1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: This is Alec Baldwin, and you were listening to Here's 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: the Thing from my Heart Radio. Imagine being in the 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: middle of the ocean, in the pitch black of night, 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: with only a sliver of the moon to illuminate the 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: bobbing waves which obscure almost everything from your line of sight. 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: The boat you were on moments ago is speeding off 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: into the distance, and no one can hear your cries 8 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: for help over the whir of the engine. You now 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,879 Speaker 1: only have your wits to save you from this nightmare. 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: My guest today knows this feeling from actual experience. John 11 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: old Rich, along with his partner Anthony Sasinski, is the 12 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: owner and operator of the Anna Mary, a lobster boat 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: the trolls for its catch off the coast of Montauk 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: Long Island. Their book, Speck in the Sea, A Story 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: of Survival and Rescue, is the harrowing account of Aldridge 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: falling aboard and finding himself alone in the open ocean. 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: The Speck in the Sea, the title of the book suggests, 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: my name is Anthony Sosinski. My name is John Aldridge. 19 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Most fishermen will tell you their work is a calling, 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: that it's in their blood. Despite it being the most 21 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: dangerous profession in the US. And like many who were 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: married to the sea, Anthony and John's called to the 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: water began in childhood. So as a youth, I had 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: was born in Brooklyn and my father, when I was 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: first able to walk, would take me down to the 26 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: shoreline to the Brooklyn Navy Yard. There was a pier 27 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: there and we would fish for goals and little blackfish. 28 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: And then we moved to Long Island Town, Oakdale. And 29 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: when we moved to Oakdale, we had to learn how 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: to swim. We had no choice. We couldn't be around 31 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: the bay unless we learned how to swim. So there 32 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: was Byron Lake Park. We went to learn how to 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: swim Environln Park. It was always cold, it was spring. 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: I hated going in the water because it was so 35 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: damn cold, and my father would take us. We had 36 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: a nineteen foot like Jersey skiff and we would launch 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: it at a Great River or Hexha State Park and 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: we would fish the Great South Bay. We would go 39 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: out to Fire Island Inlet and uh we would go 40 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: far offshore with just a CB radio and a bottom 41 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: machine and he would teach me how to navigate on 42 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: how to get back to Fire Island Inlet. And this 43 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: one particular time, it was foggy and we wound up 44 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: in Tobay Beach trying to get in, and there's these 45 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: naked people that are jumping like because it was the 46 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: nude beach at that time, And I was like, Dad, 47 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: where did you get us lost to? You know, he 48 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: knew what he was doing. Yeah, I think he did. 49 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: He would think you were you were ready to learn 50 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: a lot of things that day. Yeah, So as a 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 1: kid south Shore and then when did you decide your 52 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: father obviously passes us on Like my dad, My dad 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: would be in the water, and we grew up in 54 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: a town down where people along the water. A few 55 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: people would have these bins on the side of their 56 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: house and there was an inflatable inner tube of attire, 57 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: a peach basket and some rope and beat up shitty 58 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: old sneakers tied together with the laces, and you put 59 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: the shitty sneakers on the old youth sneakers, You tie 60 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: the rope around your waist, You put the peach basket 61 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: in the inner tube and it floated out and my 62 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: father would literally go around those great zap ango right foot, 63 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: and my brothers and I would dive down the lamb 64 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: under his foot, go like this and go left foot. 65 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: And when we came home we had baskets full of chowders, 66 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: little necks, you know, you had it on the half shell, 67 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: you had him raw, or we had the ones for 68 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: the soup. And this is a big part of our lives. 69 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: We did it all. We did this by bicycle. We 70 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: would ride our bikes down to the beat down to 71 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: the school and we would walk in with waiters in 72 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: a full wet suit and we would catch a basket 73 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: of clams, put it in a bag and we'd leave 74 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: it on the bottom right by the docks and idle out, uh, 75 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: and then go back, get on the bus and go 76 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: to school. And then in the afternoon, off out of school, 77 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: we would put that bag of clams on the bar 78 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: of our bicycle and we would ride from Oakdale to 79 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: West Sable too to sell our clams. And yeah, we'd 80 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: sold them, like you know, we made a morning's pay 81 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: before school in them. I was in seventh Yeah, yeah, 82 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: well we did that too, but but so so you 83 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: were a quote unquote commercial fishermen from early on. Oh yeah, 84 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: we would go mackerel fishing in the springtime with my 85 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: dad's boat. We would use the garbage cans to fill 86 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: them up with the mackerel, and then we would sell 87 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: them on the side of Montauk Highway. My father would 88 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: leave me there with the cooler. We'd come back an 89 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: hour later and there would be nothing left, and I'd 90 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: have the money and away we'd go, right by J 91 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: and R. Tackle was commercial fishing the way you practice 92 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: it as an adult. With that a foregone conclusion. At 93 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: early I wanted to do that. Always wanted to be 94 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: a fisherman. Yeah, a Montalk. Well, my dad took me 95 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: at a young age. So then we would go on 96 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: the weekends and we were weekend warriors out east. So 97 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: on Friday night we would get in my father's Vista 98 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: Cruz station wagon just like the seventies show. We had 99 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: one of those with the backpack seat, and um the 100 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: way we would drive to Montalk from Oakdale. Now this 101 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: is for John Aldrich. John, of course is the person who, 102 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: when we tell the story eventually is the one who 103 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: went into the water in the story that is the 104 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: book is Montalk. Most people perceive, you know, when you're 105 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: out there, you eat as much fresh fish in the 106 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: summertime and beyond as you can, because you always have 107 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 1: this image of Montoka still a mecca of fish markets, 108 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: like the best fish is coming out that dock and 109 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: out of these boats. Patrick Wetzel, he's an old friend 110 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: of mine, pass an old pal of mine, and I 111 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: grew up with Pat Nassa shows a Massi pek. But 112 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: now he's got a pool company. Lets hear my pool. 113 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: His company does not Pat, but but I mean that's 114 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: an old old old friend, top shelf, childhood, top shelf. 115 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: And all these guys head out there because and then 116 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: they're from what you understand if you're not in the business, 117 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: like this is it Montoka the place to go? That's 118 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: still true? Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of the younger 119 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: guys that trying to get into the industry from back west, 120 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, end up out there still, you know, but 121 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: mostly in the charter fleet, not in the commercial fleet, 122 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: because there's no new commercial fisherman really anymore. So we 123 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: just it's not close effective. It's where is the fish 124 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: coming from. It's coming from America, yeah, all over the world, 125 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: coming from the docks, and not as much as you 126 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: would think the freshest fish you're gonna get is on 127 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: the East End, but a lot of the American fishermen 128 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: will push the way because of sustainable practices. So the 129 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: swordfish fleet left America and started fishing out a Trinidad. 130 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: So the swordfish American swordfish fleet moved and they can 131 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: get a few for a dollar a gallon in Trinidad. 132 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: So in the early nineties, myself, we would take the 133 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: boats with the mother ship down to Puerto Rico and 134 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: fish off of South America. Those fish went back to 135 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, which then went into a container and was 136 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: shipped the Faulton Fish Market, which then the same people 137 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: in Bay Shore sold their catch in New York. Today, 138 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: with sustainability, the American longliner could not make a living 139 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: with how much bait cost, how much fuel cost, how 140 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: much observer program costs, the cameras, everything that goes along 141 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: with it. They went out of business in America. They 142 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: moved their operations elsewhere and they shipped the fish back 143 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: American airline. So our local fish market is buying fish 144 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: that were caught in South America, but they might be 145 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: caught from the American fleet. What are they still getting 146 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: in montok off the coast of Long Island. Squid this 147 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: year was amazing, like the best year locally they had. 148 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: Tile fish Fleet still catches their quota. You know, each 149 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: and every species is there an abundance, but the practices 150 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: to make a living economically doesn't add up anymore for 151 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: a lot of fisheries. So I was told years ago 152 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: that through whatever influence, through whatever manipulation, the laws, the 153 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: state laws and county laws were shifted and tilted towards 154 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: favoring recreational fishermen and not commercial fishermen. They were saying 155 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: that they put a lot of restrictions on commercial fishermen, 156 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: and they wanted people in party boats, and they wanted 157 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: them to be buying beer and lunch and going out there, 158 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: and they wanted to get housing. And they thought it 159 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: was better for the economy for the recreational fishing industry 160 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: to be given the upper hand when it came to 161 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: stripe bass, for sure, and that is that still in 162 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: place for stripe baths. Basically it is that's a sport fish. 163 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: On the day that this event happens, you were out 164 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: fishing for what lobster and now so lobster and crab 165 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: now the better lobsters. You gotta dive with divers on 166 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: a shelf off the coast of the island. The pots. 167 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: Thing is, this isn't working as well anymore, is that true? No? No, 168 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: you have pots? Oh yeah, we fished eight hundred with 169 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: eight hundred pots in the water. Yeah, with fishing fifty 170 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: miles from land. Right, So there's no diving. We're fishing 171 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: on the continental shell. Right. And how deep is it there? 172 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: Three hundred and upwoods of five hundred feet and the 173 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: pots go all the way to the bottom. You put 174 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: a pot three hundred feet down and you have how 175 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: many pots? Eight hundred on a string with thirty on 176 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: a string? Right? And how many is one lobster per pot? No? 177 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: We sometimes you catch a whole bunch. How do you 178 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: do now, explain to people how a lobster but works. 