1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with 2 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: me your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: you know, in yesterday's Woke Wednesday, I went off on 4 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: a tangent of disgust, despair, and just outright rage at 5 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: the current state of the Democratic Party. I posed a 6 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: question which was asking why are you a Democrat? Right? 7 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Because I wake up in the morning and I'm beginning 8 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: to ask myself this question over and over again. Why 9 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: am I so dedicated to a party that is not 10 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: dedicated to me or my well being or actually shows 11 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: that they understand the urgency of the moment that we 12 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 1: are living in. Why do I continue to give them 13 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt as if all they need 14 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: is more time and more votes and more people in 15 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: order for them to do the same old shit that 16 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: they've been doing for decades. We're in this situation right 17 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: now as it pertains to abortion in Roe v. Wade, 18 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: because for fifty years we thought that rules were rules 19 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: and laws were law, that no one would serve on 20 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court that doesn't actually believe in precedent, that 21 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: doesn't actually believe in the Constitution, but then, you know, 22 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: we also believe that, oh, Donald Trump is going to 23 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: become president of the United States, and somehow he's going 24 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 1: to learn how to be presidential. He's going to learn 25 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: how to give a fuck, because that's what the responsibility 26 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: of the office means. How did that turn out? The 27 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: thing is is that people in power don't actually have 28 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: to do dick, but maintain that power, and you do 29 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: so by keeping a large portion of the population underserved, 30 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: right overregulated and underserved and in a state of consistent despair. 31 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: That then you're able to only really deal with the 32 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: ruling class, the money class, the donor class, that's actually 33 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: who you're catering to. And if all of those people's 34 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: needs are met by virtue of the fact that they 35 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: have that they are part of the halves and have 36 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: the money and the income to be able to deal 37 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: with inflation, right to be able to not really pay 38 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: taxes so that they can spread their money around in 39 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: offshore accounts, then what is happening to our democracy and 40 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: our rights really doesn't matter, because the rich will always 41 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: find a way to get richer and to preserve their 42 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: own independence. None of the things that are falling on 43 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: the rest of us, whether it is our inability to vote, 44 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: our inability to get an abortion are soon, our inability 45 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: to get contraception soon, your ability to send your child 46 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: to a good public school, which many of people who 47 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: are living in low income areas can already tell you 48 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: that ship is sailed. And instead we've put in form 49 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: profit charter schools that have no rules, no regulation, because 50 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: we believe that it's the rules and regulation that causes 51 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: the problem, not the fucking greed, the patriarchy, and the 52 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: white supremacy. On today's show, I'm going to be in 53 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: conversation with my friend Jennifer Toubb, who wrote this good 54 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: book here, Big Dirty Money, and we'll talk about the 55 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: fact pretty much that we're not going to see any 56 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: shakedown of Donald Trump. Donald Trump is not going to jail. 57 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: There is no will. Basically, the only person that we 58 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: are counting on right now is Francis Willis in Georgia, 59 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: which has nothing to do with Trump's money schemes, has 60 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: everything to do with his attempt to overthrow our election 61 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: and pressure the then Secretary of State who is running 62 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: for re election again, Brad Rathfinsburger, to be able to 63 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: find him eleven thy seven hundred and some odd votes. 64 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: Though here's the thing, though, folks, that I will say, 65 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: it is really hard to feel yourself losing faith. And 66 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: you know, I said this in a TikTok that I 67 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: did earlier in the week, where I said, you know, 68 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: I used to visit, you know, travel to other countries, 69 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: and you know, you travel around into lower Wealth of 70 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: Nations and you know, mostly their governments are pretty shitty, right. 71 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: They steal from the people, you need to pay off 72 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: the cops. Like you know, there's bribery, there's kidnapping. They're 73 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: fairly dysfunctional and are run like you know, Banana republics 74 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: in a lot of way. And I would look around 75 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: and I would see people just going about their days, 76 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: working in shops, you know, raising kids, and I would say, God, 77 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: you know, you can have a simpler life in places 78 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: like you know, Panama and places like Vietnam and places 79 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: like Portugal. And then there's this undercurrent of but what 80 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: does it mean to exist in countries that whose politics 81 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: are shady? It means that you have to do the 82 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: most in order to provide for your family because you 83 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: know that there are no safety nets. That's where we are, 84 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: and that's where we are. And it's not like we 85 