1 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Well, if you feel today like that first love has 2 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: faded and maybe you're struggling in your marriage, I just 3 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: want you to sit right where you are and don't 4 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: lose hope. Because Stay's guest have joined us to share 5 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: how God resurrected their broken relationship and why he wants 6 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: to do the same thing for you. But before we 7 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: get to that, join me around the table is Dorothy Newton. 8 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: How are you? 9 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 3: I'm doing so good. 10 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 4: I love this topic. 11 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: Because I'm divorced. 12 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 5: But you know what I say to all divorced single 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 5: people always, you know, glean from the ones who have 14 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 5: done it. Learn what you can because it's so important. 15 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 5: It's so important. That's how we build the kingdom, you know, 16 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 5: great marriages. 17 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you don't always have the perfect 18 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 1: fairy tale ending, but doesn't mean that God doesn't be faithful. 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: And he was so faithful to you, so faithful. 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 5: I could not be more grateful and blessed. 21 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, Itz, that's for. 22 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 2: Sure, especially with his grand babies coming on exactly. 23 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 6: We've been looking at pictures of them. 24 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just Rachel and Brown. Welcome to the table. 25 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: How are you? 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 6: I'm good and I'm so grateful for our guests today, 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 6: for their vulnerability and transparency to share, to share what 28 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 6: they've gone through, because it hasn't always been easy. And 29 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 6: you look at him now and you would never know 30 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 6: the struggle that they went through. But stories helped transform 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 6: people's lives. And when they authentically share, people are going 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 6: to find freedom and breakthrough in their marriages. And I 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 6: believe that a lot of people are going to be 34 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 6: encouraged today. 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: I believe that too. 36 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: In Cindy Murdhock, we love testimonies, don't we. 37 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: Well, I love testimonies. I was and you went through 38 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 2: a divorce. 39 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 7: But God brought someone else into my Prince came, He 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 7: came riding. 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, took my heart away. 42 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 7: And I know that God encourages all of us by 43 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 7: the stories of people that God has brought them through. 44 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 7: And I was thinking about when Jesus said to Peter, 45 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 7: now the enemy's going to really sift you. 46 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna pray for you. 47 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 7: So that when you come back, you will encourage your brothers. 48 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: And yes, no matter where you are today and some 49 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: of you watching, you've gone through a divorce, and I 50 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: want you to know God's not through. 51 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 4: With you yet. 52 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: It's not through with you. He has continued purpose and 53 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: destiny for you. 54 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: But for those of you that maybe are in a 55 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: marriage and there could be some hope for it, and 56 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: then we want to believe with you for that. Its 57 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: original and Kelly Steel are here. 58 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: Welcome the table. 59 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: We're so glad to be here, so. 60 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 2: Glad to have you here. 61 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: Well, you know, five years of selfish living nearly destroyed 62 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: Reggie Steele's marriage, but a felony charge finally brought him 63 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: to a census. 64 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: He and his wife. 65 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: Kelly join us today to share how God miraculously restored 66 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: their marriage with insights from their book. It's called Love Letters, 67 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: I Love It A through Z and Tips to make 68 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: your marriage better from A to Z. 69 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: Welcome you, guys, thank you, and thank you for. 70 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: Being here and like Rachel said, being so transparent and 71 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: sharing your story. So just kind of go back to 72 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: the beginning. You met Kelly in high school. 73 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 8: Yep, she was seventeen. P K. I'm PK. Preacher's kid. 74 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 8: She was seventeen. I was eighteen, and when she opened 75 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 8: the door, I said, oh go, you're my wife. And 76 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 8: the old noahs because already had a couple of girlfriends oh, 77 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 8: and so that was kind of my iniquity always say 78 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 8: but God, but I knew, and it was interesting because 79 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 8: I would always tell her I love you, but I 80 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 8: like them, Yes, but thank God for deliverance. 81 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: And we're going to tell the story because it is 82 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: quite an amazing story. So you raised Catholic Kelly to 83 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: tell about this relationship and how it started you. 84 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: Fall in love? 85 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 9: Well, yeah, I met him when he said you're my wife. 86 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 9: Of course I believed him, but grow woulden I'm seventeen 87 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 9: years old and he was so cute. 88 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: Oh yes, so cute I still is. 89 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 9: I'm like, yeah, absolutely, I believe you, and I was. 90 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 9: I think nine days later, I asked you, you know, 91 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 9: what are we doing? Because we saw for every day. 92 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 9: So I'm like, let's just, you know, ask me to 93 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 9: be your girlfriend. And he did and I said okay, 94 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 9: and so we started dating. But I knew he had 95 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 9: many other options. And I have to understanding I was 96 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 9: raised in a home where they were Catholic, but my 97 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 9: mom and Di divorce because of infidelity, and my mindset 98 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 9: was that my mom we just forgiven them they would 99 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 9: have stayed together. So you have to understand that background 100 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 9: on why I was so gracious before, what grace was 101 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 9: to him and his life. Thought, I'm like, if it 102 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 9: as long as i'm first, I'm okay with that. So 103 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 9: dated him that way and got pregnant before we went 104 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 9: to college. 105 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: We were both both his full right scholarship. 106 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 9: Well red scholarships me for classical music, baseball to college, 107 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,559 Speaker 9: so our futures were set. And found out that summer 108 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 9: I was pregnant. And I called them from out of 109 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 9: town and you. 110 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 2: Pick up there Reggie went happened? 111 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 8: I said, bye, who are you pregnant? But she said 112 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 8: I'm pregnant. I'm like, well it's been I've been here 113 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 8: in four weeks. 114 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 3: Oh, come on, what kind of woman do you think 115 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: I will? I was a week. 116 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 8: I was a denial, yes. 117 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 9: But the good thing was the night I called you, 118 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 9: He's like, I got something amazing to tell you, and 119 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 9: I'm like, what He's like. 120 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 3: I went to church. 121 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 9: I God saved, I got filled, the Holy goes Jesus 122 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 9: is real. I'm going to be a preacher. And I said, well, preacher, 123 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 9: I'm pregnant, and. 124 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: He was like, keep the baby. I promise I'll help you. 125 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: Isaiah is thirty two years young. Yeah, beautiful, and I said, 126 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: you can't imagine not having him, even though everything would 127 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: say there's no way you can fit this baby into 128 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: your life, and you decided to keep the baby. 129 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:42,679 Speaker 2: Was it easy? 130 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 9: No, it was very hard because my parents kicked me 131 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 9: off the house. They thought that if I got kicked out, 132 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 9: I'd have nowhere to go. But his parents were pastors, 133 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 9: so I moved in with his family, and that's how 134 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 9: I was forced into storefront pentecostal tampering, thumping, everybody's getting 135 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 9: the liver industry from being Catholic. 136 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: I didn't know what I mean, Dorothy, she did not 137 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: know what in the world she was walking into. 138 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: The next week. 139 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 9: And I was the one that I always said, They're 140 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 9: trying to push me down, and I'm like, I'm not 141 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 9: gonna fall. I'm not going to fall, and so I 142 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 9: was fighting them since it's the demon, you know, they 143 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 9: were trying to push me down, and that's I was 144 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 9: thrust into that life. 145 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: But that's where I got introduced to Jesus. 146 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 9: And at that time he was born again on fire, 147 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 9: changed his life, was living for God, stopped smoking weed, 148 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 9: stopped the women, stopped the drinking. For a season. I 149 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 9: got pregnant again with the second baby, and then I said, 150 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 9: you know, I don't want to look downb here. 151 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: You need to marry me. And we got married. 152 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 9: And that's when he said, you know what, I never 153 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 9: had fun and left the Lord for about five years. 154 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. 155 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: And I think we have that picture of when y'all 156 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: got married, both so beautiful. What in the world, Regie 157 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: is going on? 158 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: I mean, we have to. 159 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: Put it in perspective. 160 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: My my husband, who's the psychologist, said and you have 161 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: to remember, this is, you know, eighteen, nineteen, twenty year old. 162 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 3: We're talking about. 