WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: How SPAM Works

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<v Speaker 1>M Hey everybody, it's me Josh and for this week's

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<v Speaker 1>s Y s K Selects, I've chosen spam. There's so

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<v Speaker 1>much to understand about spam, including one of my favorite

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<v Speaker 1>facts of our entire show that spam never goes bad.

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<v Speaker 1>So enjoy spam. Now, welcome to Stuff you Should Know

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<v Speaker 1>from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast on Josh Clark. I am Josh Clark, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant and that's a stuff you

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<v Speaker 1>should know. Let's all go home. Some people are probably

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<v Speaker 1>already home. Well, go to bed, Okay. He told me

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<v Speaker 1>that in the email the other day. Go back to sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get that. You're just being goofye okay, just

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<v Speaker 1>lightning the moon like um, yeah, hey buddy, Hey Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a story for you. All right, let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>So last November, not too many months ago, stop looking,

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<v Speaker 1>just listen, all right, Uh, there was a carnival cruise

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<v Speaker 1>liner that had a little fire. The Carnival Splendor was

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<v Speaker 1>on a seven day trip to the Mexican Riviera and

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<v Speaker 1>about forty four miles off the coast of Mexico, it

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<v Speaker 1>went adrift because of fire in the engine room just

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<v Speaker 1>knocked everything out so they lost power, which means it

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<v Speaker 1>was basically just like UM being on an abandoned boat,

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<v Speaker 1>but filled with people ghost ship a ghost ship and

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<v Speaker 1>filled with not just people, filled with two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty magicians who were on a convention. Um. That sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like my idea of hell on Earth. Okay. In addition

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<v Speaker 1>to the magicians, which apologies to any magicians listening, we

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<v Speaker 1>got sculptures melting. You've got magicians they can't find their

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<v Speaker 1>rabbits um. You've got UM toilets of their own flush.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got UM cabins that are UM stuffy. You have

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<v Speaker 1>UM warm food or warm drink. Yes, so Carnival in

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<v Speaker 1>their credit did UM give away free beer and wine

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. But it was warm. So for three

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<v Speaker 1>days all these people were just sitting adrift, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>a very just They weren't very happy. The US Navy

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<v Speaker 1>flew sorties out to this UM this ship and dropped

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<v Speaker 1>off supplies. They dropped off canned lump crab meat, they

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<v Speaker 1>dropped off pop tarts, they dropped off a little something

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<v Speaker 1>called spam canned meat. And when the ship was finally

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<v Speaker 1>I think towed back to uh Port. The people dubbed

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<v Speaker 1>this crazy vacation. What do you think do you think

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<v Speaker 1>they they dubbed it the hop tart Cation? Now do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they dubbed it the lump crab meat Cation. No,

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<v Speaker 1>of course they dubbed it spam cation two thousand ten. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like Chad's story. Our buddy Chad was on a

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<v Speaker 1>cruise remember when he was younger, that the power went down.

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<v Speaker 1>He never told me this one. Oh yeah, he said

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<v Speaker 1>it was like Sodom and Gamora for a couple of days. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah. He said that people were having a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun and engaging inside of me, just in

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<v Speaker 1>Gamore and me having a good time, is what he

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<v Speaker 1>how he characterized it. That's crazy. I wonder if he

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't realize that it would have been like that

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<v Speaker 1>either way, with the power on or off. He was

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<v Speaker 1>just exposed to the power off part. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He kind of made it seem like that with the

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<v Speaker 1>power down, people just it was a little nutty. It

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of like the end times are here. We're

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<v Speaker 1>on a cruise ship adrift, and let's just have have

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<v Speaker 1>fun with each other. Crazy. Yeah, I've never been on

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<v Speaker 1>a cruise, you know. Yeah, I'm not a cruise guy.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad he's turned into a cruise guy. He and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>he and my step mom and the cruises. But they

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<v Speaker 1>know my dad's way into him. Every time they go,

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<v Speaker 1>they come back with like a stomach bug or the

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<v Speaker 1>flu or just apparently they just it's like the epidemic

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<v Speaker 1>just goes through like crazy, like wildfire. My friend Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>in New York or from l A, but from the Bronx.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew his uh, he showed me the tape of his graham.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was his grandmother. Maybe it was his

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<v Speaker 1>aunt this, you know, like the old Jewish lady and

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about a cruise and she was explaining about

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<v Speaker 1>the cruise and how much it costs and how much

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<v Speaker 1>you get, and she was like, it almost costs, he said.

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<v Speaker 1>She said it costs more to stay at home, Like

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<v Speaker 1>she thought it was cheaper to go on a cruise

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<v Speaker 1>than to just live her life at home. Huh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't live in New York. It was very funny though. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't tell her right, but Andrew, if you're listening,

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<v Speaker 1>I still remember that. And if you're listening, Chuck, sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for that one. I am. So that was spam cation

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand ten, and of course they named a spam

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<v Speaker 1>cation spam the food. By the way, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to hear about spam, email, sorry, we'll mention that.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll mention that briefly. But this is about the iconic

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<v Speaker 1>potted meat, right, which, by the way, Chuck. Next July

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<v Speaker 1>five will be it's seventy fifth birthday. July twelve, it

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<v Speaker 1>was interruced to the public twelve, it will have been

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five years since it was trademarked and technically born. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then now in twenty five years there will be

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<v Speaker 1>a spam tennial is what they'll probably call it, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>which will be fantastic. So, Chuck, um, let's talk about spam.