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: are headed there, like we're in route. Do you know 86 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like the kids in the back 87 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: of the car saying, did we get there yet? Did 88 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: we get to authoritarianism yet? Did we get to fascism yet? Oh? No, 89 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: kids will be there soon, right, Like, That's pretty much 90 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: what is happening here when you are seeing news reports 91 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: talk about the fact that a majority of people that 92 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: are looking to ease the economic despair that they are 93 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: in by going to food pantries in their neighborhoods, cities 94 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: and towns. And these are people who are employed, right, 95 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: These are people who are actually working, but by virtue 96 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: of where inflation is taking us, have become part of 97 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: the working poor, where you're having to make decisions about 98 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: how much gas you're putting in your car and how 99 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: many groceries you're going to be able to buy in 100 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: that same week. This is not in America I have 101 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: ever understood where the middle clubs now is making those 102 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: very clear, painful decisions. But you see, everyone else who 103 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 1: is wealthy doesn't actually give a fuck, right because their 104 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: families will still be able to access abortion they'll still 105 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: be able to figure out how to, you know, maybe 106 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: get rid of one of their homes and send their 107 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: kids to different private schools. We are looking at a 108 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: version of Eleseum without us even opening up space. Yet 109 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: the gap, folks between the haves and the have nots 110 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: in this country have become so extreme. I mean, I 111 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: was on the phone with my mother and saying, you know, 112 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: we've always had the good privilege because you know, by 113 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: virtue of our work, by virtue of you know, the 114 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: ability to save and do all of these things. I've 115 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: never gone into the growth store. And forgive me for 116 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: sounding very privilege, but I've never gone into the grocery 117 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: store and looked at the prices of things. I've just 118 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: picked up what I've wanted, what I have needed, and 119 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: then gone about my day. Millions of Americans have never 120 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: been able to do that, and now millions more are 121 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: unable to do that. You're listening to news reports where 122 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: people are talking and saying, yeah, I am now looking 123 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: at my grocery store. Listen, I'm saying, what is a 124 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: need on here? And what is a want? What can 125 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: I buy that will provide multiple meals over the course 126 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: of a week or two weeks versus before when I 127 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: just went and got what the fuck I wanted. Well, 128 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: the other day, I went to the grocery store to 129 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: pick up, you know, my staples. One of my staples 130 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: is always having a good quality parmesan cheese. I know 131 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: that sounds weird, but that is one of my staples. Well, 132 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: I go to pick up the parmesan cheese that I've 133 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: been buying for god only knows how long. Never looked 134 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: at the price before, but I knew it wasn't this much. 135 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: I looked at the goddamn price. Who was twelve dollars 136 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: and fifty cents for a fucking pint of parmesan cheese? 137 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: Was it graded by monks in Italy? I had to 138 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: put the ship back down and then look around for 139 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: a brand that I had never picked up before because 140 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: it was half the goddamn price. And I'm like, if 141 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: somebody like myself, who I don't consider to be in hardship, 142 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: is making those kinds of decisions and I live alone, 143 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 1: then like, what are families of four, five, six doing? 144 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: How were they deciding what they're doing? I talked about 145 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: talked to my mom about the fact that you know, 146 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: do you remember, Well, she doesn't remember, right, but she's 147 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: also an immigrant to this country and that old but 148 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: I said, during World War two, you know, they were 149 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: rolling out like days like meatless mondays because the price 150 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: of meat had skyrocketed so much people couldn't afford it, right, 151 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: Or they're going in with another family to say, Okay, 152 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: let's get this and then let's split it up. That's 153 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: the kind of shit that we're dealing with right now. 154 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: People saying like, what kind of dish can I make 155 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: that can feed my family? But I don't need to 156 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: buy which is now like a sixteen dollar fucking thing 157 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: a chicken. And then what drives me crazy are people 158 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,319 Speaker 1: like Donald Trump that don't even pay into the system, 159 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: people like Elon Musk that don't even pay into the system. 