1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio and partnership with Showtime. M 3 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Welcome back to All the Smoke. First in person interview 4 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: of my brother. How are you? You're looking real rich today? Man, Hey, 5 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: you got me rich? So it is your father boy 6 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: right there. Man, we got one of the best young 7 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,279 Speaker 1: talents in the league. Unfurt. He's been sidelined for a 8 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: little bit, but man, hopefully he's back soon. Man, Welcome 9 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: to the show. Jamal Murray, appreciate, thank you to appreciate 10 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 1: you being him looking Jack's ass earlier in college. Dude, 11 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm still I'm still putting bandages on right man. Knives 12 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: he threw at my face his motherfucker's beaten jacket in 13 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: a gun game with a knife. Anyway, Man, Happy New year. Man, 14 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: let's get right to it. Uh A c O injury? 15 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: How has how since you went down? How's life been? 16 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: Kind of basketball for the first time for an extended 17 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: amount of time has been taken away from you. How's 18 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: how how is your world been since it's been different? Um? 19 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: Definitely a change, so many different emotions, so many things 20 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: that my first no major injury. That's keept me sideline 21 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: like this UM senior team out there. You know, not 22 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: being that competitive spirit never happened. You know, you go 23 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: to the gym, locking in, you have a routine. You know, 24 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: I can kind of step with my routine right now 25 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,639 Speaker 1: and not do whatever, But I gotta have a mental 26 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: capacity to be in a competitive mode. So I've just 27 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: been chilling, working my ass off, um every morning, go 28 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: to rehab, UM, take care of myself, trying to find 29 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: a new routine, trying to come back with a new 30 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: spirit for when the time come. What do you learned, 31 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: um about yourself in this process again the first time 32 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: kind of being away from basketball due to a major injury. 33 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: What have you learned about yourself? Nothing specific? Did you 34 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: learn a lot of things when you take a step back, 35 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: you see things with your perspective when the like when 36 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: you're in the game, you know when you're in the play. Um, 37 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: I was comparing things the basketball when when you're in 38 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: a play, you might not see the help, you might 39 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: not see what was actually going on. But when you 40 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: step back and look at film, it's like, Okay, this 41 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: is how it's going. So I gonna have like a 42 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: bigger picture of everything of how I want to come 43 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: back of how our team is built, of how the 44 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: league is, how the league is changing, and I'm just 45 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: taking all those things into consideration for when I come back, 46 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: and just like I said, come back with a new 47 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: life and a new spirit. Speaking of coming back, everyone 48 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: who's gonna watch this, yep, wants to know when is 49 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: that going to happen. I'm too far to tell, honestly. Um, 50 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: I was supposed to start doing contact around this time, 51 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: coming up soon, so I'll be exciting, But um, too far. 52 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: So I haven't started playing one on one yet. So yeah, yourself, 53 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: do you feel like you're ready for contact? I mean, yeah, 54 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: for sure, But you know, if I do something, I'm 55 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: sure for the next three days. So I'm sorry to 56 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: it's hard to gauge you know what's coming up, But 57 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: I mean think, I think what's beautiful is obviously we've 58 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: come so far in medicine and a c L used 59 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: to be a major injury. It's not a major injury 60 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: anymore per se because the success rate after this. But 61 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: you know, we just got a chance to see Clay 62 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: come back, um Alfhin a c L and Achilles. We 63 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: saw k D come back and leave the League in 64 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: scoring offen Achilles. You know, so I'm excited, especially because 65 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: you're younger than both those guys, you know what I mean. 66 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: So as long as you stick with the process Man, 67 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: and make sure you're fully healthy before you come back, 68 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: then we're definitely excited to as fans, Man see you 69 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: out there, rocket Man. Becauld you really I feel like, 70 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: in the last two two and a half years, like 71 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: really put yourself on the map man, and and kind 72 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: of be taken down in the midst of that. I 73 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: know that's gonna be, but it's also making you hungry. 