179 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: You put bait in the front part of it, which 180 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: is the parlor, which is the kitchen, and so the 181 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: lobsters will walk in. They'll eat at the bait and 182 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: then say another lobster, are crable walking and it'll push 183 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: that lobster to the back in the pot. Now, when 184 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: they get to the back of the pot, they fall in, 185 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: and that's the parlor pot where they hang out, and 186 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: in that section we have escape vents that size out 187 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: the lobster. So certain size lobster could just walk in 188 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: and walk out of the trap on a regular you know, 189 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: they come in, they'll eat, they'll walk to the back 190 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: of the trap, they'd be like, oh, we don't want 191 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: to be here, and they'll walk right out the vent. 192 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: But when they legal size, they won't be able to 193 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: walk out the vent, and that's how we catch them. 194 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: Are people diving for lobster and around around the around 195 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: the shoot, you know, the jetties and stuff like that, 196 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: but recreationally not. That's the same as the surfer riding 197 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: waves is the diver or diving for lobster. It's a 198 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: recreational sport. There's no way that you're feeding New York 199 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: State or the coast with someone swimming down and picking 200 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: up There's not that many and we would be doing it. 201 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: We're fishing on a migratory animal, so our lobster is 202 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why we're that far off shores. 203 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: Like you were saying about the die off, well, the 204 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: lots of shells were getting thinner back in the late nineties, 205 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: John and I will ensure a lobster and all around 206 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: fishes Island and back then lobster and was very good 207 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: in the Long Island Sound, and then there was a 208 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: die off that we lost biomass of the lopses. So 209 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: at that point we bought a boat with a permit 210 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: to fish as far out as America has a license 211 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: under my big so we have a permit, and now 212 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: that permit allows us to fish for other things. So 213 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: we're not just fishing on lopses. We're also fishing on crab. 214 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: But back when we first started this that there was 215 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: a value that was very cheap on this particular item, 216 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: so most people weren't fishing on them because you needed 217 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: a lot of them. In New York State didn't have 218 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: processing plants to process these crabs. But today the crab 219 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: is now a valuable commodity because crab priced throughout the 220 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: war world has escalated. I'm sure that the deadliest catch 221 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: had something to do with some of that, but they 222 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: needed a substitute for other crabs. So this crab is 223 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: what we're fishing on, so we're we don't really even 224 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: target lopses anymore as much as we're targeting crabs. And lopses. 225 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: Now the boat in question, the boat on the night 226 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: of the event, was how long it is? How long? 227 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: It's a forty four ft boat. And when you're done, 228 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: so to speak, when you're gonna take whatever the catches 229 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: to market? The market is Montoka. You go somewhere else. 230 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: I always yourself. And there's a one one guy or 231 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: one family. You said was one people coming? We split 232 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: it up. We are crabs come into the city and 233 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: all ops is stay local at the fish farm. And 234 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm against right the sets where they go. What's the 235 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: longest you deploy shall we say you're deployed for how long? 236 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: Two days? That's the most. You don't go out there 237 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: for a month. No, no, no, no, not on atboat. 238 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: We try to fill it up in two days and 239 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: go home. So you're on the boat and it's the 240 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: middle of the night. Correct when it when the incident? Yes, 241 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: when in the morning? Probably described because I've been told 242 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: and then in the book I've seen. I didn't read 243 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: the book for it was a while ago. Tell me 244 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: what happens? They're where and where are you? So Anthony 245 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: and Mike were asleep, you know. We we fished eight 246 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: hours from land, so we left about eight o'clock at night, 247 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: and you know, we have to getting everything settled down. 248 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: The two of them went to sleep. I was on watch, 249 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: and you know, it was keeping an eye on the 250 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: radar and you know, making sure there's nothing around us. 251 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: Was the condition of the water. It was about four 252 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: foot see, you know, a little little choppy, not much 253 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: as we came off of a little bit of a 254 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: storm of the day before, and I was supposed to 255 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: get nice that day, so that's why we left. And 256 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: then around to thirty in the morning, I was getting 257 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: the boat ready to fish for that day with this 258 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: new refrigeration system that we have on board, and I 259 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: had to move some coolers around and get into some hatches. 260 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: And as I was doing that, two coolers were on 261 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: top of each other on top of the hatch, and 262 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: I took this like three ft long box hook and 263 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: I hooked into the cool into the coolert to move him, 264 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: which gave me another three ft towards the back of 265 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: the boat I would be And the back of our 266 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: boat doesn't have a back to it to transom. It's 267 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: just opened. The deck is open to the flat deck, 268 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: no transom straight out, straight out and that's when that's designed. 