1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Hey, team, Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. On this episode, 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: Jack posso Bic, Jack Posobic, how do we even describe 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: the man known and beloved by so many as posts? So? 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: He is a senior editor at hun events dot Com, 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: a veteran Navy intel officer, a man who loves his 6 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: Catholicism and his Polishness, and also podcast host and uh 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: generalman about town. Mister mister Postoba, good to have you, sir. 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: Thank you appreciate the intro. And the only thing I 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: would add is that I am a I am but 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: a humble purveyor of cheap and yet cheap, affordable, and 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: yet quality. Rests to all those travelers weary from scrolling 12 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: the internets. Yes, I am your humble merchant. Wow, he's 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: doing He's doing a pillow Postso right now, look at 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: this pillow Posts So I know, I know, I know 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: the moves, I know all the moves Posts. So you 16 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: know who else learn it from? You? You know who 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: else knows them? These days, Chairman, She and Putin they're 18 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: buddying up Russia China. This if we were trying to 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: create in a lab the worst national security scenario over 20 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: the long term for the US. It feels to me 21 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: like a Russia China alliance, a real one, not just 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: sort of a general economic go we're gonna be buddies. 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: A real one is pretty scary. What do you think. Well, so, 24 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: when you look at it in terms of just just 25 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: basic grand strategy, real politic, you have to understand that 26 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: in the world has currently constituted, there are essentially three 27 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: great powers. There's China, Russia, and the United States. Now, 28 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: in the Cold War it was China, China, the Soviet Union, 29 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: and the United States. And this is what and that 30 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: it was the Cold War, Cold War, Cold War China 31 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: Goo's communist in nineteen forty nine. Then in the nineteen 32 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: seventies there's all these secret meetings, the secret travels of Kissinger, 33 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,279 Speaker 1: and then of course the very public travel of Nixon 34 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,919 Speaker 1: to China that breaks up Russia China, that brings China 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: into the US's orbit, and that sets the stage for 36 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: the eventual downfall of the Soviet Union, as the Austrians 37 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: used to say, in a world of three B two. 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: And so what we've done, essentially is the opposite of that. 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: We've decided to throw all that grand strategy out the window. 40 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: We've decided to throw common sense out of the window 41 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: and decide that in a world of three great powers, 42 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: that we were going to drive both of them into 43 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: each other's arms at the same time. Because when you 44 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: consider it from the standpoint of any US diplomat, your 45 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: goal should always be to try to isolate Russia and 46 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: then isolate China so that they specifically do not ever 47 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: do what just happened this week. What do you think 48 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: about the bid administration policy in Ukraine up to this point, Well, so, 49 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: I think what they've done essentially, and not just in 50 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: Ukraine but also in there this idea of their interactions 51 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: with Russia. I remember complete refusal of negotiations, complete refusal 52 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: to have one on one talks. It seems like they're 53 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: not even phone calls going on between between the Kremlin 54 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: and the White House. Right now, I think of Reagan, 55 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: right Reagan would be meeting with Soviet leaders even during 56 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: the invasion of Afghanistan, so he always kept that door 57 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: open and had this sort of two track policy where Okay, 58 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: you can point out that the United States was certainly 59 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: funding elements of the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan, but also he 60 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: was still meeting with Soviet leaders. He was still opening 61 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: up this diplomatic side. Now we've decided to completely eschew 62 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: any diplomatic negotiations whatsoever. You've got people that are just 63 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: absolute radicals like Victoria Newland and Tony Blinkoln who just 64 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: does whatever she says. I mean, he's basically her clerk 65 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and who say that 66 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: Russia has to give back Rama and the dun Bass, 67 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: and the Kremlin needs to be reduced to ash and 68 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: all of the Putin has to step down and all 69 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: this stuff that I'm sorry, it's just not going to happen. 70 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: It's literally just not going to happen. And then they've 71 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: completely decided to forget about having any strategy other than 72 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: simply thinking that it's it's it's nineteen ninety two again, 73 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: and the United States can just dominate the world and 74 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: tell everybody what they want, like we did in the 75 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: in the Gulf War, and we did during this Packs 76 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: Americana at the end of history that Fukiyama told us 77 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: about the peace dividend, and unfortunately we're not there anymore. 