74 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,119 Speaker 1: How hard has it been to see you know, I said, 75 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: the game is so mental? How hard has it been 76 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: just kind of having to be around it and watch 77 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: it and you know know that you know, you guys 78 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: lose some close games where you would have been there 79 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: and it would have been a whole another story few 80 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:05,119 Speaker 1: oh man plenty. Um It's it's it's stressful of times. Um. 81 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: I actually went to Canada for like the holidays, for 82 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: like five six days just to get away from it, 83 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: just because it's different when you're you know, like I said, 84 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: in in Denver all the time and watching the routine 85 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: and the grind of the season. But when you're not playing, 86 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: it's a whole different story. And it sucks to watch 87 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: not watch that, but to watch it every day and 88 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: go to practice and have to be in the environment 89 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: all the time. So it was good for me to 90 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: go home and take a break and um looking forward 91 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: to all start baking. I get to go home again, 92 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: see my family. Click your mind. What has your rehabbing process? 93 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: It looks like six days a week, seven days, seven 94 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: or eight days. Um, going in the morning, a lot 95 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: of lifting, a lot of choal work. UM, just trying 96 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: to engage my pain with how much I can do. UM. 97 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: Obviously not rushed nothing, but I'm just trying to get 98 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: a feel for my body. UM, feel for it again 99 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: and make sure it's it's comfortable doing stuff that I 100 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: used to do, adjusting to them doing gym, doing a windmill, 101 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: dunk see me out here. I was so for like 102 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: seventy two hours after that. So getting this first, what 103 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: you feel like? Yeah, so like I'll have like four 104 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: good days of good lifting and good you know, good tending. 105 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: Um what's it called tenant routine? And you know for 106 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: those next few days, I'm like, okay, I'm good, like 107 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: I can basically play um and I'll go do a 108 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: dunk or two, and then I'm played up playing cole 109 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: with my leg up some ice. You know, is it 110 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: your knee or everything around it or I just it's 111 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: just like simple stuff is difficult, Like you know, going 112 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: up the stairs. I gotta be conscious about going down 113 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: the Stairs'm conscious, but because I've been so conscous about 114 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: it for so long. So it's just those little things, 115 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: a little reminders to always keep me my balance because 116 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: some days I'm like, yo, I can't run up the stairs, 117 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: trying to take the trash out man, trying to just 118 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: trying to get up there. And um, yeah, I'd like 119 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: to give our fans kind of that, you know, that 120 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: look inside and like you said, things you take for granted, 121 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, coming back to right the easy stuff. Yeah, 122 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: that's the only current team. And coach, how you feel 123 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: about to have team this year? I think you've done 124 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: really well all things considered. Um, we have so many 125 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: guys out, um injuries, COVID, I'm out. Um, it's just 126 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: been tough. It's been a tough year. That's a big 127 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: it's a big chunk right there. I'm out. Different sometimes 128 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: mean you'll cut there. I feel like we have a 129 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: chance to win anybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, y'all prove 130 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: explain it different between him when you met him to 131 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: now the same guy. The same guy, Um, goofy funny. Um. 132 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: He's just gotten so much more comfortable playing at the 133 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: pace that he wants to. And he's shown that year 134 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: after year. Um. And I still think he's the best 135 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: as you have to come. He just sees the game 136 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: at at a different level than everybody. Yeah. I can 137 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: tell he likes to live life. I've seen in the 138 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: video him to working. Yeah stories, you gotta ask him 139 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: about that. I don't know. I saw that. What unbelievable. 140 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: But but he's I mean he to me, he's one 141 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: of those unique talents. You know, you would look at 142 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: him and think okay, but then when he gets out 143 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: there and plays, I mean, there's there's no holes in 144 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: this game. When you guard him, you don't know what 145 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna get you, right, you know, if he's gonna 146 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: post up, spin pass, look you off. At his own 147 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: pace though he always had his own always sick. Yeah, 148 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: and he got two brothers, two brothers that are with 149 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,239 Speaker 1: the ship too. Yeah, they're with the ship. Two brothers 150 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: is with the ship. But everybody with the ship though 151 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: till the ship come. Yeah you know what I mean, Hey, 152 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: every everybody with the ship and the ship come. Talk 153 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: about your upbringing? Um in Ontario, your dad was an athlete. Um, 154 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: Where did you develop your love for sports, in particular basketball? Um, 155 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm always very competitive. I think that's where it starts, 156 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: um with basketball track my two