269 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: Why so the traps slide off the deck right into 270 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: the water because we put and as I was pulling 271 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: on that to handle snap, there's no has not nothing. 272 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: And I went flying out of the back of the 273 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: boat at you know, two thirty in the morning, forty 274 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: five miles from land. The boats on autopilot, dare asleep, 275 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: the noise of the boat, but you know, I can't 276 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: hear anything. And you know right then and there that 277 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: you know, no one in the world knows he's missing. 278 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: John old Ridge and Anthony Sasinski. If you enjoy conversations 279 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: about the East end of Long Island, check out my 280 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: episode with David rattray on and editor of the newspaper 281 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: The Easthampton Star, whose family has owned the paper for 282 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: three generations. I have friends and sag Harbor I don't see. 283 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: I live in m against It. You know, I don't 284 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: see him until October. And I'm willing to drive to 285 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: sag Harbor. The sag Harbor people won't drive to m aganst. 286 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: There's a whole thing. I used to come out for 287 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: the weekend and pack it all into two days, and 288 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: now I can't even conceive of doing that it seems 289 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: impossible to operate at that speed. There's a quality of 290 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: perfection that didn't exist when I was a kid, and 291 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: even a young person here, the quality of having the 292 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: perfect weekend, the perfect margarite, of the perfect lobster bake, 293 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: or something like that. So if there's a shift too, 294 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: I think there's one of tone and expectation among people. Here. 295 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: To hear more of my conversation with David Ratre, go 296 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: to Here's the Thing dot org. After the Break, John 297 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: Oldrid shares how finding the will to survive the most 298 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: challenging of circumstances is a choice. I'm Alec Baldwin and 299 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: you were listening to hear the Thing the night John 300 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: old Ridge nearly lost his life. He was heading out 301 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: on a routine lobster hall on his vessel the Anna Mary, 302 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: like countless nights before. It was, however, an unlikely equipment 303 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: failure that sent old Ridge flying through the air, off 304 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: the back end of the boat and into the ocean. 305 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: So I go into warr and I started freaking, are 306 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: you relatively fit? Yeah? And you know, as soon as 307 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: I hit the water, I realized that it's pretty warm. 308 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: I don't know why I thought that, but it was warm, 309 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: but I'm sure the adrenaline was just flying through me. 310 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: And I was in July July degree water, which you 311 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: know you wouldn't go when you pulled seventy one degrees. 312 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: And I was panicking, panicking, and I had my shots 313 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: on T shirt, a little three inch pocket knife, and 314 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: my fishing boots, and um, I was just about to drown, 315 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: you know, because I exerted so much energy freaking out 316 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: that I realized my boots was the only thing I 317 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: could grab onto to catch another breath. So I kicked 318 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: them off and grabbed them and I got another breath. 319 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: And then something in me just clicked, and I took 320 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: the boot and I emptied the water out of it 321 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: and created an air pocket with the boot, and I 322 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: did that with both boots, and I put him under 323 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: my arm. And I wasn't fighting to stay afloat. I 324 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: was like I was floating with no effort. So that 325 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: was like, gave me a second or two or two 326 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: figure out, you know how screwed I really am. You know, 327 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: the boats moving further and further away, the boat's gone 328 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: in seconds, basically because your chin is on the wa nighttime. Yeah, 329 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: it's nighttime, and then you know you're on the water 330 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: and then lit up so far, Yeah, you can only 331 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: see it, but the back deck is lit up looking 332 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: down and the big spotlight, if it was on, would 333 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: be looking forward. So he's looking at a light that's 334 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: getting dimmer and him really he's in the water. It's 335 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: one something in the morning. When do you realize John's gone? 336 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: So I am woken up by Mike, and Mike was 337 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: supposed to get woken up to go on watch. John 338 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: is supposed to wake Mike up. Okay, So Mike wakes 339 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: me up and says John's not on the boat. And 340 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: that's at six am, and that's about what time we 341 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: was supposed to start working. So I wake up to 342 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: he's not there. That's how that starts off of me. 343 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: And it's you know, you you can't believe it at first, 344 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: and you know there was no I was in the 345 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: bunk room. Next thing, he knows him up on the deck. 346 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: You don't have your shoes on because you don't take 347 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: time to put shoes on. And I go up on 348 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: deck and then I look at Mike because I have 349 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: my navigation equipment. I look and I realized, wow, I'm 350 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: sixty two miles from land. The boats on autopilot going south, 351 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: so we went by you ended up where So were 352 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 1: sixty miles from land when I woke up, and we 353 