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Speaker 1: super special guests singer songwriter Dustin Huff who also might

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Speaker 1: be known you like that just playing up? Singer song

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Speaker 1: who happens to have who happens to be the new

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Speaker 1: typical white tail record holder. Yep, I gotta get lucky sometimes, dude,

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Speaker 1: it's a big deal. Yeah, it's been nuts, man, This

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Speaker 1: past six months been crazy. Here you guys sitting with

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Speaker 1: a dude of the buck named after. Never thought that

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Speaker 1: deer hunting would turn into a business. Uh, we are

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Speaker 1: like your your friends with Luke Combs, and Luke contacted

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Speaker 1: me one night, texted me one night being like holy shit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and at the time, you guys thought it was a

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Speaker 1: state record. Yeah, we just thought it was state hm

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Speaker 1: sent it the picture to Ray Fulter, one of our

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Speaker 1: buddies that we used to tour with, and he's still

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Speaker 1: of the deer because I didn't post it that night.

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Speaker 1: I just tweeted, I think I killed the Indiana state record. Now, okay,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into this whole story. How did you think?

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Speaker 1: But real quick, why did you think it was that

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Speaker 1: just because someone rough scored it? Yeah? I had a

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Speaker 1: buddy come over that that evening after I killed it,

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Speaker 1: and he undershot it. Yeah, that's a good friend. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had like to thirteen, which he had never scored.

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Speaker 1: He was like his first time scoring, you know, a

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Speaker 1: big deer and what did it come in at thirteen

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Speaker 1: is what he had? But no, no, no, that's what

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Speaker 1: he had. It was two eleven and four eights net

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Speaker 1: to sixteen four or to sixteen and two eights gross. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so so he alright, so he overshot the actual Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but how did you not immediately realize because you didn't

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Speaker 1: look at National You just looked at Indiana. I just

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Speaker 1: looked at Indiana. I googled Indiana state record because I

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Speaker 1: had never looked at world records or anything. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: felt like distinctly Indiana, And I was like, well, hell,

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Speaker 1: by like eight ten inches or something. Ye tenant maybe

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Speaker 1: even more so. The only typical white tail bigger out

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Speaker 1: there is in Canada. Canada the handsome handsome buck. If

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Speaker 1: go look at Pat Durkin's truck. He's got a decale

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Speaker 1: of it on his truck. Does he need a huff

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Speaker 1: buck one? You do? Definitely as part of your as

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Speaker 1: Buck stickers. That'd be good. That'd be good. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: get on that. Um, you got your guitar. No, we

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Speaker 1: brought you a guitar. Yeah, I wish you had that

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Speaker 1: whole damn dear head with you. I know, if I

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Speaker 1: I see it, So I guess, my hands how big

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Speaker 1: To clarify, he killed it with a crossbow. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: Dude drown in from West Valley City, Utah. Name is Braxton.

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Speaker 1: There's a thing called is the thing happens to babies?

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Speaker 1: if you're a lady out there, the two of you listening.

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Speaker 1: And all of his turkey hunting, he's ever he's only

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Speaker 1: of ship that makes turkey gobbles? Is that even on there? Sneezes.

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Speaker 1: walking around. Sonic booms, sonic booms, puke in everything, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: just about them getting eaten by predators whatever you like whatever. Alright, Well,

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Speaker 1: world's greatest book ever written called Black Range Tails. It's

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Speaker 1: talking about Yankees. You're talking about people from northern Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, to filets, per salmon, big Box. I'm like

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Speaker 1: off and raise her own. Long story short. At one

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Speaker 1: point there was six jakes and two Tom's that came

424
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Speaker 1: up from the creek. The struck on the two hands,

425
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Speaker 1: and that poor bastard Tommy was working his ass off

426
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Speaker 1: to defend his two hands. He had been fighting so

427
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Speaker 1: much most of the feathers on his breast and legs

428
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Speaker 1: was gone from being spurred off from the wild turkeys.

429
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Speaker 1: I came home from work to find one of the

430
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Speaker 1: hens dead. Didn't think much of it. Maybe she was

431
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Speaker 1: sick or who knows. A few days later I find

432
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Speaker 1: the second hand den with two or three of the

433
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Speaker 1: wild Jakes still breeding her even though she was dead

434
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Speaker 1: and Old Tommy joined the dark side, was joining him period.

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Speaker 1: There's a period that was a sentence that was like

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Speaker 1: an accident, Like I don't think he even meant to

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Speaker 1: put that period. It contained because the next two words

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Speaker 1: of the continuation there's supposed to be an end instead

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Speaker 1: of that period. He was joining in on the fun.

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Speaker 1: Oh sorry, so that's still the same sense. Listen, this

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Speaker 1: is not listen. Here's the thing. This is not the

442
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Speaker 1: dog on the person wrote because it's like everything I

443
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Speaker 1: need to know is here, all the details, everything I

444
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Speaker 1: need to know is here. You could have a guy

445
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Speaker 1: who's real good with a period, who could not who right,

446
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Speaker 1: would not be able to write this story. So this

447
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Speaker 1: is nothing. No comment on that it's great or would

448
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: be a natural break. She was dead and old Tommy

449
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: joined the dark Side and was joining in on the fun. Yeah,

450
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: I was saying, there might be more to the Turkey

451
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: that we have yet to learn. Talking about his hand

452
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 1: rooting through the eggs on his counter. But nature, along

453
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: with man kinda can be pretty brutal. Can you imagine

454
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: being bred to your death? Pretty rough way to go.

455
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Speaker 1: Thanks for all the good work and great educational entertainment.

456
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Speaker 1: You got that last sense on the bright side. On

457
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: the bright side, old tom, he was already half plucked

458
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Speaker 1: for the roaster, and my brother and two of my

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Speaker 1: younger cousins kill a couple of nice times that year,

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Speaker 1: right from the pasture. Heartwarming story. That look good on

461
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Speaker 1: a T shirt. M I'd buy it. Oh, that would

462
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Speaker 1: be a great T shirt. We should get permission, see

463
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Speaker 1: if we could print that out of Oh, dude, we

464
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Speaker 1: gotta do that. He send that Sam James being bred

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Speaker 1: to death? Thank you by sending that to Sam James.

466
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Speaker 1: Those shirts we gotta get. Can you manage this? Gran? Okay?

467
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Speaker 1: I wope. I gotta get my tomatoes in. So here's

468
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Speaker 1: here's what steps you need to take. Asked that gentleman.

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Speaker 1: If we can print it on a T shirt, you'll

470
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Speaker 1: get a free T shirt and then tell Sam we

471
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Speaker 1: just need this worked up on a T shirt. We

472
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Speaker 1: don't do that. I'm thinking, Hell, Vetica, we don't do that.

473
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Speaker 1: We should do a graphic novel. Help either T shirt

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Speaker 1: or grab now hell vedica a big block whatever thing

475
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Speaker 1: looks good, not like a heavy metal fine. It needs

476
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, there's a new Dustin Huff song. Maybe, yeah,

477
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Speaker 1: you could get a couple of lines out of it.

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Speaker 1: Probably you're gonna sing a song, right if y'all want,

479
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Speaker 1: man are my the way I write my initials and

480
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Speaker 1: heavy metal style, like the way you like to say?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's worth? We could just make our

482
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Speaker 1: own Yanni. We could call it Yanni's initial font. Sorry

483
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Speaker 1: you always say I just thought I just wrote my initials.

484
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Speaker 1: When Yanni writes his initials, they're in a heavy metal fine.

485
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Speaker 1: I don't know what it takes to get like a

486
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Speaker 1: font like you want to you want to like draw

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Speaker 1: out the rest of the alphabet. Here's a here's a

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Speaker 1: question came in. This is legit question? Uh hunter from

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Speaker 1: on harry O, Canada rode in with a question that

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Speaker 1: many folks may have its like is that you editorializing? There?

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Speaker 1: Who's saying like many folks may have anything that's not

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Speaker 1: italicized as me writing kran editorializing? The question is is

493
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Speaker 1: he sees a lot of TV shows such as ours,

494
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Speaker 1: he points out, and other folks who shoot big game

495
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: and they'll they'll shoot it and then say they're gonna

496
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Speaker 1: leave it until tomorrow. And he's like, the way I

497
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Speaker 1: was brought up, you're supposed to go get an animal

498
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Speaker 1: no matter what and at least gut it as soon

499
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Speaker 1: as possible to save as much meat as possible. Am

500
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: I wrong to think that way? And am I missing something?

501
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Speaker 1: Or is the carcass okay to be left overnight with

502
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Speaker 1: the guts inside, not knowing if you made a perfect,

503
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: longer heart shot. I'm a meat hunter in Ontario, Canada,

504
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Speaker 1: and this has come up a lot in hunting camp conversations. Uh,

505
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: this is a great opportunity for everybody else's here besides

506
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Speaker 1: dust and to introduce themselves and answer this quick question quickly.

507
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Speaker 1: That way, my dad will be happy like that, He'll

508
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Speaker 1: still be a little upset that Mark Kenyon, Mark Kenyon,

509
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Speaker 1: Why would someone say best leave it till tomorrow? Yeah,

510
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: that's a good question. Uh. And it comes down to

511
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Speaker 1: the fact that not every shot is a perfect lung

512
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Speaker 1: or heart shot. So if you do have that perfect

513
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Speaker 1: shot and you're very confident that deer is going down

514
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: right away, then yeah, go get him. But if either

515
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Speaker 1: from your best guess of where it hit or you

516
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Speaker 1: actually saw where the hit was, if it was farther back,

517
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: there's certain places where you might hit a deer with

518
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Speaker 1: really a bow or a gun that's going to tell

519
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Speaker 1: you that that deer might not die right away. And

520
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: if you were to let's say, hit that deer back

521
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: towards the stomach or the intestines and then go chasing

522
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: after that deer right away, he's probably not dead yet

523
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: and you're more than likely going to bump that deer

524
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Speaker 1: and run it even farther away, in which case you

525
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Speaker 1: might not recover that deer at all. So the idea

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Speaker 1: behind because it might not be bleeding by them. Yeah,

527
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Speaker 1: So the idea is many times a deer like that

528
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Speaker 1: will bed down relatively quickly but might not die for

529
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Speaker 1: four or eight or ten hours. You know, that's that's

530
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Speaker 1: the worst case scenario, But that does happen. So in

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Speaker 1: that case, wait that amount of time, or wait till

532
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Speaker 1: the next morning, and then that deer is probably gonna

533
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Speaker 1: be right where it bettered down at first, and you

534
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: will recover that deer. Now, if it's a hot day,

535
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: you might lose some meat, and that's obviously a worst

536
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Speaker 1: case scenario, but it's better than not recovering the deer

537
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: at all. And if you're hunting later in the year

538
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: when it's cold out, many times that deer will be

539
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: perfectly fine. You'll be able to recover all the meat.

540
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Speaker 1: So I would always rather recover the deer and as

541
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Speaker 1: much of the meat as you can versus zero, which

542
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Speaker 1: is why you would wait in certain situations. I wouldn't

543
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Speaker 1: do it, you know, all the time. I would only

544
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Speaker 1: do it if you have to do it, ladies. Joan

545
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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon now Mark Road an article for the media

546
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Speaker 1: dot com called how long should you Wait to Blood

547
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Speaker 1: Trailer Deer? Where he lays out all the scenario is

548
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Speaker 1: about like longs, guts, stomach, et cetera. Introduce yourself, spencer.

549
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: They spent New h and Mark also pointed out in

550
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Speaker 1: there what his uncle used to do in the nineties,

551
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: tell folks that approach. I remember, yeah, it took me

552
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Speaker 1: a second, but he he would always just this was

553
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Speaker 1: just to get a little bit of a weight after

554
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Speaker 1: he shot a deer. This was during gun season. He

555
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: would always bring a cigar with him, and he smoked

556
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Speaker 1: that victory cigar, and that would force him to wait

557
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Speaker 1: half an hour. So at least he give it a

558
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Speaker 1: little time, because the temptation. A lot of times you're

559
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: so excited you want to get out there right away

560
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: and go find it. But he always at least smoked

561
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Speaker 1: that victory cigar and then he knew, all right, I

562
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: gave it time. Now I can go search. My old

563
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Speaker 1: man was a firm believer, like hadn't like he circumstances

564
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Speaker 1: didn't matter. It was forty five minutes. You could walk

565
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Speaker 1: over and it could look like someone had gone through

566
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Speaker 1: the was with a bucket of paint. Minutes right, no matter,

567
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: you could you could have basically seen it stumble and fall. Yeah,

568
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: just that was it. Yeah, but that's the thing like

569
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Speaker 1: I had that happened, this last fault, like stumbling whirling around,

570
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: does a couple of circles. But then all of a sudden,

571
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: it looks like he's got his feet underneath him and

572
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: he rolls over the horizon. There's lots of blood. But

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00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, you just don't know, and

574
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: like it is a good rule unless you see him

575
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,479
Speaker 1: laying there with his tongue out. A friend was telling

576
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Speaker 1: me he gets story. He was just down fishing alligator

577
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: guards and he a guy was describing to him, how

578
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: long when your bomber goes down, how long to wait

579
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Speaker 1: for you set the hook? And he said, you want

580
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Speaker 1: to wait as long as it takes to smoke a

581
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Speaker 1: whole cigarette. And my friend doesn't smoke, and he pointed out,

582
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Speaker 1: he doesn't know what that means. He doesn't smoke, and

583
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: he said. The guy got kind of irritated and said,

584
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Count Hey, I feel like we're missing.

