WEBVTT - Why Are You a Democrat? 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.520 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:18.680 me your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, 0:00:19.760 --> 0:00:24.960 you know, in yesterday's Woke Wednesday, I went off on 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:31.400 a tangent of disgust, despair, and just outright rage at 0:00:31.480 --> 0:00:35.159 the current state of the Democratic Party. I posed a 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:40.400 question which was asking why are you a Democrat? Right? 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:44.000 Because I wake up in the morning and I'm beginning 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:47.600 to ask myself this question over and over again. Why 0:00:47.680 --> 0:00:52.320 am I so dedicated to a party that is not 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:56.560 dedicated to me or my well being or actually shows 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.520 that they understand the urgency of the moment that we 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:03.760 are living in. Why do I continue to give them 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.640 the benefit of the doubt as if all they need 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.280 is more time and more votes and more people in 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:11.440 order for them to do the same old shit that 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:15.280 they've been doing for decades. We're in this situation right 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.840 now as it pertains to abortion in Roe v. Wade, 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.559 because for fifty years we thought that rules were rules 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.000 and laws were law, that no one would serve on 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.880 the Supreme Court that doesn't actually believe in precedent, that 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:35.240 doesn't actually believe in the Constitution, but then, you know, 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:37.920 we also believe that, oh, Donald Trump is going to 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:41.000 become president of the United States, and somehow he's going 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.479 to learn how to be presidential. He's going to learn 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.640 how to give a fuck, because that's what the responsibility 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:50.760 of the office means. How did that turn out? The 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:53.520 thing is is that people in power don't actually have 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:59.360 to do dick, but maintain that power, and you do 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:05.800 so by keeping a large portion of the population underserved, 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:12.760 right overregulated and underserved and in a state of consistent despair. 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.880 That then you're able to only really deal with the 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:21.600 ruling class, the money class, the donor class, that's actually 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.600 who you're catering to. And if all of those people's 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:26.639 needs are met by virtue of the fact that they 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:28.720 have that they are part of the halves and have 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:30.960 the money and the income to be able to deal 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:35.040 with inflation, right to be able to not really pay 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.920 taxes so that they can spread their money around in 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:43.360 offshore accounts, then what is happening to our democracy and 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:47.360 our rights really doesn't matter, because the rich will always 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:50.919 find a way to get richer and to preserve their 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:54.840 own independence. None of the things that are falling on 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:58.560 the rest of us, whether it is our inability to vote, 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:02.120 our inability to get an abortion are soon, our inability 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:06.639 to get contraception soon, your ability to send your child 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:10.360 to a good public school, which many of people who 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:12.680 are living in low income areas can already tell you 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:16.680 that ship is sailed. And instead we've put in form 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:20.560 profit charter schools that have no rules, no regulation, because 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.280 we believe that it's the rules and regulation that causes 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:25.960 the problem, not the fucking greed, the patriarchy, and the 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:32.840 white supremacy. On today's show, I'm going to be in 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:37.880 conversation with my friend Jennifer Toubb, who wrote this good 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:43.320 book here, Big Dirty Money, and we'll talk about the 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:47.720 fact pretty much that we're not going to see any 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.400 shakedown of Donald Trump. Donald Trump is not going to jail. 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.680 There is no will. Basically, the only person that we 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:59.440 are counting on right now is Francis Willis in Georgia, 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:02.880 which has nothing to do with Trump's money schemes, has 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:05.800 everything to do with his attempt to overthrow our election 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:10.000 and pressure the then Secretary of State who is running 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.600 for re election again, Brad Rathfinsburger, to be able to 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.160 find him eleven thy seven hundred and some odd votes. 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:20.960 Though here's the thing, though, folks, that I will say, 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:36.200 it is really hard to feel yourself losing faith. And 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.320 you know, I said this in a TikTok that I 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:44.640 did earlier in the week, where I said, you know, 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:48.839 I used to visit, you know, travel to other countries, 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:54.240 and you know, you travel around into lower Wealth of 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:59.160 Nations and you know, mostly their governments are pretty shitty, right. 