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Speaker 1: fixed this. They're much more building and nourishing, and so

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Stories are one of the most profound ways that we

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Speaker 1: can learn about natural medicine and what they do. Right.

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Speaker 1: That's how they've been passed on for hundreds, sometimes thousands

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Speaker 2: That species that you took. I'm so grateful for this.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is everything I wish that I

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Speaker 2: started taking adaptogens, I think I was working at self

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Speaker 2: and I was like, well, if Amanda takes them, then

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Speaker 2: And so it wasn't until I'd say about two two

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Speaker 2: never looked back. And so I agree with you. I

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Speaker 2: think the stories are important. And I really love your

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Speaker 2: I think that that's something that when things are busy

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Speaker 2: self inventory can make a major, major difference. So thank

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Speaker 2: you so much, Danielle for sharing your wisdom with me.

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Speaker 2: And depending how the hurdlers feel about this, you guys,

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Speaker 2: let me know. But I have a feeling that we

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Speaker 2: in the weeks and the months to come.

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Speaker 1: For sure, thank you so much for having me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it feels like such an important time to really be

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Speaker 1: digging into adaptagens and you know, these natural, long term

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Speaker 1: solutions to our stress response. You know, this year, I've

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Speaker 1: support my stress? You know, it keeps coming unexpectedly. I

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Speaker 1: get another trigger, like every day, every week, what can

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Speaker 1: times that feels so relevant and it's such an easy way.

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Speaker 1: You know, I always say, like add before you take away.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's something that you can add. Think of

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Speaker 1: it like a little gift that you're giving to yourself

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Speaker 1: to feel better every day, you know, in a really

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Speaker 1: really simple, in a simple way that is also delicious,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, check in with yourself, make it, make it

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Speaker 1: something special. And that extra piece of mindfulness goes so

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Speaker 2: I'm about it. Thank you so much. How did the

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Speaker 2: hurdlers find you? How do they keep up with you?

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Speaker 2: Give me the details.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, my website is Danielle Ryanwellness dot com. You

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Speaker 1: can also find me on four sigmatic dot com. We

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Speaker 1: just launched a great mushroom academy. It's totally free, so

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Speaker 1: you can go check that out on for sigmatic dot

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Speaker 1: com on social either at for Sigmatic or at Danielle

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Speaker 1: Ryan Bryda.

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Speaker 2: I dig it, I am at Emily a Body an

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Speaker 2: at Hurdle Podcast. Another Hurdle Conquered. Catch you guys next

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