1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: So as I come on here right now, the big 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: question that everybody is asking is is Joe Biden going home? 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Is he going to go back to Delaware? Is he 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: going to just drop out of the race. I want 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: to be clear, I don't think he's going to drop out. 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,959 Speaker 1: There's a lot of reporting right now saying that the 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: President is thinking about dropping out. The Democrats are saying 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: he's got to drop out. They're losing their minds on TV. 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: The media is united against him getting out. The Democratic 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: leadership is united behind getting him out. And Biden met 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: with Democratic governors and the polls show that he is 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: slipping in his support. 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:40,959 Speaker 2: Now. 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: President Biden huddled with a group of more than twenty 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: Democratic governors in an attempt to stabilize a standing among 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: his party's leaders. All right, The President was said to 17 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: be mowing the future of his candency with key allies, 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: and a new poll show that Donald Trump had a 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: widen lead over Joe Biden after the debate disaster. Donald 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: Trump now leads President Biden forty nine to forty three 21 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: percent among likely voters nationally. A new poll shows I 22 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: don't care about national polls that much, because yes, it 23 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: shows your trend, but it does a meanything because this 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: all comes down to the electoral College. 25 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: So I look at swing states. 26 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: What I know right now is the president of the 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: United States of America, Joe Biden is behind Donald Trump 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: in every single swing state. Now in Michigan, Joe Biden 29 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: sought to reassure Democrats that her husband was up to 30 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: the job. Not all there were convinced either. As we 31 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: are going through this, as they're trying to convince everybody 32 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: before July fourth holiday that everything is going to be 33 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: just fine. Congressional Democrats have also now become cautious when 34 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: defending President Biden's ability to serve and also win reelection 35 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: because they're afraid because all of them on the House 36 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: side are up for reelection right every two years. They're 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden may make them lose some of their seats. 38 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: And then the question is who would be the front 39 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: runner right now if it Joe Biden does step aside. 40 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: I think it's no doubt right now that the front 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: runner is Kamala Harris. Why because she's the only one 42 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: that could actually use the money that's been raised for 43 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: the Biden Harris campaign, and it seems very problematic for 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: someone to come in with no war chest and have 45 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: to start at zero. Kamala Harris would start with the 46 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: same amount of money that is in their bank account 47 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: right now. Harris is also growing the support on social 48 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: media among Democrats because I think they also understand that 49 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: the campaign is up and running. They don't have to 50 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: start something new, and they don't have to start raising 51 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: money from scratch. So you combine all of those things. 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: And yes, there's a lot going on. 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None of us are denying Thursday night was 97 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: a bad performance. 98 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: It was a bad Uh. It was a bad. 99 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: Hit if you will on that. But it doesn't impact 100 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 3: what I believe he's delivering. 101 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 4: No, I always say this. 102 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: In November, we've got a clear choice. 103 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: The President was very clear that he is in this 104 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 4: to win this, and the president is going to President 105 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 4: is our nominee, the president is our party leader. And 106 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 4: the President has told us, and he was very clear 107 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 4: back there that he is in this to winness. And 108 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: so for people, I would say and listen, we're governors. 109 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 4: We don't do handering. That's not what we do. Governor's 110 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 4: working get things done. Governors say, tell me the objective, 111 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 4: and we're going to make sure that we accomplish the objective. 112 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 4: And so for people who who who are who are concerned, 113 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 4: I just want to be very clear on something. And 114 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 4: come November, we've got a binary choice, and the binary 115 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 4: choices between someone who has continually delivered for us in 116 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 4: our states and the people of our states, and frankly, 117 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: someone who's vision for the future of this country is 118 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 4: downright dangerous. And so I would tell people it is 119 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 4: time to mount up, and it is time to get 120 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 4: serious and understands. Did the President explain that his debated 121 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: copies to you on Thursday night? 122 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: Did he understand the states? 123 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 4: Did he speaking? 124 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he did. He said, Look he didn't he listened. 125 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: He didn't listen to himself. 126 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 5: And I thought he gave a great example when he said, look, 127 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 5: I'm worrying about numbers on this. 128 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,559 Speaker 2: It's about people. It's about their lives. 