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Speaker 1: let's get this podcast started. My guest is an international speaker,

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Speaker 1: award winning author, and the founder and CEO of Jackets

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Speaker 1: for Jobs, a Detroit based nonprofit that has empowered over

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Speaker 1: forty thousand job seekers with professional attire and career training.

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Speaker 1: She's widely recognized for a leadership in workforce development, women's empowerment,

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Speaker 1: and entrepreneurship. Please welcome the Money Making Conversations Masterclass from Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Alison Vond. How you doing, Allison?

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Speaker 2: I am wonderful. How are you. I've been looking forward

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Speaker 2: to this conversation always.

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Speaker 1: Well for thank you. You know, I'm a big fan

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Speaker 1: of the of the Detroit community of a good friend

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Speaker 1: up there, Terrence Wheeler. He does an annual turkey giveaway

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Speaker 1: every year. I've been telling them he always invited me.

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Speaker 1: But that's that cold part of Detroit Thanksgiving week. Woo,

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Speaker 1: am trouble.

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Speaker 3: Super cold here? Yes, I know, Terrence, he's a friend

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Speaker 3: of mine. And it's very cold here. I mean when

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Speaker 3: the school's closed here, that means it's super cold and the.

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Speaker 1: Schools have been closed absolutely. Well, let's talk about what

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Speaker 1: you've been doing for the last twenty six years. An

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Speaker 1: idea that a lot of people have ideas, but you

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Speaker 1: followed up on your idea. Tell us about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, I stepped out on faith with

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Speaker 3: my idea. I started Jackets for Jobs twenty six years ago,

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Speaker 3: and with the thought of helping job seekers. I realized

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Speaker 3: kind of a catch twenty two and so for twenty

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Speaker 2: I'm an image consultant.

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Speaker 3: I dress people so they can look professional when they

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Speaker 3: go for a job interview, not just to get the job,

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Speaker 3: but to keep the job. So I'm trying to get

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Speaker 1: And the confidence is very important. You know, growing up

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Speaker 1: best self. Now, this whole idea when you said faith,

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Speaker 1: you know an idea when you start sharing your ideas,

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Speaker 1: what were people thinking and how did people assist you? Not?

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Speaker 1: So it's lasted twenty six years in Detroit, I know well.

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Speaker 3: First to be able to say twenty six years, I

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: If you google the average lifespan of a business, it'll

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Speaker 3: Say that I have lasted twenty six years in the

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Speaker 3: that's a testimony in itself. So and I think the

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Speaker 3: reason that I've been in business so long is because

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Speaker 3: God gave me the vision. And when God gives you

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Speaker 2: And they said, are you sure? And I said yeah.

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Speaker 3: So when I say I stepped out on faith, that's

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Speaker 1: Before we get deeper into interview, Okay, your business, get

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Speaker 1: these attired dressing people. You give a website so we

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Speaker 1: at what you do and also making a contribution. Talk

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Speaker 3: Oh sure, So jack is for jobs. Website is Jackets

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Speaker 3: is Alison Vaughn dot com.

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Speaker 2: So I have two websites, but they'll take you to both.

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Speaker 1: Now, when they get there, what's the what what do

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Speaker 1: you expect it for people? When they come to their website,

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Speaker 1: what what what the emotional journey and how can they contribute?

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Speaker 1: Can they donate clothes or ship use jackets or how

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Speaker 2: Oh, I just love you for saying all this. You're

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Speaker 3: Yes, they can go to the website, they can see

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Speaker 3: what we've been doing for the last twenty six years.

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Speaker 3: They can make a monetary donation as well as a

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Speaker 3: clothing donation. So we're always in need of clothes. We're

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Speaker 3: always in need of plus size things. I don't know

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Speaker 3: of plus sized clothes. And then we always can use money.

