1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: And now move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody, welcome to move the sticks. DJ Bucky 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: Ratt back with you, Buck, what's going on and how 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: you doing? 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 3: I am doing well. I'm not doing as well as 6 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 3: my two partners on the podcast because both of you 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: guys have these grins like the cat that ate the canaries. 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 3: I have on my left, I have the padres man 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: who just feels like it's on and pops and you're 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: so excited. You already have the I won't say champagne 11 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 3: because knowing you, you have the sparkling apple cider Martin Ellie's. 12 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: Martin ellis good idea. 13 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 4: You got the Martin Elli's ready to just pop the top. 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 3: And then I got my unbeaten Indiana hoosier over here. 15 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,319 Speaker 2: Who's already I didn't know he owned this much Indiana gear. 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: I see all of it. 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 3: Who is already googling where should I see at possible 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: playoff destination? 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 4: So yeah, a lot right now? Yeah I am good. 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: News is guys, the first first round in Bloomington. So 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: don't worry. We're all good. First rounds in Bloomington. We're 22 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: welcoming we'll welcome the Crimson Tide to Bloomington and then 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: we'll see where we go from there. 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 2: Oh, man, don't be the first. Don't be the first 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 2: who's here to say we want Bama. Don't be that guy, right, 26 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: don't do that. We setting up, all right, all right, 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: it's time for the lead block, presented by Team Mobile 28 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: for Business, football needs and network willing to go the 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: extra yard. So do you now go further with Team 30 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: Mobile for Business and leading things off? Today? Guys, we 31 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: have breaking news just came down maybe an hour or 32 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: so ago before we started recording that as Robert Salad 33 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: has been let go as a head coach of the 34 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: New York Jets. Buck, I'll go to you. I mean 35 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: it just first immediate reaction. We can get into this. 36 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: Man, it's such a weird thing, right. I know that 37 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 3: there've been a number of coaches that have been fired 38 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: after a London trip. I don't know if this was 39 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if this was necessarily the time, right 40 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: because like the team starts off, they stumbled, then they 41 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: come back and win to then they lose to I 42 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: don't I don't know if you could say, like, hey, 43 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: Robert Salad is the problem the issue that you have though, 44 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 3: and I saw Woody's Woody Johnson's statement, you talked about 45 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 3: expectations and how they had an expectation to be an 46 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: elite team. 47 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 2: And those things. 48 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, it's too early to tell, Like 49 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: who's going to shake out? I mean we're only a 50 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 3: quarter the way through the season, and so I think 51 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: Robert solid is a victim of expectations. But I will 52 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 3: say this, whenever the team, like you have a game 53 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: against the Denver Broncos where the team didn't look like 54 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: he was prepared to deal with inclement weather, and then 55 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 3: you go on the road and you have a slow 56 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: start against the Minnesota Vikings, it just puts him under 57 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: the spotlight like, hey, did you have your team ready 58 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 3: to play? And sometimes for an owner that could be 59 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 3: a fireball offense. 60 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 4: Man. 61 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like Bucky, like, does this make them 62 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: a better football team today? 63 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 4: I don't know that it does. 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: I still feel like there was certain a lot of 65 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: things that didn't go Robert Sala's way that we're probably 66 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: a little bit out of his control, you know with 67 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: starting with the whole Aaron Rodgers, you know situation. I 68 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people that probably where where 69 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: they are right now. And look the head coach, obviously, 70 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: you know, get gets the hook on that one. 71 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: Could they have fired Nathaniel Hackett? 72 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: No, right, I mean unless you were gonna jettison Aaron 73 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: Rodgers too, right, I mean like that's a that's a 74 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: package deal. I mean, like there's that felt like if 75 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: they were going to make a move, this is the 76 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: only one that they could really make. 77 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: DJ It's unfortunate as it sounds. 