585
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: We're not answering his question. I'm not done with the question.

586
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Speaker 1: Can I tell you what Mark specifically wrote in this

587
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: article heart shot? I write it better than I said it.

588
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: Let me let me tell you what Mark says, heart

589
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Speaker 1: shot recover right away, double lung thirty to ninety minutes,

590
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Speaker 1: single lung or liver uh four to six hours, gut

591
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 1: shot eight to twelve hours. But yeah, but the deer

592
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Speaker 1: to have to kind of yell out what he what

593
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: happened to it? This is this is if you can

594
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: where there's a lot evidence on your arrow to to

595
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: tell you where you hit. Now, I think to even

596
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Speaker 1: more fully answer this if someone said, and I'll ask you, Mark,

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Speaker 1: have you ever in your life had someone know for

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Speaker 1: a fact that the deer was dead and just out

599
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: of sheer laziness say I'll go get it tomorrow. I

600
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: couldn't think of a single person I've ever met. It's

601
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: always you want to get it right now. That would

602
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: just be someone being lazy and dumb. Yeah. Uh. I

603
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: one time, eight at night kill the bowl my bow,

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00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 1: and it was dusk, and it was in an area

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Speaker 1: with a lot of grizzly bears, and made a decision

606
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: I'll regret. And we didn't want to open it up

607
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: until the next day because we didn't want to open

608
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,959
Speaker 1: it up in the dark and let all that stink out.

609
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: And I mean it was already like getting dark, and

610
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: we were back in the pre dawn darkness and had

611
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: already lost the area around the ball joints and had

612
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: lost the tenderloins on it. And I always saw I

613
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: should have just lit a big fire, sucked it up

614
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: and got it done. And I thought it was supposed

615
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Speaker 1: to get cold that night, And then laying there for

616
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Speaker 1: a few hours, We're like, we had to hike a

617
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Speaker 1: couple of miles back to our gear laid there and

618
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Speaker 1: just like all now, I'm like, it's not getting cold's

619
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Speaker 1: not getting cold, and went back and just felt like

620
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: a dumbass. And I think even when it is cold,

621
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Speaker 1: an animal like an elk, like they trapped peat, Like

622
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: it could be twenty degrees out and you're gonna lose

623
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Speaker 1: me because heats just trapped inside of him. Yeah, And

624
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: it was just being like lazy and nervous and kind

625
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: of like overwhelmed by the logistics of like how are

626
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Speaker 1: you gonna go get all our ship and we'll be

627
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: one around the middle of the night, and like I

628
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: just made a dumb right, not something I'll do again.

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Speaker 1: Brodies here. So you feel like we answered it thoroughly

630
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: because there's that what the one thing that didn't get

631
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Speaker 1: mentioned is whatever you want to do, let me know

632
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Speaker 1: what I can go on. I am We never like

633
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Speaker 1: talked about when the animal is shot, like this is

634
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Speaker 1: like I'm assuming an animal that's shot right before dark

635
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Speaker 1: you do to me, I'm asking, I'm out. So Yanny

636
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: says it's time to move on. You don't want to

637
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: engage anymore. Maybe you can't clarify for me because I don't.

638
00:37:55,880 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: It's said that the question is he sees a lot

639
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: of TV shows such as ours and other folks who

640
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: shoot the game with it being a far hike to

641
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: retrieve the animal. Then they say, wait till tomorrow. What's

642
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: the explained to me what he's meaning by being a

643
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: far hike to retrieve the animal and how that plays

644
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: into the question you follow me. I'm sorry to see

645
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm confused by the question and that part of the question,

646
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: and you're asking me, yeah, I declare. That's why I'm

647
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: asking if you felt like you answered it thoroughly, if

648
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: you if first of all, you have to understand the question.

649
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he might be confusing two things.

650
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: That's why did you see the little addendum the addendum

651
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: I did? Or I said to know that it's dead

652
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: and just put it off till tomorrow isn't a thing

653
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,959
Speaker 1: I'm aware of. And then I went on to site

654
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: a time when I did that and what circumstances drove

655
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: me to make that decision, and pointed out that I

656
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: had in fact regretted that decision. Do you feel there's

657
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: more to well? It just it still just doesn't answer

658
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: or clarify the part about like how it's like a

659
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: far hike to retrieve the animal. But I think you're wrong.

660
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what he means where he's just like,

661
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know what he means by that inflating

662
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: two things. Yeah, but nobody else either has any idea

663
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: what he's trying to say. Oh, like he's saying, you

664
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: did it because it was a far hike. He'll have

665
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: to right back in again. Do you guys know that? Uh?

666
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: Seth and Chester in the Walleye Tournament their first walleye

667
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: tournament Day one the seventy boats. They finished day one

668
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: number seven. They were hoping to do top twenty. They

669
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: finished Day one number seven their first ever walleye tournament

670
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: fishing in there. They had their fishing in their alumacraft.

671
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: We did all that begging and pleading to get him

672
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: a walleye boat. We got him a wallet boat from

673
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: a Lumacraft. So they're like a like a sponsored by

674
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: a lumacraft. Finished Day one number seven, had a couple

675
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: of problems, finished the tournament number seventeen out of seventy

676
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: five boats, but still took a cash prize. Huh how

677
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: much that? How much was it? How much is unterbucks

678
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: to conservation. Where are they? Where are they kicking that too?

679
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: They gotta wait and see. They gotta wait and see

680
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: how they do on the next ones. But those boys

681
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: first ever Walleye tournament finished day one number seven, finished

682
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: the tournament at number seventeen. Their goals to finish top twenty. Yeah,

683
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: says said he lost a monster the second day. That

684
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: would have really, they would have pushed him up. I'm

685
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 1: stoked for him. That's so damn good. That's a hard

686
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: body of water fish, especially when you live like six

687
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: hours away. Them to roll up there and get I'm

688
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: gonna tear that place a new one. This weekend guy

689
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: wrote in real riled up about Bighorn National Forest in Wyoming.

690
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're they're looking to start charging for dispersed camping.

691
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: This is a solution brought forward two years ago by

692
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: the Get This Big Horn Mountains Coalition Dispersed Camping Task Force. Currently,

693
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: the forest requires campers to move at least five miles

694
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: after fourteen days in one location. This is just to

695
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: prevent you from being cute right and moving into an

696
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: area and then like moving to the other side of

697
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: the valley, to the other side of the meadow and

698
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: staying another fourteen days, and then moving back to the

699
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: other side of the meadow and staying another fourteen days. Currently,

700
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: the forest requires campers to move at least five miles

701
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: after fourteen days in one location. However, many campers, trailers,

702
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: and recreational vehicles are left on the mountain unoccupied for

703
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: much longer than fourteen days. I'm aware of this where

704
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: and I've I've been guilty this in the past. We're

705
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: let's say you're gonna go camping for a weekend and

706
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: you want some really cherry spot that you know about.

707
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: You drive over on Wednesday and park the old camper

708
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: or you'll get to a spot and there's nothing there,

709
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: but it's old tent mm hm, like no coolers, no walk,

710
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: like an old tent, and that dude's like basically like

711
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: my spot. You back in a few days. So that's

712
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: when I go about cleaning up the forest, you know,

713
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: and just that's when you clean up. Yeah, like, oh,

714
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: someone's forgotten old. However, many campers, trailers, and recreational vehicles

715
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: are left on the mountain unoccupied for much longer than

716
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: fourteen days, which can cause frustration for other recreationalists who

717
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: are following the rules and seeking a new place to

718
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: camp in in fourteen days. One potential solution forwarded by

719
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: the task force is the implementation of a yearly sticker

720
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 1: all dispersed campers would have to purchase. The sticker would

721
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: make it as as these UH personnel for Service personnel

722
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: are saying, the sticker would make it much easier to

723
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: contact users who are violating the forests fourteen day rule.

724
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: In addition, the Forest is considering extending the fourteen days

725
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: stay order throughout the year. Currently, the order extends from

726
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 1: June one through September thirty. When I was turkey hunting

727
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: recently up in the northwest corner of the state, I

728
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: found where a dispersed camper had basically set up a community.

729
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: I mean they were there to stay on National forest land.

730
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: I imagine that it looked like they had spent the

731
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: entire winter there. The order extends June one through September thirty,

732
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: and campers can stay in one place for as long

733
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: as they want outside of those four months. Bighorn National

734
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: Forest is currently the only national forest without year round

735
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: limits on dispersed camping. Guys real mad about it. He's

736
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: mad about the fees they want to change. What he

737
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: says is going on. The Bighorn National Forest plans to

738
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: charge in order to disperse camp on public lands. This

739
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: is an abuse of the FIG program and a blatant

740
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: shake down of public landowners. Let folks know about this issue.

741
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: Encourage them to write to their centers before the Forest

742
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: Service gets drunk on fees. Please don't use my name

743
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 1: or email. I gotta I gotta think on that one.

744
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: Anyone got immediate? Yeah, I don't have a problem with it.

745
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: A twenty stick are you throw on there to go

746
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: camping on national forests? What's the what's the big deal?

747
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: I agree, I'm right. I'm right there with you, Brody.

748
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: I feel that we take it for granted just because

749
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: it's public land. We think that it's should be just

750
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: a free for all. I mean, they should be for free.

751
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: But those roads that you drive in to access your

752
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: public lands with guests, what they have to be maintained

753
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 1: and the people that do that need to be paid.

754
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 1: It's not like the Forest Services rolling in cash, you

755
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah? I mean, did Carl Malcolm

756
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: have a new truck when you guys saw him recently,

757
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: Steve's not listening anymore. He's onto the next article. But like,

758
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: my job is to keep the show rolling. So I'm

759
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: just looking ahead, thinking, and you guys can talk about

760
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: what you need to talk about. Um, I want we're

761
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: gonna get into this big gass white tailed mini here. Mark,

762
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: what do you think you wrote a whole book about

763
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: how public lands are managed? Yeah, I think it's a

764
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: hell of a deal. I think twenty bucks for a

765
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: year worth of camping, that's pretty good. But now as

766
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 1: good a deal as zero. Yeah, but you could say

767
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: it remains a hell of a deal. Man. I think

768
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: it's not a bad idea that we'd be a little

769
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 1: more invested in them. Like you guys both said, there's

770
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of costs to managing

771
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: those places. Let's put our money where our more. I

772
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: think we should add like a half a cent federal

773
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: sales tax. Oh. I would support that. That would just

774
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: directly go to all public lands. I had to give

775
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: a talk down in Florida the are day, and you

776
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: know how everybody, how it's become, to use Tom mcgwain's expression,

777
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: it's become over observed Pittman, Robertson has become over observed

778
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,720
Speaker 1: among hunters, right like every hunter on the planet now

779
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: likes to point out Pittman Robertson contributions, which for people

780
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: have been hiding under living under a rock. Um. There

781
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: is a federal excise tax on all guns and AMMO

782
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,240
Speaker 1: and other sporting goods equipment to the tune of about

783
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: thirteen percent. So when you buy a gun or you

784
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,479
Speaker 1: buy any AMMO, you're paying at exercise tax that goes

785
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: to support wildlife conservation, and most of the money comes

786
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: from recreational shooters. What is higher comes from recreational shooters.

787
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: So a new Jersey cat lady who buys a pocket

788
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: pistol is kicking into Pittman Robertson. She might also belong

789
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: to Peter, but when she bought the pocket pistol of

790
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: that morning went to wildlife work. So I don't remember

791
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: what the hell it is. Someone tell me what it is. Then,

792
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: overwhelming majority of the money is from recreational shooters, not hunters.

793
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: Where's that going with this? Oh? I was pointing out

794
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: when I gave a talk in Florida the other day

795
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: about the future of hunting. I said, I invited the

796
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: audience to ponder, can you as much as hunters like

797
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: to celebrate Pittman Robertson industry people celebrate Pittman Robinson. Can

798
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: you imagine what they would do to you today if

799
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: you said, I got an idea, right, here's my idea.

800
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: Every time you buy a gun and every time you

801
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: buy AMMO, let's make it that there's a thirteen percent

802
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: federal tax on that purchase. It would never happen, and

803
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: it'll go to wildlife habitat. Dude. They would they would

804
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: hang you. Oh dude, it would make they would hang you.

805
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: It would make the deal that went down at the

806
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: country's capital not too long ago. It would make that

807
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: look like a little rainbow gathering. I think for so

808
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: long most people hunters or recreational shooters didn't even know

809
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: they were contributing that way. You know, it's just like

810
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: a thing that became. But no, but we'd love to celebrate.

811
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, okay, how would you receive it

812
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: being increased? They would hang you. It just wouldn't happen. Well,

813
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: you're seeing it with the backpack tax ideas for you know, backpackers, hikers, bikers,

814
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: The idea of doing similar tax on that kind of gear,

815
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: and year after year that keeps getting shut down. What

816
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: about a duck stamp for public lands? Like that kind

817
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: of approach. I would love it if someone now came

818
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: and said, hey, man, if you want to hunt ducks,

819
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: you gotta kick down. What does the duck stamp right now?

