Speaker 3: I'm not signing with him at all. What I'm looking

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00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 3: at is is his DNA. He's our brother, He's human.

442
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: That's what it really boils down to, Okay, for real,

443
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: I mean I'm not Look, it's easy for us to

444
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 2: say because we don't know this nigga.

445
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: He ain't our.

446
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,439
Speaker 6: Friends, right, and so I feel like that's one hundred

447
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 6: percent where his perspective.

448
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 4: Is coming from.

449
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 6: And the thing is, and you said it for it's

450
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 6: real easy to badge somebody when they're not your family

451
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 6: members for some reason, kind of everybody he has compassion

452
00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 6: and understanding.

453
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I'm not trying to make him have to

454
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 2: disagree or whatever. I think it's interesting that he then

455
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 2: turns around and subscribes it to all of us. I

456
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: think you can kind of say for yourself like I'm

457
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: not you know, I'm not gonna just disavow this dude.

458
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 2: I think he's you know, he's my brother, he's special.

459
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 3: He's this, that, and the other. I know him. I

460
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 3: can't understand that.

461
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 2: I think what you say, we can't do this because

462
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: he's so important to the culture. I rarely do this.

463
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 2: I hate to do this right now, but I can't

464
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 2: believe I'm saying this. But where the fuck was this

465
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 2: intensity for Chrissette, Miselle or or any of these other

466
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: like people that came out. We didn't feel this way

467
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: for everybody. We didn't feel this way with Stacy Dash Like,

468
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 2: what's happening?

469
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: You know?

470
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 2: I don't know where the compassion comes from, specifically and

471
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: only really for him. I would love to see his

472
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: thoughts on other black people, and specifically black women, but

473
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: other black people who have gone coon and if he

474
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 2: feels the same way, is it just because he knows

475
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 2: this dude, or or is it like pharals like this

476
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 2: with all the black people that do some cool shit.

477
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: I just want to know, you know, yeah, what is

478
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 3: this track worker?

479
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 4: You know, I've never seen him come out to speak

480
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 4: like this for about.

481
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: Other people, right, Like, I don't know if Kanye is

482
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: like putting a little money in your pocket. You're working

483
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: with him on music, so it's just easier to be like, nah,

484
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 2: he has some good qualities, but I don't know, Man,

485
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: this feels a little weird, but I relate to the

486
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: idea of having friends that you can disagree with. I

487
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: think that has gone the way of the Dodo, unfortunately

488
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: because of the Internet. And I'm not saying that people

489
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: don't aren't friends with people they disagree with, but publicizing

490
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 2: it and standing in that friendship, that's that's over with.

491
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: Like the times when somebody said saying something fucked up

492
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 2: and you're like, you know, feel comfortable being like, well,

493
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 2: that is my friend. I just don't agree with the

494
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 2: fuck what they're doing. I don't agree with what they're saying.

495
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, you might say that behind the scenes that

496
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: you don't say yeah publicly.

497
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 3: Especially for celebrities, and I feel like those days are done.

498
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 6: Right, particularly for because everything is so polarized with them.

499
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 6: Like I said, I do understand where he's coming from.

500
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't time my brand in his ass, but okay, Yeah.

501
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 6: And also you have to think about it when it

502
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 6: comes to Kanye, he's a movie and the shaker, and

503
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 6: until he's no longer a mover and the shaker, people

504
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 6: will feel like that about him, Like he is somebody

505
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 6: that if he says, hey, I want to do a

506
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 6: song a I want now now people are you would

507
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 6: have more people say no, but before more people are like,

508
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 6: I wouldn't dare tell ya no. Yeah, and you don't

509
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 6: never know when he quote unquote gonna get back on

510
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 6: the right track or line up right.

511
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: And be hot again, and nigga's gonna forget this.

512
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 6: So I don't want to be on the side of

513
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 6: people out here talking trash. So I, like I said,

514
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 6: from that perspective, I understand.

515
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I know it's hard to see somebody like

516
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: shit on a person that's your actual friend. So I

517
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 2: definite understand that. You know, like the idea of it's

518
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: easy for me to say I don't know this, nigga,

519
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: but if it was like Chris and somebody was just

520
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: going in on him and Chris was acting stupid and

521
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 2: I couldn't even defend it, I just have to sit there,

522
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: you know, Like the best I got for you is,

523
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: I mean, that's my friend.

524
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: But I don't agree with him, you know what I mean,

525
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: I really don't have much for it.

526
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: Further than that, unless they say something, I'm going to

527
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: be like, I won't even be friends with this person,

528
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: then this is where it's at. You know, there are

529
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 2: also two rich dudes that kick it and shit, it's

530
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: not like the problems are actually affecting him to a.

531
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 3: Person like Pharrell.

532
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, not that he's like not black

533
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 2: or whatever, but like Pharrell's probably looking at it like

534
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: it's still a difference of opinion between us two individuals

535
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: as opposed to how many of us look at it,

536
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: which is it's not just a disagreement or difference of opinion.

537
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: Kanye has a platform and he's using that platform and

538
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: that's the problem and his I'm not informed and I

539
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: just like Donald Trump shit is you know, not acceptable

540
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: to many of us who are informed and understand that

541
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is a very dangerous powerful man.

542
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's.

543
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 6: Deadly to us, Like we don't take it as a game.

544
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 6: We go no no, no, no, no, no, no no.

545
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 6: The shit he does is killing people. Every day somebody

546
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 6: dies off the policies and procedure that fuck ass nigger

547
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 6: and all those people put in place. So as far

548
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 6: as weir, no no, no, We got family members and

549
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 6: loved ones that are tremendously being affected or us directly

550
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 6: and are tremendously being affected if we don't feel the consequences.

551
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 4: Now, you give it another year and a half to

552
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 4: two years.

553
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 6: Because right now, I tell everybody will still we're still

554
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 6: riding off of the Obama gravy train. A lot of

555
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 6: shit now is still Obama's policies that are in place.

556
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 6: Give it another year, two years that them fucked up

557
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 6: laws with all the tax cuts and all that stuff

558
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 6: getting ready to fall, and then the economy will change it.

559
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: We will see how many.

560
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 6: Of those people will actually care about when their money

561
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 6: gets lost in their four what case fold and their

562
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 6: investments dwindling and and jobs start going to other countries.

563
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: We'll see how you feel about it then.

564
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 6: But nobody cares right now because they're not di record

565
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 6: to being impacted by the fuck up policies and procedures

566
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 6: that he's put it in place.

567
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, also that whole like I don't know better, so

568
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 2: y'all have to respect me. Thing that Kanye did was

569
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 2: just not cool, you know, And like I said, I

570
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: still don't know what his mental health issues were.

571
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: But even with all that, the.

572
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: Impact of his influence could definitely be used for bad things.

573
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 6: Right, And I am just amazed how many American people

574
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 6: are very ignorant to the policies that he's putting in

575
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 6: place and just do not realize these Well.

576
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: Is it?

577
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: Is it a lot of people or is it Kanye

578
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: is a representative of like he's rich, he like he

579
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: can just go off of feelings.

580
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 4: Right, like privilege.

581
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

582
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are awhere of his

583
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 2: policies because they live under him, you know what I mean?

584
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: They like Kanye, doesn't like Kanye and Kim hired a

585
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: private firefighter for us to preserve their mansion during the

586
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 2: California campfire. Yes, just like there and they ended up

587
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: saving some of their like neighborhoods and neighbors mansions and shit.

588
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: But they did that.

589
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: They hired a private firefighter for us just to protect

590
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: their shit.

591
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 3: I don't know that a guy.

592
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 2: Like that is necessarily concerned with Trump's policies, because what

593
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: the fuck does that have to do with his life, right?

594
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: You know?

595
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 3: Michael B. Jordan was interview because Creed's.

596
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 2: Coming out and he's doing his his pre movie interviews,

597
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: and so he did an interview I think with GQ,

598
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: and people are taking quotes from it. He talks about

599
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 2: dating he said. It's a little bit hard for him.

600
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 2: He said, he tries a different approach, but it's like

601
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: I can meet you right now, boom right here, me

602
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: and you sitting here chilling whatever, meal whatever. Somebody to

603
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: be over there see this, and all of a sudden,

604
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: you're my girl. Now, the person writing editorialized, I wouldn't

605
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: mind this. I say, my personal stock with Rose. Let

606
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: it Rod's girl. Let it rise, he says generously. Then

607
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: in instantly it is instantly serious. So then they're going

608
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: to talk about you. They're going to find out who

609
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: you are. They're gonna find out what your Instagram is,

610
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: They're going to find us in that, and all the

611
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: fan club and everybody else is going to find out

612
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: who you are. And now you and I forever associated

613
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: with one another. So now, how do you go around

614
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: anywhere chill just getting to know somebody that you just

615
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 2: met that you may not may or may not hit

616
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: it off at all. That part of dating is tough,

617
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: he quickly asks. Now, I'm not saying options aren't there.

618
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, but as far as like the

619
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: nuance of dating, it's just not the same. I'm just

620
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: going to keep trying to work on myself and build

621
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: this empire. Yeah, he's basically said that he doesn't even

622
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: really want to date right now because he's trying to

623
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: build his brand. And he's says, you know, he's thirties

624
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: in LA he's trying to you know, he started a

625
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: movie company, and he's he said, he's not concentrating on

626
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: that part of life. You know, he feels that he's

627
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: mature in other areas, but not really in dating. Uh.

628
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: He said, my career is awesome, it is going great.

629
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: There's other places in my life that I'm fucking lacking at.

630
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: I'm very mature in advance in a lot of areas

631
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: of life. Dating may not be one of them. My

632
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: personal life is not. I don't really know what dating is.

633
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: And I saw people like reacting to these comments, What

634
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: do you think about them?

635
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 6: This is his truth and he does he doesn't have

636
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 6: a normal life like I think sometimes when people respond

637
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 6: to celebrities, they respond like they would with their everyday life.

638
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 6: You you regular normal person. Nobody's spouting you around. There's

639
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 6: no cameras around you. We don't know who you are.

640
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 6: You can go through the grocery store, you can function

641
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 6: around the world, and have a normal job and not be.

642
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 3: Followed by Papa Rozzi.

643
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 4: It is not the same.

644
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: And he's just being very truthful.

645
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 6: And a lot of men possibly feel like him, but

646
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 6: never was said publicly because of masculinity is so fragile.

647
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 6: It's a lot of immature ass niggas out there that

648
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 6: will never admit a this dating thing is.

649
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 4: Hard because it is hard.

650
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 6: People will not it's hard, period, but nobody will admit

651
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 6: that the shit is hard and it's not simple, and

652
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 6: it's not cut and dry, and it's a little bit

653
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 6: more than I thought. And it's okay to dedicate your

654
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 6: time to other things, and it's okay to admit that.

655
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 3: You're flowered, you know.

656
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 4: And a lot of it is.

657
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 6: More of people going, well, you know, you wouldn't have

658
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 6: a problem with me. He probably would never look at you.

659
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 6: You are not on his radar of women that are

660
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 6: women that he would even consider. And so I think

661
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 6: a lot of times people are coming from a place

662
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 6: of jealousy, just wishing it was them or whatever the

663
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 6: case may be. But I have no problem with what

664
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 6: he says. He's just being real and being hisself. And

665
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 6: the thing is when you're real or quote unquote being truthful.

666
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 6: Everybody has to poke holes and criticize the people that

667
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 6: are quote unquote too real or you or they feel like,

668
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 6: how dare you be a celebrity something. I consume this

669
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 6: flawed because my life is flawed. So I come to

670
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 6: entertainment to even though I know you're a person, but

671
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 6: I come to entertainment to look at people that are

672
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 6: not flawed.

673
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

674
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: I looked at this several ways, the first being I've

675
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: taken him at his word. I don't think there's anything

676
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: wrong with what he said in the context that he

677
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: said it.

678
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 3: I don't understand.

679
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: I don't think any human being owes it to society

680
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: to fucking date, find a relationship, get married, or any

681
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: of that shit.

682
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: I found it to be kind of.

683
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: Telling how people were putting this like fictional pressure on him,

684
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: like you have to be this, so that I thought

685
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 2: that was weird.

686
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 3: I always think it's weird.

687
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 2: Two, if the genders were reversed, people will be calling

688
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: him iconic and fucking That's what I'm talking about.

689
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 3: Build your brand, don't.