main sports love abouts 157 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: from from a young and I was playing since before 158 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: I could walk, and that I just carry that with me. 159 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: I would go and um no, go across the street 160 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: after I've done my schoolwork and just play for like 161 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: six hours, seven hours on the concrete court on double rims. 162 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: And that was just like my home to me. That 163 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: was like my hobby is my only hobby. And uh, 164 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: I just took that around with it and you could 165 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: switch on the double room. You got a Jimmy man, man, 166 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: you know where or two I'll be in the snow 167 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: as well. I know I hate the code man that 168 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: I don't like to call it. I'm just used to 169 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: talk to us about when mental hung foo UM means 170 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: to your father and steal that to you? Can you 171 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: speak because obviously so much of this game is mental. 172 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 1: Obviously you're going through a physical injury, but it wears 173 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: on you mental. What is mental? Hung foo and just 174 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: durability mentally to be able to go through whatever you're 175 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: going through. Um. Not to rely on others, um, you 176 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: know how to rely on yourself. I do a lot 177 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: of meditation before games, and I want to wake up 178 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: in the morning or when I'm going through something just 179 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: like take time to myself and be able to be 180 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: honest with myself. I take it out of time to 181 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: look in the mirror and be like honest with myself 182 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: and stuff. I want to accomplish how well I've done, 183 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: how bad it done, um, and just move forward from 184 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: that moment. I like that. I like that mental kung food. 185 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: I didn't put some mental kung food on some mother 186 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: Bucks before my life. Male or female both okay, both 187 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: have vanessed. A couple of niggas have some bags. It's 188 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: the women out there on that money. Yeah, you're right, 189 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: my bad. Uh. What were some of the people you 190 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: idolized growing up? And some of the people you modeled 191 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: may have monited your game after. I've always tried to 192 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: create my own name, especially come from Canada, you know 193 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: all these guys with the YouTube mixes in the highlight tapes. 194 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: I always wanted to create my for myself, and that 195 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: was one of the reasons why I picked number twenty seven, 196 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: because nobody has twenty seven. Um it's now when I 197 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: see little kids and stuff for the number, it brings 198 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: me back. Um. But I used to watch a lot 199 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: of Jordan's obviously, um Vince Visiness my favorite player growing up, 200 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: and I always loved Rows from Afar, his game, the 201 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: way he gets the rim um, his explosiveness. Yeah, Jones, 202 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: you committed to Kentucky to go play with John CALIPERI 203 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: What was that recruiting process? Like? It was cool. I 204 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: was getting a lot of schools, but my dad said 205 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: were still one or two schools that I hadn't got yet, 206 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: and Kentucky was one of them. And that's how I 207 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: knew that was on a scale that I needed to 208 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: be at. Um Dether Schools, Deller School was going to 209 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: go to. It was Oregon. I was actually leaning towards Oregon, 210 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: but it was just too far and coming from Canada, 211 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to be away from my fan for 212 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: the first year. So Kentucky was the easiest choice. What 213 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: are the schools are recruiting you besides are going to 214 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: get Missouri, I mean syrik Us, Michigan, all the all 215 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: the mains. Yeah, we're surprised that are easy to cottage. 216 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: The cottage level game was and it came to you. 217 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: That was my first time playing the two. So I 218 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: was playing the one while up into college and then 219 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: we had Tyler us UH Briscoe, and so I was 220 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: only shooter out of them. I was only shoot at them. 221 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: So um, I said the two. I didn't really handle 222 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 1: the ball like that. Um. But I wasn't surprised at all. 223 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: I was just going sirictly off jump shooting for the 224 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: most part. Two thousands, sixteen seventh overall picked to Denver. 225 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: What was your first thought going there? Not nothing about Denver. 