820
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: Do you want to hunt ducks? Actually actually bucks? Starting

821
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: right now? All goes to the feds. Yeah, but you

822
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: don't think that like, not just for ducks, but for

823
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: for public land hunters in general. Why would have to

824
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: be hunters? Why wouldn't it just be everyone who uses

825
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: public lands? Well, I think that it's even better, but

826
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: just because I think because it's not just the money

827
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: to be the administrative the administrative stuff like so for instance,

828
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: my my my wife likes to go hike the m okay,

829
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,959
Speaker 1: she'd also be like, hm, I need to do what right?

830
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: It would be like an administrate because you're you're take

831
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: like hunters are. It's ingrained in hunters. If there's like

832
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: this whole regulatory structure and it's like everyone knows like

833
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: you gotta go jump through all these hoops and and

834
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: like dudes that ride their mountain bikes, they're sort of

835
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 1: like blissfully unaware. They're blissfully unaware of all the ship

836
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 1: everybody else has to do. Right, do you gotta get

837
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: a permit and past these like classes? And if you can't,

838
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: their heads and melt. Still a good idea? Sure? I

839
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: support it. I support I think it. You buy a

840
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: mountain bike, there should be every mountain bike and every

841
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: trail shoes should have a excise tax fifty big number.

842
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: But any mountain bike? What about an e bike? All right?

843
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: The huff? First? Tell us how you got How do

844
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: you get into the music business? I left my hometown

845
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: when I was nineteen, two months after graduating high school

846
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: and packed car, packed truck up, moved down to do

847
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: what you like? Moved to Nashville nineteen. Didn't no person

848
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: down there? How old are you? No? Then? What happened

849
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: when you did that? Where'd you go live? I just

850
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: had a one barroom apartment, started playing open mikes, uh,

851
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 1: met some people started writing Met Luke and two years

852
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: after moving to town and started going on the road

853
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 1: with him. Hang with it, those guys, and the rest

854
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: is history. You see like America even more. It's crazy.

855
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: So you're obviously playing guitar and singing and doing all

856
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: that stuff a good bit before you left town moved out,

857
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: like when you were in your teenage years. I mean,

858
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: I started playing guitar when I was twelve. I wrote

859
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: my first song when I was fourteen, and hold room.

860
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: You killed your first deer that's twelve, twelve years old,

861
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: killed my first squirrel when I was ten. You can

862
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: start playing guitar because of that. But you killed a

863
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: deer at twelve and started playing guitar. What was your

864
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: subject matter? What do you mean like, what was this

865
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: sort of your theme of your music? Just life, small

866
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: town stuff girls, not hunting. Oh yeah, hunting was in there.

867
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: Two trucks, hunting, fishing. Where's the guitar over there? Hey?

868
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: Over a guitar? CRN. I want you just give us

869
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: a little sample so as we get into the story

870
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: of this world record, white Tail, the beginning of it.

871
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: Whatever the hell? Any song have you written a song

872
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: about that buck yet? I have, But give us a

873
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: little liock of that. I'll play one that. Oh that's

874
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: just kind of Phili help you get set up there?

875
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: What do you need to do? Phil Goung No, he's

876
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: gonna give us a little teaser and then we'll have

877
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: a full song later, Okay, right now, it's just a teaser,

878
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. So you know, like the guy that

879
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: killed the world record white tail typical white tail or

880
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: sorry national typical white tail record, I should be fishing

881
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: somewhere on a boat, floating something cold. Can't you really?

882
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: In five pound largemouth? Good time? Grand? Yeah, I should

883
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: be fishing. Little teaser, little teaser. So you learn in

884
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: high school, packed up, move to Nashville. Were you surprised

885
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: when I said he started to make it? I don't

886
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 1: know about making it, but I mean it was just

887
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: cool to be in there. Do you have a day job? No?

888
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: Play music full time and right full time? And I

889
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: might call that making it? Yeah, I guess so, But

890
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 1: what you want? What do you call making it? I

891
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: don't know. Number one, that's making it for me? That's

892
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: what I want, That's that's what you're shooting for. Well,

893
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: I think there's like degrees of it. But I think

894
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: if you can, if you set out in the arts

895
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 1: and you get to where you don't have to do

896
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: anything else, that's making it Part one. I agree, Yeah,

897
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: but you're still hunted. You still went hunting back home yep.

898
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: Did you start Do you hunt more where you came

899
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: from or more down in Nashville, Indiana? Yeah, that's where

900
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: I'm at now. I've moved down there, But then I

901
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: moved back at like twenty four and then I was

902
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: just traveling back and forth, going every other week, every

903
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: other two weeks or so. So, yeah, I live in

904
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: Indiana now. But was that part of your plan to

905
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 1: go back there once you kind of got a foot

906
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: in the door. Uh, it always was. I just didn't

907
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: know how soon I would, you know, I didn't know

908
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: if it'd be thirty five. You're married. I got a girlfriend.

909
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: How long you had a girl? From? Four years? You

910
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: couldn't get married to her? Oh? Yeah, that's the that's

911
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: the next step. What's her first name? Mackayley? Okay? Uh?

912
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: What's the property you were hunting on? H five acre

913
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: hog farm? Same farm I killed my first scorel on

914
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 1: where I killed my first deer. Used to vaccinate hogs

915
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: on it when I was a kid. Who olds the farm,

916
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: big farmer, You shouldn't be saying that, man, Well, everybody

917
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: already knows in my hometown, there's already Pete. Well, there's

918
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: a lot more people than your home towel his name

919
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: your absolutely not. Would you not say that? I'd better

920
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: say than sorry? Yeah? Why and why are you guys

921
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: so adamant about that? Because on X makes it so

922
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: damn easy, Yanny, I could find your property in one

923
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 1: minute from now if I wanted, I understand, But would

924
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: you uh, well, you'd have to know my wife's name.

925
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: But that's true. What do you think is gonna happen?

926
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe started, Maybe there's like a quarter mile away.

927
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: Maybe the neighbor has his farm, he's already have, he's

928
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: already I mean, people already know where it is. We're

929
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: already finding deer with their heads cut off, I mean

930
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: right outside of this property, so people in our Yeah,

931
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: it's it's terrible. So yeah, I've already been in contact

932
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: with d n R about it, and I dude, we've

933
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: already found three deer with their heads cut off after this,

934
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: So it's brutal, like they're people are are who would

935
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: be out shooting deer moving over in that region at night.

936
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:48,360
Speaker 1: People's neighbors around have been finding people on trail cams

937
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: nate at late at night. It's crazy, all because of

938
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: a deer. So in order to not add to that,

939
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: Phil should bleep it out. Yeah, maybe we should leave

940
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: it out. Doesn't give it a body years place. It's

941
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: my dad's one of my dad's best friends. And you

942
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: grew up on that property. He did too, pretty much.

943
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: I mean once them two became buddies in high school.

944
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: I mean they were hunting together into their twenties thirties,

945
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: and whenever I came and how how would you describe

946
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: the property? I mean they raised some crops on it

947
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: or yeah, it's probably crops and timber. And what would

948
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: be like a normal deer that gets killed there? Well,

949
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: my biggest was a hundred thirty four inch that I

950
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: killed in named him Larry. And did you guys feel

951
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 1: like that was a big buck? Oh? That was like,

952
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I was. Yeah. I was calling my dad, Hey,

953
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: you gotta get off four man, you gotta come see this, dear.

954
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 1: You know. But his uh the Catur County Highway Department

955
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: and uh, but his biggest one, which was the biggest

956
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: on the property hunt and which what I was a

957
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: freshman whenever he killed that, well, so like you know, no,

958
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: I mean not even close to what got but I

959
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: mean like like good deer. Yeah, there's always good deer there.

960
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: But I mean, our only rule is fifteen inches wide.

961
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: If he looks like he's fifteen inches, you can shoot him.

962
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,919
Speaker 1: And then dude does the hard farmer hunted too. He's

963
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: got other properties that he farms, and he goes and

964
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: hunts the cabin woods. It's just another another one down

965
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: the road. How many guys are hunt pretty much just

966
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: me and my dad and my nephew East and just

967
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: got into it. He killed his first deer with me

968
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: this past year. And uh he's seven, so me him

969
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: and then maybe two other guys on occasions, but pretty

970
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 1: much just me and my dad. Did you guys run

971
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: trail cameras out there? I don't run trail cams because

972
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: you just don't. Because you don't. I used to in

973
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: high school. Uh just never really do no more. I

974
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: just I felt like when I was in high school,

975
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: I always I would always go to where that camera was.

976
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: So I just decided I'm just gonna go deer hunting.

977
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: That's just kind of what I started doing. Does the

978
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: property have some like historical tree stands that your dad

979
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: hunted out at one time and now you hunt him? Yeah?

980
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: So I God, I know the property like the back

981
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: of my hand. So I just kind of where I've

982
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: killed dear seen deer, where Dad I killed has killed

983
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: dear senior. I just go put my climber up, or

984
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: I got four set stands on the property and just

985
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: kind of mix it up. Hunt a gun season, archery season. Yeah,

986
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: did you used to hunt with the regular bowl before

987
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: you start hunting the cross bowl? Yeah? To gross on

988
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: my shoulder, I still got him. I want to fill him. Yeah,

989
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: where are they on there? I don't want to right

990
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: back here? You can feel they just said I can

991
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: get it cut out, But it's right on some nerve

992
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: right there. But it's one's growing on the bone that

993
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: the new one is. And that's that's why I think

994
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: I can't get a bow back no more, because sometimes

995
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: it'll catch like I'll get sometimes I'll be watching TV

996
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: and my right arm will just go tingly. So can

997
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 1: anybody hold with the crossbow in Indian or do you

998
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 1: have to get like a doctor's per No, you can now. Yeah.

999
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 1: So I bow hunted from fourteen to like twenty, and

1000
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: then I bought a used crossbow from my buddy. What

1001
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: kind of crossboards you get? What the heck is Striker

1002
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: Striker crossbow. So I've been using that ever since you

1003
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: got a nicer one, since shooting that huffbuck. I don't

1004
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: Striker hasn't reached out. I don't think they make them

1005
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: no more. I think they were made by bow Tech,

1006
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: but I don't think they Yeah, so huh, yeah, they

1007
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: want to remake them. I guess. Now, do you hear

1008
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: is there like a network of hunters in the area

1009
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 1: where you're hearing about what's going on of this deer? No? No, no,

1010
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: like like in the vicinity of this property. Yeah, and

1011
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: we're in Southeast Indiana, Southeast Indiana, in the vicinity of

1012
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: this property. Like, and I know that you got like

1013
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: you got a one thirties buck. Okay, your old man

1014
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 1: got a one fifties buck? What you're did you get that?

1015
00:59:55,360 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: That was I was a freshman, so twenty ten maybe. Meanwhile,

1016
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: are you hearing like, um oh, Joel blow On the

1017
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: next place over got a one ninety Yeah you hear

1018
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: stuff like that, But I mean it's you know, a

1019
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: hundred fifty in hundred sixties pushing it. You're like, damn,

1020
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 1: he got a hundred sixty inches deer. You know, like

1021
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 1: usually about one thirty to one fifty is like the

1022
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: big deer. It hasn't gotten better through your lifetime like

1023
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: so many places have. Yeah, I mean it went for

1024
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: about two years after I graduated high school. It was

1025
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: pretty bad because we just took a ton of deer

1026
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: off of it. When I was a kid man, I

1027
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: was just you know, whatever it was. And so I

1028
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: actually let it go for about two years and then

1029
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: I started hunting it again. And yeah, so I was

1030
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: hunting my sister's property a county over letting some just

1031
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,560
Speaker 1: I was just letting it because I wasn't seen any deer,

1032
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: so I was just like, let's just let it go. Um.

1033
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 1: And then my nephew Easton started getting into it just

1034
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 1: this past year, and I was like, which I had

1035
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: hunted at the killed that one thirty four, But that

1036
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: was the first year that I really started hunting it again.

1037
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: Was in got back into it, hunting two weeks straight,

1038
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: just trying to beat my one thirty four, and the

1039
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: first shooter that walked out was moose. So on this

1040
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: on this topic of how things have changed, a big

1041
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 1: change happened in Indiana. I mean you probably know the

1042
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: day better than maybe ten years ago. Eight nine ten

1043
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 1: years ago, Indiana switched to a one buck a year rule.

1044
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: So now all that's no matter what it was right

1045
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: before I started hunting. So when I was twelve, it

1046
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: was one buck, one dough and then it went to

1047
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: like one buck two does. But before then you could

1048
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: kill two bucks. I believe that was before I was

1049
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: deer hunting. But so the there's been a lot of

1050
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 1: talk about how much Indiana has bumped up in the

1051
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: record books and stuff like that since switching to that.

1052
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 1: It's become much more of a quote unquote trophy destination

1053
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: because those bucks. A whole lot more people are thinking

1054
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: before shooting because they know they'll be done, and I do, like,

1055
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: I want to shoot the first one I see, and

1056
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: then with my second tag. Look at Michigan, you heard

1057
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 1: that a lot. So that was the first buck you saw?