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: have well, we have no idea when John Well, the 354 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: gear was fifty two miles that we will go into. 355 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: But we are assuming at this point if John was 356 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: supposed to wake up Mike, that John would have fell 357 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: overboard some maybe twenty miles from land. Well, he could 358 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: have fell overboard right when we went to sleep, so 359 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: he should have fell overboard somewhere closer to land. So 360 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I have to turn. I turned 361 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: the boat around and I called the Coastguard and I 362 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: explained to them that he's not on board the boat 363 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: and where I am, and I begged them to send 364 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: an aircraft due south of Montalk from life. They did. 365 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: They sent every piece of equipment that the United States 366 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: is allowed to send. Did you ever have any other 367 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: interactions with the Coastguard before I have? Yeah, what was it? 368 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: What happened? Different things, anything from accidents to boat sinking. 369 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: So I've been involved in the attempt rescue of friends 370 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: that were never found. You went out to find him, Well, 371 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: I was out. I was the last person to hear 372 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: one of my friends screaming for help on the VHF 373 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: radio and U boat off a block island. The boat sank. 374 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: He was screaming his coordinates to where he was never found. No, 375 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: he didn't survive. In the morning, we gave him a 376 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: life raft. It was the mating voyage of the boat, 377 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: tricky currents out there. We think that fishing equipment gear 378 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: had got tangled in his prop early on in the day. 379 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: It was it was March third, and the water temperature 380 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: was thirty six degrees. We found the boat on the 381 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: bottom with an oil slick coming up because when they 382 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: sent the coast guard helicopter out to look for him, 383 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: it was nighttime and this massive spotlight that is as 384 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: bright as bright could be lights up the ocean, and 385 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: the helicopter was spinning around in this one spot and 386 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: we pull up and as the deck box that was 387 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: on the boat with and one of his boots was 388 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: one of the boot was floating. It was I remember 389 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: seeing a toothbrush floating and a deck brush and then 390 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: it was just debris and they so take me through. 391 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: You are found by the coast guard. How many hours 392 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 1: after you went into the water, estimate twelve to fourteen hours, 393 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: and then they take me through the stages of death. 394 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: When you're floating in the water for fourteen hours. Well, 395 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: it's you know, like, it was so overwhelming that I 396 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: had to break it down into small, little goals. I 397 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: couldn't be so overwhelmed with how crazy the situation really is. 398 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: So I would say to myself, all right, I just 399 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: gotta stay alive to daylight. I just gotta stay alive 400 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: to daylight. And once daylight came, I'm like, all right, 401 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: I made it the daylight. I just gotta stay alive 402 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: to find a buoy, because I'm thinking, how is anybody 403 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: going to survive in the middle of the ocean. You 404 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: gotta grab onto something and it would be make me 405 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: more visible, and so I would try to look for 406 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: a booty to grab onto. But in the same sense, 407 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: it's like in your head, you just you know, your 408 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: mind is trying to tell you, you you know, this is 409 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: so overwhelming, you can't do it, just give up. But 410 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: I would imagine this. I would I would imagine there's 411 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: a moment or many moments for the person in that 412 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: situation where you realize that you can either decide to 413 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: give up and say I can't can't do this. I'm 414 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: gonna decide and I had to drown. I had die. 415 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: I mean, did you sit there and say to yourself 416 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: at every time you like you have doubt, you sit 417 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: there and go, I can't believe this is how I'm 418 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: going to die? Yeah, And I said to myself, this 419 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: isn't right. Made it. I was like, there's no way 420 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: out like this, and that positive strength kept me going, 421 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,239 Speaker 1: I mean, keeping me focused on the positive and not 422 00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: the negative. You made a decision to try, Yeah, fisherman 423 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: and authors John Aldridge and Anthony Sasinski. If you're enjoying 424 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 1: this conversation, be sure to subscribe to Here's the Thing 425 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 426 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. After the break, John Aldridge shares 427 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: his experience stranded in open water watching the search party 428 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: miss him again and again. I'm Alec Baldwin and you 429 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 1: were listening to hear the Thing. Once Anthony Sasinski realized 430 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: his partner John Aldridge was missing in the open ocean, 431 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: his next move was to alert the coast Guard and 432 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: try to get word to Aldridge's family so we're on 433 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: phone service stuff far out okay, no, so we we 434 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: don't have communications with land. But my VHF radio was 435 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: able to talk to the Coastguard. So I was able 436 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: to communicate with the coast Guard. And so I didn't 437 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,239 Speaker 1: actually phone anybody's parents or anybody, because I didn't have 438 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: a means to do that. I was communicating with the 439 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: pilot of one of the aircraft, I was communicating with 440 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: the Coastguard station, and I was I had twenty