690
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I saw people just kind of switch it,

691
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: and I think I was the opposite too. There's people

692
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: that are like, leave that man alone, that if a

693
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 2: woman would have said the same comments, they would have

694
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 2: been like, now see, that's what's wrong with these women.

695
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: They don't want to settle down. They too worried about

696
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: their own shit.

697
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 6: Like right they make a gender was when actually his

698
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 6: comments has eblue the positively nothing to do with.

699
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: You, right, So the gender war's part.

700
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: The number three thing I noticed There were people who

701
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 2: literally must have been talking about some nigga that did

702
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: them wrong, right, because some nigga told them they weren't

703
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: mature enough for a relationship and they need to work

704
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: on themselves as a means of escaping the relationship or

705
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: or getting away from them or whatever. And they went

706
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: on these long tangents and I'm talking about it had

707
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: nothing to do with what this man said.

708
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 4: Just Tyrone, Jamal.

709
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 6: La Kwan, whatever that nigga name is, just put just

710
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 6: put him out their baby.

711
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 4: He ain't got nothing, just like.

712
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 3: Beyoncey, something happens.

713
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 6: He was just a jumping off point to get all

714
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 6: your feelings and emotions and heartache and pain on the timeline.

715
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 4: He ain't got nothing. He didn't do it though, he did.

716
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 2: Not break your heart, like I'm sorry that the dude

717
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: went on and marry the next woman in your life.

718
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 3: But that has nothing to do with Michael B. Jordan,

719
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: you know. So it was kind of like that shit.

720
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: And then the fourth thing I.

721
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: Saw, which you know, I'm inclined to believe him until

722
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: there's proof otherwise. But he has an albatross around his

723
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: neck now of this he only dates white women or

724
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 2: he doesn't date black women, to which he said.

725
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: Is not true.

726
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: He's never really been publicly attached to anyone because he's

727
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: not He doesn't really go out with like women one

728
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 2: at a time and do shit like that. So we

729
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: haven't even seen like a this is who he's seriously

730
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 2: dating thing, And we you know, we read the Daily

731
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: Mail like celeb section for shit like that, for white

732
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: people news, and he's never been in there, so that's

733
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: kind of interesting. And he said that the picture of

734
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: him on the boat with all those white girls was

735
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: him in Italy. He said, you know, he hopped on

736
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: the boat. He didn't know who was gonna be. It's

737
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: not like it's his boat. He didn't approve of who's

738
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 2: gonna be or not gonna be. They are in Italy.

739
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: He hops on a boat, gets pictured by pop Arizzi,

740
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: and it becomes Michael B. Jordan has a yacht party

741
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 2: with nothing but white women, and Bossip is making jokes

742
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: and shit. He's like, yeah, y'all had these jokes, but

743
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 2: y'all really actually kind of like I'm kind of mad

744
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: about it because y'all actually that shit is stuck with

745
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: me now. So you got people out here making jokes

746
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: and like hopping on the I must be some type

747
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: of secret coon. I only date white woman shit. And

748
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: it's been going for a minute, like it's been a

749
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: year or two now, Like I posted just this article

750
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: on my page, and people was in the comments making

751
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: jokes that he just wants to find a white girl. Like,

752
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: like I said, I haven't seen any necessary proof of that.

753
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 3: I think.

754
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: He had some comments a long time ago in a

755
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 2: in a profile we got interviewed and immediately apologized and

756
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: corrected the record on it or whatever. But that shit

757
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: is gonna stick with him forever, you know, Like I

758
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: don't think any of us really like no offense to

759
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: this dude, But I don't.

760
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: Think he's like Ty Diggs, where Tate Diggs.

761
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 2: Every interview finds a way to harp hat back on

762
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: like these you know, these white women are the real Like,

763
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: why won't y'all just let me let me understand I

764
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: need to date white women because my mom was the

765
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: one that told me black women was shit. So I

766
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: don't understand like he is, Like we've seen it multiple

767
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: interviews with him where it's like, yo, this really is

768
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: your thing, Like I don't think Michael B.

769
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 3: Jordan, you can't.

770
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 4: I ain't nobody telling him he can't.

771
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, Karen, I don't think that that's

772
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: fair to say because he says shit first and then

773
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: people react to it. So maybe people are telling him

774
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: he can't, or maybe people are telling him he's wrong,

775
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: but he is wrong. So I don't like it's not

776
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: like people started like it's a valid response to him

777
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: saying that shit of black women this and that, where

778
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: black women go, hey man, fuck you.

779
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 4: Like agree, you know what I mean?

780
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: Like agree?

781
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,959
Speaker 4: My perspective is yet, yeah, yeah, yeah, now that part.

782
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 6: Yes, we black women don't respond to black men dating

783
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 6: white women. I don't know where this myth comes from. Now,

784
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 6: there are a percentage of black women that are very

785
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 6: that feel hurt and betrayed.

786
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say that group does not exist.

787
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 6: But what they're not doing, they're not stopping you, as

788
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 6: black men from dating and loving whoever you want to love.

789
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: Most of us don't give a fuck.

790
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 6: Only time we give a fuck is when you take

791
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 6: that white woman and want to bash us up side

792
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 6: of the head, or take that other.

793
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 4: Woman you know she ain't got to be white but

794
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 4: just outside of.

795
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 6: Blackness and bash us up upside the head and tell

796
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 6: us how we ain't no good, and tell us.

797
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 4: How they the greatest thing of them.

798
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 6: Like they're not women, Like they don't have flaws, Like

799
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 6: they won't cust you out to, like they won't leave

800
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 6: you to, like they.

801
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: Won't break your heart too. They're women just like us.

802
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 6: There's no difference when it comes to certain perspectives.

803
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 3: When it comes to women.

804
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: It's the anti blackness people express, right, No one really

805
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: like one. Your dating preference really is in most people's business.

806
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: And I'm not just talking about race. People should all

807
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: like in general, people should understand at least the world

808
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: they're putting us out into. And this isn't just a

809
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: man thing a woman thing. Some people think it's revolutionary

810
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: to express like I'm into X kind of person that

811
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: you wouldn't think I would be into and there's some

812
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: marior to that, But just understand, you're putting this out

813
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: into an environment that is politicized. You're now making a

814
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: stand on something that really is a very personal thing,

815
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: and if you never explain it or come out, people

816
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: are gonna assume, but for the most part they won't know.

817
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 2: So if you're a person that literally is like, I'm

818
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: only dating white women, there would be no reason to

819
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: fucking tell the world that if that was the kind

820
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: of person you are. You know, it's only when you

821
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 2: say something that people like John Mayer was perfectly fine

822
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 2: dating all and only white women until he came out

823
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: and said, you know, his David Duke Penis comments, and

824
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 2: now he's tard and feathered for the rest of his life.

825
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: He could have just not kept that that. He could

826
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 3: have just not to to anybody.

827
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar said he likes women with natural hair and

828
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: afros and like Richard Pryor and shit, and will not

829
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: know he say he likes women with something natural like

830
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: Richard Pryor or some shit like that.

831
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 3: You really don't have to tell anybody that. Now.

832
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that his comments were so fucking horrible.

833
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: But still you don't even have to say it. You

834
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 2: made a choice. Once you make that choice, it's gonna

835
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: become politicized, right, It's gonna become Yay Kendrick Lamar for

836
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: expressing sexual urges and love and appreciation for dark skinned

837
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 2: women with afros who don't have who don't have plastic

838
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: surgery and stuff. Thank you so much, King, We need

839
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: that message. There's some people that are gonna say that.

840
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,479
Speaker 2: There's a lot of people gonna be like, what's wrong

841
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: with a woman that want to get surgically enhancement? Is like,

842
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: why you gotta be hating on that, Kendrick, Why you

843
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: can't be attracted to that? I don't know that we

844
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 2: get to tell, like, I don't know that people's sexual

845
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: attraction is altruistic, Like.

846
00:42:58,840 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 3: People like what they want.

847
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: You know, some of the wokest people in the world

848
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: probably get fucking excited for some of the people that

849
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: you would.

850
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: Be like, what the fuck them?

851
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: You know, And people like to get off on the

852
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 2: shock value of telling you that they didn't have to

853
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: tell you that should have kept it to yourself. So anyway,

854
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: all that to say, there are people that do that

855
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: for a living Michael B. Jordan does not seem to

856
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: be one of those people. He seems more annoyed that

857
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 2: it keeps coming up every time he does around the

858
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: interviews for everything, it's back to.

859
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 3: So are you cool? Do you only fuck white girls?

860
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 3: Do you hate black women?

861
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 2: And you have to be like, I don't that that

862
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: was misquoting the paper. That was also I've apologized for

863
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: the first time that yacht think that was not the

864
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: way it appeared every single toour Like, I can see

865
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: how he would feel fucked up about this, you know

866
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 2: what I mean, and for the you know, for the record,

867
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 2: a lot of people, but I.

868
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: Just don't think he's put it out.

869
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: There in that way to be to get the kind

870
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:02,359
Speaker 2: of reputation that he has. But once again, we are

871
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 2: some of our personal experiences, and what I've mostly seen

872
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: it appears that people are responding to their own personal

873
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: experiences with certain type of niggas.

874
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 3: You know.

875
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 2: I was talking to a friend the other day and

876
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: she was talking about the issue she was having with

877
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: this dude, and I was like, you know, being that

878
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: is kind of like a bit of a pattern. I'm like,

879
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 2: you could have issues with certain type of niggas, you know.

880
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: I know I used to and still do with some,

881
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 2: but I know, like, for instance, I used to be

882
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: really uh prejudice, I guess is the right word. I

883
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: don't know if prejudice the right word. But I used

884
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: to be ready for certain type of black people to

885
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: fuck up, like if they're like if you're black and

886
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 2: you're like I was a special snowflake. I was raised

887
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 2: around white people. I listened to certain types of music.

888
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: I was all like back not so long ago. I

889
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: was always ready for like and so, when are you

890
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: gonna drop the I actually don't like niggas like you rod,

891
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: why you gotta say the N word? Why do you

892
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: talk like that?

893
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 6: You know?

894
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: I was waiting for it, you know what I mean?

895
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 3: And and many.

896
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: Times it either never came or it was just some

897
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,919
Speaker 2: type it could be a like misunderstanding of the type

898
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: of thing. We really could have just talked it out.

899
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 2: And I was ready for the for the for war

900
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: on something like, So when you're gonna say what you

901
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: really think about me? You know, when are you gonna

902
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: say you know you think that I'm acting a certain way,

903
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: you think, you know whatever, Like I was ready for

904
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: the shit and I think, uh, and sometimes it would

905
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: be justified. It's not like they was good one hundreder

906
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: cent of the time. Sometimes you really do meet a

907
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: dude or a person that that is like really anti black,

908
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: they just happen to be black as well, and you're like, damn,

909
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: you really don't like the niggas, Like you don't like

910
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: people like me. So I think a lot of times

911
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 2: with black men, we have a contingent of black men

912
00:45:56,160 --> 00:46:01,280
Speaker 2: that are very vocally loud about the anti black women jokes.

913
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: The white women is so great, the Asian women and

914
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 2: all this shit, and justifiably so, it makes people put

915
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: their fucking guard up. Like so it's almost like you're

916
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: waiting on the other shoot to drop with people like this,

917
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: people like Donald Glover, people like anytime you see these

918
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: people like public black figures who are who operate in

919
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 2: blackness but are attached to spouses that aren't black, and

920
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: they have any level of critique or jokes about black people,

921
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: black women in particular, I guarantee you that's gonna make

922
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: people like feel a certain way. And we don't really

923
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: know that. For Michael Jordan, to be honest, Michael, yeah,

924
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 2: Michael B. Jordan, we don't really know that for Michael B. Jordan,

925
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: But but I think a lot of people have seen

926
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: this show enough that they're already assuming he's like that.

927
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 3: So that's a long way to go to basketball play. Well,

928
00:46:59,200 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 3: I mean we have.

929
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: I joked about Michael Jordan too, but I just thought

930
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: it was funny because you corrected me. VI, I was like,

931
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: m Michael Jordan, maybe I leave it alone. But so anyway, man,

932
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 2: it was just something to think about.

933
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 6: Man.

934
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: I saw it and just saw, like I said, the

935
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: commentary from it didn't seem to come from what he said.

936
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 3: It seemed to come from how other niggas.