1058
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: That was the first shooter I saw it. I was

1059
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: on day seven or eight, um days. Maybe I'm jumping ahead,

1060
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: but no, I'm gonna say it wasn't you Can you

1061
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: wait for the for it to get ready for that?

1062
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm I'll wait? What is it?

1063
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: On that line of thinking? Here? Does it take us

1064
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: back a little bit it's on the line of thinking

1065
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: of this buck, like he said he shot. It was

1066
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: the first buck he saw. I have a question about that,

1067
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: but it could have been asking answer right now. Wait, yeah,

1068
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: we're just not to the buck yet. Well I thought

1069
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: we were, he said it was he jumped? Did he jumped?

1070
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. The man's just a songwriter.

1071
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: What I do with my hands. You'll end up asking

1072
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: the same question I bet. Oh, yeah, I have no doubt.

1073
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: I just want to like. But then you get all

1074
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: the glory for asking. No. No, I want to ask

1075
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: when we get to the deer. I'm not gonna ask

1076
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 1: sliding the note. Sliding the note when I'm trying to

1077
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: establish here is I'm trying to establish um to what degree.

1078
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: There's like a rumor around town or whatever about an

1079
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: absolute toad running around people been seeing I had never

1080
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: even heard about him. Tell after I killed him, that's

1081
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: what no one at church is like, holy shit, and

1082
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever. There was only two people that

1083
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 1: in my area. They came by the next day and

1084
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: was like, start showing me trail camp pictures videos. They

1085
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: secretly knew about it. They were sharing it with us,

1086
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: you know, like there, oh, here's a one forty we've

1087
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: been after. But nobody knew about this deer. It had

1088
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: been pretty quiet, but I think everybody knew about the deer,

1089
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: just no one's willing to hear that. People were some

1090
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: people were aware of for two to three years, were

1091
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: aware of this deer and I didn't even but they

1092
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: weren't blabbing about it. Yeah, they weren't blabbing about it.

1093
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't Did they know that we're spending a lot

1094
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: of time on your place? No, they didn't know. I mean,

1095
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: it was this deer was traveling so far, dude, it

1096
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: was It's crazy. He we got confirmed eight miles whoa Yeah,

1097
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: did this buck have a name by other people? Yeah?

1098
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: So the guy eight miles he had him as a

1099
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: mega time junior. Yeah, apparently five six years prior there

1100
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: was a one that that guy killed that they believe

1101
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: was this the sire this genetics? So I don't know,

1102
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 1: Mark Ken the guy. Is he the one who named it?

1103
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: Legati J Mark's drunk, that's like, yeah, So then I

1104
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: named him moose after I well, actually whenever I saw

1105
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: him coming the originally like that's a freaking moose man.

1106
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: That's just stup. Can we can we go back to

1107
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: the eight mile away guy? Yeah? Who's this guy? His names?

1108
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: You want to bleep that? Give me? And what's his story? Dustin? Can?

1109
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: I if I were you, I wouldn't even be talking

1110
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: about my sister's property one county away. That's too specific.

1111
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 1: I don't get too shook up about it. It's because

1112
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: this is a great time I think to bring up

1113
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: how Dustin is not the same hunter that Spencer and

1114
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:36,440
Speaker 1: Mark are, right, we need to talk about those differences

1115
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: and why these guys like right now their panties are

1116
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: literally in a wad because I'm saying here, like yeah,

1117
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: it's good. Yeah, it's like shooting. I just go deer hunting.

1118
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 1: I love deer hunting. Good. So, like you're apprehension based

1119
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: on the fact that people are just gonna descend on

1120
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: this corner about Indian hard to like find a property

1121
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: hunt that I'm really stoked on, whether it's public land

1122
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: or by permission or whatever, that I would not tell

1123
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: my wife like what I'm doing, or like what property

1124
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,919
Speaker 1: I'm on, because that's like how like he fell out

1125
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: of a tree about died, laid there for days because

1126
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: he didn't like to tell anyone where he hunts, becau,

1127
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 1: his wife didn't even know. His wife didn't even know

1128
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: how to, didn't have any idea where to say. When

1129
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: he never came home, She's like, I don't know he's

1130
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: out hunting. The stakes are that high. Yeah, but this

1131
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: happens all the time. I mean, I'm sure it happens

1132
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: out west too, but locally in the Midwest, it happens

1133
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: to myself. I've got guys trying to least stuff around me,

1134
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,680
Speaker 1: or at least stuff that I have access to for free.

1135
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: They find out that you hunt there, they've seen what

1136
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 1: you've killed there, and all of a sudden's gone, or

1137
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: they hear from the lantern, well, I'm being offered five

1138
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: thousand dollars by this other guy. I got to share

1139
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 1: something a little behind the scenes. If he was like,

1140
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: if he let me tell a story, I'll try to

1141
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: make quick one night. Like, here's advice for anyone with kids,

1142
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: anyone married with kids. If you want your wife to

1143
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: not be mad at you, take your kids to go

1144
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: do whatever you're going to do. No one ever got

1145
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:17,479
Speaker 1: mad at a spouse who had took all the kids

1146
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: to do something. You're like bulletproof. Except one night, uh,

1147
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: me and my buddy Tony took all of our kids.

1148
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: So we had a shipload of kids and we took

1149
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: clan digging and things got carried away and we were

1150
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: gone way late on a school night, and I got

1151
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: on the phone driving and got yelled at. And then

1152
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: he got a call and got yelled at. And he

1153
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: said to me, um, if they if this is his quote,

1154
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: if we were the way they wanted us to be,

1155
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: they wouldn't like us. My wife's like, yeah, I would,

1156
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: But point being if he is like like, oh, like that,

1157
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be on the show because I would have

1158
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: been like just a if he was a big buck

1159
01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: blow hard, that's a big buck blow hard. I wouldn't

1160
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: have been like wanting to talk to him. I like

1161
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: big buck blowhards. What I'm saying, it wouldn't have been

1162
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,639
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't have I wouldn't have been an entertaining

1163
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: story to me. Yeah, I get that. Are you jealous

1164
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: that he has a buck named after him? Now? I

1165
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: don't have a buck name after me. You do? You

1166
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: never seen it? It's on my water, But I imagine,

1167
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: oh right, the buck I killed when you were off

1168
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: in the hospital. Oh, that was the one that helped

1169
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: you pack. I made a sticker and it was called

1170
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 1: the Ronella Bucks. Yeah. He made a really nice decal,

1171
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 1: the kind of you like put the whole decal behind

1172
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: it on something and then you ate a couple of

1173
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: minutes from it in and then you peel that big

1174
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: plastic people off and the decal is just left. Well,

1175
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 1: Steve ran around with the whole thing on because I

1176
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: didn't know that, Like, hey man, I, unless you're really

1177
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: trying to protect that decal, you know, you can peel

1178
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: that other part off. And I look to do it. It

1179
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: It was too late to kind of ruin the did

1180
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,720
Speaker 1: the decail have you like fidgeting with your belt and

1181
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: your pants? You my pants around my knees. Uh. The

1182
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: guy that was eight miles away, um, he was onto it. Yeah.

1183
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: So he came like three or four days after I

1184
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: killed this deer, and I got a Facebook message from him,

1185
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: was like, Hey, dude, this is gonna be crazy, but

1186
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,400
Speaker 1: I hunt over here. I'm pretty sure I was hunting

1187
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: that deer, you know, And I had already had a guy.

1188
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say the name, so we don't have

1189
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: to bleep it out. But so this I'm writing all

1190
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 1: this down. I kind of a shark here Bill Bill

1191
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: sell all this Bill is gonna go in alive and

1192
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: started selling unbleeped the unbleeped cut. Yeah. I've been doing

1193
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: it for about the two and a half years now.

1194
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 1: It's nothing new. Website pops up dot com. Yeah. But

1195
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: uh so he come over the next day because he

1196
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: wanted to see this dear. He knew that was that

1197
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,559
Speaker 1: was the deer. You know, he had this deer after

1198
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: talking to him in his sights the year before as

1199
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: an eleven pointer, guests him at about two yards freehand,

1200
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: couldn't pull the trigger. So he comes over and oh,

1201
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 1: he just put his head down right when I opened

1202
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: up at walk in cooler. He just goes, that's him,

1203
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: because that's him, And I said yeah, And then he

1204
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 1: starts showing me all the cams you know, trail camp

1205
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: picks videos. Oh yeah, so I mean he had three

1206
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: years to three years of him. And then, like I said,

1207
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: three or four days later, come down. He's like twenty

1208
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: five minutes away and uh starts showing me from Moose

1209
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: as a three and a half year old ten pointer

1210
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: two an eleven and then into twelve when I killed him,

1211
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: He jumped from one seventy five to whenever I killed you.

1212
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 1: A lot of people have his sheds. One guy found

1213
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 1: so what is his name? I don't even know his

1214
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: they shoote. I can't remember. But anyways, he brought him

1215
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: to the Indianapolis show. I had moose at and uh

1216
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 1: he side by, he said, I found side by side

1217
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: and he had him scored there one with giving him

1218
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 1: a twenty inch spread. Never from the year before. That's

1219
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: from the year before. W'd you kill him? Was it

1220
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: during the rut? Yeah? It was November four, so he

1221
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: was he was wandering, he was, Yeah, he was walking

1222
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 1: right through the woods first week in November. Our buddy Clay,

1223
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:37,800
Speaker 1: he's got a great story. It kind of shows one

1224
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 1: of the things that's cool about Clay is, uh, he

1225
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 1: was after a big giant buck in his neighborhood. And

1226
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: he lives in a you know, like it's not like

1227
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: big egg arias, right, little chunks here and there, and um,

1228
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 1: it's hard to keep track of a deer, right. Yeah.

1229
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: But anyways, he's aware of a big giant buck and

1230
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 1: find some of its sheds, and then he hears of

1231
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 1: a guy right, the got it and he was like, damn,

1232
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: you know, like the story's over right. Yeah, but but

1233
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:10,799
Speaker 1: Clay brought him and gave him the match and sheds

1234
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: a couple of sets of sheds. That's pretty dude. Yeah, yeah, Anya,

1235
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: your bud. That dude didn't give I was hoping i'd

1236
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: get him. You need to subtenly suggest he listened to

1237
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 1: this episode so he hear's that story. It's a little guilty. Yeah,

1238
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: I know. I've talked to him at the Indian Apple

1239
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: Show and he said there's too much people like wanting

1240
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: these sheds. So I was just like, you know, collectors

1241
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 1: and stuff. So I was just like, well, let me

1242
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,640
Speaker 1: just make some replicause of him or something. You know.

1243
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: Do you know the last time this buck was spotted

1244
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 1: by someone else, whether he's on trail camera, pers like,

1245
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 1: how how far he came to wind up and see

1246
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 1: how this is flowing? Yeah? So what was the question again? Yeah?

1247
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 1: How far did this buck like travel as of late

1248
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: before you killed him? Uh? Well, I mean so the

1249
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: only time that we have him confirmed at eight miles

1250
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 1: away is only December through February. That's the only time

1251
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 1: and then on But I thought he had him, he

1252
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: had him in his sights. No, no, no, this is

1253
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 1: who's adjacent to my right beside my property that I hate.

1254
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:22,600
Speaker 1: The neighbor had him, the neighbor adjacent to my the

1255
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: woods eye. And he didn't come tell you. Yeah, he hadn't.

1256
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: He didn't come to the next day after I killed it,

1257
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,759
Speaker 1: and he saw pictures and goes, that's him, your own neighbor,

1258
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: own neighbor. Now he's a cool guy though, But so

1259
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: when you see him, you're like, hey, what's going on, man,

1260
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 1: how's der hunting been? Well? I never really, we never

1261
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: were che Yeah that's the thing, you red, Harry. Yeah,

1262
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: but you there was no two in talk about any deer,

1263
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: Like nobody knew about it. If I was your neighbor,

1264
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: I had been like listeners, a big one forty. If

1265
01:13:54,000 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 1: you see him, yeah, I would shooting him and get

1266
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: out of the woods. Don't hesitate, get out of the

1267
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: woods and don't come back, because that's it. Yeah, So

1268
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,680
Speaker 1: why were you in this spot on this property? And

1269
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 1: like why did that buck want to be there? What

1270
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 1: was he doing? So going back to pictures, So after

1271
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 1: that next day brought some pictures over and so his

1272
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 1: first daylight was October sevente. That was his first daylight

1273
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: he got of him. And that's whenever I was like,

1274
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 1: I gotta start taking work off, you know, like it's

1275
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 1: him on a camera camera. Yes, what he saw in October.

1276
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: October sevente was his first daylight. So then so he's

1277
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: coming into the rusting to show up. Yeah, five and

1278
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 1: a half, you're always starting to show up in the daylight.

1279
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: And uh, so I come home, but you didn't know that.

1280
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 1: I did not know, So I just come home. I

1281
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,479
Speaker 1: always take off the last I don't do nothing the

1282
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: last week of October. In the first week in November,

1283
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: I go deer hunting. That's all. I don't write no songs.

1284
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: I do it from a tree stand. But just write

1285
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: him in your head. Yeah, I'll just get on my

1286
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: phone and write. But uh, you're not up there like

1287
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 1: in the tethered saddle. I don't have a sixth straight

1288
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: with very anything. But so he was getting picks of

1289
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 1: him constantly October and I shot him on November four.

