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Speaker 1: For Great Time by Steve Tasper, Goods Times, Dowst Time

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Speaker 1: after Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown here in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live, coming at you till three o'clock. We

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Speaker 1: are so happy to be back on the air with

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Speaker 1: you today. We've got a lot to talk about. We've

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Speaker 1: got a great guest coming on at the two o'clock hour,

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Speaker 1: David Baker of the Hall of Fame Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. By the way, yesterday was the first time

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Speaker 1: they were open in three months. Good for them. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have David Baker on to talk about that. We

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Speaker 1: also have some stuff to talk about about a new

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill who was in town yesterday. I guess we

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Speaker 1: can start with that Brownie about Josh Norman being in town.

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Speaker 1: And but first of all, how are you doing. You

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Speaker 1: have a good night last night? Did you hear the

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Speaker 1: storm blow through? Uh? Yeah, battening down the hatches at

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Speaker 1: about eleven ish where you know you're pulling patio for

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Speaker 1: your neighbor's yard. And uh, it's just it was a bat.

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Speaker 1: It's all hands on deck, you know, yeh, tie it

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Speaker 1: all down and hope it's all there in the morning. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this storm was I don't know if you're describing it.

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Speaker 1: it was gone. It didn't last long, but man, oh man,

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Speaker 1: it was intense, right. I mean that's the way I saw, right.

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Speaker 1: You always have to always have to pull the flag in, right,

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Speaker 1: We've got cushions on our patio furniture. Yeah, So I

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Speaker 1: mean it hit hard. I was like a fire alarm.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, fire drilling, great school. You know.

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Speaker 1: I don't do this usually. I'm not that kind of guy,

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Speaker 1: but I was. You know, it was one of those

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Speaker 1: And I turned on an old Bills game right and

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. I'm watching it on the TV, and all

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Speaker 1: of this sudden, the whole house is rattling. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, And man, oh man, it was. I was like, wow,

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Speaker 1: that's a bad one. And you knew right away it

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Speaker 1: It was. It was a really intense storm that when

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Speaker 1: going like that, that's when the rain hits your house

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Speaker 1: in like sheets. Yeah, and it's just it's like a

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Speaker 1: ripple effect of sheets of rain hitting you and then

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Speaker 1: the wind's blowing around like that. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you notice. Yesterday it was like Florida hot up here.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was it was like dangerous hot, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was like get the dogs inside hot. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We try to. We try to eat dinner outside as

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Speaker 1: much as we can when the weather is nice here

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Speaker 1: and knowing the season so short but less. The last

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Speaker 1: night we had tacos. So I made the tacos last

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Speaker 1: you combined the spicy tacos with the humidity. I need

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Speaker 1: an extra napkin for my head. Right, So you're like

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Speaker 1: you're eating tacos in a spa basically, right, sauna. Right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like it was like something you'd pay It's like

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Speaker 1: our sauna. Yeah right, one of those health things. Right.

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Speaker 1: it's gorgeous out there. Now it feels cold, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: It's it's bearable. It's not terrible for those of you.

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Speaker 1: yesterday in town one of the new bills, Josh Norman,

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Speaker 1: who everybody's heard about. He's a guy that came from

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Speaker 1: He's back in Buffalo on the team and yesterday he

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Speaker 1: The two of them came to Buffalo. They're on a

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Speaker 1: one of those cynical guys. He's kind of like I,

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Speaker 1: thousands of athletes. He was I have never seen a

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Speaker 1: guy more impressive than I saw Josh Norman yesterday. I

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Speaker 1: was like, what. And certainly Josh Norman made a positive

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Speaker 1: had an extensive interview with Josh Norman. We can't we

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Speaker 1: And to have a mirror like him to distance who

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Speaker 1: battles at each position and seeing the number of reps

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Speaker 1: guys are getting. I miss back when the the news

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Speaker 1: would show practice highlights. That's been mostly done away with

431
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Speaker 1: hopefully they can give the fans a look that way again,

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Speaker 1: since we can't go. It's a valid point that Jack makes.

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Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be honest with you, Steve, and we've

434
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Speaker 1: talked about this briefly on the show. We don't know

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Speaker 1: what our coverage is going to look like based on

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Speaker 1: the COVID restrictions, right, And same thing with the news people.

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Speaker 1: I mean, certainly it's different. One camera or or three

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Speaker 1: cameras whatever, you know, whatever affiliates or whatever news entity

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Speaker 1: wants to show up and show highlights. But it'll be

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Speaker 1: interesting to see. Plus, if if practice is closed, that

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Speaker 1: means closed. They don't want the media in there. And

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Speaker 1: of course, you know, all the fields have a wall

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00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: around him, a solid fence, So I imagine it will

444
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: probably be a little bit more freeing for the coaching

445
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 1: staff knowing that there's nobody watching these practices except us.

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Speaker 1: So let's let's let's go ahead and start to implement

447
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: some things we're gonna do on Week one against the

448
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: Jets in Orchard Part. That kind of thing is going

449
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Speaker 1: to happen a lot quicker in the process, I think

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Speaker 1: than it would normally. Yeah, and I will say it's

451
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: not lost on us that there's an opportunity that the

452
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Speaker 1: fans do not have this summer with training camp not

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Speaker 1: being open to the public. But I will say that's

454
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Speaker 1: not lost on us, and we will try to provide

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Speaker 1: whatever coverage we can to the extent that we can.

456
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: We just much like we don't know if they're going

457
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Speaker 1: to be fans in the stands for regular season games,

458
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: I think us as a media content department for the Bills,

459
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Speaker 1: we don't know what we're walking into either, just because

460
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: we're still probably a little too far away from training

461
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Speaker 1: camp to know where the restrictions will lie at that

462
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: point in time and what the data is going to

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Speaker 1: tell the medical experts what can and cannot be done.

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Speaker 1: So we're all kind of in a holding pattern with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's not going to change until we get there.

466
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Speaker 1: And think about this as well, how starved are we

467
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Speaker 1: gonna be for real football, regular football when the regular

468
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Speaker 1: season rolls around, Particularly since the conversations we spoke about

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Speaker 1: yesterday are taking place, the NFLPA and the NFL are

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Speaker 1: thinking about, you know what, let's slice its preseason and

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Speaker 1: half they're only getting get two preseason games, probably one

472
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Speaker 1: home one away. What those will look like with or

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Speaker 1: without fans remains to be seen, whether they'll be they

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Speaker 1: had televised the same way, whether they'll look the same.

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Speaker 1: But when the teams show up on opening day, you're

476
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Speaker 1: gonna have had even less of a look at what

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Speaker 1: the team's gonna be, and there'll be that much more

478
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Speaker 1: appetite for these things on television. When these games finally

479
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: hit for real. You can only imagine, you know, the

480
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: fervor that it surrounds every NFL game being multiplied by

481
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Speaker 1: a couple of times all the way across the board,

482
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Speaker 1: because they're just they're just so anxious to see what

483
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Speaker 1: their team's gonna look like. Who's gonna be there, what,

484
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: you know, no training camp to look at, no word

485
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Speaker 1: coming out as to who's looking good or who's not.

486
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Speaker 1: Two preseason games which they're gonna look a lot different

487
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Speaker 1: because there's only two of them. You don't have four

488
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Speaker 1: of them. So when are the starters gonna play? How

489
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Speaker 1: much are they gonna play, What are they gonna look like?

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Speaker 1: How many rips are they gonna take? Are they gonna

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Speaker 1: play a whole half? Are they not gonna you know,

492
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: a huge amount of questions about how the coaching staffs

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00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: are gonna deploy their veterans during training camp, during training camp,

494
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Speaker 1: the preseason games, particularly if there's only two of them.

495
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of tremendously, tremendously unique this year in

496
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Speaker 1: so many different ways. One more on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 1: here from Tiffany. Our family will greatly miss the personal

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Speaker 1: interaction with the players. Going to camp is our favorite

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Speaker 1: summer activity. We've had a lot of wonderful moments with

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Speaker 1: many of the players. Josh Allen's one of the kindest,

501
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: most generous players, especially with the kids. Yeah, I mean Steve.

502
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Speaker 1: I've talked to fans out of training camp that build

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Speaker 1: a build a vacation week around spending time at camp.

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Speaker 1: They'll drive up from you know, Binghamton or all Albany.

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Speaker 1: Uh you know they yeah, they live down in the

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Speaker 1: Capitol region, but they want to get up to training

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Speaker 1: camp and they will use vacation days for the drive up,

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00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: the drive back, and maybe two days at camp. H

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00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: They they set their schedule to training camp to experience it.

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00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: So many people have for whatever reason, and we know

511
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: everybody knows people who have moved away from Western New York,

512
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: particularly Buffalo. The you know, over the decades, you know,

513
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: the the dispersion of Western New Yorkers across the country

514
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: to different parts of other parts of the country. That's

515
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: why Bill's Backers Bars exists everywhere. That's why the Bills

516
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: Mafia spreads like wildfire, and people keep track of the team,

517
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: and people from all over the country who have roots

518
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: in Western New York exactly what you said. They they

519
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: formulate their summer vacation to come back and include a

520
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: trip to Training Camp as part of their normal summer vacation.

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Speaker 1: When they come back to visit their their relatives and

522
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: their ancestors and their cousins and their mom's, dad's uncles, whatever,

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Speaker 1: the people who still live here in Western New York,

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00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: they come back to visit, and they always do it

525
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: around Training Camp so they can go to Rochester and

526
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: watch all that goes away now and it's you know,

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Speaker 1: for all the strange things that we're all going through

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00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: it and now, I think Training Camp for a lot

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00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: of people, it's one more of those mile markers that

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00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: gets missed in a summer of a lot of events

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Speaker 1: that you always were going to try and highlight and hit.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those that you're gonna miss I think,

533
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: and some people are gonna miss it greatly. Yeah, you know,

534
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: it's I think at this point in time, a lot

535
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: of people have come to grips and accepted the situation

536
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: we all find ourselves in in terms of the things

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00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: that we can't do. This one is gonna someone's gonna

538
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: stick with Bills fans for a little bit, at least

539
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: until they get to the regular season and can watch

540
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: a little football. Steve Tasker, Chris Brown, we're here broadcasting

541
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: on the radio till three o'clock One Bills Live. Coming

542
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: up after the break, we're gonna have a more of

543
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: the Josh Norman sound bite from his visit to Buffalo.

544
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: He's on US five city tour in six days on

545
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: behalf of the social justice that we're all fighting again,

546
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: fighting four in the current climate. Thanks for being with us.

547
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: Steve Tasher, Chris Brown. We're here for one Bills Live

548
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: and it's presented by Kalida Health on Buffalo Bills Radiocash

549
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: Law with Chris Brown. We're here till three o'clock. Later

550
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: in the show, we've got David Baker of the Pro

551
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame coming on with us they opened

552
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: their doors yesterday in Canton, Ohio, and still have plans

553
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: on carrying off the Hall of Fame game as scheduled

554
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: with fans in the stands. We'll talk to David Baker

555
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: today later on in the show. Yesterday, Josh Norman was

556
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Speaker 1: in town on a with linebacker Damario Davis of the

557
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints, and they flew into Buffalo to meet

558
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: with Mayor Byron Brown and during a press conference they had,

559
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: they addressed police reform in the city and after that,

560
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: Bills reporter Mattie Glab sat down to discuss why Josh

561
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: Norman and Roy Davis are doing their tour to speak

562
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: out against racial injustice and police brutality. Here's what happened

563
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: through the years. We just you know, it was there's solutions.

564
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: There's problems in the world that a lot of people

565
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: turned a blind eye too, that wouldn't go out there

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Speaker 1: and serve. We we took up the mantle and we

567
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: went out and did where we could, use our own

568
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Speaker 1: resources and did everything we could in the community to

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Speaker 1: bring light to the issues that was there. And when

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Speaker 1: we was there, we tried to bring into solutions to

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Speaker 1: those problems, but they were so vast that you could

572
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: only do what you're charged with. And so we helped

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Speaker 1: down in the border San Antonio with racist We teamed

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Speaker 1: up with those guys when you know, everything was going

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Speaker 1: with the captivity of you know, the borders and how

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00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: the Hispanics was really treated down there, which was, oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, I want to get into that one. But

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Speaker 1: we also went and did other various events. When there's hurricanes,

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Speaker 1: relief funds, we went ahead and charge ourselves in that manner.

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00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: Pretty much everything that happened, we took the mantle and

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00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: ran with it, whatever that may be. And when this struck,

582
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that was like we gonna rise up

583
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: or what? And I knew it was something that we

584
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: wanted to do, but what I didn't have it, and

585
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: I just knew that change needed to come. So I

586
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: started praying. I was like, guy, what is that that

587
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: is you want me to do? And sure enough he came.

588
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: He visited me in the shower. I did not realize

589
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: that that time was gonna come, but it was clear

590
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: as day I wanted you to do to side the

591
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: six Cities in five days. I did not know where

592
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: we was going or what we was going to do.

593
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: I just knew I needed to go to these cities

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Speaker 1: and try to bridge the gap between the community and

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Speaker 1: the government that's in that city. Whatever it was, do

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00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: all you can be in the midst and I will

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00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: help you. That's all I heard. And so when that happened,

598
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: I knew. The first person I called up was fu

599
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: partner in crime. Came to the Joshua almost and the

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00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: Batman to the Robin, to Mario Davis, and it was

601
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: one of those things where I already knew he was in.

602
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: It was just giving him a download and the process

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00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: and information that he knew he was gonna have to

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Speaker 1: take on. This was a gruesome challenge by any stretching imaginations,

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00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: going to all the cities and trying to actually talk

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00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: to people on both sides to come to an agreement

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00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: and meet at the table, because right now the community

608
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: is hurt and they want to be heard. They want

609
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: someone to listen and I don't even listen find a

610
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: solution to the problem that's being truck right now by

611
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: black people were getting murdered by police officers, Like that's

612
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: not right in any sense of matter, and enough is enough.

613
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: So they want to hear that and We are the

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00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: gap to bridge between government and the officials on the ground,

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00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: which is the community. And if we can be any

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00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: part of that and doing anything take us out of it,

617
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: just wipe our face off. We just wanted to bring

618
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: in that gap, link that chain so communities to be

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Speaker 1: better for all. You have been an activist for so

620
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: many different things and using your platform that the NFL

621
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: gives you to be a force for change, a force

622
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: for better, to leave this country and to leave this

623
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: world better than you found it. What is your motivating factor,

624
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: and specifically with what's going on in our country with

625
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: racial injustice, with police brutality, with being done with seeing

626
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: people be murdered by the police. What's the motivating factor

627
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: here to create change and to do that in all

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Speaker 1: ways shapes and that you can right now. Well, I'm

629
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Speaker 1: fortunate and I'm truly blessed that I wasn't a statistic,

630
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: you know, And I don't think people really understand what

631
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: I mean by that, A statistic in the neighborhoods in

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00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: which black young mans can't get out unless you are

633
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: some type of an athlete, or unless you're doing something

634
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: in an uncanny way till you making some type of

635
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: money to where you can get out because the education

636
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: and the systems are not for the black community as

637
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: it would be for any other community. That's just being

638
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: in it and seeing real and what's facts. Fixing those problems,

639
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: those issues best another task that we will have to

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00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: take on. But right now on this police brutality is

641
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: what's taking us out of this world. And when I

642
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: saw that, I know what that feels like because I

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Speaker 1: was being profiled. But I had to go through a

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Speaker 1: lot of transformation in my life to understand what is

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Speaker 1: my true purpose? What is my value in this life?

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Speaker 1: Is it to play a professional sport and be called,

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Speaker 1: you know, one of the greatest that did the game?