937
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 6: Have been right and like I said, and a lot

938
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 6: of times those feelings come from hurting pain and black

939
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 6: women that do have an issue with black men and

940
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 6: dating white women, that pain does not come from nowhere,

941
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 6: and it's something that they personal need to address with

942
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 6: them themselves. But a lot of times, versus addressing stuff,

943
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 6: you don't do that. So you come out online and

944
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 6: anytime anything pops up that allows you to pour your

945
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 6: pain across the timeline or whatever on Facebook, twin and Instagram,

946
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 6: that's what you do, versus saying, let me check myself

947
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 6: what is it within me that causes me to feel

948
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 6: this way because who he puts his penis in has

949
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 6: absolutely possibly nothing to do with me.

950
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and society's already kind of bent one way, very

951
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 2: anti Like our society is very anti black, so it's

952
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 2: anti black woman. So we live in a misogynistic society.

953
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: We live in a patriarchal society, and we live in

954
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: a racist society. So now you're it's not like it's

955
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: an even playing field already. So any comments that contribute

956
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: to the like the myth of the angry, unattractive, unwanted

957
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 2: black woman the genteel white woman. Anytime you do that shit,

958
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 2: you're gonna end up like with a big ass response

959
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: because people just tired of it. I'm tired of people

960
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: acting as if it's never.

961
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 3: A thing, right.

962
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: I understand that we can never really know and it

963
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: has to be an individual case by case basis. For me,

964
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 2: I don't like to do the broad sweeping like that

965
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 2: person's ain't a white person, they must be a coon.

966
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 3: I don't like that shit. I think it's actually kind

967
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 3: of fucked up.

968
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 2: But in general, some people like they're invested in being

969
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: like less mock anyone who notices, And I think that's

970
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: why these people like Michael B. Jordan not his fault,

971
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,240
Speaker 2: but that's why they become touchstones for these issues because

972
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: other people select them as the champion of the the

973
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: what's wrong with a black man that just want a

974
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,840
Speaker 2: white women type of calls, and then there's other people

975
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: that select them for the this is what's wrong with

976
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 2: black men and their coons, and they become avatars for

977
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: something and you look at the comments and they're like,

978
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: the comments weren't He didn't say those things, right, but

979
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: the people around him definitely did so, I mean and

980
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 2: not around him physically, but you know what I mean,

981
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: the people on that make these commentaries in life, they

982
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: kind of pick up on the start promoting that shit.

983
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: And I think it's a very hurtful, painful thing that

984
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 2: people are doing each other. And I wish people would stop,

985
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: but correct, they're never gonna stop. Like I said, there

986
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: are these comments weren't even about white women.

987
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 3: Or none of that shit.

988
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: And people was on the page, like on my page anyway,

989
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 2: being like, uh, he's out there looking for some white women.

990
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's I mean, it's Jesse Williams was

991
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: everybody's woke. Bay got rumors attached to him supposedly dating

992
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: a white woman after him and his wife are going

993
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 2: through a contentious divorce.

994
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 3: Involving child custody and all this type of shit.

995
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 2: People was like, yeah, that dude's a coon now, like

996
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: all the shit he said that niggas a coon.

997
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 3: So it's like, but is it him particularly or is.

998
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: It just the shit that we feel around these issues

999
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: and the thousands of arguments that have happened before, Like

1000
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: it's just kind of interesting.

1001
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, Minka Kelly, that was who it was that he

1002
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 3: was attached to.

1003
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: So and I don't even know that that shit was confirmed,

1004
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 2: that's how crazy it was. And I feel like to

1005
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 2: a certain extent, he's tamped down his activism and being

1006
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 2: vocal since that shit. I don't know if that's better

1007
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: or worse for people, but it's almost like he was

1008
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: out there playing too much in activism and shit because

1009
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: people went, well, we got rumors that because I think

1010
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: he was working on a video game voice acting with

1011
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 2: Minka Kelly and it was like the room is y'all

1012
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 2: went to the beach. It's like, well, there's a thousand

1013
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: ways to explain it. Doesn't really matter, Like you're tired

1014
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 2: of feather as a coon right.

1015
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: Now, right.

1016
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 6: And the thing is, I think for a lot of people,

1017
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 6: they just want to keep people out of blackness. I've

1018
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 6: just come to the conclusion about some niggas, anything that

1019
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 6: happens at any time that gives them the right to

1020
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 6: put you out of blackness, like, oh, you're not black

1021
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 6: quote unquote black enough. And for a lot of black people,

1022
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 6: that's their biggest fear to be kicked out of blackness.

1023
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 6: But baby, let me tell you, can't nobody kick you

1024
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 6: out of blackness.

1025
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: Nobody.

1026
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 4: Your experience is a black ass experience.

1027
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 6: I don't care if both of your parents are black,

1028
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 6: one parent black, one parent is another race.

1029
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 3: Your black experience is your black experience. And you can't

1030
00:51:57,880 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 3: even really kick yourself out.

1031
00:51:59,280 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: Right.

1032
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 3: That's harder because it's posible even.

1033
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 2: If you're if you go, I don't identify as black,

1034
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm half blank, I'm half this. You really don't get

1035
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: a choice.

1036
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 3: In America.

1037
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: Everybody's like you still a nigga. It doesn't really matter

1038
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 2: what you think.

1039
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 3: Right, because they gonna treat you just like they treat me. Yeah.

1040
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 2: So I think also just this and this is what

1041
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 2: Jesse Williams too. When people want you quote unquote, they

1042
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: want you to be like be with a person that

1043
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 2: reminds them of them.

1044
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: Correct.

1045
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 2: And that's why the reason Jesse Williams I think had

1046
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: so much of a fan based black women in the

1047
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 2: first place, it's because they you know, no disrespect intended

1048
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: to his ex wife, but a lot of people really

1049
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: looked at her as this could just be me like

1050
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, not that she's not special

1051
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: in her own right, but I saw I saw it

1052
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: for myself. How many people were basically being like, I

1053
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 2: can catch a Jesse Williams, and she caught it Jesse Williams.

1054
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know that's the most complimentary thing

1055
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,479
Speaker 2: to think, but that's what it was looking like, right.

1056
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 2: And so when he his marriage doesn't work out or whatever,

1057
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people that seem to have an

1058
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: investment in it that it really was never about you.

1059
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: You know, same thing with people brought up Felling Bay.

1060
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: You know, shit, Michael B. Jordan, so many people want him,

1061
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 2: Iris Elva. You know, there's certain people that you know,

1062
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if what the right words are for it,

1063
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: but there is the fact that you are attached to

1064
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 2: a certain type of black woman or a certain type

1065
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 2: of person makes people root for you, you know, in

1066
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: a different way, whereas if you were attached to a

1067
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: person that did not remind them of themselves or they

1068
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 2: could not see themselves in, it becomes a little bit

1069
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 2: more like, I don't know if I fuck with you,

1070
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 2: you know, so anyway, it's always race taints everything.

1071
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 3: Speaking of race tainting everything.

1072
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 2: We're just fucking with those black people. We're is fucking

1073
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: with those blacks. We're just fucking with.

1074
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 3: Fucking with black people.

1075
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 2: That's right, guys. Time to play the game that we

1076
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 2: all hate to play. It's fucking with black people the game.

1077
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 2: We go all around the globe, we find different articles

1078
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: to make us feel fucked with, and we assigned points.

1079
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: Scores from zero two one hundred. Intervals are twenty four.

1080
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 2: I'm twenty five for how much we feel fucked with.

1081
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: And everybody's playing the game all right. Today Fortnite is

1082
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: playing Rapper to Millie is suing online video game Fortnite

1083
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: for profiting off of Milli Rock Dance and changing its

1084
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 2: name to swipe It.

1085
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand that. Yeah, you probably

1086
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 6: can make the characters dance like that, right, yep, yeah,

1087
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:44,840
Speaker 6: goddamn right.

1088
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 3: You getting to the world is literally Milli.

1089
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 2: Rocking on every block, including in video games, with Brooklyn

1090
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: based rapper hashtag too. Milli isn't here for people making

1091
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: a profit off his work without giving him as well

1092
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: deserved credit and consent, which is why he's taking a

1093
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 2: popular online game, Fortnite, to court. In an interview with

1094
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: CBS News, he explained how he created the trendy dance

1095
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: and how he recently found out Fortnite had implemented the

1096
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 2: move in the game. Everybody was like, yo, your dance

1097
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: is in this game. They actually sell the particular move.

1098
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: It's for purchase. That's when I was really like, oh nah,

1099
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: this can't go on too long. The company also changed

1100
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 2: the name from Millie Rock to Swipe It. The Millie

1101
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 2: Rock is two millis dance move that grew popular when

1102
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 2: the rapper dropped his music video for US Saw Millie

1103
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: Rock four years ago, where he is seen.

1104
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 3: Performing the dance.

1105
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 2: The dance came back on the scene in twenty seventeen

1106
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: following the rapper hashtag Playboy Cardi's track Magnolia. Since then,

1107
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 2: social media users have created videos using the dance, which

1108
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 2: has been noticed by businesses such as Fortnite. The Rapper

1109
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 2: plans on taking legal action against Epic Games owned franchise, However,

1110
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: there are no logistics on where his team is in

1111
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 2: the process.

1112
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 3: According to the intellectual law.

1113
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,400
Speaker 2: It is possible to copyright a dance, but not an

1114
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 2: individual dance move. The dance must have a series of

1115
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 2: movements that are arranged in a unique, original sequence in

1116
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: order to have copyright protection. One move is considered to

1117
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 2: be only one building block of an entire choreographed dance.

1118
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: An example would be song the songwriter trying to copyright

1119
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: a musical note instead of an entire song, which is

1120
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 2: unique arrangement of notes. Rappers like Chance the Rapper have

1121
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 2: been out spoken about companies profiting off of black artist's work.

1122
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 2: Fortnite should put the actual rap songs behind the dances

1123
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: that make so much money as emotes, He's stated on Twitter.

1124
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 2: Black creators created and popularize these dances, but never monetize them.

1125
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: Imagine the money people are spending on these emotes being

1126
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 2: shared with the artists.

1127
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 3: That made them. Right.

1128
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 4: It's one of those things where.

1129
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 3: You didn't just put it in the game.

1130
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 4: And call it something else. Not that he would have

1131
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 4: been fine with that.

1132
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 3: But you're charging people to purchase this.

1133
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 6: So this is not something when I get the game

1134
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 6: I can just do, right, I have to pay an

1135
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 6: extra nine nine cent to nine whatever you're charging people.

1136
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 3: Fuck y're some I'm.

1137
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 6: Gonna get a cut of this because you're charging people. Now,

1138
00:56:58,680 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 6: where's my piece of this?

1139
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? I agree completely.

1140
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 2: I really don't know that there's another way to look

1141
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 2: at I guess the Millie Rock, like they said, maybe

1142
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 2: if you just say the Millie Rock is one part

1143
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 2: of a dance. But even still, I think the morality

1144
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: of it is skeevee. I don't like, even if you

1145
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: don't get to the what the law will allow, maybe

1146
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: the suit will be thrown out or seen as you

1147
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: know something that you know, like, oh, this is just

1148
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: a petty lawsuit throwing this shit out. But I just

1149
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: feel like there should be some morality to it where

1150
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: the people that came up with these dances, you would

1151
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: at least get their permission think about compensating them, especially

1152
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 2: since you're selling it, right.

1153
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 6: And then that's the thing, and the thing is it's

1154
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 6: somewhat frustrating y'all own to do this bullshit the niggas, right,

1155
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 6: anybody else, if a white person would have came out,

1156
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 6: you would have paid them and compensated them for that.

1157
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if like the Macarenas in the game no,

1158
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: because I feel like that's a probably copyright right because

1159
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 2: it had like a bunch.

1160
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 3: Of moves correct in a series.

1161
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 6: And if you had, if you sold them macaraina separately,

1162
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 6: whoever invented the macarine and won't the macarinea coins.

1163
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: Pain pain, And especially, like you said, especially when it

1164
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 2: comes to black shit, it's like, well, this has no value,

1165
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 2: we can take.

1166
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 4: It right right because and this is the thing that

1167
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 4: kills me.

1168
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 3: It's like.

1169
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 6: Black people invent some of the coolest shit in the world,

1170
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 6: and the world just comes and they take it and

1171
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 6: they run away with it. Everybody's doing it. It's on

1172
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 6: fucking commercials YouTube. Everybody around the world is doing it.

1173
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 6: Everybody gets the credit and everybody makes the money off

1174
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 6: of it.

1175
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 3: But the person that created it.

1176
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 4: That's a problem. And nobody wants to go find out

1177
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 4: who created it.