129 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 5: This is Joe from Scranton. He talks about building the 130 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 5: middle class. He did it, he delivered. And I think 131 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 5: this idea that you get in your own head, you 132 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 5: get a little bit cycled up on that. 133 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 2: What we saw it in there today was a guy who. 134 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: Was the guy that all of us believed in the 135 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: first time who could beat Donald Trump and did beat Donald. 136 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 6: Trump with. 137 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: That thank you, and they rushed off. 138 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: Now those Democratic governors that went before that microphone are 139 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: saying in a very united front, he is still our guy. 140 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: On TV, however, the Democrats on TV are saying something 141 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: very very different. We have a second House Democrat that 142 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: is now calling on Biden to drop out of the 143 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four race publicly. Then a third came forward, 144 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: Representative Moulton, saying, I have grave concerns that Biden can 145 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: beat Trump. So it's not even about the cognitive decline. 146 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: It's about, Hey, if this guy's going to lose, he 147 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: may make some of us lose. So we're going to 148 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: bail on him selfishly because now we no longer like him. 149 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: And I want you to hear what CNN said. A 150 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: bunch of Democrats on there and they're talking about this. 151 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 7: Listen, thoughts are because I've heard that message for months, 152 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 7: right that look at the record, and if he just 153 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 7: articulates the record, that will show in the numbers. 154 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: But it hasn't. 155 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 7: It hasn't shown in the numbers, and those numbers are 156 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 7: getting worse, and he didn't show an ability to make 157 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 7: that case aggressively in the debates, So I wonder where 158 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 7: that leaves us in your view. 159 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: Look, I'm just going to be honest. 160 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 8: I mean, everybody comes on the air and says all 161 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 8: this great stuff, but behind the scenes it's. 162 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: Full skill panic. 163 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 8: People are passing around legal memos, PDFs are flying back 164 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 8: and forth on WhatsApp trying to figure out what are 165 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 8: the options. How can you replace Biden? How do you 166 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 8: get him to do it in a way where he 167 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 8: feels respected as he should be respected. Who should Kamala 168 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 8: Harris's vice president be. The conversation on air and the 169 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 8: conversation off air are completely different. And so it's the 170 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 8: same thing with you saw with the Trump situation where 171 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 8: people would come on air and defend Trump and then 172 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 8: you talk to people and then we got a crazy candidate. 173 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 8: We don't have a crazy candidate. We have a great candidate. 174 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 8: We have a beautiful man. We have someone who loves 175 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 8: this country. We have someone who has given his all, 176 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 8: I mean his all to the last drop for this country. 177 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 8: But he may not be able to get across. 178 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: The finish line. 179 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 8: And a mature party has to take that into account, 180 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 8: and that is what's happening. And so look, I understand 181 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 8: people want to, you know, to defend them and protect 182 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 8: him and give him their space and the dignity to 183 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 8: make his own choice. But there is a big conversation 184 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 8: happening right now about how this happens, not. 185 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: Weather, How this happens not weather. 186 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: You notice how now, all of a sudden this has 187 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: started to really change the dynamic. Here they're saying, I 188 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: want to get rid of him, and I want to 189 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: get rid of him right now, and he has to 190 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: understand that it's time for us to get rid of him, 191 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: and we need him to go away, and we need 192 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: him to do it in a responsible manner, and we're 193 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: going to push him. Then you have those the White 194 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: House who are saying, well, maybe he doesn't need to go, 195 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: maybe it's too hard. And then the question is does Harris. 196 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: If Harris is the one that's going to get everything right, 197 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: like all the money and she becomes a candidate, does 198 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: she have a better chance against Donald Trump? That is 199 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: a fair question that also needs to be asked now. 200 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: By the way, on a side note, the White House 201 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: is not helping Okay, the White House is not doing 202 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: a very good job of helping at all, right now, 203 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: when they're asked basic questions. Listen to White House Press 204 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: Secretary being asked about the new excuse that Joe Biden 205 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: suffered from jetlag and that's why he didn't do well 206 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: at the last debate. 207 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: Thank you. 208 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 9: There's no question that international travel can be rigorous. I 209 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 9: think the confusion is that he's still suffering from the 210 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 9: effects of. 211 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 2: That nearly two weeks later. 212 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 10: So he articulated a little bit about, like, do you 213 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 10: guys usually have accommodations for him after he does a trip, 214 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 10: that he's going to have jet lag for that long 215 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 10: a period of time. 216 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 6: So can you can you when you say two weeks later, 217 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 6: what do you. 218 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: Mean the debate? 