78 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: This was the parallel I was looking at this morning. 79 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 2: And then why in the process of doing that, actually so, 80 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 2: I think Chris Simms had tweeted something about it, about 81 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: this parallel, because I wanted to look at this and say, 82 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: how does this compare to Tampa and Brady? Right, Obviously, 83 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 2: the forty plus quarterback long time success one place goes 84 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: to a new place, and when's the super Bowl? So 85 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: obviously the ultimate level of success there when he got 86 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: to Tampa. And I'm like, okay, there's a lot of 87 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: things that are similar here, but then there's some differences. 88 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: Let's start. First of all, they both went to talented rosters. 89 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: Tampa when Tom got there was talented. The Jets are talented. 90 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: They both brought some buddies with him. You know, you 91 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 2: think about Gronk shows up down there and Tampa to 92 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: kick the tires on Antonio Brown, you know, tried to 93 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: get him in there, who Brady had had a relationship with, 94 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: So you got kind of the buddy thing going on. 95 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, well, what's the difference. Well, you start, 96 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: first of all the coaches. I think Bruce arians on 97 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: the offensive side of the ball, and Bruce arians more 98 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 2: of a all you know, all kind of talk down 99 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: to any of you guys. I don't care if you're 100 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: the greatest of all time, whoever you are. It's a 101 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 2: I'm at top and you're beneath me. And I think 102 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: maybe from the jet side of things, I think they 103 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: might have elevated Aaron, you know, ahead to the top. 104 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: Really if you could make a case to the top 105 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: of the organization in terms of the influence and power 106 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: in direct line to the owner everything else. I mean, 107 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: that's just what it looks like from the outside. So 108 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: that's one difference. And then even that, I mean, you 109 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: remember there it was a lot of frustration with Tom 110 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: Brady early on there with the Bucks, with how they 111 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: were not it was I think they were three and two. 112 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 2: I think they were three and two after their first 113 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: five games. Not that different from the record here where 114 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: the where the Jets find themselves. The other thing that 115 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 2: and this is not this is not a it's not 116 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: a podcast fun topic. It's not a talk radio fun top. 117 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 2: But you know, one of the things I was thinking 118 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: of that that it was a little bit odd to me, 119 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: like if you're Tom Brady and you're going into the 120 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: last part of your career, You've been playing in cold 121 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: weather your whole life. You go down there and play 122 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: in Tampa. You're playing in great weather in Tampa. Look 123 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: at the look at their logs of where they played 124 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: that year. I mean they're in warm weather. They're in domes. 125 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: Like I think he had a game against Chicago. It 126 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: was the game against Chicago somewhat early in the season. 127 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: Remember when he forgot it was fourth down, Buck, We're 128 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: doing the the Mssile game that night. He didn't know 129 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: what down it was. But that was like the only 130 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: like outdoor like tough of like Aaron Rodgers, you could 131 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: have you could have gone and played in the dome somewhere. 132 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: You could have you know, as an older player gone 133 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: to warm weather like you're going and playing with the Jets, 134 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 2: and obviously we haven't even got to the you know, 135 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: the messy part of the season, but he already played 136 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 2: the monsoon against the Denver Broncos in one game. So 137 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just thought like, it's interesting to 138 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: how they both kind of picked the places that they went. 139 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: Some things they had in common, but I think just 140 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: kind of the maybe the presence of the head coach 141 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: was a little different in each place. And honestly, I'm 142 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: just going through. You tell me if I'm crazy, but 143 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, one of the major differences is actually the 144 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: environment in the weather is actually pretty significantly different from 145 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: from Tampa to the Jets. 146 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 4: Buck. 147 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's funny you brought that up because 148 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 3: I would say, you talked about two MVP quarterbacks, super 149 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: Bowl winning quarterbacks going to different destinations. I would say 150 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: it probably illuminates maybe the leadership difference between Tom Brady 151 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: and Aaron Rodgers and the connectivity that Tom Brady appeared 152 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 3: to have with his teammates in Tampa, and maybe Aaron 153 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: Rodgers has some of that. But I just think it 154 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: speaks to their different leadership styles and what they were 155 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 3: able to get. But I think it's also important that 156 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: you're right. The Ten Bay Buccaneers, I think at one 157 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 3: point during this season was set that they might have 158 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: been seven even five seven. 