160 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: That all of this, all of this doesn't have to 161 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: be the way if only people who were uber wealthy 162 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: would actually pay their share. But god forbid, you have 163 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: politicians on either side of the aisle actually purport to 164 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:13,119 Speaker 1: care about that issue, because once again, Democrat or Republican, 165 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: they only care about the money that is coming from 166 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: their donors and going into their own pockets. There's a 167 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: reason why We've never been able to alter the tax 168 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: code when Democrats are in power because they actually don't 169 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: want to. It's just easier to put the blame right 170 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: on Republicans, But the blame alone does not rest on them. 171 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: Democrats are benefiting for an unbalanced system because they are 172 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: fucking wealthy. It's the greed for me, y'all. It's the 173 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: greed for me. It's the lack of urgency, it is 174 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: all of the above. And so today I find myself 175 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: barreling towards the end of this week, ye of little hope, 176 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: like I'm walking through the desert looking for a fucking 177 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: oasis and there's not one to be found. I don't 178 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: know what this summer is gonna bring. I can tell 179 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: you it's going to bring uber high fucking COVID numbers, 180 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: continually high gas prices. They say that, oh, inflation is 181 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: going to be easy, but isn't because these companies that 182 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: have now been offsetting their costs to the consumers who 183 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: are now forced to do that. You think they're going 184 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: to roll their prices back down the way that we 185 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: thought the airlines were going to do when they were 186 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: going to stop charging for fucking overhead compartments extra leg 187 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: room or an extra bag. No, they haven't. I think 188 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: gas prices are all of a sudden going to fall 189 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: back to where they were pre the war in Ukraine. No, 190 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: because these companies are well to make money off of catastrophe. 191 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: When we stop that correlation, maybe then something will change, 192 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: But until then probably not. Coming up next, friends, my 193 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: conversation with our friend Jennifer tub to talk about you know, 194 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: Trump's legal I want to say woes, but he ain't 195 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: really woeen not even with the news out of New 196 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: York that says that the federal judge has released Donald 197 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: Trump from I guess contempt of court so long as 198 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: he pays his over one hundred thousand dollars, finds that 199 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: he is wrapped up thus far, and you know, agrees 200 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: to testify and be interviewed by the ag Well, Donald 201 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: Trump doesn't ever pay his bills. Everybody fucking knows that, 202 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: including the people that he owes money to and test 203 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: defy and actually tell the truth. Yeah. I don't see 204 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: that happening either. So while the reports want to say 205 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: this looks like a win for Letitia James, I'll wait 206 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: and see indisputable. With doctor Rashid Ricci is one of 207 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: the latest shows on the TYT Network and also the 208 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: fastest growing news show in America. 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If you like what you here, 234 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: be sure to subscribe so you never miss an episode. Friends, 235 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: I am so happy to welcome back to will g 236 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: F Daily our friend, the author of Big Dirty Money, 237 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: The shocking injustice and unseen cost of white collar crime, 238 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: our friend Jennifer tub jem My God. It is great 239 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: to be rich, white and male in America, but really 240 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: anywhere on this planet. We have brought you on so 241 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: many times to talk about the mountain of evidence that 242 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: shows corruption around Donald Trump, the Trump Organization, all of 243 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: his accomplices. I mean, there is one breaking news story 244 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: after another that highlights all of the ways that while 245 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,719 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was president as a businessman, and I use 246 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: that in quotations that he has violated so many laws. 247 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: And yet here we are a year and a half 248 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: after the insurrection, you know, years after following what we 249 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: thought was going to be a bombshell investigation by the 250 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: Manhattan DA that has now come to a halt. What 251 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: do you think is happening here with our Department of Justice, 252 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: the will of district attorneys? Like, what is happening? Well, 253 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: first of all, it's so good to be back, but 254 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm really sorry that this is the topic, because you 255 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: know me, normally, I'm jumping right in there, ready to interrupt. 256 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: I got a lot to say, and I'm almost speechless. 257 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: I promised you I won't be speechless. But this is 258 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: a very, very heavy weight. And you began by talking 259 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: about those privileges. You know that if you're a white male, wealthy, 260 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: well connected, you can almost get away with anything. And 261 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: I just think, you know, I check a lot of 262 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: those boxes. I think if I had male privilege, I'd 263 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 1: be a fucking nightmare. I mean, the amount of power 264 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: that a certain kind of status gives you, the amount 265 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: of access you know it gives you. And I will 266 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: tell you, you know when I need to, when I'm 267 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, I think of myself is more of a 268 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: writer and journalist than I think of myself as a 269 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: lawyer or law professor. As I like to say, you know, 270 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: law is my palette, you know, for talking about policy, 271 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: for talking about the human condition, for writing narrative, right, 272 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: And so sometimes when I'm acting like a journalist, you know, 273 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: you do what you do to get access. And I'll 274 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: tell you I get a lot of access in the 275 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: world based on the as privileges um. And I also 276 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: see as you're observing, how high the bar is to 277 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: hold certain people accountable, you know. And when you talk about, 278 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: you know, someone like Donald Trump, we you know, we've 279 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: pre set the table of an entire adult life of 280 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: somebody acting like many of his brethren, kind of doing 281 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: what they want. You know, laws are for the little people. Now, 282 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: when Leona Holmes, they said taxes were for the little people. 