1290
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 1: Pretty crazy, did he he never like had a close

1291
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 1: encounter or nope not the year before he did? Was

1292
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 1: that two yards was the only time he's saw him

1293
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: so he had been getting pitted. But like I said,

1294
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know about So I hunt that last week

1295
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 1: in November or last week. You're like a serious enough

1296
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: deer hunter where you're like, come the rut, I'm hitting

1297
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: two weeks hard. Oh yeah, yeah, I deer hunt all

1298
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: all the time. So, um, the reason why I was

1299
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: there was I had I was on day seven or eight,

1300
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: and I got four set stands on that property. So

1301
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:56,760
Speaker 1: my nephew killed. How far is this from your house? Okay? Yeah,

1302
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 1: so you don't need to go stay somewhere, you're just hunt,

1303
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 1: you're hunting at home. Yeah. So uh, I took my

1304
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: nephew out on Halloween because he killed his first dough

1305
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 1: in September, which was you season, first deer he ever killed,

1306
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: first time, first time ever going out, put twenty five

1307
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: grains of powder in a fifty cow and let him

1308
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 1: smoke on fifteen yards. So it's pretty cool. That's great. Yeah,

1309
01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: so the first time. So he's he's way ahead of

1310
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: way ahead of where I am. So uh, like I said,

1311
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: I've been hunting that whole week that last week of October. Uh,

1312
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: And on Halloween, I took Easton out again. So he

1313
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 1: kill his first buck, so he could have easily killed

1314
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,040
Speaker 1: this deer because this was before I shot him. He

1315
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 1: could have been he could have been the guy. So

1316
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,759
Speaker 1: I told him, like route when getting sand I said, uh, Eastern,

1317
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 1: like your your buck hunting today? First buck comes by

1318
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 1: and he, you know, he's saying he just went to

1319
01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: bash Pro for the first time how many weeks ago,

1320
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:48,040
Speaker 1: and he was like, hey, Dusty, uncle, Dusty, wouldn't be

1321
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,560
Speaker 1: crazy if we killed a big buck and got it

1322
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 1: in the bass Pro shop. Literally said that. I started

1323
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: laughing at him. I'm like, Eastern, I'm like, that's not

1324
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I said, But first deer comes through with

1325
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: some you know, horns on his head, you can shoot it.

1326
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,600
Speaker 1: And he killed a five pointer about nine o'clock that

1327
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: some more that morning, and I killed a dough right after.

1328
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: So what's the five poinner? Is that a two by

1329
01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: three or five five? Yeah? He had one on one side,

1330
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: two on the other, and then two little I'm the

1331
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:18,560
Speaker 1: blank by blank crowd here just more specific helps out folks. Yeah,

1332
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 1: I've switched to that, but come on, it was a

1333
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: little deer, but it was his first buck, so it's

1334
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: pretty cool, you know. So I'm buck hunting. So four

1335
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: days later, I'm going through these four set stands, you know,

1336
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: just depending on whend, how the weather is. And then

1337
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:40,320
Speaker 1: so you're being like you're being serious. Yeah, I mean

1338
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 1: you're playing the wind and thinking it's like I don't

1339
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: get two. It's like I go deer hunting, you know,

1340
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: it's just it's deer hunting using any cover sent I

1341
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 1: use heat wave, heat wave cover center calm. It's a

1342
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: calming scent, heats it up to like a hundred seven

1343
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,679
Speaker 1: degrees and disperses. What do you think about that mark?

1344
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: It's pretty wild. That's not my cup of tea. But

1345
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: teacher on, hold on, I thought that's my things. I

1346
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 1: had no idea I was there. I can't see it work,

1347
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:18,440
Speaker 1: but yeah, so uh but that evening I just decided,

1348
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 1: like I had been hitting those set stands pretty hard,

1349
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 1: you know, with Easton, and then I was hunting by

1350
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,880
Speaker 1: myself too. So I also got a climber that I

1351
01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 1: got eighth grade year when I bought my first bow.

1352
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 1: Still got it. It's the summit viper, and get a

1353
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 1: new climber. No I ain't got it? Oh yeah I did.

1354
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 1: Actually they didn't give me one they gave me to actually,

1355
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: so anyways, that evening, I just I hunted, tell about noon,

1356
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: uh tell lunch that morning on November four, one of

1357
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: my set stands same one where Easton killed the five

1358
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: pointer out of and uh so that hunt tel noon,

1359
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: went home, got lunch, came back. I didn't even know

1360
01:18:57,040 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: where I was gonna go. Times you get back up

1361
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 1: in there about three. It's at three o'clock because whenever

1362
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: I took the truck back and I took my climber

1363
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 1: with me, I didn't even know where I was gonna go.

1364
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: I just I'm gonna mix it up today. It was

1365
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:11,599
Speaker 1: about forty five. It was pretty warm day day in November,

1366
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm just gonna go to this

1367
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: west end of the farm, like I didn't even I

1368
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 1: hadn't been back there in a while. And all those

1369
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: other sets of the east side, right, Yes, all my

1370
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,439
Speaker 1: other ones are on the east side, so that I

1371
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: usually the west side of the farm to the deer.

1372
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: You know, I just let the property lines about a

1373
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 1: hundred yards from where I set up from uh property line.

1374
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, got up about three o'clock that evening, you know,

1375
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: put my sin up, got my climber up, saw it

1376
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: off two limbs, and within three and a half hours

1377
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 1: I killed the biggest deer in the USA. Didn't see

1378
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: I didn't see a deer all evening. Didn't see a

1379
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: deer all evening. And that was the first deer I seen.

1380
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 1: All right, So why are we through? The actual moment? Brody?

1381
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: Is your question ready to come? Right up? We're coming.

1382
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 1: You already asked it. I knew you would the rumors

1383
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 1: about the but like people, but I feel like you're

1384
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,160
Speaker 1: leaving a lot out for these two white tailed nerds

1385
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 1: over here. Like there's no like funnel oak flat, like

1386
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 1: oh yeah, hanging in the woods. No, so like I'm

1387
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 1: up on the oak flat. Um yeah, so uh there's

1388
01:20:28,439 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: the acorns were dropping. Oh yeah, what do you call

1389
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 1: those do? What? What do you call patch or out patch?

1390
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: We say, go up to the oak patch and you know?

1391
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,599
Speaker 1: Um so yeah, I got up three thirty whatever, didn't

1392
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: see a deer and it was about six thirty right,

1393
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking right whenever the sun hit her up. Tell

1394
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 1: me more about your setup. What do you mean what

1395
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 1: you're hunting? You're hunting, You're hunting in the oak grove.

1396
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: I got a creek running about and that's where I

1397
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 1: seen about seventy yards uh to my south or to

1398
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 1: my north, I mean, and then um, there's woods uh

1399
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,719
Speaker 1: all around I mean, and then about three yards back

1400
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,520
Speaker 1: is the cornfield. I mean, it's just a huge ass cornfield.

1401
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: Like I said, it's timber and crops. But just getting nervous.

1402
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: You ever climbed this tree in the past. Nope, this

1403
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: was the first time because I saw two limbs off

1404
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: going up like I had been around there before, but

1405
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: I never got up in this tree. Have you been

1406
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: up there that season? Huh? No, I hadn't been back

1407
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: here since. This story is is so it's like a

1408
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 1: like an archetype of a hunting story. There's so many

1409
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 1: that go just like this, where either a new hunter

1410
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 1: or someone like in your situation where you always hunt

1411
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: one area and the first time you go to the

1412
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 1: one spot, you never go to the big buck that

1413
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 1: big bucks like I'll tell you on they never go

1414
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: to exactly. So like there's there's people who say, like,

1415
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 1: how how come is it that like the new hunter

1416
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: that goes up for the first time ever shoots the

1417
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 1: big giant buck or the kid or whatever, and it's

1418
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: always because they would pick the place that all the

1419
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,719
Speaker 1: pros never go, or in this case, the one spot

1420
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 1: for whatever reason you didn't go, and that's where they be.

1421
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 1: He hangs out there and doesn't see people and treat

1422
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,560
Speaker 1: shooting arrows at them. They figured out, did you leave it?

1423
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: Was it? Like? Can you say you never? You left

1424
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: it for the deer? So like do you guys kind

1425
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 1: of treat it as the sanctuary, like it's off limits

1426
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: most of the time. I mean they're like, uh, one

1427
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 1: of our buddies, he goes back here and hunts it.

1428
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: But me, I just always just leave it over that

1429
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 1: way because it's pretty thick that on the west side,

1430
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 1: So I just always leave up for the deer and

1431
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: stay on the east side. And that's where most of

1432
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: the funnels aren't really but back there is that oak

1433
01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 1: flat and then the property line. So here's my yard.

1434
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 1: You can hunt over there more often. Now in the future,

1435
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,840
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to. I think I'm going to

1436
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 1: this season for sure, I'm gonna try it out. That

1437
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: east side's gonna get real good again a year or

1438
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,719
Speaker 1: two off and then go back into year two. Okay,

1439
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: with the last question, I'm gonna ask you in a

1440
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: little bit. Is um, you realize it's all downhill from here?

1441
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 1: Oh I know. Okay, so I'll ask you about that.

1442
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 1: So so give me the moment. Oh shoot, so I'm

1443
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 1: talking sitting there, you're like the song a second verse.

1444
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,759
Speaker 1: I actually did write a song that week, and uh

1445
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: it's called Country is a Good Thing. And uh so

1446
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 1: I was just sitting there on my phone, texting my girlfriend,

1447
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: texting my dad. You know, just you know, no deer,

1448
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: you've seen any deer? Nope? And I'm talking at dusk. Yeah,

1449
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: it's it's right as the freaking I'm talking right one.

1450
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: It's so crazy because right when the sun hit, like,

1451
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: I got a text and I'm pulling my phone out

1452
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 1: and he said any deer, And I'm about to text back,

1453
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: and right whenever back, ain't seeing a deer. And right

1454
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 1: as I'm about to text, I looked to my left

1455
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,200
Speaker 1: and I just see movement and all I saw was

1456
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: these big gass antlers facing me with his head down

1457
01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: and he put his head up and that's when I went,

1458
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's a moose. And after I've seen him,

1459
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, you're thinking, where's this deer gonna go?

1460
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,639
Speaker 1: Is he How far out is he? He's about seventy yards.

1461
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: First see him, and I'm just like, you know, I'm

1462
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,679
Speaker 1: blacking out. I'm just shaking like crazy, you know, I'd

1463
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: never I'm thinking sev in deer, like nobody's gonna believe this,

1464
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: and uh, he starts coming right to me in the No,

1465
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 1: he's just he's just walking through the woods. Man. It

1466
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,680
Speaker 1: was it was where he's just moving saplings on his

1467
01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 1: way by I mean it was crazy, yeah, and so

1468
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: no clue, had no idea. I had no idea, and

1469
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 1: you had good wind, a good wind, and some good

1470
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:30,840
Speaker 1: scent heat waves it so so anyways, um, I didn't

1471
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 1: even have time to range finding, so my range finders

1472
01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: in my pocket. But it's quick, like from when he

1473
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: put his head up to me going wow, this is

1474
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: the biggest deer I've ever seen in my life. He's

1475
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: coming right up the ridge and I mean it's saplings

1476
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 1: all over the place. So I'm just like, when do

1477
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 1: I When am I gonna shoot him? So I just

1478
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: whistled at him when he was maybe forty I was

1479
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 1: just guessing forty yards because it was a minute, minute

1480
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,880
Speaker 1: and a half, two minutes. I don't even know I

1481
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: blacked out, and uh I did, and I've whistled at

1482
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,600
Speaker 1: him and he looked at me. The whistle okay, that

1483
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 1: literally just a little whistle and he looks at me

1484
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: and I can't shoot him. I mean, I'm just sitting

1485
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: there with my crossbow and I can't. I got two

1486
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 1: saplings right in the boiler room and I'm about to

1487
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 1: just throw up, like I'm just like I can't shoot

1488
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 1: this deer. Like do I got shot him? Though? I

1489
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: can't do that, you know, like that's stupid. And uh,

1490
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 1: I had maybe a yard. I was just like, man,

1491
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 1: if he takes one step, I think I can sneak

1492
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:25,320
Speaker 1: one in there. And I let him take one more

1493
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 1: and I whistled and he took a second step instead

1494
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: of just that was in the trees. Then yeah he

1495
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 1: was so he knew where the sound was coming. Yeah

1496
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 1: he knew. And right whenever he took that second step,

1497
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,200
Speaker 1: I had a little sapling again, so I just had

1498
01:25:39,240 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 1: to go a hair to the left and just pulled

1499
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:45,800
Speaker 1: the trigger quick smoked him. He ran fifty sixty yards

1500
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,680
Speaker 1: straight west, stopped, looked around. All I could see was

1501
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 1: the rack behind him, you know, and I'm seeing his

1502
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,640
Speaker 1: as old man, that's the biggest. He looked, and uh,

1503
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 1: he stops about fifty sixty yards, looks around. I'm just

1504
01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 1: gonna go down, Go down, baby, And then he starts

1505
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: doing the dance, flicking his tail and I said, oh yeah,

1506
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: he's dropping and dropped fell back into the holler that

1507
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 1: it came from, and I just went, let's go. Just

1508
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 1: I put my heads up, shaking like crazy. Called my

1509
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 1: girlfriend mckayley, like I said, I was on day seven eight,

1510
01:26:15,479 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 1: So she's when you're gonna be home. You ain't gonna

1511
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 1: kill big deer, you know. I'm like, baby, I gotta

1512
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:22,360
Speaker 1: be out there to kill something bigger than my one

1513
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:23,960
Speaker 1: thirty four you And I was just trying to beat that.