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Speaker 1: Or is it to serve others? Like what is you

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Speaker 1: going to be left when your tombs don't come mine?

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Speaker 1: Is I want to be a servant, not a football

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Speaker 1: player football player or something for me to balance out

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Speaker 1: the equation of finding the resources to give back to

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Speaker 1: the people. Now, that is who I truly am. And

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Speaker 1: when you look at that, what that looks like for you,

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Speaker 1: you know what that looks like for others and for

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Speaker 1: me bridging that gap bringing people in in the same room,

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Speaker 1: on the same table. One race one. Equality is what

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Speaker 1: I see. Let's see black, white, green, yellow. I don't

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Speaker 1: see those things because guess what if you was to

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Speaker 1: cut yourself, what was your color being read? One? Same

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Speaker 1: as mine? So why do I see you white and

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Speaker 1: you see me black? That's just a figure of mad nation.

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Speaker 1: We all are equal of the one nation and the

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Speaker 1: And that's what we stand upon, or do we We

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Speaker 1: say we do, but it is truly real. So now

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Speaker 1: we have the opportunity to end this, to eradicate all

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Speaker 1: of that right now, because this is the uprising, truly

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Speaker 1: to people who have lost people in COVID, I really don't,

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Speaker 1: But this is the true pandemic and it's been that

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Speaker 1: way for four hundred plus years, some of the slaver's ships,

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Speaker 1: this is that's been that way, and now you're seeing

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Speaker 1: the light in the true shedding of that light. I mean,

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00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: white people are being educated at an alarming rate. The

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Speaker 1: TEP was mad, and I don't get me wrong, I

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Speaker 1: believe it. He needs to be because we turned them

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Speaker 1: back over that key to the people in power. That

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Speaker 1: needs to be in order to have unified equality for all.

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Speaker 1: We just heard from Mayor Byron Brown. He is announcing

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Speaker 1: several different police reforms that will go into effect immediately

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Speaker 1: George Floyd at the hand of an ex police officer,

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Speaker 1: and Mayor Brown said, this is just the beginning of

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Speaker 1: a lot of reform here in Buffalo. And Josh you

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Speaker 1: said that you've been to a few cities already to

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Speaker 1: bridge the gap between the government and to the people

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Speaker 1: and to help create change, help create a community that

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Speaker 1: is for all people, not just one race. What you

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Speaker 1: heard today in Buffalo and being a part of listening

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Speaker 1: to Mayor Brown speak as well as you speaking, you

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Speaker 1: said you haven't seen this before in a city yet

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Speaker 1: where the mayor is listening to his people and where

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Speaker 1: change is happening within a week. What stood out to

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Speaker 1: you about that being in different cities and now coming

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Speaker 1: to Buffalo and seeing that change is taking place and

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Speaker 1: hopefully it can be the beginning of a lot of

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Speaker 1: things used to happen in the future here in Buffalo. Right.

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Speaker 1: And I think the case where George Ford who was

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Speaker 1: murdered on TV. You looked before then who was he

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Speaker 1: was shot a shotgun or two white guys? Before that

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Speaker 1: Black people was tired. They rallied, but was it enough

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Speaker 1: to get that push. Michael Floyd got took out by

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Speaker 1: the cop with a senseless great act by putting his

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Speaker 1: knee on his neck and Michael Ford's calling out for

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Speaker 1: his mama. That touched not just you, and touched everybody

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Speaker 1: in the world that who was watching and listening to that.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't deny that a crime was committed on national television.

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Speaker 1: Everybody see that right there, along with being picked up

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Speaker 1: in the house with the pandemic and everybody they're going

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Speaker 1: to rose. It was nothing that was gonna stop that

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Speaker 1: from happening. It was God ordained. I would say twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty has been a real dark spot for a lot

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Speaker 1: of people. Man, it really has been behind sight twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty has it? Has? It? Has? Black people really truly

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Speaker 1: honestly got this moment since when since Martin Luther King

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Speaker 1: was free. I have a dream that one day it's

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Speaker 1: this the day that that dream comes true. I asked

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Speaker 1: my fellow people. That is that? I mean, I asked, really,

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Speaker 1: watch it is that day? This year, it's today, it's

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Speaker 1: to marrows, it's to speak. I mean, you tell me,

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Speaker 1: but I can tell you one thing, magical things that

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Speaker 1: both sides of the view. Yeah, we lost people, but man,

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Speaker 1: what we're gaining. It's evolution one race? What better than

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Speaker 1: that people are looking the same. I don't have to

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Speaker 1: turn on my TV and look at you know, commercials

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Speaker 1: or just one race all the time. I can see

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Speaker 1: equality in that. I can see equality of wort than

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Speaker 1: five hundred companies. I can see a community that struck

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Speaker 1: in my property and become out of poverty and to

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Speaker 1: a higher pinion race. Why is their property? You know

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Speaker 1: when you look at things like that, Why is fourteen

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Speaker 1: fifteen percent of African Americans in this country are in

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Speaker 1: the poverty level and they don't hold less than two

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Speaker 1: percent of wealth? Why is that? You tell me? But

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Speaker 1: we the number one seller and all your money that

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Speaker 1: we print and pillions of dollars of what we spend,

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Speaker 1: we were the number one? How is that? How is

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Speaker 1: that realistic? I don't want to get too much on statistics.

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Speaker 1: But when I came here, I felt something that was here.

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Speaker 1: It was been a struggle with the past, so many

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Speaker 1: things for two weeks. They say I just caught here,

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Speaker 1: but I felt that tension. But what that tension did.

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Speaker 1: It created something. You know, when people say they don't

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00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: like change, they are afraid to change. You know why

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00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: they're afraid to change because they don't want to be

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Speaker 1: out with the old and come in with the new. Now,

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Speaker 1: that is when you are moving forward. When you get uncomfortable,

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Speaker 1: how those uncomfortable conversations, because that's when you grow Because

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00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: if you're comfortable in the same splace you at, how

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Speaker 1: can you You'll be doing the same thing over and over.

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Speaker 1: Some people are upset by this, but guess what most

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00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: are not. Most are uncomfortable because they said it was

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Speaker 1: going to change the way things are in this country,

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Speaker 1: and they immobilize because they're coming for the uprising. This

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Speaker 1: is what it is for all of us. It's all

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Speaker 1: about evolution, and I think the people of this country

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Speaker 1: can be that becan of hope to the rest of

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Speaker 1: the world. That's what we will be as a whole

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Speaker 1: entire world. To say, my gosh, we truly eradicated racial injustice.

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Speaker 1: That was an extended audio clip of Josh Norman yesterday

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Speaker 1: as he sat down with Maddie Glab after a press

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Speaker 1: conference where he has got together with Mary Bryan Brown

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Speaker 1: and leaders of the police force and some of the

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Speaker 1: social protesters that have been in town. He complimented the

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Speaker 1: city for its willingness for both sides of this issue

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Speaker 1: to come together. And it doesn't come from nowhere Brown,

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Speaker 1: I mean Josh Norman as well as all the guys

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Speaker 1: who were who have been come to Buffalo from the

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers organization. We're firsthand sort of witnesses to some

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Speaker 1: of the things that were going on with the Carolina

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Speaker 1: Panthers organization when Jerry Richardson was the owner. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: a great atmosphere down there, right He you know, was

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Speaker 1: accused and had reached settlements with employees in his own

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Speaker 1: office for both sexual and racial misconduct. So not the

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Speaker 1: kind of person you want at the top of your organization,

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Speaker 1: especially if you are a person of color. If that's

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Speaker 1: the approach one is going to take. Now he is

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00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: obviously he was essentially forced to sell the team because

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Speaker 1: of those infractions. And yesterday we see the statue that

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00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: was of Jerry Richardson along with two Carolina Panthers promptly

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Speaker 1: taken down as new owner Dave Tepper found a loophole

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Speaker 1: by which to take it down because there was a

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Speaker 1: contractual obligation of some kind that I'm not completely familiar

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Speaker 1: with that prevented them from taking the statue down. But

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Speaker 1: Dave Tepper in a statement that was promptly issued, and

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Speaker 1: then a half hour later the thing was being taken down.

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Speaker 1: Basically that read due to a public safe turn for

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Speaker 1: public safety, which was the only means by which it

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00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,160
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Speaker 1: nobody argued with him either, and all reports indicate that

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Speaker 1: there were only about twenty to thirty onlookers who were

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00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: more curious than anything. And it's an unfortunate page in

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Speaker 1: the history of the Carolina Panthers organization. And well it

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00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: was really it wasn't just a page though too. It

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Speaker 1: was a it was a little bit of an atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jerry Richardson in Carolina and Charlotte. If if

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Speaker 1: nobody there have been a number of instances like Keith

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Speaker 1: Lamont Scott a forty three year old man who was

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Speaker 1: shot by Carolina police the next week. There was an

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Speaker 1: uprising about the injustice of it. There was and then

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Speaker 1: Marcus Ball, who was a safety for the Panthers, during

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Speaker 1: the national anthem in the game against him Minnesota Vikings

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Speaker 1: at home, raised a finger and pointed to the sky

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Speaker 1: as a symbol of a one love movement that had

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Speaker 1: been begun there in Carolina. Due to that shooting, Marcus

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Speaker 1: Ball was subsequent two days later was off the team,

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Speaker 1: and there was an admitted atmosphere in the team where

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Speaker 1: guys didn't want to speak out publicly in any way,

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00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: shape or form about social injustice. There was a real

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Speaker 1: chilling effect from the very high echelons of the organization

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Speaker 1: to not make waves of that nature in Charlotte. And

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Speaker 1: it started with Jerry Richardson. I think it was right,

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Speaker 1: and I had understood the way I understood it before,

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Speaker 1: before George Floyd or any of this social movement. We

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00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: had now experienced the way I understood it. The League

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Speaker 1: pressure Jerry Richardson, or requested, or however you want to

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00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: state it, said you should not be an NFL owner,

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Speaker 1: and we'd like you to move on and David Tepper

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Speaker 1: came in, and of course David Tepper is in anything

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Speaker 1: but socially not socially confidence conscious. He has told his

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00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: player's point blank. He says, you need to keep this

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00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: movement going even after the hype dies down. He's essentially

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Speaker 1: the Auntie Richardson, if you will, I know, we got

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Speaker 1: to take a break here, Steve, but we can talk

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Speaker 1: about this more on the other side, Absolutely, Steve castor

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown. We're here till three o'clock. David Baker coming up.

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Speaker 1: We've got NFL true false, other news and notes. We've

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Speaker 1: got what we learned, a number of things going on,

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Speaker 1: a lot of topics to talk about. We've also got

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna miss about training camp? Go to

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Speaker 1: our go to our Twitter page, answer that or give

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Speaker 1: us a call. At eight three, five fifty one Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health, we'll be right back on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back with One Bill's Live. Steve

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00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: Task along with Chris Brown. We were talking a moment

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Speaker 1: ago about the extended audio clip that we had from

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Speaker 1: Josh Norman his five city tour in six days that

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Speaker 1: for Social for Social Justice, meeting with the mayor of

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Speaker 1: Buffalo yesterday, and members of the movement and the protesters

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00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: that have been been going on, the police departments, everybody

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00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: trying to get around the table to be heard and understood.

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Speaker 1: Mostly if you want to listen to any of that,

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Speaker 1: you can go to Buffalo Bills dot com and the

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00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: podcast portions of the show, also the Buffalo Bills app, Spotify,

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Speaker 1: Google Play, and Apple podcasts of course as well. Sooner

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Speaker 1: or later, Brownie and I will be back on television

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00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: on MSG as we have always been, But for now

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Speaker 1: we're going to be perfectly happy broadcasting remotely during the pandemic,

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Speaker 1: like everybody else is working remotely as best as they can.

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Speaker 1: As well, the atmosphere that Josh Norman got a firsthand

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Speaker 1: look into that. You know, we spoke a little bit

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Speaker 1: right before the break, Brownie about the atmosphere that the owner,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Richardson fostered in Carolina. Yeah, in Carolina. Unfortunately, that's

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Speaker 1: just one football team in one sports league, and you

858
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 1: got to know there are countless companies and other entities

859
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: that where it wasn't just racial improprieties, was also sexual

860
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: improprieties just to write style and toxic work and maybe

861
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: the shame of it looking back on it now, not

862
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Speaker 1: that this should be diminished in any way, shape or form,

863
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 1: but all by all accounts, Richardson was just as guilty

864
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Speaker 1: of sexual misconduct as he was racial misconduct. But what

865
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Speaker 1: grabbed the headlines at that time was the sexual misconduct,

866
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: and understandably so, but still the racial misconduct took a

867
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Speaker 1: backseat to that. It wasn't even mentioned all that much

868
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: because back then, being against the kneeling and the protests

869
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: that were prevalent at the time had been readily accepted

870
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: by a good portion of the population, and so those

871
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: infractions were not given nearly the amount of magnitude as

872
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Speaker 1: his sexual misconduct in the workplace. This first chance head

873
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:22,439
Speaker 1: into public consciousness in twenty seventeen. Sports Illustrated published an

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Speaker 1: article in two thousand, near the end of the two

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Speaker 1: seventeen season where these charges were first, you know, made public,

876
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: brought to light. And then it was shortly after that

877
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,959
Speaker 1: when whoever asked questions got the wrong answers. For letting

878
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Speaker 1: Jerry Richardson off the hook, there was just no escaping

879
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: it at that point, and the league moved seemingly pretty quickly,

880
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden David Tepper as the owner

881
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: of the Carolina Panthers for whatever reason, whether it's good

882
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: or bad, where it took him a long time, whether

883
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: nobody knew outside the organization, whatever. When it became public,

884
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: the league acted surprisingly quickly to find a new owner

885
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: for the Panthers. Yeah, all right, we'll got what state

886
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 1: of the bills coming up here on the other state

887
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: of the bills coming up, and it is the offensive

888
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: line coming up on the other side of this. We're

889
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Speaker 1: gonna be just after the top of the hour. This

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Chris Brown come back and join us. The

891
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Speaker 1: offensive line of the Buffalo Bills. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: that next. This is Buffalo Bills Radio presented by Kalid

893
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Speaker 1: to Health. And this is One Bills Live. Oh a

894
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Speaker 1: great time by Steve Lasper. That's down down, do's not

895
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Speaker 1: Buffalo Time. Welcome back to One Bills Live. Steve Tasker

896
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Speaker 1: and Chris Brown here till three o'clock. At two o'clock,

897
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Speaker 1: we've got David Baker, the director of the Pro Football

898
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. They opened their doors just yesterday after

899
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Speaker 1: being closed for three months up until that time. In

900
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Speaker 1: the fifty seven year history the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

901
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: It had never been closed for two consecutive days, but

902
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: because of the pandemic, they have just opened up after

903
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: a three month hiatus. Steve Tasker along with Chris Brown Brownie,

904
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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about now the state of the

905
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills and the offensive line certainly a huge upgrade

906
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: last year over what they were two years ago, a

907
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: completely revamping of the five guys up front, four brand

908
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: new starters along with Dion Dawkins left tackle, the only

909
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Speaker 1: hold over from twenty eighteen. And what a difference it

910
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 1: seemed to make. Yeah, no question. I mean the twenty

911
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: eighteen season, the team could not establish the line of

912
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: scrimmage in most of their football games, and it's why

913
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: their running game went south. It's why Lashawn McCoy had

914
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: one of the worst seasons of his career. And they

915
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: really couldn't run the football. So they had to do

916
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 1: wholesale changes up front, and they did that, and it

917
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: took them a little bit of time to fully gain

918
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Speaker 1: some traction where they looked like a well oiled machine.