163 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: Their mindset is not that of a mature adult at 164 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: this point, right, So what happened? And what were your 165 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: parents saying, you know to you? Because all of a 166 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: sudden you have a wife and another kid on the 167 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,119 Speaker 1: way and all this responsibility. 168 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 8: It was very scary, you know, being I mean, I'm 169 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 8: already still trying to figure out who I am, you know, 170 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 8: so I'm going through what I call an identity crisis, 171 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 8: because you can grow up in church and still not 172 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 8: know who you are, and especially growing up in the church. 173 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 8: And I appreciate my parents, but it was more inspiration 174 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 8: and not a lot a whole lot of information. And 175 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 8: so over time, though I fell in love with God's word, 176 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 8: you know, got my life, got my footing, began to 177 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 8: find out really who I am. And God didn't No 178 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 8: Revelation one and six says that I'm a priest and 179 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 8: the King. You know, I didn't know that I was 180 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 8: fearfully and wonderfully made, you know. And so when I 181 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 8: began to really get to fall in love with the Word, 182 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 8: I begin to make some adjustment to my life. 183 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: That took about five years. But there was one event 184 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: that took place. And I always say this to people, Now, 185 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: don't pray this prayer, Dorothy. 186 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: Unless you really mean it. The Lord will take you 187 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: up on it. Whatever it takes. 188 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: You can pray the whatever it takes, takes, you know, 189 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: whatever it takes. 190 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: That's a serious prayer. 191 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: But at the time, you were tell everybody what you 192 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: were doing, and you got to that point, Yes, I 193 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: got to this is like almost at the end of 194 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: the five years of you believe in this is. 195 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 9: This is yeah, close to the five years of me 196 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 9: believing for him. 197 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 2: So how are you living? Tell everybody, we're living. 198 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 9: On Section eight housing, roach infested apartments, on food stamps. 199 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 9: Didn't have any communication with my parents or his because 200 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 9: we left the church, so they of course let us 201 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 9: go out there. Best thing they could have did. But 202 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 9: at the time we had no support and I had 203 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 9: radically changed my life and gave my life to Jesus. 204 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 3: I had an encounter with God. 205 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: That's so good. 206 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was. We were following. 207 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 9: I knew my marriage was falling apart, and I had 208 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 9: the babies. 209 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 3: He was never home. 210 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 9: You'd be gone for weekends at a time, and I 211 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 9: knew my world was falling apart. My Jesus was attached 212 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,479 Speaker 9: to him, so if if. 213 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: He was going to church, I would go. If he 214 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 3: didn't go, I wouldn't go. 215 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 9: So I literally idle worshiped him and I was going 216 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 9: to church, but didn't have a relationship with Jesus. Until 217 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 9: I felt like I was losing my mind. I dropped 218 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 9: the babies off to the Grandmas. I wanted to be 219 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 9: a responsible parent. Came home and started walking back and forth, 220 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 9: and the devil was telling me, your life is terrible. 221 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 9: Nothing's here, and your parents are right, and all the. 222 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: Things and those are the voices of the enemy. Yes, 223 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 1: the condemnation that tell you you're worthless. 224 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: You made too many mistakes. 225 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: There's no way God could love you, There's no way 226 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: he could forgive you. He didn't have any purpose for 227 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: your life. Those are all the wrong voices, So do 228 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: not believe those voices. 229 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: So when you heard those voices, what did you do? 230 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: Because I'd been going to church, I remember to call. 231 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 9: On Jesus, and I said, Jesus helped me, and I 232 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 9: felt in Russian and I literally felt the arms of 233 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 9: Jesus hugged me. So I fill about poet spear. No 234 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 9: one can ever tell me that did not happen. That 235 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 9: was my personal experience with Jesus and my life. My 236 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 9: life radically changed. So I began to pray, be my 237 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 9: word never missed. Church changed my whole atmosphere of the home, 238 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 9: stopped my drinking, stopped the partying lifestyle, with being getting 239 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,719 Speaker 9: to clean up. I talked to the mothers of the 240 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 9: church because I would always lie and say he was 241 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 9: at work, even though I didn't know where he was 242 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 9: on the weekend, but I knew to cover him, and 243 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 9: I would The mothers of the church would say, get 244 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 9: anointing oil and just anoint his head so all I. 245 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: Could find all I could afford. Was cooking Greece. 246 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 9: I couldn't get the olive oil, so I got to like. 247 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 8: Crisco and be like, I'll wake up with crosses on 248 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 8: my head. I'm wondering why my feet are greasy. I'm like, 249 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 8: what mean is this? And what I love about my wife, 250 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 8: she's such a woman of faith. She was supposed to 251 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 8: move to Virginia and take a nine to one operator 252 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 8: position in Richmond, Virginia, because that's where her family's from. 253 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 8: Because she worked for the Fetish Police Apartment in Arizona 254 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 8: for thirteen years. And when I got home to our apartment, 255 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 8: I said, I thought you were leaving with the three kids, 256 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 8: and she said, I had a dream the Holy Spirit 257 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 8: told me you're going to be a preacher. I can't leave. 258 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 8: And I told her, listen, you got you got this thing, twisted. 259 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 3: Dream. 260 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, this whole preach, the thing is not going 261 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 8: to happen. I didn't know three four years later, getting 262 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 8: in trouble would push me and thrust me into my purpose. 263 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: So tell the prayer that you prayed. And this was 264 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: probably like what towards them. 265 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 9: Four years let's say, four years, ten months to where 266 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 9: we're at now. 267 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: And I said, Lord, do whatever it takes. 268 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 9: To save him, because I was so frustrated, so angry, 269 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 9: because you you know, I'm walking in the spirit, walking 270 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 9: my face, and I know God graced me for that season, 271 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 9: but I was getting weary, so I said, God, do 272 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 9: whatever it takes to save him. And one night I 273 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 9: was working as a dispatcher. 274 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: Nine one nine one. 275 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, I get a call for armed robbery and process. 276 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: I get the. 277 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 9: Canine unit, the air unit, the perimeter set up. We're 278 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 9: chasing after them, and I actually ended up arresting my 279 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 9: own husband. What he's supposed to be watching my kids 280 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 9: at home. 281 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 8: I would call my sister, she would watch the kids 282 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 8: while I'm mining, and I had. 283 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 9: No idea because I work nights. So this is three 284 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 9: in the morning waiting. 285 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 6: How did you find out? 286 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 9: Well, I was dispatching. I knew because they get they 287 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 9: when they arrest people, they give you their name, and 288 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 9: they give him name and birthday, and I said ten nine, 289 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 9: which you can see again, and I'm like, it is 290 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 9: my husband. 291 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: And all I thought was, who in the heck, how's 292 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: my kids? 293 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 2: That has to be your surrender moment? 294 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: No? 295 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 9: It actually well yeah yet, no, yeah, not yet it's coming. 296 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: He is. 297 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 2: He's a hard one to deal with it. She prayed, 298 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: the whatever it whatever. 299 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 3: So he's arrested. 300 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 9: I get up and tell my sergeant because I don't 301 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 9: want to lose my job by saying, you know, I'm 302 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 9: married to a criminal, you know. And my sergeant said, 303 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 9: you need to divorce him because he'sn to get about 304 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 9: twenty one years. 305 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, and I was facing seven to twenty one years. 306 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, seven to twenty years. 307 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 10: How are you. 308 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: Stealing rob people at gunpoint? 309 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 8: At gunpoint? Yeah? And the only reason why I didn't 310 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 8: go to prison. I got four years probation, and my 311 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 8: cousin did the four years. We did three years and 312 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 8: eight months is because he had the gun that night. 313 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: Okay, you're jumping ahead. 314 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you went ahead and told it and you're never 315 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: supposed to do that. 316 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: Oh my good. 317 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so go back. So he gets to rest. 318 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 9: He gets arrested, and I knew, well we got him, 319 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 9: you know, And he went to He was in jail 320 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 9: for three. 321 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 8: Days and then when that third day, I'm reading them 322 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 8: by Bissy. 323 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 3: On the third day, Jonah. 