219 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 9: He arrives back in the United States twelve or thirteen 220 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 9: days before the debate, So his explanation for a for 221 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 9: debate performance is jetlag. 222 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 6: So what I want to say is it's the jetlag 223 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 6: and also the cold, right. It is the two things, 224 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 6: and that occurred, and you all heard it in his 225 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 6: voice when he did the debate, right, and it is 226 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 6: even something that we shared ahead of time. You heard 227 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 6: it in his voice, and we confirmed it, and I 228 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 6: think that's important to note as well, like it is 229 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 6: the jet lag and the cold. But I want to 230 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 6: be really I want to be really clear here. This 231 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 6: is not an excuse, right, This is not an excuse. 232 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 6: You all asked for an explanation, and we get we're 233 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 6: giving it an explanation. 234 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: It is not an excuse. 235 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 6: I don't want that to be the leading piece of 236 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 6: this ask for the only reason we're sharing this because 237 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 6: it was asked of me here and the President certainly 238 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 6: wanted to give an explanation himself, and that's what he 239 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 6: did yesterday. We want to We understand that it wasn't 240 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 6: his best night. 241 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: It wasn't a great debate. 242 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 6: We understand that, and we understand what supporters saw, what 243 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 6: the American people saw, and what you all saw, and 244 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 6: so we wanted to give an explanation. So I don't 245 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 6: want to get into this or are you giving this excuse? 246 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: Not an excuse, We're giving you. 247 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 6: What our explanation was. We want to continue to make 248 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 6: sure that we do everything that we can to deliver 249 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 6: the American people. That's what we're going to continue to do. 250 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of those when you just 251 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: gotta laugh. Joe Biden. They're saying, the reason why I 252 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,119 Speaker 1: had a bad debate is because he suffered from jetlag, 253 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: and that would have been fourteen days before the debate, 254 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: two weeks before the debate. They're saying, well, we had jetlag, 255 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: and so therefore that's why I had a bad night 256 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: is because of the jet lag from two weeks prior vacation. 257 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: But we're not making excuses. If I was Joe Biden, 258 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 1: by the way, I'd be firing the White House pres 259 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: secretary right now because she's only making you look like 260 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: you're more incompetent. The fallout from the debate this past 261 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: week continues, and there are a lot of people that 262 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: have been asking me what is going to happen, and 263 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different scenarios. So I'm going to 264 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: break it down for you so you understand exactly what 265 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: could happen here. 266 00:12:58,800 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: After what was. 267 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: Described by Reuters as the president's quote shaky performance at 268 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: the debate with Donald Trump on Thursday night, Democrats then 269 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: began to openly question whether he should be replaced as 270 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: a candidate for the twenty twenty four election. There is 271 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: a process for doing so, but to be very clear, 272 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: so everyone understands that process it's going to be extremely messy. 273 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 2: The other question is how does it work. 274 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: Reuters spoke with a senior fellow at the Brookings It's 275 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: two think tank, a Democratic National Committee member and the 276 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: author of the book Primary Politics about the presidential nominating process, 277 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: and they asked the question that everyone's asking, how would 278 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: it work? So what options do the Democrats have. Let's 279 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: start with that the Democratic Party has had no real 280 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: plan b for Biden. 281 00:13:58,640 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: As its presidential candidate. 282 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: He ran virtually unopposed for the party's presidential nomination. They 283 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: decided that they decided to basically shut everybody out, tell 284 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: everybody not to run against him in a primary. He 285 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: will not be nominated officially, however, until later this summer 286 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: at the Democratic National Convention. So the reality is, yes, 287 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: there is still time to make a change. And then 288 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: that's where the handful, yeah, not one or two, but 289 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: a handful of scenarios become possible realities. Now here's the 290 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: easiest path to replace Joe Biden. So you understand, Biden 291 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: could just decide by himself. And as you know, there's 292 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: reports that he's having a meeting with his closest advisors 293 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: and his family Sunday right had this big meeting that 294 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: they put out to decide and to talk about the 295 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: future of the campaign. There could be and we're hearing 296 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: that quote the money has dried up, people are not 297 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: willing to give. They also are gonna be looking at 298 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: polling and internal polling numbers decide is there a pathway 299 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: for the president and not just a pathway, but is 300 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: there a way that they could turn this ship around 301 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: after the dismal performance. Now, I will say this to 302 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: be clear, Joe Biden and the team made sure that 303 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden was out there right after these debates and 304 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: not into hiding like he usually is. I've seen more 305 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden in the past week than I have 306 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: seen probably in the last six months. 