1178
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 6: And a lot of times these people end up broken

1179
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 6: poor because we'll take from your community, but we don't

1180
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,919
Speaker 6: want to pay your community for its creativity.

1181
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 4: We want don't want to pay them front of innovation.

1182
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 6: We don't want to do that, but we'll take and

1183
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 6: rip it and smack somebody's white name across it, or be.

1184
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 3: Like, oh, we don't know who invented it. Yes you do,

1185
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 3: Yes you do. Because a lot of.

1186
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 6: Times black people don't have the means to go suit

1187
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 6: for intellectual property and all because you have to have money,

1188
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 6: lawyers and all that type of stuff. So that's why

1189
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 6: they steal from us because they know they can, and

1190
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 6: most of the times of those consequences and repercussions for

1191
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 6: them from us.

1192
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's funny because one, black people in a

1193
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 2: lot of these cases don't have the money or the

1194
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: resources to go get paid. And then the other thing

1195
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: is it reminds me of five Heartbeats that same where

1196
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: they put the white dudes on the cover of their

1197
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 2: of their song and he was like, what's gonna help

1198
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: get crossover appeal? And he's like, and and which one

1199
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: was it? Eddie was like, how come crossover don't never

1200
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 2: cross over to us? Crossover ain't nothing but a double cross?

1201
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 2: Like where like, where's the benefit for us that you

1202
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 2: stole the dance, you know, change the name even so

1203
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 2: y'all knew to change the name because y'all knew what

1204
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: y'all were doing. Y'all didn't want to get this man

1205
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,240
Speaker 2: any credit in the room to be in the room

1206
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 2: in a lawsuit where y'all could do this. And you know,

1207
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: often and once white people come into some shit, they

1208
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: try to box you out of your own shit. So

1209
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 2: you know, I definitely can understand that feeling. And I

1210
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: hope that even if he can't win a lawsuit based

1211
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 2: on this definition of dance or whatever, I hope that

1212
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 2: he still gets compensated, just because that would be the

1213
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 2: right thing to do.

1214
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 4: Right and instead of President like, don't do this bullshit.

1215
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 3: And we're talking billion dollar game, right.

1216
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 4: And understand it, Kimmy ain't like y'all ain't making no

1217
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 4: fucking money.

1218
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 6: Every kid across America and adults are spending hundreds of

1219
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 6: hours a goddamn month on his fucking game.

1220
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: Pay people, right, Like, let's say this dance costs ninety

1221
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: nine cents. If you gave this dude nine cents a

1222
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: dance like an emoji or whatever the fuck emo nine cents,

1223
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 2: y'all would more than compensate this dude enough for him

1224
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 2: to be to go on and do whatever the fuck

1225
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 2: he wants to do in life, Like the amount of

1226
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 2: greed and corporate mouthfeasons that this shit is like super wag, right,

1227
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: and then you.

1228
01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 4: Bought up something too, And to an extent, I feel.

1229
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 6: Like this is very frustrating a lot of times in

1230
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 6: certain situations, niggas don't want white people there when it

1231
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 6: comes to certain things. They go, no, no, we don't

1232
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 6: want y'all making y'all fucked up rules, fucked up regulations.

1233
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 3: Right, ruin it right.

1234
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 6: We don't want y'all telling us what we can and

1235
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,439
Speaker 6: cannot do. Because what you're gonna strip the freedom out

1236
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 6: of it. You're gonna slip, strip the flavor out of it.

1237
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 6: You're gonna strip everything and make this ship specially, you're

1238
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 6: gonna strip the ship to even close you to come

1239
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 6: here in the first place, and it's gonna be dull

1240
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 6: and it's gonna be barren.

1241
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Because a lot of times I feel like the

1242
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 2: way that white people that interlope into other cultures come

1243
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 2: at things, it's like, how do I monetize this right?

1244
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: How do I how do we make this where we

1245
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 2: can manufacture many different versions of it.

1246
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 3: You know.

1247
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 2: It's a difference between that and like empowering somebody, you know,

1248
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 2: coming in and being like, how do we make this

1249
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 2: so that you can do whatever your dream was with

1250
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: this dance or with this music or with this shop

1251
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: or whatever. Most people don't come at it from that angle.

1252
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 2: They come at it from the how do we take

1253
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 2: what you do and make get a cookie cutter, like

1254
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: sell as many possible A T shirts as possible?

1255
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 6: Right, And it's a cut copy paste, And it's one

1256
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 6: of those things with a lot of black people that

1257
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 6: frustrates them when they'll look at other people. And that's

1258
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 6: why that nigger fishing thing. People will live it because

1259
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 6: it was like it's nigga's shape like this, and they

1260
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 6: can't get a dime, They can't get it, they can't

1261
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 6: get no right.

1262
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 3: As damn right.

1263
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 4: They're not everywhere. But yet you get somebody.

1264
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,760
Speaker 6: That's not even from the culture, don't even come from this,

1265
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 6: you ain't even got them American and people are throwing

1266
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 6: dollars at them.

1267
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 3: And that's the part that frustrates people.

1268
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, like how somebody like yes Jewels can be famous

1269
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 2: for being a white girl that has a big ass,

1270
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: even when she says something racist or something fucked up.

1271
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 2: You got a lot of black men that take care

1272
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 2: of her, take pictures with her, have her at their concerts.

1273
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: She doesn't have any talent. She just got a big booty.

1274
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 3: That's it.

1275
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 2: She's a white girl with a big booty, and they

1276
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 2: will let her come into the culture just on some

1277
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 2: like look at this rare unicorn, as if there aren't white,

1278
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: big booty white girls all over the fucking world. But like,

1279
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 2: look at this rare unicorn coming into our space as

1280
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 2: opposed to if it was just some random, big booty

1281
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 2: black woman. It's she gotta be some type of hole,

1282
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: she gotta be some type of thoughts, she gotta be

1283
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 2: some type of like that's just a bit you don't respect,

1284
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: you know. That's it's it's the difference, you know, right, And.

1285
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,479
Speaker 6: That's why I don't hate on uh nobody for quote

1286
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 6: unquote being talent less and making that money.

1287
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 3: I don't.

1288
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 4: I don't.

1289
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 3: Things like that don't bother me.

1290
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, But like I said, yes, jewels will be worshiped

1291
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: in a way that you know, a black woman of

1292
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 2: similar like the similar lane would not be She'd just

1293
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: be an Instagram or some shit, right, And it's.

1294
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 4: Not the fact that it don't bother me.

1295
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 6: I think I'm like this, it don't bother me when

1296
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 6: brown people do it, because I'm like, hey, white folks

1297
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 6: do this all the time, right, black girl.

1298
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 3: Nothing, I'm not bothered by it either.

1299
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 2: I'm just more saying like there's a racial element to it, right,

1300
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 2: that is uplifting for certain people, you know, as opposed

1301
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 2: to others. It's like, what are they doing?

1302
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 3: You know? Anyway? A hundred for me? That shame with

1303
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 3: you fortnite right.

1304
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 4: The breaking company in the fucking world right, now, come on, you.

1305
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: Got more money than God and you're trying to be

1306
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: private off of the MILLI rock And I don't know

1307
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 2: what the other dances are, so who knows.

1308
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1309
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 2: Maybe the Hammer Dance or some of the Running Man

1310
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 2: is on there and no one's gonna look and find

1311
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 2: out who made that and give them money.

1312
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

1313
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 2: But this ship, this is a dance from four years ago.

1314
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 2: It ain't that hard to find out who made it.

1315
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 2: It ain't after him.

1316
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 3: So there's a girl who was on Doctor phil Uh.

1317
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 2: She is a clearly a black girl, and she became

1318
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 2: a meme this last.

1319
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 3: Week when we were we just didn't get to it.

1320
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people take issue with my beliefs.

1321
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm white, I'm a Caucasian because everything about me is

1322
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: different from an African American. I have naturally straight hair.

1323
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 1: My hair isn't nappy, it doesn't require we My nose

1324
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: is not giant.

1325
01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: It's like and like, I guess the joke I they're

1326
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 2: not joking on Doctor Phil. They think they treat it

1327
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 2: like it's serious, but they know that it is a joke.

1328
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 2: I guess the thing is, she's so it's so ridicted.

1329
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 2: She obviously has a perm like she for her. My

1330
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 2: hair is straight, like we know it's not if she

1331
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 2: took a fucking like they should say, just hop in

1332
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 2: the pool real quick, then come on, just hopping in

1333
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,919
Speaker 2: the pool, hop right back out. We'll see how straight

1334
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 2: it is. Let it sit for about thirty minutes, let

1335
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: the sun drive, and then we'll discussion about how straight.

1336
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 3: Your hair is.

1337
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 2: You know, her saying I'm white, she's obviously like a

1338
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: brown skin, darker, brown skin, black woman. I mean, it's

1339
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 2: just one of.

1340
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 3: Those the lies, the lies.

1341
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 2: Right, It's just one of those like, I think one

1342
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: of those things where they're trying to be controversial by

1343
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 2: putting on on that they go, oh, this person must

1344
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 2: be crazy.

1345
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 3: So I don't know if she came.

1346
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 2: Off necessarily crazy, but it's kind of like the catch

1347
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: me outside thing. You know, let's show a bad child.

1348
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 2: Here's a here's a child that won't listen to the mother.

1349
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 2: We need to put her on TV. Now that you

1350
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 2: can't find one of these in every family dollar, come on,

1351
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 2: it's not like you can't just go to the toy

1352
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,560
Speaker 2: Sta lies.

1353
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: All right, African Americans, my lips are perfect. They're not

1354
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: too big and they're not too small. They're just perfect.

1355
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 1: My ears, I don't have black people ears because they're really.

1356
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 3: Black people ears. Is that a thing?

1357
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 4: I mean, what is we got?

1358
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 3: Damn dumbo. I don't understand this.

1359
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 2: I've never That's the one thing I've never considered. I've

1360
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 2: never looked at the air and been like, now that's

1361
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 2: a black year.

1362
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know.

1363
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: I told you about them, nigger ears, right, giant Most

1364
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: African Americans speak ghetto. Well when it comes to black people,

1365
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: I think they're all ugly and I have nothing in

1366
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 1: common with them I'm different from African Americans because I'm white.

1367
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 1: My figures just like Kim Kardashian, And she's a wonderful

1368
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: role model.

1369
01:06:56,080 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 2: I actual obviously everything she says live. So just you

1370
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 2: haven't seen this woman on social media. Just everything she's

1371
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: saying is not true. Yeah, because looking at her, she

1372
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 2: has big black lips.

1373
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 3: She is not shaped like Kim kardashianan anyway.

1374
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 1: And I think like a white person instead of a

1375
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 1: black person. I believe that I'm completely and utterly better

1376
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: than them, Like we're on two different levels, Like, okay,

1377
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: African Americans are here, I'm here white.

1378
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 2: And then the other thing is she appears to be

1379
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 2: trying to talk white, not very successfully, you know, like

1380
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 2: it's just like it sounds like she's trying to use

1381
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 2: her like.

1382
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 3: Interview voice.

1383
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 2: But like if she called you on the phone talking

1384
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: just like this, she'd be like, why is this black

1385
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 2: woman so racist against herself?

1386
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

1387
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 2: It's not like I know people hate that there's no

1388
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 2: such thing as talking black.

1389
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 3: Well, I'm sorry, but that's a lie.

1390
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 2: You definitely can hear the black and a lot of

1391
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 2: people when they're talking. You know, there's people that get

1392
01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 2: off on being mistaken for not black. But there's some

1393
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: that you can kind of tell sometimes most of the

1394
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 2: time really, but yeah, she's.

1395
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 3: Raisically trying to sound like a white person.

1396
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 2: But my mouth to God's ears, I really hate those

1397
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 2: nigga rattes and anyone else.

1398
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,240
Speaker 4: Really that doesn't have pure white Arian blood running through

1399
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 4: their veins talking about true white American God.

1400
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 3: Bless white America.

1401
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen this movie Black Black Can cank Land Woman,

1402
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 2: Black Clans Woman.

1403
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 3: We've seen this.

1404
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: Okay, people act and think just way more mature than

1405
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 1: African Americans. Black people, they think in a criminal way.

1406
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:45,360
Speaker 1: When I think about African Americans, I feel like asking

1407
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 1: them what is wrong with them? They're really dangerous. If

1408
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: African American is on the same street as I am

1409
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: across the street to avoid their chaotic, stuggish ways.