324 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 8: I said, Lord, if you're give me out of this, 325 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 8: I'll serve you three seconds later, they said, still, roll up. 326 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 8: And so I'm like, wait a minute. To God at 327 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 8: the bottom Bunck, I asked him, I said, did they 328 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 8: say still? He said yeah, I think so. So I 329 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 8: go up front. They said, yeah, you've been bonded out. 330 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 8: And so I get in the parking lot and there 331 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 8: she is with my parents and I looked at my 332 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 8: dad and I said, I'm ready to be a preacher. 333 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 8: I said, I've been running from God and I'm ready 334 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 8: to get them. 335 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: Then what was different about this time. 336 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 8: Seven to twenty one years? 337 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 4: Wow? 338 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, when they said when you said that prayer, it 339 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: wasn't just to be rescued. You really meant this is 340 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: my surrender body. I'll do what you want me to do. 341 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 8: Because I was. I was a horrible husband, but like 342 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 8: she mentioned earlier, I was a great father. And I'm like, 343 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 8: wait a minute. My kids are three, two, and my 344 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 8: daughter Stella was probably seven or eight months old. She'll 345 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 8: be thirty here real soon this next month, matter of fact, 346 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 8: and so I'm like, I'm going to be missing out 347 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 8: on my kids. So I'm like, I got to get 348 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 8: it together. And so I begin to make those adjustments 349 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 8: in my life, and I stopped drinking. I stopped smoking. 350 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: When your dad say, when you said you want to. 351 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 8: Preach, I said, he said, well, you and Kelly cleaned 352 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 8: my church for a year. And he said on Monday 353 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 8: and Thursdays. And he said, and then I'll let you preach. 354 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: So instead of handing you a mike, he gave me 355 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 2: a mob. He gave you a mob. 356 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: That's right, and I love it. 357 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 9: Here one for free, yeah. 358 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 8: Free, ever got paid. You would take our three kids 359 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 8: and we would lay them in the altar area and 360 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 8: they would sleep, and while we would clean the church 361 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 8: for hours, and you. 362 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: Would do it too, even though you were working full time. 363 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 3: I was, I was. 364 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 9: But even God set it up then that we knew 365 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 9: were a package deal. So I felt, if he does it, 366 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 9: I'm going to do it. And we did it together. 367 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: And so wow, working through that year of doing that 368 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: and just submitting to your father who bonded you out, 369 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: and then of course you to court and then. 370 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: You get a real miracle. 371 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, real miracle. 372 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: And did the judge know that you had returning your 373 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: life around in all or did you know what happened? 374 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 8: I don't think he knew, but because it took like 375 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 8: a year, almost a year and a half for me 376 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 8: to get sentenced to the four years probation. And he 377 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 8: looked at me. He said, listen, you're very familiar with 378 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 8: criminal activity, but this was my first felony. And he said, 379 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 8: if you run a stop sign during these four years, 380 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 8: if you flunk one drug test during these four years, 381 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 8: you're done. 382 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 3: We're going to visual into prison, jail, Prince. 383 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: So you say that probation and that accountability saved your. 384 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 8: Life, Oh, absolutely absolutely, And then she'll tell you my 385 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 8: probation officer would come to our home. 386 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, random all the time, check searches because they were 387 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 9: trying to get him, you know, because he had a record. 388 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 3: He wasn't a good guy. 389 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 9: Although he was a psychiatric tech by day or robber 390 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 9: by night. Yeah, but that just shows your mind is 391 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 9: so when you don't know who you are, you'll do anything. 392 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 9: And so those four years he couldn't go out, he 393 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 9: had to be had a curfew, he couldn't do drugs, 394 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 9: he couldn't drink, had to get permission to. 395 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 3: Do everything, and that's permission. 396 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 9: That was the boundaries he needed. 397 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 3: To totally clean up his life. 398 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 8: Absolutely. 399 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 400 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 6: What was the process like for you to forgive him, like, 401 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 6: was it just like the supernatural grace? 402 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: Or were you like what the heck were you? 403 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: Was there some counseling like, No, that back then counseling 404 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: wasn't it was It wasn't to know the al and 405 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: be free. 406 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: That's right. 407 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 9: They had the altar and say Jesus exactly. But no, 408 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 9: I when when we were going through a process within 409 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 9: our marriage, I learned how to forgive him because I 410 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 9: realized that God had forgiven me. So when I realized 411 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 9: that God forgive forgiving me for all the stuff I've done, 412 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 9: the stuff that I know and the stuff nobody else knows, 413 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 9: how could I not extend forgiveness to him? You know, 414 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 9: I understood, you have understand He married me telling me 415 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 9: I'll probably never be faithful. He married me telling me 416 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 9: I'll probably always have other women in my life. So 417 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 9: I knew I was so women. When you get married, 418 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 9: you got to know his better and his worse. And 419 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 9: I married his worse. So when it came up, I 420 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 9: didn't excuse his behavior, but I understood it, and I 421 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 9: knew that there was something missing within him. Because I 422 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 9: always saw greatness in him. I knew he'd be an amazing. 423 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 8: Lead were always tell me, why are you hanging out 424 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 8: with all these thugs? She was like, don't you see 425 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 8: You're better? 426 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: Don't match. 427 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 8: I would be like, no, I don't see it, No, 428 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 8: you don't match. 429 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 9: And so I just believed in him supernaturally, and I said, 430 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 9: you know what, I just know that God can do 431 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 9: anything with your life, especially when I have that dream 432 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 9: of him preaching, not past oring, but preaching, and I 433 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 9: knew that he wasn't It wasn't him. 434 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: I was fighting. 435 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 9: It was a spirit It's a spiritual battle, spiritual warfare. 436 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 9: So that's why I was able to go to God 437 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 9: and say, Lord, I know in the spirit he's yours 438 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 9: and it's his flesh. But God give me the grace, 439 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 9: give me the strength to keep on loving him. And 440 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 9: by the grace of God, I did so. 441 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: But later counseling would come in. Yes, and that was 442 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: an important part of what God needed to heal in 443 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 1: your marriage, how to do therapy. But one year of 444 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: the MOP, then what. 445 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: Happened with the dad? 446 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 8: And then I finally got a mic and a message 447 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 8: called And what did you think of it? 448 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 11: Oh? 449 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 3: I was amazed. I knew he'd be awesome. 450 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 9: I was one of those always believed it him, you'd 451 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 9: be great, and it was fantastic. And then you know, 452 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 9: my husband's not ashamed of that. 453 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 3: He's justle sick. 454 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 9: And he was very hard from to read the Bible. 455 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 9: And I say, honey, I just wish I could remember scripture. 456 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 9: And this guy has like literally memorized the Word of God, 457 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 9: like it's amazing how he just spits them out. 458 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 8: I've got worked hard these twenty eight years just memory. 459 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 8: But he said in this word that he'll bring all 460 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 8: things back to your remembrance. And so we've been into 461 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 8: her and I with fast a lot, Like we're talking 462 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 8: three days, five days. I've been did twenty one days 463 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 8: with no food. Yes, because I just really wanted to 464 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 8: fall in love with God. So I'm just grateful for 465 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 8: what he's done. And one thing I will say about 466 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 8: my wife, I can remember to answer your question too. 467 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 8: I knew Grace kicked in because there was a time 468 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 8: where I wouldn't come home for two or three days. 469 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 8: I looked at the bathtub one time and she bleached 470 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 8: all my clothes. And I looked at the toilet and 471 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 8: my toothbrush was floating in the toilet. Thank God, she 472 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 8: wasn't home. 473 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 9: I was tired, I'm speaking and tired of that day. 474 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 8: But then months later I come home two three days 475 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 8: later and she's like, what do you want for dinner? 476 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 8: And I'm like, and then my clothes are lost, and 477 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 8: I'm like, Okay, she's going to kill me. Oh she 478 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 8: set me up. So now I'm super a while. 479 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 9: You know, during that time, the Holy Spirit will really 480 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 9: give you guidance and how to handle things. And it 481 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 9: would be the Holy Spirit that say, are in his 482 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 9: clothes and I'm literally getting his clothes ready for the 483 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 9: weekend when he's going to spend time with the side chick. 484 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 9: And I knew that, and he would deliterally the Holy 485 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 9: Spirit say make his food, make us run his bath water. 