283 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: That didn't help her, right, she went to prison, Martha 284 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: Stewart went to prison. They seem there's something different, is 285 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: it the uterus? No? I mean, but you know you 286 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: and you know there there are so so we set this. 287 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: We start out with this person being who he is 288 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: and getting away with it again and again and again, 289 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: and when it when people with power could hold him accountable, 290 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: and then they don't, you know, he just gets more emboldened, 291 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: you know. And so again I'm saying, I'm going to 292 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: get to the questions that you ask, but let's just remember, 293 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: you know, I was really glad. I'm sure you were 294 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: that twice the House impeached Trump when necessary. But when 295 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: when you look at those acquittals in the Senate, I 296 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: can't even I think it was was it after the 297 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: first impeachment not the second one? I can't remember when 298 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: when Susan Collins said, oh, I think he's learned his lessons, 299 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: learned the lessons. Direction, yes, he did, but see here 300 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: the thing is, she is correct. He learned the lesson 301 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 1: of what are they going to do about it? Right, 302 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: the lesson of what's the penalty and who's going to 303 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: enforce it? And so let me bring us to today, 304 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: and again your main question is will anyone hold these 305 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: people accountable? What's happening at the Department of Justice, excent. 306 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to get to what's happening, but you know, 307 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: in the news there was yet another former public official 308 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: who decided to cash in on their access after they 309 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: left office. You know, do you feel nauseous as I'm saying, 310 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: I can't even get that. It's because I have screamed 311 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: about this on television recently. I am so sick and 312 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: tired of these people, Mark esper Yes being the latest 313 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: to be able to sell what they knew. Right. He 314 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: calls his book this sacred Oath. Jen, It's called the 315 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: Sacred Oath, And I'm like, you took an oath to capitalism, 316 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: not interest in this country and I and so here's 317 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: the deal. I understand while he was in office, if 318 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: he was trying to you know, there's a moment when 319 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: he was in office, and that ended in December, right 320 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty twenty three. That was the moment to 321 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: speak out right, I get that when you're in office 322 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: and you're trying to hold down the ford, if we 323 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 1: want to believe that. But you know, that was a 324 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: long time ago. That was over a year ago. And yes, 325 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: I understand that you get a bigger book advance if 326 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: you keep your secrets. You know, I write books. I 327 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: understand that, you know, but you know, selling your soul really, 328 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, and you shouldn't be using you know, access 329 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: it's that you know, to to do this, So you 330 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: should have spoken out earlier. But let's get to what 331 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: the thing that One of the things that struck me. 332 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: I think it was he who when you know one 333 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: of the book excerpts that's been written about that at 334 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: one point I get which I forget which protests. It 335 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: could have been when Trump was on the campaign trail, 336 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: or it might have been the stuff happening, um, you know, 337 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: during the the the protests around the Capitol building. I 338 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: can't remember which one, but his suggestion was, well, let's 339 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: just shoot them in the legs. Yeah, I mean, I'm 340 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: watching your face. And to me he said to him, 341 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: we can't that. You can't do that or or or 342 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: such a or whatever it was. Someone said, you can't 343 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: do that. That That would be a war. Climer, you can't 344 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: do that. That would be illegal, And he said, who's 345 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: gonna prosecute Who's Which is the same thing that Don 346 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: Trump Junior said when he said we own all the 347 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: paths to power when he was not avenues to keep 348 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: his father in the White House regardless of what the 349 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: voters had said, and they were entirely right about who, 350 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: but they still they still didn't they still didn't count 351 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: on Mike Pence not buckling, but they haven't given up. 352 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we think you know, I'm sure you're I 353 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: haven't talked to you or watch your podcast in a 354 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: while because I've been running around, but I imagine based 355 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: on your Twitter feed and knowing you that you get 356 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: the insurrection is ongoing. Yes, I mean, I've said I have, 357 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm in the and this is the only thing really 358 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: that I agree with Bill maher