1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: Here we go, the official show on the fish Stripes 2 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: podcast channel. I am Eli Sussman, the managing editor of 3 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: Fish Stripes, where we covered the Miami Marlins every single 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: day in our own way. For some reason, even in 5 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: the midst of times like this, we're near a pretty 6 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: low point. The Marlins only won one game this past week. 7 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: They got swept free straight by the Yankees this past 8 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: weekend in frustrating fashion. They are a season. We're seventeen 9 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: games below the five hundred mark. 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So that's something 29 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: that I wanted to get out of the way early on. 30 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: As we continue on with this show. At this time, 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: there's really no positive way to spend what's going on 32 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: with the Marlins at this particular moment. The trajectory that 33 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: they're on for the full season is like a sixty 34 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: eight win pace sixty eight and ninety four, which would 35 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: look awfully similar to where this team was in the 36 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: first year of this rebuild in twenty eighteen. The most 37 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: important thing that the Marlins want to do down the 38 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: stretch is reinforce the idea that they are progressing towards something, 39 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: even though this is a clear step back from what 40 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: they did in the shortened season of twenty twenty. They 41 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: want to reassure people that this is moving into the 42 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: right direction with the potential to take a very big 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: leap in twenty twenty two. Even if they feel wholeheartedly 44 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: that's legitimately the case, a lot of people will there's 45 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: some understandable reasons why it might be difficult to believe 46 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: that's what's actually going on. We've talked this whole year 47 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: about how their record isn't necessarily indicative of the talent 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: on this team, that they really are closer than it 49 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: appears just looking at the record. But the bottom line 50 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: is it's important to be competitive down the stretch one 51 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: way or the other, to win some games there. This 52 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: is not going to be an outright tank jab. Even 53 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: though they understand that the ultimate goal of winning the 54 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: championship is out of reach, there is still pressure on 55 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: this organization and on especially the key players in this organization. 56 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: If they want to continue to be key players moving forward, 57 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: it's important to perform well. They are going to be 58 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: judged by what they do these final fifty seven games 59 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: of the regular season, both by the people in charge 60 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: and of course the support of the fans, who ultimately 61 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: are the ones that you need to win them over 62 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: if you want that revenue to come in and that 63 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: revenue to be spent on the kind of players that 64 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: this front office will eventually need to acquire to get 65 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: over the hump. So this episode will focus on what 66 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: I term as give up guys, pretty self explanatory guys 67 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: that we're considering giving up on. For them picked out. 68 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: They're all position players. So pause the pod right here 69 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: about these four quote give up guys that are familiar 70 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: faces to my Marlins fans. They're all position players, They've 71 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: been on the team for a while, and I'm going 72 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: to go through whether or not it's time to give 73 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: up on them. So pause right here and see if 74 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: you could guess who those four individuals are all right 75 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: times up. They are Magneris Sierra, Jorge Altharo, Isan Diez, 76 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: and Lewis Brinson. But those are four of the more 77 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: prominent position players of this era of Marlins baseball, and 78 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: they've all been bad, particularly the last couple years. But 79 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: we're going to go through them one by one and 80 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: see where we stand on them. Because, as frustrating as 81 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: it could be, these guys are relatively young. You could say, 82 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: in the case of most of them, that they are 83 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: at that spot in the aging curve where you think 84 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: they are in their prime, are about to enter their prime. 85 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: And the Marlins do have somewhat of a troubling history 86 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: with letting go of these guys too soon. That's one 87 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,679 Speaker 1: thing that, especially at this very moment in the team's history, 88 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: when they want to be built towards something, the last 89 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: thing they want to do is let go of an affordable, controllable, 90 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: relatively young player right before that player really clicks, starting 91 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: with Sierra. So one of the keys when we go 92 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: through all these guys is, yeah, exactly what sort of 93 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: flexibility the Marlins have with Sierra? They do not have 94 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: much flexibility. He is I think he's about as young 95 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: as any of these guys. He turned twenty five in March, 96 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: but he is out of minor league options because of 97 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,559 Speaker 1: how he was handled at the start of his career. 