1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: It's time to Catch a Cheater. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 2: Only on the Jubile Show, Holly is on the phone 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 2: today for to Catch a Cheater and she thinks that 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: her husband of four years, Alan might be starting to 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: see somebody else. Holly, thank you for coming on the show. 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: I'm sorry that you're dealing with this. What's going on 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 2: with Alan. 8 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: We've been married for four years, but we were together 9 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: probably three and a half years before that, so almost 10 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: eight years we've been together. 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 3: He's just been really distant all of a sudden, for 12 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 3: like the past five to six months. I don't know 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 3: what's one line I've asked him. He's just like, everything's 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 3: fine or it's not you. I'm just going through some things. 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, well, if you're going through 16 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 3: some things, do you want to be in therapy or 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: anything like that? 18 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: And he was like sure. 19 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 3: So he started therapy, which I commend him for and 20 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, I'm I'm happy that you're doing that. 21 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: But he's still like distant, and even after therapy that 22 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: felt like it got kind of worse. He spends his. 23 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 3: Time on Twitch and on his phone, and we even 24 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 3: used to once a week, like we would take our 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 3: lunch breaks together from work and have lunch together, and 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 3: that stopped like two months ago, Like, we don't even 27 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 3: do that anymore. Huh. 28 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. So I'm suspecting there's 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: another person. 30 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 4: Is there anything that is pointing to another person outside? 31 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 4: I mean the distance is definitely a big flag for sure, 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 4: But have there been any signs of another person? 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: Well, he's always on. 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 3: His phone, right, like I said, and we don't do 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: our once of moss lunch breaks together anymore. 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: So did he give you a reason for stopping those? 37 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 3: Well, he just said he's swamped at work, and everybody 38 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: knows that a cliche. 39 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: Come on, really, I mean it could be. 40 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 5: I mean I have you tried to just show up 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 5: at his work with lunch and be like, hey, you 42 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 5: couldn't do that? 43 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 4: I do that? 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, surprise. 45 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: I mean, for lack of a better to, I do 46 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: not have to do. 47 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: That, Okay, okay, fair. Does he interact with his friends 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: the same way that he was before? 49 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: No? Really, So that's kind of weird too. And I'm like, 50 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: who is getting all of this attention from him? 51 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 3: You know, because it's not me, it's not his friends, 52 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 3: it is his phone. So I'm not going to go 53 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: through his phone like I tried to once we got 54 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: a big argument, didn't work out, so I stay away 55 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 3: from going through his phone. 56 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: I just don't know. 57 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, so everyone's supposed to help, but it 58 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: got worse. 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: So now that i'd be like, stop going to therapy, 60 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look crazy. 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 62 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: What if he's like having an affair with a therapist. 63 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: Oh, that would have been a plotwaste. Yeah, then I 64 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: would say ask him to stop going to that therapist. 65 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then go to a therapist that can talk 66 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 4: about ethics and yeah, teach you how to get over divorce. 67 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 4: And not getting a full blown, like one hundred percent 68 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: cheating vibe from this though, I'm getting more of a 69 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 4: like something's going on with him and he's just isolating 70 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 4: himself from the world's kind of a thing, which is 71 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 4: tough because when a guy gets to that space, it's 72 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 4: hard to break through. 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 5: But if he's not acting like if he's acting weird 74 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 5: with his friends, also, that's what I mean, he's an 75 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 5: isolation phase. 76 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 77 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. 78 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: I just feel like it's got to be something, like 79 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: he's never done a drug in his life. 80 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: So it's not drugs. 81 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: Well that's good, yeah, all right, Well we'll try to 82 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: figure it out for you. We'll play a song. You 83 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: already told us what a grocery store he's a Rewards 84 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 2: card member at. So we'll do the usual and call up, 85 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: pretend to be from the grocery store and say that 86 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: he's this month's lucky winner of thirty six longstim red 87 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 2: roses delivered to anybody that he wants to, and we'll 88 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: see if he sends us to you or to somebody else. Okay, okay, 89 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: all right, to play a song. Come back and get 90 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: your To Catch a Teater next if you're just joining 91 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: us for today's To Catch a Teeter. Holly is on 92 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: the phone and she thinks that her husband of four 93 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: years might be messing around. We're about to call him 94 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 2: and pretend to be from the grocery store that he 95 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: is a RWARS card member at, and say that every 96 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: single month, we randomly choose one RARS card member who 97 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 2: gets free flower delivery from our Florida department, and we'll 98 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 2: see v sends those flowers to Holly or to somebody else. Hally, 99 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: before we do that, why don't you refresh everybody's memory 100 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: on what's going on with Alan. 101 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 3: Alan and I have been together total was almost eight years, 102 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 3: four of them married. 103 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: She's guys really distant. 104 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: He spends most of his time playing Twitch or on 105 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: his phone. He stopped our monthly lunch date that we 106 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 3: do together from work. He did start therapy, but it 107 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: only got worse after therapy. 108 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: And I don't want to go through phone and I'm 109 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: not a. 110 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: Cap of pop up at works. 