226 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: I don't nothing about that for I didn't do an 227 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: interview for them. I don't work out for them. I 228 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: worked for four teams, and once I once I went 229 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: past those four teams on draft night, I was like, 230 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: oh man, I don't know where, I don't know who. 231 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: Where did you work out for? I worked out for Boston, 232 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: New Orleans, UH, Minnesota, and Phoenix. So when Ingram and 233 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: when oh no, my bad, when Simmons and went Ingram, 234 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: Jellen Brown, Dragon Bender, Chris Dunne, Buddy Hill. I mean, 235 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: what do you think who was the general managers back then? Many? 236 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: Probably not the same. Yeah, he probably at home, but 237 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: general man it was probably the same facts, yes, yes, yes, 238 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: any funny stories um about draft night? Funny stories. Nah, 239 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: I don't think that cool, calm night. I'm a family 240 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: with me. It was pretty chill. So yeah, I mean, 241 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: speaking of your family, how proud of you? Was your 242 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 1: family and particularly your father that night? It was proud, 243 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: but we knew that it was just the first step 244 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,479 Speaker 1: in and what I wanted to to do an accomplished. 245 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: So it wasn't like the end goal. It wasn't that 246 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: wasn't that I made a moment for me, you know, 247 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: it was I stopped more than different. I told you, boy, 248 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: I told you. I told you it's all you need 249 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: to have. That sure, it was like definitely a big factory. 250 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: Two part question, welcome to the NBA moment and then 251 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 1: man opponent to date, Welcome to the NBA moment. I 252 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: got a few, man, I got a few. I didn't 253 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: talk to us about him. Well, I didn't I miss 254 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: my first seventeen shots, which is almost a record coming 255 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: into league. So five games later I made a shot. 256 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: Um that was kind of welcome to the NBA because 257 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: I was like my first real doubt where I was like, damn, 258 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: like nothing's going away. Not just one or two games, 259 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: but like nothing's going on going down for me. Um. 260 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: Another time was with Mike Conley what me He had 261 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: like and fifteen on splitting pick and rolls and finishing floaters, 262 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm like, yeah, I can't hang 263 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: with this guy. Um, you Holiday picking my pockets seven 264 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: times in one game. Welcome I could used to that 265 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: page though, Yeah, Tennessee's I didn't know what anything wanted 266 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: to do. But you know, with all due respect to 267 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: those players he mentioned, it's not the superstar. Mean, you 268 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: know what the superstars do, but everybody could really, you mean, 269 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: like Peo wouldn't think like Mike Conley was a killer. 270 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: Holiday is one of the best two way, but it's 271 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's just some people don't 272 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: know about I think of Staff and Lebron and k D. 273 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: But like everybody, you gotta be ready for everybody talking 274 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: about how difficult and learning to patient rookie year? What 275 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: best did you are? Lano Drew Arthur um Nelson was 276 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: my ill Will Ill Will Orlando, good little bit Will Chamber, 277 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: that's my guy, shout of We're got a squad though 278 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: it was my rookie year. It was me and Mike Miller, 279 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: Jamir d a Ill Will Gallo and somebody else are 280 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: missing Kenneth so we had just fall off the place 281 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: of the Earth. Well, I don't know, he's been working 282 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: to get back in the league. That's my Muslim brother. 283 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. He can help some team with that 284 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: athleticism and his energy. You know what I'm saying. He 285 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: can help somebody, you know. Yeah, Well you got to 286 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: the Rising Starts Challenging All Star Weekend and went and 287 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: one m v P at that game. You feel like 288 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: that was when you really start to everybody to realize 289 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: you seriously and you hear to stay. I mean I 290 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: didn't take that that's serious. Yeah. I always took those 291 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: games serious. But it wasn't surprised me because when I 292 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: went to join the brand and when MVP went to 293 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: Hoops Something MP, when I went to any Bile still 294 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: in Canada and MVP so like I was always, I've 295 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: always showed up for those events. Um, so it's just 296 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: called a put on, like on on the biggest stage 297 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: I've been in. So you come to play in those 298 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: type of games. Yeah, yeah, I'm known for I'm known 299 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: for the bread lights playing the bread lights me too. 300 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: To any other memorable moments from Ostar, just that game. Um, 301 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: I think after after that game, I was out. I've 302 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: always wanted to be in the three point contest, so 303 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: I want to do that. So that's coming, that's coming. 304 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: That's coming. So after not making the playoffs eighteen nineteen, 305 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: you guys finally make the playoffs. What's that feeling like personally? 306 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: And what was the vibe like with that team? It 307 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: was fun. Um, we didn't really know we were getting 308 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: ourself into and we never heard the crowd get like that. 309 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: So I remember play the Spurs game one and we're 310 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: at home. Uh, they win, the tip, crowd as loud 311 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: as crazy. They try to throw the ball in the post. 312 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: I think to Aldrich and I steal it off the ball. 313 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: My man threw the ball and I try to steal 314 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: it as soon as I still, I ran up the 315 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: court from like the logo and just pulled straight backward. 