307 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is out. 308 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: There, and they're treating him like he is a candidate 309 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: right now running for office. Now he may actually have 310 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: to be a real candidate now, not just kind of 311 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: show up here and there. He's gonna have to go 312 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: full speed ahead and look at a lot of donors 313 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: in the eyes, and meet with a lot of people 314 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: and ask for a lot of favors. He's not gonna 315 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: be able to just do this by sitting at the 316 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: White House, taking naps and working a noon to or schedule. 317 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: So again, Biden could just straight up decide himself, I'm 318 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: gonna step. 319 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: Aside before I'm nominated at the convention. 320 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: He could be challenged by the way by others who 321 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: try to win over the delegates that he has accrued, 322 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: and that would be basically like a coup attempt by 323 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party internally. Or he could withdraw after the 324 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: Democratic conventions in Chicago in August, leaving the Democratic National 325 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: Committee to elect someone. 326 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: To run against Trump in his place. 327 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: So those are the real scenarios that are at play here. 328 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: So the next question is obviously this what happens next? Well, 329 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: right now, the process largely depends on Joe Biden. So 330 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: what I would say is, it doesn't really matter what 331 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: any of the Democrats say. 332 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: It's gonna be up to Joe Biden. 333 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: Now he would have to agree to step down or 334 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: face a challenger this late in the process. He would 335 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: then try to force him to then basically get out 336 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: of the race. Biden and the team around him so 337 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: far have shown zero indications except for this meeting with 338 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: a family and that could just be to say, hey, 339 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 1: we met, we decided we're going to stick in this thing. 340 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: But we had a serious meeting to placate some Democrats. 341 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 2: That are losing their minds. 342 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: But in reality, every signal is going to Joe Biden 343 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: is not wanting to step aside, and no opponents have 344 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: said they would come and challenge him directly at the convention. 345 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: In fact, there haven't even been leaks of those types 346 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: of conversations. So that should also tell you something. Now 347 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: you got to ask yourself then this question, who would 348 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: even his top political opponents in the Democratic Party is 349 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: potential replacements be whether and I'm not rooting for these people, 350 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you the reality. Number one would be 351 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: Vice President Kamala Harris. Because she is the vice president, 352 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: she's second in line, she's already running with him. It 353 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: would make sense that Kamwa Harris would be the nominee. 354 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 1: The problem is she's hated by many Democrats and the 355 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: polling numbers for her are absolutely dismal. So again she's 356 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: number one in theory on paper. Then number two would 357 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 1: obviously be California Governor Gavin Newsom. The problem with Gavin 358 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: Newsom is you would be basically replacing an African American 359 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: woman with a white, rich dude from California. I don't 360 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: know how that's going to go over with minority voters, 361 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: specifically African Americans and women in the Democratic Party. That's 362 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: number two now, Gavin Newsom, just to be clear, and 363 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: some would say this was him being a good soldier, 364 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: but he spoke passionately in his defense after the debate, 365 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: serving as a surrogate role and showcasing his support. Now 366 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 1: he also, I think looked really good to Democrats. It 367 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: saw him because he contrasted what Joe Biden had just 368 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: done on stage. 369 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: And was faltering. 370 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: So one looks crisp and clean and new and energetic 371 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: in Newsome, and the other looks old SENI island Well, 372 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: I mean lost his dead gumb mine. Now here's the 373 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: other question. What happens if Joe Biden steps down? He 374 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:28,120 Speaker 1: just comes out and says, all right, I'm out. It's 375 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: a fair question. 376 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 2: The answer. 377 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: Biden has spent the last several months accruing about four 378 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 1: thousand Democratic delegates by winning primary elections in US states 379 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: and territories. Those delegates would normally vote for him, but 380 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: the rules do not bind or force them to do so. 381 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: Delegates of the convention can vote with their conscience, which 382 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: means they can throw their vote to someone else. So 383 00:19:55,960 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: if Biden says, hey, I'm releasing the delegates. Okay, all 384 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: four thousand plus of you, I'm releasing you, and I'm 385 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: gonna release you, and you get to step I'm gonna 386 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: step aside, then there could be a throwdown competition among 387 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: other Democratic candidates become the nominee. In theory, at the 388 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: Democratic Convention, that would play out like a movie. That 389 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: could be good or bad for the Democrats, depending on 390 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: if they do it well. If there's a grand debate, 391 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: it could help the person coming out of there, or 392 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: it could completely divide the Democratic Party and ruin their 393 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: chances come November. It's a very risky game, so that 394 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: would be the easiest, easiest path. Biden releases the delegates, 395 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: so I'm stepping aside, and there could be a coronation. 