159 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: Before did a losing streak, Like yeah, seven five before 160 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: they got it going. 161 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: And it wasn't just that. It was the friction between 162 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: Bruce arians and Tom Brady. Tom Brady wanting maybe a 163 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 3: firmer hand when it came to the coach dealing with 164 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: other players as opposed to what it was, and it 165 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: took them a while to find that that that happy medium. 166 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 2: That's why I say, like a quarter of the season 167 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 2: is so hard. It's an early hook man. That's an 168 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: early hook And I know Roger dude, when he pushed 169 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: him away Buck though and Wrett, I mean when they 170 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: go to hug it pushed the way. I'm like, I 171 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: don't where you go from here. 172 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: It's done. 173 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: It was done, and they played it off right and 174 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: tried to like it was just you know, it was 175 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: a back and forth thing, kind of an inside thing 176 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: about something that's you know. 177 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: It felt weird right the side eye, the whole thing 178 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 4: it felt weird. I'll say this that. 179 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you were you were playing on Monday night 180 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: in week six for first place in the AC East. 181 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: So you could make the argument that the raised It's true, 182 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: you could play that from two separate sides of it. Right, 183 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: You're like, all right, Woody Johnson's looking at this and 184 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: he's like, it's now like this is our this is 185 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: an opportunity for us to turn this thing in a 186 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: different direction. You're like, all right, Like he's got this 187 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: team able to play for first place in the division 188 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: of week six and despite the fact that the offense 189 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: has been terrible, right since twenty twenty one, the Jets 190 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: offense has averaged seventeen points a game, you know, And 191 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: then you look at the defense, solid specialty over the 192 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: course of his career there and they're number one and 193 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: a majority of important categories. So like, you know, that 194 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: side of it is working, but like the collective part 195 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: of it, there has been a disconnect. 196 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: The complimentary part of it has been disconnected. 197 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: And you can say there's a lot of different circumstances 198 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: for that quarterback missing on, Zach Wilson, Rogers getting hurt. 199 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: All that plays apart, but here they are in week 200 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: six with an opportunity to take control of the division. 201 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: So let's see if jeff Olbrick can get it done. 202 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: I guess is where we're at on this thing. But 203 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: does it change the offense? Does it change the way 204 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: that the offense is planned? No? 205 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 2: I mean they have no timing, no rhythm whatsoever. Yeah, 206 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 2: and that's not going to be impacted by this decision 207 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 2: right now. 208 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: Look, I think it also from an ownership standpoint, everyone 209 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 3: has heard great things about jeff Aulbrick, right, and so 210 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: if you remove solid, you really haven't changed any of 211 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: the structural stuff that you do. Like they may change 212 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 3: the practice schedule a little bit or whatever, but you're 213 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: still getting the same defense to go with the offense 214 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 3: to Aaron Rodgers prefers. And if you believe that Ober 215 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: can be a valuable head coaching candidate, you're giving him 216 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 3: a long run to get the job. And so I 217 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 3: think it has to be an internal thing where people 218 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 3: in the building feel like jeff Oulbrick has potential as 219 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: a head coach, and so you want to give him 220 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: an opportunity to fully take over and take command. Because 221 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: even talked about we believe we have a staff and 222 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 3: a team that can win and we believe it Olbrick 223 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 3: could be the guy to get the best out of them. 224 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: And we we're on that topic. 