1514
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: And when I sent her that picture, she was like,

1515
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:28,240
Speaker 1: oh my god. Well when I called her, I was like,

1516
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 1: you don't even understand, Like I just smoked a one

1517
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 1: sev in deer, and she's just fired up about it

1518
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: because even though she doesn't really know, you know, like

1519
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:37,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's the biggest deer that I've ever seen,

1520
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, And uh yeah. Then I called my dad

1521
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: right after and I said, Pops, you're gonna need to

1522
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 1: get her crew out here. I said, I'm still on

1523
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: the tree, and he said, now take your time, dust.

1524
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 1: He's like, I know you shook up and you're worked

1525
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: up about it, but just just wait to come down

1526
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:53,680
Speaker 1: till we get there, which I did, and I was

1527
01:26:53,720 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 1: already already up. You were, Yeah, he knew that I was.

1528
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I wanted to be safe, yeah, exactly,

1529
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 1: And so I waited for them. I didn't go see

1530
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 1: the deer. I just took all my stuff up to

1531
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 1: the field edge. Like I said, it's about some strong willpower.

1532
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 1: I saw him go down, so I knew. But I

1533
01:27:16,680 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 1: wanted my dad and everybody to be there when we

1534
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: got up, because I knew this was gonna be. I

1535
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: didn't think, you know, state record or anything like that,

1536
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 1: but I just knew it was gonna be probably the

1537
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 1: biggest deer that any of us have ever seen, or

1538
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: going to the biggest typical USA. Yeah, And he was

1539
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 1: just seventy yards from your tree standing you chose not

1540
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 1: to go. Look, he was fifty sixty yards and I

1541
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: watched him fall and he went down in the hall,

1542
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 1: and I was just like, and I knew, like, but

1543
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 1: I knew he was huge, but I didn't go look,

1544
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: I waited until uh he's one of the boys of

1545
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 1: Uh he's got three boys and hog farming. They all

1546
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: come out, everything come out of his mouth. And so

1547
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,719
Speaker 1: is gonna develop software that just finds names, Yeah, finds

1548
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: names in big Buck stories. And yeah, he'll he'll sit

1549
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:05,400
Speaker 1: back at home. Let I'll just do it. Ye. So yeah,

1550
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 1: we got up on him and we're all just like

1551
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: in shock. Really, you know, we're just looking around, like

1552
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 1: high five and then just like, well, what's he going

1553
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 1: to score? And I'm just thinking one eight, you know,

1554
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 1: and I'm and I said one five was like that

1555
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: was me pushing. I'm like, he's maybe five, and then

1556
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,840
Speaker 1: goes the prophet. Now he goes I'd say he's high

1557
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: one sixties. I said, I think he's a little bigger

1558
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 1: than that. Man. I said, give him some credit. But

1559
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 1: you know, we're just we're not guys that we don't

1560
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: put tape on deer. We don't if we're close to

1561
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 1: fifteen inches, we shoot him. It's just like, you know,

1562
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: that's just how it is. So with us trying to

1563
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 1: figure out how big this deer was was like, you know, whatever.

1564
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:48,800
Speaker 1: So I got him out there in the woods and

1565
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: took six of us to get him out. I was

1566
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 1: gonna ask, what was your body like? Was he just

1567
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 1: three hundred and is what we're He's probably two thirty

1568
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 1: field dress, so three hundred on hoof is what we

1569
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: were guessing. It was me and six other guys. Oh,

1570
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: it's we didn't. We were just guessing just from deer

1571
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,800
Speaker 1: we've killed prior, you know, um, just guessing them off that.

1572
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was. I had my shirt off by

1573
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: the time we got up to the field edge after

1574
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: dragging him, because I was just out of shape and

1575
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 1: dragon deer shows you how bad how to shape your arm.

1576
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, we got him in the truck and

1577
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 1: uh took him back to the house. And at this

1578
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: point I have started to send like snapchats, you know,

1579
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 1: to my buddies, and I said, boys like I killed

1580
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 1: A one eight and my buddy Blake and Byron Am

1581
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 1: I allowed to said their name, They're not they're they're

1582
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: just my friends, you know, they're just not friends. And

1583
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: they come up there like I said, yeah, we're gonna,

1584
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna skin this deer out. You know. We do

1585
01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 1: all our processing and stuff in the basement the house

1586
01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 1: and uh By, Buddy Blake said, put the knife down,

1587
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: do not touch that deer. He goes, I'm coming over.

1588
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 1: I'll be there in fifteen minutes to keep it out. Yeah,

1589
01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:59,719
Speaker 1: and we were gonna cut the backstraps out and everything,

1590
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 1: you know. And uh so he comes there and he goes,

1591
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: that is not that's a two deer. He goes, let

1592
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: me put a tape on it. Like he's never really

1593
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: he's not an official score. He knew enough to where

1594
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: where to put it and how to you know, And

1595
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 1: we got the does all my scoring for yeah, and

1596
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:20,880
Speaker 1: we got the number. And he goes, you're gonna need

1597
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,439
Speaker 1: to get this in a like a safe dude. I'm like, no, dude,

1598
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,559
Speaker 1: I'm just like no. Like he goes, You're gonna need

1599
01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 1: to get pictures, like professional pictures of this deer. And

1600
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,400
Speaker 1: I start laughing at him. I'm like, dude, I'm not

1601
01:30:32,479 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 1: calling enough a photographer to get this picture of me

1602
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 1: in this deer. Like I thought he was nuts. I

1603
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 1: thought he was nuts. He's like, I'm telling you, dude.

1604
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,160
Speaker 1: So I called my photographer that I used for like

1605
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 1: my music and stuff, and I was like, hey, you

1606
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: want to come take a picture that this was the

1607
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 1: next morning. I was like, hey, I killed this deer

1608
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 1: yesterday evening, you want to come take some pictures. My

1609
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 1: buddies say that this is gonna be a big deal,

1610
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:58,839
Speaker 1: and sure enough that's whenever. The next day was whenever,

1611
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 1: Um you called, Spencer called me. Yeah, Luke texted me,

1612
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,479
Speaker 1: and I said, that's not my world. Yeah, but I

1613
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 1: know who he ought to talk to. I guess I

1614
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 1: can kind of go into that night too after because

1615
01:31:14,680 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: Luke called me that once. I had said, like after

1616
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 1: we fun, yeah, so like after we knew kind of

1617
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 1: what we had. You know, me and my buddies and

1618
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,880
Speaker 1: my dad were just downstairs drinking beers like damn, this

1619
01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: is crazy, and we had put the words right out

1620
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: of my mouth. We had rolling rock that night, little

1621
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 1: bloody Mary there. I just keep the white pail, you know,

1622
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: white ale and um. So we're all just down there

1623
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 1: and I couldn't sleep at night after they all left,

1624
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: like I was just I kept getting up and going

1625
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 1: checking on him. You know. After my buddies are telling

1626
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 1: me like, dude, this is a big deal, like you're

1627
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:55,760
Speaker 1: gonna need to get this in a safe and I'm

1628
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 1: just like, shoot, I better like not go to sleep tonight,

1629
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:00,600
Speaker 1: like what if these pictures get out? And I didn't know.

1630
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 1: And so about two o'clock at morning, I get that.

1631
01:32:06,960 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 1: That night is whenever I tweeted out like it was

1632
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 1: just a tweet, like I couldn't say. I was like,

1633
01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: I think I killed the biggest deer in Indiana, like

1634
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 1: Indiana state record. And so I put no pictures, no nothing,

1635
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: and uh, Ray, I was telling you about Ray Fulture

1636
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 1: who he wrote like when it rains at poors and stuff.

1637
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,600
Speaker 1: I always torn with Luke and uh been buddies for

1638
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: a while now. And he texts me, he goes, he goes,

1639
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,160
Speaker 1: oh huff. He calls me all he goes, oh huff.

1640
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 1: Now let me see this deer that you tweeted about.

1641
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 1: So I sent him two pictures. Right after I sent him.

1642
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm in bed and I get a call from Luke.

1643
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 1: Luke Combs. I'm like, shoot, go out into the kitchen.

1644
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's up, Luke? How you doing? Man? It's

1645
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 1: been a while, you know, And he goes, Bubbs. He

1646
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 1: calls me Bubbs because I was always the youngest, you know,

1647
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 1: kid on whenever we go on tour and stuff. I

1648
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:53,400
Speaker 1: was the opener, and I was always twenty one, twenty two,

1649
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, I was just the the young guy in

1650
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:58,200
Speaker 1: the group. And he goes, Bubbs, you don't even realize

1651
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 1: what you did, did you. I said, oh, man, it's

1652
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 1: it's huge. Man. This is gonna be a wall hanger. Man.

1653
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 1: He goes, no, he goes, don't do anything. But yeah,

1654
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 1: he goes, don't do anything. He goes, I'm gonna call

1655
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 1: somebody for you. And I said, all right, cool man,

1656
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. And then he called me into marrow

1657
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 1: or the next day, and then Spencer called me right after,

1658
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 1: and then that's kind of how the story launched. I

1659
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 1: guess crazy. Yeah, I don't. I don't want to like

1660
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 1: be a douche bag, but I'm uniquely I'm uniquely suited

1661
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:33,600
Speaker 1: to hell somebody dustin in this situation. I knew. And

1662
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:37,040
Speaker 1: when I suggested guys walk through, I suggested Spencer because

1663
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 1: Spencer one pays attention to this, and Spencer knows what

1664
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 1: happens when people shoot big deer and like, what the

1665
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 1: steps are. I used to work for North America. I

1666
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 1: told Spencer. I told Spencer, did I warn you? I

1667
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 1: think I warned you. I warned not to exploit him.

1668
01:33:56,280 --> 01:34:00,360
Speaker 1: Did I Uh, yeah, I think he did see that.

1669
01:34:00,439 --> 01:34:06,639
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that was in just like big big big Buck,

1670
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 1: Big big Bug, did Spencer, do You're right or do

1671
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:17,000
Speaker 1: you're wrong? Okay, uniquely suited to help someone like dust

1672
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:18,960
Speaker 1: in this situation. I used to work in North American

1673
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 1: White Tail, who is like the proprietor of of big

1674
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,840
Speaker 1: Buck stories. They want to buy them for their cover

1675
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 1: of their magazine. I've covered like world record deer in

1676
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: the past. I've talked to bass pro, Cabela's, some of

1677
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:34,479
Speaker 1: the folks that have killed some of the biggest deer

1678
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 1: in the world about how they went through the selling

1679
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:41,479
Speaker 1: process of their antlers to to profit off of these situations. Um.

1680
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,599
Speaker 1: And we've also covered like a lot of big box

1681
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:47,640
Speaker 1: on our website and other places, and like sort of

1682
01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 1: the fallout from that, whether it's like accusations of poaching

1683
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 1: or just like the all the negative things they can

1684
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 1: come from that. So the next day Dustin and I

1685
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:58,679
Speaker 1: probably spend like an hour on the phone talking about

1686
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 1: like here's here's the next step, uh, to like set

1687
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 1: you up to benefit and to get this thing legitimized. Yeah,

1688
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 1: the fat and SKINNYO it is you shoot a big

1689
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 1: old buck. Call Spencer, if you got a world record buck,

1690
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,479
Speaker 1: hit me up. I'd love to love to coached me

1691
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 1: through it. He did too, Man, Uh, you sold the deer.

1692
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 1: I did well? What was one of the Spencer spent

1693
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 1: an hour with him in game, the whole thing. But

1694
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:27,880
Speaker 1: we're not gonna hear any of that. Like, give me

1695
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,600
Speaker 1: one main takeaway. What was like the one thing that

1696
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:32,640
Speaker 1: Spencer said in that hour where you're like, man, that

1697
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 1: was really a hot tip for me. Well, it's just

1698
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about the business side of deer hunt.

1699
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 1: I just didn't even know there was deer shows or anything,

1700
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 1: like you go take a deer to a deer show

1701
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:44,040
Speaker 1: or whatever. So like he was coaching me through like

1702
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:47,559
Speaker 1: the magazines and interviews and this is you know what

1703
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:49,640
Speaker 1: these go for? What a cover of a magazine? What

1704
01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:51,759
Speaker 1: this is? So I didn't know anything about that stuff.

1705
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 1: How long did it take for taxidermists started calling you? Oh? Shoot,

1706
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:58,240
Speaker 1: it was it was the next day once I posted it.

