WEBVTT - James Scully’s Salvation Mountain Misadventure 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:12.319 What's that at the bed? It's spooky and jukie. I'm 0:00:12.320 --> 0:00:16.360 pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait a minute, 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:18.680 I ghosted. 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:33.360 Nandas Pllease hey boo, it's me Ros and welcome to Ghosted. 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.360 By Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk to people 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:44.239 that I like about the para normal You guys, So, 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:50.680 I saw Oh Mary on Broadway, the hit play, which 0:00:50.720 --> 0:00:55.840 is so funny. Cola Scola is a genius. I mean, 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:58.040 I just had the time of my life watching this 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:04.280 play and there was one of the stars, James Scully 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:10.440 on stage, just just brilliant, and we got to talking 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.840 and I invited him on the pod and we had 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:19.840 a great time. Okay, I think you're gonna like this one. 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:22.880 You know, I'm on tour right now, so make sure 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:25.840 you go see me all over America doing stand up 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:31.680 comedy and gay bars. Ros Hernandez tour dot com is 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.920 where you can find those tickets. I think we'll just 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:38.000 skip a story for this intro because we got this 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:42.199 is a beefy one we get into it. So here 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:50.000 is my conversation with actor Broadway star James Scully on 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:59.480 with the show. Oh my god, I don't believe it. 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:07.760 I feel as if I have manifested the Cutie Convention 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.880 is in town, and I had no clue because I 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:16.480 am joined today via Skype by James Scully. 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:21.800 Hello. Hello. I didn't know where that was going. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:23.080 I didn't either, clearly. 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.280 I just and then I realized, like, wait, am I 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:27.440 the Cutie Convention? 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:29.360 You are the Cuty Convention? But I guess you're not 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.600 technically in town. You're in Are you in New York 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:33.400 City right now? 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:38.160 Yeah? I'm in I'm in Romantic Bushwick. Ever heard of this? 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:45.480 Yeah? I stay there sometimes. I saw you in Oh Mary, 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:49.760 and I was like, this is incredible. I mean I 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:54.120 already knew that, like the reviews. The reviews had been 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.359 in by the time I saw it. But then I 0:02:56.400 --> 0:03:01.400 was like, who is this? You were so fantastic, Thank 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:04.520 you Zarl. Now I'm fully obsessed with you. 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:06.200 Oh same. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.200 Is that place haunted? That theater has to be haunted. 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:19.240 The Lyceum. I have personally never had any experiences there, 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:22.880 as much as I like walk around in that building alone, 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:27.840 sort of like making space for a cold gust or 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:33.000 a chill down my spine. There is a staircase that 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.040 sort of goes up the tower where the dressing rooms are, 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:40.440 and at the top of the building there's like an 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:44.320 apartment up there that the Schubert's own that's an archive 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:48.200 of like artifacts of all of their many contributions to 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.600 the art form. And because we're not allowed up there, 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.440 there's like a gate over the stairwell and then it 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:58.040 just sort of ascends up into darkness. And while it 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:01.480 has not happened yet, I am waiting for the day 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.400 that as I walk past to go down to the stage, 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.240 I look up and there on the shadowy landing there's 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:14.480 just you know, like a pioneer woman, a flapper, a child. Yeah, 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.000 just translucent sort of staring at me. The stage is 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.520 set for that, but you know, I'm sure theater goes. 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:24.520 They're not just going to show off to anyone. 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:30.360 Oh, they're safe. I guarantee A chorus member fell down 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.360 that staircase at some point to there. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.640 I mean, I've fallen down that staircase. 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:39.159 I didn't die, but I'm sure you know that one 0:04:39.160 --> 0:04:42.279 of these it's always a lady in white at every theater, 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:45.440 and I'm sure she had her long ass white down 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.520 on and she tripped over it and fell down the stairs. 