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:02.360 They steal from the people, you need to pay off 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:07.200 the cops. Like you know, there's bribery, there's kidnapping. They're 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:12.880 fairly dysfunctional and are run like you know, Banana republics 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:17.880 in a lot of way. And I would look around 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.599 and I would see people just going about their days, 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:25.760 working in shops, you know, raising kids, and I would say, God, 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.720 you know, you can have a simpler life in places 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:33.320 like you know, Panama and places like Vietnam and places 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:40.560 like Portugal. And then there's this undercurrent of but what 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:45.800 does it mean to exist in countries that whose politics 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:49.719 are shady? It means that you have to do the 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:53.680 most in order to provide for your family because you 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:58.640 know that there are no safety nets. That's where we are, 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:01.520 and that's where we are. And it's not like we 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:03.680 are headed there, like we're in route. Do you know 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:05.320 what I'm saying. It's like the kids in the back 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:07.279 of the car saying, did we get there yet? Did 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:10.680 we get to authoritarianism yet? Did we get to fascism yet? Oh? No, 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:14.360 kids will be there soon, right, Like, That's pretty much 0:06:14.480 --> 0:06:19.200 what is happening here when you are seeing news reports 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:22.520 talk about the fact that a majority of people that 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:27.080 are looking to ease the economic despair that they are 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:31.919 in by going to food pantries in their neighborhoods, cities 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:36.839 and towns. And these are people who are employed, right, 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:40.160 These are people who are actually working, but by virtue 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:42.880 of where inflation is taking us, have become part of 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:46.920 the working poor, where you're having to make decisions about 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.520 how much gas you're putting in your car and how 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.120 many groceries you're going to be able to buy in 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:57.400 that same week. This is not in America I have 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:02.279 ever understood where the middle clubs now is making those 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:10.320 very clear, painful decisions. But you see, everyone else who 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:17.559 is wealthy doesn't actually give a fuck, right because their 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.800 families will still be able to access abortion they'll still 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.080 be able to figure out how to, you know, maybe 0:07:23.120 --> 0:07:25.400 get rid of one of their homes and send their 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:29.760 kids to different private schools. We are looking at a 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:34.440 version of Eleseum without us even opening up space. Yet 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:41.280 the gap, folks between the haves and the have nots 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:46.880 in this country have become so extreme. I mean, I 0:07:47.000 --> 0:07:48.680 was on the phone with my mother and saying, you know, 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:53.080 we've always had the good privilege because you know, by 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:55.960 virtue of our work, by virtue of you know, the 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.920 ability to save and do all of these things. I've 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.720 never gone into the growth store. And forgive me for 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.960 sounding very privilege, but I've never gone into the grocery 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:09.880 store and looked at the prices of things. I've just 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:13.560 picked up what I've wanted, what I have needed, and 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:18.600 then gone about my day. Millions of Americans have never 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:22.960 been able to do that, and now millions more are 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.920 unable to do that. You're listening to news reports where 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:31.520 people are talking and saying, yeah, I am now looking 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.200 at my grocery store. Listen, I'm saying, what is a 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:37.000 need on here? And what is a want? What can 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:41.360 I buy that will provide multiple meals over the course 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:45.240 of a week or two weeks versus before when I 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:49.560 just went and got what the fuck I wanted. Well, 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.800 the other day, I went to the grocery store to 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:55.160 pick up, you know, my staples. One of my staples 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.280 is always having a good quality parmesan cheese. I know 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:02.360 that sounds weird, but that is one of my staples. Well, 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:04.199 I go to pick up the parmesan cheese that I've 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.720 been buying for god only knows how long. Never looked 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.040 at the price before, but I knew it wasn't this much. 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.800 I looked at the goddamn price. Who was twelve dollars 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:16.360 and fifty cents for a fucking pint of parmesan cheese? 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:22.360 Was it graded by monks in Italy? I had to 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.560 put the ship back down and then look around for 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.200 a brand that I had never picked up before because 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:32.640 it was half the goddamn price. And I'm like, if 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:38.280 somebody like myself, who I don't consider to be in hardship, 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:42.320 is making those kinds of decisions and I live alone, 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:47.319 then like, what are families of four, five, six doing? 