316 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: I say, it was all excited just to be really 317 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: took from the logo to try to start this off 318 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: of the bank, but just good to be there though. 319 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: It was just there. Yeah. Uh this second around, you 320 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: guys had a historic game with the Trail Blazers quadruple 321 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: over time. Um, talk about that battle. That was fine, 322 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: that was fine. Going to the Damon c j um 323 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: how was like our first real test um sant toilzar test. 324 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: But we felt like we were about them Portland. They 325 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: had little mark experience and um, they had some killers 326 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: on the team. The trip overtime game was crazy. You 327 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: guys watch that one. Yeah, that was crazy. Um, it 328 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: was up and down the whole series. But you know 329 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: we get them. If we get them, now you know 330 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: what you do. Yeah, we know what to do with him. Yeah, 331 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: it was just down. Yeah. We was just young. We 332 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: was just young, That's all it was. After game six, 333 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: you spoke up and got emotional in the postgame interview 334 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: where you address racial injustice as well as Ana and 335 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: jar Floor, which I appreciate. Appreciate my brother and Brianna Taylor, 336 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: as each of their pictures were on your shoes. I 337 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: think I I think I told you I appreciate that. 338 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: What was your thought process when all that was going on? 339 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: And uh, to to think to do to put it 340 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: on your shoes. I had those shoes for for a 341 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: while actually, um or plan on get them done a 342 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: while ago before that game, and I just want to 343 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 1: I only wanted to bring him out when when I 344 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: needed them. UM. I didn't want to just you know, 345 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: wear them whenever. UM. And it was always on my 346 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: mind because it was universal. It's a very common thing, 347 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: um racism, and we were in there for a reason, 348 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: not just because of COVID, but they want to use 349 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: basketball as a distraction. And those shoes were away of me, 350 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: keeping myself locked in, and I just I just used that. 351 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: I just went off off that. I said every fifty 352 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: ball and those I had forty two and the game 353 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: before I just so like once I had that good game, 354 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: it was like, okay, these these these means something where 355 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: they take something out of me to you know, and uh, 356 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: I just want with that. And after the game, you know, 357 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: we won the game, and there's so many different motions. 358 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 1: Because you're winning, you to think about the next one. 359 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: But I couldn't get past that I couldn't get past 360 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: the why I was. I was there, you know, so 361 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: that really resonated with me, and everything after that was 362 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: just pure. It's some family members from George for Ambriana 363 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: Taylor that probably never see you, but I guarantee you 364 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: they they wish they could tell you and hug you 365 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: and tell you appreciate that. But you know what I mean, 366 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of people see what's going on, 367 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: but those people are really dealing with pain that's real Tills. 368 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying to see somebody on the 369 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: level you at to. You know what I'm saying, to 370 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: stand up for their children. That mean a lot, Bro, 371 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,479 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't understand how big that was. 372 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: How are you doing from I'm good man. You know 373 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: I doing what I said I was gonna do. You 374 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, to take care his daughter and 375 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: her mom and their lives have changed. And at the 376 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: end of the day, Bro, I didn't know what I 377 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: was doing the whole time. We talked about all the time, 378 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: But when it's your real pain, you just leave with 379 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: your heart. You know what I'm saying that Thanks after 380 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: the powerful moment you got you you go on to 381 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: play the Clippers where you fought where you fall from 382 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: a three dead three one deaths? Did did you think 383 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: I was gonna be able to come back from that? 384 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely from the moment down three And it was kind 385 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: of like joking about it, like let's do it again, 386 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: but like we really had to do it, and just 387 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: doing it to definitely give you the comference that we 388 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: can do it again. Yeah, because no one expected the 389 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: first one, right, So the second one was like, Okay, 390 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: you can't, you can't count