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<v Speaker 1>It's shrouded in mystery. No one has a clue what's

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<v Speaker 1>in it, or in what degree, or what it's made of.

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<v Speaker 1>So Chuck, what is spam? Josh? Spam is a pinkish

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<v Speaker 1>brick of meat that is canned and it is We

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<v Speaker 1>actually do know what's in it. It is pretty easy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's uh, pork shoulder and ham. Yeah, and ham's from

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<v Speaker 1>the butt, right, it's from the rear, hind legs and

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<v Speaker 1>rear end of a pig is what ham is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also got a lot of salt because you need that

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<v Speaker 1>to help flavor and preserve the meat. And I got

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of sugar for flavor and uh water

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<v Speaker 1>and then a tiny amount is what they say on

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<v Speaker 1>the Hormel site. They use the word tiny A tiny

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<v Speaker 1>amount of sodium nitrite, which keeps the botulism away. It's

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<v Speaker 1>keeps a botuli is um away. And it also keeps

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<v Speaker 1>the pink a shoe because if not, spam would turn gray,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not very appetizing. It's they're doing their best

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it pink. So um. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>the pinker the gray with spam specifically would make a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>But the grabster, for some reason who wrote this article

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<v Speaker 1>how spam um? He didn't He left out potato starts

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason. How was that in there? Yeah, potato

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<v Speaker 1>starts in there too. I did not see that spam

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<v Speaker 1>has a Hormel on the website says the shelf life

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<v Speaker 1>is indefinite. No, yes, wow, they say it's indefinite. They

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<v Speaker 1>recommend you eat it. It It is amped within three years

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<v Speaker 1>of the stamped. Because the flavor quote gradually declines. It

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<v Speaker 1>declines to the bottom of the can. Yeah, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>still abedible to shake it up. I'm sure it goes

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<v Speaker 1>right back. Yeah, that's really something. So should we do

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<v Speaker 1>history first or should we go into the production? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to make sense to do history first. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do history then. You know, before it was called spam,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a product on the market UM called Hormel

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<v Speaker 1>spiced ham. Did you know that? I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't selling very well. Well because Hormel was

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<v Speaker 1>in the fresh meat biz, right, And apparently it's just

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<v Speaker 1>it was hard to make your name in the fresh

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<v Speaker 1>meat biz because it was just kind of all the

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<v Speaker 1>same looking right, like, look at this turkey breast. It

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<v Speaker 1>looks like the turkey breast next to us. Imagine they

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<v Speaker 1>still have the same problem today. But they decided to

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<v Speaker 1>get into the can meat business. Well, that was George

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<v Speaker 1>Hormel's problem. Jay Hormel was the one who said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just let's yeah, get into canned meat. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was the son of George the found or. And this

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<v Speaker 1>was in the late eighteen hundreds in Austin, Minnesota, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>which is still the home of UM. Hormel. Yeah right,

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<v Speaker 1>and where it's one of two places it's produced. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a few others. Oh, they added, Yeah, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>care South Korea, Denmark, and I can't remember where the

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<v Speaker 1>third one is. Okay, in North America. You're right, Fremont,

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<v Speaker 1>Nebraska is the other place. So, Um, Jay Hormel is

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the he comes into his father's business and

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<v Speaker 1>just revamped him and probably kept it going today can

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<v Speaker 1>meat exactly. Um. One of the reasons why he got

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<v Speaker 1>into caned meat was because they were just not able

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<v Speaker 1>to make a name for themselves in the fresh meat,

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<v Speaker 1>but also because he came into the business um during

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<v Speaker 1>the depression, and there was a lot of thrifty nous

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<v Speaker 1>so people wanted something that um was cheap and delicious

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<v Speaker 1>that they could feed their family but meaty, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>jahor Mel gave him spiced ham. But it wasn't called

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<v Speaker 1>spam at first, like I said, it was called spiced ham, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Well he had he had problems at first, um packaging

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<v Speaker 1>it because it took a lot of trial and error

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<v Speaker 1>because canning meat it was a pretty new fangled thing

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and apparently sell walls the heat would call. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to point out that spam is cooked. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes like you can eat it right out of

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<v Speaker 1>the can. It's I have already have you man? Not me?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I haven't eaten spam literally since college. But

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<v Speaker 1>we used to take him on camping trips and fried up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, that's not right out of the can. No,

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<v Speaker 1>but I could also eat it out of the can circumstance.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never eaten it out of the can. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the tastes the same, but man fried

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<v Speaker 1>like I was remembering that taste today. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been twenty years, though probably not fifteen. It's been a

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<v Speaker 1>lot less than that for me. Really. Oh yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>and his families from Okinawa and Okanowan's are crazy for

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<v Speaker 1>spam really. Oh yeah, like Hawaiian. Yeah, we'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>that too. Uh so, uh, the cell walls would break

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<v Speaker 1>down and release the water from the meat. So what

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<v Speaker 1>would you would have was as dry meat floating in water,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty gross. It's separate because the cells would lies.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, It's just not good. So over time they

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<v Speaker 1>figured out the canning process, which meant a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>salt in the precise uh temperature that you need to

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<v Speaker 1>cook it at to preserve it to where it is moist.

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<v Speaker 1>And it also has to be mixed in cannon a vacuum,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really important. The key. That's the key. If

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<v Speaker 1>you yeah, if you mix it and can it in

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<v Speaker 1>a vacuum, you should be okay. And speaking of key,

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<v Speaker 1>remember when you needed a key to open it? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't alive, then you are. It wasn't that long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't paying attention to spam. Yeah, there was a key.