On. But when he said, 359 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: you know, last year, six months after the insurrection and 360 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: nothing had happened, He's like, this is a slow moving coup, 361 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 1: and let's be honest, it's not that slow moving, right 362 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: like it it's actually accelerating because there has not been 363 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: a point of accountability other than the foot soldiers that 364 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: were actually on the ground. And then you know, you 365 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: have the one head of the oath keepers who wasn't 366 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: there physically present at the Capitol building, but it's now 367 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: been indicted. But when we're at a year and a 368 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: half mark and the architects of said indictment has nothing 369 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: has happened. You have Jenny Thomas, who is the friggin' 370 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: wife of a sitting Supreme Court justice who was on 371 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: the phone with the Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, to 372 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: say we got to do something here, and essentially being 373 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: one of the voices that are that are echoing the 374 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: term martial law, like again, what do we think? Where 375 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: do we think this is going? So here's a deal, 376 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: and I'm going to get to the institutions of justice 377 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: for a moment. But at this point I'm going to 378 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: say something almost machiavellian, which is, it doesn't even matter. 379 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm now looking at lad I'm sorry it matters. I'm 380 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: sorry it matters. But let me just let me speak theoretically, 381 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: which is, look at Vladimir Putin and his big life. Right, 382 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: he's telling a story of his perspective about empire, and 383 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: he will lie to make the people in Russia feel 384 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: more comfortable, claiming he's denazifying Ukraine. The reality is he 385 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: is invaded a sovereign nation to try to take it over. 386 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: His story of history is well, we should never have 387 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: lost it, but you know, Soviet Union did break up. 388 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: That really happened, and the world came to a conclusion. Similarly, 389 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: I mean Trump's going to keep doing what he does, 390 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: even if he is indicted by Fulton County, even if 391 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: he is indicted by US Department of Justice, it won't 392 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: matter because he I mean, it matters. But the reality 393 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: is we have a bigger propaganda problem among his disciples 394 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: and his wannabes. Ted Cruz, who is a monster in 395 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: every way and a liar by the way, he's always 396 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: saying that he got the highest grade from his constitutional 397 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: law professor Larry Tribe, Ted Whiz, I think a year 398 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: behind me or two years behind me in law school. 399 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: I don't think that's actually true. He might want to 400 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: show the ince of that he's an idiot, but I okay, 401 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: But what he just said the other day, you know, 402 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: people are peacefully holding vigils outside of Supreme Court justices houses, 403 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, First Amendment whatever. I don't have an opinion 404 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: one way or another. I'm not going to tell people 405 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: to do or not do what they want to do. 406 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: He actually said that they were being violent and compared 407 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: it to the protests on January sixth and the insurrection 408 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: and the breaking of windows and the beating of police officers, 409 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: and said it was worse. Right, So we have a 410 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: society where we have people in the mainstream Republican Party 411 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: perpetuating the Big Lion propaganda and and supporting marital rape 412 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: and rape of children and incest and forced birth and 413 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: all this stuff. So I don't even when you say 414 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: to me, will anyone hold Trump accountable? I'm kind of 415 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: like that horse has left the bar. I mean, I 416 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: you know that is my You know, I care about 417 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: the enforcement of white collar criminal law. I care about 418 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: what's going on in the Justice Department. I do think, 419 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: you know, it's going to really hinge on the testimony 420 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: of people around him. But you know, the problem is 421 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: he's like a mob boss. He does an email, he 422 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: doesn't text, and he will deny, deny, deny, and he's 423 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: smart enough. Trump is to tell people this should happen, 424 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 1: and I want that to happen, but never actually saying 425 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: I need you to do this. And if he only 426 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: puts people around him who he can later say our suspect. 427 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: He hires a lot of criminals and thugs and people 428 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: who have gone along with him for years, he'll just 429 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: claim that they are lying. I mean, he threw Michael 430 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: Cohen under the bus or Michael jumped under the bus, 431 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. And now you know, the argument 432 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: is one, let's go back to the prosecutions the Manhattan 433 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: DA Supposedly he doesn't think he has a case because 434 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't think Michael Cohone will make a good witness. 435 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: I think Michael Cohoon will make an excellent witness. Prosecutors know, 436 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: they say, Look, I mean Michael Cohone would readily admit 437 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: that he was with this guy for years. He paid 438 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: off Stormy Daniels, There's a lot he did that was wrong. 439 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: But Donald Trump would only surround himself by birds of 440 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: a feather. I think he could be a good witness. 