396 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: They could say it's gonna be Kamla and that could 397 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: be the end of that, or they could say it's 398 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: gonna be Gavin Newsom, or there could be an all 399 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: out war. But ultimately it's gonna come down to Biden. 400 00:20:54,520 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: In that scenario, who would replace Joe Biden. Several candidates 401 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: could step into the fray. There is obviously no number one. 402 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: Kama Harris would be in theory the number one. I 403 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: mentioned that a moment ago, but she doesn't really She's 404 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: not really number one because people. 405 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: Don't really like her. 406 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: And so Harris would almost certainly be at the top 407 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: of the list just because she's the vice president. It's 408 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: the natural progression of power and the Democratic Party when 409 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: they ran, it's like, well, she would be a great 410 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: vice president in case thing happened in the president right, 411 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: like it's all there on paper. But she's got her 412 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: own problems. She's got her own problems at a rocky start. 413 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 1: She can't keep people around to work for her. That's 414 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: another problem. She apparently is impossible to work for the Democrats. 415 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: Insiders can't stand her and how much of a diva 416 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: she is, and that's putting it nicely. 417 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 2: The turnover in her staff is just horrendous. 418 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: It's basically like, you get a job working for it's 419 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: like congratulations if you started sitting out resumes. Yet it's 420 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: almost like you go to get a job with Kamwa 421 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: and then you immediately start looking for your next job, 422 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: because you know you're going to want to die if 423 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: you don't get out of there quickly. Now, let's also 424 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: talk about what the US Constitution says. 425 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: All right, this is important. 426 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: The US Constitution dictates the vice president become president if 427 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: the president dies. 428 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: Or becomes incapacitated. 429 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: But it is not way in on an inner party 430 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: process for choosing a nominee at the convention. 431 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 2: That's why I say it's open season. 432 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: So let's go through the list, because it is bigger 433 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: than Kamala Harris. Right on that list, California governor news 434 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: from that would be I think probably the top of 435 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: the list, Michigan governor because a lot of people say 436 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: they want a woman. By golly, they thought it was 437 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: gonna be Hillary Clinton, break that glass ceiling and feminists 438 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: out there right So Michigan Governor, Gretchen Whitmer, Kentucky Governor 439 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: Andy Masher, Illinois governor it's j is it in it? 440 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: JB? Yes? JB. Pritz KERR. 441 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: They've all been pushed on social media by Democrats as 442 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: possible replacements. Now they are Biden supporters and campaign surrogates 443 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: who are working to help get them elected in theory 444 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: until the debate happened this week, and then maybe they 445 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: were like, all right, I need to start looking out 446 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: for my own best interest, not his anymore. And so 447 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: they may be working the phones behind the scenes. Now 448 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: the next question that people ask is this, So, how 449 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: would a nominee be chosen? 450 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: It's a great question. This is how it's going to work. 451 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: There would likely be a free for all of sorts 452 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: between the Democratic heavyweights that were vying for the job. 453 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: Candidates would have to get signatures from six hundred convention 454 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: delegates to be nominated. They're expected to be about four 455 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: six and seventy two delegates at the Democratic Convention for 456 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: this year. They're including three thousand, nine and thirty three 457 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: pledge delegates in seven hundred and thirty nine automatic or 458 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: super delegates. This is according to the latest numbers that 459 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: we have. So you got to even get on the ballot. 460 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: If Biden was a step down, you'd got it. You'd 461 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: have to go to the convention, you'd have to suck 462 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: up to a bunch of people, and you'd have to 463 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: get at least six hundred signatures to be nominated. Now, 464 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: once you're nominated, you're still short of the majority, right, 465 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: you just need six hundred to get in the game. 466 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: I think most of these people will be able to 467 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: pull that off, Like Gavin NEOs would be able to 468 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: get a lot of those just from California alone. Michigan 469 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: Governor Whitman would be able to get a lot from her. 470 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: Kentucky governor, same thing, Illinois governor, same thing. So you'd 471 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: go to your home state first and go, hey, nominate me. 472 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: I need all your signatures, and then you'd find enough. 