919
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Speaker 1: I would say probably until about week seven or eight

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00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: before you really started to see the consistency come from

921
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Speaker 1: this group and they did well, and you know, Mitch

922
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Speaker 1: Morrise is clearly the anchor of that line going forward

923
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: as that veteran presence in the pivot. And you know,

924
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: Quentin Spain and John Feliciano are what Brian Dable needs

925
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Speaker 1: in this offensive scheme, which is thick road greater type

926
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Speaker 1: players who can push the pile inside and then you

927
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: have your more mobile guys on the outside and Morris

928
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 1: can pull to kind of help on the edges there.

929
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Speaker 1: So it was a good group, and I think it's

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00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 1: a group that, with this truncated offseason, is likely to

931
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Speaker 1: stay the same, knowing the familiarity they have with one

932
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: another coming in the door. I think it's going to

933
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: take a monumental effort from any of these guys with

934
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: the second unit to have the time and the chemistry

935
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Speaker 1: to make a move to really challenge one of these starters,

936
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Speaker 1: don't you think, Steve. Absolutely. Now you go down the

937
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: listening and taken for granted that Bills fans will know

938
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: the starters of Mitch Morris, John Feliciano, Quentin Spain, Dion Dawkins,

939
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Speaker 1: and Cody Ford a tie and Secky could be ruled

940
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: in there as well. But the new faces are the

941
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: interesting ones. Evan Bam signs as a free agent this offseason.

942
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: He's a center guard guy. Spencer Long is still in

943
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 1: the mix at center guard. Ike Butker. Marquel Harrold is

944
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent from Auburn. Evan Bam signed as

945
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: a free agent this offseason. Darryl Williams can play guard

946
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Speaker 1: as well. He signed a one year deal. He's from Carolina.

947
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: A nice tackle guard guy, Ryan Bates tackle guard. Garrett

948
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: mckinn tackle guard. Trey Adams undrafted free agent out of Washington,

949
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: the kid that had some injury problems in Washington before

950
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: he and before that he was a hop flight prospect

951
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: in the draft. He was looked to be a Day

952
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: one selection in the draft in the NFL, but his

953
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: injuries the last couple of years derailed his career a

954
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: little bit. Brandon Walton is an undrafted free agent out

955
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 1: of fau Victor, Salaco practice squad guy who was here

956
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: a year ago. Now, the Bills did resign and here's

957
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: some of the changes they made or moves they made

958
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: in the off season. They resigned Quentin Spain. He was

959
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: a free agent and the the beginning of the off

960
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: season we thought he was a high priority because that

961
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: you wanted to kind of keep those five guys together,

962
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Speaker 1: and Clinton Spain said, yeah, you know what, I want

963
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: to stay here. Took a deal from the Bills, didn't

964
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 1: really hit the open market, and and likes his spot

965
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: where he's at. Darryl Williams a one year deal from Carolina.

966
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Speaker 1: Daryl Williams, to me, is a very intriguing guy. I

967
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: think he could fight for the spot of right tackle

968
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: where Quentin Cody Ford and Tian Secki. Tyana Seck is

969
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: a guy who played very well when he was healthy,

970
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: but could not stay on the field. And if darry

971
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: Williams can come in and fill that void and play

972
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: as well as Insecki did, the offensive line could take

973
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: a big step forward. Um Evan Baine is a guy

974
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: that played center and guard in Arizona. He also with

975
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: a COLT. He was traded to the Dolphins in twenty nineteen.

976
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: He seems to be a journeyman. Maybe he'll find a

977
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Speaker 1: spot as a depth guy here. Walton and Adams are

978
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: two unsigned rookie free agents. Who knows how those are

979
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: gonna go? In second Nasecki um is he stay healthy enough,

980
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: He's in the last year of his couch track. He's

981
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: got a lot of incentives to play well, and he

982
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: had high ankle sprain issues last year which compromised his availability. Uh.

983
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: When he did play though, I remember, you know, there

984
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: was a frequent I know what you're gonna saynishing drives

985
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: with touchdowns. Yeah, when he was on SEC was the

986
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 1: tackle they were good. Yeah, so they were finishing drives

987
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: more effectively. And he's just a huge man who's got

988
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: a long reach and his really strong hands. So it'll

989
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: be interesting to see what Tie and Seky shows up.

990
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: The one that's completely healthy and ready to roll and

991
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, can can really push Cody forward for the

992
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: starting job or is it the ladder, which you know

993
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 1: got frustrating at times for fans because I think they

994
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: knew what he was capable of, but then he wasn't

995
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: healthy enough to execute it. And I think that frustrated

996
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: some fans because I think Bills fans, more than most

997
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: teams fans really do focus on line play more than

998
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: most other fans of other clubs whose fans generally gravitate

999
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: to the skill position players. They respect the work that

1000
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: these guys do. I think they were Yeah, I think

1001
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: they were put into that position by twenty eighteen when

1002
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: it was so painfully obviously you couldn't win. And so

1003
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: Bills fans are very heightened, and they knew all the

1004
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: changes that were made last year, and they saw the

1005
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,479
Speaker 1: competition in training camp. They saw the efforts the team

1006
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: that Brandon being got put into brand that fifteen offensive

1007
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: lineman in camp last year, they were going to find

1008
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: some guys that could play. The guy that intrigues me

1009
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: the most is Daryl Williams. I mean, here's a guy

1010
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: that has had to play tackle out of necessity the

1011
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: last two seasons for Carolina due in part to injury

1012
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: and free agent losses. But Brandon being back during the

1013
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: free agency period when he was made available to the media,

1014
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: in his mind, he believes guard is William's best position.

1015
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: That's not to say he can't play tackle, but ideally,

1016
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: if you want to get the most out of him,

1017
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: you line him up at guards. So does he push

1018
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: one of the two starting guards for a starting role.

1019
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll have to see. There may just

1020
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: not be enough time to really have a true position

1021
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: battle this summer. Based on the COVID restrictions. Based on

1022
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: the possibility of a shortened preseason, which was raised yesterday

1023
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: with the reports that the NFL and the NFLPA are

1024
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: both discussing the likelihood of a shortened preseason to give

1025
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: players more ramp up time and reduce the risk of injury,

1026
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: knowing they haven't been in team settings at all through

1027
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: the course of this offseason. So I think Daryl Williams

1028
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: is a guard option primarily, but could also factor into

1029
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: a swing tackle role. And the one player you haven't

1030
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,920
Speaker 1: mentioned yet Steve Ryan Bates, the player they traded for

1031
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: last summer when they moved who was it, Eli Harold.

1032
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: I think they traded to get Ryan Bates back from

1033
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and he was an undrafted rookie at a Penn State.

1034
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: He comes in here and makes the roster last year,

1035
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 1: and not only that, has the capability of playing all

1036
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: five positions on the offensive line. Not on need to

1037
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: tell you this, Steve, the more you can do, the

1038
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: greater your chances is sticking around in the NFL. And

1039
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: with that kind of versatility, he really helps himself. And

1040
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: so in what I see as one of the deepest

1041
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: offensive line contingents that I've seen on this roster in

1042
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: quite some time. I think Bates's position flexibility, despite the

1043
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 1: fact that you've added more veterans to this roster, still

1044
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: has a chance to make this team for a second

1045
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: straight season. Now, they'll keep nine guys because they'd get

1046
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: an extra offensive lineman because of the new roster exemptions,

1047
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: they'll keep eight guys healthy on game day and be

1048
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: able to have the ninth guy be an offensive lineman.

1049
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: You can dress forty seven now under the new CBA.

1050
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: If you have nine offensive line if one of them

1051
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: is yeah, if you have eight or whatever, it is

1052
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: nine offensive lineman, eight offensive lineman. I think it's got

1053
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: to be at least an eighth to carry forty seven.

1054
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: I think that's the way the full reads. So will

1055
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: teams be more inclined to carry an extra linement. At

1056
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: the start of last season, the Bills had ten offensive

1057
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: linemen on their fifty three at the very start when

1058
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 1: they first set the fifty three, ten of them were

1059
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: offensive linemen. That didn't stay the case whole season because

1060
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: you have injuries elsewhere and then you got to rob

1061
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 1: from Peter to pay Paul. But they had a fat

1062
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: number there at the start of the year last year.

1063
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 1: Do they have that again? Or are things more set

1064
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 1: in stone now with this line that was formulated last

1065
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 1: year and is coming back in its entirety this year,

1066
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: where they say, well, we know what we have, you know,

1067
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: let's just pick four more and go and we'll keep

1068
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: a couple of other guys on the practice squad. It's

1069
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see what the numbers look like

1070
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: when they get down to fifty three. Bam is an

1071
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: interesting candidate. Also, this is a guy who's got playing

1072
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: history with Mitch Morse, their former college teammates. Is Bam

1073
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: served primarily as the backup to Morse? How does that

1074
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: impact spencer job security on this roster? Is he in

1075
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: direct competition with him? So there are a lot of

1076
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: if thens here after the starters Steve that could very

1077
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: well swing the balance in a heartbeat for one player

1078
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: over another. And with a preseason, and presumably you know,

1079
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: training camp will go as long as it usually does,

1080
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: but with a shortened preseason, the opportunities are going to

1081
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: be fewer and further between for some of these backup guys,

1082
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 1: especially new ones on the scene, to make a true impression.

1083
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 1: That's right, I mean, there's certainly a bunch of practice

1084
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: squad candidates on this roster. But you're right, Ryan Bates

1085
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: is a guy if you center tackle and guard, you

1086
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: almost can't cut him. You know. He's a big body's

1087
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: smart guy. He's got some experience in the in the

1088
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 1: system here which will serve him well. And you know

1089
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: in his um you know, in training camp and all

1090
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: that and getting acclimated and step into the right guy

1091
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: and doing the right things, it'll it should limit his

1092
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: mental mistakes. Hard to get rid of a guy like that.

1093
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: Hard to get rid of a guy like that. I

1094
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,439
Speaker 1: think Daryl Williams is in good shape to this roster

1095
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 1: in some capacity, presumably a saying you said this too,

1096
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: darry Williams mostly a guard. So here's what you're looking at.

1097
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: Roll Williams come in, push for a starting job. And

1098
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: then you have Cody Ford Darryl Williams on the right

1099
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: side perhaps and you got do you have two guards

1100
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: playing guard tackle? Do you not have a true right tackle? Then?

1101
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, well compromises if you keep in secky,

1102
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: you do. Uh so maybe in secky if he plays well,

1103
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: he's your swing tackle. Darryl Williams is your swing guard,

1104
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: and Bates is your utility guy. And then there's maybe

1105
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,439
Speaker 1: one other spot right like for a Spencer Long, who's

1106
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: a veteran player in the league, Evan Bam, and it

1107
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 1: could be one of the young guys you know like

1108
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: well and who knows a guy like Ryan McGinn is

1109
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: still on the Trey Adams one of the who's a

1110
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: big body duty He's like six eight three three eighteen

1111
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: three eighteen. He's a big dude. Not a great athlete,

1112
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: but he's got long arms and he's a he's a

1113
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: very high prospect. And if he stays healthy or comes

1114
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: in healthy, there's a chance that a guy like Trey

1115
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: Adams could say he and they could say, hey, he

1116
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: looks pretty good despite his injuries and all of that.

1117
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: The guy's really playing well. He is that kind of

1118
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: guy that he's a better prospect than maybe Cody Ford

1119
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: was coming out. Because of the injuries, he didn't get

1120
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: viewed that way. But there was a time in his

1121
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: junior sophomore season when Trey Adams people were looking at

1122
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: him as a top five pick, a top ten pick,

1123
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: and then he had a knee injury, then he had

1124
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: a back injury, then he couldn't get on the field.

1125
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 1: And now he's a rookie free agent. Yeah, and we

1126
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: should also mention John Feliciano going into the last year

1127
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: of his contract, Dion Dawkins going into the last year

1128
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: of his rookie contract. So how does that influence both

1129
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: the coaching staff and the front office in terms of

1130
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: who they're going to keep knowing that some of the

1131
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,919
Speaker 1: people that are currently backups may need to ascend into

1132
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: a different kind of role going forward. Now I do

1133
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: expect them to extend Dion daw but I don't think

1134
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: there's any guarantees for Feliciano or tie and Secki for

1135
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: that matter. So do you lean heavier to the guard

1136
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: position because of that? You know, these are things that

1137
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: kind of enter into the equation on occasion that maybe

1138
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: some don't really consider. They look at the battle that

1139
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: face value, but they don't think long term, which obviously

1140
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: NFL front offices have to do right, And that's the

1141
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: thing as well. You get these guys on their last

1142
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: year of their contracts, and which is Tina Seki and

1143
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,919
Speaker 1: John Feliciano, two guys that are in the perfect world

1144
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: would start sixteen games for you if they're leaving and

1145
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: given the pension for this coaching staff to develop players.

1146
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you're talking about that would take

1147
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: to me Spencer Long is no longer the good asset

1148
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: because he's an older guy and kind of is what

1149
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna be. Young guys like like the guys we've

1150
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: we've been talking about, like the Trey Adams, the you know,

1151
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: the Brandon Walton's and all these young guys, Victor Silaco's.

1152
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 1: If you can develop one of those guys into a

1153
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: starting quality offensive lineman going forward, you're not pushed up

1154
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: against the wall to resign a guy like John Feliciano

1155
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: for big money. You're not back you don't you know,

1156
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: you don't get backed into a corner by Tying and

1157
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: Secki for another contract for him. Um like Quentin Spain.

1158
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: They got him for the right price this year because

1159
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: he was willing to sign that deal and to be

1160
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: a Buffalo Bill going forward. Don't know if John Feliciano

1161
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: will be that that accommodating or ty and Secki or

1162
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: you know, some of the other veteran guys that are

1163
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: on Dion Dawkins for that matter. He may want huge

1164
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: money as a left tackle, which he's got to get

1165
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: you know left tackles make a good buck. Do they

1166
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: put that on their cap when they've got to sign

1167
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 1: Trey White and Josh Allen and Tremaine Edmonds. Do they

1168
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: have room for another fourth guy even if he's even

1169
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: if he is a left tackle, or do they go

1170
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 1: out and find a left tackle. All of this stuff

1171
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: and then juggling and who they bring in and who

1172
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: they have and who they think they can develop going

1173
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 1: on down the road, it becomes a huge issue for

1174
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: constructing your offensive line roster going forward with a practice

1175
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: squad with guys that are going to be backups for

1176
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: a year, and maybe you can get some snaps here

1177
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: and there and start to get better, and you can

1178
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: start to evaluate them where you need to coach them up,

1179
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: where you need to work on their game. All of

1180
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: that goes into this roster an offensive line because there

1181
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: are five guys with similar but different skill sets for

1182
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 1: each position, similar but different demands for each position, and

1183
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: similar but different ideals for each position. Man, it's a

1184
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: chemistry test that is really difficult, even given the variety

1185
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: of guys they've got on the roster right and there

1186
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: are a lot of options there, and with limited time

1187
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:57,440
Speaker 1: to square it all away. I wonder how these decisions

1188
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: are going to be made. They're gonna have to be

1189
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: made less of a body of work, and sometimes when

1190
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: there's less information to go on, you run the risk

1191
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: of maybe not being as certain about what you have

1192
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 1: or you think you have. And Darry Williams only signed

1193
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: a one year contract too, let's not forget that. So

1194
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: you know that's a guy that's going to be supremely

1195
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: motivated to nail down a roster spot. But even beyond

1196
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: this year, if he proves to be a swing guard

1197
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: or a swing tackle, whatever it is, you know that's

1198
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: a guy you got to make a decision on after

1199
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: this year too. I wonder, I wonder what Bobby Johnson

1200
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: thinks of all these guys as well. I think the

1201
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:40,959
Speaker 1: new offensive line coach from last year did a really

1202
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: masterful job in putting together an entirely new group with

1203
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 1: a new coach in the room. There was a huge

1204
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: lot there's a lot of question marks last year, but

1205
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 1: there was no doubt either that no matter what Bobby

1206
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: Johnson did, they were going to be better than they

1207
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 1: were the year before. I mean, you know what I mean,

1208
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,479
Speaker 1: we almost said it for granted, they couldn't be worse.