98 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: He was out of options last year as well. He 99 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: probably just well enough last year to stick on by 100 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: at the time. But this year we've seen a lot 101 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: of Sierra. He has been on the active roster the 102 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: entire year. He's the only one of these guys who've 103 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: been on the major league active roster since they won. 104 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: In fact, it's a really short list of players who 105 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: have actually been on this Marlins roster from start to finish. 106 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, Sierra has been one of them, 107 00:05:57,680 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: and for the most part, it's been more the same 108 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: with him. What's been different is that coming out of 109 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: the gate he had a very marginal role. They did 110 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: not make any sort of concessions to force him into 111 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: the lineup until Starling Marte got hurt, and even when 112 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: he was hurt, Sierra couldn't really wrestle consistent starting playing time. 113 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: Even now, with of course Starling Marte gone, with Adam 114 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: Duval gone, with Corey Dickerson gone, with Garret Cooper injured, 115 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: Sierra is not even a true everyday starter. So the 116 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: organization has come to that realization that there is this 117 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: very limited ceiling on Sierra, and most of it comes 118 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: down to the fact that he does not hit the 119 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: ball hard. He does not make enough quality contact. His 120 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: career hard hit percentage is about half of the league average, 121 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: which makes it one of the very worst among all 122 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: position players who have actually gotten, as I said, hundreds 123 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: of played appearances to this point of his career. He 124 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: is someone at times that really electrifies on the bases, 125 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: but not really so much this year. I really have 126 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: a hard time putting my finger on any individual plays 127 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: this year where it felt like his legs really changed 128 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: the trajectory of a game. He has had a couple 129 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: of those moments in the previous years. He's just not 130 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: as aggressive on the basis as he should be for 131 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: somebody that has the type of speed, and he does 132 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: not get on base in the first place enough so 133 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: during his Marlin's career dating back to twenty eighteen, a 134 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: two eighty two on base percentage, and of course, with 135 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: the lack of impact that he makes on the bat, 136 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: his slugging percentage is even lower than that. He has 137 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: not hit a home run in his major league career. 138 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: Maybe he gets lucky at one point. There are some 139 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: moments where you know, if he pulls the ball the 140 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: right way, he is physically capable of hitting it over 141 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: the wall, goes to the right spot. It hasn't happened yet. 142 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: He's had over four hundred chances at the plate in 143 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: major league games to do it, and he has not 144 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: done it. He's out of options. He's he just has 145 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: such a limited ceiling because of what he doesn't do 146 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: with the bat in his hands. Although he makes a 147 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: lot of contact, I mean, there's only so many infield 148 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: hits that you can trust to get against major league defenses. 149 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: It just does not add up to being even a 150 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: replacement level offensive player, although he's very good defensively and 151 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: very versatile defensively. 152 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: There's a base shot into center field air cubs, a 153 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: throw from Sierra gets to the point, you gotta be 154 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 2: kidding me. Wanna throw by Sierra and wanna play on 155 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: the back end by Shanny i own. 156 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: I could see in the right situation with a certain 157 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: major league team where he has that very valuable and 158 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: important role. Some of the names I mentioned a few 159 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: moments ago that were in the Marlins outfield to start 160 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: the year, they had an older outfield and a less 161 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: athletic outfield, in particular with Corey Dickerson and with Garrett Cooper. 162 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: So when there were games early in the year where 163 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: both of them were in the starting lineup, or even 164 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: when Cooper alone was in the starting lineup, was that 165 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: obvious candidate to come in later in the game to 166 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: pinch run for him to be a defensive replacement And 167 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 1: now for the rest of that season this season, that 168 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: is not like a fit because the Marlins do not 169 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: have any old outfielders anymore. Everybody all their outfield options 170 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: right now age twenty seven or younger at a major 171 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: league level, waiting at TRIPAA. There's no old guys some 172 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: even though Sierra might be a marginal upgrade over some 173 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: of them as a runner as a defender, it's not 174 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: important enough to actually go out of your way to 175 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: get him into the game. And when he's not in 176 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: the starting lineup then and he's not going to come 177 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: in as a defensive replacement, you know that he's not 178 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: going to give you much help as a batter as well, 179 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: because he does not have that extra base threat and 180 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 1: his situational hitting is not particularly good. He doesn't make 181 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: enough of those productive outs. He does make a lot 182 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: of outs, as I said, with his OBP as low 183 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 1: as it is, and he just doesn't he hasn't really 184 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 1: fine tuned his game to his skill set to be 185 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: the best version of himself. And it's not at all 186 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: complimentary with this roster this year or even next year 187 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: if you look forward. Because all reports are mainly from 188 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: Craig Mish, of course, swings of meshes the Miami Herald 189 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: that Mish is pretty convinced that the Marlins are continuing 190 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: to pursue a young, controllable everyday sort of center fielder 191 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: from another organization, and so when that player comes over again, 192 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 1: that's not going to be a candidate for them to 193 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: have to be subbed out in the later endings for 194 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: someone like Sierra. And because they traded away Duval and 195 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: because they didn't extend Marte, there's this clear understanding from 196 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: front office, this pattern of behavior where they're concerned about 197 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: these aging outfielders. They want to go younger. And although 198 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: I disagree with those decisions that they made to get 199 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: rid of those guys, that's a choice they're going to make, 200 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: at least be consistent with the team that you're building 201 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: around them. With all that said, I don't see the 202 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: fit at all with Sierra. He is getting ample playing 203 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: time right now just by default. But fortunately we do 204 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: see that Hayesius Sanchez is progressing coming back from the 205 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: injured list after a COVID related setback. He's playing baseball activities. 206 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: My estimation is about a week and a half from now. 207 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: It should be by that second week, if not at 208 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: the very latest the third week of August, Sanchez will 209 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: be back from the injured list and playing every single 210 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: day for the Marlins in the outfield. So that's a 211 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: lot of playing time that you have reserved for somebody 212 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: that is a higher priority, that has a much higher ceiling. 213 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: And he at this moment, because he is on the 214 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: COVID related il, he is off the forty men roster. 215 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: He'll need to be put back on the forty man roster. 216 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: When that happens, Sierra is the one that I think 217 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: that's the time where you cut ties with him or 218 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: not necessarily like say goodbye to him for sure, I 219 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: think you just you need to remove him from the 220 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: forty men roster at that point where he's just taking 221 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: up space. He does not have this clear role with 222 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: the president or with the future of this organization. If 223 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: he does clear waivers, then great, then you can have 224 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: him around. I think by all indications he's been a 225 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: supportive teammate, and again there is a particular fit where 226 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: he might compliment what they have at the major leagues, 227 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: but I just don't see that right now. But if 228 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: he does happen to clear waivers and never hurts, to 229 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: have that depth at Triple A and have him still 230 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: in the organization. So as we go through these players, 231 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I would do. I'm not expecting 232 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: the Marlins themselves to do any of them, but just 233 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: making the case that once you get a high priority 234 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 1: young outfielder back from the injured list in Hayesius Sanchez, 235 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: I think that's the time where the Sierra experiment is over. 236 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of you agree with me, 237 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: but certainly let me know if you don't. Next one 238 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: on these lists of give up guys, it's Jorge Alfarro, 239 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: but in some similarities to Sierra, and that he is 240 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: out of minor league options. A very streaky player. There 241 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: have been some ugly streaks, especially this year, and where 242 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: it would make sense maybe to option him down and 243 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: have him work on some things on both sides of 244 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: the ball. And they are not able to do that 245 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: because of how quickly he made it to the major 246 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: leagues and his options are used up. If they tried 247 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: to send him down they need to, they can't do 248 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: it without him actually agreeing to do so. So. Without Faro, 249 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: there was that big talk coming into spring training about 250 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: how he understood everything that was at stake for him. 251 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: He was at the top of the list of guys 252 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: that this was a make or break year for him. 253 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, he dedicated so much of his 254 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: offseason to improving on parts of his game that were lacking. 