0:09:50.000 --> 0:09:53.600 How were they deciding what they're doing? I talked about 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.080 talked to my mom about the fact that you know, 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.480 do you remember, Well, she doesn't remember, right, but she's 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:01.560 also an immigrant to this country and that old but 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:05.600 I said, during World War two, you know, they were 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:09.360 rolling out like days like meatless mondays because the price 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:14.760 of meat had skyrocketed so much people couldn't afford it, right, 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.720 Or they're going in with another family to say, Okay, 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.520 let's get this and then let's split it up. That's 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:22.840 the kind of shit that we're dealing with right now. 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.720 People saying like, what kind of dish can I make 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.320 that can feed my family? But I don't need to 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:33.000 buy which is now like a sixteen dollar fucking thing 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:43.800 a chicken. And then what drives me crazy are people 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:47.319 like Donald Trump that don't even pay into the system, 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:51.439 people like Elon Musk that don't even pay into the system. 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.480 That all of this, all of this doesn't have to 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:58.319 be the way if only people who were uber wealthy 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:02.840 would actually pay their share. But god forbid, you have 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:07.760 politicians on either side of the aisle actually purport to 0:11:08.320 --> 0:11:13.119 care about that issue, because once again, Democrat or Republican, 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.960 they only care about the money that is coming from 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:21.440 their donors and going into their own pockets. There's a 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.080 reason why We've never been able to alter the tax 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:28.040 code when Democrats are in power because they actually don't 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:34.000 want to. It's just easier to put the blame right 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.640 on Republicans, But the blame alone does not rest on them. 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:44.439 Democrats are benefiting for an unbalanced system because they are 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:52.280 fucking wealthy. It's the greed for me, y'all. It's the 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:57.720 greed for me. It's the lack of urgency, it is 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:04.760 all of the above. And so today I find myself 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:11.120 barreling towards the end of this week, ye of little hope, 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:15.280 like I'm walking through the desert looking for a fucking 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:21.280 oasis and there's not one to be found. I don't 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.400 know what this summer is gonna bring. I can tell 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.320 you it's going to bring uber high fucking COVID numbers, 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:30.720 continually high gas prices. They say that, oh, inflation is 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.560 going to be easy, but isn't because these companies that 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:37.439 have now been offsetting their costs to the consumers who 0:12:37.480 --> 0:12:39.520 are now forced to do that. You think they're going 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.439 to roll their prices back down the way that we 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:43.760 thought the airlines were going to do when they were 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:47.120 going to stop charging for fucking overhead compartments extra leg 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:51.640 room or an extra bag. No, they haven't. I think 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.720 gas prices are all of a sudden going to fall 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.640 back to where they were pre the war in Ukraine. No, 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:02.319 because these companies are well to make money off of catastrophe. 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:07.480 When we stop that correlation, maybe then something will change, 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:15.040 But until then probably not. Coming up next, friends, my 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:20.800 conversation with our friend Jennifer tub to talk about you know, 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:24.160 Trump's legal I want to say woes, but he ain't 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.640 really woeen not even with the news out of New 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:33.319 York that says that the federal judge has released Donald 0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:39.640 Trump from I guess contempt of court so long as 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:43.400 he pays his over one hundred thousand dollars, finds that 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:47.120 he is wrapped up thus far, and you know, agrees 0:13:47.320 --> 0:13:53.240 to testify and be interviewed by the ag Well, Donald 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.160 Trump doesn't ever pay his bills. 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If you like what you here, 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:15.600 be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. Friends, 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.040 I am so happy to welcome back to will g 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:22.640 F Daily our friend, the author of Big Dirty Money, 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:26.760 The shocking injustice and unseen cost of white collar crime, 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:32.880 our friend Jennifer tub jem My God. It is great 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:38.280 to be rich, white and male in America, but really 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:43.320 anywhere on this planet. We have brought you on so 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:47.280 many times to talk about the mountain of evidence that 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:53.040 shows corruption around Donald Trump, the Trump Organization, all of 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:58.400 his accomplices. I mean, there is one breaking news story 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:03.080 after another that highlights all of the ways that while 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:06.719 Donald Trump was president as a businessman, and I use 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:10.960 that in quotations that he has violated so many laws. 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:14.880 And yet here we are a year and a half 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:21.159 after the insurrection, you know, years after following what we 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:25.320 thought was going to be a bombshell investigation by the 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:30.119 Manhattan DA that has now come to a halt. What 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:34.320 do you think is happening here with our Department of Justice, 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:41.280 the will of district attorneys? Like, what is happening? Well, 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.240 first of all, it's so good to be back, but 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:50.359 I'm really sorry that this is the topic, because you 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:54.720 know me, normally, I'm jumping right in there, ready to interrupt. 