these guys out anymore. Um, 391 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: then another side thing ain't coming back and three one again? Yeah, yeah, 392 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: obviously because it's never been done right. But you know, 393 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: when you're watching the regular season and you used to 394 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: watch guys like Jordan's one thing my dask about Jordan 395 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: was like, even if they're down in the game, you 396 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: still watch the whole game because there's always a chance 397 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: that Mike or is going to bring it back with 398 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: the Bulls and come back from the game. Then with Kobe, Yeah, 399 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: and so my once, but it's just that stuck with 400 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: me when my dad said that, and I always want 401 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: to carry that when I'm in the game. So, like, 402 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: you know, I'm known for having those bursts of your 403 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: points just because I believe in what we can do. Um, 404 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: So that really resonated with me, and I just want 405 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: to keep that, uh, keep that going and empowered me. 406 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: Empowered me to take three one your first Western Conference 407 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: Finals ever. In the bubble, how was that? It was cool? 408 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: You lost, So it was I don't really like to 409 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: speak on because we lost, but I'm telling you what 410 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: you what you did miss and we know the home 411 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: and away crowds being in another arena. Yeah, that different 412 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: that I missed that was in the bubble was just 413 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: kind of like pick up from at the best of set. Yeah, 414 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: my hamstring tightened up in the game before the game 415 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: for Game five U that day, it was just wearing 416 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: tear tired. Um, body was exhausted. There's there's a stat 417 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: I was playing. I was taking up for four minutes 418 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: of that game and we were minus eighteen in four minutes. 419 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: So it's just like those things were like it's it 420 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: was real like you had to be out there, had 421 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: to be out there. Guys were locked in on the 422 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: other side. But I mean, that's mentally draining to to 423 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: come back from three Excuse me to three, one down, 424 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: Like you know what I mean, you're back against the 425 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: wall every single game. That's mentally and physically exhausting in 426 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 1: the bubble. So yeah, right, and until you get into 427 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: the Western Finals versus the Lakers, and you guys feel 428 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: like you guys just kind of ran out of gas. Yeah, 429 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: we just got exhausted, got tired. Um, But it was cool. 430 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: It's still cool to be There's something the team in the 431 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: the organization has done a while, but we's not enough 432 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: enough gas in the tank. Yeah. You dropped fifty in 433 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: one season thirty sixty three, Party three a couple of times. Okay, 434 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: fifty though without the tip of the free though only 435 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: Party history to achieve that tone. Now I need to 436 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: was like it here? It was his locked in its over. 437 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: What was it like that game? Because I mean you had, 438 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: you know, obviously historic back and forth with Donovan Bitchell. 439 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: You guys dropped fifty in the same game. But what 440 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: to like being in that kind of zone. It's a 441 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: feeling like no other. That was the first time we 442 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 1: had fans in the arena from back from COVID and 443 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: it's just the energy just got to me. Um. I 444 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: had the other fans cheering for for US in Cleveland, 445 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: which is cool, but I mean it's different. I think 446 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: I was like I was five, so I'm as four 447 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: shots the entire game with no free throws, like it 448 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: was just I'm just hitting everything. Um, it was a 449 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: lot of fun. Once it get here, what was I 450 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: get here? I'm straight, it don't matter where I am 451 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: in April. Unfortunately, you go down with an A C 452 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: L versus the Warriors. Uh, within something immediate. You spoke 453 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: a little bit. You said off before you said you 454 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: had a hernie. Uh said that was a monster. That 455 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: was It wasn't it wasn't long. It was just heart 456 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: a lot. So when you when you know, when you 457 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: made the move, did you know it was something bad 458 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: for the most part, Yeah, because when I went down 459 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: to nothing, I can think about else, Like the lego 460 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: the ball and I just dropped leg um and I 461 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: was I was in pain. It was in a lot 462 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: of pain. It was it was really hot. The lego 463 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: was on fire. Coach comes over, um and it's like 464 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: eerie silent in the gym. There's no fans, right, so 465 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: it's like eerie silent. You heard the ref call for 466 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: medic like it was just not a good spot to 467 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: be in. Um. And then as soon as I sat up, 468 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: I'm like, let me see if I can stand up 469 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: and finish the game. Like we down seven, I'm thinking 470 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: about winning the game with the torn a c L. UM. 471 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, people like no, no, no, I couldn't do anything. 