1410
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:55,799
Speaker 3: Are you okay?

1411
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm irritated.

1412
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:57,839
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

1413
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: I just know that I'm white. I mean, he might

1414
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: not know that I'm white, but I know that I'm whack.

1415
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: I can feel it through my face, I feel to

1416
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: my blood. I tell my mom, I'll never be like

1417
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: any of those negroes.

1418
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,719
Speaker 4: That's a lot. I'll never be like any of those negroes.

1419
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 3: That's that tobias coming out of her.

1420
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 1: I know, right, that's my show criticized me about my

1421
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: supposed race. I tell her, she's just ignorant. There's nothing

1422
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: wrong with my views or beliefs because I have freedom

1423
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: of speech and everything I'm saying is true.

1424
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 3: All right.

1425
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 2: So then they go on and have doctor Phil interview

1426
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 2: her and all this shit.

1427
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,759
Speaker 4: How old is she?

1428
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 3: She's twenty five years old.

1429
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 2: It sounds like, okay, most people were in disbelieve that

1430
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 2: a black girl can over such so much self hate

1431
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 2: towards other black people, but knowing is in more oh wait,

1432
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 2: more disbelief than her twenty five year old sister, Nina Richards.

1433
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 2: Wait wait more believed?

1434
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 3: Oh no, she's twenty five years old. Her name is

1435
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 3: Nina Richards.

1436
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 4: Who's the sister to keep pop it up?

1437
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 3: Let me see, Let me read this sentence again.

1438
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 2: I think I'm understanding that most people weren't disbelieved that

1439
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 2: a black girl can harbor so much self hate towards

1440
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 2: other black people, But no.

1441
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 4: One, huh, go ahead, finish the sys.

1442
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 2: Sorry, but no one was in more disbelief than twenty

1443
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 2: five year old Nina Richards who's her older sister. So

1444
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 2: Treasure is actually younger than her. Okay, she's sixteen years old. Okay,

1445
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 2: So what I will say, I'm not surprised she picked

1446
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 2: up on a lot of this language and shit in

1447
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,160
Speaker 2: this current climate.

1448
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,480
Speaker 3: Hello, I mean a lot of stuff is textbook.

1449
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 2: What white people are Republicans and social media says about

1450
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 2: black people all the time. I think, much like Candice Owens,

1451
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 2: is very easy to just adopt the white racist speaking

1452
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: points and go on TV because they're such simple.

1453
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 3: Overt racists, Like it's just such simple.

1454
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 2: Things, like they're thuggish ways and like all that shit

1455
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 2: she was saying. So I don't find that to be

1456
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 2: kind of that surprising. I think it sucks more that

1457
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 2: doctor phil would give somebody like this a platform in

1458
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 2: order to exploit them.

1459
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 3: I know that's what he does for a living. But

1460
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:11,959
Speaker 3: that's why you really just can't.

1461
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 2: Respect that dude, because this kind of shit is very

1462
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,799
Speaker 2: hurtful to a lot of people. And while while it's funny,

1463
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 2: I'll laugh at it, but there's also some tragedy here

1464
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 2: in real life.

1465
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:25,559
Speaker 3: She apparently.

1466
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 2: So her sister interview with Essence, and she said that

1467
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 2: Treasure and her mother just only wanted to go on

1468
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: the show because they want a free trip to LA

1469
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 2: and to become a meme online. I knew they were

1470
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 2: going to LA, but I didn't know what it was about,

1471
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 2: Nina said when asked she knew about that Doctor philipparents

1472
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 2: they told us that they weren't allowed to say what

1473
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 2: show was about.

1474
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 3: I thought it was something she actually did in her

1475
01:11:50,040 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 3: real life.

1476
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: If my real life, Nina means Treasure is currently on

1477
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 2: the run from Michigan's Child Protective Services after dropping out.

1478
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 3: Of school and becoming a water state.

1479
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 2: Oh right, there's always some real traged behind the shit,

1480
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 2: and Doctor Phil's willing exploited. Treasure stopped going to school

1481
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 2: for a long time, very long time. She's into a

1482
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 2: lot of craziness. She puts herself out there. She has

1483
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 2: all these hustles, she's banned from CVS, She's done a lot. Yeah,

1484
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 2: when it comes to Treasure's appearance on Doctor Phillip, definitely

1485
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 2: wasn't something the sixteen year old orchestrated on her own.

1486
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 2: Nina says her mother wanted the free trip and her

1487
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 2: brother was basically a loan for the ride or what

1488
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 2: pisses Nana off even more is that her deceased father's

1489
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 2: name and reputation was ruined. William Richards I'm sorry, who

1490
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 2: was a white man, died in two thousand and six.

1491
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 2: It had his photo shown on national television. Monique apparently

1492
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: lied about the fact that Treasure never knew he wasn't

1493
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 2: her biological father. According to Nina, her siblings always knew

1494
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 2: he wasn't their biological father, but he was the one

1495
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 2: who raised them. They disgraced my dad, who I love dearly.

1496
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,640
Speaker 2: I haven't spoken to my mom since the episode, and

1497
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 2: my mom and I have had a relationship very rocky

1498
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 2: because she's done a lot of evil stuff.

1499
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 3: Treasure always knew who her biological.

1500
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: Dad was, and when it came to daddy William, he

1501
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,719
Speaker 2: was a very loving and kind man. All that narrative

1502
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 2: of her not knowing she wasn't white, it's fake. He

1503
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 2: loved us and with such a loving person, and seeing

1504
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 2: his picture, his picture slapped all over television was a disgrace. Also,

1505
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 2: it's fake that Treasure, the fact that Treasure says the

1506
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 2: Treasure says she hates anything that's to do with black people,

1507
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 2: that's fake. If you took a look at Treasure's Facebook page.

1508
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 2: You can clearly see she has black friends and even

1509
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: wrote about supporting Black Lives matter. And guess who else

1510
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 2: might have known about treasuring her family being a fraud.

1511
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 2: An unnamed producer Doctor Phil Show, who left the comment

1512
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,680
Speaker 2: on her now to lead at Facebook, posts it's a

1513
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 2: disgrace to our family and our race. We are a

1514
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 2: black family, very black with Detroit black. Oh man, that's

1515
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 2: pretty black. For my mom to allowdest is a mind

1516
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 2: fuck to all of us. Doctor Phil's people didn't care,

1517
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 2: did not care. They wanted to spend this narrative. This

1518
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,600
Speaker 2: is why I believe everyone on that show.

1519
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 3: Staff is racist.

1520
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: Doctor Phil corrected my sister for saying retard is a

1521
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 2: derogatory word, but never corrected her for saying niggers. Nina

1522
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 2: continued as a proud makeup artists whup promotes black beauty.

1523
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 2: Offended me to hear my sister talk about black people

1524
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: the way she did. My mom raised me to be

1525
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 2: a proud black woman, and the love of the culture.

1526
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 3: Was always there. Shit. She said, she calls CPS too.

1527
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 2: She needs to do hard time in Julie and sit

1528
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 2: down and be in the control area. She doesn't want

1529
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 2: help from a regular family household. Being in a control

1530
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: area as is for her own good because there are

1531
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 2: people who want to hurt her now. People online have

1532
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 2: been sending her death threats and want to know where

1533
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 2: she lives. People from her school know where she is.

1534
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 2: Her life is a stake at this point.

1535
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're on TV house. She wanted to be

1536
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 3: the famous site.

1537
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,439
Speaker 6: That's some people's goal, like that your own TV now

1538
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 6: with like most people don't make money off of that shit.

1539
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And what's even wilder is like the cash me

1540
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 2: outside girl rose to fame and start them off of

1541
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 2: doing something pretty fucking England as well.

1542
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 3: You know. Oh man, it's like I said, it's just

1543
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 3: sad to me, it's.

1544
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 2: Not really uh you know, I don't really like I

1545
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,759
Speaker 2: know that most people are probably gonna laugh at it,

1546
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 2: and there's some funny shit there. I'm not saying it

1547
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 2: nothing's funny, but I don't know. It's kind of more

1548
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:14,680
Speaker 2: sad than funny to me.

1549
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 3: Zero two hundred.

1550
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 4: I still give it a hundred.

1551
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.

1552
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 2: I mean, like knowing she's faking it, you think with

1553
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 2: lesson the score because it's like, oh, she faked it,

1554
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: but it kind of makes it worse.

1555
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 3: To me because it's so obviously a fake doctor.

1556
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 2: Fillingham just put her on TV knowing she's sixteen and

1557
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 2: she has a parent that's complicit in this shit, Like

1558
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 2: who's helping her?

1559
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 3: Like, you know that's crazy, man. Yeah, it's one hundred.

1560
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:45,400
Speaker 3: I feel fucked with.

1561
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 2: I can't lie, all right. Uh, let's do one more.

1562
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 2: Uh report Black women less likely to be promoted and

1563
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 2: supported by their managers.

1564
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.

1565
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 3: I believe that.

1566
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 2: One hundred, one hundred researcher survey two hundred and seventy

1567
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 2: nine companies employ more than thirteen million people and talk

1568
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 2: to sixty four thousand employees on their workplace experiences.

1569
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:15,799
Speaker 3: That's a pretty vast study. That's a lot of people.

1570
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 3: More than ninety.

1571
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 2: Percent of the companies posts said they prioritize prioritizing gender

1572
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 2: and racial diversity leads to better business results.

1573
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1574
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,240
Speaker 2: Only forty two percent of employee survey said they see

1575
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 2: gender diversity as a company priority, and only twenty two

1576
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:34,240
Speaker 2: percent see racial diversity as a company priority. For every

1577
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:36,839
Speaker 2: one hundred men promoted the manager, only six black sixty

1578
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 2: black women are forty percent of black women have had

1579
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 2: that judgment question in their area of expertise, twenty seven

1580
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 2: percent of men have only thirty five percent of black

1581
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 2: women said that manager promotes their contributions to others.

1582
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 3: Forty six percent of men said their managers does, and forty.

1583
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 2: One percent of black women said they never have a

1584
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,680
Speaker 2: substantive interaction with the senior leader about their work. Just

1585
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 2: twenty seven percent of men said that if you're a

1586
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:09,000
Speaker 2: black woman, working, black working woman in your fifties and sixties,

1587
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 2: and these stats reflect your personal experience, it's understandable why

1588
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 2: your frustration level is high.

1589
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 3: What's worse.

1590
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 2: According to the US Census Bureau, while a full time

1591
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 2: working woman earned about eighty cents on every dollar a

1592
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 2: man dead, a full time working black woman earned sixty

1593
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 2: seven per cents for every dollar.

1594
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 6: And this is why black women, particularly a lot of

1595
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 6: older black women, some younger but older Black women are

1596
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,439
Speaker 6: breaking out and being entrepreneurs because they're like, oh, the

1597
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 6: system is rigged, this is the bullshit.

1598
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 4: You know what, I'm gonna be my own goddamn boss.

1599
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 4: You know who I'm gonna cater to us?

1600
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, also, you can be.

1601
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 2: Overly qualified for the shit you get anyway, right, So

1602
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 2: it's like they wait until it's undeniable. They have to

1603
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: give you this promotion or give you this position or

1604
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 2: this job, because it's like, shit, you're above this station.

1605
01:17:58,800 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 3: In life already.

1606
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 2: Like black women never get promoted too early, you know

1607
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 2: what I mean, it's always too late, right right, So

1608
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 2: I think that's a big difference. And then, yeah, that's

1609
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 2: the one hurdle you don't face as often, not that

1610
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 2: you don't face any but you don't face it as

1611
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 2: often when you're in business for yourself. It's because you

1612
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 2: can kind of cut out that person over you that's

1613
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 2: deciding when and where.

1614
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 4: You get to be, you know, right, you can make

1615
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:22,839
Speaker 4: your own decision.

1616
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 6: And the Internet has allowed that, And that's one thing

1617
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 6: that I do love about that because, like you said,

1618
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 6: particularly if you're expertise in the field, that's the shit

1619
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 6: that really pisses black women off. I got a degree,

1620
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 6: I got my doctorate, PhD. Whatever is I know. I've

1621
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 6: been doing this shit for fifteen to twenty years.

1622
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 4: I know more than you know. Boss or manager.

1623
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:46,440
Speaker 6: You come to me to ask me about my expertise,

1624
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 6: and then you act like I don't know what I'm

1625
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 6: talking about.

1626
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 3: All right, one hundred same.