78 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: And you can talk about the millions of reasons why 79 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: the rise of China, the relative decrease in American influence, etc. 80 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 1: The overabundance of US power, trying to fill the world 81 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: with NATO, like our adventures in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria. 82 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: The list goes on, but essentially the rest of the 83 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: world has gotten to the point where they're kind of 84 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: sick of it, and they're kind of sick of us, 85 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: and they realize that what China has offered. Now with 86 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: China's offering along with bricks and keep mind at India 87 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: and Brazil are also going along with this. They're quietly 88 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: right now, but they're also go along in South Africa 89 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: as well. They don't really have a choice that Russia 90 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: and China are saying, we're offering an alternate to the 91 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: Western system, not just the American system, but the Western 92 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: system at large that includes Europe, the World Economic Forum, 93 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: et cetera. Where they say, we don't care what your 94 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: values are, we don't care if your dictators, we don't 95 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: care who you execute on a regular basis. We just 96 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: want to access to resources. We want your basing rights, 97 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: we want portage, we want to be able to sell 98 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: our products in your country, and we want to make 99 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: sure that all your rare earth minerals are coming to us, 100 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: and you look, the Saudis and the Iranians. Guess what, 101 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: the Sunni and the Shia buck have just signed a 102 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: deal at the behest of Beijing. The Turks and the 103 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: Syrians are signing a deal now for the first time 104 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: in something like eight year, probably a decade, actually ten 105 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: years where we've seen this, you know, the essentially air 106 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: Towine wanted to side out of there. Now they're signing 107 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 1: a deal. Israel is just kind of forgotten about Israel. 108 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: The Abraham Accords are just completely gone. The Yemenes and 109 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: the Hoothies, it looks like that's actually starting to quiet down. 110 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: The Egyptians were getting involved. We're hearing all throughout Africa 111 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: they're meeting with China and Russia, and even in South 112 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: America as well. So we've seen this with Oberdor in 113 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: Mexico and also in Brazil with their new leader, so 114 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: with Lula, and so the United States really has to 115 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: understand what's happening here. Plus what's interesting to me is 116 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: to look at the role of Russia in this, because 117 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: we've forced Russia into this alliance with China, but also 118 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: Russia has been forced to be there as the junior partner, 119 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: because they don't no longer have access to Western capital markets. 120 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: They no longer have access obviously to Europe to sell 121 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: their gas because obviously that pipeline is now resting at 122 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: the bottom of the politic sea. I wonder who put 123 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: it there, And they've basically severed their entire ties with 124 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: the West. And so what you're seeing now is this 125 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: massive balance of economic, geopolitical and military power that is 126 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: shifting to this new Eastern alliance. And there's an obvious 127 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: fault line right there for Russia where we could, as 128 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: US diplomats, you could easily say, do you really want 129 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: to be the junior partner to China? Do you really 130 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: want to be subservient to Beijing? Because we could offer 131 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: you an off ramp if we can at least get 132 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: these things shut down in Ukraine. But of course no 133 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: one in the US is actually thinking that way. What 134 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: do you think a sensible end to the war in 135 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: Ukraine would look like? What would have to get done 136 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: for us to be at that place? Well, I think 137 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: a sensible end is to understand that. And I say 138 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: this with my Navy intel and had on that clearly, 139 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: CRIMEA is a red line for the Russians for putin there. 140 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: It's the home port of their Black Sea fleet, it's 141 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: their main base, Sevastopol. They're not going to give that up. 142 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: As far as specific territory in the Donbass or this 143 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: land bridge that they've built, I feel like that's negotiable. Obviously, 144 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: a ceasefire would be the first thing the armistice to 145 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: be signed. And we're also, by the way, we are 146 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: hearing noise out of the Kremlin saying that they want that. 147 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: And remember it's the Biden administration right now that's rejecting it. 148 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: They're saying, oh, this would be peace on Russia's terms, 149 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: This would be co opting what they've done. This would 150 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: be what do they say, parroting Russian propaganda, freezing the 151 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: gains in Well, guess what, you know. The situation on 152 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: the ground is the situation of the ground. But essentially, 153 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: what the US would have to do is more than 154 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: likely drop NATO membership for Ukraine. This proposal, that's obviously 155 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: their biggest red line for Russia. That's why they win, 156 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: and they keep saying it over and over and but 157 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: number two, there would more than likely be some kind 158 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: of international and this is what China wants. By the way, 159 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: as well, they've also agreed to this. They want some 160 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: kind of international peace deal for whatever's left of Ukraine 161 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: right now, and then in addition, hammer out what exactly 162 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: the economic agreement is going to be between Ukraine and Europe. 