473 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: So there's it wouldn't be shocking if all of these 474 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: people got a shot at it. In theory, it doesn't 475 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: mean you're gonna get close to the number needed of 476 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: delegates actually get the nomination at the convention. Now here's 477 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: the other part that's very important. So you know how 478 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: this works. If no one gets a majority of the delegates, 479 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: then there would be a. 480 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: Quote broker convention. You may have heard brokered convention. 481 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: It was something talked about in twenty sixteen a lot 482 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: when Donald Trump they were talking about the possibility of 483 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: a brokered convention in Cleveland. 484 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: I was there for that when it was going on. 485 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: It was insane. Now, what is a brokered convention? 486 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: It is in which the delegates act as in essence, 487 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 1: free agents and negotiate with a party leadership to come 488 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: up with a nominee. Now, there's a lot of backscratching 489 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: and corruption you could call it, that goes on when 490 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,719 Speaker 1: that happens, right, Like, there's a delegates really important, and 491 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: then what happens is some people they will team up 492 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: with a and become like a group like Latino delegates 493 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: or African American delegates or delegates from New York or 494 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: delegates from California. Why because there's power numbers. And then 495 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: it comes down to the bigger issue of hey, what 496 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: do I get in return? Because I'm now way more 497 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: important to you than winning a state on Super Tuesday 498 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: for example. Like think about the power these four thousand, 499 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: six hundred and seventy two delegates have if some of 500 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: them start teaming up into voting box, right, Well, I 501 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: mean there's people that could literally say, hey, if you 502 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: get if we give this to you, I want a 503 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: job at the White House or at the DD or 504 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: the FBI or the DJ whatever it may be, right, 505 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: I want to There's and there's leaders within the group 506 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: that may bring that group together and what they may 507 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: do is. They may say, Hey, I want to be 508 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: an ambassador to I don't know, like some amazing country 509 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: you know where I can just go hang out. I 510 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: want to go be a you know, open up a 511 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: consulate somewhere. For example, if I bring you fifteen votes 512 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: or thirty votes or sixty three votes, right, delegates, what 513 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: do I get in return for that? 514 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 3: Right? 515 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 1: I've heard being the ambassador of Bermuda is really nice. 516 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: Would love to be an ambassador to a really chill 517 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: country for example. Now, if no one gets the majority 518 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: of the delegates, then you have the broker convention. 519 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 2: Everybody's a free agents. 520 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: Now the rules would be established, by the way, and 521 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 1: there would be a rogue call vote for the names 522 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: placed into the nomination process at the convention. 523 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 2: And this gets insane. 524 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: Why because it could take many rounds of voting for 525 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: someone to get a majority and become the nominating I 526 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: remember the House speakership fight that we had recently and 527 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: how crazy that got. That would look mild in comparison 528 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: to a broker convention. At the Democratic convention, it would 529 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: be insane. I've been to several, as I've covered and 530 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: had to commentate Democrat conventions Okay, I've never enjoyed going 531 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: to the Democrat convention because obviously I'm an outsider and 532 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: they hate me because I'm a hardcore conservative. But I've gone, 533 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: and I can tell you if there's a broken convention, 534 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: I actually wish I was going. I have no plans 535 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: to be a Democratic convention this year, but I'd actually 536 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: regret not going and saying, all right, I want to 537 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: go and now do TV from there and radio from there, 538 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: because it's going to be so insane now it could 539 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: take several rounds. The next question is, hey, when was 540 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: the last broker convention? Well, the last broker convention when 541 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: Democrats failed to nominate a candidate on. 542 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: The first ballot was all the way back. 543 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: In nineteen fifty two, So it's been a long time, folks, 544 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: since this has happened. The other question I get asked 545 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: is this what happens if Biden steps down after the convention, 546 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: not before. If Biden steps down after the August convention, 547 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: the four hundred and thirty five members of the Democratic 548 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: National Committee would then choose a new candidate. Every one 549 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: of them becomes very powerful, very quickly, and the same 550 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: thing that I would expect to happen at the convention 551 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: with the delegates, would happen within these members of the 552 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: Democratic National Committee, because there's going to be a lot 553 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: of those conversations what do I get? Right, hey, Gavin, 554 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: you want my vote? What do I get? Because this 555 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: is all about power. If you're a member of the 556 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: Democratic National Committee, you're doing it for personal gain. 557 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: You're not doing it for like service to your country. 