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<v Speaker 1>It came attached to the can, and you would take

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<v Speaker 1>off the key and insert into a little thing and

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<v Speaker 1>roll it back like I guess like old sardine cans

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<v Speaker 1>used to do the same thing. Okay, yeah, now I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen that in like cartoons from the sixties. But I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know spam had that sam key before they went

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<v Speaker 1>I guess with the pole tablet? Was that like a

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<v Speaker 1>giveaway though, like a spam key, like you'd send off

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<v Speaker 1>for it or would they tell him at the story

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<v Speaker 1>came attached to the bottom of the can. Oh, gotcha, man,

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<v Speaker 1>those are the good old days. It was self contained

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<v Speaker 1>and fairly explainatory. All right, So J Hormel figures out

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<v Speaker 1>how to can meat. But he's not. He's he was

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<v Speaker 1>a born marketer. The guy sold um. He came up

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<v Speaker 1>with Hormel's Chili kuncarnate. He hired a twenty piece Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>band to go around the country like touting it's goodness,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was Los Lobos, right um and Gypsy Kings,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and uh so like he would come up

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<v Speaker 1>with great publicity since he was good at marketing, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was he was hamstrung by U by the name

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<v Speaker 1>Hornmel spiced Meat. It wasn't selling well. He had he

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<v Speaker 1>had he had it figured out, uh and he later

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<v Speaker 1>on kind of messed a little bit with the recipe

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<v Speaker 1>to come up with spam as we know it today.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was something similar called Hormel Spiced ham. So

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<v Speaker 1>he was having trouble um coming up with the name.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had a New Year's Eve party, right yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Well he had a contest before the party, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>it yielded nothing. It yielded names like brunch and Baby

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<v Speaker 1>Grand and he was like, we can do better than that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>And we should probably give a shout out to Nito Rama,

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<v Speaker 1>who had a pretty good little blog post about it

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<v Speaker 1>was that where he saw it. Um, so hormels like,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to do better than that. I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>a New Year's Eve party, and I'm gonna tell my

0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:31.760
<v Speaker 1>guests that I will. They can get a free drink

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<v Speaker 1>for every name they write down on a slip of paper.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a quote from him saying that along about

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth or fifth drink, people started using their imaginations. Right. Uh.

0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:47.640
<v Speaker 1>And finally a an actor named what was his name, Chuck?

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<v Speaker 1>His name was Kenneth d A I g n e

0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:59.640
<v Speaker 1>a U Danielle daniel We'll go with that, Okay. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a Broadway actor, I believe. Um, he came up

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<v Speaker 1>with the name spam and one bucks. He had like

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<v Speaker 1>five slow gin fizzles and came up with spam right,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred cash right, and that was it. I guess

0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.880
<v Speaker 1>he had to sign away the rights. Oh, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>right there on the spot. Yeah, He's like, I'll sign it, yeah, spam. Yeah.

0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I wonder how he came up with it, besides the

0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.480
<v Speaker 1>fact that he was drunk. It's introuded in mystery. It's

0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:28.840
<v Speaker 1>lost to mysteries a lot of If you go onto

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<v Speaker 1>the Spam official site and they're like, what what does

0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:35.360
<v Speaker 1>spam mean? And there's a lot of there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of conjecture that it means things like um uh something

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<v Speaker 1>posing his meat, like it's an acronym um, or that

0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:49.960
<v Speaker 1>it's a it stands for stuff pork and meat. Okay,

0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.880
<v Speaker 1>it's another acronym. Apparently there's dirty ones too. Yeah. But

0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.040
<v Speaker 1>what we need to point out though, again that spam

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<v Speaker 1>is not some weird mystery meat with all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>like disgusting part. It's it's unless you think pork shoulder

0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.360
<v Speaker 1>and ham is disgusting, right, I mean, we know what's

0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:11.240
<v Speaker 1>in it. That's true. Um, So apparently it's lost to time.

0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.760
<v Speaker 1>They think it's just basically taking spiced and ham and

0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.160
<v Speaker 1>put together. But again, if you go on the official

0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.200
<v Speaker 1>spam website, they're like, spam meat, spam, Now that's what

0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:49.240
<v Speaker 1>we're going with. Sure. Um So that's where the name

0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:54.360
<v Speaker 1>came from. That Hormel trademarked it, introduced it to the public,

0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.120
<v Speaker 1>and it started to take off pretty well. But it

0:14:57.160 --> 0:15:02.680
<v Speaker 1>was actually aided by um in a an obscure act

0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:07.120
<v Speaker 1>by the US Congress that that was past in one

0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.080
<v Speaker 1>called the Lend Lease Act. Right, that has something to

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<v Speaker 1>do with the exportation it did so in America was

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<v Speaker 1>neutral still in the in what was becoming World War Two,

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<v Speaker 1>and they the Congress passed the Lend Lease Act saying

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<v Speaker 1>that the President had the authority to send weapons, supplies,

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<v Speaker 1>and food to countries that were fighting the Access Power,

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<v Speaker 1>which effectively reversed the neutrout neutral stance we had. Right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and spam is a good thing to send because it's

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<v Speaker 1>you can have it forever, it's in a can that

0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:43.120
<v Speaker 1>can get dented up, and soldiers apparently could eat a

0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of it, and not just soldiers, people in other