486 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 9: This is all grace living. And I know it was 487 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 9: for me. It may not be for everybody, but this 488 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 9: was what God instructed me to do. 489 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: And there may be people watching who did something similar. 490 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: But you know, you can't make that person make the 491 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: right choice. At some point, God would would have released 492 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: you had he not changed right. 493 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 9: And Joni, I wish, I wish I could say my 494 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 9: husband turned around with my prayers or because he loved 495 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 9: me so much, but the truth is how to get arrested, 496 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 9: how to face twenty one years. That's what made him 497 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 9: minus life up when I did that. Whatever it takes, 498 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 9: prayer I. 499 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: Want you just said, take a moment. 500 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: We're going to pause for just a second, Pastor Reggie, 501 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: and just lead someone to Jesus that doesn't know Jesus. 502 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: Just a simple prayer will repeat after you. 503 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 8: Say, Father, forgive me of my sins. Come into my heart, 504 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 8: and I thank you, thank you that Jesus and Jesus 505 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 8: died for me. I thank you for his resurrection. Thank 506 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 8: you for because of his resurrection, I am now saved. 507 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 3: I am now saved that I'm free from. 508 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: My past and free from my past. 509 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 8: In Jesus' name, Jesus. 510 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: Amen, Amen, Jesus. 511 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: You know that prayer, Kelly, is so powerful for those 512 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: that prayed it, and for you that day when you 513 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: said help me Jesus. You didn't even have any more 514 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: to the prayer except help me Jesus. 515 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 2: He met you where you were, and you had a person. 516 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: You no longer went through your husband or your mother 517 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: in law or your father in law or the church. 518 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: It was it was between you and God at that point. 519 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 9: Right, Yes, and he meets you anywhere. I tell people 520 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 9: all the time, I wasn't at church, the music wasn't going, 521 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 9: the lights were dim. I was alone at my worst 522 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 9: place out and he's a very present help in time 523 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 9: of trouble. And I was in trouble and he showed up. 524 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 9: And it's really a miracle. There's nothing God cannot do. Yeah, 525 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 9: there's nothing. 526 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the church. So you started the church 527 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: and paycheck. Well, tell everybody what you started and where 528 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: you are now. 529 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, we started and they swapped me slash Fleet Market 530 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 8: with thirty seven people. Ninety three people came to our 531 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 8: first service, and that was on January second, two thousand 532 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 8: and five, and then the next Sunday, thirty seven people 533 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 8: came back out of the ninety three. So I was 534 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 8: preaching the more chairs than people, but we stayed encouraged. 535 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 8: And now here we are twenty years later. You know, 536 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 8: we've passed their thousands of people. And it's interesting. During 537 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 8: our tenth year, God blessed us with ten acres that 538 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 8: we were able to purchase, and now we have a 539 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 8: church in the facility that can hold almost thirteen hundred 540 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 8: pe people. 541 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: And where are you at right now? Phoenix, Phoenix, Arizona. 542 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 3: Name of the churches, Kingdom Church. 543 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: Everybody welcome, everybody, everybody. I love it. 544 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: I love it, Dorothy, I know you can relate to 545 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: some of the things she's talking about. 546 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 5: Wow, your story reminds me of God's faithfulness. You know 547 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 5: you mentioned relationship and that's what it starts with. But 548 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 5: God's hope love I mean, redemption of forgiveness. I mean, 549 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 5: this is how you live a whole and healthy life 550 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 5: and your your evidence of that. 551 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: And it's a beautiful story. Thank you. 552 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: Well tell me, I know you have a book out. 553 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 7: What caused you guys to want to write this love 554 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 7: letters and. 555 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: Do marriage conferences? 556 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 3: Like you have a marriage conference. 557 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: I mean you hear your story like date. 558 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 9: You can help us now, you know, we didn't know 559 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 9: that our ministry was going to be so centered around marriage. 560 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 9: If it really started organically and innocently. A gentleman named 561 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 9: Leo Gossage came to us and said, you need to 562 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 9: talk about marriage, And honestly, he said, African American leaders 563 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 9: need to talk more about marriage. And we stepped out 564 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 9: and did our third year ministry. 565 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 8: And actually our first year and we were only married 566 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 8: for twelve years. The church was one years old, and 567 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 8: she mentioned Leo Gossage. He's with the Lord now, but 568 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 8: he challenged us to really pour into marriages and. 569 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 9: We started talking about it every quarter and people loved 570 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 9: our story. We didn't know our story would be so 571 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 9: enjoyable because when you're walking through, which is what we did, 572 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 9: but now we see it's remarkable and so our. 573 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: Trade could be a movie and. 574 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 3: At least at least on two B. 575 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 9: So we just started organically talking about So our family 576 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 9: is very family based. We're about families. Married, single, divorce 577 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 9: doesn't matter, and we do that. So we have marriage 578 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 9: conferences and every Friday we encourage our couples to date 579 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 9: and go out. 580 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: He takes me out every single Friday. 581 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 2: But we do date too, don't Yeah, we do that 582 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: kind of date. So we're gonna go. 583 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 3: To a break. 584 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna pray over all of 585 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: you that are watching today's just stay right there. 586 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 10: Imagine facing a storm so vast it threatens to engulf 587 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 10: everything you've built. Would you falter or would you find 588 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 10: strength you never knew. 589 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: You had when a hurricane is tearing through your life. 590 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: Jesus is the peace that steals the waters of your soul. 591 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 10: This is a tale of navigating life's fiercest tempests and 592 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 10: discovering that sometimes the most profound truths are born in 593 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 10: the heart of the storm. In your copy now at 594 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 10: Jonilamb dot com slash shop. 595 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what love letters try to make 596 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: your marriage better from a to zy quickly. 597 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: The Lord gave you the book? 598 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,199 Speaker 1: And what kind of impact has it had, Kelly, A 599 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: great impact. 600 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 9: It's really easy, it's simplified. We have a paragraph for 601 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 9: each letter of the alphabet, three words that we have 602 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 9: and I figure life is hard enough. 603 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 3: We don't need to sit down and read. 604 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 9: And let's be honest, our men don't particularly read that book, 605 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 9: so you read to them and that and it has 606 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 9: activities that go along with everything. So like for affirmation, 607 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 9: you know, you learn that you build each other up, obviously, 608 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 9: but the activity is when you're out in public purposely 609 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 9: or firm your husband or wife in front of people. 610 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 9: I think sometimes we don't do that, you know. And 611 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 9: it's just every every letter, every word has an activity 612 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 9: attached to it. 613 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: I love that as I appreciate a firm, attentive be 614 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: is Feld believe let me see is compromise, celebrate consistency. 615 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 616 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: I mean so it's just a neat little book that 617 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: you can do together. And I wonder, Kelly, if you would, 618 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: just as we leave the air today, if you would 619 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: pray for whoever that is just watching that can relate 620 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: and it's hurting. 621 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: Give them hope. 622 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely. Father. 623 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 9: I just thank you God for the person that's watching 624 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 9: right now. Lord, I thank you God that their steps 625 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 9: were ordered, that this is not an accident, but they 626 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 9: were asking God, give me an answer. God, give me 627 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 9: somebody that can relate to me that I can understand 628 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 9: I'm going through. And I believe by faith that you 629 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 9: are the one that is watching. You're watching right now 630 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 9: on purpose, for purpose. I know what it's like to 631 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 9: have a marriage that feels destroyed, but God can repair it. 632 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 9: I know what it feels like to have a marriage 633 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 9: that will never be restored, but God is a restorer, 634 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 9: He could put things back together again. 