1209
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: And let's not forget they made a coaching change there

1210
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: because Bobby Johnson was the new line coach last year.

1211
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Yeah, so that was he was new.

1212
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: All the guys were gonna be new. So there's a

1213
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 1: lot of question marks, but there was an accepted opinion

1214
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: that they were going to be better because there was

1215
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: a lot of effort put in in the pool of

1216
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: talent that they were choosing from was a lot deeper

1217
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: than it had been. Now, Bobby Johnson coming into this year,

1218
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: it's a little different animal. He knows all the guys

1219
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: he had last year on the starting five and in

1220
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: the room as backups and in the practice squad as well,

1221
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: so he knows all of those guys pretty well. He

1222
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 1: knows he's gonna have a little less time to evaluate

1223
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: the new guys, although film helps a lot. They'll be

1224
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: able to watch all these other guys on film, except

1225
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: for the young rookie free agents. And I think it'll

1226
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: be interesting for him is how much he leans on

1227
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: the guys he trusts. You know, how much room is

1228
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: there going to be, how much how many changes they

1229
01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 1: feel they have to make from last year, how far away?

1230
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 1: Does he think they were from being a dominant offensive

1231
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: line last year? What did they miss? We may get

1232
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: some insight into that as the season rolls on, but

1233
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: we're not going to get it when we can't go

1234
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: out to training camp and watch these guys on a

1235
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 1: day to day basis, let alone the potential of only

1236
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: playing two preseason games, it's I mean, it's a lot

1237
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: less active reps against live competition. You know, in a

1238
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 1: true hitting setting where you got to worry about combination

1239
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 1: blocks and even though the defenses are vanilla, you're gonna

1240
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: see maybe a blitz er two here or there. So

1241
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: you're not going to have all that for the evaluation purposes.

1242
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 1: So as much as as much as the challenge might

1243
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: be for the players to kind of assert themselves and

1244
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: say this is what I have and this is what

1245
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: I can bring to the table, I think it's equally

1246
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: as challenging for the coaches to make the right calls.

1247
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: Right And here's what you're looking at. If you're looking

1248
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:54,040
Speaker 1: at the veterans, and if you're thinking, now, this is

1249
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 1: going to be a veteran offensive line. Daryl Williams, Ryan Bates,

1250
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: who's round, who's a first year last year, but it's

1251
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: got to be considered a veteran now because of his

1252
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 1: versatility and Spencer Long, those three guys behind the first

1253
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:12,560
Speaker 1: five offensive linemen, it's gonna be That's what Trey Adams, what,

1254
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,439
Speaker 1: Brandon Walton, what Victor Silaco and all these guys are

1255
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: trying are looking at to bust into the lineup. It's

1256
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: gonna be through Daryl Williams and his ability or inability

1257
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 1: to find a spot, Ryan Bates ability to be good

1258
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: enough at all three spots that he's going to be

1259
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: rotated into to find a place. Or Spencer Long, who

1260
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 1: can play center and either guard, and the value that

1261
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:39,559
Speaker 1: has to the team and his veteran nature of his career.

1262
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: Those are the three guys, Daryl Williams, Ryan Bates, Spencer Long,

1263
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: who I think are penciled in a six, seven and eight, right.

1264
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: So that's what you know. Like I said, Victor Silaco,

1265
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: Trey Adams, Garrett McGinn, Ryan Bates, all those guys are

1266
01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: looking at to try and break into maybe a nine

1267
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: deep depth chart on the active roster. Yeah, it's it's uh,

1268
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: it's muddled with that second group. It certainly is due

1269
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: to the fact that you have some guys that are

1270
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: new on the scene who haven't had a chance to

1271
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: prove themselves, and you kind of have a schmazzle of

1272
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,599
Speaker 1: other guys that really haven't gotten on the field all

1273
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 1: that much for the Bills, even though a good number

1274
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: of them were here last year. So there's there's a

1275
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: lot of shaking out that's going to have to happen

1276
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 1: behind the starters. So I guess if you had any uncertainty,

1277
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: you'd certainly want it with your second unit instead of

1278
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: your first. So I guess we look at that as

1279
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: a good thing for the Bills sort of. I'd like,

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Speaker 1: I won't mind if I hope they find two brand

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01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,360
Speaker 1: new starters, because they're just better, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're trying to get better, and the five starters, I

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01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: think if you say those guys are in no matter

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01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: what you're you're getting a little bit complacent. Particularly as fans,

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Speaker 1: I think we like to just set the offensive line

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Speaker 1: and forget. So they wanted there'll be a competition to

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Speaker 1: start for this, right, So tell me, then, who do

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Speaker 1: you think has the best shot of challenging for a

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Speaker 1: starting job of that second group? Oh, I would I

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Speaker 1: would say first of all, it'd be Daryl Williams, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would agree with that. That's who. That's who I

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Speaker 1: think it would probably be and Ryan Bates. Perhaps his

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01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: athleticism may be able to give him a spot at

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01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: playing His size and his athleticism may give him a

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01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 1: shot at playing guard because he can get out in

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01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:35,719
Speaker 1: front of screen passes, which which Spain and Feliciano didn't

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01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: do that well. They didn't remembering many screen passes last

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Speaker 1: year because those guys don't run that way. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to one of those lives. Sorry about it. We had

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Speaker 1: a little technical difficulty just before the break of which

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01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: cut us off a little early, and we were unaware

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Speaker 1: of it until after we finished talking about the Bills

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01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 1: offensive line. I hope you got a chance to catch that.

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01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: You can go back and catch portions of the show

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01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 1: on podcast at Buffalo Bills dot com, the Bills App, Spotify,

1306
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: Google Play, and Apple Podcast. Brownie, we were talking about

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01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 1: the offensive liner. Came down to it. There's a lot

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01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 1: of questions and I think there's gonna I think there

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01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: is a real competition amongst those guys to improve the

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01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 1: offensive line. I think the coaching staff is committed to it.

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01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:19,440
Speaker 1: And even though in the past we've seen how difficult

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01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: it is to pry into the starting lineup of the

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01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills because the coaching staff just it's it's the

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01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: starter's job to lose kind of thing. That even goes

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01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: for guys like Levi Wallace, and you know, when they're

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01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: the starter, they're the starter, they get treated with that respect.

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01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: I still think there's a move to get better at

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01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 1: every spot, and I think the Bills offensive line is

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01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,639
Speaker 1: going to show that maybe this year, maybe we will

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01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: see a new starter, despite the fact that all five

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01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,759
Speaker 1: from last year back right. And you know, it's interesting

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01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,680
Speaker 1: that we've had this conversation as long as we have,

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01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: and we haven't talked about what a lot of fans

1324
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: seem to be interested in, just how much will Cody

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01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: Ford advance? It's his game in year two. You know,

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01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: he was kind of coming on in the second half

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01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: of the season in his rookie year, but it was

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01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: the only reason it stopped being a platoon at right

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01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 1: tackle was because Tie and Seki had a high ankle

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01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 1: spraining couldn't play. Does that dynamic change this year? Does

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01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 1: Cody Ford grab the pull by the horns and say Hey,

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01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: this is my job. I got it for sixteen games.

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01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: Back off, you know, does he take a step with

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01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: his play? I think consistency was probably the thing that

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01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,720
Speaker 1: would rear its ugly head every once in a while

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01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,639
Speaker 1: for Cody, where he might have a bad snap here

1337
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: or there, give up something he didn't want to give up,

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01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 1: maybe not execute something that's the level he wished he

1339
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: could have. And you know, for a rookie, that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: What's going to happen in year two? Now, that's that's

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01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 1: a big question. Can he sees that position and say

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01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 1: this thing's mine outright? Yeah? Not only in year two

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01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: of his career what looks to be maybe a long

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01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: and productive career, but it's also year two without an

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01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 1: off season, with a different offseason, with a smaller off season,

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01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,560
Speaker 1: or with a totally solo offseason, however you want to

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01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 1: state it. He had some obstacles to overcome this offseason,

1348
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 1: and we'll see how he handles them when training camp starts.

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01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: Going to be interesting to see if you got it.

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01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 1: That's our conversation about the offensive line. If you want

1351
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 1: to chime in on it, you can at eight O

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty or one eighty eight five fifty

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01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: two five fifty. We also have a Twitter question today

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01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 1: that we are giving two fans and if there are

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01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: no fans, what will you miss most about not attending

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01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: training camp? Got a lot of responses, and Brownie, why

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01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: don't you read the one from Jeff at the top

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01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: of the page. Yeah, he says, I'd like to watch

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Speaker 1: the guys on the bottom of the roster in the preseason,

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01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 1: like Ray Ray, Isaiah Hodgins, and Christian Wade. So I

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01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: hope we get at least two preseason games to do that. Yeah,

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01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: I mean, he's right, because no fans at camp now

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01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: you're now you're down to getting eyeballs on him in

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01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: two preseason games May before if they stick to the

1365
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 1: original schedule, although there's talk already about reducing it to two.

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01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: So the opportunities are going to be few and far

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01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 1: between for fans to really lay their own eyeballs on

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01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:15,160
Speaker 1: these guys prior to the regular season. So yeah, I

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01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: mean more often than that, that's what we're hearing. Fans

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01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 1: are gonna miss just the chance to get their own

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01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: eyes on these guys. And it's unfortunate too, because they

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01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,839
Speaker 1: always always pick an underdog, right, everybody does it. Christian

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01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: Wade is the favorite underdog of a lot of people,

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01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a small window for him to

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01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: impress enough to get on the field. Guys like Christian Wade,

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01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: like Trey Adams, like MARKL. Harold, you know, Evan Bam,

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01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: these guys who knows, who's gonna, you know, make this

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01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: squad and who's not gonna make it because they're just

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01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 1: not going to get a chance to show what they

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01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 1: can do. And it's interesting stuff to think about, and

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01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a huge question going forward as to

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01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 1: who it is. Also on the tweet sheet from Michael

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01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: about what he'll miss about training camp is I made

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01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 1: plans and reservations to fly from Orlando to attend training

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01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 1: camp and take my daughter to Darien Lake. All of

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01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,719
Speaker 1: that might be out the window now, and it certainly

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01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: looks like it. Training camp is not going to be

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01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: an option for you. Although training Camp and dari and Lake,

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01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 1: who knows. I have no idea what's happening with amusement parks.

1390
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 1: But he's just a small example of the fans that

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01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 1: schedule their summer vacation plans around training camp like they

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01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: make it a part of their summer vacation plans. And

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01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: Michael's a perfect example of that. They're flying all the

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01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 1: way from Orlando, probably to get out of the heat,

1395
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: you know, in the deadest summer take in training camp,

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01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: and then the daughter gets the perker go into an

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01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:46,680
Speaker 1: amusement park. Yeah, and that's as he said, It's might

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01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 1: be all out the window now, I know, and generally speaking,

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01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: think about how big the adjustments are that we have

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Speaker 1: all made in our day to day lives so far

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01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: through the pandemic. All away from here in Western New York.

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01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 1: It's been since the first week of March since this

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01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: really hit and hit hard, and all the changes in

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01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: our day to day lives and the adjustments we've made

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01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 1: working from home, not going out to eat, not going

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01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: to bars, not going any public gatherings, staying apart from

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01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: people we know and love and neighbors, that kind of

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01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: thing all the and there's an long list of adjustments that,

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01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: when you take in total, has been massive. Do we

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01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 1: really have any reason, aside from things that are labeled

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01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: phase one, phase two, phase three, do we have any

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01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 1: reason to think that the fall and the rest of

1413
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 1: our calendar year are not going to be just as

1414
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 1: filled with adjustments of one shape or another. Yeah, there

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01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: will be adjustments. I think everybody's just hoping that those

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01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: adjustments become lesser and lesser in terms of how they

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01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: impact their daily lives. I think they're hoping as this

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01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: situation gets better, the numbers continue to decline and we

1419
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: go from phase to phase to phase of reopening, that

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01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 1: the inconveniences and the sacrifices that have to be made

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01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: for the greater good of the nation's public health, that

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01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 1: they're that they're lesser and lesser and not as not

1423
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: infringing as much on everybody's daily lives, daily freedoms, and

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01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 1: daily choices. All right, that's from the tweet sheet. We

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Speaker 1: turn a couple of those. Now it's time for Brownie

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Speaker 1: and I to move into the lunch hour. It's what's

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01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: for lunch? Brownie? Are you ready to choose from the menu? Oh,

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01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna hit some of these. Okay, we are. We

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01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 1: got time to hit a couple of them. What's for

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01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 1: lunch is where Brownie and I look at the menu

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01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 1: and we pick one or the other one from column A,

1432
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,120
Speaker 1: one from column being. We choose which one each of

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01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: us like better, and it starts with this player, the

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01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: player with the most pressure to save their career in

1435
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. These are players that obviously have some issues

1436
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 1: going forward. Here we go player with the most pressure

1437
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 1: to save their career in twenty twenty. With the Bengals,

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01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:04,640
Speaker 1: it's their wide receiver John Ross or the Bears quarterback

1439
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky. This is pretty easy. It's Trubisky. To me,

1440
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,759
Speaker 1: Nick Foles is there to replace him, plain and simple.

1441
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,520
Speaker 1: So the leash is going to be short for Trubisky

1442
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 1: if he happens to be fortunate enough to walk in

1443
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 1: as the starter day one in training camp. So for me,

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01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:27,200
Speaker 1: it's him. John Ross was a disappointment due to lack

1445
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 1: of availability because of injury more than anything else. He

1446
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 1: was injured his rookie season and then came back and

1447
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 1: was actually starting to break out as the receiver. AJ

1448
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: Green was hurt and they were looking to John Ross

1449
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: to kind of fill and be that number one for them,

1450
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: And there was a two or three weeks stretch where

1451
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: he was that man. He had a couple of monster

1452
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: games last year and then he got hurt again. And

1453
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 1: so I don't know that there's necessarily pressure to prove

1454
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: himself because he's shown an ability to make big plays

1455
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,799
Speaker 1: and carry the passing game of the Bengals. Now, granted

1456
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: it's going to be with a new quarterback this year,

1457
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: but I think there's at least some evidence of success

1458
01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,600
Speaker 1: there for him where I think the leash will be

1459
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: longer for John Ross than it will be for Trubisky. Yeah,

1460
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: two things. If John Ross stays healthy, he's under no

1461
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: pressure if the pressure is all on his quarterback. And likewise,

1462
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: that's why Trubisky's under more pressure to save his career.

1463
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 1: They had the great season as a rookie, and it's

1464
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 1: always falls the quarterback to develop, and they brought in

1465
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 1: Nick Foles to replace him because he's stunk. They're not

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01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: going to live with it. So he's under a lot

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01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 1: of pressure, and not just during the season. Brownie, He's

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01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 1: got to hope he makes it to the season. There's

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01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:47,880
Speaker 1: there's every reason to believe he's not going to see

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01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:49,640
Speaker 1: the field at all if Nick Foles comes in and

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01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: plays like we've seen Nick Foles play in the last

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Speaker 1: handful of years. So no question, I think Trubisky's under

1473
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 1: more pressure. All right, Then what's for lunch Number two,

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01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: number ID number two on the menu. Who's got the

1475
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,599
Speaker 1: better defense in NFL history? Is it the nineteen eighty

1476
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: five Bears or the two thousand Ravens For me, and

1477
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. I grew up, I went to

1478
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: school in Chicago. I was there during the nineteen eighty

1479
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: five I would just gone after the eighty five Bears.