111 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: You ready for us to call him? Yeah, okay, here 112 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 2: we go. Hi, this is Jorable calling from I was 113 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: looking for our rewards card member named Alan. 114 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 6: Uh yeah, this is Alan. 115 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: Hi, Alan, Please don't hang up. This is not a 116 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: marketing phone call. I'm calling to give you some exciting news. 117 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: You're this month's big winner. Thank you very much for 118 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: shopping with us. Yeah, the clouding. We're here in the 119 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: office and everything. Hey, every single month, we choose one 120 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 2: rewards card member totally random, who gets free flowers delivered 121 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: from our floral department. So it's thirty six longstim red roses, 122 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: a box of candy or chocolates or whatever, and a 123 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: car that sent to anybody that you want. 124 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 6: Oh, hey, that's pretty cool. 125 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: You said free, right, absolutely, Frank pocket nothing out of 126 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: pocket will give you a confirmations and everything, so you 127 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 2: know that it's free. It's just our little way of 128 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: saying thank you very much for shopping with us. 129 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 6: Oh well all right, I mean I guess I could 130 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 6: use that for sure. 131 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: Great. If you know the person that you want to 132 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: send the flowers to right now, I can do it 133 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 2: quickly over the phone in just a matter of minutes. 134 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 6: But yeah, I can give it to you on the 135 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 6: phone now, so it's easy. 136 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: The first thing that I will need would be the 137 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: first and the last name of the person that you 138 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: would like to send the flowers to. 139 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 6: Okay, why don't you make the card out the judy 140 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 6: it's j. 141 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: U d Y okay, and you have the last name 142 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 2: on on judy. 143 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 6: Yeah, what's the name as my last name? 144 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: So was your last name? 145 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 3: Is? 146 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: What was that your wife? 147 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 6: Uh? No not Actually I'm going to put this in 148 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,919 Speaker 6: the card. But if you could write I love you mom, 149 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 6: it's going to be okay. 150 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 2: Oh that okay, yes, I can do that. Were you 151 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 2: And at this point I'll just let you know that 152 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 2: I'm not from the grocery store at all. Wait what, Yeah, 153 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: this is actually Jewbel from the Jewel Show. That's a 154 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 2: radio show. 155 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm Nina on. 156 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 2: The radio show too. Hi, and I'm Victoria. Yeah, and wait. 157 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 6: What's going on? 158 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: Your wife, Holly is actually on the phone with us. 159 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 6: Holly, Are you kidding me? 160 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 2: Nope, Holly. Do you want to explain what this is? 161 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 162 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: I kind of. I feel stupid now, but I kinda 163 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: ask them. 164 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 7: To do this because you've been getting like, really really 165 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 7: distant and you haven't been telling me what's been going on, 166 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 7: and I've been asking. 167 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 3: You about it and spend most of your time on 168 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: your phone, and you've been canceling Island State. 169 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: The segue is called to catch a cheeter Allan, so 170 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: if somebody thinks their significant other might be cheating, then 171 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: they will email us to call them and see I 172 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: see who they send flowers too. 173 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 6: Oh no, okay, I've see now. Well, I gotta tell you, babe, 174 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 6: I'm not I'm not cheating on you. I'm so sorry 175 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 6: that you even thought that. And yet I've been distant lately, 176 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 6: and the truth is that I do have a secret. 177 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 6: But you know it's it's nothing about you. It's actually 178 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 6: my mom has been getting sick oh answer. 179 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: Sorry, Oh, we just. 180 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 6: Kind of figured this out. And you know, my siblings, 181 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 6: they're not going to be helping me, so it's it's 182 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 6: like pretty much my responsibility here. 183 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so sorry. 184 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 3: I mean, your mom had Why why wouldn't you tell 185 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 3: me something like that. 186 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 6: I don't want to put the burden on you. I mean, 187 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 6: you know me, I'm the kind of person who just 188 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 6: kind of deals with whatever is in front of them, 189 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 6: and I. 190 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: Should have told you. 191 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 192 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 2: And also Alan, just a quick note, I get what 193 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: he's saying with that person that deals with stuff in 194 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: front of him. Everybody needs somebody to lean on, especially 195 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 2: if you have a wife. Sounds like you have a 196 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 2: supportive partner. 197 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: It sounds like it's been going on for a long time, 198 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 4: and you probably you know, you shouldn't have to bear 199 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 4: this by yourself. 200 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: I have six months and if you if your partner 201 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: cares about you, it's not burdening them with anything. They 202 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 2: want to be there for you, Allie. Do you want 203 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,479 Speaker 2: to be there for them? 204 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Of course I do. 205 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 7: I'm even embarrassed that it had to come. 206 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: This far to be on the radio, But like I 207 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: wish I would have known like this is a big deal. 208 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,439 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, you know what, It is my fault that 209 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 6: you feel this way, and you guys are totally right. 210 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 6: I mean you should have let her know and and yeah, 211 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 6: I guess I could use some help myself, so. 212 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know me at all that. 213 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, do you want to finish having this conversation 214 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 3: like outside of. 215 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 6: Actually, baby, you know what I really missed and we 216 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 6: haven't done it in a while because you know, I've 217 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 6: been so wrapped up in all this. But you know, 218 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 6: we haven't had lunch in a while, and I think 219 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 6: if maybe we go to lunch today that would be 220 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 6: pretty cool. 221 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 2: I'm sure up to it, of course. 222 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do that. 223 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: Okay. Well, yeah, I mean, you have a lot to 224 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: talk about, and I'm glad that he wasn't cheating me too. 225 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 3: We too. 226 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 4: I am sorry to hear about about your mom, Alan, 227 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 4: and this is going to be a tough time for 228 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 4: all of you, but thankfully you have each other and 229 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 4: a lot of love, so you're lucky in that. 230 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 6: Thank you, and I appreciate you guys for that. 231 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 5: The Jewel shows to catch a cheater