635 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 3: Put God first. Know that Jesus loves you. 636 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 9: With an undying love, and know that nothing is impossible 637 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 9: with Him. 638 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 3: So by faith, I attach my faith to yours and 639 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 3: know that it is done in Jesus' name. Amen. 640 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: Everybody said Amen, well, we're out of time. Won't you 641 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: remember that Jesus work on the cross released the power 642 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: to restore even the most broken relationships when he did 643 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: that at Calvary, when he shed his blood for our sins, 644 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: he paid the price for all sin of all humankind 645 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: and made a way for us to again have that 646 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: personal relationship with God where we can come to the 647 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: Father and say Jesus, and he hears us, and he 648 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: wants to talk to us. He wants to interact with us, 649 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: he wants to be in our lives. He wants a 650 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: personal relationship with all of us. So, no matter how 651 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: far your marriage may have fallen, maybe you've gone through 652 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: a divorce, maybe you're in the middle of something. You know, 653 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what your ending is. I just want 654 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,239 Speaker 1: to tell you that God will walk you through it 655 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: and be with you, be with you through whatever. 656 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 2: You're going through. 657 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 1: So Colin is a name today, and those of you 658 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: that prayed that prayer, be sure and call. And I'd 659 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: love to send you the Gospel of John. That's a 660 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: great place to start in the Bible and start reading 661 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: that and try to find a good church. But it's 662 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: good to the Bible, says that forsaking not the fellowship 663 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: of You know that we come together, that we need 664 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: others around us. So try to find a good church. 665 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: The Lord the Holy Spirit can lead you. And again, 666 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: if you pray that prayer, call and let us know 667 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: about it. We want to hear about it. When we 668 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: encourage you, we want to pray for you. But I 669 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 1: do want to thank Reggie and Kelly joining us today. 670 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: Be sure to pick up a copy of their book 671 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: Love Letters. 672 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: For more. 673 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: You can visit them online at Kingdom God Church. They 674 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: are in Phoenix, Arizona and doing a great work there. 675 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: It is always make sure to follow us on social media. 676 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: Subscribe to our YouTube channel for full episodes and exclusive content. 677 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: Let us know how Table Talk because touching your life. 678 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: We love hearing from you. 679 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: You can also listen to the Jhonny Table Talk podcast 680 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: available now on all the major platforms. 681 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for watching that. I hope you've 682 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: been encouraged some of you. 683 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 1: This was a God appointment just for you. Just like 684 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: Kelly said, you weren't even planning, but you've actually prayed 685 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: in your heart. 686 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: God, I need you to speak to me. 687 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: Well, He's speaking to you today through this program. 688 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 2: Because he loves you that much. We'll see you next time. 689 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 11: Bye bye for today. 690 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: Well, do you long to see your loved ones come 691 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: to Christ but feel like it will never happen. Well, 692 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: I don't want you to lose hope today because today's 693 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: guest is here to remind you that household salvation isn't 694 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: just possible, it's a powerful and shapable. 695 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: Promise from God to you and your family. 696 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: But before we get to that, join me around the 697 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: table is April Simons, who came to the Lord and 698 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: is part of the household. 699 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 12: I am part of the family, and I love today's 700 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 12: guest part of the family. I haven't seen him in years, 701 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 12: but man, it's a good day. 702 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: So you remember this guest. She used to come to 703 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: your home church? Do I remember them singing? 704 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 12: I just they were just like who The family's had a. 705 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 2: Small little church like Wood Church. Eddie Kendall, How are you? 706 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm just great. 707 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 4: You know. 708 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 13: We had some friends that he was a preacher, and 709 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 13: his sister was a missionary, and his brother was a 710 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 13: doctor missionary and we and I met his parents and 711 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 13: I said, how did you raise such amazing children? 712 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 3: And they said it wasn't us. 713 00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 13: It was the grandparents who started praying and stockpiling for 714 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 13: the great grandchildren that they had never yet met, and 715 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 13: those prayers have been visited down upon our children. 716 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: Isn't that great? 717 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: I love that? 718 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: So do you you have any Scottish in your DNA, 719 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: because you've got the right color hair. 720 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 3: Yes, I do have Irish. 721 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: So we're close. 722 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 4: Yes, we we're praying with us. 723 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: I love that. 724 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: We'll let him address that. 725 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 2: Rachel Brown, how are you? I'm good? 726 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 6: And if Dad was here, he would press the button 727 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 6: and tell someone back there that's running the cameras to 728 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 6: play the old video, the dancing cameras all dancing. 729 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: You were my favorite uncle, and we're gonna go to 730 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 1: that right now. 731 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 3: This is so much fun. I'm excited about today. 732 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 5: I mean, I briefly know about our guess I'm just 733 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 5: from Christian television. 734 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 3: But I absolutely love all our guests. 735 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: MURDOCHI you remember the Cameron family do and they brought 736 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: so much joy they did. 737 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 7: They showed us something about living for the Lord and 738 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 7: rejoicing that I had never seen. 739 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: And they wore these like killed little Scottish kids. 740 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they danced and sang. 741 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 7: Now, honestly, it was amazing how you impacted the body 742 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 7: of Christ. You got us out of religions skirt instead. 743 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: It's well. 744 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: He is spirit field evangelist and the co founder of 745 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: the international nonprofit Orphans Hands. 746 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: Please welcome, Philip Cameron. Welcome to Have. 747 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 4: You watched this program. I've never been this the first 748 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 4: time on table to Talk, and I think one of 749 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 4: these days when I make it. 750 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: Listen, Philip, we go back so far. 751 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean, we go back to my first child being born, 752 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: my second child being born, Rachel was born in Montgomery, Alabama, 753 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: and you and Chrissy and. 754 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 4: Fifty years next year. 755 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: Wow, wow, fifty that is amazing. I remember we came 756 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: to your house because they lived down the street from us, 757 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: and it was you know, she made some hot tea 758 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: that's what you drink in Scotland, and then she put 759 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: some milk in it and I'm like, oh wow, you 760 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: put milk in and it tasted really good, and I 761 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: was like, I've never done that before. 762 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 3: Do you remember that that's. 763 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 4: Drink teas with milk and shore. 764 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was so good. 765 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: Well, you know, for generation, Philip Cameron's family battled alcoholism 766 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: until God rewrote their story. Today he's going to share 767 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: how God redeemed his household and why no one is 768 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: too far gone for salvation. And we really want to 769 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: focus today on those of you that are believing for 770 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: a loss of loved one to come to the Lord, 771 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: and we want to encourage you. Some of you are 772 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: watching right now. You know you just don't even know 773 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: what's going on. No, no, no, no, I don't. But 774 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: God does, and he loves you, and he loves that 775 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: loved one, and your prayers are powerful, and we're just 776 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: going to encourage you to believe for them to be 777 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: saved and come to the Lord, or if they've gotten 778 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: away from God, that they would come back in. 779 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 2: Relationship with God. And Philip, can we believe for that today? 780 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely? It's a well of God. More importantly about me 781 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 4: wishing that were to happen. What you could understand is 782 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 4: that is the explicit will of God that none should perish. Yes, 783 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 4: when God, when God set out to the deem mykind, 784 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 4: he didn't do it with diamonds. He didn't say, well, 785 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 4: let's get a bite with oil. The value system that 786 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 4: God sees for redemption is for God soul of the 787 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 4: world that he gave his only so God's God's value 788 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 4: system is totally wrapped up in family. So I can't 789 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 4: sit at that table and talk to God about his 790 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 4: power because I've got no power come to him or wealth. 791 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 4: I can't talk. But he's a dad and I'm a dad, 792 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 4: and I love my kids, maybe not so much as 793 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 4: he loves his son. But so when God sees us, 794 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 4: he looks us to the lens of the family. And 795 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 4: so I just I just encourage someone watching today and 796 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 4: you're thinking, you know, my family never gets saved. We 797 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: were a bunch of drunks in Scotland with no hope, 798 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 4: absolutely no hope, and two young boys came from a 799 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 4: Bible school in England and preached in someone's bedroom. They 800 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 4: couldn't rent a room building, so they rented this guy 801 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 4: let them use the bedroom to get the table, the chest, 802 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 4: the drawers and the bed out and stuff. And the 803 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 4: ninety six converts in the back of beyond in Scotland, 804 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 4: and sixty seven of them are camerons. Because my uncle 805 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 4: started praying seven years save my family, wouldn't quit. And 806 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 4: the power that you have in your life to say 807 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 4: to the devil, get out of my family. When you 808 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 4: resist the devil. He's got to flee from you. So 809 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 4: it's totally in God. 810 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: So tell us that a little bit of the history 811 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: of the Cameron family in Scotland. 