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:54.440 Yeah, it's Bianca Lee bless her heart, knocking on Wood's pounds. Hoopskirt, 0:04:54.560 --> 0:05:00.279 isn't she just? Yeah? There is like a legend that 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.599 I forget what the name of the actress is, but 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:10.240 that her husband, who was a director, there's like a 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:14.039 like in the in the ceiling of the actual theater space, 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.520 there's like a trap door that opens up to the 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:21.320 apartment above the theater, and when she would perform, he 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.240 would open the trap door and lean down so he 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.320 could like see down to the stage, and he thought 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.839 she was overacting. He would wave a white handkerchief to 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:37.440 basically be like, do less. Yeah, film we're going filmic 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.560 with this one. Yeah. And they say that if you 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.360 look up during a performance, then you're not, you know, 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:44.960 giving what needs to be given. You might see a 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:48.280 white handkerchief in the dark. 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.760 Yeah, shade from the other side. 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.040 I could not have put it better myself. 0:05:54.839 --> 0:06:01.159 I'm googling Lyceum Theater haunted. This is from playbill dot 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:06.720 Com during the twenty ten run of The Scottsborough Boys. 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:11.760 Coleman Domingo, Gee, im right down, Coleman Domingo. We got 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.520 we gotta know someone that can get Coleman Domingo in here. 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:17.799 I'm a protest with him. Do you know his story 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.840 of how he met his partner? No, I forgot, I'll 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:24.440 google it. But it's also kind of paranormal. Okay, So 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:29.680 Coleman Domingo said, quote the Friday of our last weekend, 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.680 things were happening backstage and on stage with the lights 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.640 and the computer equipment. We definitely felt we were in 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:38.679 the presence of ghosts. All right. 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.400 I love though that he It's like, no, there was 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:45.640 probably just a power surge. But you can always rely 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:49.120 on the fun the homosexual to be like, no, it's ghosts. 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.039 Yeah, it's more fun that way, for sure. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:56.159 It's absolutely more fun that way. Who cares about bad wiring. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.479 Let's make a ghost. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.520 Wait a second, where's where I have another one? I 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.640 just found another one that said something about Bob Fosse. 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.039 I've already made this joke, but I would love Bob 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.200 Fosse to be in here, and all I'm saying. 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.760 Oh my god, zoh. 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.320 Have you seen him? He's really and it's funny because 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.320 his whole approach to art was informed by the fact 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:22.240 that he was like bald and had weird joints. But 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.040 then you like look at photos of him and you're like, 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:27.320 that's a fine creative gentleman. 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:34.120 I mean, I can only imagine the moves he'd be doing. Okay, wait, 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.720 so it says while every theater may claim to have 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:41.280 a ghost, tales of choreographer Bob Fossey smoking on the 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:45.360 mezzanine might be a stretch for even the most fervent believer. 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.040 We do believe we have a ghost, says Emily Petrain, 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:53.440 house manager of the Lyceum Theater. We are just not 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.200 certain that it's mister Fossey. 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.040 Okay, Oh no, I was getting so excited. 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:03.400 This is from NYC Tourism. It says the Fosse rumors 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:07.800 began after the premiere of the Visit in twenty fifteen, 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:13.600 which are Cheeta, rivera kandorinab There was one siding of 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:18.640 him where Richard Reese looked up and saw him smoking 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.720 in the balcony. But it's the only time we have 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:25.360 ever seen him. They think the amount of people connected 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.880 to him and that building at the time was enough 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:28.480 to do it. 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.320 That's kind of beautiful. 0:08:31.720 --> 0:08:32.800 The conjured him. 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.960 I was gonna say he was conjured. He was like 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:38.360 I got to make sure this show's good. What's going on? 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:39.319 One of my. 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.120 Girls up to this is what the next conjuring movie 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:48.160 should be. It's like Cheeta Rivera conjuring up the Ghost 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.679 of Bob Fosse and they share cigarettes. 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:55.800 And Patrick Wilson and Vera Formiga show up and they're like, actually, 0:08:55.840 --> 0:08:58.360 this is fine. We don't need to do anything about this. 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:00.160 He can just be here. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:04.480 I just do an article that very for Mega is 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:06.360 releasing a heavy. 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:11.160 Metal album, Like I'm delighted by that, but I'm not surprised. 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:15.880 Like to that, I say, your move, Annabelle, what are 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.040 you going to do? I need Annabelle to give us 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:23.040 like a doge. I don't know. She needs to. She 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:24.520 needs to get in there and do something. 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:28.480 Annabelle and Meghan the Robot and one more haunted doll 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:31.600 need to like do like a like a black pink 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:34.320 like girl group situation. 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.760 That is not a bad idea, or maybe like a 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:43.480 Lady marmalade. Uh yeah, so I do feel bad. Two 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.760 future guests Coleman Domingo that I just like glossed over 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:49.800 his story. So let's let's do that real quick, and 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.200 then let's get back to you, and I want to 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.280 hear your stories because I apologize I'm really hijacking this. 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:59.120 No, I've met Coleman Domingo and his partner many times 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.880 and they're both loved, but they've never given up the 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.080 paranormal nature. I mean it's not. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.040 It's my opinion it's sort of paranormal because it's like 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.040 one of these like meant to be. 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:15.040 Right, sarendipity is I would say, like, yeah, it's paranormal. 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.640 Are you someone that's into that kind of a thing, serendipity? 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:22.280 If you were a drag queen, would your drag name 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:23.320 be Sarah Dipity. 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.000 I am into serendipity. I don't know that I would 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:30.960 choose that as my drag name. But like, watch two 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:33.960 years from now, you're in a club in LA. You 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:38.200 look up and there's Sarah Dippity. Actually, Sarah Dippity is funny, 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:40.640 like misstippity. If you're nasty, that's. 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:43.280 Cute Dipity dipity. 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.160 I love it, Ladies and Gentlemen's welcome to the stage. 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:51.800 Okay. So I found this article from Them Them dot 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.760 Us and it says okay. According to Domingo, he was 0:10:55.800 --> 0:11:00.000 at a Walgreens in Berkeley, California, Okay, in the year 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:04.120 two thousand and five, great year. Getting a face mask, 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.200 not like a COVID mask, like a you. 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.719 Know, like the sheets, like sheet masks that they saw. 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:12.280 The people weren't doing those in two thousand and five. 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:16.400 I guess maybe he's after so he was like ahead 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:16.959 of the curve. 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:18.240 I bet he gets it. 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:19.040 He gets it. 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.720 He spotted a beautiful man with shoulder length hair and 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:29.760 a lip piercing I love that, and the two locked eyes, 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:33.400 but the man was absorbed into conversation with someone. As 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:37.320 they both left the walgreens, the two continued to look 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:41.880 at each other, with the future mister Domingo turning back 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:47.560 several times to catch a second and third glimpse of Coleman. Later, 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:52.400 while trying to purchase a used computer, Coleman was scanning 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:57.560 misconnections ads on Craigslist, thinking that he might post one 0:11:57.600 --> 0:12:00.400 looking for the mysterious man with the shoulder length hair. 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:04.280 He says, I go to page two of them, and 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:08.480 I'm reading and I see quote saw you outside the 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:13.280 Walgreens Berkeley. He placed an ad for me two hours 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:17.640 before he described me with my faux haawk. It was 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.000 two thousand and five, and I was like, get out 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:23.120 of here. So we met up three days later and 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.280 had our first date. I was trying to be a 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:28.080 good boy and go home. He said, can you stay over? 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.760 I said, sure, let's just cuddle. We cuddled. I thought 0:12:31.760 --> 0:12:35.000 he was asleep. Four o'clock in the morning. I couldn't sleep, 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.600 and I said, I think I love you and you're 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.440 about to change my life. And we've been together for 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:41.960 nineteen years. 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:46.000 Yeah, I mean I wouldn't call it like paranormal feels 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.400 like too spooky a word to describe it. 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.560 So but it's like men's like bee. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:56.600 Yeah, it's magical. It is its genre. To be sure, 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:58.720 it's it's okay. 0:12:58.840 --> 0:12:59.960 Maybe it's not paranorma. 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.960 That's well, I don't know. Maybe we can also like 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:06.880 I don't don't let me put a negative connotation on paranormal. 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:13.480 Paranormal can definitely be romantic. Why not. Yeah, either way, 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:18.600 that's statistically anomalous. And I mean imagine being Coleman. You 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:22.080 go to look and then it's it's actually there. You're 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.559 like reading about yourself from that perspective. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.679 I mean, that's like something that a psychic would do 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:33.720 or something like, Yeah, yeah, and you try saying that 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:38.840 psychics aren't paranormal. Good luck with that. Oh no, you 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.160 don't want to get on the bad side of psychics. 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.199 Been there, done. 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:47.720 That, No, what happened just like bad dreams for a 0:13:47.720 --> 0:13:48.280 long time. 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:52.520 Oh, I've got every crystal in the book. They try, 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:57.800 they try, they can into me. Do you believe in psychics? 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:01.880 I guess yes, ultimately, would be my answer to that, 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:08.160 because I definitely believed in sort of like intuition, especially 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:12.200 between two people who are very close that goes beyond 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:17.560 verbal communication or even like physical cues, like I do 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:20.600 feel like me and my roommate, especially, there are moments 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.400 where it's like, I think you just read my mind. 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.240 I think you actually knew the thought I was having 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:30.000 before I even knew what I was about to say. 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:33.560 I also really believe in kindred spirits, that you can 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.520 meet a person and it's like, Okay, we are like 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.920 made of the same we originated from the same atoms 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:43.440 like out in wherever, and we are like bonded in 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:48.520 a way beyond just like you know, mutual interests and taste. 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.760 And so I think if you meet someone like that 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.040 out in the world and they happen to be working 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:57.800 as a psychic. I think they definitely could tell you 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:59.680 something about yourself you didn't already know. 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.800 Oh so people that are how did you wear that? 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.640 Like made from the same Would you say star stuff? 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:09.880 I didn't want to be tweet. I think I said atoms, 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:11.760 But what I wanted to say was star stuff. 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:15.000 Star stuff. Now this is the place to talk about it. 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:15.840 Okay, good. 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.120 That sounds way cuter than what I always think because 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.080 I'm always like, like if I meet a bitch with 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:24.480 bangs and like I could tell she likes the same 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.920 kind of music as me and like the same movies, 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.280 or I'm always like, we're like the same subspecies of human. 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.640 We're like the same, right, But I think it's like 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.880 the exact same thing. It just when I don't I 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:39.360 need a new thing to say instead of subspecies because 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:40.480 that just sounds stupid. 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:42.360 I think subspecies is great. 0:15:42.880 --> 0:15:44.720 What about a dom species? 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:47.680 But let's talk about that. 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:52.880 Oh, tell me a ghost story now. 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:57.240 I was on a road trip with my friends and 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.640 we were sort of going down across the country from 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:03.920 where we were at school together from Ohio, and we 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:07.480 went sort of to like the bottom left hand corner 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:12.360 of California, stopping along the way and then went up the. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.680 Ones that's a long way, and then went a bunch. 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:18.320 Of other places. But the story I'm telling today concerns 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:24.320 a little known monument in I think the Californian desert 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:29.840 called a Salvation Mountain. Ah, this do you know about 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:30.760 Salvation Mountain? 