1707
01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 1: Ye did Uh did Spencer ballpark for you? What someone

1708
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,840
Speaker 1: might pay for that rack was? How close was he

1709
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: he was right on it? Dead nuts? Yeah? Jeez, man,

1710
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:11,519
Speaker 1: I can't. Now I realized you you probably can't. You

1711
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 1: have like a non disclosure. You can't tell us? Can

1712
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:23,960
Speaker 1: you tell us out? So when they when the guys

1713
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:25,599
Speaker 1: bought it from you, I don't know. I honestly don't

1714
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:27,599
Speaker 1: know the number. When the guys bought it from you.

1715
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 1: You signed an n d A. I signed a bill

1716
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 1: of sale. No, but that's not an n d A. Yeah,

1717
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 1: but I we keep it. It's between me and him

1718
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 1: as an undisclosed like number. It was. We agreed, Yeah,

1719
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 1: we agreed to not talk about want I asked you

1720
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,439
Speaker 1: what you did with your money? It's in a very

1721
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:53,600
Speaker 1: safe location. Remember that there was one record holder. I

1722
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 1: talked to, Luke Brewster, I think has still the non

1723
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 1: typical world record white Tail. He had said he was

1724
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:02,600
Speaker 1: offered hundred thousand dollars and he turned it down. He

1725
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 1: wouldn't tell me who it was. I asked it like,

1726
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 1: could I have three guesses? And I got it on

1727
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:09,160
Speaker 1: the second guess who the offer was from? Um? But

1728
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:11,240
Speaker 1: once the word it got out that he wasn't going

1729
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:15,719
Speaker 1: to accept a hundred thousand dollars, nobody really bothered him anymore. Okay,

1730
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 1: So all right, did I put an end of the

1731
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: bidding war. Yeah, there was another sell that huge moose

1732
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:23,480
Speaker 1: for I want to say it was sixties, I remember

1733
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:27,040
Speaker 1: forty or sixty. There was another guy who killed I

1734
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:30,240
Speaker 1: think it was the Louisiana or the Mississippi State record,

1735
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:33,160
Speaker 1: non typical, who had said he couldn't tell me again

1736
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: the details of what had exactly sold for, but he

1737
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 1: said that he had an offer of thirty thirty thousand

1738
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 1: dollars he was about to accept, but somebody came in

1739
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 1: at the last minute and made a better offer that

1740
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 1: included more money plus more replicas that he ended up taking.

1741
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 1: So those Dustin can't tell us what the number would be,

1742
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:52,919
Speaker 1: but something because you can you haven't use your imagination.

1743
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:57,479
Speaker 1: Did you get a replica? How I can get I'm

1744
01:37:57,479 --> 01:38:01,520
Speaker 1: gonna get the property owner one horses cost to get one.

1745
01:38:02,200 --> 01:38:03,799
Speaker 1: I was gonna say we should get one for the studio.

1746
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, we kind of blew all our money

1747
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:17,719
Speaker 1: on this meat tester we had left that You're into

1748
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 1: and Dustin's into. We definitely need to have a replica

1749
01:38:21,120 --> 01:38:25,559
Speaker 1: of the Oh you know what we did buy that's

1750
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 1: like this Actually, did you guys hear about this yet?

1751
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 1: At auction? What don't you pay for it? Spencer at auction,

1752
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 1: we bought an eight foot punt gun. Dollars Can you fire?

1753
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:43,760
Speaker 1: Make a lot of money off this punt gun? Can

1754
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,240
Speaker 1: we fire it? Oh? Yeah, that's the whole things about

1755
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 1: when's that party happened? Eight eight foot long investment. He

1756
01:38:52,439 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 1: calculated it out to be a two gauge. It's estimated

1757
01:38:57,000 --> 01:39:01,240
Speaker 1: that throws about one pound throws a pound leg for reference,

1758
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 1: that turkey load is like two ounces max. Eight foot

1759
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 1: long punt gun. You pull a string to make it

1760
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:10,080
Speaker 1: go off. It just looks like a shotgun with a

1761
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:14,599
Speaker 1: never ending barrel on it. Twenty hy dollars at auction

1762
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 1: and H and H we're gonna make the world's best

1763
01:39:18,080 --> 01:39:22,320
Speaker 1: performing YouTube video of all time. You don't remember Gallaghy

1764
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 1: how used to like another eighties reference from for your

1765
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 1: Young Wimer Snappers or used to be a comedian. He

1766
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 1: had two sticks. He liked a toy with the English language.

1767
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 1: So he would be like, Um, there is t h

1768
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:47,800
Speaker 1: E I R, but there is th h e r E.

1769
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 1: What gives That was like some of Gallagher's humor, and

1770
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 1: then he'd do that line of humor about why things

1771
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 1: are spelled the way they're spelled. And then he get

1772
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:02,720
Speaker 1: out a big sledgehammer and he would smash fruit. Watermelons

1773
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 1: were big for him. That was like when you went

1774
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 1: to see gallaghery, that's what you got, you smashing watermelons.

1775
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 1: He'd smashed anything you think of. I bet you Mark

1776
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:13,479
Speaker 1: and uh Spencer have no idea who you're talking about.

1777
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 1: The crowd Sometimes you would put on a piano's exciting.

1778
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:22,200
Speaker 1: People in the know would bring plastic sheeting at a

1779
01:40:22,200 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 1: Gallagher concert. Okay. The reason I bring up Gallagher is

1780
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:28,960
Speaker 1: me and Spencer are gonna take the shooting all man

1781
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: or stuff with our punt gun. I'm ready to see that.

1782
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 1: I won the auction about ten days ago. We hope

1783
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 1: it's going to be here in June. So Dust and

1784
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:41,720
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, uh yeah, put a button on

1785
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:46,080
Speaker 1: talking about that does a does a world record, but

1786
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,519
Speaker 1: taste better than a run of the mill one thirty.

1787
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 1: What happened all the meat? I've ate about four or

1788
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:54,519
Speaker 1: five packages of it of the backstrap? Can you send

1789
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:58,280
Speaker 1: us a chunk for a meat tester? Hey, I'm actually

1790
01:40:58,280 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 1: gonna do some No, I'm actually gonna do some jerky.

1791
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:05,160
Speaker 1: How about jerky or do you guys wants a little chunk,

1792
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 1: when your little chunk of meat hole muscle, and we'll

1793
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 1: tell you what, We'll tenderness test it. And so then

1794
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 1: when you're telling people the stats, let's do it'll be

1795
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:17,639
Speaker 1: like it scored this tenderness test of four point three

1796
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 1: best tasted world class out there. I'm getting backed up

1797
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:28,639
Speaker 1: on questions right now. I'm just listening to figure out.

1798
01:41:29,479 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 1: So you've eating four or five packages? Are you savoring it?

1799
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,360
Speaker 1: Are you valuing that meat as much as the guy

1800
01:41:35,400 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 1: that bought the antlers from you is valuing those that bone? Well,

1801
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just whenever mckayley, my girlfriend wants to

1802
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 1: if you're when you send Steve his little bitty chunk,

1803
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:57,679
Speaker 1: if you want to send me like I would very

1804
01:41:57,760 --> 01:41:59,400
Speaker 1: pot luck in the world because it'd be a great

1805
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 1: way to bring it. Well, you know that meatball you're eating,

1806
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:05,280
Speaker 1: how do you think about that? Well, the world record.

1807
01:42:05,960 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 1: You might be interested in the fact that's a world record.

1808
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 1: That would be pretty cool to uh, you know, share

1809
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:15,080
Speaker 1: that with some friends. I have a little party. We

1810
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 1: had the world record book. We had friends giving UH

1811
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 1: November thirty after I killed the deer and UH ended

1812
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 1: up taking taking it over there and frying it up,

1813
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:27,680
Speaker 1: having a poker, having a poker, and I was like,

1814
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:31,639
Speaker 1: you boys bearter getting your snapchatsy that you class white

1815
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: tail here. The one thing we talked about, Dustin was

1816
01:42:35,439 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 1: that like, this is gonna happen regardless of what your

1817
01:42:39,479 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 1: next steps are, that folks are gonna call you out.

1818
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:43,759
Speaker 1: Is like you poached it, this was a high fence

1819
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 1: deer whatever, and imagine that happened either way. But I

1820
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 1: was like, you should really get a game warden over

1821
01:42:47,800 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 1: there to just like take a picture of you in

1822
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,840
Speaker 1: the buck together and the game warden standing there and

1823
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:53,479
Speaker 1: that'll like shut some of this down and see the

1824
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:56,400
Speaker 1: gut pile whatever. Yeah, So like and that's what I did.

1825
01:42:56,479 --> 01:42:58,200
Speaker 1: I called d n R and I talked to the

1826
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,160
Speaker 1: lady and she was just like like the disc at

1827
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 1: true or whatever. She was just like I said, I

1828
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 1: killed the like possibly state record in Indiana, And she

1829
01:43:06,160 --> 01:43:08,439
Speaker 1: was just like I had no idea what I was

1830
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 1: talking about. I'm like, who do I need to talk to? Yeah,

1831
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 1: and I'm just like who do I need to get

1832
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 1: somebody here to check this deer out? So like, but anyways,

1833
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 1: like nobody ever came. So then like three or four days,

1834
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:21,479
Speaker 1: five days later, I'm getting calls from D n R. Well,

1835
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm back in nash wondering like where I killed this deer?

1836
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 1: Or like they were now they're following up, they're starting,

1837
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 1: they're starting to get calls from people all over the place.

1838
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 1: Really yeah, oh he posted it, he Bobby shot it

1839
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 1: with a rifle, blah blah blah blah blah. And why

1840
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,599
Speaker 1: just people talking. It's unreal, man. It doesn't matter whether

1841
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 1: the story because it's impossible. It's really impossible to to

1842
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:51,839
Speaker 1: to which to me it was impossible too, but it happened.

1843
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:53,639
Speaker 1: And it's just like you know what Pat Durkin says,

1844
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 1: big bucks make people stupid. Yep, that's true. Oh he

1845
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 1: doesn't say haters gonna hate haters. I would love to hear.

1846
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 1: I think you're confusing Pat Durkin with a young lady

1847
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:09,040
Speaker 1: who sings pop music. Yeah, go on, So I'm I'm

1848
01:44:09,080 --> 01:44:12,200
Speaker 1: down in Nashville, you know, writing songs that week, and

1849
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 1: uh get a call, hey when can you be you know,

1850
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 1: when you can you be back up here to show

1851
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:18,360
Speaker 1: us where you killed this deer? I said, Well, I'm

1852
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:20,639
Speaker 1: not going to be home for another to three days

1853
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:24,320
Speaker 1: or so. Um. So they went out there. I told him,

1854
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 1: gave him the property owner's number, and I went out there,

1855
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:30,800
Speaker 1: found my gut pile, found my tree. They were texting me.

1856
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 1: I had the DNR number, and he said, is it

1857
01:44:34,040 --> 01:44:36,400
Speaker 1: was it? This tree? Two limbs cut off about twenty

1858
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 1: ft up. I said, that's it. I said, gut pole

1859
01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:41,840
Speaker 1: should be about you know, sixty yards in that haller.

1860
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 1: And they found it. What was left of it, you know,

1861
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: there was coyotes had got to it, but what was

1862
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:50,120
Speaker 1: left of the gut pile. And there was a week

1863
01:44:50,240 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 1: or two that went by, you know, I thought everything

1864
01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 1: was squashed. Like okay, cool, they're still getting more phone calls. Well,

1865
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 1: they wanted to come have another sit down. So I said, well,

1866
01:44:58,080 --> 01:44:59,760
Speaker 1: come over to the house and sit down on couch.

1867
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm some coffee. I'll tell you about the whole hunt

1868
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 1: if you want to. You know, hear about it. So

1869
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 1: they so they're just getting calls some people who are

1870
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 1: like it has to be yeah, that's what they were saying.

1871
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 1: They're like, we just keep getting calls like man, and

1872
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 1: we just want to I said, well, I said, here's

1873
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,200
Speaker 1: the antlers, like showed him the antlers, and I told

1874
01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 1: him everything. They want to see the arrow or anything

1875
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 1: like that. They talk to the landowner. Yeah, talked to

1876
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:28,000
Speaker 1: the landowner. Uh yeah. And it was just like the

1877
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 1: thing about it was is people think that I live

1878
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:36,759
Speaker 1: in Nashville, so it was a residency thing. But I

1879
01:45:36,760 --> 01:45:39,840
Speaker 1: I'm an Indiana resident. I just travel for work, you know,

1880
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 1: to write songs down and record songs. So like there

1881
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 1: was this huge thing of like I said, well, you

1882
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:46,920
Speaker 1: can look at my bank statements. I said, I've been

1883
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 1: living here. I said, I moved away at nineteen, but

1884
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 1: I moved back and now I just traveled back and forth.

1885
01:45:51,960 --> 01:45:54,360
Speaker 1: I said, but the past five six years I've been

1886
01:45:54,640 --> 01:45:58,640
Speaker 1: you know here, you know. So yeah, it's but we

1887
01:45:58,680 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 1: finally squashed it. We all took pictures together and so yeah,

1888
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 1: so here's what I wonder about situations like yours and

1889
01:46:06,240 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 1: other people have gone through this. You shoot this this

1890
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:13,559
Speaker 1: world class, dear. You never really this is never something

1891
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 1: you were trying to do, right, You just want to

1892
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 1: be a deer hunter. But now you you stumble into

1893
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:21,680
Speaker 1: this world class dear. Now you're dealing with d n R,

1894
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 1: You're dealing with allegations approaching you're dealing with the business side.