plus 441 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: fishing boats that I was communicating with on a VHF radio, 442 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: trying to organize the search to look for him. So 443 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 1: my whole day, from the minute I woke up, was 444 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how John fell overboard, where he 445 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: could be, and how I can get help there as 446 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 1: fast as I could. Was really my intention. You had 447 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: some experience with this, well, I I have, but it 448 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: but not in this uh, not that close to home. 449 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: You know, like everything that I was telling the coast 450 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: Guard was an educated guess that I only had that 451 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: to me as fact. I didn't try to recreate something 452 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 1: that I didn't know was fact. So like when I 453 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: found the cooler handle that was broken, I knew that 454 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: that cooler handle was attached to that cooler there, so 455 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: I knew that I have hard evidence that prior to 456 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: leaving the dock that handle was attached to the cooler. 457 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: So as I started looking at our boat hook on 458 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: the ground that go in the water, I didn't know 459 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: about the hook. I thought he grabbed the cooler handle 460 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: and pulled on the cooler, and then he went snapped, 461 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 1: and he went overboard backwards and left the cooler behind 462 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: and the handle behind because they were moved halfway off 463 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: of that hatch cover. But there was below deck, we 464 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: have these tanks that are like massive fish tanks that 465 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: keep the product alive, and that's what he was working on. 466 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 1: So one of the tanks, the lid was open and 467 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: it was full of water. So my initial thing was 468 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: to stick my head in the tank to see if 469 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: he had drowned in there, because I mean, it's big 470 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: enough to put two thousand pounds of crabs and lobster 471 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: in it. He could easily be inside that thing dead. 472 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: So that was determined right off the bat that that 473 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: was not the case. So I plotted two hours from 474 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: where at six miles an hour seven miles an hour 475 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: a where the boat would have been from a straight 476 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: line from Montauk and it came to the forty fathom edge, 477 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: which is twot of water, and I basically started my 478 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: search there, and I told the coast Guard, I don't 479 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: believe he fell overboard closer to land. I believe that 480 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: he fell way further off shore than we initially thought. 481 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: So then at that point the coast Guard had asked me. 482 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: They said, look, civilians cannot be in a military search, 483 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: so we're going to do our military search. Would you 484 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: coordinate the civilian search? So I said, of course I would. 485 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm trying everything I possibly can. 486 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: At this point, I'm sweating at my toes and I'm 487 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: really trying to stay focused on the fact that he's 488 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: not there and how are we going to find him? 489 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: And we have I have the other fisherman who's trying 490 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: to chime in, calling the Coastguard wanting to help. I say, 491 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: everybody switched the channel one so I have a different 492 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: frequency and I can talk to them. And each person 493 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: kept giving me where they were, and I started a 494 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: grid with the boats, depending on the direction they were 495 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: coming from, where they would join our search and what 496 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: direction if I wanted them to go in the east 497 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: and west, and I made a grid with twenty fishing 498 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: boats in the area. But the problem is it's in 499 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: water that's moving, so the ocean doesn't sit still. The 500 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: ocean has got current and it's moving. So that's where 501 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: we were trying to get the coast guard to help us, 502 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: because they were putting drift buoy's in the ocean to 503 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: see what direction that drift was. But they were all 504 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: trying to focus their attention on most it to lands 505 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: because that's what they thought that he where he will 506 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: last time. When's the last time you've seen him? Eight 507 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: miles from land, so they started there, you know, when 508 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: the radiot from, and then where he is. So when 509 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: I when daylight came and I first heard the helicopter 510 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: way way off because there's no noise in the ocean. 511 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: Water doesn't make a noise unless it hits something and 512 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: there's nothing for it to hit, so it's super silent, 513 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: and I heard those helicopters way way far in the distance, 514 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 1: and then I knew he was awake. How grateful are 515 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: you that this was the person on the boat with you, 516 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: because it could have been like what Tommy Ball sack. 517 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: Who you work with around, isn't mom talk from Maryland. 518 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes we take the boat without each other. I'll take 519 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: it with a crew, or he'll take it with a crew, 520 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: and nobody knows anything. So if that happened, he was there, 521 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: of course, if there wasn't, for any of those other 522 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: people that we fished with, you know, no one's got 523 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: all back except lost. He's a good person to have. 524 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: The helicopters are coming and you you hear them. I 525 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 1: see everything after that, I see the helicopter, see him twice. 