225 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: I know you guys are going to talk to Jim 226 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: Maggie coming up this week here, but Jeff Olbrick was 227 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: elevated to the head coaching role, you know, in the 228 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, and so you know, be curious to see what, 229 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, how that kind of resonated with players and 230 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: with other you know. 231 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 4: Coaches there. 232 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: Schrager also mentioned that that, you know, he was told 233 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: that Rogers did not have a significant role in the 234 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: firing run. 235 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 4: It's alid maybe not directly, but indirectly. 236 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: The issues with the offense are a big reason why, 237 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: because you can't you can't just sit here and pinant. 238 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 4: You know, they can't stop anybody. 239 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's interesting, I would say, if 240 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: I'm remembering correctly in the office, you know, as last 241 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: year was not going well, right, Rogers gets hurt, Zach 242 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: Wilson is not. It's not panning out. They're losing a 243 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 2: bunch of games. I'm almost positive I have to go back 244 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 2: and look it up that Aaron Rodgers at one point 245 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: time late in the season or maybe even at the 246 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: end of the season, had said I give full support 247 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: to Joe Douglas and Robert Slid Like he came out 248 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: and staunchly defended them, and they ended up, you know, 249 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: running it back. So I don't know, maybe maybe that 250 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: didn't have any impact on them surviving last year. But 251 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: I've got to believe that when you go out and 252 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: hire his hand picked offensive coordinator before you trade for 253 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: him in order to lure him there, it's hard for 254 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: me to believe that he just has He's just an 255 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: innocent bystander and has no sense and everything that goes on, 256 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: what does. 257 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 4: It tell you? And look at DJ. 258 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: I know you're you're close with Joe d but like, 259 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: what does it tell you when an owner makes the move? 260 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, first of all, like everything gets busy in 261 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: the football world. And I known Joe for twenty years, 262 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: but I haven't talked to Joe since before the draft. 263 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 2: So I know, I always am always leary because I 264 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: think anytime I say stuff, people like you. Right every week, 265 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 2: I'm like full transparency. We have not spoken since the draft. 266 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: He's got a job to do, so yeah, he's a 267 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: little busy, but so uh no, I you know, I 268 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: think it came. I believe that that it came straight 269 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: from the owner, and that's that's his prerogative when he 270 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: owns the team. And look, you this could end up 271 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: working out great. They win this week, like you said, 272 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 2: right there in first place, and whatdy, Johnson will get 273 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 2: applause for doing what you know you felt like needed 274 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: to be done. You own the team, you get to 275 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: make those decisions. But yeah, I wasn't surprised that it came, 276 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: you know, from the ownership level this early in the season. 277 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: That usually is something from the very tip top. 278 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just I don't know, Like I can't say, look, 279 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 3: you had three plus years. I just think when your 280 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: team is close and the defense is playing well, we 281 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 3: can't minimize solid contributions to the defense playing well. You 282 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: remove him from the situation. And even though Ubrick is 283 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator, when you're the defensive head coach and 284 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 3: they're running your system, you have some of the answers 285 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: to the tests when problems arise in those things, and 286 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 3: so do you weaken the strength of your team. We're 287 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: moving to hate coach and the defense was his baby, 288 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 3: So we're just going to see how that plays out. 289 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's uh, it's fascinating when you look at 290 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: at this decision coming at this moment in time. We'll 291 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 2: see how the Jets react and respond with a big 292 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: game coming up on Monday night against the Buffalo Bills. 293 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 2: That's a wrap for the lead block presented by T 294 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: Mobile for Business. Football needs a network willing to go 295 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 2: the extra yards. So do you go further with T 296 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: Mobile for Business. Let's say quick break, we come back. 297 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: We'll get into the rookie draft right after this. All right, 298 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: we got a it's time for a little rookie draft. 