1627
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 4: Now that it's time for some guests the race.

1628
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 2: That's right, This guess the race time? Now, that is

1629
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 2: time for some guess the race.

1630
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 3: That's right, this guess the race time. That's right. It's

1631
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 3: time for guess the race.

1632
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 2: The number one game going across all the podcastslan where

1633
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 2: we read the play news artist from all over the

1634
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 2: globe and we asked our contestants today Karen and the

1635
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 2: chat room two guests uhorays and of course the chat

1636
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: room and plays along and everyone involved is racist.

1637
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,719
Speaker 3: All right, Let's get to the first game.

1638
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,679
Speaker 2: A software engineer who lives with life sized dolls told

1639
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 2: to stay away from a school friend that he tracked down.

1640
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 2: An obsessed engineer who stalked the woman who he had

1641
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 2: fallen in love with fifty years earlier, has been landed

1642
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: with a five year restraining order after he pursued her

1643
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 2: once again. Everard Coonian, sixty two years old, admitted to

1644
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 2: stalking Julie Taylor once Julie Allen since he never got

1645
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 2: over her despite having not seen her since they left

1646
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:07,840
Speaker 2: school in nineteen seventy two, the lifelong bachelor decided to

1647
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 2: try and get back in touch with her. Earlier this year,

1648
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 2: at the losing his job made him reevaluate what was

1649
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 2: important in life.

1650
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,040
Speaker 3: He thought he was gonna start in a wrong come,

1651
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:18,759
Speaker 3: the court heard.

1652
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 2: The court heard he had hurt her while at school,

1653
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 2: but details over there falling out were not given. Hurt

1654
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 2: her mister Coonian, who lives with nine life sized dolls

1655
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 2: at his home in christ Church, Dorset. Oh, so he's

1656
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 2: a real keeper. He researched births, deaths, and marriage registers

1657
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:42,000
Speaker 2: in order to find missus Taylor and obtained her wedding photo.

1658
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 2: What I liked that. That's the first time you said

1659
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 2: what I feel like. Every sentence of this has been

1660
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: what it has obsess. Coonian also turned up at her

1661
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,679
Speaker 2: old family home, where her eighty eight year old.

1662
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 3: Mother, Georgina Allen, still live.

1663
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 2: Although Mean was told to leave, he went to s

1664
01:21:02,240 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: went on to send eight letters addressed to Miss Taylor

1665
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 2: to her mother's address. He also went jogging past her

1666
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 2: mother's house every day over a four month period, and

1667
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 2: once even followed a woman he thought might be Miss

1668
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 2: Taylor from the property. Wow, Miss Taylor, I don't know

1669
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 2: what this knee Allen?

1670
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:20,839
Speaker 3: Oh?

1671
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 2: Oh, Miss Taylor did not respond, I guess formal formerly

1672
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 2: Miss Allen did not respond to his letters, but she did.

1673
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 2: She and her mother became concerned when Cooniean made a

1674
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 2: joke about kidnapping her in.

1675
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 3: One in one of the letters, and then there's pictures

1676
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 3: of him with his nine doll wives.

1677
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 6: Because could you imagine somebody who has a similar name.

1678
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:49,480
Speaker 6: I mean you went through death records, birth records?

1679
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 3: Wow?

1680
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 6: Could he probably went through hundreds of women because there's

1681
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 6: a lot of people coming they have the same names.

1682
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 2: Miss Taylor from christ Church Doorset reported the IT software

1683
01:21:59,240 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 2: Jene to the police. Coonyan initially denied his behavior amounted

1684
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,839
Speaker 2: to harassment, but admitted one charge of stalking Miss Taylor's

1685
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 2: sixty two years old, and want of harassing her mother.

1686
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:10,560
Speaker 2: He was sentenced to one hundred and twenty hours of

1687
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,640
Speaker 2: unpaid work and ten rehabilitation days, as well as the

1688
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 2: five year restraining order which prevents him from contacting Miss

1689
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,479
Speaker 2: Taylor or her mother and limited entry to Miss Allen's road.

1690
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 2: After his previous hearing, Coonian said he felt stupid over

1691
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 2: the matter. He said, I upset her Miss Taylor when

1692
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 2: I was at school, and it haunted me for fifty years.

1693
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 2: I was determined to try and find out she was okay,

1694
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 2: but clearly I alarmed her. I wanted to find a

1695
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 2: way to make it up to her. Girls have to

1696
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 2: be able to reject guys that don't they don't want,

1697
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 2: and those guys have to accept that. For some reason,

1698
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:45,759
Speaker 2: I have not really been able to. It's a shame

1699
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 2: and I do, really, I do feel really stupid about

1700
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 2: the whole thing.

1701
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:50,879
Speaker 3: He sounds so dangerous.

1702
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:56,759
Speaker 2: At the earlier hearing, Prosecutor Lee Turner explained Konyan's unrequited

1703
01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: love for Miss Taylor began when he went to school

1704
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 2: with her between.

1705
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 3: Nineteen sixty eight nineteen seventy two.

1706
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 2: He said they last saw each other on the last

1707
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 2: day of school in nineteen seventy two. He wrote a

1708
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 2: letter to her in the early nineteen seventies, but it

1709
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 2: didn't reach her as her mother burnt it, and in

1710
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy eight she received a letter from him, but disused,

1711
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 2: disposed of it.

1712
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 3: And didn't reply. Take the hint, bro, what fuck your

1713
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 3: sex dollars and leave it alone? Isn't that what that for?

1714
01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 2: In May this year, he went to an old family

1715
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 2: home and the door was askedered by her eighty eight

1716
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 2: year old mother. He started asking questions about her daughter,

1717
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,120
Speaker 2: and she immediately recognized him as the male who used

1718
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 2: to have an infatuation.

1719
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 3: With her daughter at school.

1720
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 2: He tried to give her a letter, but she said

1721
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 2: no one shut the door. A couple of days later

1722
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 2: post arrived addressed to Julia al and her maiden name

1723
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 2: of detailing how much he wanted to get in touch.

1724
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 2: He sent a further seven letters in May, June, July,

1725
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 2: August and September. He had made reference to some gates

1726
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 2: that the mother had only just installed, and she started worrying.

1727
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 3: And he was watching the property right.

1728
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 2: The letter started off short and overtime became lengthier and

1729
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 2: more rambled. The fifth letter in August call her to

1730
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 2: forne the police as he made reference to one to

1731
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 2: kidnap her. It was written in lighthearted way, saying his

1732
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,840
Speaker 2: kidnapping days are done, but it calls her alarm.

1733
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 4: But then do we need to go see other women

1734
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:11,320
Speaker 4: you've kidnapped from nineteen fifty two.

1735
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 2: He also made reference to having researched her and no

1736
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 2: new little non private details and the letter is said

1737
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 2: to me detailed an incident where he followed the female

1738
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:21,879
Speaker 2: leaving the address on foot.

1739
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 3: Believing it was Julie, it wasn't.

1740
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 2: She never replied to any letters. James Moore, defending previously, said,

1741
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 2: Coonian intended no malice.

1742
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 3: What well, what else is this? Even your harassment is malice,

1743
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 3: he said.

1744
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 2: Redundancy called him to take stock of his life, and

1745
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 2: all he wanted to do was see if he could

1746
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:43,280
Speaker 2: rekindle friendship with her. He realized that it's not going

1747
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 2: to happen, and since the arrest he hasn't engaged in

1748
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 2: any behavior like this with Juliet. Well, you know, let's

1749
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 2: give it another fifty years, maybe he will. Anyway, I

1750
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 2: guess the race of.

1751
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:58,840
Speaker 3: Mister Coonian killer stalker white.

1752
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's check the chatroom see what they believe. Uh,

1753
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 2: the unsub is a middle age white male, possibly has

1754
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 2: dolls in the freezer. Recoon wait, unrecoon night love white

1755
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:25,439
Speaker 2: white breath, you take white white only white only white

1756
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 2: man could excuse the stockery, creepy, dangerous behavior of another

1757
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 2: white man. White white. Also, the dolls probably look like

1758
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 2: her white. The correct essa is white. Y'all want to

1759
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 2: see the creepy man and his dolls?

1760
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 3: I guess I want.

1761
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 2: To know when he got these professional photos taken, because

1762
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 2: these are very professional photos, Like he had a shoot

1763
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 2: at his house with him and his dolls.

1764
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 4: Like, oh, was he taking in and out of what

1765
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:08,559
Speaker 4: is happening here?

1766
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 3: Like was he sending these pictures to her?

1767
01:26:11,720 --> 01:26:11,840
Speaker 2: Like?

1768
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 3: Look, this is me and my other bitches. You could

1769
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:17,800
Speaker 3: be here, I mean, this could be playing right, you

1770
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 3: could be here. You could be here with.

1771
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 6: Me gown mm hmm, I like the other one, I'll

1772
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 6: be watching you.

1773
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:30,679
Speaker 4: Wow.

1774
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:32,679
Speaker 3: Oh this shit is fucking creepy.

1775
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 2: Look he took one of these dolls out to a

1776
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 2: restaurant with actual people in it.

1777
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 3: Sir? Why is no one supposed to notice?

1778
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 6: Like?

1779
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 3: What does this mean? Do you carry the doll in

1780
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:43,599
Speaker 3: with you?

1781
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 4: You got too hot the doll itself?

1782
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 3: Also, what doll would what woman would dress like this?

1783
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 2: She's outside by the fence, wearing the skimpiest of lingerie.

1784
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:57,120
Speaker 3: Right up to the chother she got USh.

1785
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:01,000
Speaker 2: Your gloves on right, pearls in here holding the rake

1786
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,680
Speaker 2: that she can't use come on, which is why the

1787
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 2: rake has spiderweb ubs on it. Sir, this picture here,

1788
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 2: I'm like you, gott you let a professional take these pictures?

1789
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 2: He had you thought this was okay to tell people?

1790
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,839
Speaker 2: This is he just laid one in the bed fully closed.

1791
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:21,240
Speaker 2: That's the way we're having sex with him.

1792
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 3: What you thought this was? Okay?

1793
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,920
Speaker 2: I bet all these dolls are just heard different ages.

1794
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 2: And there's twenty five year old her and that's her

1795
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 2: when she's sad and alone after I die.

1796
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 3: Oh God.

1797
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:42,080
Speaker 4: And nobody was like, sir, go to jail, Go all

1798
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 4: the way to jail.

1799
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 3: Apparently not and think this is dangerous enough. He needed

1800
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 3: to put his hands on him. Yeah, he needed to.

1801
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 2: Literally threaten her or something like that. Here's another creepy dude.

1802
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 2: A man put items behind women's car tires in order

1803
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 2: to watch them. Police said, what yep, A sagginaw man. Uh,

1804
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, saggonaw Michigan, a chessing A chessinging man with

1805
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: a history of stalking women in parking lots is charged

1806
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 2: again with a crime, one that could land him in

1807
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 2: prison for years.

1808
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 6: Against Basically, what we have here are victims who calls

1809
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 6: the report that they felt they were being stalked and

1810
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 6: creeped out, said Sheriff Bill feederspiel.

1811
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:28,639
Speaker 5: Uh.

1812
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 2: The individual was placed and was placing items underneath the

1813
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 2: tires of women's vehicles, stalking them in parking lots, watching

1814
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 2: them picking out victims. He'd wait for them to go

1815
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:41,400
Speaker 2: into the store, then place an item under the tire,

1816
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 2: then go back to his car, where he would have.

1817
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 3: A good advantage point.

1818
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:47,679
Speaker 2: When the women would return to their vehicles and start

1819
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 2: to drive away, they run over the items to get

1820
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,439
Speaker 2: out and bend over to investigate. The man in question,

1821
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:55,799
Speaker 2: identified by Debutie's a forty three year old Kirk M. Fulton,

1822
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 2: would watch them from his vehicle at times with binoculars.

1823
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: That's the pervious most effort shit I've ever heard of

1824
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:05,839
Speaker 2: in my life.

1825
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 4: Men are fucking scary.

1826
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 3: That's the scariest shit to look at. Some butts. Listen.

1827
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:14,000
Speaker 2: I love butts, Okay, I like I told y'all. If

1828
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 2: I'm a Teina Belcher, all right, I am into but

1829
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 2: I They're my phase.

1830
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 3: Okay.

1831
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 2: My own instagram is butts comber Pages, Butts love butts.

1832
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: This is so far and beyond the call of duty.