1480
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 1: Well it was yeah. I was there during the eighty

1481
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: five Bears run to the Super Bowl. And I was

1482
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: also in the media and CBS had the Super Bowl

1483
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: in the two thousand Ravens when they beat the Giants

1484
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay in that Super Bowl. And to me,

1485
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens have the better defense. And I'll

1486
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 1: tell you why. First of all, no question, both teams

1487
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: had great players. The Bears were littered with Hall of

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Speaker 1: famers both up front and behind. Mike Singletary, Richard Dent,

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01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: Gary Fenzick. They had some guys, no question about him,

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01:22:56,000 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: Wilburg Marshall. They were really really good front and in

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01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 1: the secondary for the Chicago Bears. But I think the

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01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: Ravens were better. They had maybe the all time great

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01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: safety and Ed Reid, and they had Ray Lewis hit

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01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: middle linebacker and for my money, despite what you may

1495
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 1: think about ray Lewis on or off the field, ray Lewis,

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01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: in my mind, may be the greatest defender'd ever play.

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01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: Even up He's up there in the conversation for me

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01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: with Lawrence Taylor and Bruce Smith and maybe edges them

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01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:30,200
Speaker 1: out for the role that he played in the locker

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01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: room and in the meeting rooms and what he brought

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01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 1: to the table mentally. Certainly, Lawrence Taylor was a phenomenal

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01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, maybe the best pass rusher linebacker of all time.

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01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: And certainly Bruce nobody's even close to Bruce as a

1504
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: defensive end, particularly he played in the three four defensive end.

1505
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 1: The guy was a monster from start to finish. But

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01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 1: ray Lewis for what he brought to the table and

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01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: the elevate and the way he elevated the entire roster,

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01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: not just his defense, but the entire roster with his

1509
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: leadership and his knowledge of the game and his temperament

1510
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: and his natural leadership abilities. The two thousand Ravens were

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01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 1: phenomenal because of ed Read and mostly because of ray Lewis.

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01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 1: So I would give them the nine. You know, it's

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01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 1: funny because I did a little statistical research here, and

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01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: both of the defenses had eleven games in the regular

1515
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: season where they held their opponents to ten points or less.

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01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: Both teams ten points are less eleven times. I'm giving

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01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 1: it to the Bears. Two shutouts in the playoffs, beat

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01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: the Giants twenty one nothing, and then followed that up

1519
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 1: by shutting out the Rams to go to the Super Bowl,

1520
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 1: and then just wipe the floor with the Patriots. I

1521
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: have a soft spot for the eighty five Bears. Walter

1522
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: Payton's my favorite football player of all time and that defense.

1523
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of that defense. Man. They were fun,

1524
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,640
Speaker 1: just Wilbur Marshall, Otis Wilson, Mike Singletary. I mean, you

1525
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: want to talk about a linebacker trio holy Crow. They

1526
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 1: were the only the only place where the Ravens truly

1527
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 1: have an edge on the Bears defense in comparison to theirs,

1528
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,560
Speaker 1: is in the secondary. I think they had a superior secondary.

1529
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 1: But one reason may be revolutionary. Yeah, that's the thing

1530
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 1: was and that's one reason why I kind of detract

1531
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 1: from the Bears is because they had this Bears front

1532
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 1: that nobody had seen and it was a little bit

1533
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: like arka gun no huddle. Nobody had an answer for

1534
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 1: it yet, but very soon people had to stop playing

1535
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 1: it because there were answers offensively that they couldn't they

1536
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: couldn't get. And I think because of the uniqueness of

1537
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 1: it and because it was, uh, you know, like it

1538
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 1: was just a technological advancement that teams had to get

1539
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: their mind around first. I think that that gave them

1540
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: an edge that was technological rather than ability wise or

1541
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 1: scheme wise. Scheme wise. Maybe there was an edge there,

1542
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 1: but as soon as teams figured out the protection against

1543
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: the Bears front, people stopped playing it. So that's one

1544
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:11,759
Speaker 1: reason why I think I take away from the Bears

1545
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: because it's not a timeless defense. The Ravens defense, it

1546
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: would be as good in nineteen eighty five as it

1547
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: would be in twenty twenty, let alone the year two thousand.

1548
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 1: That is a timeless defense because they were solid everywhere,

1549
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 1: and they they had answers for everything. They beat you

1550
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 1: with technique and discipline and athletic ability. Not with a

1551
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: cockama I say cacamamia because I don't want to be disrespectful,

1552
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: but a new and different idea. It was the players

1553
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 1: and their execution that beat you with the Ravens defense.

1554
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 1: With the Bears, it was a novel front that nobody

1555
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:47,759
Speaker 1: had seen before, as much as it was the ability

1556
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 1: of the players. You do have more Hall of Famers

1557
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: from that Bears defense, though I think it's because it's

1558
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,480
Speaker 1: myth You got Hampton, you got Dent, you got Singletary.

1559
01:26:56,240 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: It's a mythical defense, no question about it. And and

1560
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,320
Speaker 1: it's a right up one year the eighty five because

1561
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,759
Speaker 1: they say it's eighty five Bears, because the technological advantage

1562
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: went away quick. It wasn't the steel Curtain of the

1563
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:11,599
Speaker 1: seventies or they won four of them. And the year

1564
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: before eighty four they had seventy two sex which is

1565
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:19,160
Speaker 1: still the league record. Right, so they had this season. Yeah,

1566
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,640
Speaker 1: they had a stretch there where the Bears were impossible

1567
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: to play against. And you think, well, why didn't they win?

1568
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:27,879
Speaker 1: Why didn't they win more Super Bowls with that defense?

1569
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,879
Speaker 1: And you can say, well, it's not the defense's fault, okay,

1570
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 1: but you know that. And the Ravens ray Lewis won

1571
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls and they were what fifteen years apart,

1572
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 1: twelve years apart, something like that. They won the two

1573
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,839
Speaker 1: thousand Super Bowl and what the two thousand and fourteen

1574
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 1: Super Bowls something like that. That's a huge stretch and

1575
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 1: they played phenomenal defense for the entire career of Ray

1576
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: Lewis and I So, I think that's why I like

1577
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,919
Speaker 1: the two thousand Ravens defense better because it was timeless

1578
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 1: rather than novel. All right, there you go, briny H.

1579
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 1: We have time. No, we gotta go to a break.

1580
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: Steve Chasker, Chris Brown, We're coming back. David Baker coming

1581
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: up to the top of the hour. This is One

1582
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: Bills Live on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One

1583
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 1: Bills Live. Keep backer Chris Brown here till three o'clock.

1584
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: Coming up in just a minute is the director of

1585
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame, David Baker. He's the guy.

1586
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 1: He won't recognize him. He's the guy that announces and

1587
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:32,080
Speaker 1: goes out personally and welcomes all the new inductees into

1588
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. He's the guy that lets him

1589
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 1: know that, yeah, you got in on the vote. He

1590
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,680
Speaker 1: does a really nice job with that. He's knocked on

1591
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 1: more hotel room doors than anybody. There's a joke there somewhere,

1592
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's the guy. So he's coming up right

1593
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: at the top of the ar. It'll be fun and

1594
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. That Hall of Fame opened up

1595
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 1: last yesterday and there's fifty seven year history. They've never

1596
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: been closed on consecutive days until this year twenty twenty.

1597
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: The pandemic closed him down for three months, but only

1598
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: up until yesterday. They opened their doors. And we'll ask

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01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: him about that. Steve task Or Chris Brown coming to

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01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:06,800
Speaker 1: back at you after the top of the hour. Stay

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01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: with us. This is one Bill's Live presented by Kalid

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01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 1: to Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one

1603
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 1: of Bill's Lives, Steve Tasker, Chris Brown here in Buffalo,

1604
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 1: where please be joined on the line now by the

1605
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 1: president of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, David Baker. David,

1606
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Chris Brown here in Buffalo, And I got

1607
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:30,400
Speaker 1: to ask you the first thing we ask all our guests.

1608
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 1: How are you doing during the pandemic? Are you staying safe? Absolutely?

1609
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:38,679
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I think I'm about thirty

1610
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 1: pounds heavier than I ever was before, you know, so

1611
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,240
Speaker 1: you know I'm more than safe. I am well fed.

1612
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 1: And when you're four hundred pounds and you gain thirty pounds.

1613
01:29:48,439 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 1: That's not easy. Well, I gotta congratulate you. I know,

1614
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: I didn't realize until we start, we knew we were

1615
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,479
Speaker 1: gonna have you on that. In the fifty seven year

1616
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 1: history of the National Football League, the Pro Football Hall

1617
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:01,360
Speaker 1: of Fame, I'm sorry, the Pro Football Hall of Fame

1618
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 1: has never been closed consecutive days until the pandemic of

1619
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. And I got to congratulate you on opening

1620
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 1: your doors just yesterday once again. Well, I greatly appreciate that,

1621
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 1: and it's a special moment for us because that's really

1622
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 1: our second you know, opening in six decades. But we're

1623
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 1: now open for inspiration and fans can come on back

1624
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,479
Speaker 1: and get their fix and connection to the game that

1625
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,479
Speaker 1: they've missed, you know, without sports during this time. But

1626
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 1: it's a safe and secure environment where you know, there's

1627
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,920
Speaker 1: all kinds of procedures that we've gone through, and we

1628
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 1: had a number of fans through yesterday. It not only

1629
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 1: did not not distract from their inspiration in their experience,

1630
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,719
Speaker 1: it probably added to it so that they're safe, secure.

1631
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 1: You know, it's very low risk and a lot of

1632
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 1: good things happening here. And yesterday was certainly a great

1633
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 1: day for us. So in trying to it's like you

1634
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 1: need crystal ball here, David, with respect to the things

1635
01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: you have on your schedule, with respect to Enshrineman weekend,

1636
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 1: you know the Hall of Fame welcome dinner that you

1637
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,240
Speaker 1: have for all of the new inductees the night before.

1638
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:16,000
Speaker 1: Um so I read that. You know, you guys took

1639
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:19,439
Speaker 1: those steps because you have upwards of five contingency plans.

1640
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah, we do. There were some people

1641
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 1: who thought that we weren't going to play until Steve

1642
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,479
Speaker 1: Casker's in the Hall of Fame, and that's just a

1643
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: rumor out there. It's not true. You know, we made

1644
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:36,640
Speaker 1: play before that happened. But I suspect that I'll have

1645
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 1: an opportunity to knocked on Steve's door before too long.

1646
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 1: His name has come up many times. But with respect

1647
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: this year, I appreciate that let's not get ahead of ourselves.

1648
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:53,320
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, you guys, for so many the

1649
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame, it's it's an enormous honor,

1650
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,320
Speaker 1: no question about it. I've been there a number of times,

1651
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 1: and I've been there on induction weekend, which is what

1652
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people. That's their connection to the Hall

1653
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 1: as they see it on TV and they see the

1654
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame Game. It's a rite of passage for

1655
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 1: the sports calendar in our in our country. I know

1656
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 1: you guys take it extremely seriously. What and you are

1657
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 1: still planning and I don't get this. You're still planning

1658
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 1: on having the Hall of Fame game kick off the

1659
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 1: National Football League season in August with fans and as

1660
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: close to a normal weekend as you possibly can. Is

1661
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 1: that correct? Yeah, that's the plan, and that's what we've

1662
01:32:31,439 --> 01:32:34,880
Speaker 1: worked towards because that would be the optimum situation. Uh.

1663
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 1: You know when we when everything started to shut down

1664
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 1: on March eleventh, I think it was a Wednesday night

1665
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:45,560
Speaker 1: and I was traveling, but you know, the n C

1666
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 1: two A canceled March Madness, and the NBA suspended their season,

1667
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:54,439
Speaker 1: NASCAR U you know, stopped racing, and Major League Baseball, um,

1668
01:32:54,720 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, canceled spring training, and we put our tickets

1669
01:32:58,280 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 1: on sale they've been predetermined weeks before. About thirty six

1670
01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: hours later on Friday morning at nine o'clock, and I

1671
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 1: was a little more than concerned about that. But interestingly enough,

1672
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 1: our tickets for the Hall of Fame game between the

1673
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:19,000
Speaker 1: Steelers and the Cowboys sold out in twenty two minutes.

1674
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 1: The enshrinement itself, which we kind of suspended sales on

1675
01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 1: shortly thereafter, had fourteen thousand of the twenty three thousand

1676
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 1: seats here, So it clearly if we'd gone one more day,

1677
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 1: it would have sold out. And so there's a lot

1678
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,600
Speaker 1: of people that are looking for some football. But you know,

1679
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 1: the NFL, their official position is that they're planning to

1680
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 1: have a full season and start on time, and if

1681
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: that's the case, we're going to be ready. But we

1682
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 1: also we had five different contingency plans, including a virtual enshrinement,

1683
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:56,120
Speaker 1: so we're prepared if an audible is called. And what

1684
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 1: We're not going to do anything that is unsafe for

1685
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 1: any of our Hall of Famers or our fans or

1686
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 1: you know, the forty eight hundred volunteers that put this

1687
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 1: thing on. But we have you know, we're probably down

1688
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 1: now to three alternatives, which is continue on August fifty six,

1689
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 1: seventh or eighth. We might delay it if the preseason

1690
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 1: gets shortened, or even put it back to uh, you know,

1691
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 1: without the game on September seventeenth, which would be the

1692
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: hundredth anniversary of the league here the centennial celebration, and

1693
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 1: there's even an option to go all the way into

1694
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 1: next year and combine it with the class of twenty one,

1695
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:39,719
Speaker 1: which had include you know, as likely to include Peyton

1696
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 1: Manning and possibly Charles Woodson and Calvin Johnson. So we'd

1697
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 1: like to think that if if that happened in the

1698
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 1: worst of situations, we'd have twice the fun in twenty one. Yeah,

1699
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 1: and not only that, David, there are some unique options here,

1700
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 1: you know, as you mentioned with the centennial celebration slated

1701
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 1: from mid September, that that's an all two convenient place

1702
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 1: to move it if you needed to, because that's when

1703
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 1: the ten senior pool selections are being inducted, right, That's

1704
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 1: exactly right. So we're we're in a situation where we've

1705
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: got the luxury of you know, in the Hall of

1706
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,639
Speaker 1: Fame game being sold out and you know, very close

1707
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,560
Speaker 1: to a sellout. If we reopened it, it would be

1708
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:22,719
Speaker 1: sold out, I think in a day for the ensirement,

1709
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:26,280
Speaker 1: So we've got the luxury to wait a little bit longer,

1710
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: and you know, I think for the pandemic. We're all

1711
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 1: in the situation where we're in this together, and we

1712
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 1: know more today than we did thirty days ago. And

1713
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 1: right now I think we're about fifty five days away

1714
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,200
Speaker 1: from the game, and we'll know more in thirty days

1715
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 1: about that. But you know, we are whatever play is

1716
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 1: going to be called, We at the Pro Football Hall

1717
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:52,160
Speaker 1: of Fame, we're going to be ready and we're going

1718
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 1: to Our mission, which we take very seriously, is to

1719
01:35:56,439 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 1: honor the heroes of the game, to preserve its history,

1720
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:03,560
Speaker 1: promoted values, and celebrate excellence everywhere. And we want in

1721
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 1: honoring these guys that are shrined, we want it to

1722
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: truly be excellent. You know. You know when we were

1723
01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:15,679
Speaker 1: talking about Steve earlier. You know, even though Steve doesn't

1724
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 1: have a bronze bust right now, you do have an

1725
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 1: archive here. Every guy who ever played this game for

1726
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: a week, much less a career as illustrious as your own,

1727
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 1: has an archive here. And we can pull that archive

1728
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,760
Speaker 1: and you can see what's in it. You can add

1729
01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 1: to it, so that generations from now people will not

1730
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 1: only know, you know the player you were and what

1731
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: you did and what your stats were, but they can

1732
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:44,240
Speaker 1: also know a little bit about the man you are

1733
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:48,240
Speaker 1: and what you believe, and so we take a legacy

1734
01:36:48,680 --> 01:36:50,720
Speaker 1: of these players. And by the way, we also have

1735
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:55,879
Speaker 1: very importantly the Black College Pro or the Black College

1736
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame here as well for all those players

1737
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 1: that went to historical black colleges. But we take it

1738
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 1: very very seriously, and we want to make sure that

1739
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 1: these guys are honored in a way that is is

1740
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 1: so deserving to their achievement. We're speaking to David Baker,

1741
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 1: President of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. What is

1742
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:23,599
Speaker 1: the situation in Ohio now with regards to returning to normalcy?