0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:48.520
<v Speaker 1>countries in restaurants. They shipped a hundred million pounds of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff. Yeah, So Hormel was like, hey, we've got

0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.520
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of stuff for you, give us a contract,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did, and it became ubiquitous in World War two,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in the CIFIC. Right, So, two things are going

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<v Speaker 1>on with the g I s. Well, two things are

0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:07.360
<v Speaker 1>going on with World War Two. One, the g i's

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<v Speaker 1>are eating this stuff or what they thought was spam, morning,

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<v Speaker 1>noon and night and hated it because they've got so

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<v Speaker 1>sick of it. And then secondly, it was also being

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<v Speaker 1>shipped to countries that were part of the Pacific and

0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:22.640
<v Speaker 1>European theaters. And then after World War Two stopped, these

0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.000
<v Speaker 1>people had developed a taste for spam. Well, even the

0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.320
<v Speaker 1>soldiers that hated it came back and they were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, boy, now I kind of misspam. They could

0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.600
<v Speaker 1>really go persone spam exactly. So World War two is

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<v Speaker 1>like this incredibly strange, perfect marketing platform for spam. Yeah. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And then right after World War Two, apparently J. Hormel

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<v Speaker 1>recognized what was going on and he um let out

0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.160
<v Speaker 1>another advertising blitz back here in the States, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was a household name. From that point on, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect sporm if you will. Sorry. Uh, Now, does

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<v Speaker 1>that explain why it's popular in Hawaii and Japan because

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<v Speaker 1>the Pacific thing? Yeah, and especial sleep in Okinawa. Um,

0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:06.600
<v Speaker 1>there've been marines there forever and um Apparently anywhere the

0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.080
<v Speaker 1>American military goes and has like a very big open

0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.800
<v Speaker 1>presence in the local population, spam is a big thing.

0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.880
<v Speaker 1>But for some reason, people of Asian descent are crazy

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<v Speaker 1>for spam. Well they make it. I know in Hawaii

0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.480
<v Speaker 1>they have it and like sushi rolls and stuff like that.

0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:23.639
<v Speaker 1>Imagine they do in Japan too. Yeah, it's um. I

0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:28.919
<v Speaker 1>haven't seen it in Japan. It's called um sam spam musubi.

0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:33.960
<v Speaker 1>It's slices spam on a slab of rice wrapped in newry,

0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:39.399
<v Speaker 1>which is a seaweed. There's your not even like avocado

0:17:39.480 --> 0:17:43.440
<v Speaker 1>or row or anything like that. It's spam. Man, Is

0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:45.560
<v Speaker 1>it cooked or is it raw? It looked cooked in

0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:47.480
<v Speaker 1>the picture I saw. Well, I'm sure you can find

0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:52.920
<v Speaker 1>it anyway. You're talk cooked. But it was like cooked again, right, okay? Um.

0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:56.439
<v Speaker 1>And in in Hawaii also Burger King and McDonald's you

0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:59.160
<v Speaker 1>can find like spam, rice and eggs on their menu

0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:03.000
<v Speaker 1>their breakfast. Man. You it's everywhere it is. It is ubiquitous.

0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:07.480
<v Speaker 1>And they're nearing their eight billiant can of spam pushing

0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:09.760
<v Speaker 1>it out there. Yeah, all right, so that's the history.

0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh we should also say the Hormel Corporation is um

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<v Speaker 1>often like alleged often has alleged unfair labor practices and

0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:24.560
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that these days. Um. But J. Hormel was

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<v Speaker 1>dubbed by I think Fortune magazine the red Capitalist because

0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:33.080
<v Speaker 1>he was really progressive with labor relations in a good way. Yeah.

0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:34.800
<v Speaker 1>There was like a three day strike once and He

0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.080
<v Speaker 1>had a platform built so he could meet with the

0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:41.320
<v Speaker 1>labor leaders, and he hammered out things like UM an

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<v Speaker 1>annual wage, uh A, fifty two weeks notice before termination

0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.359
<v Speaker 1>for workers a year, like a year from now you're

0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:53.359
<v Speaker 1>going to be laid off, UM profit sharing, all this

0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.159
<v Speaker 1>stuff that was unheard of. He became like a really

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<v Speaker 1>like and he managed to create really good relations with

0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.480
<v Speaker 1>his employees, which helped, you know, get them to really

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<v Speaker 1>work hard to turn this stuff out. I'd say fifty

0:19:06.240 --> 0:19:09.080
<v Speaker 1>two weeks is almost foolish as an employer, Yeah, because

0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.199
<v Speaker 1>when it near, it's like, no, no, we need to

0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.600
<v Speaker 1>don't worry about that. Yeah, all right, So that's the

0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:16.680
<v Speaker 1>spam history. Now we should talk a little bit, Josh

0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:20.960
<v Speaker 1>about spam production because it's pretty neat. Oh, like we said, Austin,

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota and Freemont, Nebraska's where it's made here in the States.

0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.480
<v Speaker 1>And it is such a highly automated process that apparently

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<v Speaker 1>it only takes thirteen workers to run the spam factory.