558 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: Right, You're you clearly are are somebody that wants to 559 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: be involved in the Democratic Party and you want to 560 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: be powerful, and that's why you're a member. 561 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 2: Well, this is what would happen. 562 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: The members would all get together, four hundred and thirty 563 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: five of them, and they would meet in a special 564 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: session and then they would select who the nominee would be. 565 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: Since it was after the convention, so all those delegates 566 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: of the convention basically would lose all of their power. 567 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: Right, so their leverage is only. 568 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: Good up until the end of the convention, and once the 569 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: convention's over, it's game over. 570 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 2: Now. 571 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: You may say, all right, well, then who the hell 572 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: are these four hundred and thirty five Democratic National Committee members. Well, 573 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: the answer simple, They are divided quote equally between men 574 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: and women. 575 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: Because Democratic Party is everything. 576 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: That way, right, as well as various constituency groups including 577 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: labor unions and their leaders, lgbt QIA plus plus plus 578 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: plus plus representatives, and racial minorities now other totals. Seventy 579 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: five of these four hundred and thirty five DNC members 580 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: are appointed at large by the chair, while the rest 581 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: are elected in their respective states. So the argument would be, hey, 582 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: we have representation from every state in America and the 583 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: Democratic you know committee, we all are here, Let's decide 584 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: who our nominees going to be. 585 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: Now, who could nominate an alternative? In that case? Is 586 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: the next question? 587 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 6: Right? 588 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: If there's a big fight, well, to nominate a candidate 589 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: to replace Biden on the ballot, this is what has 590 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: to happen. 591 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: Number one, The person would have to have the support of. 592 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: A minimum number of Democratic National Committee members. That number 593 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: and this is a guest because the number can change, 594 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: but it's going to be somewhere around at. 595 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: Least sixty of the four thirty five. 596 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: The exact number would be determined, by the way, by 597 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: the DNC's Rules Committee, which would lay out the rules 598 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: for the proceedings before they started. So there's a lot 599 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: of just insanity that could happen even there, but the 600 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: number that most people believe would be around the. 601 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,959 Speaker 2: Number would be around sixty. 602 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: There would likely be nominating speeches by anyone that was 603 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: going to be nominated, and then seconding speeches by people 604 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,719 Speaker 1: that why they're nominating the person. Now, multiple candidates, by 605 00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: the way, could be nominated before the list is what 606 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: will down to the real front runners? I think we 607 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: all know who's going to be on that short list. 608 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: And then the other question is, all right, so if 609 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: we do that, then how do the votes counted? 610 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 2: How does that work? 611 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: The Democrat National Committee would hold its meeting in Washington, 612 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: they believe right, based on everything we've been told, and 613 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: the votes would be counted there. Ballots would be coded, 614 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: they'd be signed and collected by hand. And by the way, 615 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: I bet you have to use an ID to make 616 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: sure you're voting. If not, I'm going to show up 617 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: just say I'm a committee member and see if I 618 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: can vote, because remember Democrats don't believe in voter ID voting. 619 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: But I bet if they're having a Democrat National Committee meeting, 620 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: you're going to have to show some form of ID 621 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: before you vote. 622 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: These are going to be coded, signed, and collected by hand. 623 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: Now, if a vote were to happen that happened, were 624 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: to happen very close to election day, then it gets 625 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: even more crazy. All right, So election day's Imember the fifth, 626 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: because it would not be possible to meet in person, 627 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: So then the meeting would actually be viral. 628 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 2: So you take everything that I just told you into consideration. 629 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: And what this sounds like to many is this would 630 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: be And I'm one of those, it's whether I don't 631 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: I don't care how many Democratic journalists, Okay, I don't 632 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: care how many editorial boards demand that Joe Biden set 633 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: down saying it's time for him to go, that he 634 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: can't win without. 