299 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: We can look back. We don't need to be much time. 300 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 2: Four four four, uh, Moses Malone right there with time. 301 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: I mean technically I win though, right because I was 302 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: only playing with two players. 303 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 2: Well, I mean maybe maybe read the injury report and. 304 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: On your own. 305 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 4: There's no injury reports. 306 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 2: Boys, Well you know maybe later in the week when 307 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: you see an injury report, you try and get yourself 308 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: a new guy in the lineup. You know, it's fair, 309 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: all right, all right, fine, we're going on this thing. 310 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: Let's where we're going. Let's find solutions. Let's not let's 311 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 2: not identify the problems. Let's find solutions. Here. Congratulations RTT, 312 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: you got the first pick. 313 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 4: I do. 314 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: And this is an interesting one because you know, now 315 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: we have two quarterbacks that you know, you can kind 316 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: of fight over, because I won the quarterback battle last 317 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: week with Caleb Williams and not as the number one pick. 318 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: And Caleb's been playing some good ball and he's got 319 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: the Jaguars Bucky coming coming into Soldier Field, whereas the 320 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: commanders and Jayden Daniels are going into Baltimore right and 321 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: taking on a defense that just gave up what thirty 322 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: eight points did Joe Burrow, although I can't imagine that happening. 323 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: Really, you're really waffling here on this decision. 324 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, give me, give me Caleb. Let's go Kleb. Let's 325 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 4: go Kayleb at number one. 326 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: Come on, all right, I'm not going to spend much 327 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: time going say I'll take Jaden Daniels with the second one. 328 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: It's a short trip, short trip over there at Baltimore. 329 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Buck, you got back to backers, Okay, back 330 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: to back. 331 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, since the quarterback thing has been decided 332 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: for me, I'm gonna go and take two weapons. And 333 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: so let's take Brian Thomas Junior. Just because he's a giant. 334 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: I want to make sure I give him his proper respect. 335 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 3: But then let's go with Marvin Harrison. At some point, 336 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 3: at some point, we got to get we got to 337 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: feed him, so we gotta we got to find a 338 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: way to get him involved. So let's go with him. 339 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: So back to back, too big White House. 340 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go, Malik Neighbors, and I 341 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: will be texting you in the bill if I get 342 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: word later on in the week. But I'm gonna go. 343 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: What does that mean? Does it mean if you're text 344 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: if he's out, then I get to add. I get 345 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: to add some c oh. 346 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: Domino laide is a domino play? 347 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: No, that is not that is not the rules. That's 348 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: not the rules. 349 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 3: The inactive list and all this other stuff like we 350 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: gotta lock this thing at some point, like fantasy football, 351 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 3: we lock it. We gotta lock it. 352 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: I feel confident I'll when this week even if he 353 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: doesn't play. Go ahead, I feel great. You just gave 354 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 2: me Jayden Daniels with the second pick. Go ahead. 355 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: I feel good about it. 356 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: You're doubling up here, Yeah, I know this. You want 357 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: to take Tyrone Tracy so bad I can just see it. 358 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's Indiana produced thing that you're you're fighting at, and. 359 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: It's like his singletary coming back this week that we 360 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: don't know. Boy, I already got burned once by trying 361 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: to take brayln Allen. All right, one thing I know 362 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do is take Brock Vowers. 363 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: So it was my pick. 364 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: Go ahead and lock that up. Give me Brock at six. 365 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: And then, man, that Bronco's defense been good. I was thinking, 366 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: Lad McConkie, let's buddy, let's do Let's go back to 367 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: the well here. Let's go Bucky Irving for the Bucks. 368 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: Give me Bucky Irving coming after the Saints down in 369 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: New Orleans. 370 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: All right, Just this is what I'm gonna love. I'm 371 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 2: gonna love that Red's gonna be sitting there on Game 372 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 2: Day Live. He's gonna be watching Caleb Williams just chuck it. Buck. 373 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 2: It's gonna be like a sixty maybe sixty two yard touchdown. 