526 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: I passed them twice and didn't see him my first pass. 527 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: Back up myself and Mike. You know, I got to 528 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: remember this too. Is we're in a forty five ft 529 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: lopster boat. Okay, that's low sheer to the water. We 530 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: don't have a tower, we don't have elevation. We're at 531 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: sea level, all right. The ocean looks like a shag carpet. 532 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: And if you are even looking for a volleyball and 533 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: you know where it is, you only see it every 534 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: five or six seconds and it disappears. That's if you 535 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: know it's there. So you could easily be fifty yards 536 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: or thirty yards away from something, but you're looking in 537 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: the other direction, or you're looking at you and it's 538 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: down you don't see it. It's like a shag carpet between. 539 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: He had a blue shirt on and he's got dark hair. 540 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: You know what we had seen, me and Mike was 541 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: and it was actually it was it must have been 542 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 1: the second time we've seen him. Was the buoys that 543 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: he was had found. We saw two booties together and 544 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: we both put the binoculars on it for a while, 545 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: and then we came to the conclusion that we didn't 546 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: see anything there, and we kept going so south. Soon 547 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: after this this contact or this sense of the helicopters 548 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: in him passing you twice and see what time was that, Well, 549 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: the helicopters were all day long, gone back and forth. 550 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: And how long did you how long did you hear 551 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: helicopters before they got you? Because it must have been 552 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: torment to there. Yeah, I mean you were. I was 553 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: turning it into a positive to a negative. I was 554 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: turning it into go at least they're still looking for me. 555 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna find me. They didn't. They went he went 556 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: past me, didn't see me. All right. I could just 557 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, I'm gonna die. I can't 558 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: believe it didn't see me. But I was like, all right, 559 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: at least he's still looking for me. So I had 560 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: to be in my head and my mind and turn 561 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: every instant in instance and every action into a positive 562 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: thought because the negative was just so overwhelming and so 563 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: powerful to take you down. And I was like, I 564 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: can't even think about it. When you first started to 565 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: hear that apparatus, figuring about him eventually coming nearer you, 566 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: when missing you and when they finally got you out 567 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: of the water, how long were you in the water 568 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: listening to the sound of helicopters? How long were you were? You? 569 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: Were you expected and anxious they were gonna come and 570 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: get you? And that lasting How long before they finally 571 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: got you and pulled you out? Well, old day? So 572 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: who finds you? What's the moment of contact? So I'm on, 573 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm on a buoye. I got the two big made 574 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: your way toward a boy. I made it to another 575 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: buoye and I had these two big orange balls tied together, 576 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting in between them and a coast Guard 577 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: jet flies by relatively low in the direct you know, 578 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: in the area where I'm at and I didn't even 579 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: prop playing yet. Oh yeah, Coast called jet and he 580 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: went flying past, and I was like, wow, all right, 581 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: he must be on a pattern, so he's gonna come 582 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: back around. So I kept looking in the direction that 583 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: he flew, and sure enough, he came back and it 584 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: was closer towards me, and I thought he might have 585 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: seen me because I saw the pilot in the plane. 586 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: And then about an hour later, I hear the Coast 587 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 1: Gut helicopter come in right down on top of me, 588 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: and I'm freaking because he can't land the plane. He's 589 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: gonna summon them. So then they spun off over here, 590 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, got to dive. That's just the swim already, 591 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: and dropped the swimmer down to me and I was, 592 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, covered up in the water, holding onto my boots, 593 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: and he tapped me on the shoulder and sir, sorry 594 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: you okay. I whip around and look at him and 595 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: I said, I got two more days left in me. 596 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: Let's get the hell out of here. And he's like 597 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: blowing away that I could, you know, even make a 598 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: joke about anything. But someone told me that you were 599 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: told that if you've been in the water. Even an 600 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 1: hour longer, you might have died. Yeah, they gave him 601 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: me nineteen hours at that temperature. At that temperature was 602 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: my weight, yeah, I mean when I came out of 603 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: the water was nine degrees my core temperature. A lot 604 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 1: of shark signings off the coast of the beaches this summer. 605 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: What was the shark situation out there when you were 606 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: As soon as I hit the water, immediately got infiltrated 607 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: by birds, dive bomb and me trying to poke my 608 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: head and eyes or whatever they were doing. And then 609 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: about an hour into it, sharks showed up like Robert 610 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: Shaw and jos Yeah. Yeah, you're in the water. If 611 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: it was if it was warmer, I had my little 612 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: three inch pocket knife out ready to go. You're ready. 