163 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: So there's going to be one. Maybe it's EU membership 164 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: or some kind of you know, you know, observer status 165 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: in the EU where they get access to Schengen that 166 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: type of thing, but not necessarily full NATO membership without 167 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: NATO bases inside European borders, which of course is very 168 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: very upsetting to the Kremlin. I feel like all of 169 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: that could be hammered out rather than us getting into 170 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I just watched The All 171 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: Quiet on the Western Front Front the other day, very 172 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: good movie, fantastic, so fantastic, and I've read the book 173 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: years ago. But they point out that for four years 174 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: those trenches, you know, you have millions of people were 175 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: being killed over you know, a football field's worth of 176 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: territory in some cases, or a couple of football fields. 177 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: You know, we could save ourselves a lot of the 178 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: trouble and save a lot of lives, a lot of 179 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: people's sons and daughters, and God forbid, everyone else's caught 180 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: up in this conflict by just skipping to the end 181 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: right now. And I think that makes sense from a 182 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: moral standpoint and certainly from a United States diplomatic standpoint. Jack, 183 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about how this affects Chinese 184 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: calculations with regard to Taiwan and just a moment, and 185 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: also talk to you a bit about the twenty twenty 186 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: four and politics here at home. But first up, the 187 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: recent bank failures you saw are the largest since the 188 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: financial collapse back in two thousand and eight. So if 189 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: you've been on the fence about buying gold and silver, 190 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: now is the time to make the call. 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All right, mister mister postovik Um, 209 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: tell me more about China and Taiwan and how Russia 210 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: Ukraine does or does not factor into the timeline and 211 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: decision making there. Well, it certainly factors in, and you 212 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: have to say that with Russia, or should you say 213 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: with Beijing with China, and of course she didn't. Bing 214 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: is more than happy to go to Moscow to give 215 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: Putin all the face that he needs, because that's what 216 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: Putin needs, right, He needs this credibility on the world stage. 217 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: He needs an answer to the you know, everyone looking 218 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: out there saying, okay, what's to become of Russia. It's 219 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: this huge wild card. Hijin Ping goes in and gives 220 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: them all the credibility in the world. What does this 221 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: mean that he's now beholden to He now owes that 222 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: all to Sheijin Ping. So you've got Russia on your side. 223 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: The calculation of what because what does China need for 224 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: the to fuel their massive growth? They need gas, they 225 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: need oil. And guess what is directly south of those 226 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: massive gas deposits in far eastern Siberia is Beijing. It's 227 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: right there. And so they're built. They've of course signed 228 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: a deal for pipelines. They're going to be building nuclear plants, 229 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: atomic plants, They're going to be doing everything. As it 230 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: comes to the degree of control. When you look at 231 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: Taiwan VSA V Taiwan, so Taiwan So, China is pursuing 232 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: an interesting strategy, where Russia, you could say, is pursuing 233 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: the Mkinder world island strategy for this dominance of Central Asia, 234 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: this dominance of the heartland theory, whereas China they are 235 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: focusing more and more on MAHAN, the influence of sea 236 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: power on world history, and so MAHAN focuses specifically on 237 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: the strategic sea lines of communication aka choke points, whereas 238 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: China focused on in the Western hemisphere. Of course, the 239 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: Panama Canal, and then we're also hearing Tierra del Fuego, 240 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: which is the strait between and Argentina and Aerarka. Because 241 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: they know that the flow of trade, the flow of 242 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: the economy determined on these choke points. Where they focused 243 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: on in the Middle East, well, it's very obvious the 244 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: Suez Canal, the Strait of Hormuz right right between essentially 245 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: the Arab Peninsula and Iran. Now we come to Asia, 246 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: that's the Strait of Malacca, so that gives you Singapore. 