255 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: Because he does some things very well with his raw 256 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: power and with his throwing arm, and even with his 257 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: running relative to other catchers especially, but there are other 258 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: glaring holes in his game that certainly held him back 259 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: last year and even made him a streaky player even 260 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: during his best seasons. I was not totally buying into that. 261 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 1: There's just not always a correlation between putting in the 262 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: effort and actually getting the results out of it. With him, 263 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: what you've known is that he is so extreme in 264 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: a bad way with his played approach and with his 265 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: selectivity his decisions to both when he makes those decisions 266 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: to swing, and of course the contact issues that he 267 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: has when he does actually think you know where the 268 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: ball is heading. It's such a big flaw in his 269 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: offensive game, and it has come back to bite him 270 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: the last two years. In twenty nineteen, he was buoyed 271 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: up by an amazing batting average on balls and play 272 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: because he hits the ball hard, because he does use 273 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: all fields. For a while there he was doing as 274 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: well on balls and play as just about anybody in 275 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: all of baseball. He was getting great results whenever he 276 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: put the ball in play, and that was able enough 277 00:14:55,520 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: to make him respectable offensive player in that regard. The 278 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: luck has evened. Doubt, I don't, I don't know what 279 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: to say. You know, he still does have the same 280 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: type of batted ball ability. I mean, he showed it 281 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: just a couple of days ago during this Yankees series 282 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: with that triple that he crushed into the gap in 283 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: an important spot. 284 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: This one out toward left center field, that is gonna 285 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: get down. It's off the wall. Ross will score al 286 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 2: far on his way to second, pal far on his 287 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: way to third. Well, we're looking for a big swing. 288 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna get one. The big guy leans on a 289 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: curve ball eighty miles an hour out over the plate. 290 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 2: There mine left, This one now far al ready for 291 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: He rockets it into the gap and watch him go. 292 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: So many of his play appearances, though, are unproductive because 293 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: of the strikeouts, because of getting himself into bad counts 294 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: and then hitting it on the ground. I think this 295 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: year he has one of his highest ground ball rates 296 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: of his career. Yeah, fifty five percent ground ball rate 297 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: league averages in the mid forties, way above average, and 298 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: as someone that doesn't run quite as quickly as Sierra does, 299 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: so many of those ground balls are automatic outs. You've 300 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: seen the stats by now of hows key pitchers on 301 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: the Marlins just do not perform as well when they 302 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: throw to him compared to when they throw to other 303 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: catchers that the Marlins have had this year. His game 304 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: calling is just not up to the same standard that 305 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: you want from a major leaguer. And then there's that 306 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: issue of blocking pitches and like actually receiving the ball. 307 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: So his the one positive I could say is that 308 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: his framing has been totally fine this year. There are 309 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: a couple of things you could point to, a couple 310 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: of key moments where it feels like that costs them. 311 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: On balance, he's been fine in that regard, perfectly average, 312 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: if not slightly above average and getting those borderline pitches. 313 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: But the other problem with his receiving is blocking that 314 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: he has accounted for two thirds of all the team's 315 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: wild pitch Yes, you know about the pass balls. He 316 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: leads all the majors in allowing pass balls at this 317 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: point in the season despite missing so much time with injury. 318 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: But to me, wild bitches are also a pretty significant 319 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: indicator of what that catcher is doing to make stops 320 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: at the most important moments when they're actually runners on base, 321 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: and two thirds of the team's wild pitches have been 322 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: thrown with al far behind the plate, even though he 323 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: has caught less than half of the team's innings. Brutal 324 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: when you're playing so many close games as the Marlins 325 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: have this year. Where the Marlins, as you've known this season, 326 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: they have won the best earned run averages in all baseball. 327 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: They just give up a lot of unearned runs that 328 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: Alfaro unfortunately contributes to. You have probably read, of course, 329 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: the Great Calm by Craig Mish in The Herald that 330 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: detailed a lot of the Marlins trade deadline thoughts and 331 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: plans moving into the offseason, and Mish's reporting quote, the 332 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: Marlins are ready to move on from Alfaro. That's a 333 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: pretty jar been to say that again published in late July. 334 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: We're recording this on August first, that they're still two 335 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,360 Speaker 1: months ago, and yet they are already of that mindset 336 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: executives in the Marlins front office that they'll need a 337 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: change at that position. He has said as much as well, 338 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: and additional conversations on social media. If they made that decision. 