472 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: I couldn't put no way on it. It was. It 473 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: was on fire. When I say, like like a barbecue, 474 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: like on top of your leg. It was uh. And 475 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: then they told me the news, Um, so it's probably 476 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a c L And I got the m 477 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: R I. Right after that, I started my journey back. Man. 478 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 1: I look back. I still watch it now and I'm like, okay, 479 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: I know where I want to be in nor I'm going. 480 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: I know the work that's taken to get me to 481 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: this point. Now. UM, I'm just looking forward to coming 482 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: back and come back with a different life. I'm going 483 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: to take a step back for a second. First day 484 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: of free agency. Um, you receive a max deal five years, 485 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: one seventy What did that mean to you? Um? And 486 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: all the hard work you've put in to be giving 487 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: a max contract, that just that just lit bed of dollars. 488 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: And now I combed that debt. Oh man, that just 489 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: littified like my family, I don't really only look at 490 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: money like that already. I'm pretty hum a guy when 491 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: I go When I go home, I actually sleep on 492 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: air mattress to keep my mental to know where I'm 493 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: coming from. When I got a little brother that's watching 494 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:51,919 Speaker 1: me as well, and I don't have to see that. 495 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: You know, we can get hunger, but you can get 496 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: whatever you want, but you don't take it because of 497 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 1: why that's like, because there's certain things you have to 498 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,239 Speaker 1: learn and go through. And I'm trying to teach him 499 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: and at the same time teach myself. Um, the money 500 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: isn't everything, and you know, if I didn't have any 501 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: of it, I would still be the same person I 502 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: am today. So that's why I look at it honestly 503 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: from the heart. But um, obviously I'm straight. I can 504 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: do what I want. Um, I'm still fined as one 505 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: of the best scores in the game. Um as longly 506 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: going off for me from there. I just that just 507 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: now I see those names like Katie and stuff, I 508 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: want to put my name next to them as well. Um, 509 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: other than your team, do you follow teams players, certain 510 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: players yeah, Um, because you're active on Twitter when doing 511 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: games and after games. Forgot about that and I'm allowed 512 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: to do that. Yeah, absolutely yellow that I said that 513 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: this year the one game I'm not gonna miss his 514 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: Clays game, And I went back at halftime and just 515 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: watch Clays like first five minutes his first and um, 516 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: everybody was real. Yeah it's just Goose was watching that 517 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: because you know, you know he's been out for through 518 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: similar man, but he's but it's like two of them. Yeah, 519 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: without getting into play, Like you don't have that, you 520 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: forget what it's like to be in that competitive mode, 521 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: Like you really missed that. Um, so I just fell 522 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: fromm and it was really nice to watch him. You 523 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: have to have the game taken from you. Well, at 524 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: first you have to understand and love the game like 525 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: we love it, but to have it taken from you, 526 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,200 Speaker 1: it's a different thing. I didn't have it taken from 527 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: you because of no injury dump ship, but just to 528 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 1: not be able to do what you love. People don't 529 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: understand how hard and man if like I don't know 530 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,919 Speaker 1: what else to what else to do? Like that season 531 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: is the whole season, eight months, nine months is all 532 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: about basketball and routine and take care of your body 533 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: and hooping and being locked in. Like now it's like, man, 534 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: I can I can eat a chicken burger and I 535 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: ain't gotta worry about you know what. But I'm just joking, 536 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: but like it's really just like that. We don't have 537 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: to lock in. I don't have to go to the 538 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: gym with a focused mentality. I just they're busting jokes 539 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: and stuff, and I miss being in that mood where 540 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm different person. I'm locked in. You know, talk about 541 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: these players, um, Kevin Durant, Steph Curry. I've always I've 542 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: always had stuff as as a target as a goal, 543 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: um Google And in college, I think it was two 544 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: threes away from tying his freshman record and now how 545 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: many threes away from but like he's still that's like 546 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: that's the target. You know. I've show that I can 547 