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.720 I got a lot to say, and I'm almost speechless. 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.720 I promised you I won't be speechless. But this is 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:06.120 a very, very heavy weight. And you began by talking 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:12.200 about those privileges. You know that if you're a white male, wealthy, 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:15.159 well connected, you can almost get away with anything. And 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.520 I just think, you know, I check a lot of 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:21.320 those boxes. I think if I had male privilege, I'd 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.440 be a fucking nightmare. I mean, the amount of power 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.320 that a certain kind of status gives you, the amount 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.440 of access you know it gives you. And I will 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.760 tell you, you know when I need to, when I'm 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.600 you know, I think of myself is more of a 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.840 writer and journalist than I think of myself as a 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:42.879 lawyer or law professor. As I like to say, you know, 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:46.879 law is my palette, you know, for talking about policy, 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:50.800 for talking about the human condition, for writing narrative, right, 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.560 And so sometimes when I'm acting like a journalist, you know, 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.120 you do what you do to get access. And I'll 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.840 tell you I get a lot of access in the 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:03.080 world based on the as privileges um. And I also 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:09.000 see as you're observing, how high the bar is to 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:15.879 hold certain people accountable, you know. And when you talk about, 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.440 you know, someone like Donald Trump, we you know, we've 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:24.280 pre set the table of an entire adult life of 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:30.720 somebody acting like many of his brethren, kind of doing 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:35.920 what they want. You know, laws are for the little people. Now, 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:38.760 when Leona Holmes, they said taxes were for the little people. 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:42.159 That didn't help her, right, she went to prison, Martha 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:49.280 Stewart went to prison. They seem there's something different, is 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:51.879 it the uterus? No? I mean, but you know you 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:57.840 and you know there there are so so we set this. 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.119 We start out with this person being who he is 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:03.480 and getting away with it again and again and again, 0:20:04.160 --> 0:20:08.159 and when it when people with power could hold him accountable, 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:12.800 and then they don't, you know, he just gets more emboldened, 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:14.560 you know. And so again I'm saying, I'm going to 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.480 get to the questions that you ask, but let's just remember, 0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:19.919 you know, I was really glad. I'm sure you were 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:24.440 that twice the House impeached Trump when necessary. But when 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:27.280 when you look at those acquittals in the Senate, I 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.119 can't even I think it was was it after the 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.760 first impeachment not the second one? I can't remember when 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:37.440 when Susan Collins said, oh, I think he's learned his lessons, 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.520 learned the lessons. Direction, yes, he did, but see here 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:43.240 the thing is, she is correct. He learned the lesson 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:46.719 of what are they going to do about it? Right, 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:50.000 the lesson of what's the penalty and who's going to 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:52.240 enforce it? And so let me bring us to today, 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.480 and again your main question is will anyone hold these 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:58.720 people accountable? What's happening at the Department of Justice, excent. 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:00.480 I'm going to get to what's happening, but you know, 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:03.680 in the news there was yet another former public official 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:08.440 who decided to cash in on their access after they 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:13.880 left office. You know, do you feel nauseous as I'm saying, 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:19.800 I can't even get that. It's because I have screamed 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:25.600 about this on television recently. I am so sick and 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:32.000 tired of these people, Mark esper Yes being the latest 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:38.440 to be able to sell what they knew. Right. He 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:42.399 calls his book this sacred Oath. Jen, It's called the 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:46.040 Sacred Oath, And I'm like, you took an oath to capitalism, 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.040 not interest in this country and I and so here's 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.280 the deal. I understand while he was in office, if 0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:53.119 he was trying to you know, there's a moment when 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:55.280 he was in office, and that ended in December, right 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:59.439 of twenty twenty twenty three. That was the moment to 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:01.600 speak out right, I get that when you're in office 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:03.119 and you're trying to hold down the ford, if we 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:05.720 want to believe that. But you know, that was a 0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:09.360 long time ago. That was over a year ago. And yes, 0:22:09.440 --> 0:22:12.200 I understand that you get a bigger book advance if 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:15.320 you keep your secrets. You know, I write books. I 