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:35.360 I've never been there. I feel like, was it Kesha 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.320 or somebody like ten years ago or something. I feel 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:43.760 like she did something there and it had its moment 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:44.560 for sure. 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.560 Yeah. Well, because the man who made it has been 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:50.560 and by the time we went there, and this was 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:55.680 in two thoy thirteen, I believe, and back then he 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:59.000 had already been passed for a while. Also, something to 0:16:59.160 --> 0:17:02.000 know about Salve Mountain is a it's very near a 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:05.240 brimstone lake. Like I remember waking up in the car 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:08.800 and being like it reeks of sulfur and brimstone in 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.160 the car, Like what is going on? And it's because 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.320 there's this huge to the point where in prepping for this, 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:16.880 I went back and I was like, was I high? 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.400 Did I hallucinate that? What was going on? And there 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:24.280 is a sulfric lake very near Salvation Mountain that like 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.879 everything in it is dead because the pH of the 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.480 water is just crazy. So just setting the scene that 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.240 it's like we're in the middle of the desert. We're 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.480 driving along the edge of this brimstone lake. It's already 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:37.960 getting spooky. We're not even at Salvation Mountain yet. 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:40.720 And Salvation Mountain, I don't know, y'all have to tell 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.320 us more. All I know is that it's like everything's 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:45.920 painted all colorful in Jesus. Ye right. 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:49.879 Well, and that's the thing, is our friend, because we 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:51.879 all sort of got to pick, like, hey, this is 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:53.920 something I want to do, this is something I want 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.359 to do. Along the course of the road trip, she 0:17:57.440 --> 0:17:59.480 really wanted to go to Salvation Mountain and when she 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.520 pitched it, she was like, it's like a religious unity 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:06.640 monument and we were like, great, But I love that 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.480 you have to drive through a little town to get 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:14.040 out there. The town. I'm sure that people do live there. 0:18:14.320 --> 0:18:17.560 I heard dogs, there was an elementary school. I saw 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.400 toys in the yards. I did not see a single 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:23.639 human person. It was giving that. It was giving, like 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:25.560 we're in the middle of the middle of the middle 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.199 of nowhere. There's a brimstone lake, I see houses, I 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:37.000 see no people, I feel eerie. We get to Salvation Mountain. 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:43.160 It is not a religious unity monument. It is about Jesus, okay, 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.680 and it is this man in a moment of revelation 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.760 in his life sort of abandoned everything he knew and 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:55.399 had and moved out into the desert because this one scripture, 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.359 one piece of scripture which I should have looked it 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.920 up and I didn't. But listeners, you can google it 0:19:01.960 --> 0:19:04.679 your own discretion and learn the lore of Salvation Mountain 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:09.680 came into his brain and he just really latched onto it. 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:14.400 And so the whole sort of installation, which is mostly 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:18.120 like hay bales and tires that he stacked and then 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:24.199 coated and paint to create this like mountain, has that 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:28.040 piece of scripture like over and over and over again 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:32.679 all over the place. Yeah, if you google it, if 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:36.199 you google like Salvation Mountain scripture, it'll be you'll know 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.320 right away. And it's also it's not just the mountain. 0:19:39.600 --> 0:19:42.399 There's then sort of this like side piece that's like 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:46.600 a little labyrinthian that goes off around the edge that's 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:51.280 very sort of like the Beatles Yellow Submarine animated film. 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:55.399 Coded there's like car doors embedded in the walls, and 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.399 like there's a lot of like bottle top art, you 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.680 know what I'm saying. It gives kind of like burning 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:06.719 man art installation in the middle of the California desert. 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.760 Yes, that's sort of funky. 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:14.280 Yeah yeah, very technic color. But while there was a 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.760 gentleman staying in a trailer on the property who sort 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:19.880 of just like waved at us as we pulled up. 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:22.760 I don't know if he's like the official grounds keeper. 