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: keep up in a way. Now it's just for me 548 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: to Now it's on me to see how much I 549 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: love the game and take it to that level. You know, 550 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: I just put on me. But Katie, You've been watching 551 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: a lot of Katie. Just like we're talking about his pace. 552 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: Now you can just catch them on the elbow and 553 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: he didn't got a dribble. You can get a shot 554 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: whenever and get to the spot. Um, that's what that was. Like. 555 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: The tips I'm trying to take back when I come 556 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: back is you know, get the ball on the post 557 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: and and like yokis, don't have to move and to 558 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: see the game at a different level. Um, that's what 559 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to and starting for UM. So 560 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: those kind of things I pick away from those guys. 561 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: You're gonna stop posting up more. Oh yeah, I got 562 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: to move my own and trying to move my own 563 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: pace when I come back for Shure. Yeah. I think 564 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: I think Steve Smith told me, um, your game had 565 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: changed when you start posting up, because I was a 566 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: big guard at the two spot and it definitely changed. 567 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: It opened up a lot fin But I can see 568 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: you really taking advantage of a lot of guard, especially 569 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: in the west on that block for sure, even guys 570 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: like That's what I said, like watching Brandon Roy because 571 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: it was just bigger. You take guys and posted to 572 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: the mid range Gilvert Arenas Um at the same time 573 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: be able to play like like Darry Rose the River 574 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: and be acrobatic. Normally you don't get to reflect on, 575 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, what you've accomplished or or been in when 576 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: you're playing. You've kind of got to step away from 577 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: the game, unfortunately because of an injury. But what if 578 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: you you know, looking back on this journey, what has 579 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: it been like so far? Learning experience? Um, everything happens 580 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: for a reason. Obviously would have liked to be playing, Yeah, 581 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't have learned the stuff I've learned if 582 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: I if I wasn't out just about myself. Um, been 583 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: going to church more. Um, that's a personal one. Uh, 584 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: looking things a different light and meditating more. Um, talking 585 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: to my brother Moore. Just things I didn't get to 586 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: do while I was playing or didn't focus on. I'm 587 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: focusing on now. Um. It's just kind of looking at me, 588 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: myself and I off the court more I feel it. 589 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: What do you want your fans to know when you're back, 590 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: who you're gonna be? Um? Because like you said, obviously 591 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: this took you too through a growing experience mentally and physically. 592 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: But the type of player you feel like you're gonna 593 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: be when you come back, rejuvenated things the word for it, Um. 594 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: Skill is gonna be there, Shooting touch is gonna be 595 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: there playing in the candies though. Yeah, I'm just gonna be. 596 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be like a rookie out there. 597 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: I'na be. The game's moving fast. I'm probably gonna shoot 598 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: a halfway shot and hit the straight back where. It's 599 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: because I can't, you know, it's like just just because 600 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: I can't, just because I can't. So I heard you're 601 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: a gamer. What kind of games you grow so we 602 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: don't have to talk about this, we can skip this 603 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: sec What kind of games you grow up playing? Ship? 604 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: We just said something to the lord ten times one 605 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: game where I killed him four times. Ship, that's because 606 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: I was playing around, bro. Yeah, you wasn't using knives 607 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: and sell your bottle caps. Thus she was. Um, I 608 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: played a lot of two k um use yourself for 609 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: other players myself every time, okay every time, just me, 610 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: uh everything and it Um. I played fortnight because I 611 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: got a little brother, so I gotta stay. I gotta 612 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: some times for him because he likes to talk to 613 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: just like kiddy. Call of duty. That's all this kidding 614 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: caller duty, I know, but it's if you play and 615 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: you see like the building and stuff, guys, take it 616 00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: real serious as a kid. You know you're different. Um 617 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: Fortnite Card two k Uh, Super Smash Bros. Just down 618 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: Alottle more to Kombat. Um, I play everything man, you 619 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: know Super Smash Process like like Lincoln's OLDA and Bowser. Okay, okay, 620 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: it's a throwback name and all those kids. That's the 621 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: rap Jamal Murray. All the smoke you can cast us 622 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: our Showtime Basketball YouTube and the I Heart platform Black Effects. 623 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: This is all a Smoke, a production of The Black 624 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: Effect and Our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime