Speaker 1: So first of all, it's Writer's not here.
Speaker 2: No writer is gone, so let's talk about him.
Speaker 3: It's about time we've done it. We got rid of
Speaker 3: what we wanted this whole time. It has been a
Speaker 3: secret mission of ours to just drive rid away.
Speaker 2: And I think we finally don't know we love him.
Speaker 4: We listen.
Speaker 3: And you know, we can say whatever we want about him,
Speaker 3: because he's not going to listen to pod Meats World.
Speaker 2: Zero chance he would listen to an interview. He wasn't
Speaker 2: even a part of zero I could say anything.
Speaker 3: Right now, we can say every one about writer. What
Speaker 3: do you want to say about it? Let's start this
Speaker 3: close and work out No, I'm kidding. I actually I
Speaker 3: don't know if you can hear. But once again, as
Speaker 3: always have my sinus issue.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I know I and you were like, no,
Speaker 2: it's just whatever this is.
Speaker 1: It's been a year.
Speaker 3: So I have a question for our dear listeners out there,
Speaker 3: because my several doctors have said I should get the
Speaker 3: sinus the draino surgery right the rotor ruter of my
Speaker 3: my skull.
Speaker 2: Call you have a deviated septum.
Speaker 3: Well, part of it is deviated septom, but it's also
Speaker 3: the this is gonna be so fun. The uh, entry
Speaker 3: ways to my sinuses are very small, like like freakishly.
Speaker 2: Small, right, so they need to they want to make
Speaker 2: your holes bigger. Exactly.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's gonna be a lot of that's what she
Speaker 3: said on this episode.
Speaker 1: But they want to They wanna slide into my holes
Speaker 1: and make.
Speaker 2: Them bigger, make a bigger Okay, I got it.
Speaker 3: So here's what I want to ask our listeners because
Speaker 3: I need help. Let's say, for instance, since I've talked
Speaker 3: to fifteen people that have had this procedure done. Yeah,
Speaker 3: five say it's the best thing they've ever done.
Speaker 1: It's changed their life.
Speaker 4: Hmmm.
Speaker 3: Five say it didn't do anything for them, but it
Speaker 3: didn't affect them in any way, shape or form, good
Speaker 3: or bad. And five say it's the worst decision they've
Speaker 3: ever made and they would never do it again. They've
Speaker 3: had to have mop up surgeries. So it's like, I
Speaker 3: literally have no idea. You talk to one person like,
Speaker 3: do it change your life? Another person going, oh my god,
Speaker 3: it's the worst thing that's ever happened.
Speaker 1: I would never So I have no idea what to do.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do.
Speaker 3: So I'm throwing it out there like I wants some people,
Speaker 3: somebody tell me what to do because I don't.
Speaker 2: Know what does the doctor you've met with I've met
Speaker 2: with several, Okay, you've met with several. What do they say?
Speaker 2: Do they also say like, yeah, it sometimes it's great.
Speaker 1: No, depends on the doctor.
Speaker 3: All of them say the same thing, and they say
Speaker 3: it tongue in cheek jokingly. They all go, well, we
Speaker 3: love to perform surgery, so I'd be happy to do it.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's creepy and weird.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: One of them said, how did you get into my house? Okay,
Speaker 3: which in hindsight, I probably shouldn't have just gone in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or we should make an appointment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that wasn't right. But yeah, they're all trying different stuff.
Speaker 3: So I'm shooting things inside and I'm steroids this time.
Speaker 1: But then my face has gotten really puffy.
Speaker 3: From the steroids and the and the sinus says like,
Speaker 3: I've been looking on our zooms lately, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm running all the time and eating, Well, why do
Speaker 3: I look like I have balloon face? And it's because
Speaker 3: of all the side the steroids I have to take
Speaker 3: for this stuff. Oh so I don't know if I
Speaker 3: should just have my head cut off. I don't know
Speaker 3: what I should do.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing. Is this fun?
Speaker 4: Proof?
Speaker 1: This is let's go back to sliding into holes. It's
Speaker 1: better and er.
Speaker 2: I have a doctor friend that I talked to for
Speaker 2: advice rather often. His name is doctor Michael Richmond, and
Speaker 2: he's great. He is a friend. But also we pay him.
Speaker 3: Sure, I pay most of my friends, by the way,
Speaker 3: the check is in the mail, thank you.
Speaker 2: But I I'll ask him his opinion because he's a
Speaker 2: very straight shooter and will mostly tell you, and he
Speaker 2: may even have somebody then that he would recommend. Because
Speaker 2: I really do think with varying degrees of like you
Speaker 2: perfectly selected the number fifteen and said, there's a third,
Speaker 2: a third that says every single thing. Yeah, it feels
Speaker 2: to me like it might be a very specific doctor thing,
Speaker 2: like you need to have somebody who really knows what
Speaker 2: they're doing because the potential for it to either be
Speaker 2: useless or bad is high.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I don't know.
Speaker 3: The one thing everyone agrees on whether they say it helped,
Speaker 3: it did nothing, or it hurt.
Speaker 1: Everyone says it's horribly painful for like a week nd.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oof.
Speaker 3: Yeah, They're like, you just want to kill your face
Speaker 3: for at least ten days after.
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 2: Is that also the same pain people feel after a
Speaker 2: nose job?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 2: What it is?
Speaker 4: Maybe?
Speaker 2: Is that I don't know?
Speaker 3: Which is still one of the greatest words ever rhinoplasty.
Speaker 3: I know, plasty, I know, I mean, come on, that's awesome.
Speaker 2: I know. Jensen hates the word bleferoplasty. He hates the
Speaker 2: extra eye. Yeah, he hates bleff, upper bleff. It's like
Speaker 2: moist to him. Anytime I'm like I need an upper bluff,
Speaker 2: He's like, oh God, are.
Speaker 1: You going to get a bluff of bless No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, okay, I get a bluff. I do, though,
Speaker 2: have one more hooded eye than the other. This eyelid
Speaker 2: is a little heavier than this eyelid.
Speaker 3: But I have that with this my this one. But
Speaker 3: it's because I've been wearing my fake.
Speaker 2: Eye, my kind of glass eye.
Speaker 3: I think it's been blinking over a contact for so long.
Speaker 3: It's like it's lower than this lid.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, you know, our eyes and our eyebrow,
Speaker 2: our faces are not perfectly symmetrical, and I think also
Speaker 2: that's why.
Speaker 3: You're so handsome, perfect, perfect particular face, like.
Speaker 2: Your best friend. But yeah, I don't know. I think
Speaker 2: also depending on which side is your dominant side even
Speaker 2: on your face, or also which side you sleep on,
Speaker 2: like all these things affect how your face wears over
Speaker 2: the years.
Speaker 1: That makes sense.
Speaker 3: Sue's new favorite thing is to just wait around a
Speaker 3: corner wearing her red light mask.
Speaker 1: So like I turned the corner, I'm like, god, yikes.
Speaker 2: Jensen loved it when I first got my red light mask.
Speaker 2: Speaking of which do you do you wear the red
Speaker 2: light mask?
Speaker 1: I don't should I?
Speaker 2: All right, listen, this is again not an ad I pay.
Speaker 2: Actually I didn't pay for my red light mask. My
Speaker 2: hairdresser Lori Heaps and my makeup artist Julie Cuomo gifted
Speaker 2: me a Sola Wave red light mask.
Speaker 1: Oh that's sweet.
Speaker 2: A couple of a couple of Christmases ago, and for
Speaker 2: the very longest time it just sat in the box
Speaker 2: and I was of the like beauty maintenance type person
Speaker 2: that was like, I don't have time for all the
Speaker 2: things we're supposed to do. If I drink all my water,
Speaker 2: if I get all my sleep, if I wear all
Speaker 2: the masks, if I do the serums, where else where
Speaker 2: do you have time the working out, the eating well,
Speaker 2: the children? And so I was like, I don't have
Speaker 2: time to you know. I think at the time, it
Speaker 2: was like this red light mask was it was a
Speaker 2: ten minute timer. It's like, give me a break. And
Speaker 2: then then I started seeing it all over the socials.