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Speaker 3: You know, anytime you're in business, especially nonprofit, you're always

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: Wow. So as you as you look up, no, let's

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Speaker 1: for here. You know, letsons learned from moments when funding

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Speaker 1: because we all do that. You talked about five verse

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Speaker 1: five years. It's ugly. Sometimes it's the ten year mark

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Speaker 1: is like, have I wasted my time? You've been doing

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Speaker 1: Talk about that journey, Ali, you know.

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Speaker 3: So that's a good question, because the journey for me

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Speaker 3: God gave me this vision. I and so twenty six

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Speaker 3: Had to go to the library. So I used to

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Speaker 3: go to the library every day and I would check

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Speaker 3: out books on how to be an entrepreneur, grant Writing

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Speaker 2: And so I would get.

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Speaker 3: grant Writing for Dummies. And so that's how I got started.

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Speaker 3: And the Detroit News did an article on me for

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Speaker 3: using the book the Dummy series. Well, that story got

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Speaker 3: Dummy Series read the article and was so happy, and

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Speaker 3: grant Writing for Dummies, all the different Dummy series, And

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Speaker 3: I thought that was so nice, and so I credit

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Speaker 3: my success to the Dummy Series books. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's about educating yourself. It's about you know,

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Speaker 1: understand myself. But it's about education, not giving up. And

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: It was on the job training. But you know, my

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Speaker 3: I credit my mother for being right by my side,

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Speaker 3: had to help send him some help. So the book

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Speaker 1: the long gain here? You know because you start. I know,

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Speaker 1: I've been blessed to in my life. You have a

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Speaker 1: vision and after a while, it can change, It can change,

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Speaker 1: it can change. Like you have two locations. I believe

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Speaker 1: you say you have seven people at each location. You

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Speaker 1: have programs that are put in place. When people look

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Speaker 1: at you, is it pressure to do more? Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you just trying to sustain what you do?

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm going to go as far as God

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Speaker 3: leads me. You know, no matter what I do, I

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Speaker 3: give God credits. So whatever he says or however he leads,

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Speaker 3: continues to leave this organization, That's what I'll do. I

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Speaker 3: always say that God is the founder and he's my boss,

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Speaker 3: take it to my board and I take it to

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Speaker 3: my employees. So I would love to do you know,

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Speaker 3: Netflix and it was kind of about jobs and people.

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Speaker 3: And I would love to do something like that because

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Speaker 3: there's so much Everyone is a walking book and everyone

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Speaker 3: has a story. And I have a young lady that

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Speaker 3: was a victim of sex trafficking and I was wrapping

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Speaker 3: I get involved with the company, not just have my

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Speaker 1: Conversations master class with me Rashaun McDonald. Well, I want

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Speaker 1: She is widely recognized from Alis and Vaughn widely recognized

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Speaker 1: Awesome, awesome if you if this for sounds familiar, it's

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Speaker 1: that loan, What does success look like Alison after twenty

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Speaker 1: five years? Because I teached you about how you started,

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Speaker 1: you know, probably hanging clothes up in your close and

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Speaker 1: they had a little U haul. Now you just should

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Speaker 1: I got two locations. I don't know what you talking about. Now,

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Speaker 1: what does the sense look like after twenty five years

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Speaker 1: going into year twenty six in Detroit and Detroit?

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Speaker 3: You know, I've had so many successes and which has

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Speaker 3: been wonderful, But I have to say one of my

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Speaker 3: favorite success and it actually happened twice for me, and

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Speaker 3: that was ringing the closing bell on NASDK.

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Speaker 1: Wow, congratulations.

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Speaker 3: I rang the closing bell on nas deck twice. The

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Speaker 3: first time the market was down, the second time the

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Speaker 3: market was the up.

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Speaker 2: You know, closing bell you know was up.

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Speaker 3: So to me, that was a wonderful thing because to

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Speaker 3: be in touch and tap into the world market. I

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Speaker 3: just think, you know, thank you Lord for that opportunity.

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Speaker 3: But to me, a success is seeing someone that's unemployed

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Speaker 3: and then they call me and tell me that they

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Speaker 3: have a job. And that's the measure of Those are

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Speaker 3: the metrics that I use, And that's the measure of success.