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:19.600 understand that, you know, but you know, selling your soul really, 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.560 you know, and you shouldn't be using you know, access 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:26.200 it's that you know, to to do this, So you 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:29.280 should have spoken out earlier. But let's get to what 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.120 the thing that One of the things that struck me. 0:22:32.200 --> 0:22:35.360 I think it was he who when you know one 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:39.080 of the book excerpts that's been written about that at 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:43.639 one point I get which I forget which protests. It 0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:45.560 could have been when Trump was on the campaign trail, 0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:49.280 or it might have been the stuff happening, um, you know, 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:56.000 during the the the protests around the Capitol building. I 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:59.520 can't remember which one, but his suggestion was, well, let's 0:22:59.520 --> 0:23:04.080 just shoot them in the legs. Yeah, I mean, I'm 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:06.320 watching your face. And to me he said to him, 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:10.000 we can't that. You can't do that or or or 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:11.840 such a or whatever it was. Someone said, you can't 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:13.400 do that. That That would be a war. Climer, you can't 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.800 do that. That would be illegal, And he said, who's 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:21.520 gonna prosecute Who's Which is the same thing that Don 0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:26.760 Trump Junior said when he said we own all the 0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:33.600 paths to power when he was not avenues to keep 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:38.800 his father in the White House regardless of what the 0:23:38.920 --> 0:23:42.800 voters had said, and they were entirely right about who, 0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:48.840 but they still they still didn't they still didn't count 0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:55.440 on Mike Pence not buckling, but they haven't given up. 0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:57.240 I mean, we think you know, I'm sure you're I 0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.760 haven't talked to you or watch your podcast in a 0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:03.760 while because I've been running around, but I imagine based 0:24:03.760 --> 0:24:05.920 on your Twitter feed and knowing you that you get 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:11.600 the insurrection is ongoing. Yes, I mean, I've said I have, 0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:14.720 I'm in the and this is the only thing really 0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:18.040 that I agree with Bill maher On. But when he said, 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:23.399 you know, last year, six months after the insurrection and 0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:26.440 nothing had happened, He's like, this is a slow moving coup, 0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:30.960 and let's be honest, it's not that slow moving, right 0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:35.120 like it it's actually accelerating because there has not been 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:39.040 a point of accountability other than the foot soldiers that 0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:42.720 were actually on the ground. And then you know, you 0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:47.000 have the one head of the oath keepers who wasn't 0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:52.120 there physically present at the Capitol building, but it's now 0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:54.840 been indicted. But when we're at a year and a 0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:59.440 half mark and the architects of said indictment has nothing 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:03.680 has happened. You have Jenny Thomas, who is the friggin' 0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:06.800 wife of a sitting Supreme Court justice who was on 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:09.919 the phone with the Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, to 0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:13.680 say we got to do something here, and essentially being 0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:16.800 one of the voices that are that are echoing the 0:25:16.920 --> 0:25:22.080 term martial law, like again, what do we think? Where 0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:24.879 do we think this is going? So here's a deal, 0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:28.320 and I'm going to get to the institutions of justice 0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:31.560 for a moment. But at this point I'm going to 0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:35.080 say something almost machiavellian, which is, it doesn't even matter. 0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.280 I'm now looking at lad I'm sorry it matters. I'm 0:25:38.280 --> 0:25:41.359 sorry it matters. But let me just let me speak theoretically, 0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:44.920 which is, look at Vladimir Putin and his big life. Right, 0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:51.000 he's telling a story of his perspective about empire, and 0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:55.720 he will lie to make the people in Russia feel 0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:59.679 more comfortable, claiming he's denazifying Ukraine. The reality is he 0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.639 is invaded a sovereign nation to try to take it over. 0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:06.800 His story of history is well, we should never have 0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:10.080 lost it, but you know, Soviet Union did break up. 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:13.440 That really happened, and the world came to a conclusion. Similarly, 0:26:14.040 --> 0:26:16.640 I mean Trump's going to keep doing what he does, 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:23.119 even if he is indicted by Fulton County, even if 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:28.840 he is indicted by US Department of Justice, it won't 0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:33.280 matter because he I mean, it matters. But the reality 0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:38.560 is we have a bigger propaganda problem among his disciples 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:43.919 and his wannabes. Ted Cruz, who is a monster in 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.359 every way and a liar by the way, he's always 0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:49.800 saying that he got the highest grade from his constitutional 0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:53.000 law professor Larry Tribe, Ted Whiz, I think a year 0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:56.040 behind me or two years behind me in law school. 0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.399 I don't think that's actually true. He might want to 0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:02.760 show the ince of that he's an idiot, but I okay, 0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:06.159