635 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: Joe Biden doing it himself and walking away. 636 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: This thing gets really really nasty, Okay, Like this thing 637 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: gets nasty, It gets ugly. Not not only does it 638 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: get ugly, but it but it also I think would 639 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: divide the party. You'd have a bunch of people screaming race. Okay, 640 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: you'd have a bunch of people screaming, Kamala Harris deserves 641 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: this and it's owed this right like that, Like that 642 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: would be a large part of this. Like they would 643 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: just say it straight up, like, go, hold on, we 644 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: are owed this, she's the one. If you don't pick 645 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 1: a woman, right then it's I think it could be 646 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: a huge problem as. 647 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: Well, like a massive problem. 648 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: So you know, I look at this and what I 649 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: see is a whole another level of corruption. The Democratic 650 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: Party would have an infighting that you couldn't even imagine. 651 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: And I don't believe it would be a coronation at all. Okay, 652 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: Like I think this would be a drag out, knock 653 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: down fight that could divide the party seventeen ways to Sunday. 654 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 2: That's just my gut. This would be an ugly, ugly battle. 655 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 2: And then you'd have to sew. 656 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: Up the wound triage the Democratic Party and then try 657 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: to get them united all behind a candidate. That would 658 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: be extremely, extremely, extremely tough job. 659 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: That would be a tough job for anybody. 660 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: But look, if you're in the if you're a feminist 661 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: and they pick Gavin Newsom, you're gonna be mad. If 662 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: you think a woman should be present, you think it 663 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: should be an African American woman, and you should break 664 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: that glass ceiling, which the Democratic Party is absolutely obsessed with, 665 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: right like they are. 666 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 2: They're obsessed with that and all of a sudden, it 667 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: doesn't go to Kamwa. 668 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: Harris like, I think there's gonna be a lot of 669 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: African Americans women, specifically the BIC I'm done, like like 670 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm out, I'm done, I am done with you. 671 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna Now. 672 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: Does that mean they're gona vote for Trump? Of course not, Okay. 673 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna go vote for Trump. I 674 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: just think they won't vote. I think they'll just go 675 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: home or stay home and they'll say I'm done with you, guys. 676 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: There's also another part right now that's important, and this 677 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: is the last aspect of this that I'm gonna mention, 678 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 1: and that is how much donor fatigue is there right now? 679 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: How much donor fatigue is there people that have given 680 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: a lot of money and raised a lot of money 681 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: and given all this cash to Joe Biden and then 682 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: you're basically with a new candidate starting all over. So 683 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: they're going to come running to you, going, we need 684 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: a bunch of money. Are there going to be a 685 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: lot of people they're gonna be excited about giving major donations? 686 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 6: Right? 687 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: Is there going to be a lot of Democrats? Like yep, No, 688 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm in for another half a million. I'm in for 689 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: another one hundred thousand. You know, these super packs have 690 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 1: been raising all this money and advocating for Joe Biden. 691 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 2: You're going to start all over. 692 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: And so when you do, are there going to be 693 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of donors They're willing to go and basically 694 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: revamp up a new campaign for a new candidate who 695 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: is in theory way. 696 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 2: Behind Donald Trump. 697 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,479 Speaker 1: You notice I have not mentioned Donald Trump name until 698 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: now what forty I mean minutes into this thing. 699 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 2: That's how good it is. 700 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: By the way, for Donald Trump, this is so complicated 701 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: that his name doesn't even come up until forty minutes 702 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: into the conversation. Okay, that and Democrats know this, which 703 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: then brings me to my final play. There's a chance 704 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden, they could say, let's just try to 705 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: get him elected, get across the finish line, Let's try 706 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: to do this thing, and then after we elect him, 707 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 1: we'll force him to step down, or the family may 708 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: say we'll step down. Now, whether you believe them or not, 709 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: that's a different conversation. Okay, whether you believe them or not, 710 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: very very very very very very very different conversation. 711 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 2: You may not believe them, but that could be their plan. 712 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,959 Speaker 1: Hey, we'll get him through, we'll try to knock this out, 713 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: and then maybe he'll resign while in office and the 714 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: vice president becomes the president. Never underestimate how disgusting and 715 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: vile these people in the Democratic Party are. You also 716 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: have to remember their socialists, Communists and Marxists, so they 717 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 1: don't really care about like screwing people, Okay, including Joe Biden. 718 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 1: And don't think for a moment that Joe Biden doesn't 719 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,680 Speaker 1: know that either. 720 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 11: All right, Lastly, please make sure you hit that subscribe 721 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 11: button or auto download button wherever you are listening to 722 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 11: this podcast right now, and take a moment to write 723 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 11: us a five star review. 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