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:27.560 He is not the man who built the installation. The 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:29.800 car that the man lived in, which is just like 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.560 kind of an old beat down truck with a little 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.560 tiny house on the back. And by a little tiny house, 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:38.600 I mean like that's troof over the bed of the truck. Yeah, 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.080 you see it, tiny place to live. That's where he 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.960 lived until he passed, and that's where he stayed when 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:48.040 he was out there by himself building this monument, which 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:51.679 is like the religious conviction of that, the spiritual conviction 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:55.200 of that is beautiful, but it's also like what had 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:58.080 gripped this man that he was like I must go 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:00.439 into the middle of the desert and live as a 0:21:00.440 --> 0:21:02.760 hermit and build this thing. 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:04.040 Jesus. 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.320 Yeah, Jesus was like, hey, I haven't done a miracle. 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:09.119 How's that Peyton doing? 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:13.760 Yeah, I have all those fumes treating yet I'm just. 0:21:13.160 --> 0:21:17.520 Picturing Jesus up looking down being like, so you've been 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:19.760 out there for a couple of weeks. You haven't gotten 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:21.520 that far. Just a couple of hay bows and so 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:24.159 paint what's going on here? You love me or what? 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:29.359 Yeah, I'm not feeling I'm not feeling the commitment. So 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:33.080 we get there and he again the man who made it, 0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:35.720 Like we're like googling it as we're pulling up. It's like, oh, 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:37.760 he's been dead at this point for like five or 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:42.200 eight years, so no shade to what he has accomplished. 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:46.040 But it's gotten a little dusty. There is an air 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:50.240 of I would say, neglect, and you know the vibe 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:53.399 when you like look at pictures of like like churches 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:55.840 that have like collapsed and or rotting in the middle 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:59.119 of the woods somewhere, and it's like this used to 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:05.159 be a place for like spiritual reflection and gathering. NOI 0:22:05.600 --> 0:22:08.359 you know that's a little creepy deep Dutch. 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:11.600 It's sort of like on the dating apps, what you 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:14.960 see the person in person you go, oh, I can 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:18.240 tell you that you you were in the picture. 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.919 Where was that picture from? Yeah? When was that that 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:24.440 was from? That was also from twenty thirteen, and it's 0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:28.199 twenty twenty five. So like, for example, just off the 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:32.120 main mountain, there were three rooms, one of them full 0:22:32.160 --> 0:22:35.240 of Bibles, all open to the same page on which 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:40.400 the piece of scripture he used was. But these bibles 0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:43.080 have been sitting in the California desert, so they're not 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:48.600 doing great. So you're like, okay, it's a little carry 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:52.320 a la Stephen King energy in here. The next room 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:57.280 was a shrine where people had brought IDs. It was 0:22:57.320 --> 0:22:59.840 a lot of IDs. It was a lot of like drivers, 0:22:59.880 --> 0:23:04.760 like licenses and passports and like little notes and like 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:08.239 just like lining the walls of this room. We were 0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:11.920 the only people there by the way, just for clarity, 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:14.520 it was just like me and my two friends. She 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:18.159 was having a gay old time. My other friend was like, 0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:21.520 you know, walking around looking at things. So we're having 0:23:21.560 --> 0:23:24.159 a solo experience basically. So I'm looking at all of 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.560 these IDs and I don't have the context. It's like 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:31.920 are these people dead? Are they missing? Were they left 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:37.640 here as a curse? Like what inspire somebody to bring 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:41.399 a piece of identification, because it's like, presumably if the 0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:45.040 person's driver's license was available to be left in the 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:48.439 middle of the desert, I feel like that's that doesn't 0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:52.280 bode well for whoever is on that ID, you know 0:23:52.320 --> 0:23:54.919 what I mean. It's like if they don't need their 0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:58.360 driver's license anymore, what happened to them is what I 0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:02.680 had to ask. Yeah, and then the final little room 0:24:03.080 --> 0:24:05.919 is like a winged angel statue, but the head has 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:08.240 been knocked off and one of the wings is missing. 0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:09.320