247 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: And then what's the most other important last piece for 248 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: all of Asia. The very last strait that they would 249 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: need to control, of course, is the Taiwan Strait. So 250 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: this is part of China's grand strategy of building the 251 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: One Belt, One Road aka the New Silk Road over 252 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: land that's through Central Asia to Europe, and then the 253 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: maritime Silk Road that includes all of those choke points 254 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: that I just let outlined. So the Taiwan Strait is 255 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: key to China's strategy these maritime shipping rounds because I 256 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: hear people talk about the issue of Taiwan and obviously 257 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: the political history of it being the former government of China, 258 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: the Republic of China of all of the mainland now 259 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, in exile on Taiwan Island. Beijing considers them 260 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: a rogue province. They're sort of the facto country on 261 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: their own because they're self governing, they claim legitimacy over 262 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: the rest of China, etc. Etc. The calculus for them though, 263 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: is can they control the maritime shipping routes on the 264 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: inside of the Taiwan straight into the outside of the 265 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: Taiwan straight and as long as they can control those bucks, 266 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that you're going to see a 267 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: Chinese invasion or even a naval blockade of Taiwan, unless, 268 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: of course, unless, of course, the United States eggs them on, 269 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: or Taiwan moves for some kind of formal declaration of 270 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: independence on their own, a declaration of independence as a 271 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: as a sovereign nation. If you see those, then of 272 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: course I think you will see China. At first. I 273 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: think it would be a military blockade. A naval blockade 274 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: would be the most obvious move by China. They've actually 275 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: done it. They did it just about twelve months ago 276 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: when they held li fire exercises all around the island, 277 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: and also would be very expensive, right so you're talking 278 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: about huge sea lift even though it's very close, you've 279 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: got it. That's an amphibious assault. That's amphibious invasion. You're talking, 280 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean, think of Normandy, the price of Normandy, and 281 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: how hard that was even back in the nineteen forties 282 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: the United States to conduct. You're talking about the same 283 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: exact issue against a fortified position. It's not going to 284 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: be easier for them. That being said, a blockade, starve 285 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: them out, allow you know, not allow United States to resupply, 286 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: not allow the United States weapon US weapons to get in. 287 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: That would obviously be a huge, huge win for the 288 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party and a very easy operation for the 289 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: People's Liberation Army Navy to be able to conduct. So 290 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: I think that I think that right now, the signals 291 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: that we're seeing out of Beijing seem to be that 292 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: they want to go back to this longer, slower process 293 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: of pushing for Taiwan to be absorbed into China, which 294 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: is the same type of process that they were using 295 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: for Hong Kong right up until the protests really kicked off. 296 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: And when those protests kicked off in twenty nineteen, that's 297 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: when you saw the National Security law come in from 298 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: Chi Jinping. That's when you saw the freedom leaders and 299 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: democracy leaders being rounded up, and of course we all 300 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: know that just a few months later, COVID nineteen seemed 301 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: to just make all those protests disappear because everyone was 302 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,359 Speaker 1: forced to lock down, and the leaders themselves also disappeared. 303 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: So they would prefer very much to use that low 304 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: and slow process, because of course the Chinese planned things 305 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: out in terms of generations. They're not like the US 306 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: where we think of election cycles. They don't have election cycles, right, 307 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: and she and Ping of course is firmly in control 308 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: of the party. And I've heard some other you know, 309 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: kind of China watchers say, oh, she is threatened, he's vulnerable. No, 310 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: he's really not. He's taken every He took their elon 311 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: Musk essentially jack Ma, and they locked him up for 312 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: nearly half a year because he went off the playbook. 313 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: This is not a guy who feels threats internally. The 314 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: only thing that he's going to respond to because look 315 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: at it, he's got the United States in his pocket, 316 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: he's got the World Economic Forum in his pocket, he's 317 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: got Joe Biden in the White House, and now he's 318 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: got Vladimir Putin, who owes him a massive favor. He's 319 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: holding a lot of cards right now. Buck, That's all true. Jack. 320 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about twenty twenty four. 321 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: Do you have your guy yet or Gal could be 322 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: or are you waiting to see how this plays out 323 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: in the primary? 