812 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 4: Well, every every generation for two hundred years was a drunkard. 813 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 4: I'm the first Cameron that has never tasted alcohol. 814 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 2: So for two hundred years, totally. 815 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 4: Lost, hated by a whole town. I mean we were 816 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 4: the rival riser. Yes, we were the folk you crossed 817 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 4: the street and no one wanted to talk to us. 818 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 4: And my uncle Michael went up to the was subscripted 819 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 4: to go up and break an American boat that had 820 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 4: been repeeded by the Nazis off the coast of Scotland. 821 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 4: And they broke this metal boat up and put all 822 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 4: the iron back onto the onto a train down to 823 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 4: England to remake for weapons. And he took the weekend. 824 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 4: You get a pass and across the mainland a mile 825 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 4: off the coast, and you'd get a bus to the 826 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 4: bar and get drunk the whole weekend. And then when 827 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 4: he didn't drink, you would take back with him across 828 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 4: to this god feeding island of Calvinists, I mean, you know, 829 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 4: and terrorized them. And one day doing this he came 830 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 4: from the island to the mainland and waiting for a 831 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 4: bus to come. And there's a cup of tea. You 832 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 4: orders a cup of tea and a salt and pepper 833 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 4: shaker picks up this piece of paper for God, soul 834 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 4: of the world, that he gave his only begotten son, 835 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 4: and the wairess came up with her tracked her witness. 836 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 4: We are the modern gospel tract. We are the one 837 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 4: that comes and sits in people's living room and say, Hi, 838 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 4: we're here. 839 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 1: You think about a little piece of paper broke broke? 840 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 4: He never heard the gospel, never. 841 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 2: Been What did say when she came over, Well, he 842 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 2: was crying. 843 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 4: He was reading this Forgod at twenty one and he's shaking. 844 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 4: And she says, are your kiss? Are you saved? And 845 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 4: we come from a fishing town, so you know it 846 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 4: saved as a boat. And he looked up and he says, oh, 847 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 4: I'm saved. And he says, what's these words? And she 848 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 4: says that's the Bible, Son't you obviously didn't know what 849 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 4: it meant? And she says a book. God wrote a 850 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 4: book to mankind. He said, well, where can they get 851 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 4: this book from? She says, well, if you go into Wick, 852 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 4: which is the big town, she says, go down to 853 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 4: the Krakascol and the church has column and they've got 854 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 4: a book room down in the basement. You can buy one. 855 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 4: And he went in and but his wages on the 856 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 4: on the disk bought all the Bibles. He could get 857 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 4: back to the bus, back to the drawing boat, and 858 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 4: walk around the entire island of Strama, knocking on people's doors, saying, 859 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 4: I just met a band culture. 860 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 3: From one verse of one versus script. 861 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 4: So what I'm what I'm saying is the power of this, 862 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 4: the will of God for salvation is so is so intense. 863 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 4: He gave his boy to die. And if he's willing 864 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 4: to give his boy to die for us, then if 865 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 4: you if you're watching the day and your son's breaking 866 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 4: your heart, boy, he loves you, and he loves your family. 867 00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 4: Without love that will never let you go. So seven 868 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 4: years past, they try to abuse him, they mean him 869 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 4: trying to break his will, and two young boys can't 870 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 4: walk town ninety six converts sixty seven. 871 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 6: Given your family's response, yeah, for your uncle's. 872 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 4: Well, when he came in first, oh Rachel, they hated him, 873 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 4: hated everything about him, tried to break his will. Would 874 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 4: come in and switch on the radio in those days. 875 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 2: Would that be Simon, that would be. 876 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 4: Michael, that's Michael, Yes, Simon, it was my dad. He's 877 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 4: his younger brother. So he come home from his work. 878 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 4: He is now the mom from hes back working and 879 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 4: my dad would come home from school and walk past 880 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 4: his bedroom and Uncle Michael would come straight home from 881 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 4: from his work for lunch, eat his lunch into his 882 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 4: bedroom and my dad walked past it. Hear my uncle 883 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 4: Michael saying that Simon saves Simon. Jesus please save Simon. 884 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 2: And Simon didn't like that. 885 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 4: Oh no, no, Well, my dad was drafted into the army. 886 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 4: My mom and dad were having a baby that was sixteen, 887 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 4: and he went lately and could the wine and booze 888 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 4: and stuff my mom. The baby died in my mom's 889 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 4: arms at three days of age, and my mom wanted 890 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 4: to see her baby again. And that's how that's the whole. So, 891 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 4: while my dad was in Italy, these two young boys 892 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 4: came to our retown and and so my mother funny 893 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 4: and because she works here, my mom, her grandma, was 894 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 4: not a Christian girl. My mother was raised Anglican so 895 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 4: she said, what Chrissy needs is some from some religion. 896 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 4: So my mom invited my Auntie Christy, Leslie's grandma, to 897 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 4: go and hear these two young preachers. 898 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 2: Leslie works for us. 899 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so Leslie. My mom got saved and my 900 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 4: Auntie Christie got saved the same night. But your dad, 901 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 4: so he came back. My mom wrote and says, I've 902 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 4: given my heart to Jesus. And my dad thought my 903 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 4: mom had given had fallen over. I called Jesus. He 904 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 4: would have nothing to do with this. So my mom 905 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,919 Speaker 4: wrote him three times a day about what Jesus could 906 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 4: do for them and the piece he could give them 907 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 4: in And they were living in a twelve six wooden 908 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 4: shack at this time. 909 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 2: And he was resisting for a long time. 910 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 4: He came home, stopped going to church, beat her if 911 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 4: she prayed, if if she ever caught with a Bible, 912 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 4: she would would slap her around, forced to go to 913 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 4: the bar, and she just wouldn't quit. And one particular. 914 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 2: Day, how long did it take? 915 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 4: So seven years? 916 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 2: Another so. 917 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 4: He's working in a sawmill with his brothers who are 918 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 4: now all saved, and he's working in this big thirty 919 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 4: inch saw and he had a huge fight with my 920 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 4: mother and I'm done with you. I'm done with this. 921 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 4: This religion nonsense has ruined my life. So he's back 922 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 4: at work and he's putting in the wood at this 923 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 4: big saw. Looked up at the clock. It was two 924 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 4: o'clock and he's cussing, hitting my mother, hating God, and 925 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 4: he's shoving this saw, this wood, the saw, and he 926 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 4: looked up and Summon hit him and began to cry 927 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 4: and he started shaking, and another brother, John walked past 928 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 4: and says, Simon, throw you. He said, then I can, 929 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 4: And then I can. I don't know, I don't know, 930 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 4: And he says, get off that saw, man, you're gonna 931 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 4: cut your hands off. So they took him up and 932 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,720 Speaker 4: carried him up to this little tea room that office 933 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 4: they had, and sent for his mom, my granny, and 934 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 4: she says, what's wrong with your Simon? And then I can, 935 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 4: Then I can, And they put him in a car 936 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 4: and drove him back to my mother and carried him 937 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,920 Speaker 4: into the shack and my mother says, what's wrong with 938 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 4: your Simon? And then I can? And then he stopped 939 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 4: and looked at my mother and he says, Wendy I'm 940 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 4: nay worthy, I'm not worthy. I'm there worthy, Wendy, I'm 941 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 4: there worthy, I'm may worthy. And my mother, after being beaten, 942 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 4: if she ever talked about this, she looked at me. 943 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 4: She said, Simon, I know what's wrong with you. You're under 944 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 4: the conviction of the Holy Ghost. And instead of beating her, 945 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 4: he looked and and she says, if you call upon 946 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 4: the name of the Lord, you're going to be saved. 947 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 4: And he thought it meant shout call. So he's lying. 948 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 4: Jesus tuk me, Jesus stalk me, and he took him wow, 949 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 4: and he was born again. I watched Jonastine cry a 950 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 4: bunch of times. So my father said he remember when 951 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 4: the first wave of forgiveness hit him? Yes, yes, And 952 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 4: he said the lights were turned on double power. The 953 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 4: birds were singing that Simon Cameron had been reconciled with God. 954 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, so good. And how old were you 955 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 2: when your dad got said. 956 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,959 Speaker 1: I was too, so you probably don't remember that much 957 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: about what was going on. 958 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 4: No, No, the dad I knew was a lunatic. For Jesus, 959 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 4: we preached that a corps actually did preach to a corpse. 