1743
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 1: But you know, I think Ohio is pretty much open,

1744
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 1: but I would say it's on a limited basis. You know,

1745
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 1: here at the Hall of Fame. You know, right now

1746
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 1: our capacity is significantly above eight hundred customers, but we're

1747
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:41,160
Speaker 1: only allowing eight hundred at a time. But I think

1748
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 1: everything pretty much about ninety eight percent of Ohio has

1749
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 1: been reopened. But sometimes it's on a limited basis, and

1750
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 1: everybody's keeping social distancing and everybody is requested to wear

1751
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 1: a mask, and you know, we're all doing the hygiene.

1752
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,040
Speaker 1: And you know here at the Hall, we have a

1753
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,960
Speaker 1: touchless hand sanitizers. We give you a stylus, so that

1754
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: if you want to touch anything that's interactive, you can

1755
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 1: do so with that stylus and throw it away when

1756
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:12,960
Speaker 1: you're here. But there's lots of procedures that people have

1757
01:38:14,160 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 1: learned and putting in. But I would say Ohio was reopening.

1758
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 1: We were we were in a situation where our governor

1759
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 1: took early action and was the first to close down schools.

1760
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 1: And you know what we've learned in Ohio. We have

1761
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 1: a little bit more than two thousand deaths, about seventy

1762
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 1: percent of those happened in nursing homes. So we've learned

1763
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 1: a lot about congregate situations here. And we now have

1764
01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 1: Cedar Point, which is a a big theme park here.

1765
01:38:44,360 --> 01:38:48,200
Speaker 1: It'll be opening up soon. So we're getting back at it,

1766
01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 1: which I think is is really really healthy. We were getting,

1767
01:38:52,880 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 1: you know, forty or fifty calls a day here at

1768
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame asking when we were

1769
01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 1: going to open up, because again, I think people are

1770
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:05,000
Speaker 1: looking for something positive right now. And David, you mentioned congregations,

1771
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 1: and you know, the gold Jacket dinner is a big

1772
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 1: part of that weekend, as you know, when the new

1773
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 1: inductees are kind of paraded in front of all the

1774
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 1: existing inductees, and it's a very moving and emotional type thing,

1775
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 1: but it's also enclosed and inclosed quarters. Have you had

1776
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:26,879
Speaker 1: as part of your contingency plans to consider different venues

1777
01:39:27,160 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 1: open air venues as it closed to closed venues, reduced

1778
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 1: capacity in those kinds of things. Yeah, we have looked

1779
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 1: at all of that. Frankly, I mean there's been enormous

1780
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 1: analysis financially and operationally that goes into these decisions. And

1781
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 1: understand that these decisions aren't just mine alone. They are

1782
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:52,000
Speaker 1: our board is very active in this. And it's a

1783
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 1: situation where we have seventeen different partners that participate in

1784
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 1: our festivities, not the least of which are NBC, ESPN

1785
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: and the NFL network, but certainly the NFL and the

1786
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 1: Chamber of Commerce, and our visitors in Convention Bureau, and uh,

1787
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 1: you know are our public safety forces, which have done

1788
01:40:13,479 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 1: a wonderful job here every year these events have been

1789
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:20,000
Speaker 1: put on. But it's uh, you know, we've gone through

1790
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 1: all of that. We've we I can you know, I

1791
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 1: can tell you, uh, you know pretty much you know,

1792
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 1: to the you know, to the exact number of how

1793
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 1: many if you were to put somebody at our stadium

1794
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 1: that we're six feet apart, you're going to get you know,

1795
01:40:33,880 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 1: a little over three thousand people in a stadium this

1796
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:40,640
Speaker 1: twenty three thousand. We've looked at making sure we're outdoors

1797
01:40:40,680 --> 01:40:44,759
Speaker 1: instead of indoors if we're necessary. So we've we've looked

1798
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 1: at all those options. Uh. We we've looked also at

1799
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:52,320
Speaker 1: virtual options. I mean, frankly, I'm not a big fan

1800
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:54,479
Speaker 1: of the virtual option. I think the NFL did a

1801
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 1: spectacular job of the virtual draft and it was something

1802
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 1: we all needed in quarantine to celebrate some good news.

1803
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:09,840
Speaker 1: But I think for us and what we do, you know,

1804
01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:14,759
Speaker 1: the journey that these guys make to get to Canton,

1805
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 1: Ohio is really elite. There's three hundred and thirty million

1806
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 1: young men and now women that have played this game.

1807
01:41:22,120 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 1: There's five million that played it in college. There's only

1808
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 1: twenty nine thousand that ever got to play it, coach it,

1809
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 1: or officiate it like Steve did. And of all those,

1810
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:36,799
Speaker 1: there's only three hundred sixty five who have a bronze

1811
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 1: bust in Canton, Ohio right now, and there's only one

1812
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy six who are living gold jackets. So

1813
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:47,320
Speaker 1: This is an elite journey. And I will tell you

1814
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 1: that when I knock on the doors of these guys

1815
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 1: and you can see it in their eyes or fans.

1816
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 1: Some fans got to see me go on the set

1817
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:59,559
Speaker 1: of CBS to tell coach Bill Kawer or on Fox

1818
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 1: Slash Year to tell coach Jimmy Johnson. And when they're

1819
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:07,080
Speaker 1: here and this, they're not thinking about how much money

1820
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 1: they made, or their trophies or their records. They're thinking

1821
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 1: about their mom who drove them to pack practice, and

1822
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,559
Speaker 1: they're high school coach that inspired them, or their dad

1823
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:21,760
Speaker 1: that didn't let them quit, their teammates that help get

1824
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 1: them here, And I think celebrating with those who helped

1825
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 1: you get here is a big part of this. There's

1826
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 1: a parade here in Canton that gets about three hundred

1827
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 1: thousand people, which makes it one of the fifth biggest

1828
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:38,400
Speaker 1: parades in the United States, which is pretty unique when

1829
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:41,320
Speaker 1: you think about the Rose Parade in Pasadena or the

1830
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 1: Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade in New York. But you know,

1831
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 1: we want to make sure that is that kind of event.

1832
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:54,160
Speaker 1: We're going to make sure that it's safe and the

1833
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 1: people that are involved in that as our you know

1834
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 1: doctor Amy Acton, who's our director of public health here

1835
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:05,760
Speaker 1: in Ohio, the governor himself, Mike Dwine, and then of

1836
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 1: course you know our partners at the NFL. We're speaking

1837
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:11,680
Speaker 1: to David Baker, the president of the Pro Football Hall

1838
01:43:11,680 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 1: of Fame. Are you going to for lack of a

1839
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 1: better word, scout other venues like in like NASCAR, like

1840
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 1: the NBA and the bubble kind of system that they're

1841
01:43:21,920 --> 01:43:24,799
Speaker 1: using down their Major League Baseball and the truncated schedule

1842
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 1: they're putting together maybe with spring training. Do you go

1843
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:32,000
Speaker 1: physically to these venues? Will you send people to these

1844
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:34,479
Speaker 1: venues to find out, you know, the ways you need

1845
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:36,400
Speaker 1: to do it. Are you going to scout it? Are

1846
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 1: you going to have a relationship with those leagues that

1847
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 1: will help you stage the Hall of Fame game as

1848
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 1: efficiently as possible with as many people as possible, and

1849
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:50,360
Speaker 1: or will you just kind of rely on what your

1850
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 1: own state government will tell you to do and allow

1851
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 1: you to do. Well. No, We're we're picking up best

1852
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: practice this from everybody, and our state is working with

1853
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 1: this on that, and I think they're open to hearing

1854
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:06,879
Speaker 1: that stuff. It's been difficult to travel or going to anything.

1855
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 1: We have kind of kept tabs or with other sports.

1856
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 1: Uh you know, you know, we are voracious collectors of

1857
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 1: information here at the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and

1858
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:22,559
Speaker 1: so we have lots and lots of information from state

1859
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 1: of the art healthcare officials, government leader leaders, what other

1860
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:30,479
Speaker 1: leagues are doing. I'm a little bit personally fortunate because

1861
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 1: my son is one of the directors of broadcasting at NASCAR,

1862
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 1: and he's on the Coronavirus committee, and so we've been

1863
01:44:39,080 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: exchanging information, and you know, we get information from the NFL,

1864
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 1: and I think all of us in the industry want

1865
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 1: to help each other with the best practices. We wanted

1866
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 1: to be safe, we wanted to get back to action. Yeah,

1867
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 1: I think that there's it's not just entertainment. But frankly,

1868
01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:01,600
Speaker 1: I have a personal view that American needs some of

1869
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:05,360
Speaker 1: what sports teaches right now about what it means to

1870
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 1: huddle up and what it means to sacrifice for each other,

1871
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 1: and what it means to compete and get up when

1872
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:14,559
Speaker 1: you get knocked down. So we're staying in close contact

1873
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 1: with anyone and everyone we can. My sons and the

1874
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:21,160
Speaker 1: guys at NASCAR have been great in this. They were

1875
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:23,519
Speaker 1: really kind of the first ones out of the box

1876
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 1: with their races without fans. David Baker, thank you so

1877
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:31,040
Speaker 1: much for joining us, good luck with your endeavor is

1878
01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:33,760
Speaker 1: to bring us the Hall of Fame experience to all

1879
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:36,240
Speaker 1: those people who use it as a right of passage,

1880
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: and of certainly to all the inductees. Thank you for

1881
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 1: everything you do at the Hall of Fame, and thank

1882
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 1: you for joining us here today. Guys. Thanks for what

1883
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 1: you're doing. Buffalo is an incredible sports down and you

1884
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:50,839
Speaker 1: know we hope to see you all here in Canton

1885
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:54,759
Speaker 1: very soon. Take care of Thank you. David Baker, President

1886
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:56,640
Speaker 1: of the Pro Football Hall of Fame. He has some

1887
01:45:56,760 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 1: really insightful stuff. Is to you know, not only what

1888
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:02,720
Speaker 1: makes the Hall of Fame, but also the huge logistical

1889
01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 1: problem and all the issues that they're facing trying to

1890
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 1: get what is really a kind of, for lack of

1891
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:12,400
Speaker 1: a better word, a sacred weekend in the pro football calendar.

1892
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:15,240
Speaker 1: And there's no mistaken that the devil's going to be

1893
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 1: in the details. Steve and I was glad that he

1894
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,560
Speaker 1: got into some of those details with us, you know,

1895
01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 1: knowing the capacity of the stadium there is twenty three

1896
01:46:24,160 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 1: thousand and with proper social distancing, you're only seating three thousand.

1897
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of particulars that these guys have

1898
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:38,160
Speaker 1: to hammer out and have in place because the amount

1899
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:40,719
Speaker 1: of warning could be minimal and you have to spring

1900
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:43,840
Speaker 1: into action, and you better have things laid out with

1901
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:46,720
Speaker 1: each one of those contingencies so you can go from

1902
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 1: Plan A to Plan B seamlessly and do the best

1903
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 1: you can to execute it as best as possible under

1904
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:56,320
Speaker 1: the restrictions that we're all living right now. And I

1905
01:46:56,479 --> 01:46:59,479
Speaker 1: think fortunately for the Hall of Fame, there are some

1906
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 1: of these extra mile markers through the course of the

1907
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:05,799
Speaker 1: end of the summer, especially if the preseason gets shortened,

1908
01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 1: that will give them two more weeks to play with

1909
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 1: there to stage the Hall of Fame game. And then

1910
01:47:12,439 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 1: let's just say that doesn't happen, or it can happen.

1911
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:17,680
Speaker 1: Then you can push it all the way to mid

1912
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 1: September because they have that centennial celebration with the ten

1913
01:47:22,120 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 1: senior panel people that are going in. You just add

1914
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 1: your induction class to them and just do one big

1915
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:30,800
Speaker 1: giant event in mid September. If you have to wait

1916
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 1: that long, Yeah, there's options exactly. The option is to

1917
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 1: do it that way, But that would be without a

1918
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,840
Speaker 1: preseason game to accompany the entire weekend, which is always

1919
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 1: kind of the centerpiece of the weekend, along with the

1920
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 1: induction ceremony, of course, But you think about the three

1921
01:47:45,280 --> 01:47:47,600
Speaker 1: thousand you've been to that stadium and as I have

1922
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:50,719
Speaker 1: a number of times, nice little football stadium, no question about,

1923
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 1: a very compact, very efficients perfect. But if you're gonna

1924
01:47:55,560 --> 01:47:58,240
Speaker 1: put three thousand people in that, and let's say for

1925
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 1: any stadium, but that stadium in particular, three thousand people

1926
01:48:00,880 --> 01:48:05,519
Speaker 1: inside of it socially distanced, you're almost gonna have to

1927
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 1: have three thousand ushers and security people to make it happen.

1928
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 1: You gotta have every exit covered. You gotta have every

1929
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 1: aisle covered, you gotta have every section covered. You gotta

1930
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 1: have every gate covered. You gotta have every interest in egress.

1931
01:48:20,479 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 1: You gotta have somebody that's a bathroom you monitor so

1932
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,600
Speaker 1: they don't let too many people in the bathrooms and

1933
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:29,519
Speaker 1: congregate and keep it. You're gonna have to have three

1934
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:32,960
Speaker 1: thousand volunteers at least, you have concessions of as many

1935
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:34,719
Speaker 1: fans as you can let in there. At three thousand,

1936
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:36,560
Speaker 1: let's say you're gonna have to have at least that

1937
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,720
Speaker 1: many volunteers just to get the whole thing to run

1938
01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:44,599
Speaker 1: smooth and socially distanced. It's amazing. It's an amazing challenge.

1939
01:48:44,640 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 1: And I asked him about the cold Jacket dinner because

1940
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, you talk to anybody that's been inducted, and

1941
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,839
Speaker 1: as as proud as they are to give their induction

1942
01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 1: speech and to be presented, it seems like that's what

1943
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 1: sticks with a lot of them more than anything else,

1944
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 1: because that is like the official welcome to the club moment.

1945
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:06,759
Speaker 1: You know, you are a Hall of Famer. Here's your jacket.