1833
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 2: When you want to look at some booty, it's really

1834
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 2: disgusting to know.

1835
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,960
Speaker 4: That this person is here, is my body, look at it?

1836
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 2: Things I have never thought to myself. Let me go

1837
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 2: disturb this woman's day so I can look at her.

1838
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 3: But that's what I'm gonna do. Disturb.

1839
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,120
Speaker 2: Let me put a coke bottle behind your car for

1840
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 2: the three seconds that it takes to bend over and

1841
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:48,600
Speaker 2: look at the coke bottle and go oh okay my

1842
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 2: tires okay for the three seconds.

1843
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 3: That's just I'm gonna get by. But binocular is my nigga.

1844
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,400
Speaker 4: Which means you want that good look you looking.

1845
01:29:56,160 --> 01:29:59,160
Speaker 3: Like you don't steak out for some for some butts,

1846
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,400
Speaker 3: What is you up? What is you up high?

1847
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 4: Up high at the NFL football game trying to see

1848
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:04,599
Speaker 4: the field.

1849
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,160
Speaker 2: Right, This dude was on butt steak out a little

1850
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 2: fucking telescope to look at some butts.

1851
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 3: Like, dude, join the gym or something. I don't know,

1852
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 3: come out on gym yoga class.

1853
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,679
Speaker 2: I mean walk around the ball like I told y'all,

1854
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 2: get your creep in line like like like doing it

1855
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:22,759
Speaker 2: for all the creeps.

1856
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 4: Dudes don't know.

1857
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 6: You can look at all the ass you want to.

1858
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 6: We we and we're working out. As long as you

1859
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 6: don't creep us out. You can look at all the

1860
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:33,439
Speaker 6: ass you want to. We know we are in here

1861
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 6: and skip it clothes.

1862
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 3: It's hot.

1863
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 4: We try to exercise. Yeah, we all squat and is sweating.

1864
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 3: Yeah cool.

1865
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 2: I mean obviously this guy would would not be able

1866
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 2: to handle it, but he would.

1867
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 3: But just in general, butts are everywhere, is my point.

1868
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:48,639
Speaker 4: Yes, and women they got them.

1869
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like women are walking around like I

1870
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 2: don't have a butt, Like, oh my god, when did

1871
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 2: they get there? It's you that makes it weird with

1872
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,200
Speaker 2: your whole like I don't look at all that.

1873
01:30:58,120 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 3: Ass like it's you.

1874
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 2: It's you going let me put something in your way

1875
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:05,000
Speaker 2: so you can bend over. That's the violation of the

1876
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 2: of the unspoken rules of somebody got some button.

1877
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 3: That's it.

1878
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 6: Google got plenty of big butts on it, filter off,

1879
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 6: you can see all that.

1880
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:16,679
Speaker 2: Go just get a some what acount of look at butts?

1881
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go go on Instagram. There's

1882
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 2: so many women on Instagram who just like, look at

1883
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 2: my butt. This is my life, this is what I

1884
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 2: do for a living. I just I am paid. I

1885
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 2: advertised flat tummy tea and look at my butt.

1886
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 3: That's it.

1887
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 2: And this motherfucker really was like, you know what I

1888
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 2: really need to do. I need to go with some

1889
01:31:34,840 --> 01:31:36,760
Speaker 2: items to put behind people's cars.

1890
01:31:37,439 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1891
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 4: I need to harass the sucker.

1892
01:31:39,479 --> 01:31:41,480
Speaker 3: Mom oh my god.

1893
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 2: Like it's still a point where there's so much butts

1894
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 2: walking around you might not even want to see butts.

1895
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 3: So now I was just walking around, like, dude, what's

1896
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 3: going on with all these butts in here?

1897
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:52,800
Speaker 2: I really just came to eat my meal, and now

1898
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 2: it's a fucking butts travaganzup come out forward and this

1899
01:31:56,920 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 2: dude is out here like, no, I'm parking outside.

1900
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 3: Of motherfucking uh uh.

1901
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,400
Speaker 2: I'm the park outside of bad bathroom, bad bathroom beyond

1902
01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 2: and put some motherfucking items behind people's cars right right.

1903
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:12,880
Speaker 4: So what the fuck?

1904
01:32:12,960 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 3: Next time I hit something, I got to.

1905
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:16,920
Speaker 4: Drive home a halfway home, I look.

1906
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 6: At it because I don't know if some freaky as

1907
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,160
Speaker 6: dudes with some binoculars two gulls.

1908
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 2: Down and you know the unspoken part of this definitely

1909
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 2: had his dick in his hand. He did definitely was

1910
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 2: jacking off to those but so yeah, they said they

1911
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 2: could not devote specifics on what led investigators two folks

1912
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 2: in apart from saying he has.

1913
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:37,719
Speaker 3: A history of engage in such conducts. It's the same

1914
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:38,479
Speaker 3: us chips.

1915
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 6: It's uts like every time he goes in he purchases Utz,

1916
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden they come out and there's

1917
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 6: twenty packages of Utz scattered across the parking lot, and

1918
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:48,600
Speaker 6: nobody fucking.

1919
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 3: Knows why he likes uts because it rhymes with but

1920
01:32:51,000 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 3: come on.

1921
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 2: It reminded us of when we heard of it, mister Fulton,

1922
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 2: because we've been down this road before. It wasn't much

1923
01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 2: of a reach for us to dig up this info

1924
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:01,639
Speaker 2: and find out where he was before.

1925
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:05,559
Speaker 6: That means that's how sad. He's on cameras somewhere, probably

1926
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 6: not just on camera.

1927
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 2: How sad is it that you are such a creed?

1928
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 2: The police was like, we don't even really need to

1929
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 2: do extra research.

1930
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 3: Who did it? Yeah?

1931
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 2: Number one suspect, ma'am, ma'am says, I hear you crying

1932
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,440
Speaker 2: a little bit, and it sounds like you've been traumatized.

1933
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this. Did he did he look

1934
01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 3: at your butt?

1935
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 6: Yes?

1936
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:32,439
Speaker 2: Okay, it's Kirk, Thank you, ma'am. We will take care

1937
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 2: of this. We know exactly where he is. Let's go

1938
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 2: to Kirk house, y'all. Since two thousand and for, at

1939
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,719
Speaker 2: least eight people in Saginaw and Jane's Counties have reported

1940
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 2: such behavior. Fourtune was charged and convicted of aggravated stalking

1941
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 2: stemming from October two thousand and seven incident in the

1942
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,559
Speaker 2: parking lot of a Jones Fabrics and Crafts.

1943
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 4: But all the women go to Seoul.

1944
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:51,879
Speaker 2: A Sagonaw County judge sentence in the five years probation,

1945
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,479
Speaker 2: but he violated it and was put into put in

1946
01:33:54,479 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 2: prison for eighteen months. He violated the butt looking probation

1947
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:02,680
Speaker 2: and went to prison for this.

1948
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,719
Speaker 4: Yeah. People coming out with needles and thread and shit

1949
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:06,280
Speaker 4: like that.

1950
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 3: What are you in for? I couldn't stop looking at but.

1951
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 6: I mean they come out with artificial flowers and I

1952
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 6: just see.

1953
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,519
Speaker 3: Ass right, your honor, But look at that ass.

1954
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:19,919
Speaker 4: I mean they coming out with tons of fabric.

1955
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 2: It's like that gift of the courtroom. Black dude, that's

1956
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:25,839
Speaker 2: like take it in a bowler or oatmeal or whatever.

1957
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 2: And then points at the camera. It looked like that's him.

1958
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 4: He was like, I can't stop looking at the asses.

1959
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:33,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't help myself, y'all.

1960
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 2: Let me go to the next section real quick because

1961
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 2: it's gonna get cut off.

1962
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 4: No problem. Like I said, it's plenty. It's plenty of asses.

1963
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:42,599
Speaker 3: Women freely.

1964
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:43,880
Speaker 4: I don't comprehend this.

1965
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 3: M he's a nope.

1966
01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,759
Speaker 4: I got to get in when they don't know what's happening.

1967
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:53,160
Speaker 2: Yep, he can't help itself buying a bunch of dollar

1968
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:54,920
Speaker 2: store items to put behind people down.

1969
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 4: Eighteen months you spent, like you said, how.

1970
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 3: Can you explain that? Go to a strip club. They're

1971
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 3: bending over right there.

1972
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,680
Speaker 4: The amount of money you spending there on chips.

1973
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 3: Stripper good, agreed. I just don't understand.

1974
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,960
Speaker 2: And I love butts like this is not you know,

1975
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 2: this is not me trying to act like, you know what,

1976
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:20,599
Speaker 2: a creepy ass guy who likes butts like everybody, not everybody,

1977
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:21,519
Speaker 2: but I love butts.

1978
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 3: We all like, there's a lot of us that love butts.

1979
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:26,679
Speaker 2: A lot of us do, and we're hit the wrong

1980
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 2: button session that's all I do. Uh, there's a lot

1981
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 2: of people but they love butts out here, a lot

1982
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,519
Speaker 2: of butt enthusiasts that are not taking it this far.

1983
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 3: Okay, creepy, creepy motherfucker. So yeah.

1984
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,240
Speaker 2: Fullton was charged to convict the acurage starin DA So okay.

1985
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:48,880
Speaker 2: Some instances, he would place VHS tapes and McDonald's cherry

1986
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:55,759
Speaker 2: pots behind women's tires, because they are cheap. I guarantee

1987
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 2: you that's why.

1988
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:00,080
Speaker 3: Let's second, she's never done this.

1989
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 4: Have I crossed it?

1990
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 2: And yeah, he would put VHS tapes and McDonald's cherry

1991
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 2: pies behind behind the.

1992
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 6: Something he knowed it would crush. And and then you know,

1993
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 6: because it was something small day you know what. I

1994
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:17,400
Speaker 6: guarantee you he tested it.

1995
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 3: Guarantee you.

1996
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,839
Speaker 6: He probably put like something small like the chicken sandwich

1997
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 6: or some shit like that, or chicken nuggets, like ship

1998
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 6: that ain't loud enough.

1999
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 3: I gotta get something that's gonna crack.

2000
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guarantee you he was playing cherry pie when

2001
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 2: he put them cherry pies down there to get the

2002
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 2: women to bend over to.

2003
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:53,880
Speaker 8: And the cherry piles was just right, yes, cherry pie.

2004
01:36:58,080 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 3: Where's that sound coming from? Come on?

2005
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 2: I went to see what's behind my time, and just

2006
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 2: some music came out of nowhere. And who's this creepy

2007
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 2: dude binoculars looking at me of nowhere?

2008
01:37:08,439 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 4: Why did McDonald's run out? Of all the cherry pies

2009
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 4: in the parking lot?

2010
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 2: Is the the ice cream machine isn't broken, but the

2011
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:16,760
Speaker 2: cherry pot machine is down.

2012
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 3: Someone came about seventy cherry pile.

2013
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 4: That's all all we made for today.

2014
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:23,880
Speaker 3: Man, that guy's awfully skinny to eat all of them

2015
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 3: cherry pies. I know, like all he orders every time.

2016
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 4: He'll ordered nothing else, nothing else off.

2017
01:37:29,720 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 2: You, Oh girl, I think I hit some hold on.

2018
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 2: Let me go check the bap tize and see what's

2019
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 2: behind us. Girl, You hear that music, what's that coming from?

2020
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:48,760
Speaker 4: I bet that that's what happened at the drivet through.

2021
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 6: Every time he pulled up, the people go, what's that

2022
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 6: music coming from the cherry pot? Man?

2023
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 2: Come, sir, get you dick out your hand and put

2024
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:59,000
Speaker 2: down the binoculars. Uh, it's disturbingated. It's because of the nature.

2025
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 2: This is very creepy on it behavior. That's the best

2026
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 2: way to describe it. Is just creepy, said the sheriffs.

2027
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 3: Uh, imagine the work.

2028
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 6: But did they send to the podcast that got to

2029
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 6: clean up all the fucking cherry pies?

2030
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 4: You fucking people rolled over.

2031
01:38:12,720 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 2: They say, hiss, bond that eighty thousand dollars cash surety

2032
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:18,439
Speaker 2: or ten percent. So he got to come up with

2033
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 2: eight thousand dollars cash to get.

2034
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 3: Out make it higher. Yeah, So the ranging the cassette

2035
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:29,800
Speaker 3: tape all right, so what does he so?

2036
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 4: What did he do?