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Obviously, 350 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: all this stuff out of New York, out of Georgia, 351 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: out of DC, these potential indictments. I think there was 352 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: a miscalculation on the behalf of the Democrats in Mark Garland, who, 353 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: by the way, it's very clear that Mark Arland is 354 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: behind what's going on in Manhattan and Georgia as well. 355 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's offered these guys some you know, 356 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: positions Oh, Alvin Bragg, I'm gonna nominate you is the 357 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: assistant US whatever in the DOJ after this. But you know, 358 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: he's going flat on his face, but it's it's done 359 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: the opposite, because it's what it's done is show I 360 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: think the whole world that that Trump was telling the 361 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: truth about the deep State, that they really were out 362 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: to get him. That would Amandimilius and Lee Smith and 363 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: everybody pointed out that this plot against the president was real. 364 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: There was, as crazy as it sounds, a conspiracy to 365 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: get him out of office. And now there's a almost 366 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: a you know, a preemptive coup going on to try 367 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: to stop him from returning to office. And I think 368 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,239 Speaker 1: the American people, I think they really miscalculated. There used 369 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: to be a time in this country, you know, back 370 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: in the nineteen nineties where the media kind of set 371 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: the table, where media really set public opinion in this country, 372 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: and if there was a headline in the New York Times, 373 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: a headline in the Wall Street Journal, it was done. 374 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: People just went with that. And that that really you 375 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: can talk about the Iraq War and the lead up 376 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: to that, where that was kind of the last hurrah 377 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 1: of that of that era, but it's not like that anymore, 378 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: because suddenly, if they announced charges on President Trump, I 379 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: think people's more initial response to that is going to be, 380 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, something like, that's bs, why are they trying 381 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: to stop this guy? Because there's so little trust in 382 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: the system right now, there's so little trust in the media, 383 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: there's so little trust in these institutions, certainly so little 384 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: trust in the federal governments, that all it does is 385 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: help him and actually burnish his credentials. And so I 386 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: would have said it six months ago, i'd say it now. 387 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: I think the nomination is Trump's. Obviously he's seeking that. 388 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: I don't see anybody out there on the playing field 389 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: that can really challenge him. I think that if you 390 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: saw when he went to East Palestine and met with 391 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: the families there, that it just seemed to me that 392 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: he's got this this emotional residence with voters, particularly in 393 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: the Midwest and the South and the Upper Midwest, that 394 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: I don't see any other politician in America really breaking 395 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 1: right now. I just don't. And how does he stack 396 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: up against Joe Biden. I think we can pretty safely 397 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: assume it will be Joe Biden running for reelection, although 398 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: it's not. But well, they will take they will. They 399 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: will put Biden. They will put a stick under that 400 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: guy's you know, coat jacket and prop him up weekend 401 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: at Bernie's if they have to. Yeah, they will. So 402 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: let's assume. Let's assume it's Trump Biden go. I think 403 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: I think it actually goes in Trump's favor. And here's why. 404 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: Because people can talk about the brashness of President Trump, 405 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: but you know what, he can also point to two 406 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: things that nobody else can four years of peace and 407 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: four years of prosperity. That America was rich, the economy 408 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: was booming for four years, and we weren't embarking on 409 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: these new world wars. There was no proxy war in Ukraine. 410 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: Tanks weren't rolling into Kiev these horrible images that we're 411 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 1: seeing out of everywhere. China and Russia weren't forming these 412 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: alliances together. It seemed like he was kind of keeping 413 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 1: a lot of these things in check. And oh, by 414 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: the way, radical Islam, I mean, buck, when's the last 415 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: time you even said the phrase radical Islam? To wipe 416 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: them out? He completely went from two thousand and two 417 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: to twenty sixteen. It was our lead issue in like 418 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: all of politics, and now it's it's just going completely 419 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: wiped out in one term. And I think that because 420 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: Biden's term in office has been so abysmal that things 421 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: have gotten so crazy. The economy is in freefall with 422 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: these massive bank collapse as you just mentioned, world of 423 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: faris seem like they're completely falling out of control. It's 424 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: essentially you're looking at the second term of Jimmy Carter here, 425 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: and I think if he frames it that way and says, look, 426 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: I've got the record to beat this guy, plus you've 427 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: got these indictments, I think he's going to win. What 428 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: do you think about DeSantis's chances against him in the primary? 429 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: You know, I think De Santis is a strong governor. 430 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: I think he's a great I wish we had fifty 431 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 1: roun de Santis is running all fifty states, to be honest. 