613 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,239 Speaker 1: I got two more days. That's a community out there 614 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: that can really come together in a way that's like 615 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: like any great community. We have an amazing town out there. Honestly, 616 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: school system prepares your child for success. Honestly, if your 617 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: child listens, it's amazing. The teachers, the jack parna there 618 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: is unreal. I feel really blessed to have found Mont 619 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: Talk and the East End is home, honest Lee, you know, 620 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: for us. The inlet is our getaway, so like we 621 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: go out the inlet, like later after we leave you, 622 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: we're gonna head out the inlet, so Mont talked to us. 623 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: Hasn't changed in some ways compared to it would be 624 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: for land people. What did you feel like when you 625 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: were Like when you when you finally found that you had, 626 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: you know, obviously participated in saving your friend's life, You're 627 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: carleague's life. The euphoria is as special as when your 628 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: child is born. Honestly, that's what it feels like. It 629 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: feels like, And it's an exhale too. It's like, well, 630 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm not sweating for my feet anymore, and he really 631 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: is okay, and this is we don't have to do 632 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: this anymore. It's like, thank you God, what whatever, however, 633 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: this has gone down. We're very fortunate you quit for 634 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: a while, correct, So I quit fishing after my friend 635 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: had died. That's when I quit fishing. Where um that 636 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: that story was saying to you about off a block island? Yeah, 637 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: And I came home that day. I got my daughter 638 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: was one year old at the time. We put my 639 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,239 Speaker 1: wife and the daughter in the car and I drove 640 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: to my grandmother's in Pennsylvania, and I had to make 641 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: a decision on what I was gonna do. And I 642 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: started to work helping Mike and I'm against it. Open 643 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: the seafood market and I'm against it. And then I 644 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: worked in the meat cut as union for eight or 645 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: nine months, and then I went back fishing again. It 646 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: was traumatic and I needed to absorb what I was 647 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: really getting myself into as a profession. And I have 648 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: a baby. You have too, two daughters. They're not thirty 649 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: five and thirty one. And I have a I have 650 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 1: four grandchildren. Both of them have two children that both 651 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: married the boat professionals nearby now Portland, Maine and in Minnesota. 652 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: My younger daughter was in Minnesota, so they but we 653 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: do our best to try to see each other. And 654 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: you know, I love them early and I'm super proud 655 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: of them. I think that they're amazing. They are amazing. 656 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: Makes you decided to go back to fishing. I couldn't 657 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: leave it. It It was in my blood, you know, it 658 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: was it was right down to Wick you said about 659 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: walking around the bay and with you, you know, I 660 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: chose fishing because I was I was like, I don't 661 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: want to work, this doesn't work. I still don't work. 662 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: You know, I I'm doing something I totally enjoy and 663 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: I am wanting to give you money to do it, 664 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 1: saying it fortunate, straight up fortunate. Are you still doing it? Yeah? 665 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: We're going tonight. Yeah, yeah, getting right on the boat. 666 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: I could be Mike. You can't be Mike. I'll be 667 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 1: the third guy. You don't need to know nothing to 668 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: be Mike. Them off you did to wake up and 669 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: go wait a second, you Jesus jacket, don't worry. Whose 670 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: idea was it to write a book? Did somebody suggest 671 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: that to you? Well? It was completely self generated. It 672 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 1: was part of the whole thing. I mean, you know, 673 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: Jason Blum picked up some movie story for it, and 674 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: then it just made sense to have a book. We 675 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: hired a ghostwriter and we worked with her for thirteen months, 676 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: back and forth and got it in our words basically 677 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: and moving forward. Thank you so much, Anthony, Thank you 678 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: so much. John. I'm glad you lived to be able 679 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: to tell me the story. Thank you, and uh I 680 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: look forward to the movie. I can it could be great. 681 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: It would be really cool. Thank you. Thanks for having us. 682 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,399 Speaker 1: My thanks to John old Ridge and Anthony Secsinski. I'll 683 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: leave you with a song written about John old Rich. 684 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: This is the Tale of Johnny Load by the Nancy 685 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: Atlas Project. I'm Alec Baldwin. Here's the thing is brought 686 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: to you by iHeart Radio. You woke up in the morning, 687 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 1: do duck and gear and get ice, but none in 688 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: the evening. He'd work sixteen. Now it is not counting 689 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: of or spent. It lies And Johnny came ready, able, 690 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: then steady, he said, Man, the first ships on me. 691 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: Go catch a few winks down in the brain. Can 692 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: I'll wake you when the feathoms run deep her About 693 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: three in the morning, alone, Johnny's holland the boat sit 694 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: on course to the head. Johnny pulled with his back 695 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 1: and the handle just snabbed. And that's where this story 696 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: be gins, he said. He old say, Johnnny Load, you 697 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: can overboard. In the night fifteen north of the canyon, 698 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 1: the moons is campau with thoys blots. Then a night 699 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: they said, hey, save Johnny Load. He's a pure mill 700 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: lost out at see and he's counting on you and 701 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: the mom Talk crew to bring him back to his antimary. 702 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 1: There is sense in a slick, and the sharks come 703 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 1: on quick, so you better play dead to survive. Lock 704 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: your eyes on the field by