441 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: I think this history will tell that someone got to 442 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: this guy. I could be wrong. I don't want to 443 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: defame anyone, but there is a long history of these 444 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: Manhattan DA's who they have stuck on. And I'm not 445 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: saying there is anything I'm this guy, but there's a 446 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: hist Oh no, I have said it. You don't have 447 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: to say it. I have said it because I have 448 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: said multiple times. You know, if the laws that we 449 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: have right are cracked in such a way that we 450 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: know that Donald Trump is doing things that are illegal, 451 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: but oh but we can't seem to get him, then 452 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: they something wrong with the loss. So that's that's number one. 453 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: Number two. Number two is that, you know, as it 454 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: pertains to the Manhattan as it pertains to Alvin Bragg, 455 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: your predecessor called for a special grand jury because the 456 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: mountains of evidence were that were thus that you the 457 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: people needed more time to be able to go through 458 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: all of the evidence that was present. So when you 459 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: come in and then you whether you tell them directly, 460 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: whether you suggest that this case is going to be 461 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: dead in the water, and your two highest pro prosecutors 462 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: decide to quit, I say, follow the money. This is 463 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: not that hard to do. Follow as figure out who 464 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg's donors were. Right like this, this is not 465 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: rocket science, but no one has done it. There's also though, 466 00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 1: remember with Schneiderman, the stuff when he was in the 467 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: Trump University case, which ends up being just a settlement. 468 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: There's all I wrote about in my book. But you 469 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: know Trump had information about Schneiderman. You know, Yes, why 470 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: do we think that Schneiderman is gone? Like these things 471 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: did not These things have not happened by accident. The 472 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: things that all of a sudden came to the public's 473 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: understanding about these people who all had ties into prosecuting 474 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and these men. I'm not saying that these 475 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: men are should still be in office, or like what 476 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: their behavior was that they were caught in should be excused. 477 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: But why the hell do we think that at a 478 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: particular point you find out all this shit about Eric Sneiderman. 479 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: Why do you think that at a particular point you 480 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: find out all these things about Cuomo? It's not accident, right, 481 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: And the same thing with um, oh god, what was 482 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: his name? Elliott Spitzer? But how are Madison? So let's 483 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: just use Madison clauthor an example. What this OPA wasn't 484 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: here before exactly going to Hitler's like retreat. Uh, that's fine, idiot, 485 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: that's cool. All this ship being a misogynist, being an 486 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: alleged sexual harasser, We're good with the minute they don't 487 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: want him around because I think he's a liability. All 488 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: of a sudden the APPO comes out. Who I mean, 489 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: I got a long list, maybe some shot because there's 490 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: some people who press the button, they will come there 491 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: and say the most outrageous things in support of whomever. 492 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: You know. So it's really what I want to know 493 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: is why don't the Democrats have this OPA on people? Girl? 494 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: Or is there a little bit of a like we 495 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: don't let me ask you this question. Is it kind 496 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: of like we don't go to the justice's houses and 497 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: we don't we don't give anyone else's APPA on the 498 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: other side because there'd be an APPA war. Let me 499 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: tell you something. Let me tell you something. This whole 500 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: desire that I feel that Democrats have in order to 501 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: take the fucking high road, right, like always wanting to 502 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: take the high road. Oh, this is not who we are. 503 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: This is exactly how you lose a war, right, war 504 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: is not clean and I and the problem here is 505 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: that Democrats don't realize that Republicans have been waging war 506 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: on them for the last five decades, right, And so 507 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: you we as the establishment Democrats have continued to believe 508 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: that if we are nice enough, if we follow the 509 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: rule of law, then we're going to show the American 510 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: people blah blah blah blah blah. And what I'm saying 511 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: is these people have taken the gloves off. They are 512 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 1: coming for your jugular and you're gonna have information and 513 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: think that you're not going to use it, right because 514 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: what But I just want to say, let me just 515 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: like a nuance this can I use nuance as a 516 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: verb I'm a new one. Yes, okay, well Finesse I 517 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: like nuance better. So here's a deal. I'm from the Midwest. 518 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: I can be nice while I stabbed someone in the back. Like, 519 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: there's no reason why you cannot be polite. No, I'm kidding. No, 520 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is like, because Democrats, somehow I think 521 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: you can't use these tools. Well I'm saying is you 522 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: can be polite in person and just say look, you know, 523 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: I see you sitting across from me. We've worked together before. 