432 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: I think though, that he's still he still just started 433 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: his second term as governor, and I think it makes 434 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: I think more people are looking for him to put 435 00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: to stack those ws in the primary. And that being said, 436 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: I would throw out this. I don't think he'd be 437 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: successful against Trump and a primary. But and I've said 438 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: this publicly a few times already. I do think that 439 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: he would be President Trump's strongest running mate right now 440 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: when you just look at it in terms of the 441 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: political process. Who are those voters that Trump needs to 442 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: win back. Who are those voters that Trump needs to 443 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: make inroads in? That is the suburbs. Trump's got the base, 444 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: He's got the primary on Locke, but in the general 445 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: he could really be helped by somebody like a de 446 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: Santist to go to those voters and say, look, you know, 447 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: this is about operations, this is about policy, This isn't 448 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: about you know, mean tweets. You know, people have issues 449 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: with that. I think it's honestly something that would be 450 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: his best, his best possible pick, at least right now. 451 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: And then because Trump think of it, he's term limited 452 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: to just one more term, so he goes in. Then 453 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: that sets up the Santists essentially to have an eight 454 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: year period, so it's it's not just four years, it's 455 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: actually a twelve year, you know, stretch of just absolute 456 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: conservative dominance at the White House, which we have seen before. 457 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: If you look at Reagan Bush, would you be willing 458 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: to help broker a discussion between Trump, Trump team and 459 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: dissentist team to see if that would even be a possibility. 460 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: More than happy and more than happy to hey, they're 461 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: in the same state that that actually would be, interestingly enough, 462 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 1: one of the biggest other than obviously all the personality 463 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: issues aside that. And keep in mind that that Reagan 464 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: and Bush back in nineteen eighty that was another shotgun 465 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: marriage that was made at the convention. There was a 466 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: bitter primary fight that was put between George Bush Senior 467 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: and Ronald Reagan, who then went on to become his 468 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: vice president and then of course president after him sort 469 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: of was in eight years and four years. This would 470 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: be four years and eight years, and so it's it's 471 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: not to say that it hasn't happened before, but also 472 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: that there is a constitutional question of them both being 473 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: residents of the same state that would have to be 474 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: dealt with. Yeah, it's interesting because I see people this 475 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: is one of those things where you'll say, there's a 476 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: misconception that they can't be from the same state. You know, 477 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: if you just look this up, and then people will say, actually, 478 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: they can't be from the same state. And he said, 479 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: he you say, okay, we got we gotta I can 480 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: tell as far as I can tell, it's actually never 481 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 1: been um it's ever been challenged, so it is one 482 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: of those things that would probably go to the Supreme Court. 483 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: This is dependent on the Article two states the electors 484 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: shall meet in their respective states and vote by vote 485 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: by ballot for two persons, of whom at least one 486 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: shall not be an inhabitant of the state with themselves. 487 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: And it says here on the original system, electors did 488 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: not distinguish between candets and the nation's top two offices. 489 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: The candidate with the most votes became president, the runner 490 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: up became vice president. We all know that the Twelfth 491 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: of Aimen, adopted in eighteen o four after two chaotic elections, 492 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: mandated their electors cast separate ballots for president and vice president. However, 493 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 1: the rule preventing an elector from voting for two people 494 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: from his home state remained in effect under the new system. 495 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: But you know, so which which one is it? It's 496 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: very confusing, and obviously the way around it would be history. 497 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm reading from history dot com and it sounds like wait, 498 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: but then they say they're misconceptions. There's no law or 499 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: regulation against a president vice president being from the same state. 500 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: So interesting. Anyway, the easiest way around it would just 501 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: be for Trump too. He could easily switch his residence 502 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: back to New York. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, mister president. 503 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 1: There would be some more taxes. Um. But it's like, well, 504 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: they're already trying to what are they going to do 505 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: try to prosecute you? Oh wait, that's true. What's the 506 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: worst thing that can happen other than the tax could happen? 507 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: Are already lost it lost a fair amount of money, um, 508 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: you know, from running, I mean, and a bunch of 509 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: other Yeah. I think that's I think that challenge is 510 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: easily dealt with. I think it's dealt with and and 511 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, I think the Supreme Court looking at 512 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: it because keep in mind that the Supreme Court that 513 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: we have right now, kind of the Thomas Court, is constituted. 