1946
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 1: Enjoy tomorrow. But it's in a very intimate setting in

1947
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 1: a closed area where you just can't do that under

1948
01:49:16,080 --> 01:49:20,599
Speaker 1: the current restrictions. So I have to believe that they'll

1949
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:23,559
Speaker 1: probably have some kind of outdoor venue as a backup

1950
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:27,160
Speaker 1: that they have covered with, you know, whether it's poll

1951
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 1: tense or whatever it is, but it's they're gonna have

1952
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 1: to have an alternate option, and it's probably gonna have

1953
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:36,800
Speaker 1: to be open air outside because let's remember this, Steve,

1954
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:39,479
Speaker 1: that gold Jack at dinner is going to be attended

1955
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 1: by a lot of people who are in the high

1956
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:45,600
Speaker 1: risk category for COVID they're older. So good point. I

1957
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:51,920
Speaker 1: mean you're talking about so as you said, as he

1958
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 1: told us, one hundred and seventy six guys are the

1959
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 1: only ones alive in the Hall of Fame. And the

1960
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:57,600
Speaker 1: new guys too, even the new guys too, are the

1961
01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:00,360
Speaker 1: ones who are the older guys, I mean old guys now.

1962
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 1: These guys are what forty, They're in their thirties and forties,

1963
01:50:03,439 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 1: you know, they're getting in. And but the rest of

1964
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:09,759
Speaker 1: those Hall of Famers, you know, Joe Namath, Roger, Roger Stubber,

1965
01:50:09,840 --> 01:50:12,840
Speaker 1: all these guys are older guys now, Terry Bradshaw, Um,

1966
01:50:13,000 --> 01:50:16,160
Speaker 1: even Jimmy Johnson, the new who are new in Jimmy's

1967
01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 1: a new inductee. Um, those are guys that, um, they're

1968
01:50:21,640 --> 01:50:24,400
Speaker 1: in that category. Like you know, I'm fifty eight. You

1969
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:26,920
Speaker 1: know I would probably be slip into that category, right.

1970
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:28,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm my kid. I got my kids talking

1971
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:30,640
Speaker 1: like that now, you know they're saying, well, mom and

1972
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 1: dad are the ones we're kind of worried about. I'm like,

1973
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:37,160
Speaker 1: what you know, But it's true. So that crowd is

1974
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 1: gonna have to be hyper sensitive to the risks involved

1975
01:50:42,120 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 1: in in that gold Jacket dinner in the inductee in

1976
01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:49,560
Speaker 1: the Mayor's dinner on a Friday. Uh. The luncheon that

1977
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 1: the inductees luncheon, the Hall of Famers luncheon that is

1978
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:56,080
Speaker 1: private and doors. Yeah, and let's not forget this. A

1979
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 1: lot of the inductees like to rent out space on

1980
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:03,000
Speaker 1: the grounds to have their own little post ceremony party.

1981
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:08,599
Speaker 1: Oh yes, it's big, Jim. The private parties are huge. Yeah,

1982
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 1: but they're gonna have they're gonna have to have restrictions also, yes, yes,

1983
01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:15,720
Speaker 1: so absolutely, and they're gonna have to be monitor They're

1984
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to have people that will do that. Now. Usually,

1985
01:51:18,400 --> 01:51:21,879
Speaker 1: like when you have a guy like Sirianss Barry Sanders,

1986
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 1: or an Andre Reid, or a Jim Kelly Bruce Smith

1987
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:27,240
Speaker 1: or the Hall of Famers on our team, the club

1988
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:29,639
Speaker 1: kind of moves in and says, okay, we're gonna take

1989
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 1: care of a lot of the logistics for yourself. So

1990
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:33,439
Speaker 1: they would have people in place to say, okay, you

1991
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 1: can now there's too many people in. You have to

1992
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 1: wait here for a minute and stand socially distanced. Or

1993
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 1: here's some masks for you, here's some here's a Hall

1994
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 1: of Fame mask with number seventy eight on it. You

1995
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:43,800
Speaker 1: know a phase, you know what I mean, they'll have

1996
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:48,840
Speaker 1: stuff like that in place for this year. So most

1997
01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:50,559
Speaker 1: of that is taken care of like that. But then

1998
01:51:50,600 --> 01:51:54,599
Speaker 1: you have others who you know aren't so well orchestrated

1999
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:57,599
Speaker 1: or behind that like that. So you have players maybe

2000
01:51:57,640 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 1: who played for three different teams in a Hall of

2001
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,639
Speaker 1: career doesn't happen a lot, but it does. So it's huge,

2002
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:08,280
Speaker 1: huge challenges. Like everything else, it's probably going to look

2003
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:11,720
Speaker 1: a whole lot different than it used to. It will,

2004
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 1: it will. Indeed, Steve Tasker, Chris Brown, we're gonna take

2005
01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:16,040
Speaker 1: a break. Coming up to after the break, We've got

2006
01:52:16,400 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 1: NFL true false, We've got what do we learn, and

2007
01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 1: we're gonna recap the Twitter poll as well. This is

2008
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio, brought to you by Kalida Health and

2009
01:52:24,120 --> 01:52:35,360
Speaker 1: this is One Bills Live. Welcome back to One Bill's Lives.

2010
01:52:35,439 --> 01:52:37,719
Speaker 1: Keef Tasker Law with Chris Brown. We've got We would

2011
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:39,839
Speaker 1: like to thank David Baker, president of the Pro Football

2012
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:42,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, for joining us. Last segment. If you

2013
01:52:42,240 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 1: want to listen to any portion of that, you can

2014
01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 1: do it on Buffalo bills dot Com, the Bills app, Spotify,

2015
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 1: Google Play, Apple Podcasts. We also have a Twitter poll

2016
01:52:50,280 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 1: that we've been keeping track of throughout the show, and

2017
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 1: it's if the fans are not allowed to attend training camp,

2018
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,400
Speaker 1: what's the biggest thing you'll miss about going to training camp?

2019
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:01,400
Speaker 1: Fifty four percent of you say, look an up close

2020
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:03,680
Speaker 1: look at the team. Thirty percent of you say I

2021
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:05,680
Speaker 1: would like to watch position battles because I have a

2022
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:07,640
Speaker 1: little general manager inside of me and I want to

2023
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 1: let him out. Ten percent of your eleven percent say

2024
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 1: autographs and photos, and six percent of you have something

2025
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 1: else to say. I've got a lot of feedback Brownie

2026
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 1: on this particular Twitter poll because I think it strikes

2027
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 1: a chord with people. Yeah, this is another Michael who's

2028
01:53:23,479 --> 01:53:26,439
Speaker 1: also here on the tweet sheet. He says, for myself,

2029
01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:30,679
Speaker 1: I will miss seeing the team firsthand as I work

2030
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:33,679
Speaker 1: for the state and when games are on, I'm usually

2031
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,639
Speaker 1: in a plow and can't go to games, so training

2032
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 1: camp is my in person games. And he's not the

2033
01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:43,040
Speaker 1: first person to kind of say that this is for

2034
01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 1: a lot of people the opportunity to see the team

2035
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 1: up close and personal. And now it's likely to not

2036
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:52,439
Speaker 1: be there. It is different when you get a chance

2037
01:53:52,520 --> 01:53:57,240
Speaker 1: to see. But even the guys on TV, they look,

2038
01:53:57,479 --> 01:53:59,280
Speaker 1: you know, kind of you don't get a sense of

2039
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 1: the scale of game when you see it on television,

2040
01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:03,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You can't see how big

2041
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:05,280
Speaker 1: these guys are, how fast they move. I've told a

2042
01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, and I was a sideline

2043
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 1: reporter for all those years and played the game, you

2044
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 1: just can't get a sense of the magnitude and the

2045
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:16,400
Speaker 1: ferocity and the speed of the game, particularly the size

2046
01:54:16,439 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 1: and speed of the game when you watch it on television.

2047
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:21,160
Speaker 1: Certainly it's great to watch. The athletes are great and

2048
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:23,640
Speaker 1: it's fun. But when you get down and watch on

2049
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 1: the sidelines, I've told a lot of people, don't ever

2050
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:29,320
Speaker 1: do it. You'll never look at this game the same

2051
01:54:29,360 --> 01:54:32,600
Speaker 1: way again. It'll never satisfy you the way being there

2052
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:34,720
Speaker 1: on the say you've done it, Brownie, I mean down

2053
01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:38,040
Speaker 1: you get down there, and man, they're big, they're fast,

2054
01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 1: and the intensity is force of the collisions. Yeah, it

2055
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 1: is amazing to watch, so I tell And that's why

2056
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 1: people kind of get a sense of that when they

2057
01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:48,120
Speaker 1: go down stand next to these guys. It's like, oh

2058
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:52,200
Speaker 1: my gosh, this guy's really big, right, and they see

2059
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:54,480
Speaker 1: him moving. It does give you a different sense of

2060
01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 1: the game, right, and I think people get a big

2061
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 1: kick out of it. Yeah, I don't think there's any

2062
01:54:58,640 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 1: question about that. It's the force of the collisions. The

2063
01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 1: first time that I saw it down there that close,

2064
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:08,600
Speaker 1: where I was just like, whoa this is Uh. This

2065
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 1: does not come across on the television as well as

2066
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 1: it does right here in front of my face. You

2067
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 1: can't get a sense of how big those guys are. Certainly,

2068
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 1: you know there's a different size in the huddles to

2069
01:55:16,680 --> 01:55:18,400
Speaker 1: I'll give you one story before we go to NFL

2070
01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:21,720
Speaker 1: true fall. Sorry, So I'm playing my first year in

2071
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 1: the NFL. Actually a second year started my second years

2072
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 1: eighty six. So I started the year as an oiler

2073
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:28,800
Speaker 1: and ended up as a Buffalo bill right. Jerry Glanville,

2074
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:31,400
Speaker 1: who's still one of my all time favorite guys, was

2075
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:33,680
Speaker 1: the head coach, and you remember him, right. It takes

2076
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:35,800
Speaker 1: up for Elvis the long the boots and the duster

2077
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 1: on the side of Lange. All right, Okay, all that

2078
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 1: say great to a fun guy, just one of the

2079
01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:44,040
Speaker 1: all time great guys I ever played. For he goes. Listen,

2080
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:46,640
Speaker 1: he goes, I want you when you're on on on

2081
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 1: the field, I want you to come over. Now. You

2082
01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:50,880
Speaker 1: need to stand right next to me all the time.

2083
01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:52,600
Speaker 1: I need you right next to me. He's talking to me,

2084
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, okay, right, okay, yeah yeah, And

2085
01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:58,520
Speaker 1: so I'm thinking, wow, that's kind of cool. Right he

2086
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 1: needs me to because he's got something then for me. Right,

2087
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:04,440
Speaker 1: So you know he doesn't, he says, And here's why

2088
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:08,400
Speaker 1: he goes, because you're short. And when the camera shows

2089
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 1: me on the sidelines, people get the idea that I'm

2090
01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 1: six two because they think all the players are really

2091
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:15,680
Speaker 1: big dudes. So when you and I stand next to

2092
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:18,040
Speaker 1: each other, they'll think we're all we're both really big.

2093
01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:24,120
Speaker 1: That's that's the kind of sense you get from the

2094
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:26,440
Speaker 1: guys on TV and again and how it really is

2095
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:29,840
Speaker 1: on the field, right, this is what Lanville is worried about. Well,

2096
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 1: not not on game day, but still it's pretty funny.

2097
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:37,040
Speaker 1: It's pretty fun to be right, all right. So there's

2098
01:56:37,080 --> 01:56:40,000
Speaker 1: that you're ready for True false, Brownie, I'm always ready.

2099
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:42,160
Speaker 1: All right, Here we go NFL. True False brought to

2100
01:56:42,200 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 1: you by Yancy's fancy New York's artisan cheese. Peyton hillis

2101
01:56:45,880 --> 01:56:47,200
Speaker 1: and I don't know if a lot of people remember

2102
01:56:47,200 --> 01:56:49,080
Speaker 1: who Peyton Hillis is. And this is why he's in

2103
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:52,080
Speaker 1: this question. Peyton hillis the running back in the National

2104
01:56:52,120 --> 01:56:55,280
Speaker 1: Football League. His two thousand penn season may have been

2105
01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:59,200
Speaker 1: the biggest fluke in this fluke season in National Football

2106
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:02,280
Speaker 1: League history. Peyton Hillis ran for almost twelve hundred yards

2107
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 1: as a member of the Browns. Was a two hundred

2108
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:06,920
Speaker 1: and forty pound bruiser. He was a he was a

2109
01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 1: force and that was it. That was his career. He

2110
01:57:11,840 --> 01:57:14,200
Speaker 1: bounced around a little bit and never recreated it. But

2111
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 1: that two thousand and ten season, man oh man, he

2112
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. He's actually on the cover of Madden because

2113
01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:22,640
Speaker 1: of that season, and then a couple of years later

2114
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:23,920
Speaker 1: he was out of the league. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: was the biggest fluke in NFL history or can you

2116
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:29,240
Speaker 1: think of a better, better one? He's up there. I

2117
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:34,200
Speaker 1: feel compelled to go. Robert Griffin, the third um. I

2118
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:35,880
Speaker 1: don't know why. He just kind of sticks out in

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01:57:35,960 --> 01:57:38,320
Speaker 1: my head. Obviously, he got injured in the playoff. We

2120
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 1: got injured, came back too soon, got injured again and

2121
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:45,520
Speaker 1: I don't think he's been a starter ever again. Um,

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01:57:46,040 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 1: so he was kind of a big flash in the

2123
01:57:48,360 --> 01:57:52,840
Speaker 1: pan for me. Peyton Hills is certainly a good one too. Mccowski.

2124
01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:58,520
Speaker 1: Mccowski with the package. Miskowski, Yeah, Miskowski, he was, Um yeah,

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01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:03,600
Speaker 1: he had three yard what's that? I think isn't Masikowski

2126
01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 1: from around here? Yeah? I think he's a Lackawanna kid. Yeah,

2127
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:13,640
Speaker 1: or well, I know that jaws Is. I thought he

2128
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:16,880
Speaker 1: was Kowski. You know, I was trying to think of

2129
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:20,760
Speaker 1: a Bill's player that would fall into this category. Wow,

2130
01:58:22,040 --> 01:58:26,120
Speaker 1: Carlos Williams man, Wow. Yeah. You know he's trying to

2131
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:30,000
Speaker 1: resurrect his career up in the CFL now with Toronto. Um,

2132
01:58:31,800 --> 01:58:34,880
Speaker 1: I just I mean, he just burst onto the scene,

2133
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:37,640
Speaker 1: didn't he. We had such high hopes for him first

2134
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:39,760
Speaker 1: year with Rex Ryan and that crew. They kept giving

2135
01:58:39,800 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 1: him ball and he was flashed. He flashed some great things, man,

2136
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:45,240
Speaker 1: and then he and then he just ate his way

2137
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:47,840
Speaker 1: out of the show up two hundred and seventy pounds

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Speaker 1: or something. Back together. Well, so he comes to spring camp. Okay,

2139
01:58:52,480 --> 01:58:54,240
Speaker 1: so he's a big kid to begin with. And you

2140
01:58:54,320 --> 01:58:56,960
Speaker 1: were you were the club reporter, so you were right

2141
01:58:57,000 --> 01:58:59,720
Speaker 1: there watching this, right, So, you know he's he's a

2142
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:01,960
Speaker 1: big kid to begin with. I mean he's he's six

2143
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 1: foot two or three, really put together kid. So two

2144
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:09,240
Speaker 1: thirties a good weight for him. Um, he's fit at

2145
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:12,960
Speaker 1: two thirty, Like that's how big he was. So he comes,

2146
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:18,160
Speaker 1: he comes to OTA's and he's got a boiler on him.