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Speaker 3: When you can help someone get a job and they

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Speaker 3: can change their whole household. They can change their household

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Speaker 3: to becoming stable and having income come in and then

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Speaker 3: changing the whole direction of their household because now there's

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Speaker 3: money coming in, they're self sufficient. And that's success to

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Speaker 3: me to helping someone else.

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Speaker 1: At this point, let's give out that website again. You

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Speaker 1: have two of them, so people can reach out find

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Speaker 1: out more about you and what you're doing in Detroit

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Speaker 1: saving lives. Over forty thousand of them so far. Forty

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Speaker 1: thousand of them so far, that's.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's right.

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Speaker 3: So anyone interested you can go to Jackets for Jobs

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Speaker 3: dot o RG, or you can go to Alison Vaughn

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Speaker 3: dot com or find me on social media, like on LinkedIn.

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Speaker 3: I'm not on Instagram as much because I'm so busy working.

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Speaker 2: It's so hard social.

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Speaker 1: Media as it is is. Really, I stopped. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: do X anymore, I couldn't do exit. I just told

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Speaker 1: my stuff gotta stop, got to pull up on something.

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Speaker 1: Can't do it all because you you know, just so

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Speaker 1: many platforms that benefit the engagement or reaction that you

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Speaker 1: need for your particular brands. It's all right to be

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Speaker 1: on one or two. You don't have to be across

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Speaker 1: the board. I'm on TikTok, I'm on Instagram, I'm on Facebook,

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Speaker 1: I'm on LinkedIn. It's a lot now. I know you're

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Speaker 1: very popular on LinkedIn, Dollison. Yeah, how do you use

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Speaker 1: LinkedIn for your brand?

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Speaker 2: Basically?

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Speaker 3: I use LinkedIn because I want to be able to

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Speaker 3: connect with donors and our sponsors and our contributors and foundations.

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Speaker 3: So I like to stay engaged so they can see

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Speaker 3: what I'm doing to further the business, and then I

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Speaker 3: want them to see things about jackets for jobs. So

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Speaker 3: that's my business platform. But then I have my Facebook platform,

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Speaker 3: which is a little different. This is what I did

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Speaker 3: for the weekend. I went to the Lions game. But

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Speaker 3: then I might post something different when I'm when I'm

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Speaker 3: on LinkedIn, So it's two different two different personalities, but

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Speaker 3: the same person.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about you've been investing in people, because

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Speaker 1: you know, you said Rashine, we don't use the word

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Speaker 1: welfare anymore, so we right there, tells me the level

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Speaker 1: of people that you're committed to uplifting. Yes, what happens

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Speaker 1: when we don't invest in people? What happens when we

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Speaker 1: start stereotyping people, Because that's what you're trying to do

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Speaker 1: with your your nonprofit is to break stereotype at least

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Speaker 1: by our parents exactly. So talk about it.

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Speaker 2: It's hard.

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Speaker 3: It's really hard because the population and people that I

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Speaker 3: deal with, our government assistant most of them. I do

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Speaker 3: have some that are doing a you know job, you know,

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Speaker 3: transformation or they're transferring into a different career, but for

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Speaker 3: the most part their government assistant clients that I'm dealing with.

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Speaker 3: So I'm dealing with you know, the quote unquote pookies

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Speaker 3: and ray rays and shaniquos, you know if you want to.

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Speaker 3: You're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Stereotypes those quote unquote that type, and we all know

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Speaker 2: what that means.

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Speaker 3: But I just try to change it, you know, That's

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Speaker 3: that's my goal, and I've been doing it, you know

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Speaker 3: pretty well, like you mentioned, twenty.

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Speaker 2: Six years, forty four over forty.

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Speaker 3: Thousand, you know people, so we're doing something right to

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Speaker 3: get to them, and you know, just send them love.