2037
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,719
Speaker 6: Did he go and buy like all the blank cassette

2038
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 6: tapes that they got, you know, at the few places

2039
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 6: that actually sell them?

2040
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you find blank? Like, well, we don't

2041
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 2: know that blank. Maybe they were just his VHS tapes.

2042
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm assuming that you went and bought like the

2043
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 6: whole pack of twenty twenty five for two dollars, because I.

2044
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 3: Probably just went to good Will and bought all the

2045
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 3: eight tracks.

2046
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 4: Come on, all the eight tracks.

2047
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:52,799
Speaker 3: I'm like, why does this dude want all the eight tracks?

2048
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 4: I mean, sir, this isn't even good music.

2049
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:56,679
Speaker 3: What is he even playing these?

2050
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 2: Well, didn't even have an eight track in this cost

2051
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 2: a lot of disco, a lot of disco, sir.

2052
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 4: That's why we're settling them for five cent piece.

2053
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 2: Right, all right, Karen, guess the race. Karen's going white.

2054
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 2: Let's check the chat room and see what they believe.

2055
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 2: Little like mix a lot said, even white boys.

2056
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:17,679
Speaker 3: Got to shout white, says White.

2057
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 2: Even after spending time in jail, he's out and stilled

2058
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 2: at it, wild white and leave disco.

2059
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:23,360
Speaker 3: Out of it.

2060
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Jim, Okay, you know they did have songs about

2061
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:29,880
Speaker 2: booty and in disco. So I want to say it's

2062
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 2: a gateway drug to what drove him crazy? The M

2063
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 2: stands for meat beat the white The correct answer is

2064
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:51,600
Speaker 2: he is a white man. The binoculars always take me out, Like,

2065
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 2: do you know how commited to looking at some ass?

2066
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:56,639
Speaker 2: You gotta be the buy binoculars to look from your car.

2067
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 4: The headline, Yeah, what's happening here?

2068
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 3: What is happening? Indeed? Good grief?

2069
01:40:04,640 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the bonus round, double it

2070
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:22,679
Speaker 2: up and the race, double it up on saying the race,

2071
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:25,320
Speaker 2: that's right, double the points, double the race, and the

2072
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 2: bonus found a guest. The race so far, caring is

2073
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,559
Speaker 2: two for two. Let's see if she can go a

2074
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 2: smooth three for three. Man, we'll talk about so many

2075
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 2: creepy men. It makes women react sometimes, Karen, it does

2076
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:43,320
Speaker 2: rightfully so, and sometimes not rightfully so. Kiera Lagray, twenty

2077
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 2: two years old, was arrested in charge of strangling.

2078
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 3: In New York. Police said uh.

2079
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:54,479
Speaker 2: The Plattsburgh Police Department posted a video Thursday show on

2080
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 2: twenty two yard Kiara Lagrave attacking a bouncer from behind

2081
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 2: at the five one eight night club October twentieth. In

2082
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,120
Speaker 2: the video, she is seen at the bar dancing with

2083
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 2: her friend. When her friend the woman hits the Graves,

2084
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 2: but not realizing that it was her friend who touched her.

2085
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 2: The Grave spins around makes a b line for the bouncer,

2086
01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 2: who happened to be walking by the two live it.

2087
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:19,000
Speaker 2: The Grave immediately wraps her arms around the bouncer's neck.

2088
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:21,639
Speaker 2: Lagrave's friend tries to stop her, but it's too late.

2089
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:23,720
Speaker 2: Legrave and the bouncer fall and dance floor. The Grave

2090
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:26,040
Speaker 2: stands up walks away as the Bowser stays on the

2091
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:28,640
Speaker 2: ground for a few seconds before slowly get into his feet.

2092
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:34,679
Speaker 2: The Grave choked the bouncer unconscious. WHOA, that's a strong lady.

2093
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:39,679
Speaker 4: She was like, this is a xample for the next person.

2094
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 3: Don't touch me.

2095
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:47,920
Speaker 2: Apparently so oh so, yeah, she choked him unconscious. They

2096
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 2: said the bowser didn't try to stop her because he

2097
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 2: thought it was a friend playing a joke on him.

2098
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:54,800
Speaker 3: Even though it's a misunderstanding. The Grave was arrested in

2099
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 3: charge of strangling. Police said, yeah, we've got to charge

2100
01:41:58,439 --> 01:41:58,680
Speaker 3: you with that.

2101
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:03,479
Speaker 2: Guess the race of hair of Lagrave. Karen's going with black,

2102
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:06,720
Speaker 2: all right? Let's check the chat room. This behavior is

2103
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:09,280
Speaker 2: why we can't go to Bella Nochez. No more black

2104
01:42:10,479 --> 01:42:12,839
Speaker 2: black says, gonna make a lot of blacks.

2105
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:17,719
Speaker 3: Let's see. I don't see.

2106
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:19,760
Speaker 2: Any other guesses. I guess some of you are too

2107
01:42:19,880 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 2: cowardly to guess, and just you don't want to be

2108
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 2: a real person, interesting.

2109
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 3: Full Nelson black black.

2110
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:31,280
Speaker 2: Uh So it looks like everybody's going black on this

2111
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:48,360
Speaker 2: one and everyone is wrong. It's real sad to see

2112
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,640
Speaker 2: some of them. It's real sad to see some of

2113
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:53,880
Speaker 2: the ed tip blackness that people traffic.

2114
01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 3: Within my chat room.

2115
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 4: I mean, because I know her resume, she can't find

2116
01:42:59,120 --> 01:42:59,719
Speaker 4: a job.

2117
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:03,640
Speaker 2: So because she got violent, all of a sudden, she

2118
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 2: got to be a black woman. Her name, Oh because

2119
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 2: her name? So what on that black people name their kids?

2120
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 2: Kiera Lagrave Hm, oh, that's what it is. I never

2121
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:16,200
Speaker 2: said that.

2122
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 6: I'm just going based off of the stereotype I know,

2123
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 6: and I know all this white woman's resumes get trucked

2124
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:24,960
Speaker 6: in the trash. Can you not woke, Karen? Okay, I

2125
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 6: guess I'm not. Then I'm sleep.

2126
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:30,520
Speaker 2: You not woke? Okay, you're woken? This has been rejected.

2127
01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 3: You not woke everybody had done. Come on, I can't

2128
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 3: believe it.

2129
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:38,639
Speaker 4: You don't fit the stereotype, ma'am.

2130
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:40,599
Speaker 3: She's not black, Caaren Okay, she.

2131
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 1: Sure I'll never be like any of those negroes, and

2132
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 1: you sure.

2133
01:43:45,360 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 4: Ain't, ma'am.

2134
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:47,000
Speaker 3: She would never be.

2135
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:49,080
Speaker 4: One time your racism work against you.

2136
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:55,639
Speaker 2: She like hating panetary. All right, let's go to uh

2137
01:43:56,040 --> 01:44:00,240
Speaker 2: sword ratchetness. Give me damn it a second, I hit

2138
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:27,439
Speaker 2: the wrong button. Let's go to sword ratchetness. Ex NFL

2139
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 2: player Charles Rogers arrested for wilding a sword at a

2140
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 2: youth basketball event.

2141
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,160
Speaker 3: Some high stakes basketball.

2142
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 4: There for kids.

2143
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 2: He was was making terroristic threats at a youth basketball

2144
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 2: event and wilding a sword six weeks after leaving a

2145
01:44:44,520 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 2: voicemail threat and a youth football player.

2146
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 3: That's right, player, not coach.

2147
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 2: Rogers, who played five seasons in the NFL with the

2148
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:55,599
Speaker 2: Seattle Seahawks, Miami Dolphins, and Buffalo Bills. After the starting

2149
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 2: at Georgia Tech, brandishing the sword, brandished the sword during

2150
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 2: the October fifth incident at Matawan Aberdeen Middle School during

2151
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:08,520
Speaker 2: an event for parents of a local youth basketball travel team.

2152
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 2: According to the Aberdeen Police Chief, John T. Powers of

2153
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 2: forty two year old Rogers turned himself in Monday and

2154
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,639
Speaker 2: was also charge of possession of a weapon for an

2155
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 2: unlawful purpose, stalking, and unlawful possession of a weapon. He

2156
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 2: was taken to the mom Mouth County Jail in Freehold Township.

2157
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 2: The state did not seek to detain him after his

2158
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:30,360
Speaker 2: initial appearance, so he was released. The next step would

2159
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:33,160
Speaker 2: be for the mam mouths Police i mean County Prosecutor's

2160
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:36,000
Speaker 2: office to bring Chargers to a grand jury. There's been

2161
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 2: no announcement if they will perceived or if that could happen.

2162
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:41,120
Speaker 2: It's just the latest incident involving Rodgers, who played and

2163
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,720
Speaker 2: coached at Mattawaan Regional High School and also coached the

2164
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 2: Saint John Vianni High School. The erest comes eleven weeks

2165
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:52,600
Speaker 2: after Rogers, who at the time was coaching the Mattawaan

2166
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 2: American Youth football let the profanity laiden voicemail for the

2167
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 2: parent of an eleven year old player on another team,

2168
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:01,800
Speaker 2: threatening to send his players after the child until he

2169
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 2: came out of the an upcoming game. Just hours after

2170
01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 2: USA Today Network New Jersey disclosed the voicemail. September sixth,

2171
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 2: Rogers was fired from his job as the offensive coordinator

2172
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 2: of the Saint John Vanney High School.

2173
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:19,480
Speaker 3: Well he probably should have been. He was. He was also.

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Speaker 2: Suspended definitely via Jersey Shore American Youth Football, banning him

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01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:28,320
Speaker 2: from volunteering, coaching, and servant as a board member anywhere

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01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 2: near AYF in New Jersey. I agree, Well, if you

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Speaker 2: get banned from Jersey Shore, I mean you really got

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01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:36,720
Speaker 2: to get your life together, because what that team just

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01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:39,400
Speaker 2: wants to Jim tann Laundry, I mean, they're very easy.

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01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:43,519
Speaker 2: And the voicemail left for Chris Schuster, the parent of

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Speaker 2: a player who left Mattawan AYF to play for the

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01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 2: East Brunswick based Saint Bart's Buffalo's Rogers declares, at one point,

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01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 2: we are going to blitz every fucking play until your

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01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:58,120
Speaker 2: guy comes out of game. Mattawan and Saint Barts did

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01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:01,320
Speaker 2: play that regularly scheduled game against each other with our incident.

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01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 2: The voicemail could be heard by playing the video at

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01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 2: the top of the story, and the forty four second

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01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:08,799
Speaker 2: Die Tribe. Rogers, whose legal name is John Edward Rogers, says,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm pissed off about this shit right here,

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Speaker 2: and I'm telling you. I swear to God, we are

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01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:15,439
Speaker 2: going to blitz. We don't care if we get up,

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01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 2: give up a badge or not. We're blitsing everybody. We're

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01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:22,200
Speaker 2: blitting every single fucking play in something that is that

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01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 2: is bad. I guess you think that it's bad. Fuck

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01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 2: shit move. I don't know, bullshit move and I don't

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01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:31,679
Speaker 2: like it, and it's stupid moved. And we're gonna blitch

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01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 2: every single fucking play, hanging the fuck up hell every play.

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Speaker 3: Prior to being.

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Speaker 2: Hired earlier this year, the service or officer coordinator at

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01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 2: Saint John Viney under head coach John Martucci, who Rogers

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01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:47,559
Speaker 2: played for at Matawana Regional High School. Rogers serves as

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01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 2: assistant coach at Matawana under Martucci in two thousand and

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01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:52,200
Speaker 2: eight to twenty eleven.

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01:47:52,880 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 3: Oh man, what the fuck right? Mm hm hmm. I

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01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:02,400
Speaker 3: can't believe.

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01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 2: I the only thing I could think that would make

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01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 2: somebody be like this.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I hate to say it, but God be

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Speaker 3: the CTE truth, Tell the truth, Tell the truth.

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Speaker 2: All right, y'all, We'll be back tomorrow. If things go

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Speaker 2: according to plan. Okay, if things go according to plan big,

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Speaker 2: if everybody pray for us. We should have our girl

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01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:34,840
Speaker 2: Janelle James on here. Okay, she stay busy, she stay working,

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01:48:35,520 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 2: She's booked all the time. Sometimes plans change at the

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01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 2: last minute, but if everything goes is it.

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Speaker 3: Should we should have Janelle James on the show tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: So I hope, so all right until then? I love you.

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Speaker 3: Why