1895
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, people are offering your money for

1896
01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 1: the deer. People are inviting you too shows, and now

1897
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 1: you're traveling all over the country and you're talking to

1898
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 1: a thousand people and everyone wants a piec of You're

1899
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:37,640
Speaker 1: glad it happened? Like, are you okay with this? Do

1900
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 1: you like this? Or has it been? Like? I got

1901
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 1: more in a bargain for I've prayed for a long time,

1902
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 1: uh for music to you know, I just needed a break.

1903
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 1: You know, I had three d dollars in my bank

1904
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:52,240
Speaker 1: account when I shot this thing. So it has completely

1905
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:56,080
Speaker 1: changed my life in a the best way ever. It's

1906
01:46:56,120 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: crazy nice, that's awesome. Uh Uh remember how I told

1907
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 1: you I was gonna ask you about Do you like

1908
01:47:04,240 --> 01:47:06,679
Speaker 1: it's all downhill from here? Yeah? I mean I'm buck hunting.

1909
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:10,439
Speaker 1: So now have you redefined a shooter? Buck? I'm going

1910
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 1: back to one thirty four if I can beat my

1911
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:17,800
Speaker 1: one thirty four and yeah, it's just like and if

1912
01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:20,679
Speaker 1: I can maybe get lucky enough to work my weptope,

1913
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 1: one forty one sixty's going back to November. Yeah, I'm

1914
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:28,599
Speaker 1: not even gonna that's just most the reset button. Yeah,

1915
01:47:28,640 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 1: it's just the reset I'm and my things like it's awesome,

1916
01:47:32,400 --> 01:47:34,519
Speaker 1: but it's like I have I get just the joy

1917
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 1: out of shooting a dough, you know, or I just

1918
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 1: love deer hunting. I love eating deer, so it's great man. Yep. Um,

1919
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,720
Speaker 1: your girlfriends stayed with you through this whole thing. Yep, yep,

1920
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:50,160
Speaker 1: she's yeah. Do you get you get approached by women

1921
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 1: who just want to be closer, Like if you're like

1922
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 1: in prison, women want to write your letters just because

1923
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 1: you're in jail. No, no antler chasers. Thank god, you

1924
01:47:59,120 --> 01:48:00,840
Speaker 1: kind of answered my whash, So I'm gonna ask you

1925
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 1: anyways in case you want to add to it, because

1926
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 1: you said you had three hundred bucks in your bank account,

1927
01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 1: which would mean that makes the decision to sell pretty easy.

1928
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 1: But it's still but you know, the USA world record,

1929
01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 1: So was it easy? That was? It took me two

1930
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:22,479
Speaker 1: months after talking with Spencer and really trying to figure

1931
01:48:22,479 --> 01:48:25,240
Speaker 1: out like what my best option was, you know, and

1932
01:48:25,240 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 1: I'm getting I had two offers and me and him

1933
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 1: were talking about bass Pro and like I was waiting

1934
01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 1: for them, but they never called. I had contacted them,

1935
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 1: and I was just trying to figure out if there

1936
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:37,439
Speaker 1: was more people would be interested, but I only had two. Well,

1937
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 1: then the one guy he made a real good offer

1938
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:42,160
Speaker 1: and was like come see me. And uh I was

1939
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,320
Speaker 1: over there for like eight or nine hours, just bullshit

1940
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 1: and and you know, just picking guitar. We were just

1941
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:49,439
Speaker 1: you know, and then he's a guitar player. He had

1942
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:54,240
Speaker 1: like three or four guitars only not only monster white tails.

1943
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:56,439
Speaker 1: I mean he had guitars, guns, everything over there. I

1944
01:48:56,439 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 1: mean it was awesome, Ted new it. Ted. What I

1945
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:12,360
Speaker 1: like about you calling him moose? Right afterwards was when

1946
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 1: the hole in the hornbuck was killed, like back in

1947
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 1: Y was killed by a train and some railroad workers

1948
01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:21,360
Speaker 1: had found the deer who had no like familiarity with

1949
01:49:21,400 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 1: hunting or really wild life in general, and they actually

1950
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:26,280
Speaker 1: argued about whether it was a moose or a white

1951
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:31,320
Speaker 1: tail at the time. That's that's crazy. Wow, Yeah, like

1952
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 1: that was my first thought whenever I first saw him.

1953
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 1: He put his head up. I just go, moose, Holy shit, moose,

1954
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 1: this is a moose? Like what is a moose doing?

1955
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 1: Indicator County, Indiana? You know, I just like what this

1956
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:48,280
Speaker 1: is a hog farm? You know what? Hell man? So yeah,

1957
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 1: are you ready to play song for us. Yeah, I

1958
01:49:50,360 --> 01:49:52,360
Speaker 1: might have to tune it back up, though it's probably

1959
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:57,200
Speaker 1: got out of tune. So Hayden's you don't travel with

1960
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:59,400
Speaker 1: the guitar, Paul, you do? I't have a guitar over

1961
01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:03,720
Speaker 1: one shoulder, that dear rack. Why, here's why. Luke gave

1962
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:07,680
Speaker 1: me that guitar, which the one I got Taylor. He

1963
01:50:07,720 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 1: gave it was his first show guitar and I've had

1964
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:12,000
Speaker 1: it for about five six years now. You don't like

1965
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 1: travel with it? I don't know. It's I'm putting it

1966
01:50:14,560 --> 01:50:17,240
Speaker 1: up in it's going in a glass case on the wall.

1967
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:22,040
Speaker 1: I don't want I would like to get a copy

1968
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 1: of the replica that dear head, dear handler. Should they

1969
01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 1: make those ones just on a school cap, like a

1970
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 1: fake school cap. It's just skull captain then, so that's

1971
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:33,400
Speaker 1: just what the antler's cost. And then whatever the taxidermy

1972
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:36,160
Speaker 1: and stuff is. If folks, did you keep the real

1973
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 1: cape or you lost the real got the real cape

1974
01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:39,559
Speaker 1: that was in the deal. I said, I want to

1975
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:41,840
Speaker 1: have the real cape, so I got to keep it.

1976
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 1: Who are you gonna have stuff the deer I had?

1977
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 1: It's already done, Yeah, Charlie Watson, North Vernon, Indiana. You

1978
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 1: should have had John Hayes doing well. This guy was

1979
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 1: thirty minutes down the road. This guy's thirty hours exactly exactly.

1980
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 1: If folks want to see the buck, I imagine you're

1981
01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:00,160
Speaker 1: gonna be traveling with this thing. It's some trade was

1982
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 1: coming up this year. Do you know, like what stops

1983
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:05,599
Speaker 1: you gonna be making? Yeah, so, uh, we're in I'm

1984
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:08,960
Speaker 1: actually doing Smoky Mountain Knife Works. Gotta show there on

1985
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 1: July nine from eleven four, playing for like forty five minutes,

1986
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 1: then just showing the deer off, bringing your two passions together.

1987
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:18,600
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing. That's when I was talking like

1988
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 1: deer hunting into a deer business. It's just crazy that

1989
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 1: goes hand in hand country music and deer hunting. So

1990
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna start doing, is you know, bring guitar,

1991
01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:29,519
Speaker 1: play forty five minutes to show the deer off and

1992
01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:35,720
Speaker 1: tell the story. July nine, Um August, we're in uh

1993
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 1: where's that at Kansas City? And then I'm in Bloomington,

1994
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:43,559
Speaker 1: Illinois on the August, and then we're working on September, October,

1995
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:47,800
Speaker 1: November shows and then you get back in tree stand Oh,

1996
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 1: that's what I told him. I said, I said, I

1997
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:54,280
Speaker 1: got at least have some time for Buck, because you

1998
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: know that's right from And I only killed two deer

1999
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 1: last year us like kill three or four years. So

2000
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm running along on me. You know, I'm saving that,

2001
01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:09,720
Speaker 1: I'm saving moves, so I don't always have a little bit, man,

2002
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 1: I'd always have a little bit. The next day, Um,

2003
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 1: before you and I talked, Luke Combs was making the

2004
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:17,280
Speaker 1: introduction and one of the things he said was that

2005
01:52:18,479 --> 01:52:20,360
Speaker 1: he's like, this is gonna change his life and it

2006
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 1: couldn't have happened to a better dude. And he was

2007
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 1: right like that. That was so damn cool to hear

2008
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 1: that story. How you're not me or Mark Kenyon killing

2009
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 1: that buck? Yeah, man, I just it's crazy. And he

2010
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 1: knew that it was gonna help me, Like that's why

2011
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:33,599
Speaker 1: he called, you know, texted you, and you know we've

2012
01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:37,400
Speaker 1: been friends for a long time, and um, just I've

2013
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 1: been praying for something in music to what in the hey,

2014
01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:42,719
Speaker 1: you know, like, and sure enough a deer walks through

2015
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:44,840
Speaker 1: and I shoot it at forty yards and now I

2016
01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:47,639
Speaker 1: can do the deer and the music, you know, hand

2017
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:51,400
Speaker 1: in hand. It's just it's it's it's god man, it's

2018
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:54,720
Speaker 1: just how it is. Amen to that. Play us a

2019
01:52:54,760 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 1: song you love? So can I tune it first? H

2020
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:06,640
Speaker 1: Are we doing one song? One song? Yeah? Stay for

2021
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 1: our trip show. Yeah, I'll just play that fishing song.

2022
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:14,200
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's great. Just it goes good with the

2023
01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 1: meat eater. You know. I should be fishing somewhere on

2024
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:32,040
Speaker 1: a boat, floating sun tine, cold cane, chilling, thrilling in

2025
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:37,160
Speaker 1: a five pounds large mouth, good time, grinning. Yeah, I

2026
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:41,759
Speaker 1: should be fishing. Hell. I should be in a deer stain,

2027
01:53:43,680 --> 01:53:46,760
Speaker 1: sipping coffee from a cup, watching the woods wick up,

2028
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 1: spitting red and maine, waiting on a big buck slip

2029
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:56,680
Speaker 1: up thirty thirty in my hands. I should be in

2030
01:53:56,760 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 1: a dear stand huh, in my way from a severy

2031
01:54:02,280 --> 01:54:06,320
Speaker 1: day right race. Hate this backed up traffic far from

2032
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 1: the skyline, night lights, concrete high rise makes it hard

2033
01:54:10,240 --> 01:54:12,840
Speaker 1: to find the stars, catch the sunset. WHI shh is

2034
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:16,599
Speaker 1: down a back row, back home, sitting on the best

2035
01:54:16,720 --> 01:54:20,599
Speaker 1: damn honey hoole. I know, shouldn't be caught up in

2036
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 1: this fast life city living man. I should be fishing. Yeah,

2037
01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 1: I should be way out without a warrior care in

2038
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:41,480
Speaker 1: the world, instead of staying still stuck heads with some

2039
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:44,440
Speaker 1: dude in a suit honking in my rear view. I

2040
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:48,080
Speaker 1: could use a camel line beer. Gotta get out of here,

2041
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:54,000
Speaker 1: A hundred my way from a severy day red race.

2042
01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:58,720
Speaker 1: Hate this backed up traffic far from the skyline night lights,

2043
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:01,800
Speaker 1: concrete higher rise makes it hard to find him. Stars,

2044
01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 1: catch your sun, said with shots down a back rode,

2045
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:09,040
Speaker 1: back home, sitting on the best damn honeyhole. I know.

2046
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:15,560
Speaker 1: Shouldn't be caught up in this fast live city living man,

2047
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 1: I should be fishing. Man, I should be fishing. I

2048
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 1: should be taking it slow, taking it in with a

2049
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 1: west wind blowing just right, A hunting my way from

2050
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 1: a seven day rat race. Hate this backed up traffic

2051
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:46,960
Speaker 1: far from these skyline night lights, concrete high rise makes

2052
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 1: it hard to find them. Stars, catch your sun, said

2053
01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 1: with shots down a back rope, back home, sitting on

2054
01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:57,120
Speaker 1: the best damn honey hoole. I know. Shouldn't be caught

2055
01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 1: up in this fast live city man, I should be fishing, Man,

2056
01:56:08,520 --> 01:56:20,560
Speaker 1: I should be fishing. Song of Regret. I wrote that

2057
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 1: song about living in Nashville, Tennessee. Then you moved back,

2058
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 1: and I moved back, and then I wrote a song

2059
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 1: about it. Have you gone fishing more? Yes? Good? Oh yeah,

2060
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna prioritize fishing a lot more these days. All right, man,

2061
01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:36,800
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on cool. I appreciate you all having

2062
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:39,880
Speaker 1: me Dustin sticking around for Trivia, which we have two

2063
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:42,680
Speaker 1: big announcements coming up on, so please tune into Wednesday's

2064
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 1: episode of Trivia with Dustin Wednesday. Dustin Hoff, owner of

2065
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 1: the former owner of the shooter of the Hunter that

2066
01:56:52,240 --> 01:57:16,000
Speaker 1: killed the Huffbug. Thanks everybody. Oh yeah, I appreciate that. Guys,