0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.760
<v Speaker 1>And imagine a lot of those are shaving trimming ham

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<v Speaker 1>because Ed says, pig pieces arrive at the plant machines

0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:45.359
<v Speaker 1>the street. Yeah, they grow, the grow the pigs they

0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.800
<v Speaker 1>they grow and kill the pigs across the street. The

0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.120
<v Speaker 1>machines removed the pork from the bone, but the ham

0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.440
<v Speaker 1>is trimmed by hand. Uh. They grind it up into

0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:59.480
<v Speaker 1>eight thousand pound batches, flash, cool it, blend it and

0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:03.040
<v Speaker 1>mix it with the other stuff, and then pipe it place.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it when meat is pipe pipe it to a

0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.119
<v Speaker 1>conveyor belt where it's pumped in a can and sealed

0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:12.600
<v Speaker 1>shut right off the bat right, and then it's cooked. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It is cooked in these in the can. It's cooked

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<v Speaker 1>in the can right in these six story cookers that

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<v Speaker 1>can hold up to like sixty six thousand cans at

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<v Speaker 1>a time, which is something because I think they they

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<v Speaker 1>all of the um the capacity for all of I

0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:35.200
<v Speaker 1>think five spam factories is something like umto thousand cans

0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:39.080
<v Speaker 1>an hour, so they need this huge capacity to cook

0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:44.120
<v Speaker 1>that many cans at once. Your stomachs growling, Sam right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost I thought about bringing some in because we

0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.120
<v Speaker 1>kind of regretted with the Twinkie cast not eating Twinkies

0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:53.040
<v Speaker 1>live on the air. But um, yeah, spam, Jerry, do

0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you have any spam? She's fresh out, Okay, nothing fresh

0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.800
<v Speaker 1>about it. So it is cooked in the can that

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<v Speaker 1>hills the bacteria and obviously cooks it, wash it and

0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:07.600
<v Speaker 1>cool it, and then applied the plastic label. Used to

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<v Speaker 1>be lithographed on the can itself, which I remember, and

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<v Speaker 1>it had a different picture. It had a loaf of

0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:16.399
<v Speaker 1>spam with clothes in it, and now it's a spam burger.

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<v Speaker 1>I prefer the old picture. Yeah, and that the lithic

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<v Speaker 1>the lithograph one away, and I think and they went

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<v Speaker 1>with probably the cheaper plastic rap on the can. I

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that's why they did it. Lithography is not cheap um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it is shipped all over the country and

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<v Speaker 1>then they license it, like I guess they they probably

0:21:35.240 --> 0:21:36.840
<v Speaker 1>don't ship it all, well, they probably should it. You

0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:38.840
<v Speaker 1>know the ones here, the two and the one in

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<v Speaker 1>Nebraska and the one in Minnesota supply North America, South America,

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<v Speaker 1>and Australia. Okay, Yeah, And they say on the Hormet website,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever wondered what spam tastes like, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a quote wonderful combination of a savory, salty, sweet taste

0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 1>that will make your taste buds dance. And now they

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<v Speaker 1>did a lot of self promotion on the official website

0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:01.480
<v Speaker 1>if you ask me dance and tastes. Oh yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like did you go through all the questions?

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, how should I eat spam? Eat delicious spam?

0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:14.639
<v Speaker 1>Anyway you deliciously spamily want to spam? Uh. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a museum, of course, the Spam Museum, which is free,

0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:20.920
<v Speaker 1>which is as it should be, and it sounds awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you read the Roadside America article on it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I looked at some of the pictures too. It's

0:22:25.359 --> 0:22:28.320
<v Speaker 1>it's cool, like it's a cool museum. There was one

0:22:28.359 --> 0:22:32.359
<v Speaker 1>guide on the Roadside America article named John who seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to tell it like it is like he talked about

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<v Speaker 1>the hog place across the streets, like they slaughter twenty

0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:41.200
<v Speaker 1>thousand head a hog across the street there every day.

0:22:41.720 --> 0:22:44.679
<v Speaker 1>It's like at the spam meats you. That's in the

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<v Speaker 1>spam Museum. It was one of the guides, and apparently

0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:53.399
<v Speaker 1>they employee retired spam factory workers as guides. And this

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<v Speaker 1>guy was just like a straight shooter, right yeah, So

0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:59.840
<v Speaker 1>if you go, you should ask for John. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I That's what I gathered. I can't wait to hear

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.440
<v Speaker 1>from people from Minnesota about this that live near there.

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I wonder what the man the smell that gives. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get to the health benefits of a spam.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not healthy, it's not apparently a twelve ounce cam.

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<v Speaker 1>Wh's just the standard size. There's two sides, the twelve

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<v Speaker 1>and the nine than the seven. But if you're eating spam,

0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 1>you're you're going for the twelve. Yeah, that's the one

0:23:27.359 --> 0:23:30.439
<v Speaker 1>you normally see. The twelve ounce can. That little twelve

0:23:30.440 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 1>ounce can has six servings in it. Yeah, I would

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:37.160
<v Speaker 1>say that's about a slice roughly, wouldn't you say? Yeah,

0:23:37.160 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 1>I'd say, like a sort of thick ish slice is

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.600
<v Speaker 1>a serving. So there's six of them in there. So

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<v Speaker 1>so one slice basically has thirty a third of your

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:50.720
<v Speaker 1>recommended intake of daily of sodium. Yes, so a full

0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 1>can is a hundred ninety percent of your daily sodium

0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:57.160
<v Speaker 1>and take. Yeah, that's two times what you should be eating. Yes. Um,

0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.880
<v Speaker 1>it has a lot of saturated fat. A lot of fat,

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of it is saturated n grams and

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 1>in total in the twelve ounce can, which and you

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:09.800
<v Speaker 1>always got to do the big Matt comparison, A single

0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:12.520
<v Speaker 1>can of spam is a little bit less than three