339 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: You want my take that why not just DFA him? 340 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: Right now? About one third of his salary is still 341 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: owed to him. If they get rid of him, then 342 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: they don't get that money back. But they did save 343 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: a little bit of money at the deadline with some 344 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: of the trades that they made. They entered this year 345 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: with one of the lowest payrolls in baseball. This is 346 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: not the time to really be pinching pennies anymore. This 347 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: is the time to start preparing your team to be 348 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: decent next year. And fortunately a lot of these starting 349 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: pitchers that were missing earlier earlier in the year, they 350 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: are steadily on their way back. Eliezer Hernandez back from 351 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: the IL later this month, Papula Lopez hopefully back from 352 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: the IL at the end of the month. Cody Potique 353 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: progress saying, Edward Carbrera looking great in Triple A and 354 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 1: almost ready to break through to the majors. There are 355 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: a lot of guys that they want to see pitching 356 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: the majors down the stretch. You want them pitching to 357 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: a catcher that actually will be here beyond this current season. 358 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: If they've already made that decision in their mind that 359 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: he is not the guy, and they just traded for 360 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: two catchers at the deadline, Peydon Henry who has been 361 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: assigned to Triple A, and then Alex Jackson, who at 362 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: this moment is on the major league roster. So we'll 363 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: be curious to see exactly what they do with him 364 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: on Monday. As they're currently carrying three major league catchers 365 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: on the roster at the same time in Alfaro, Jackson, 366 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: and Sandy Leone, I think it's time to cut the 367 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: cord with al Farrow. They're not going to carry these 368 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: three catchers for very much longer. And I'll remind you again, 369 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: I don't predict that this is going to happen. I 370 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: trust misses reporting on this that the Marlins have reached 371 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: this point where they just don't see al Fara putting 372 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: it together. And I'm kind of aligned by that. Despite 373 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: the tantalizing power in that athleticism that he has for 374 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: that position, this fundamental struggle with putting the bat on 375 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: the ball and knowing when to swing, it's going to 376 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: continue to hold him back from being an adequate player, 377 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: and just from a dollars and cents situation, you know, 378 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: next year he's due a rage. He's due to make 379 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: more money next year than this year by the structure 380 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: of the arbitration system, and they're not going to be 381 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: willing to pay that. I don't know what the weight is. Again. 382 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: I understand he's had some great moments with his team. 383 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: He really has. He is one of the more marketable 384 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: players on this team when things are going right. Things 385 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: have not gone right for him much of this year. 386 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: There was one small stretch shortly after he came back 387 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: from the injured list, and that's about it. So I 388 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: would turn the page on him right now, whether that 389 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: means making Alex Shackson the primary catcher or perhaps opening 390 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: up a forty man spot for Brian Navaretto. Brian Navaretto, 391 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: he got just a cup coffee in the Majors last year, 392 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: and for the most part, he's done a really solid 393 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: job in Tripaa this year. He's a little bit younger 394 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: than Alfaro, even though he was never a conventional top 395 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: prospect in the way that Alfaro was. I'd love to 396 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: see a little bit of Brian Navaretto down the stretch 397 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: and to close the book on this Alfaro era after 398 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: almost three seasons now for Isan Diez, who at this 399 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: point is hiding in playing Sight on the Marlins active roster. 400 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: He only had one at bat during that entire weekend 401 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: series against the Yankees three games, just one late appearance 402 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: for him coming off the bench with Isan. He's the 403 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: one that has had the shortest look at the major 404 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: leagues to this point in his career. You remember, of course, 405 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: that he opted out of the twenty to twenty season 406 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: early on after that COVID outbreak, he opted back in, 407 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: and then almost as soon as he got back in, 408 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: he got injured. This year, he had his most substantial 409 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: opportunity yet to stick on the roster because of the 410 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: injury to jazzism Junior early on, an injury to Miguel Rojas, 411 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: and even right now they squeezed him up while Brian 412 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: Anderson was still out, And for the moment he's still 413 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: coexisting with all those guys. But as I said, kind 414 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: of hiding and playing Sight first career at the major 415 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: league level. A slash