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Speaker 3: And see my sister that I didn't have a relationship with,

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Speaker 3: she died of cancer and she was on welfare and

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Speaker 3: that's one of the reasons why I started this organization.

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Speaker 3: And so everyone that comes in, I'm reminded of my

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Speaker 3: sister and I want to be able to help them

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Speaker 3: because my sister had three kids. She was a welfare

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Speaker 3: recipient and different the children had different fathers. And I said,

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Speaker 3: you know what, I want to be able to help

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Speaker 3: each lady that comes through. I want to be able

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Speaker 3: to help each guy that comes through. And so that's

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Speaker 3: that's my mission. So it is hard to change that stereotype,

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Speaker 3: but you know, once through at a time is all

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Speaker 3: that I can do.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's outstanding advice. And also sharings are known as

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Speaker 1: part of your past, you know, because we all live

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Speaker 1: setbacks and in your business, you looking at them, you

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Speaker 1: see a setback coming to do it. Like you've already

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Speaker 1: told us that level of people you work out, how

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Speaker 1: do you emotionally, Allison, get up going there? Know some

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Speaker 1: people you can help you trying though you can see

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Speaker 1: a person go, I'm still going to give one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent because they need about one hundred percent. How do

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Speaker 1: you as a leader, as a motivator, a person inspires

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Speaker 1: who has tremendous faith. Because you've mentioned it several times

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Speaker 1: during this interview, yes, make it happen every day for you.

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Speaker 1: Because this is a seven it's a seven day a

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Speaker 1: week job. You might go in that money through Friday.

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Speaker 1: Was this a seven day a week job?

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Speaker 2: Talk to us it is.

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Speaker 3: And you know, that's interesting that you mentioned that it's

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Speaker 3: a seven day a week because a couple of weeks

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Speaker 3: ago it was super super cold here in Detroit and

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Speaker 3: we had a lot of extra clothes in one of

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Speaker 3: our warehouses and I said, you know what, in the

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Speaker 3: winter time, you need to layer up. So we're going

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Speaker 3: to open it up. And Fox two News came and

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Speaker 3: did a story that jackets for jobs is giving out

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Speaker 3: clothes so people can layer up. And a young girl

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Speaker 3: had a baby on her back and she was taking

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Speaker 3: the bus. And I thought about that girl all weekend,

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Speaker 3: and it hurt me so bad because I should have

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Speaker 3: told her, if you can just wait till we're done,

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Speaker 3: I can give you a ride home, because she had

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Speaker 3: to get on the bus when it was that day

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Speaker 3: it was one degree and the wind show factor was

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Speaker 3: like minus five. And I thought about that young lady

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Speaker 3: the entire weekend, like gosh, I did not do enough

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Speaker 3: for her, even though we gave her a bag full

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Speaker 3: of clothes, I did not do enough for her. And

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Speaker 3: I think about her all And this just happened a

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Speaker 3: couple you know, like a week and a half ago,

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Speaker 3: but it's just really hard emotional. We keep a box

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Speaker 3: of tisshiel at her desk because we know everyone that

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Speaker 3: walks through has a story. Somebody walked through that was

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Speaker 3: sleeping in their car last night. Somebody walked through just

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Speaker 3: found out that they're pregnant and this is their sixth

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Speaker 3: child and they barely can take care of the five

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Speaker 3: that they have. So if everyone has a story, and

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Speaker 3: so you have to be compassionate. And everyone that I hire,

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Speaker 3: I tell them, in order to have this job, you

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Speaker 3: have to have compassion with each person and not judge.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing you cannot judge.

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Speaker 1: Wow. She's Alis Vaughn, founder and CEO of Jackets for Jobs,

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Speaker 1: Detroit based nonprofit and that'sensmpowered over forty thousand jobs seecret

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Speaker 1: with professional attire and career training. Thank you Alison for

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Speaker 1: coming on Money Making Conversation Masterclass and sharing your story

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Speaker 1: and Detroit is blessed to have you, my friend. Thank

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