0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>big max stuffed in that little can. Uh. They do

0:24:18.080 --> 0:24:21.800
<v Speaker 1>have reduced sodium and light versions. They do. We need

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.040
<v Speaker 1>to point that out. Who's eating that the health conscious

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:28.120
<v Speaker 1>fam eater? Yeah, I mean surely people are eating it. Yeah,

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:31.000
<v Speaker 1>they're going down the grocery store Asland going like I

0:24:31.240 --> 0:24:33.480
<v Speaker 1>could go from the spam, but I really should watch

0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:36.320
<v Speaker 1>myself and I'll get the spam light. All right, I

0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.639
<v Speaker 1>need to point out in fairness, we're making some jokes

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:43.720
<v Speaker 1>here about spam eaters, but there are poor people who

0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:46.919
<v Speaker 1>rely on things like spam, and I just wanted to

0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:48.280
<v Speaker 1>point that. I don't want people to right and say,

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, like like I used to have one on

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<v Speaker 1>one or to the Golden Pantry and Athens, I would

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.919
<v Speaker 1>have these daily like cheap hourly workers come in and

0:24:56.960 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 1>buy like potted meat and spam. A sausage is huge,

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:01.520
<v Speaker 1>and it would spend literally like the little pack of

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:03.320
<v Speaker 1>crackers and the pot of meat was their lunch and

0:25:03.320 --> 0:25:05.120
<v Speaker 1>they would spend like a dollar fifty on it because

0:25:05.160 --> 0:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>it couldn't afford anything else. So we're not making fun

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 1>of those people. Were making fun of rich people who

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 1>eat spam. I'm not making fun of anybody. Okay, um,

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:15.600
<v Speaker 1>and actually, if you bring that up, because you brought

0:25:15.600 --> 0:25:18.240
<v Speaker 1>that up, spam was born out of the depression, Yeah,

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:21.639
<v Speaker 1>well exact. Apparently, now during the recession, it's production is

0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:25.879
<v Speaker 1>through the roof again. It's demand is just crazy for it.

0:25:25.920 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>So we're not mocking but spam and they seem to

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:31.160
<v Speaker 1>take it. I mean, it's all advertising for them. They've

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:36.280
<v Speaker 1>embraced the the culture of spam and everything that it entails.

0:25:36.320 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's just so it's the cheesiest meat around. It's

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>impossible to not make fun of, do you know what

0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean? Yeah, sure, it's a pop culture, I und

0:25:46.160 --> 0:25:48.399
<v Speaker 1>which is why we're doing this podcast exactly. We're not

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:51.239
<v Speaker 1>doing one on well. I guess we could do one

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:54.679
<v Speaker 1>of being a sausages also made by Hormel i ate

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:58.959
<v Speaker 1>one not too long ago at the School of Humans. Wow,

0:25:59.119 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 1>they served ving A sausages at their little rat party.

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>Nice and h They taste exactly the same as I remember.

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I've never tasted one, but I can tell just by

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:10.840
<v Speaker 1>looking at it exactly what it tastes like, sort of

0:26:10.880 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Bolognay esque in a tube. Two. Alright, So there has

0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:06.360
<v Speaker 1>been some research that suggests that potted and processed meats

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>might increase the risk of cancer. Yes, the FDA still

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 1>says no, No, it's fine, but there's two. Five was

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 1>a big year for that was that the University Hawaii study. Yeah,

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>and they found that six your sixty more likely developed

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 1>pancreatic cancer if you consume large amounts of processed meats.

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:30.080
<v Speaker 1>And the reason why is because that sodium nitrite. That's

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 1>what they think sodium well, this is this is why

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 1>they think it. That's correlated. Right, Sodium nitrite itself is

0:27:36.600 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>not a core carcinogen, that that preservative that they put

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:46.439
<v Speaker 1>in UM. But if you combine nitrite with amines, and

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:50.040
<v Speaker 1>amines are found in meat UM. When they combine and

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>they're metabolizing, they combine, they form nitros SA means nitrosamines. Yeah, yeah, man,

0:27:57.359 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>I wish I would have said that right the first time.

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Those are cariscinogen. Most of them are UM. I can't

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:06.760
<v Speaker 1>remember who did it, but somebody sampled three d UM

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>nitros amans and them were carcinogenic UM. So we can

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:20.720
<v Speaker 1>make as as far as people think um nitrite into nitrosen.

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Nitrosam means so if we're eating cured meat, we're converting

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.040
<v Speaker 1>it into a carcinogen in our body. That's the fear.

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:31.719
<v Speaker 1>Cured meat or process process cured meat, but anything that

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:35.520
<v Speaker 1>has um sodium nitrite in it, bacon, cooking bacon makes

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>it carcinogenic by under this logic. So there isn't like

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>a direct um causal link, which is why the FDA

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>is not doing anything. Is price surprised, but the logic

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 1>is there. That's where the fear comes from. Okay, that's

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>where the fear sets in. And we mentioned that that

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 1>was done by the University of Hawaii, and that is because,

0:28:55.080 --> 0:29:00.280
<v Speaker 1>as we said, Hawaii and Hawaiians love their spam. Do

0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.320
<v Speaker 1>you have any stats on that? Yeah? What was it? Uh?