960 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 2: And I mean he went from one extreme to the other. 961 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: Yes, And that's what happens a lot of times when 962 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 1: when you surrender your heart and your life to God 963 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: and you get online with the King of Kings, of 964 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 1: the Lord of Lords that created you, and you allow 965 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 1: him to do in your life when he wants to do. 966 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: Amazing things happened, and God used your dad in such 967 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: an incredible way. I remember, I was always so impressed 968 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 1: with his fervor for the Lord. 969 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 4: He never he never looking back. I traveled with him. 970 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 4: He took me to America when I was thirteen. I 971 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 4: played that courtd and sang, and he preached and I 972 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 4: sat mesmerized by him seven nights a week, ten months 973 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 4: a year. Never met a guy the hunger. 974 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 2: For godlike and a soul winner. 975 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 4: Oh they died. I flew home to Scotland, walked in 976 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:43,839 Speaker 4: this hospital room and all the machines wring and he says, 977 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 4: what are you doing here? I says, Oh, I says, 978 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 4: I just came to see you. Always made to see 979 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 4: you in Scotland. He says, what you're doing for the 980 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 4: Kingdom of God. 981 00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 2: He would always send you off to do things missions. 982 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 4: Well, all the stuff we do nowadays. Was told because 983 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 4: of him. He just he would have a model. Why 984 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 4: I have a dog and bark yourself, Oh wow wolf. 985 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 4: So he got the dream and I got the job. 986 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 4: That was how we were. 987 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: When you talk about one of the things is that 988 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: you really got a reality of hell in a startling 989 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: way because a lot of people want to believe in heaven. 990 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 2: You know, Hell was never built for us. 991 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: I mean God made a way of escape through his 992 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,760 Speaker 1: son Jesus. All we have to do is say, Jesus, 993 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 1: forgive me coming in my heart. It's done. Hell was 994 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: not created for us, and yet those that reject. 995 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's real Jesus. 996 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 2: It's a real place to else. 997 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 3: So what happened. 998 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 4: I took over the Minutes from Dead when I was 999 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 4: twenty one, and we sang and traveled on TV. But 1000 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 4: I began to feel a starring inside me. If you 1001 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 4: ever had feel like the Lord's want to talk to 1002 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 4: you with something, you don't know whether I was there. 1003 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 4: And one day I was in my office and I said, Lord, 1004 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 4: show me what I'm missing. And I had him speak 1005 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 4: and he said, I'll show you. And as soon as 1006 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 4: he said that, it was like a waterfall of people 1007 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 4: and all of mine came around this river, and we're 1008 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 4: living and laughing and having kids and marrying and just life. 1009 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 4: And I began to notice that we were moving, and 1010 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 4: it began to worry, why are we moving? Where are 1011 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 4: we going to? So I tiptoe and try and find 1012 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,239 Speaker 4: and then I started looking down on top, so it 1013 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 4: was like a split thing. And then I saw the 1014 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,319 Speaker 4: end of this thing, and they were falling off the 1015 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 4: edge of time into eternity. And I began to scream 1016 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 4: when I saw this, and I'm saying, God, no, stop this. 1017 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 4: And he said, they'll never laugh again, they'll never know 1018 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 4: peace again. There's no escape from this. And he says, 1019 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 4: my will is for your families to be saved. And 1020 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,879 Speaker 4: that day I stopped singing, stopped the group traveling. And 1021 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 4: I've been speaking with household salvation ever since. 1022 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 2: So that how that encounter changed you? 1023 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 4: Oh, my goodness, changed me completely. We sang, you know, 1024 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 4: we sang all those praise songs and stuff, and I 1025 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 4: couldn't even find the courage to sing a praise song 1026 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 4: because it was so flippant compared to the torture. My 1027 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 4: mother's mother had died two weeks before this happened, and 1028 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,280 Speaker 4: it was Alice, and she died in my mom's arms, 1029 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 4: with my mom trying to get her saved, and she 1030 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 4: died blaspheming God. 1031 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 3: Wow. 1032 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 4: And God spoke to me that day. He says, Alice 1033 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 4: is lost, She's gone. She'll never she'll never know peace again. 1034 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 2: But it is a choice. 1035 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 4: This is a choice. 1036 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 2: It's a choice we have, April Man. 1037 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 12: You know, I think about your grandfather you talked about 1038 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 12: he didn't know God. 1039 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 2: My dad didn't know God. 1040 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 12: But it just took one person to calm that there 1041 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 12: was a God. And that one person because of that, 1042 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 12: you know, my family's legacy is owed to that person, 1043 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 12: that somebody that spoke up. Dorothy used to win cells 1044 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 12: at college. And it just takes us speaking out. You know. 1045 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 12: We could say, well, I come from a line of alcoholics, 1046 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 12: but you can just say ran in the. 1047 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 2: Family until it ran into me. 1048 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 12: And today I'm making the choice to change the trajectory 1049 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,440 Speaker 12: of my family and make that decision. 1050 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 2: It'll change everything. 1051 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it doesn't matter I mean the past, I 1052 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 5: mean yes, you know, but its lessons learned and it's 1053 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 5: generations that changes forever. And his love is so deep 1054 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 5: he never ever gives up. Seven years it seems like 1055 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:29,359 Speaker 5: a long time. Yes, yes, so it's such a beautiful story. 1056 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,959 Speaker 13: It is, and compared to eternity, that's not very long, 1057 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:32,359 Speaker 13: is it. 1058 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 12: You know. 1059 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 3: I was talking to a friend recently. 1060 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 13: He was talking about how bad things were, and I said, 1061 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 13: this is just a snap of a finger compared eternity. 1062 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 13: Our assignment is here on earth, you know, but our 1063 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 13: home is heaven. 1064 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 3: Let's just not put you. 1065 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,879 Speaker 13: Know this, This earth is so important because it determines 1066 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 13: our eternity, the choices we make here. But other than that, 1067 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 13: it is insignificant. 1068 00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 6: What do you think, you're dad? 1069 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 2: Do we think of all that you've accomplished? 1070 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 4: Now, Well, I don't see. You don't see what you've accomplished. 1071 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 4: I bet when you guys walk through it through here, 1072 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,400 Speaker 4: you mostly see the stuff that's still got to be 1073 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 4: done and challenges the more countries to reach for the gospel. 1074 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,640 Speaker 4: You know, so it changes. It's pretty proud of me, 1075 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,280 Speaker 4: I know, he's product. 1076 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 6: We'll talk about the Orphan Hands for people that don't 1077 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 6: know about that organization, because that's an amazing work that 1078 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 6: you've steered it these years. 1079 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 4: And that's one of those things. Rachel. I have a 1080 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 4: dog and bark yourself. He called me up one day 1081 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,839 Speaker 4: and he says, I'm watching the TV and that our 1082 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 4: baby's dying. I said, what are you talking about? I'm 1083 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,720 Speaker 4: watching your dad. I'm in America. 1084 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 1: Your dad is in heaven now, Simon five years and 1085 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: your mother is ninety. 1086 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 4: Six, living by ourselves, still talk to everything. It's amazing. 1087 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 4: So what happens? He calls up and he says that 1088 00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 4: our baby's dying. I says where? He says, in the Romania? 1089 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 4: I says, isn't that where nadia commination comes from? He says? 1090 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 4: He says. So, he says, and what's your plans? I 1091 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 4: said about what? He says? What you going to to 1092 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,319 Speaker 4: help these kids? And I said, Dad, this is not 1093 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,439 Speaker 4: my mob. He says, so you need to help. I says, 1094 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 4: I I'll send it right right across. Some money, one 1095 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 4: hundred dollars. He says, no, no, no, no, no, that's 1096 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 4: not enough. Next day, he calls me, what do you doing? 1097 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 4: Our baby's dying? I said, Dad, you told me that yesterday. 1098 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 4: You're sick. He was recovering from a cancer surgery. The 1099 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 4: wounded burst in his back terrible minutes. I says, I says, 1100 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,760 Speaker 4: you're sick and I'm busy. I says, to leave this alone. 1101 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 4: Next day the call came, well, I've been thinking, I'm 1102 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 4: going by myself. If I die on my way. If 1103 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 4: I die on the way, it's your fault his sake. 1104 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,400 Speaker 4: Mind stop it, I says, I'm coming home. So I 1105 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,640 Speaker 4: flew home. The local press discovered cancer stricken pasted Romania. 1106 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 4: So the people started bringing us. I mean, all of 1107 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:56,319 Speaker 4: the studio could have been filled with bags. So it 1108 00:49:56,360 --> 00:50:01,240 Speaker 4: started him and me and I thought everything anything, imagine Johnny. 1109 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 4: So we drove to Romania, got to this place and 1110 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 4: I walked in with this, a box of powdered milk, 1111 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 4: baby milk. And I walked in, opened the doors and 1112 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 4: the smell of human waste. I gaged that, dropped the 1113 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,280 Speaker 4: box right outside, went back to the van. I'm standing 1114 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,839 Speaker 4: leaning on the hood of the van. Nick's back out. 1115 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 4: He says, get in there. I says, dude, no, no, no, 1116 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 4: you want to go to an orphan There you go. 1117 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 4: This orphanage is right there. I'm done. He says, you 1118 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 4: can't embarrass these folks. I says, I'm not going in there. 1119 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 4: He says, yes, you are. I said, no, I'm not 1120 00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 4: and I said, if I stay here, I'm innocent. If 1121 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,280 Speaker 4: I go in there, I'm guilty, he says. He grabbed 1122 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 4: me by my neck and he said, well, you're going 1123 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 4: to have to be guilty. And he started hauling me 1124 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 4: into the door. And I walked into the hill, walked 1125 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 4: into the most unbelievable two hundred kids of starving, dying. 1126 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 4: And I went up the stairs in this salon five 1127 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 4: with my dad and in this room and there's thirty kids. 1128 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 4: They're all rocking and like this on the cribs because 1129 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 4: they've never been cuddled all day long, all night long. 1130 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,840 Speaker 4: And uh looks it looks down there's a we face 1131 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 4: halfway down and he's looking up on his crib looking 1132 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 4: up at me, his cheeks sucked in. And the Holy said, 1133 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 4: that's your son, clear as I'm talking to you. And 1134 00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 4: I went down. I picked him up, and I said, 1135 00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 4: I don't know who you are or where you came from, 1136 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 4: but I'm not going to stop until I adopt you. 1137 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 4: And took me a year. 1138 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 1: Not only did you adopt him, but you helped all 1139 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 1: those other children. 1140 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 4: Well, there's no toilets. They sat on coffee cans with 1141 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 4: the raw edge. 1142 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 2: So there were no blankets, no. 1143 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 4: Nothing, There was nothing. There was no heating. The water 1144 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 4: was running down the walls and uh. And so it 1145 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 4: took me a year or shout on back every two 1146 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 4: or three weeks before all I got to you were 1147 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 4: they were, you were in this thing, and uh. We'd 1148 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,439 Speaker 4: sit and just hold them and cuddle them. 1149 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 2: And it took a year to get Andrew. 1150 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 4: And by the time we'd finished, I've fixed up the 1151 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 4: orphanage and was completely addicted. 1152 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,800 Speaker 2: Oh yes, the smell is gone. 1153 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 4: So oh yeah. So Simon calls me one day we're 1154 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,839 Speaker 4: gonna have Christmas and Romaanna. He says, I don't want 1155 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 4: you to go to Romagna this year. I want you 1156 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,399 Speaker 4: to go to Moldova. I says, where in the name 1157 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 4: of heavens is Modif he. 1158 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: Was still alive, just think of all the places. 1159 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,760 Speaker 4: So I said, where's Moldova? I said, isn't that far away? 1160 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 4: He said, it's just one more country over. So we 1161 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 4: went across the Carpathian Mountains in the midst of Bishi 1162 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 4: Gland and a snowstorm, jack knife trucks everywhere, and found 1163 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 4: this place in a town called in Chess, called the 1164 00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 4: Dying Rooms of Moldova and I walked in and the 1165 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 4: director there said. The first thing he said to me 1166 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 4: was I've ever seen a baby freeze to death? And 1167 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 4: my stomach just I said, no, sir, he says, this 1168 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,919 Speaker 4: is eleventh of December and sixteen and frozen to death. 1169 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,120 Speaker 4: Their skins stuck to the bars of the cribs. And 1170 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,799 Speaker 4: that was me off in a whole different thing. And 1171 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 4: I fixed that place up. I built another orphanage, and 1172 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 4: then the government asked me to go to this place 1173 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 4: and we put in three hundred ninety one windows. And 1174 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 4: at the end of the thing, he says, if ever, 1175 00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,400 Speaker 4: I said, where did all these girls come? At eighteen 1176 00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 4: girls come out, sat in this park bench and I 1177 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,320 Speaker 4: said where are they all going? And he went traffic, 1178 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,399 Speaker 4: And that's how we learned about traffic. So ever since then, 1179 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 4: I've been building houses and rescuing. 1180 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,839 Speaker 1: But because you take the girls in like because at 1181 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 1: eighteen days. 1182 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,879 Speaker 4: From the orphanage that come to us, right, we put 1183 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,480 Speaker 4: them back in school. Tell them if you're born, God 1184 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 4: has a plan and you're not a mistake. And they're 1185 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 4: told every day of the life of your garbage, your trash, 1186 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 4: your mother's want you. 1187 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've been helping, and you know there may be 1188 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,399 Speaker 1: people watching today that you want to help as well. 1189 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 2: We'll give you that information. Stay right where you are. 1190 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,760 Speaker 2: We're going to pray when we come back. Stay right there. 1191 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,040 Speaker 10: Imagine facing a storm so vast it threatens to engulf 1192 00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 10: everything you've built. Would you falter? Or would you find 1193 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 10: strength you never knew you had. 1194 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 2: When a hurricane is tearing through your life. 1195 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 1: Jesus is the peace that steals the waters of your soul. 1196 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 10: This is a tale of navigating life's fiercest tempests and 1197 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 10: discovering that sometimes the most profound truths are born in 1198 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,839 Speaker 10: the heart of the storm. In your copy now at 1199 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 10: jonilamb dot com slash shop. 1200 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:20,920 Speaker 2: Oh we're back with Philip Cameron. 1201 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 7: Phillip, would you just take a moment for those that 1202 00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,840 Speaker 7: are watching that maybe they have never prayed that prayer 1203 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 7: of salvation. 1204 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 4: Well, Jesus is as close as a whisper. He loves 1205 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 4: you with a love that will never let you go. 1206 00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 4: No what you're doing, where you are going to measure 1207 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:39,480 Speaker 4: in His love never fails. And if you're watching right now, 1208 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 4: when you don't know Jesus, all you've got to do 1209 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 4: is real simple, you've got to say to him, Lord Jesus, come. 1210 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: Into a Jesus, come into my heart, forgive me of 1211 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: my sins. 1212 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 4: I give you my heart, and I'm going to live 1213 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 4: for you every day, for you every day. Now. The 1214 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 4: Bible says this, if you pray that and believe it 1215 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 4: in your heart, you are saved. What that means is this, 1216 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 4: You're not going to go to hell. You're going to 1217 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 4: go to heaven. And he's got a plan that's so 1218 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 4: much bigger than you've ever imagined in your life. If 1219 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 4: you'll trust him with it, I'll promise you. 1220 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 2: That's so good, that's so good in it. 1221 00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,319 Speaker 1: Well, and you know what you may be watching right 1222 00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 1: now and say, you know what I had. 1223 00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 2: I'd love to help Philip. 1224 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,359 Speaker 1: We're going to put his information up and you could 1225 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,439 Speaker 1: help with Moultdolva. You could help with what he's doing, 1226 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: the orphanages, the sex trafficking, and so many other things 1227 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: that you're actively working on right now. And I know 1228 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: that Father Simon would be so proud to hear about 1229 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: all of this. 1230 00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,359 Speaker 2: But we are out of time. 1231 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,359 Speaker 1: We have another country over for you to go here, 1232 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: but we are out of time. Don't you remember that 1233 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 1: Your past may have wounded you, but it does not 1234 00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 1: define you. Your heavenly Father defines who you are, and 1235 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 1: the Bible says we are the righteousness righteousness of God 1236 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 1: through Christ Jesus, and of course he alone. He can 1237 00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 1: redeem your pain. He can restore what was lost. He 1238 00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,879 Speaker 1: can rewrite your story and the stories of those you love. 1239 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: His promises never fail and will be fulfilled in your life. 1240 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,919 Speaker 1: If you're watching today you need prayer, or you prayed 1241 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,400 Speaker 1: that prayer with Philip, call that number on your screen. 1242 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,840 Speaker 1: We have amazing prayer partners that are standing by ready 1243 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,719 Speaker 1: to pray with you. But I do want to thank 1244 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 1: Philip for joining us today. Be sure you pick up 1245 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: a copy of his book Full House. It's about household salvation. 1246 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 3: It is your story. 1247 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,280 Speaker 2: For more, you can visit. 1248 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 1: Him online at Philipdcameron dot com if you'd like to 1249 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 1: be a part of what he's doing, so always make 1250 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 1: sure to follow us on all social media. Subscribe to 1251 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 1: our YouTube channel for full episodes exclusive content. Let us 1252 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: know how table Talk is touching your life. We love 1253 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,239 Speaker 1: hearing from you, and you can also listen to the 1254 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 1: Johnny Tabletalk podcast, available now on all major platforms. I 1255 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 1: want to thank you for watching. Thank you Philip for 1256 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 1: being here. We love you, appreciate you so much. Thank 1257 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: you so much for watching. I pray you've been encouraged today. 1258 00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:54,160 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. 1259 00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,320 Speaker 11: Bye bye for today.