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01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:23,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh boy, So I'm you're talking about

2148
01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:26,000
Speaker 1: a gut, right, yeah. I mean it's visible, like you

2149
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:29,600
Speaker 1: can see under the jersey, got love handles. Yeah, So

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01:59:30,160 --> 01:59:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, that's not good. So, uh, come

2151
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:37,440
Speaker 1: to find out he was saying, you know, his wife

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01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 1: was pregnant, she had a kid. He calls it sympathy weight,

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01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:42,920
Speaker 1: this that and the Okay, fine, don't worry about training camp.

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01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:47,560
Speaker 1: I'll be fine. So I you know, I I came

2155
01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:51,440
Speaker 1: to learn that in OTA's he was two fifty. So

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01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:54,960
Speaker 1: he was twenty pounds overweight in OTA's. That's not outrageous,

2157
01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 1: and usually athletes can shed that weight pretty quickly with

2158
01:59:58,640 --> 02:00:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, a dedicated regiment, especially with professional trainers. Six

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02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:06,200
Speaker 1: weeks and made, you'd never know. Right, he shows up

2160
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 1: a training camp and he weighs two fifty three gained

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02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:17,680
Speaker 1: the bound he gained away. It's like, oh boy, this

2162
02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:20,680
Speaker 1: isn't good. So then like the first or second day

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02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:23,080
Speaker 1: of training, obviously he doesn't pass the conditioning test. So

2164
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:28,120
Speaker 1: now he's watching practice. And during one of the practices

2165
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Speaker 1: when he's watching, it's towards the end of practice, and

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02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:35,280
Speaker 1: he's Kyle Williams puts an arm around him and says, hey,

2167
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:37,720
Speaker 1: let's take a lap. So I was like, oh boy,

2168
02:00:37,880 --> 02:00:40,160
Speaker 1: now they got you know, one of the leaders on

2169
02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:42,440
Speaker 1: the team talking to him, trying to set him straight.

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Speaker 1: This said, And I was like, oh boy, this isn't

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Speaker 1: good because he was dynamic that first year, fifth round pick,

2172
02:00:51,800 --> 02:00:53,840
Speaker 1: and he was dynamic. I think, what did he have

2173
02:00:53,960 --> 02:00:56,680
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns in his first seven games? I know he

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Speaker 1: was a complimentary weapon at running back, but man, he

2175
02:01:00,160 --> 02:01:03,200
Speaker 1: was killing That was Lashaw McCoy's first year and then yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was killing it. I mean, just uh was that

2177
02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:10,080
Speaker 1: Lasha McCoy's first year when he was there? I have

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Speaker 1: to check. But twenty fifteen, yeah, yeah, yeah, fifteen. So

2179
02:01:13,920 --> 02:01:17,880
Speaker 1: I had ninety three carries average five point six to carry,

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02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:23,120
Speaker 1: had seven touchdowns rushing, two receiving. He had nine touchdowns

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Speaker 1: on one hundred and four touches. So I mean that's

2182
02:01:28,160 --> 02:01:30,080
Speaker 1: like ten percent of the time just going to the

2183
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Speaker 1: end zone. I'll tell you this, brownie hint. And this

2184
02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:33,880
Speaker 1: is why not for nothing and I want to go

2185
02:01:34,280 --> 02:01:37,160
Speaker 1: too far down this rat hole, biggest fluke season, But

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Speaker 1: you're right as a bill recently, he's it. It goes

2187
02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:42,880
Speaker 1: to show and this is why they do and for

2188
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:44,760
Speaker 1: fans out there, not for nothing, this is why they

2189
02:01:44,840 --> 02:01:49,360
Speaker 1: do those interviews with guys pre draft. You try and

2190
02:01:49,480 --> 02:01:52,080
Speaker 1: find out as much as you can about him. And

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02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:54,760
Speaker 1: you would think on the surface, it's a pretty good

2192
02:01:54,760 --> 02:01:57,400
Speaker 1: answer when you ask you guys, say, hey, what do

2193
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Speaker 1: you want to do? He was, I have always wanted

2194
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 1: to play in the NFL. It's my lifelong dream. I've

2195
02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:06,160
Speaker 1: always wanted to I have worked towards it, and I'm

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02:02:06,320 --> 02:02:10,520
Speaker 1: not going to stop until I play in the NFL. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's kind of what Carlos Williams did. It was his

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Speaker 1: lifelong dream, he worked for and he did it. But

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Speaker 1: here's and here's the thing, and here's why it's so

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02:02:19,960 --> 02:02:22,160
Speaker 1: hard to quantify this stuff. And here's why you need

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Speaker 1: to get really deep into these guys and why they

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02:02:24,280 --> 02:02:31,760
Speaker 1: look once Carlos Williams achieved his lifelong goal of playing

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. He made it. There was no place

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02:02:35,320 --> 02:02:38,160
Speaker 1: for him to go. There was nothing to motivate him.

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02:02:38,200 --> 02:02:43,560
Speaker 1: He'd already he played. Okay, now what he was successful? Yeah,

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02:02:43,640 --> 02:02:46,200
Speaker 1: there's no reason to get up in the morning. There's

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02:02:46,240 --> 02:02:49,320
Speaker 1: no he's he didn't want. His goal wasn't to be

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02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:51,360
Speaker 1: the best football player he could be, because that's kind

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Speaker 1: of never ending, right. You know, I gotta be better

2210
02:02:53,080 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 1: than I was last year. I gotta get the two

2211
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:57,520
Speaker 1: hundred carries this year, I gotta get a thousand yards rushing.

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02:02:57,560 --> 02:02:59,800
Speaker 1: I gotta do you know. None of that was present

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02:03:00,400 --> 02:03:04,760
Speaker 1: for him. He had already achieved all his goals. There

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02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:06,240
Speaker 1: was no reason for him to get out of bed.

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02:03:06,280 --> 02:03:08,160
Speaker 1: There was no fire to be lit under him. There

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02:03:08,240 --> 02:03:10,520
Speaker 1: was no reason for him not to put on twenty

2217
02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:15,440
Speaker 1: five pounds and deadweight. He his motivation had evaporated. And

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Speaker 1: if you're not motivated, you're done. And sadly, he's not

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02:03:20,960 --> 02:03:23,280
Speaker 1: the first and he won't be the last. That's why.

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Speaker 1: That's why these that's why these agents and these players,

2221
02:03:27,760 --> 02:03:30,240
Speaker 1: that's why they gear up for these interviews because they're

2222
02:03:30,240 --> 02:03:32,680
Speaker 1: gonna try and pry open why you're doing it, and

2223
02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:35,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna try and uncover all the warts you have

2224
02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:37,560
Speaker 1: in your psyche and your personality and all that because

2225
02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:41,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna get you. Yet, they're gonna it's gonna get

2226
02:03:41,280 --> 02:03:45,360
Speaker 1: exposed one way or the other. If money, fame, success

2227
02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:47,880
Speaker 1: is gonna change you, how is it gonna change you?

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Speaker 1: Because there's some guys that will motivate even more. Some

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02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 1: guys will have it and it happens for like a

2230
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:57,920
Speaker 1: guy like mate Peyton Manning. He signed it an enormous

2231
02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:00,320
Speaker 1: he signed a fifty million dollar contract with was Oh

2232
02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 1: my gosh, it's unbelievable. He's got You know what his

2233
02:04:03,600 --> 02:04:06,880
Speaker 1: attitude was, He goes, oh my gosh, I gotta earn

2234
02:04:06,920 --> 02:04:09,880
Speaker 1: all this money because if I gotta earn this too,

2235
02:04:09,960 --> 02:04:12,880
Speaker 1: it Yeah, I got, I got, I gotta earn this. Right.

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02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:15,680
Speaker 1: Most guys like, I'm done, I got the money, I'm done,

2237
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:18,160
Speaker 1: And some guys it's just the opposite of that, says,

2238
02:04:18,160 --> 02:04:20,720
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I have a responsibility now, right, So

2239
02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:23,240
Speaker 1: is you got to try and pry that out of

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Speaker 1: these young draft picks and it's just hard to do

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Speaker 1: because they've been coached up so that may be the best,

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02:04:31,160 --> 02:04:33,840
Speaker 1: that may be the best, relevant, most relevant. Uh Bill's

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02:04:33,880 --> 02:04:36,840
Speaker 1: example of the biggest fluke season Payton. I'm gonna say

2244
02:04:36,880 --> 02:04:40,520
Speaker 1: false because I think we talked ourselves into into Carlia.

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02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:43,160
Speaker 1: I like that tell Us was in the league for

2246
02:04:43,240 --> 02:04:46,879
Speaker 1: like five years too. The next one is Jared Stidham.

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02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:51,600
Speaker 1: Jared Stidham is more talented than to a tangovloa true

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Speaker 1: or false. I think he could be. I think his

2249
02:04:56,200 --> 02:05:00,800
Speaker 1: arm is stronger. Is he as precise says Tah. I

2250
02:05:00,920 --> 02:05:03,400
Speaker 1: think that's the only part where the jury's out if

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02:05:03,440 --> 02:05:05,320
Speaker 1: you go back and look at the college stance for

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02:05:05,440 --> 02:05:08,240
Speaker 1: both guys. Okay, and I know Chris Simms has his

2253
02:05:08,760 --> 02:05:12,680
Speaker 1: quarterback rankings list that he's counting down, and I think

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02:05:12,720 --> 02:05:16,280
Speaker 1: he had stid him ahead of Tahu because he calls

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Speaker 1: to a product of the Alabama machine. And that's fair.

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02:05:20,240 --> 02:05:21,920
Speaker 1: He has a lot of talent around him. But I

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02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:25,760
Speaker 1: think Chris Sims is forgetting Jared Stidham played with A J. Brown,

2258
02:05:26,360 --> 02:05:31,560
Speaker 1: DK Metcalf and UH and Slayton the receiver that's Uh

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02:05:31,680 --> 02:05:34,440
Speaker 1: with the Giants. I mean he didn't have a bunch

2260
02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:39,320
Speaker 1: of pushovers down there in Auburn. Hue but you look

2261
02:05:39,360 --> 02:05:42,280
Speaker 1: at his completion percentage, I think, what are they talking about?

2262
02:05:42,360 --> 02:05:46,160
Speaker 1: Checking the boxes right? Physical boxes? Yeah, So I think

2263
02:05:46,200 --> 02:05:48,280
Speaker 1: Stidham's got a good, really good arm. I think it's

2264
02:05:48,360 --> 02:05:51,040
Speaker 1: probably better than twas. I could be wrong, but it

2265
02:05:51,120 --> 02:05:54,080
Speaker 1: looks stronger to me. Uh. You know, he played as

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02:05:54,080 --> 02:05:58,720
Speaker 1: a freshman at Baylor part you know, part time. Yeah. Uh,

2267
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:01,920
Speaker 1: then transferred to Allburn, played last two years at Auburn.

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02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:04,360
Speaker 1: And you know, in his two years at Auburn when

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Speaker 1: he was a true starter, sixty through almost sixty four

2270
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:12,040
Speaker 1: completion percentage and was productive, you know, thirty six touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: eleven picks. You look at TUA and the numbers are staggering.

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Speaker 1: It's eighty seven touchdowns and eleven picks. I'll say this, brownie.

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Speaker 1: How about this though? For Stidham and tagabloa Bill Belichick

2274
02:06:25,040 --> 02:06:29,800
Speaker 1: pick Stidham. Well, yeah, and that was the year we

2275
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Speaker 1: can say he's backed into Corn. He wasn't back to Newey.

2276
02:06:31,920 --> 02:06:34,160
Speaker 1: He was Stidham. And he passed up on all the

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Speaker 1: guys available in free agency this year, passed up on

2278
02:06:37,160 --> 02:06:39,840
Speaker 1: some bargains he could have gotten passed up on, even

2279
02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:43,000
Speaker 1: going out and wooing some of these other free agents say, listen,

2280
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Speaker 1: I know you expect more money, but if you come here,

2281
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:46,880
Speaker 1: we think with your skill set, we can go to

2282
02:06:46,920 --> 02:06:48,720
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. And went. He never made any of

2283
02:06:48,760 --> 02:06:51,480
Speaker 1: that cell to any of those guys. He chose Derek

2284
02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:54,120
Speaker 1: Jared Stidham well, and not only that, we know that

2285
02:06:54,240 --> 02:06:59,400
Speaker 1: Saban is super tight with Saban and so I'm sure

2286
02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:01,800
Speaker 1: he got I mean, he didn't have to draft two

2287
02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:03,480
Speaker 1: of this year because he already had stid him. But

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02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if he could have. Yeah, and probably

2289
02:07:05,960 --> 02:07:09,800
Speaker 1: couldn't have unless he gave away his far right move up. Um.

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02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:14,040
Speaker 1: The reason I'm not crazy about two is because I

2291
02:07:14,160 --> 02:07:16,440
Speaker 1: just don't think his body's gonna hold up in this league.

2292
02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:18,760
Speaker 1: It didn't hold up in the SEC. How the hell

2293
02:07:18,840 --> 02:07:21,000
Speaker 1: is he gonna hold up in the NFL. We'll see.

2294
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:24,040
Speaker 1: I just don't know if it's if he's gonna do that.

2295
02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:27,160
Speaker 1: So is he more talented? The jury's out on this.

2296
02:07:27,200 --> 02:07:28,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can answer true or false.

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02:07:29,080 --> 02:07:31,920
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna say true. I'm gonna say true

2298
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Speaker 1: just to say it, all right. That was that was

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Speaker 1: of Fame ceremony in Canton go on as usual. Celebrating

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Speaker 1: with those who helped you get here is a big

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Speaker 1: part of this. There's a parade here in Canton that

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Speaker 1: gets about three hundred thousand people, which makes it one

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Speaker 1: is pretty unique when you think about the Rose Parade

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Speaker 1: in Pasadena, the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade in New York.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we want to make sure that is

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Speaker 1: that kind of event. We're going to make sure that

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Speaker 1: it's safe and the people that are involved in that

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Speaker 1: as our you know doctor Amy Acton, who's our director

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Speaker 1: of Public Health here in Ohio. The governor himself, Mike

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Speaker 1: Dwine and then of course you know our partners at

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Speaker 1: the NFL. That was David Baker, president of Pro Football

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, on what we learned, and Brownie, we

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Speaker 1: had this Twitter poll. It went all day and most

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Speaker 1: people chose between two options, watching the position battles happening

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Speaker 1: training camp and an up closed look at the team.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're gonna miss about training camp. And I

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Speaker 1: think that goes kind of for you and me as well,

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Speaker 1: doesn't it. Yeah? I mean, and who knows how close

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Speaker 1: and personal will get to be depending on what the

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Speaker 1: restrictions are for media and team employees. So I should

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Speaker 1: that scripts yet to be written. Yeah, I should have

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Speaker 1: invented a hold or first hand sanitize you can wear

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Speaker 1: around so that you can just walk anywhere you want

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Speaker 1: with hand sanitizer strapped to your belt or something. They

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Speaker 1: probably have them though, right that if you invented that,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't be working right now. Yes I would. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Thanks everybody, and also happy twenty fifth birthday too, Joe

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Speaker 1: DBAs over WGR. Happy twenty fifth Joe. Thanks for helping

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Speaker 1: up the jay Bird. Thank you for helping us. I'm

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Speaker 1: taking a day off tomorrow. Addie glab and Chris Brown

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Speaker 1: will be in tomorrow. Brownie, thanks for covering for me.

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Speaker 1: Bro appreciate it. Yeah, you got it. All right. This

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Speaker 1: has been one Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health.

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Speaker 1: And this is one. This is Buffalo Bills Radio, all right,