0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I think the for every Hawaiian they's six pounds of

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>spam per year. I think so they definitely eat I'm sorry,

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 1>three pounds. So so I've seen different numbers here. I

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>saw six cans per person per year. If you spread

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>it out across the population evenly as a whole, the

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>state eats eight million of the hundred million cans that

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 1>are made UH that are consumed in the US every year,

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 1>which seems low. Yeah, I got all sorts of It's

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.040
<v Speaker 1>all over the place. The numbers are all over the place,

0:29:39.080 --> 0:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>but Hawaii leads the nation in spam consumption. Well, and

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>they said it's far and away, so they didn't They

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't tell me who was second place. Um, I imagine

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Georgia ranks. It's probably up there scrapple. I'll bet Georgia

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 1>leads in scrapple consumption. I bet California is pretty low

0:29:56.000 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>on the list of space so um. But yes, Hawai,

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy for you if you can find it in

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:05.200
<v Speaker 1>a McDonald's. Uh, it's it means that it's part of

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 1>your local culture. And remember in fifty First Dates it

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 1>was a big, big thing. Uh sort of saw that,

0:30:12.160 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 1>but don't remember the spam references. It was, Yeah, anytime

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 1>they were at the restaurant, there was like some spam joke. Okay,

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I think I might have checked out it, like The

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 1>First State. It was a cute movie that drew Barrymore.

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:32.120
<v Speaker 1>I love her. We have to mention Monty Python's Flying

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>Circus because they a had the Broadway show or have

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:39.480
<v Speaker 1>spam a lot running. I think so somewhere. I'm sure

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 1>it's on the road, big hit. And in the nineteen

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:45.239
<v Speaker 1>seventies they're awesome show. The Flying Circus was. They had

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>a very famous skit about spam. Did you watch it? Yeah?

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I watch it at end of the day. I'd seen

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>it before. I think my favorite part is the beginning

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>when the couple just comes down on wires into the chairs. Yeah,

0:30:56.440 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 1>I liked Who played the wife? Was it Terry Gilliam now? Uh?

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it? Oh shoot, I can't remember his name.

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 1>The other Terry Terry Jones maybe, Okay, I'm not sure.

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>He was hilarious in it. And the joke was that

0:31:13.920 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a spam is on the menu all over the

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:20.479
<v Speaker 1>place in this diner in England, and that there's also

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.959
<v Speaker 1>a big group of Vikings that starts singing a spam

0:31:24.000 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>song in the diner. It's just just just type in

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>money Python spam and go for the one that has

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>three million views. Is vintage Um A little uh back

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>to the history for a second. Um Hormel was so

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 1>involved in the war effort that they had a wartime

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>mascot called Slamming Spammy. I did not see that, which

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>was an armed pig throwing grenades. Really ostensibly at Um Hitler,

0:31:52.000 --> 0:31:56.239
<v Speaker 1>oh of course, And to Joe, sure, yeah Hitler, Yeah,

0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>you gotta throw spam a hitler. No throwing grenades. Oh,

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>they weren't made of spam. No, they were grenades. Okay,

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 1>he was like he didn't even look like a cute pig.

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>He looked like a like the kind of pig you'd

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>see like painted on the front of an airplane in

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>World War Two. Okay, I thought it. They were throwing

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>like spam grenades. No, No, you wanted to keep the

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>spam from the Nazis. Yeah, you don't want them to

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:22.920
<v Speaker 1>want You want to ring death upon them, not spam,

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>right right, that makes sense, although if you dropped spam

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>from high enough it would kill you. Yeah, I guess

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be very good marketing if they're throwing spam,

0:32:30.360 --> 0:32:35.640
<v Speaker 1>just trying to uh what else we got we have? Well,

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>we should talk about the email um version of spam

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>and where that came from. The story I got is

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:48.200
<v Speaker 1>that in the early days of the internets, remember bulletin boards,

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>if a bulletin board user wanted to scroll you off

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>the screen, they just started typing spam and copy pasting

0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:02.560
<v Speaker 1>it until you were removed from the screen. That's what

0:33:02.640 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I heard. That's a good one. And then and they

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 1>got that from the Monty Python thing evidently, and then

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>early chat rooms same thing. Uh that it was initially

0:33:11.000 --> 0:33:15.040
<v Speaker 1>called flooding, and then simply spamming, and then eventually the

0:33:15.120 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>email version came around. And it does not stand for stupid,

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>pointless annoying message. Yeah, that's stupid. That's just a fault.

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>So that makes me want to beat someone up. What

0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>else we got? Uh? You? My personal experience of spam

0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>has been pretty pleasant. Let's hear. Um, let's see, I've

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 1>had it in curry. It's very, very good in curry

0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:43.240
<v Speaker 1>with rice nice. Um. I was in Switzerland once I

0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 1>had metzker Rosti, which is one of the greatest things

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I've ever had in my entire life. It's um like

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>fried hash brown potatoes, slice of fried spam, fried eggs,

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>and then this divine gravy sounds so good and I

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>ate that as often as it could. Surely I've mentioned

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 1>it before. Mets he throws some French fries on there,

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:10.960
<v Speaker 1>and your permanes. Yeah, I've never had permanes. Uh. Muppet

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Treasure Island featured a character UM called spam s p

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>a apostrophe A m is that what that was? On? Yeah?

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>And he was a big wart hog who also wore

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.799
<v Speaker 1>a necklace of shrunken pigheads, so that kind of ties

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 1>back in when their shrunken head thing. So he was nuts.