374 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: He's gonna come out of his seat and then he's 375 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: gonna realize he just threw it to Roma Dunes here, 376 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: and it's just gonna just bring the whole vibe. 377 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 3: All right. 378 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: Rome has not been picked a lot lately. I'm going 379 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 2: rome a little roam action here. Well, you got your 380 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: last up Bonicks blocking up. 381 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 3: I mean that's easy. I'm just gonna I'm going to 382 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 3: guy who has. 383 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: Uhtunately, you don't get points for the wind, dude, I appreciate. 384 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but this is the week. Maybe we can get 385 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: a couple of quarterback sneaks. Maybe we can get a 386 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 3: little play action pass inside to five something kind of 387 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 3: get us going. 388 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: What is the season totals? Here? Is Buck is still 389 00:17:55,480 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 2: in first place? Yeah, Bucky has got twenty four, I've 390 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 2: got twenty one, Reds got fifteen, So Bucks just trying 391 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 2: to go wire to wire. It feels like this year 392 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: he's been a stranglehold on the top spot. 393 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: Hey ds, who are the Broncos gonna put Pat Sortan on? 394 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: They're gonna put him on lad They're gonna move him 395 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: out on Palmer. 396 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 4: What are they gonna do? They're putting him on the 397 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 4: top receiver everywhere he goes. 398 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 2: Put him in the box, that's right, put him on JK. 399 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: Dobbins coming downhill about fifty times. 400 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 4: You're ready for it. 401 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 2: Admission to see how they are health wise, charger wise, Yeah, 402 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 2: I got off the by see who they can get back. 403 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: Joe Alt hurt, Slater's hurt. Everyone was suspended, so you 404 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 2: get him back. Had a couple other injuries too. They've 405 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 2: been they've been hit pretty hard. 406 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: It's an interesting matchup in the late window. I mean, 407 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: truly with. 408 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: The real quick I've never asked Buck this bye weeks? Buck, 409 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: as a player, what was your perfect time for that? 410 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 3: Uh, was right in the middle of the season, and 411 00:18:58,119 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 3: this was before the new rules, but it had to 412 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 3: give him mandatory days. But I just remember it was 413 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: controversial when it happened, but playing in Green Bay, Mike 414 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 3: Homan gave everybody the entire week off, and so I 415 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: just remember eving like, hey, get out the building, see 416 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: you on Sunday. And so to leave from a Monday 417 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: to Sunday. Look, that's that's a great bye week. 418 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: Like and where'd you go? 419 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 2: Where'd you go? Where'd you go? 420 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,160 Speaker 3: I just went to jointown. It wasn't a big deal, 421 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: but it's a pretty cool thing to think, Hey, my 422 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: coach gave me the week off. We're out of the building. 423 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 3: We just go hang out and come back and recharge. 424 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know, maybe just something to be 425 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 3: said for getting away from the game and then just 426 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 3: kind of coming back and get back right the next week. 427 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, I do want to remind everybody 428 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: we will have Jim Naggy coming up. As Rhett teased, 429 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: he'll be on tomorrow's episode from the recent Senior Bowl. 430 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 2: Yeah professional, how many years in the business. 431 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: I think we're I lock count now, So Jim. 432 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: Is going to be coming up. Also have a chance 433 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: a little bit later on the week, we'll jump into 434 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 2: some college stuff because talk some of these topics, not 435 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: only with Jim. Huge, This is a huge weekend of 436 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: college football. What game you have, by the way, right 437 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 2: where you ahead of this week? 438 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 4: We are a home game this week. 439 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: So I was at USC Minnesota right in the upset 440 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: last week and then we get Minnesota again this week. 441 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: Trying to ride that emotional high into the Rose Bowl 442 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: to take on u c l A tough one. 443 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 444 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 4: UCLA offensive line is tough to watch right now. 445 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: USC's offensive line is not much better. Yeah, Yeah, that's 446 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 2: the issues as they going. 447 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: To get that going. 448 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna cut cut loose here. I appreciate 449 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: you guys hanging with us. We will see you next time. 450 00:20:39,840 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: Right here on move the stacks