line of one to seventy three, 416 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: two seventy one, two seventy eight. I did not look 417 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: at it up prior to this show, but I think 418 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: that must be the lowest batting average in baseball out 419 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: of any guy with a minimum of like three hundred 420 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: at bats during that span. It's hard to imagine anybody 421 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: getting fewer hits in that many opportunities. If you dig 422 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: into the stack cast data, there's a little bit of 423 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: bad luck. Just from watching the games, you know, there 424 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: have been some extra base hits of his potential extra 425 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: base hits that were robbed by great defense unfortunately. I 426 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: mean that one moment we all remember him from homering 427 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: against de Gram no doubt home run at City Field. 428 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: Many of his other home runs have been wallscrapers, and 429 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: some of those bad lucks have come on wallscrapers as well. 430 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: It was the hope was that he had some plus 431 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: power in him where it wouldn't really matter so much 432 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: about the dimensions of the ballpark, that he was able 433 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: to generate enough bat speed to overcome that. That has 434 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: not been the case. Has not been the case. He 435 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: does hit the ball hard, and we've actually seen that, 436 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: especially since this All Star break, which is when he 437 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: got called back up most recently, that when he does 438 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: get the ball, the bat on the ball lately, he 439 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: is hitting it hard more consistently than he has at 440 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: any other point in his brief major league career. My 441 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: concern with him is that the margin for him to 442 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: struggle at the plate is so small because of how 443 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: little he offers and other fastest of the game. You know, 444 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: he was raised for most of his minor league career 445 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: as a second baseman, and it just has not translated 446 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: as well in the majors as we thought it did 447 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: with His arm strength is nothing special, his hands are 448 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: not particularly good. His awareness as a defender is kind 449 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: of disappointing as well. The Marlins had him play quite 450 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: a bit of third base this year in the absences 451 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: of Bryan Anderson and John Birdie, and I would say 452 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: he's been a better defensive third baseman than a second baseman, 453 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,360 Speaker 1: but that's not really saying much. There's still some limitations 454 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: there in terms of what he offers at that position. 455 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: This is kind of similar to the Sierra note, where 456 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: I just don't see exactly where he fits in the 457 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: near term future, even if you think that he hasn't 458 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: had quite as long a look as Alfarrow or Lewis Brinson, 459 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: that the way this organization is built, there's not really 460 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:36,360 Speaker 1: that complimentary role for him to play. Based on how 461 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,719 Speaker 1: the Marlins handled Miguel Rojas at the trade deadline, according 462 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: to Mish. According to Peter Gammons, they really declined to 463 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: engage in any sort of real trade talks about him, 464 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: even though there were inquiries about him. You know, multiple 465 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: teams did reach out, did try to make specific offers, 466 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: and that those didn't really go anywhere with Rojas. He 467 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: has that option in his contract for next year. That's 468 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: either a club option or a vesting option, and it's 469 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: a good value because of how solid all round player 470 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: Miguel Rojas is. He's still a great hitter, especially against 471 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: left handed pitching, and he is an awesome defensive player. 472 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: He's playing as well defensively as he ever has, like 473 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: enough so that you could see him still being an 474 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: everyday player in twenty twenty two with Jazz. I don't 475 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: think it even needs to be said, although recording this 476 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: coming off a really rough defensive moment for him in 477 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 1: Sunday's game against the Yankees. He is very error prone. 478 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: Some of the decisions he makes in the field are 479 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: really head scratching where he's just trying to do a 480 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: little bit too much. But his skill level in the 481 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: middle endfield is higher. Like you do see the makings 482 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: of an above average middle endfielder for him, even if 483 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: it is eventually just second base. I saw some comments 484 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: on Twitter during this game, people saying, Hey, the Marvels 485 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: have a big void in center field, and we know 486 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: Jazz that at the very least he's going to be 487 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: a big leaguer for a long time, and why not 488 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 1: start with that transition. Why not experiments and see if 489 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: Jazz can stick in center field or his speed will 490 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: play and all that. But they should not be entertaining 491 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: that as an option. If you just watch the entirety 492 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: of Jazz' season, the skill level that he has making 493 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: a variety of plays in the field shows that he 494 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: is going