Speaker 2: Everybody's red light masking, and everyone's claiming it does great things.
Speaker 2: And finally I said, you know, I'm going to do it.
Speaker 2: I get into bed and I either scroll mindlessly or
Speaker 2: I read or I do something. Anyway, why not put
Speaker 2: that on my face? Yeah? Multitask. So I started wearing
Speaker 2: my red light mask, and wouldn't you know it, but
Speaker 2: the little rosatia that I have had my entire adult
Speaker 2: life on my cheeks just went away.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: And I couldn't believe it. I was like waking up
Speaker 2: in the morning because I was used it. So I
Speaker 2: was using it every single night. And I don't even know.
Speaker 3: If you're sposed to it, right, it's what you're supposed
Speaker 3: to one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they actually recommend three to five
Speaker 2: times a week. But you know me, I don't believe
Speaker 2: in instructions, I just do what I want, and so
Speaker 2: I did once a day, every night, seven days a week,
Speaker 2: and within a couple of weeks, I was waking up
Speaker 2: and going to like put my makeup on in the
Speaker 2: morning and going, huh, well, my cheeks look great. Wonder
Speaker 2: what caused that? Just not even putting all together. But yes,
Speaker 2: it's it's the red light mask. So I started using it,
Speaker 2: was using it religiously for a long time, then brought
Speaker 2: it on tour with me for the Dancing with the
Speaker 2: Stars tour, used it consistently while I was on tour,
Speaker 2: and then on my flight home apparently the mask broke.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I didn't pack it well, and the something
Speaker 2: about it being in my suitcase, the connection from the
Speaker 2: little charging cord into the mask lost connection, and it
Speaker 2: was like intermittent turning and turning on an off, turning
Speaker 2: on off, And I was like, oh no. And I
Speaker 2: went two weeks without wearing my red light mask, and
Speaker 2: all my roseesha came back and my face looked dull,
Speaker 2: and then there was no question to me, this solo
Speaker 2: wave red light mask had made a difference in my face.
Speaker 2: So long story short, I have since replaced my solo
Speaker 2: wave mask. My skin is back to glowing. My rose
Speaker 2: sha is gone. And I would just like people to
Speaker 2: know if you're on the fence about a red light mask,
Speaker 2: it really do it. And so you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know they make them for moonfaces?
Speaker 1: Do they make them forer moon paste?
Speaker 4: To go?
Speaker 3: By the way, the one thing, it's so funny that
Speaker 3: you mentioned that, because the one thing most people talk
Speaker 3: about with you.
Speaker 1: Is how dull your face is. How dull I know, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got I get. That's like hashtag dull face. I hear.
Speaker 1: I see that all the time. And in relation to
Speaker 1: you and.
Speaker 3: How you look, thank you, Daniel, Dolphace is what people
Speaker 3: call you quite a bit. Susan also recommends, first of all,
Speaker 3: if you wear a mask that looks like that and
Speaker 3: glows red, you should have superpowers.
Speaker 2: That's yours.
Speaker 3: Secondly, she also says that hers has a blue light setting.
Speaker 3: I know if she has breakouts.
Speaker 2: Or yes for acne. Incredible, incredible. And now, by the way,
Speaker 2: the red light masks mine is three minutes. They somehow
Speaker 2: made it just as powerful in three minutes as it
Speaker 2: does and ten. So you know, again I don't follow
Speaker 2: any rules. Sometimes I wear it for twice. I wear
Speaker 2: it twice.
Speaker 3: You well, I was gonna say, if you if you
Speaker 3: put it on your face but also throw in a
Speaker 3: bag of microwave popcorn.
Speaker 1: Can you do two things at once where all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you just it starts popping on your face and.
Speaker 2: Then listen, that's what she said again, and we're back.
Speaker 1: We don't need Rider.
Speaker 2: Welcome to vond meets World. I'm Daniel Fischl and I'm
Speaker 2: will for now.
Speaker 3: I was holding I was I was a momentary moment
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Speaker 2: Can we both heard it in our minds and then
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Speaker 1: And I'm will for dell.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 2: The fraternity of actors who have returned to the roles
Speaker 2: that made them famous decades later is a tight knit group.
Speaker 2: Take it from us. Whether it's the Fuller House Crew,
Speaker 2: or Kyle McLaughlin in Twin Peaks, the Night Court Cast,
Speaker 2: or even most recently, Frankie Munez is Malcolm. We all
Speaker 2: get together once a year for a mixer and talk
Speaker 2: about how we can truly never escape our past. Time
Speaker 2: is a flat circle. Everything dies, YadA, YadA, YadA. It
Speaker 2: sounds dark, but I promise it's actually pretty fun, very
Speaker 2: good our duves, and this year we're excited to be
Speaker 2: welcoming a new brother to the club. Let's consider this
Speaker 2: his entry interview. Somehow, his first job in Hollywood cast
Speaker 2: him in the worldwide phenomenon Baywatch as Cody Madison. For
Speaker 2: seasons six through nine, he'd sport the iconic red shorts
Speaker 2: alongside Pamela Anderson, Carmen Electra and our co star. No
Speaker 2: matter what she says yas mean Bleef.
Speaker 1: She was there, she was I saw her, I saw her,
Speaker 1: I shook her hand. It's on tape.
Speaker 2: Talk about an introduction to the business. And now thirty
Speaker 2: years later, he's returning to the Lifeguard Tower for a
Speaker 2: Baywatch revival and the cast is shaping up to be
Speaker 2: I know this will come as very surprising, y good looking,
Speaker 2: and of all the announcements about the show, the most
Speaker 2: exciting to us. This week's guest will be back to
Speaker 2: reprise his character, now older, wiser and bar owning, giving
Speaker 2: out advice to the new recruits and teaching them how
Speaker 2: to run down a beach in slow motion. And when
Speaker 2: he's not saving lives on TV, he's doing it for
Speaker 2: dogs in real life as part of Wings of Rescue,
Speaker 2: a nonprofit organization that flies at risk pets from overcrowded
Speaker 2: shelters and disaster areas to safe havens and new homes,
Speaker 2: venting euthanasia and encouraging the incredible act of animal adoption.
Speaker 2: A great addition to our group of unescapable long term
Speaker 2: TV characters if you ask me so, Welcome to Pod
Speaker 2: meets World, a Baywatch icon on the verge of doing
Speaker 2: it all over again. It's David Chokichi.
Speaker 4: Hello.
Speaker 2: Ay, are you guys doing great?
Speaker 4: How are you? I'm doing great?
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for taking time out of your
Speaker 2: day to hang out with us. While researching, we realized
Speaker 2: that that Baywatch was your very first Hollywood job. Is
Speaker 2: that true?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Like big one.
Speaker 5: I mean I had done some commercials, a couple like National,
Speaker 5: like even though I booked out a like two out
Speaker 5: of Boston.
Speaker 4: I think we're like like Miller like commercials, and then
Speaker 4: a couple of commercials.
Speaker 5: Here, but nothing nothing, you know, nothing legit, nothing real
Speaker 5: like that was the first big thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Are you aware that that's not how it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1: You're not playing by the rules. That's not how it works.
Speaker 1: You don't just.
Speaker 5: Time though. I mean I was grinding. I mean I like,
Speaker 5: you know, I would study. I had a construction job.
Speaker 5: I'm a car caverner by trade, but you know, I
Speaker 5: would work for this guy and then I'd go to
Speaker 5: class at night and I squeeze in the gym in
Speaker 5: between and just do it every day and realize, you know,
Speaker 5: it's I wasn't.
Speaker 4: I wasn't. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I got here like a day and a half before
Speaker 5: the Northridge earthquake literally, which is trip.
Speaker 4: So I would come up here.
Speaker 5: Well, I already had an agency like that. You know,
Speaker 5: we had to mail stuff back in the day. Like,
Speaker 5: so I was with a place called Hero and they
Speaker 5: had the small theatrical division and the commercial and uh
Speaker 5: and a print division and so I had one thing
Speaker 5: set up that was the but and then this acting
Speaker 5: coach was like and it was.
Speaker 4: It was he was hilarious.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so they get here on Saturday and Monday
Speaker 5: morning at like three money whatever I am.
Speaker 4: It's like boom, and then you know, I just I pivoted.
Speaker 4: I end up a buddy of mine who's a little
Speaker 4: bit older, work for FEMA. He's like because there's enough.
Speaker 5: Obviously the entertainment is shut down. And he's like, yeah, David,
Speaker 5: do you want to go inspect chimneys in north Ridge?
Speaker 5: Since you have a construction background, here's an iPad you try.
Speaker 5: You get like, I don't know, it was like one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty bucks a house. All you have to
Speaker 5: do is go in and like you check out the
Speaker 5: chimney and you say it's structurally sound, needs.
Speaker 4: Work or unsound.
Speaker 5: Basically, it's just like and I'd be like, you know, hello,
Speaker 5: here it's chimney for FEMA and they get some money
Speaker 5: out of it too. And so I did that for
Speaker 5: six months and then the business kind of came back
Speaker 5: online and wow, just yeah, just went.
Speaker 4: Back at it.
Speaker 1: Can I now I've done a little research as well.
Speaker 3: I'd like to throw out some names of places that
Speaker 3: were important to me as a child, and I want
Speaker 3: to hear if any.
Speaker 1: Of those places were important to you. Okay, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: go Riches, rosen Vicki's.
Speaker 3: Oh man, you're from Plymouth myself, Well, my family is
Speaker 3: from Plymouth. I live in Connecticut, but we we had
Speaker 3: a house in Manamet and my aunt and uncle were
Speaker 3: teachers in the Plymouth school system. So when I saw
Speaker 3: that you were from Plymouth, I was like, Okay, we've
Speaker 3: got we've got to talk about.
Speaker 4: The riches one for a second.
Speaker 5: You had me, and I was like, okay, And now
Speaker 5: that that was like the worst but the greatest department.
Speaker 4: Store of all time. And at Rosen Vicki Subs.
Speaker 3: Come on rose Vicky Subs, which started as a pie shop,
Speaker 3: which had the greatest Dutch apple crumpie in the world.
Speaker 3: By the way, Danielle, these are places from Plymouth, massach
Speaker 3: I gather.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's a Massachusetts thing.
Speaker 4: But man, that's a that's a good way to play.
Speaker 4: That's a good way to start.
Speaker 2: Isn't that fun?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, my my aunt and uncle were both teachers in
Speaker 3: the Plymouth school I saw them this weekend and I
Speaker 3: was back in Connecticut and I asked, and my aunt says,
Speaker 3: she might have actually remembered you from school.
Speaker 4: No way. I love it.
Speaker 3: So the Alzheimer's if you ever had a teacher, Jeanette Alzheimer,
Speaker 3: that was that's my aunt.
Speaker 1: She was in the pre school systems forever.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god, I'm sure I did. At some point. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I saw that.
Speaker 1: I was like he's from Plymouth, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: talk about Plymouth. I couldn't believe man's great.
Speaker 5: It's so hard to get out of, like I mean
Speaker 5: to escape, like yeah, even.
Speaker 4: New England in general.
Speaker 5: Like all my buddies, I went to Bates and played
Speaker 5: football lacrosse, and but everybody kind of everybody got we
Speaker 5: all travel across country, about six of us after that summer,
Speaker 5: and then everybody's staying at real serious jobs right away.
Speaker 5: And I was like, you guys are insane. You're lucked
Speaker 5: in for life now. And I was like, you know,
Speaker 5: there was a moment for sure. My parents were like,
Speaker 5: well what are you doing? And I was so I
Speaker 5: you know, I rolled the dice and.
Speaker 4: I've been out here.
Speaker 5: I've been to LA for lacrosse trip and spent time here,
Speaker 5: and I was like, you know, like part of my life.
Speaker 4: I just want I want to live there. So like
Speaker 4: my parents like, if you don't support yourself, like go
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 5: Like so I literally, like when I moved after the earthquake,
Speaker 5: I was living on a guy's floor up above, like
Speaker 5: the viper room on Larrabie and I'm moving into this
Speaker 5: place in Brentwood and this guy it's like on the
Speaker 5: edge of Brentwood.
Speaker 4: So it was like it's called Chasais apartments.
Speaker 5: They were just like it was like threes company, but
Speaker 5: downgraded by ten. The guys renovating in the place and
Speaker 5: I'm carrying my bags up to this. I mean it
Speaker 5: was yeah, it's pretty pretty remedial place.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, hey, man, if you ever need someone
Speaker 4: who can swing your hammer, I'm good at swinging a hammer.
Speaker 4: He said, yeah, yeah, right whatever. Next morning he knocks
Speaker 4: on my door at seven am.
Speaker 5: He's like, you want to go to work, and I
Speaker 5: was like yes. He gave me a belt like a
Speaker 5: tool belt. I worked for him all the way through,
Speaker 5: Like he let me audition during the day, go and
Speaker 5: come back because I would just work. You know, I
Speaker 5: grew up with great work ethic to my parents and
Speaker 5: then also from you know, construction crew back East. If
Speaker 5: you're slow, they're like, why don't you read a coffee?
Speaker 5: You know, you're just not and you're like whoa, Like
Speaker 5: you cannot like like if they are fun, like you
Speaker 5: were on your phone day on in New England, like
Speaker 5: they would tear your pieces.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, lamb my lamb. They'd be like yeah and
Speaker 4: then like get off. So yeah, I went to this guy.
Speaker 4: Even after I got bay Watch, I had jumped ship,
Speaker 4: which I could.
Speaker 5: Have, I stayed because he was so cool to me.
Speaker 5: I just I stayed with him right up until I
Speaker 5: really needed to commit and start shooting.
Speaker 2: So do you remember your audition for Baywatch?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I remember walking the initial one because
Speaker 5: it was it's like, it was beyond memorable. I mean
Speaker 5: I walk in. I mean I remember getting it and
Speaker 5: I worked on the lot with my coach. It's a chase.
Speaker 5: He was a legendary coach at the time. He's passed
Speaker 5: away since. But you know, I had prepped it, and
Speaker 5: then I walk into two casting directors where they had
Speaker 5: seemed out like a thousand guys like East Coast, West Coast,
Speaker 5: they could end Cody man Adis was written by Debra Schwartz,
Speaker 5: was the wife of Doug Schwartz was one of the
Speaker 5: original executive producers and creators, and when she wrote the characters,
Speaker 5: she had someone very specific in mind, kind of physically
Speaker 5: and spiritually, you know, in a certain way, just embodying
Speaker 5: this like mid Midwest slash. It could be East Coast.
Speaker 4: But just like a very kind of earthy kind of guy,
Speaker 4: but not like no ego, like he was just looking anyway.
Speaker 5: I walked in the room. It was just to be
Speaker 5: read for them. The first audition in their heads are
Speaker 5: like this. They were like, you know, just beating down.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I walk in and they're like holy Like I'm like,
Speaker 4: I didn't say and I just stood there. I'm like,
Speaker 4: You're like, you're the guy. You're the guy we.
Speaker 5: Have been looking for. You're the guy that she hasn't mind.
Speaker 5: Please tell us you can act, Please tell.
Speaker 2: Us you Oh my gosh, you hadn't even started yet.
Speaker 4: Heard. I didn't say one word.
Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, you're not doing this right, David.
Speaker 3: The way that the way it's working out for you,
Speaker 3: this is not you're not playing by the room.
Speaker 4: What I've learned.
Speaker 5: What I've learned because this this a similar thing happened
Speaker 5: when I got when I had to we had to
Speaker 5: do a task back when we had to like test
Speaker 5: for people like which Wade, and I was up for
Speaker 5: the role of Jake McCarty against this other guy who
Speaker 5: was more he was kind of a movie star.
Speaker 4: And I'll never forget it because it was down to
Speaker 4: him and I in the final.
Speaker 5: Deal like and so you know, that's when you go
Speaker 5: in the theater to all the executives and the stadium
Speaker 5: seating in your life is either the one like this or.
Speaker 4: It's going like kind of like this, yeah, and it's
Speaker 4: all on you. And I remember he was so cocky.
Speaker 5: He was like journaling his thing, and I'm like like
Speaker 5: studying or doing breath work and like get.
Speaker 4: Like just training in the zone. I go in, crush it.
Speaker 4: He goes in.
Speaker 5: I got find out from that showrunner afterwards, like he
Speaker 5: fumbled his way through it.
Speaker 4: Basically they couldn't get the words out. They had me
Speaker 4: come back in. The guy came out, gave me notes.
Speaker 4: I went back in, and I got it.
Speaker 5: And I also happened to look a lot like the
Speaker 5: comic book character itself, Like if you went with Jake
Speaker 5: McCarty in the comic book It's Which Way is a
Speaker 5: famous comic book, very similar kind of so.
Speaker 4: That was part of it.
Speaker 5: But like that arrogance and this kid, like I'll never
Speaker 5: forget that moment, Like it was kind of as surreal
Speaker 5: as the moment when I walked in and see Ferns Tuessay,
Speaker 5: like the casting directors for Baywatch, because it was just
Speaker 5: like one of those things like, oh my god, I
Speaker 5: wish I could just like strangle you dude, like you're
Speaker 5: so like just like the arrogance. And then he goes
Speaker 5: in like totally like dive bombs and I go in
Speaker 5: and crush it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, you're reminded like, yeah, that's why I do.
Speaker 1: This, that's yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: There's there's a payoff for being dedicated to my craft.
Speaker 4: Exactly. It's seriously and not like have ego about it,
Speaker 4: like yeah, that was astonishing. But yeah. So that was
Speaker 4: my first many big wat traditions.
Speaker 5: And then we had to do a swim task because
Speaker 5: they had been burned by now actress who they found
Speaker 5: out after they cast her, and she ran up to.
Speaker 4: The like they're like, okay, she's going to shoot a rescue.
Speaker 4: They're shooting a rescue.
Speaker 5: She runs the water's edge and she stops and they're
Speaker 5: like what's going on. She's like, Oh, I'm not swimming
Speaker 5: out there.
Speaker 4: What are you talking about. I'm afraid of sharks. I'm
Speaker 4: not going to the ocean.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about.
Speaker 5: I'm deadly afraid sharks. I don't swim in the ocean.
Speaker 5: And they're like, oh, my gosh. So they have to
Speaker 5: get like a stunt doable. So she runs the water's
Speaker 5: edge stunt, double does the rescue, pulls the person in
Speaker 5: hiding their face, hiding their face. She doesn't like that
Speaker 5: had to go on until they released that actors. Then
Speaker 5: they made people do the water that's right thrive because
Speaker 5: I grew up on I was on a swim team,
Speaker 5: and I.
Speaker 4: Had all these ocean skills.
Speaker 5: My mom was a sailor from the Cape from she
Speaker 5: grew up in Let's see, I.
Speaker 1: Don't okay, sure, so she run.
Speaker 4: Sailing right there.
Speaker 5: And then as young kids we started sailboat racing, and
Speaker 5: then I went on to like teach sailing, head.
Speaker 4: Sitting started them.
Speaker 5: I actually went to the Junior Olympics and windsurf racing
Speaker 5: like try and go race like like booie racing. But
Speaker 5: I had all these all these skills I brought to
Speaker 5: the table and it was kind of like like even
Speaker 5: being on a swim team, because I was portraying an
Speaker 5: Olympic swimmer. You know, Cody was trying to go to
Speaker 5: the Olympics and it's like you can't jump in the pool.
Speaker 5: As you know, actors think they can learn everything in
Speaker 5: like three weeks.
Speaker 4: And it's just it's not that way, you know.
Speaker 5: It's like driving boats takes years of same with wave runners,
Speaker 5: like in terms of getting kind of precision with them,
Speaker 5: but like we would have to drive them off to
Speaker 5: kind of spin them, install them right in front of
Speaker 5: the cameras that are on sticks in the water, so
Speaker 5: the crew part of the crews in the water and
Speaker 5: they're like, don't hit us, dude. I'm like, don't worry
Speaker 5: about me about these right, And I would now and
Speaker 5: then some of them they wouldn't let anybody is it
Speaker 5: myself and like Mike Newman pretty much do those precision
Speaker 5: either wave runner or boat rescue with a big yellow
Speaker 5: scare about to coming close to Venice Peer, because they
Speaker 5: would just it's a lot. It takes years of experience,
Speaker 5: and I had it. So they once they saw what
Speaker 5: I could do, they would just start writing elaborate rescues
Speaker 5: and action for me. And they're like, oh my god,
Speaker 5: we had the jack Bottle of the skidding. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, were you a Baywatch fan before you auditioned for
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 5: No. The funniest thing is, so I run this part too,
Speaker 5: and my buddy's out here I'm just so. I went
Speaker 5: to Bates College in Maine's Division III football, but I
Speaker 5: missed football to this day.
Speaker 4: I dream about it. And the weirdest ball is never snapped.
Speaker 5: It's my We had a terrible team, but we had
Speaker 5: a great defense, and we just love I played strong safety.
Speaker 4: We loved to knock dudes out, like hit as hard
Speaker 4: as we could.
Speaker 5: And I remember like Baywatch was on and it'd be
Speaker 5: Saturday night and we'd be going to the Slopo Bar
Speaker 5: in Maine, like that was our ritual, and my.
Speaker 4: Buddy would be like, so we walked by.
Speaker 5: He's got his archie bunker chair and he's like watching
Speaker 5: Like I'm like like, hey, come on, dude, we're going.
Speaker 4: He's like, no way, dude, they watch us on like
Speaker 4: gave me you're gonna watch this stupid show.
Speaker 5: And I didn't say stupid, just like I don't even
Speaker 5: know if I knew like what it was back then,
Speaker 5: but I was like, why would you sit in and
Speaker 5: like watch TV.
Speaker 4: He's like, have you seen this show?
Speaker 5: I was like, I'll and then fast forward and he's
Speaker 5: like wait a minute, You've got the show and then
Speaker 5: see making up with him and he's like, oh, my
Speaker 5: buddy's from New England are like, what happened?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: How is this happening?
Speaker 3: It's also the most California show you could possibly ever
Speaker 3: get on.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well I grew up in New England and
Speaker 4: you know, I'd go we would.
Speaker 5: Go whatever we cris around Boston and the bars and
Speaker 5: what h And people would be like, what part of
Speaker 5: southern California are you from?
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm from Plumbus, dude away.
Speaker 2: You joined the show in season six and the phenomenon
Speaker 2: that was Baywatch is now in like full swing. Was
Speaker 2: it easy to just step into the cast dynamic? We
Speaker 2: know that sometimes it can be rather difficult to jump
Speaker 2: in with an established clique.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, they could not have been. Everybody was
Speaker 4: so warm and welcoming.
Speaker 5: It was just a pressure I put on myself, Like
Speaker 5: I remember that the first scene. It's like I look
Speaker 5: at it and I'm like, I remember exactly like how
Speaker 5: nervous I was. And I was like, because you're stepping
Speaker 5: into something that's they've been together, you know, hey, And
Speaker 5: I'm like learning, like what.
Speaker 4: It's like to be in front of a crew of
Speaker 4: like one.
Speaker 5: Hundred and it's your clothes up and like on and
Speaker 5: on and on hit marks, and luckily they were really
Speaker 5: cool about like they gave you if you were doing
Speaker 5: the work, if you were working with your acting coach,
Speaker 5: and if you were picking it up quickly.
Speaker 4: And then also the fitness side of it I saw
Speaker 4: really quickly was was.
Speaker 5: Like the more fit you were, the reaction from the writers,
Speaker 5: the producers, the fans, it was like the more episodes
Speaker 5: they were putting in because they just wanted to see
Speaker 5: fit males and females. So I busted my bot with that.
Speaker 5: And then yeah, so, but initially the first after probably
Speaker 5: three hours, I was like, Okay, I see what's.
Speaker 4: Going on here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And then once I got going, it was like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, I was made for this show, like this,
Speaker 5: this is my this is my wheelhouse.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like Fastball and coming down and played.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I just loved it.
Speaker 2: Pamela Anderson was going through a fame that maybe comes
Speaker 2: around once in a generation, and you were paired with
Speaker 2: her for an on screen romance. Was it unreal to
Speaker 2: you as well? Going from an actor looking to work
Speaker 2: being paired with the hottest woman in the world at
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 5: I you know, it was a little bit surreal because
Speaker 5: they actually had come to me. I'd like earned my
Speaker 5: status really quickly up up the ladder. And they were like,
Speaker 5: but you were going to give you the option for
Speaker 5: a girlfriend on the show, do you want pant like
Speaker 5: Pam or yas mean? And I was like, are you serious?
Speaker 5: You're me and like yeah, and I was, and I
Speaker 5: loved you as me And she was like all of
Speaker 5: us like she was hysterically in her own way. But
Speaker 5: Pam and I had this kind of self deprecating humor.
Speaker 5: We had this kind of she I have some strong
Speaker 5: finished heritage.
Speaker 4: My grandma was born in Finland. She has strong finish.
Speaker 5: We kind of bonded over some things, and we never
Speaker 5: took ourselves that seriously or too seriously, like we're actors
Speaker 5: and we're on the number one children world like. Even
Speaker 5: though she had all that attention, she was still very
Speaker 5: grounded in that period of time, and and we just
Speaker 5: had a way of like making making the most out
Speaker 5: of moments together. And so of course I was like, well,
Speaker 5: I mean I felt bad, like yeah, Pam because for
Speaker 5: a number of reasons, but mainly because you know, we
Speaker 5: just had this There was a kind of a goofiness
Speaker 5: to both of us that we and you like, when
Speaker 5: we had to do these montages usually comes out and
Speaker 5: it's it's and you still see I look back and
Speaker 5: I'm like, those were awesome because we were we were
Speaker 5: actually like.
Speaker 4: We just weren't. We were.
Speaker 5: It was like nobody else was around us, and you're
Speaker 5: just like there's no cameras, there was no people, and
Speaker 5: we're just like, I.
Speaker 4: Don't know, they're they're really cool. So, yeah, we had
Speaker 4: a great time, and yeah, she was, she was. I
Speaker 4: don't know, I was never like, I mean, I think,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 5: I'm super thankful that I grew up in New England
Speaker 5: and was unaware of like the hype, and I mean
Speaker 5: I was, I was obsessed with movies and actors, but
Speaker 5: I wasn't like I wasn't intimidated intimidated by other other
Speaker 5: actors or actresses. It was more, you know, it was
Speaker 5: just I kind of felt like I belonged, this is
Speaker 5: where I belonged kind of thing. So and yeah, her
Speaker 5: and like a great time and then she she left
Speaker 5: like I proposed her at the end of season nine,
Speaker 5: this cool moment, and she didn't come back the next season.
Speaker 1: Well here's your answer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So you go, you join the cast of, as
Speaker 3: you said, the number one show in the world. How
Speaker 3: quickly does your life change once you join the cast?
Speaker 4: Well, here's the deal.
Speaker 5: So I get the phone call and you know, you think,
Speaker 5: they go, congratulations, you got the.
Speaker 4: Job, and then they go, by the way, here's the deal.
Speaker 4: They're going to guarantee you.
Speaker 5: It's a five year deal, like that's like a series
Speaker 5: regular deal, and they're going to guarantee you seven out
Speaker 5: of twenty two, with the option you can do more
Speaker 5: if they like you, or the option they could basically
Speaker 5: kind of drop.
Speaker 4: You if you don't. If you don't Wow, I was like, yay.
Speaker 5: What.
Speaker 2: Contract goes one way?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I was like, oh man, but I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't like that in my head. All it did
Speaker 4: was like I doubled down.
Speaker 5: I was like, like there was nothing stopping me from
Speaker 5: giving my like one thousand percent. And I didn't fall
Speaker 5: into any of the pitfalls like people fall into, Like
Speaker 5: I just I just stayed away from him and I
Speaker 5: worked my like it went back to work ethic, like
Speaker 5: every day like you shoot in the sun everything.
Speaker 4: So it's like, yeah, I can make a bay Watch.
Speaker 4: It's super easy. It's either like freezing cold or just
Speaker 4: like burning hot.
Speaker 5: So like you go home and like you I've done
Speaker 5: at six thirty and like the last thing you want
Speaker 5: to do is go work out and then go work
Speaker 5: with your coach.
Speaker 4: But I just would do it.
Speaker 5: I would do it, and I would be relentless about it,
Speaker 5: and it paid off, like and you know, I just
Speaker 5: and that first season, so I ended up doing like
Speaker 5: nineteen or twenty at twenty two.
Speaker 4: Instead of like that, I just kind of like game
Speaker 4: one of the main dudes and went from there. Where
Speaker 4: work ethic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one point one billion viewers estimated weekly
Speaker 2: audience for a bay Watch, and I.
Speaker 5: Was there was only five point three billion on the planets.
Speaker 3: One fifth of the one fifth of the world. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was watching you in slow motion.
Speaker 5: I and I've got some remote places and most remote
Speaker 5: I'm like, and we're a bay of Watch pop stuff.
Speaker 5: It's just it's like it's I don't think there's any
Speaker 5: ever been anything that's penetrated so far out. Like I mean,
Speaker 5: we were in the Galapagos on a trip and on
Speaker 5: the National Geographic Boats and the Ecuadorian Guide.
Speaker 4: So the big boat.
Speaker 5: It's like it's like a mini cruise ship kind of thing,
Speaker 5: but it's a geographic And then you get in these
Speaker 5: little like the rubber the motorized boats to go to
Speaker 5: shore and they have a red rescue cam. So as
Speaker 5: they're prepping us and we're getting left jackets get on
Speaker 5: the boat to go to the land, to each island whatever,
Speaker 5: They're like, okay, you know, light jackets and this is
Speaker 5: our red rest you can fall in.
Speaker 4: We call this Pamela. We're gonna throw it to you.
Speaker 4: And I was like wait what So I did say.
Speaker 5: Like two days and the ago it's the most remote
Speaker 5: place on the Earth.
Speaker 4: And then the two days later we were on the
Speaker 4: beach and.
Speaker 5: I was like I finally told the guides and they
Speaker 5: were like their minds were exploding. They were like, no way,
Speaker 5: there's like Pamela was the name of the rescue cam,
Speaker 5: like across the board and uh, it's it's all like
Speaker 5: another like I sent her.
Speaker 4: This beautiful woman.
Speaker 5: She's a photographer from Russia fourth of July to fourth
Speaker 5: and she I'm always.
Speaker 4: Fascinating like these remote places that.
Speaker 5: They watch kind of went in and really like tell
Speaker 5: like it just it gave people hope. It's the craziest thing. Like,
Speaker 5: so I started talking to her and she's I know,
Speaker 5: she was like trying to ask me somebody she didn't
Speaker 5: want to ask.
Speaker 4: She just she's like, were you on a big watch?
Speaker 4: If I'm and her and she's a little.
Speaker 5: Bit of Russian accent, she's married out a kid there,
Speaker 5: it was like it was just like it was normal,
Speaker 5: like and I was like, yeah, yeah, I played Cody
Speaker 5: and she's like, oh my god. She's like, I'm from
Speaker 5: Russia and we watched the show there I go, what
Speaker 5: part of Russia? Like she gos Siberia and I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: can you describe what that means? Like what part of Siberia.
Speaker 5: She's like, imagine a movie where they've shown her depicted
Speaker 5: Siberia and multiply that by ten.
Speaker 4: In terms of remoteness.
Speaker 5: And that's where I grew up and we were obsessed
Speaker 5: and watched bay Watch like it was like our lifeline
Speaker 5: to the world. And she since kind of what like
Speaker 5: got her, gave her the idea to come here, and
Speaker 5: now she's a super I mean, I don't know, she's
Speaker 5: a very talented photographer.
Speaker 4: I having a very successful.
Speaker 5: Career, and you know, the show was able to get
Speaker 5: you know, a lot of those countries. It's eastern, your eart,
Speaker 5: it's landlocked, it's dark, and it's an hour of escapism
Speaker 5: where you can get out of your thoughts, you know,
Speaker 5: for your own reality. And that was one of the
Speaker 5: greatest things, you know, amongst others, the Big Waite.
Speaker 4: Provided that can.
Speaker 3: So you you walk onto a set where, no matter
Speaker 3: how popular you get, you're still only going to be
Speaker 3: the second David on the call sheet.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious what was it.
Speaker 3: How how much of in control was David Hasselhoff by
Speaker 3: the time you got there. I mean, was he kind
Speaker 3: of calling the shots on everything or was he more
Speaker 3: of just hands off the shows working Well, I'm not
Speaker 3: going to be involved in every every aspect of everything
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 4: No, that's put it this way.
Speaker 5: And you know I loved Yeah, we were like best
Speaker 5: friends for a long time and we would travel together.
Speaker 4: But there's always in the.
Speaker 5: Original series, there was always an A to B storyline, right,
Speaker 5: and the A storyline is more it's just more medi
Speaker 5: it's a lot more going on, and he always had
Speaker 5: a storyline. I'm like, man, she ever just but that's
Speaker 5: one of us have the A storyline for once.
Speaker 4: And he's like, you know, he didn't even reacts. He's like,
Speaker 4: but I could see as say, f no, right, no,
Speaker 4: it's my deal. So but he you know, we.
Speaker 5: Spread it out. He didn't like to be over. He
Speaker 5: didn't like other people kind of shining above him too much.
Speaker 4: But he was super cool.
Speaker 5: I mean, he was one of the like the hardest
Speaker 5: thing to do with David. He was straight face because
Speaker 5: when when he's on camera, he's dead serious.
Speaker 4: About his work and trying to do it right.
Speaker 5: And then when you're on camera and it's a single,
Speaker 5: he's doing everything in his power to mess you up.
Speaker 4: And just he's funny.
Speaker 5: It's to be and like he's singing and I'm like,
Speaker 5: come on, can you.
Speaker 4: Either do the scene or I'm gonna read with like
Speaker 4: your standard bro. Yeah, by the cool guy.
Speaker 5: Like I said, we had some really great adventures he
Speaker 5: and I went on. He took me like I didn't
Speaker 5: out the money. We went all over Australia to the outback.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Really generous and we.
Speaker 5: Have nothing like good memories with that guy, dude, except
Speaker 5: when it came time for sharing a story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Well, we couldn't be more excited about a
Speaker 2: return to the Beach for the revival of Baywatch. You'll
Speaker 2: be returning as Cody Madison now almost thirty years later.
Speaker 2: Did you ever imagine this could happen?
Speaker 4: Never? I mean I pushed for it for a long time.
Speaker 5: I would say every six months, I've written to Greg
Speaker 5: Bohen and one of the original producers, because my daughter's
Speaker 5: in the junior lifeguard program Here On to a Beach
Speaker 5: and he is one of the instructors.
Speaker 4: For that a kids.
Speaker 5: So that's the top kids that you've been in the
Speaker 5: program for a while. And you know, there's remember that
Speaker 5: period of time when everybody's be putting the shows like
Speaker 5: now two and O and yeah, there's an all of
Speaker 5: them kind of went one or two or more years,
Speaker 5: and I kept saying, why aren't we doing this, Why
Speaker 5: aren't we rebooting? And then so then we there was
Speaker 5: one period we got really close. I think it was
Speaker 5: CBS and I went with them like I was gonna
Speaker 5: be the guy, and it was Bonan and two people
Speaker 5: from CBS location scouting around Zoom or Malbo and then
Speaker 5: they were it was either gonna be Magnum p I
Speaker 5: or may Watch and Dwayne Johnson, Zach Effron, they watch
Speaker 5: movie came out and CBS was like, sorry, sorry, folks,
Speaker 5: that we're not touching that now.
Speaker 4: You know that nothing against those guys.
Speaker 5: I thought the movie was kind of funny, it just
Speaker 5: had nothing to do with Bay watching it crushed the
Speaker 5: brand for a little bit, so they had to wait.
Speaker 5: And then there's just been a giant resurgence lately at
Speaker 5: people watching it internationally.
Speaker 4: The original city, Like my buddy is over in Australia.
Speaker 5: He's like a professional lifeguard back then, and they came
Speaker 5: here and did an episode.
Speaker 4: He's like, mate, man.
Speaker 5: If you came here, my kids were obsessed with the show,
Speaker 5: you would be swarmed at this moment right now, I'm like,
Speaker 5: so there's been a resurgence, and you know, I drive
Speaker 5: by the beach, I serve, I'm in the ocean all
Speaker 5: the time, and I would definitely over the years.
Speaker 4: Have moment or where I'm stuck on some movie and
Speaker 4: it's just like, so, like, you know, because I like
Speaker 4: to work, don't You're not going to get better going
Speaker 4: to You have to go to aging class, but you're
Speaker 4: not going to get better. You have to be on
Speaker 4: a set in front of the camera in order to
Speaker 4: get better.
Speaker 5: It's like surfing, like you only get better when you're
Speaker 5: actually on the wave, like you have to be on
Speaker 5: the wave to learn.
Speaker 4: And then it's the same with acting.
Speaker 5: So I would try and unless it's like something that's
Speaker 5: just like really terrible, I'm usually like, yes, I want
Speaker 5: to do that, like make it happen because I like
Speaker 5: working on my craft and I learned.
Speaker 4: Something you do every time.
Speaker 5: I don't think there's ever an end to this game,
Speaker 5: Like you can print all the great actors basically the
Speaker 5: same thing. And I'm not saying on at that level,
Speaker 5: but I actually do feel like i'm doing them out.
Speaker 4: I'm fifty eight, and.
Speaker 5: It's actually look back at like which play. There's great writing.
Speaker 5: I did some really good work on that.
Speaker 4: And even if they watched some of the episodes that
Speaker 4: were more there's.
Speaker 5: A couple of dramatic ones when I do with Carmen
Speaker 5: or a kid when I thought I left my town
Speaker 5: early in the Keep a.
Speaker 4: Missing, it was good.
Speaker 5: But I'm just at a point in my life I
Speaker 5: don't know the last year and a half, I just
Speaker 5: feel in command and like in control of my space and.
Speaker 4: Like love the process more than ever.
Speaker 5: It's it's kind of bizarre and I feel like I
Speaker 5: can just tap into any emotion, like if they're like
Speaker 5: whatever they want, I can give them almost the thirty seconds.
Speaker 4: And whereas before I just remember it kind of being
Speaker 4: like Okay, here we go. This is gonna be daunting.
Speaker 4: Like now I'm like, let's go, like you know, because
Speaker 4: once you get to that.
Speaker 5: Place where you kind of don't care, you start really
Speaker 5: loving it. And it's not that you don't care, it's
Speaker 5: just like you you remove the pressure off yourself and realize, okay,
Speaker 5: we're not although we are saving lives in a way
Speaker 5: because it is I'll tell you this real quick because
Speaker 5: everybody you know, like they would say you know, or
Speaker 5: I would say this rather about actors in general, like
Speaker 5: or entertainment.
Speaker 4: Or movies, like in general, we're not really like we're
Speaker 4: not out there on the front lines.
Speaker 5: We're not over there serving, we're not in the hospital
Speaker 5: for emergency room saved mus hands on.
Speaker 4: But they watched back in the day.
Speaker 5: This is before internet and everything, so we would get
Speaker 5: letters from around the I probably saw it in my time,
Speaker 5: like eight letters where like Greg Boniam and say come
Speaker 5: in here. In the production office, we were down to
Speaker 5: jeff Off, Jefferson Boulevard and he's like read this.
Speaker 4: And I'd read it. I'd be almost crying.
Speaker 5: Like he's like an Italian family and their nine year
Speaker 5: old son pulled their seven year old son who had
Speaker 5: drowned or he was like face down the pool. But
Speaker 5: because he had watched Baywatch, not even an understanding anything
Speaker 5: in the leg even though it was dub but just
Speaker 5: watching like the show over and over and seeing us
Speaker 5: do CPR. He did CBAR and his younger brother and
Speaker 5: brought him back to life. And and that is no joke.
Speaker 5: You could ask anyone that story and legit. And there
Speaker 5: was like I think that probably eight my four year
Speaker 5: period where I saw I was like, wow, we kind
Speaker 5: of are Cady lives now.
Speaker 4: But it's more like.
Speaker 5: To have that kind of you know, in Life Guardian
Speaker 5: in general, I think it's an underrated thing. Just watching
Speaker 5: my daughter, like her growth in terms of like she
Speaker 5: used to be afraid of big waves and we get
Speaker 5: I love growing out when it's big and having that
Speaker 5: fear like where it's like, okay, this is like, you know,
Speaker 5: super respectful of the ocean. But I love the challenge
Speaker 5: and she wouldn't go and after like being in that
Speaker 5: program for and she's entering her six or seventh year.
Speaker 4: Now she's like, Dad, come on, let's go. There's gonna
Speaker 4: be bombs. This hell up further and get a bomb.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yes, thank you.
Speaker 5: It's just you know, it's a great healthy community life
Speaker 5: guardian general. And kids still't have options for jobs. And
Speaker 5: I see all these kids, I'm like, there's not a lot,
Speaker 5: Like they can't really labor, they're too young to working
Speaker 5: on things. So they always at the beginning of every
Speaker 5: season Juna Lifeguards, they sit all the kids down and
Speaker 5: all the parents are behind them, and they go, who
Speaker 5: here things they're going to stay in this They call
Speaker 5: it the rouge to bread wearing red meats. You're actually
Speaker 5: you pass the test and you're now and out to lifeguard.
Speaker 5: Who here thinks she'll stay in this program all the
Speaker 5: way through and try out to become a lifeguard as
Speaker 5: a job, whether it's a side job or whatever.
Speaker 4: And so I'm like with my daughter, I'm like this,
Speaker 4: this is there's only a couple of things in life.
Speaker 5: This is one you're going to do. And so last
Speaker 5: year they asked the question and I'm behind her. She
Speaker 5: her back to me. She didn't put her hand up
Speaker 5: and I was just drooling her with the energy, like
Speaker 5: and she's like.
Speaker 4: She's like put her hand. I'm like.
Speaker 5: And now she's now she's really into it. But it's
Speaker 5: it's such a it's amazing. I mean, kids can work.
Speaker 5: At age sixteen, you can work for the city as
Speaker 5: like can.
Speaker 4: That's the tests. You can make it legitimate money. And
Speaker 4: then at age eighteen you can take.
Speaker 5: The county test and make it like there's like around
Speaker 5: like eighty thousand bucks a year if you took every shift,
Speaker 5: let's say.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then an extra ten grand per language that
Speaker 4: you know gets added on. So no matter where she ows,
Speaker 4: and I think she wants to stay on the West
Speaker 4: Coast for college, like she could have a job. And
Speaker 4: it's such a great Like I watched the lifegrounds roll up,
Speaker 4: like they don't start at six am.
Speaker 5: Yeah, girl went around nine maybe taking my watch and
Speaker 5: they you know, it's like and nobody's in the water
Speaker 5: to the JG kids, so they're like okay, and they stretch,
Speaker 5: they go for a swim, they come back, the little
Speaker 5: water is still nobody's no, no, no, they.
Speaker 4: Go for a run, come back, they're eating their lunch. Okay,
Speaker 4: some people in the water and I'll sit in my chair.
Speaker 4: But like it's it's it's an amazing job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like a good giga. Over the last month,
Speaker 2: we have been introduced to the cast and it's a
Speaker 2: very good looking bunch Steven mml, Shane Mitchell, Brooks Nader,
Speaker 2: and Livy Dunn making her acting debut. Of course, you
Speaker 2: as the the first returning cast member. Is there another
Speaker 2: returning cast member you'd like to see make an appearance
Speaker 2: on the show?
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I wish, honestly all of them
Speaker 5: come back and do it to especially in more like
Speaker 5: Jeremy because I don't know if you saw what he
Speaker 5: posted to he said it great, Like I was like, wow, man,
Speaker 5: he sent such a positive message to Steven mmel, Like
Speaker 5: I don't know if Steven responded, but you know, he
Speaker 5: could have been so bitter about that, like that they
Speaker 5: didn't consider him.
Speaker 4: He's kind of the right age.
Speaker 5: He's a little bit young, but he's on a different
Speaker 5: like he's he's done so well in life and he's
Speaker 5: doing these well instre treats for men.
Speaker 4: But all you did so you did this video of someone.
Speaker 5: To Vida JPM and he's like I'm wishing you guys
Speaker 5: the best of luck at Steven congratulation, some kind of
Speaker 5: role and all the guys.
Speaker 4: I hope you really dominate and I hope to shows
Speaker 4: a huge success.
Speaker 5: And I was like, so I wrote him on that
Speaker 5: and I was like, man, you've really like you've ascended
Speaker 5: in a sense, because.
Speaker 4: That takes a lot to not be like it's like.
Speaker 5: If someone came in to play mekde be like yeah,
Speaker 5: but I was kchy, like why why can't we just
Speaker 5: like just a story? But he didn't take that at all,
Speaker 5: And I was like, that's that's a that's a beautiful
Speaker 5: human being. That's someone who's happy in their own skin
Speaker 5: and their life.
Speaker 6: And I think, you know, I mean who i'd love
Speaker 6: to see I don't know. I mean, who's still really acting?
Speaker 6: Is like Pamela, Yeah, but she doesn't like to refer
Speaker 6: to the right.
Speaker 5: Like if you've noticed the last twenty interviews, like she there,
Speaker 5: they must have had a pre interview and she says
Speaker 5: one thing, do not ask me anything about by walking.
Speaker 2: Off guaranteed right because they don't even ask because they don't.
Speaker 4: Even ask anymore. And it's so it's like why, yeah,
Speaker 4: like I'm so happy for her and a success.
Speaker 5: I just don't understand people who aren't thankful of the
Speaker 5: job the launched them, Like why would you not be
Speaker 5: just honoring, like not saying you have to run around talent,
Speaker 5: saying I was on Baylish, but like if it comes up, Yeah.
Speaker 4: That was my first job and I loved it. At
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 5: It was like I was in Canada and got kind
Speaker 5: of like picked out of the crowd because they zoomed
Speaker 5: in on me on like the jumb or tron, Like
Speaker 5: I don't understand that aspect.
Speaker 4: But again, I'm I'm happy for her success, and you know, yeah, I've.
Speaker 5: Always been very thankful to the show. And for reasons,
Speaker 5: I went and met with the writers and Matt Nix,
Speaker 5: the showrunner, after I have to offer, and it was
Speaker 5: I had a chance to actually say that, and he goes,
Speaker 5: that's one of the reasons you're sitting here right now, man, And.
Speaker 4: He also did say, he goes well, when they came
Speaker 4: up with the idea bringing a legacy character back and
Speaker 4: the guy, the character of male Orphy, you know, owns
Speaker 4: and runs the bar, but can also it's an active
Speaker 4: lifeguard and jumps in when they need him, and you know,
Speaker 4: he goes the list was one person long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they left it at that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, I got you. That's cool, that is
Speaker 4: very cool.
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about the incredible work
Speaker 2: you do with Wings of Rescue. How did you get
Speaker 2: connected with them?
Speaker 4: It was actually during the Palaces fire.
Speaker 5: I've been an ambassad of swords for best Friends in
Speaker 5: Animal Society since two thousand and we were out here
Speaker 5: and I felt like, you know, I just felt helpless.
Speaker 4: Like and I felt like the city was burning and
Speaker 4: there's nothing we could do.
Speaker 5: And they said, hey, would you come help load dogs
Speaker 5: on a plane because we have to get them out
Speaker 5: of these shelters because there's gonna be a massive incoming
Speaker 5: of displaced dogs and cats.
Speaker 4: Yes, where when? And so I went and on that
Speaker 4: first day it is the coolest thing. It was in Burbank.
Speaker 5: It was super hot, and I've been like I've had
Speaker 5: this weird connection with dogs, like.
Speaker 4: I can be on a dog's level within seconds, like
Speaker 4: I was little, and I just I love being around
Speaker 4: dogs more than the most human beings. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: you guys or like, no, it's just the way it is.
Speaker 5: Most human beings no, I believe it at that anyway.
Speaker 5: So the guy Rick Browdie or Brown, it's RWD anyway,
Speaker 5: he's the CEO of the company and he flies seventy
Speaker 5: seventy at the time, and he flies out and organizes,
Speaker 5: so the rescues drive up. You fly in and out
Speaker 5: of private airport so they can drive right up to
Speaker 5: the tarmac.
Speaker 4: Everybody carries up the dogs and the cats.
Speaker 5: You line them up because they're gonna drop them usually
Speaker 5: in three different states, all on the east coast or
Speaker 5: something northwest where there's space. And he's like, I need
Speaker 5: one volunteer to come inside the cargo plane and like
Speaker 5: stack crates because it's like three on top, three or
Speaker 5: three on the bottom, three on top, and you stack it,
Speaker 5: feel it because you don't want to leave one one
Speaker 5: dog or cat left behind? Is that? And so I
Speaker 5: just went in there. I put my head down and
Speaker 5: just worked and worked. I like by the time I
Speaker 5: knew how to set the cargoing ittting, and he was
Speaker 5: just and I can I don't know just from in
Speaker 5: life and construction certain things, I just I anticipate problems,
Speaker 5: happenings or things going like so I solve.
Speaker 4: It before it happens. And he saw this in.
Speaker 5: Like one and an hour and a half and I
Speaker 5: was like, hey man, thank you so much. Covered in sweat.
Speaker 5: I go to leave and I find out tell he
Speaker 5: tells the story too. He's like he go to the
Speaker 5: people from best friends. He's like, who was that guy?
Speaker 5: Because I've been running With's Rescue for twelve or thirteen years,
Speaker 5: I've never had a volunteer who worked so hard, like
Speaker 5: never took a break, and also had like a real affinity,
Speaker 5: like there was a real connection going on between him
Speaker 5: and the dogs.
Speaker 4: He's like talking to every.
Speaker 5: Dog he lows and they're like, you don't know what
Speaker 5: that is and he's like, no, that's the AFAMA watch.
Speaker 4: Not that that even mattered, but he was just like
Speaker 4: what damn. So I ended up loading six more planes.
Speaker 5: I brought my daughter out to help on one of them,
Speaker 5: and then a month later he called me. He's like,
Speaker 5: you know, I just did the same thing. That's how
Speaker 5: I lived, That's how it worked. And he's like, do
Speaker 5: you want to be a flight crew member for us?
Speaker 4: And I was like one thousand percent and cool.
Speaker 5: So I worked my nom flight crew leader, which is
Speaker 5: really cool. It just means I can load fast and unload,
Speaker 5: and it's.
Speaker 4: A lot of it's a lot of work. I give
Speaker 4: them a ton of credit because they don't.
Speaker 5: Even have a brick and mortar, and we're transporting large
Speaker 5: numbers of dogs and cats either out of active disaster
Speaker 5: zones or they're super at risk of.
Speaker 4: Youth and as due to overcrowding, and also wings a
Speaker 4: rescue when they go into like say, any disaster except
Speaker 4: the Vallet. They didn't have to, but they went into
Speaker 4: the disaster down Texas with a girl that unfortunate incident,
Speaker 4: and they were always flying in full.
Speaker 5: They had humanitarian aid, veterinarian aid, and then dog and
Speaker 5: food like got food for the dogs and cats. And
Speaker 5: so they're coming and fully loaded, like handing off these supplies,
Speaker 5: pulling out all these pets so they don't have to
Speaker 5: euthanize because so if you imagine La during the Palisades fire,
Speaker 5: we were already overcrowded, so they're utianizing in every shelter.
Speaker 5: Imagine adding three thousand dogs and cats are more like.
Speaker 4: So they had they were They fly NonStop and it's usually.
Speaker 5: Like thirty hours of no sleep pretty much because we
Speaker 5: love we fly at night a lot, but I love that.
Speaker 4: It's just so.
Speaker 5: You know, I fly at home, and they fly me
Speaker 5: home wherever we gonna end up commercially, and I just
Speaker 5: put on my headphones because I don't want to.
Speaker 4: Hear one human being.
Speaker 7: I just like what I witnessed, and it's it's like
Speaker 7: such a personally like satisfy, rewarding thing. I feel like
Speaker 7: I'm making a difference in the world. And there we
Speaker 7: can go firs because they do it every week. So
Speaker 7: thank you for bringing.
Speaker 4: That out with Richy.
Speaker 2: That is so cool, David. We have so enjoyed having
Speaker 2: you here. Thank you so much for such a wonderful interview.
Speaker 2: We're so excited for the revival of Baywatch and you
Speaker 2: can learn more about the great people of Wings of
Speaker 2: Rescue and donate to the cause right now wingsof Rescue
Speaker 2: dot org and we will be patiently waiting for the
Speaker 2: new Baywatch.
Speaker 4: Awesome.
Speaker 5: And also I do have to mention the Community Brigade,
Speaker 5: which is Fire Repeat.
Speaker 4: I actually am a member of.
Speaker 5: It's an organization started by this group and you know
Speaker 5: it's it's we saw we lost our home with the
Speaker 5: Wolsey fire rental law.
Speaker 4: I was here during Franklin and palisades by myself, I
Speaker 4: have my family go to a safe place.
Speaker 5: But I wasn't in the brigade at the time, and
Speaker 5: I had applied does they only had one fire academy
Speaker 5: and those guys were actively involved in a palisades to
Speaker 5: it evacuations. Anyway, I finally, God, it's long pros Scott
Speaker 5: and and it's one of the best like things outside
Speaker 5: of wings Rescue. Being able to like being of service
Speaker 5: is what I've learned, like for all for most human beings,
Speaker 5: Like I feel like it's the.
Speaker 4: Greatest thing in the world.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, you give and you don't even understand it,
Speaker 5: but there's an unconscious thing that starts happening to you
Speaker 5: where you feel so good about yourself and life when
Speaker 5: you start giving.
Speaker 4: And I like to be the guy.
Speaker 5: Who can you know, run towards things that go wrong
Speaker 5: and help and being a part of this brigade it's
Speaker 5: like ninety four strong and you know it's an ongoing.
Speaker 4: We went through this whole academy and got to graduate.
Speaker 4: So I had to get a plug in for them
Speaker 4: because it's such a cool group.
Speaker 5: It's it's unbelievable and they're super important to this community.
Speaker 4: Especially surviving any future you know, disastrous. So thank you.
Speaker 4: I hope that makes it.
Speaker 2: Yes, of course, thank you for sure. Thank you so
Speaker 2: much for being with us. It was a pleasure to
Speaker 2: talk to you here.
Speaker 4: Have a great thank you too.
Speaker 2: Wow, he's he is so athletic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little intimidating.
Speaker 3: Uh, fight a dime for every time someone said to me,
Speaker 3: come on, will Pammery as mean.
Speaker 2: I know now it's true.
Speaker 1: It's trillionaire, you know exactly?
Speaker 2: I know he really he also uh then moved on
Speaker 2: to Carmen Electra.
Speaker 1: A real charity. Welcome, we've all been there all the.
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