524 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: But the reality is your policies are killing people and 525 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: I'm going to use every tool I can to stop you. 526 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: And that's that's polite, that's politics. I didn't McConnell like, 527 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: where is our ruthless Connel? I don't see you know, 528 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: And okay, I want to I want to dial back 529 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: to talk about the cases. So last night, when I 530 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: was having insomnia and I saw that young Thug was 531 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: indicted or arrested out of Bolton County, first I said, 532 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: who's young Thug? Because I'm not. And then I'm like, 533 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: because I know Ari Melbourne, and I'm like, wow, he 534 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: has like millions of followers. He must be a big deal. 535 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: And then I saw because I like to research these things, 536 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: that he collaborated or help write the song that won 537 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: the Grammy called you know what, I mean, what was 538 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: his fault? Young? What's his name? Song? I'm not gonna okay, 539 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about the music. But this 540 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: guy's arrested with a bunch of other people were indicted 541 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: for these racketeering charges out of the same office that 542 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 1: is investigating Donald Trump and has a grand jury. I 543 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: think she's gonna Endice. I mean, how can you? Francis 544 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: Willis is the only hope that we have. She's the 545 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: only hope we have. That's it. And you know, and 546 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: and and the reality is that between her and Tish James, 547 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: whose case is not criminal in nature but is civil, 548 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 1: it is going to be between the two of them 549 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: because all of the men that have been in charge 550 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: of the of these cases are have failed and or 551 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 1: are currently failing. And I when I say currently failing, 552 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm particularly talking about Merrick Garland. Right, So, there is 553 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 1: only so much time that people have to wait to 554 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: see that the rules do not apply. If you are 555 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: rich and white and well connected, they do not apply 556 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: to you. Right, They get to create the rules, they 557 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: get to evade the rules, and then they get to 558 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: they get to persecute under other people to the fullest 559 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: extent of the law, under the rules that they have 560 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: created that are for everyone else but not for them. 561 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: And the longer that we like to me, the longer 562 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: that we go through these stages of how we unravel 563 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: our faith and integrity in these systems, the more and 564 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: more we're going to move into a place of violence 565 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: and lawlessness in this country. I am so glad you 566 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: said all of that. And there are people who will 567 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: say to you or me or anyone on Twitter, don't 568 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: be so impatient. Look at all these and let me 569 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: read this like footnote in here. You know what I'm 570 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: talking about. Oh, look at this, all these people, they're 571 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: rolling people up and listen. I would have more faith 572 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: in the investigation of Donald Trump around both the insurrection 573 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: and the plot before that. I would have more faith 574 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: in the Department of Justices efforts there had I seen 575 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: any one single charge against Trump based on the Molo report, 576 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: had I seen the Department of Justice really live up 577 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: to its promises on white color crime and really great 578 00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: speeches when in fact and in contrast, if you look 579 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: at the speeches about seizing yachts. We have seized two 580 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: Russian's yachts right with civil forfeitsure. And you hear the 581 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 1: bull ass speeches about like doesn't matter where you go, 582 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: we will get you. I'm like, what about if you're 583 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,399 Speaker 1: an American man though, instead of a Russian oil gard 584 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: What if you're an American kleptocrat. I know we've got 585 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: the Klepto Capture task Force, how about the Klepto Trumpo 586 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: task Force? And I know they're focused, and I know 587 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: this is hard, but it's taking too long. And by 588 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: the way, I just want to say one thing. Brag 589 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: out of the Manhattan Day's Office. When it was the 590 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 1: first charges under sivance against Donald Trump's organization and against Weisslberg. 591 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure you remember the reference to the fact that 592 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: this was also federal tax fraud. I cage federal tax fraud. 593 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 1: People have been indicted in convictions upheld on less than 594 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: what was there? Where the hell is a DOJ on 595 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 1: those charges? Your guess is as good as mine, Jennifer, 596 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: your guests is as good as mine. I gotta tell you, 597 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much for making the time to 598 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: join us on. Okay, and you have to come back 599 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: because until because I believe again that Francis Willis is 600 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: going to be the only person to have enough goal, 601 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: have enough strength to indict Donald Trump, and I believe 602 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: that we're going to have to protect her at all costs. 603 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: So doing that now. Yeah, by the way, will you 604 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: promise to have me back? Will you text me? Oh 605 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: my god, listen, send me a message any hour, any 606 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: day when the indictment comes down, because I will get 607 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: off the phone with you and shout and scream. 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