0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>He was nuts, and it's The Hormel Company sued the

0:34:35.120 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Jim Hinton Company for quote a noxious appealing wild boar

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:43.839
<v Speaker 1>who was quote intentionally portrayed to be evil in poor

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:48.239
<v Speaker 1>sign form named Sam. I guess they called him spam

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and the Hinton company was like, we're just kidding around,

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 1>like can we settle this. It's get a sense of humor.

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 1>And I think it was settled. I don't. I don't

0:34:56.239 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 1>think either that or they just lost the lawsuit. I

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 1>got a world record for you. Oh yeah, let's hear

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Richard Lefevre orlefarv eight six pounds of spam in twelve minutes. Wow,

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:13.359
<v Speaker 1>and I think he holds the record. Still wait, hold on,

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:15.959
<v Speaker 1>you keep talking. I'm gonna do some math. And there

0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:18.240
<v Speaker 1>is uh if you want to go. There are different

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>um spam festivals, but I think the big daddy is

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 1>in Waikiki, the waiki Ki Spam Jam. Um. They're just

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>tell their eighth one in April, and I believe they

0:35:27.040 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 1>hold it every year in April, and that is where

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 1>lovers of spam congregate two trade recipes and uh spam

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:37.320
<v Speaker 1>related products like t shirts and mugs and Christmas ornaments

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>and just all things spam. There's spam sculpting contests to um,

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 1>how many? How how fast did that guy eat six

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 1>pounds twelve minutes? He ate um eight cans of spam,

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 1>eight twelve ounce cannons of spam in twelve minutes. Then

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>so what's that? What's the sodium in that? Oh? I

0:35:57.920 --> 0:36:00.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't do that math. Well, if that was two it

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>of your daily intake in a can. So he ate

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 1>eight of his sodium intake for the day in twelve minutes,

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>and he loved to tell about it as far as

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I know. Yeah, he's alive, and well, well let's spam.

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 1>I got nothing else. You know, I would like to

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.680
<v Speaker 1>do some time Barbie. I'll bet that would be fascinating.

0:36:21.840 --> 0:36:24.280
<v Speaker 1>That lawsuit you mentioned like made me think of Barbie.

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Mattel loves to sue anybody and everybody. They can you

0:36:27.560 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>just want to push push their buttons. No, it's just interesting. Yeah,

0:36:30.800 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>we've had um I sort of like these pop culture ones.

0:36:33.280 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>We had someone say we should do peanuts, Charles Schultz's Peanuts.

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:39.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, I looked into that and I may be

0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>writing the articles, So maybe we'll do that. That would

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 1>be awesome. Yeah, and yeah, we're long overdue for the

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Doctor Sue podcast too. Okay, well, there you go. Keep

0:36:48.680 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 1>listening because it will eventually get better. Okay, that's what

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 1>we just basically promised. If you want to learn more

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>about spam and read about Ed Grabanowski's take on it.

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.760
<v Speaker 1>He tries it the first time while he's writing this article,

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and there's a step by step picture graph of how

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:13.360
<v Speaker 1>to make fried spam and cheese sandwich. Just type spam. Actually,

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 1>we should probably do everybody a favor. Go to your

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 1>favorite search engine, type spam food and then how stuff works,

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and it will bring up the spam article. Is it

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 1>the number one hit? It's it's it's up there, but

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:30.239
<v Speaker 1>it's tough to find on our site because so much

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:34.759
<v Speaker 1>computer spam articles. Uh, do that and and then go

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:36.879
<v Speaker 1>into the handy search bar and type whatever you want.

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:39.839
<v Speaker 1>And I said handy search bar, So that means it's

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>time for listening. Mail. Yes, Josh, I'm gonna call this.

0:37:43.800 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh From Kristen, our sixteen year old fan from Toronto,

0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 1>which is in Canada. She has. She sent us a

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:53.200
<v Speaker 1>really nice email about how she listens to it with

0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:56.960
<v Speaker 1>her family and how she learns things and all the

0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>different things she's learned, And then she got to a

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:03.120
<v Speaker 1>PS which I'll skipped to PS. I've always wondered, how

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 1>do you guys distribute your information so evenly between the

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.240
<v Speaker 1>two of you. Maybe it's just me, but I remember

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 1>an elementary school almost every group presentation ended in either

0:38:12.840 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 1>tears or a fight because someone spoke more than their

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.919
<v Speaker 1>fair share. I know you guys aren't in the fifth

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:21.279
<v Speaker 1>grade anymore, but you seem like nice civil guys. But

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>be honest, have you ever had any disagreements off the

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>air over someone stealing the thunder? And if you haven't,

0:38:27.440 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>how do you avoid that? Because your listeners would want

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 1>to know? But it's on the spot. Yeah, I think

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:40.800
<v Speaker 1>it's just it's equitable. You know, some shows might speak

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:43.799
<v Speaker 1>a little more some Josh does, and it's just it

0:38:43.880 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 1>does no good. I think you grow up a little

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 1>bit and you realize this, just it's silly to think

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>of things like that. Yeah, And I think by doing that,

0:38:50.960 --> 0:38:53.760
<v Speaker 1>we've just kind of even out. And I think Also,

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:55.760
<v Speaker 1>if one of us gets the impression that we're talking

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>too much, we usually tee the other or not. Yeah,

0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:01.959
<v Speaker 1>that's to mutch it it's gonna be a boring answer,

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.879
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't it, Toda, It's it's just not being in fifth

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:08.239
<v Speaker 1>grade anymore. I think I remember. I don't think I

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 1>wanted the spotlight in the fifth grade, Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>I was one of those is like, I'll write it,

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