514 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: They're very much originalists, and they're focused on original intent 515 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: when it comes to constitutional questions like this. Well, the 516 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: issue you there that they were trying to deal with 517 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: in those initial unruly elections was that they weren't. It 518 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: was you know, it came down to the second highest 519 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 1: vote getter would be the vice president. And so the 520 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: issue they were dealing with was who would become president. 521 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: That was the reason for the rule in the first place. Well, 522 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: if you're running as a combined ticket, obviously that that 523 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't be an issue anymore, right right, I mean here 524 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: they're saying, by the way they say that, it's kind 525 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: of the whole thing is silly, Like Cheney for example. 526 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: This is why even if it was an issue, it's 527 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: not an issue. To your point, I've actually looked at 528 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: the bottom of the analysis here, because which you know, 529 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: Cheney had been living and the two thousand election, Cheney 530 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: had been living in paying taxes in Texas for five years. 531 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: He just changed his residence. He just changed his residency 532 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: to Wyoming. Boom done. Yeah, it's as simple as that. 533 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it would be that hard, which gets 534 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: you again gets you out of the constitutional question. But 535 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: even if you brought it to the court, I can't 536 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,719 Speaker 1: imagine the court would Are you optimistic? Jack? I mean, 537 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: do you think you think things are going to get 538 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: better in the country? You have? What's what makes Jack 539 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: pisobic think that, what makes Agent post So think we're 540 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: all gonna be okay. I'm kind of a white pilled 541 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: guy on that you know, I do tend to think 542 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: of myself as hopeful. I pray every morning, I do 543 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: a Rosary every morning, and we do it with the family. 544 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: And I actually think that when I look at when 545 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: I look around at the world, and I see how 546 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: crazy things are. But I also think that I have 547 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: hope in the American people. And when I say that, 548 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: what I mean is, you get to a point where 549 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: things get so bad, where things get so crazy, when 550 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 1: things get so completely out of control, when the units, 551 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: when the when there's Chinese spy balloons flying across our 552 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: military bases and US drones getting struck down in the 553 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: Black Sea, when we even try to take a peek 554 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: at what's going on in Ukraine. By the way, that 555 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: that is how you're supposed to deal with the drone. 556 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: You you shoot it out of the sky, right as 557 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: rather than let it fly over your bases. Just a 558 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: just a point of military strategy out there for everybody 559 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: that that people get sick of it. That I think 560 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: that people know that Biden generally looks weak on the 561 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: world stage. Our economy is an absolute freefall. I think 562 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: that this news about a potential Trump arrest was leaked 563 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: because everyone was freaking out about the banking crisis, and 564 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: I think the American people realize that, you know what, 565 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: there may have been some mean tweets and there may 566 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: have been a bad Orange man in the White House, 567 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: but everyone's lives were a little bit better when that 568 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: was going on, and so you know what it's worth it, 569 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: Jack Posopic, everybody. Jack. Where can people go to follow 570 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: your latest other than on Twitter where you are prolific? Yeah? Yeah, 571 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: way too many tweets up there. The best honestly, if 572 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: you want, if you want post so in small, quick concise, 573 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: those is human events daily. We do the podcast every day. 574 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: It's twenty five minutes or less. Because when I was 575 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: in the Navy, they used to tell us the mark 576 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: of a good briefer was to be good, be brief, 577 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: be gone, and so that is our promise, our oath, 578 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: and our solemn vow to our listeners every day. I 579 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: remember the CIA, we had to do elevator briefs all 580 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: the time because they basically just respired us for the 581 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: notion that important people were going to say, all right, 582 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 1: get the elevator with me telling him what I need 583 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: to know. And I was always but I was always like, 584 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: is the elevator, Like, is this a skiff? Probably not, 585 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: But we're supposed to pretend that all those rules Jack, 586 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: as you know, are right here to the letter all 587 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: the time. Oh yeah yeah, yeah, no, Nottally, I've never 588 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: had conversations like that in the peway, No other than 589 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,239 Speaker 1: you know Joe Biden, who has classified stuff hanging out 590 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: next to the corvette in his garage. Anyway, everybody, Jack bisho, 591 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: but go follow him, Go check out Human Events Daily 592 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: and mister Jack, great to have you. We'll talk to 593 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: you soon. Appreciate it, Buck, thanks here man