to be fine I believe as a middle 495 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: and fielder moving forward. Then you have Brian Anderson, who 496 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: has reached base in every single game since coming back 497 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 1: from the IL. You look up now and his stats 498 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: are relatively close in line to where they had been 499 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: in his previous seasons when we thought he was one 500 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: of the more underrated players in baseball. There have been 501 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: suspicions that, yeah, maybe they want to go a different 502 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: direction than him at third base. I don't know why, 503 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: because there's no obvious fill in within the organization or 504 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: anybody that could really think of off the top of 505 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: my head that they would acquire via trade or free 506 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: agency at that position. I think he's going to be 507 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: their opening day third basement in twenty twenty two, and 508 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: exactly how that goes from there, I don't know. Maybe 509 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: that season in twenty twenty two is another disappointment, and 510 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: they do sell off guys like Rojas and Anderson as 511 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: that season goes on, But for the next, you know, 512 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: nine ten months, there's no sort of fit for Eon. 513 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: Those three guys right there, McGee, Rowe and Jazz and 514 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: Ba they are more or less every single day players 515 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: at those positions. So I just don't see where Eeson 516 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: fits in. The bat has not shown enough to make 517 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: him like a valuable pinch hitter, and it's I think 518 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: it's just not a very complimentary, complimentary skill set with 519 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: him as a seldom used sort of bench player when 520 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 1: you have John Burdy hopefully coming back from the injured 521 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: list relatively soon and he has just as much team 522 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: control as Eson does. Also, I'd love to see Bryce 523 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: and Brigman at some point. I mean, he continues to 524 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: do everything possible to stand out at try he is 525 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 1: I think, anyway you look at it, a superior defensive player, 526 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: superior base runner than Ean, and probably a superior contact 527 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: skills as well. Exactly whether his power will play in 528 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: the majors, I don't know. As I said with Ison, 529 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: his hasn't you know. That's the one tool that I 530 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: think if there's a scenario where Ean does put together 531 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: a really substantial career as an everyday player, he's going 532 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: to be carried by his power. And to this point, 533 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: it's a long way between the reality and what he's 534 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: shown so far and what you're projecting him to do 535 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: for someone that is still relatively young at twenty five 536 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: years old, I just don't know how much how much 537 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: more patient the Marlins can be with that. Given his 538 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: prospect pedigree, I think Eyson really does still have some 539 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: trade value, a little semblance of it, where the Marlins 540 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: could flip him to another organization where he fits better, 541 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: where there's a more pressing need at those infield spots, 542 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: and that Marlin La Marlins could get something in return 543 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: that they find sort of useful in the minor leagues. 544 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: So what I would do with Eson is for this moment, 545 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: he's not being used at the major league level, and 546 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: I don't see that happening the rest of this year. 547 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: I would simply just send him down to Triple A. 548 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: You never know what will happen with these injuries. For 549 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: the moment, with all those guys healthy, I don't see 550 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: the usefulness on the roster. I would send him down, 551 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: and I think it's Bryson Brigman time to call him up. 552 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: Where Brigman does not have the same hype that Eson 553 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: did as a prospect coming up. Brigman, you wouldn't necessarily 554 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: force him into an everyday role, but he offers more 555 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: as that complimentary piece, as the guy that could help 556 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: you in late game situations and base running situations, and 557 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: someone that has shown some very fascinating adjustments this year. 558 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: You could listen to our conversation with Bryson Brigman on 559 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: the podcast from about a month and a half ago 560 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: about what he's doing differently and what he's doing better 561 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: this year year than ever before. I think it's time 562 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: to give him a shot, and, barring any injuries to 563 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: these main infielders down the stretch, if Esan doesn't get 564 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: another opportunity the rest of this year, then you trade 565 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: him in the offseason. It's selling low on him but 566 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: not waiting until he hits rock bottom. It's at a 567 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: time where I think he still gets something in return 568 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: and you just move on. You know. It's frustrating because 569 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: of what he did during that twenty nineteen Minor League season, 570 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: winning Minor League Player of the Year, and yeah, a 571 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: lot of the hype for him, and of course dating 572 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: back to the reality that he was part of that 573 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: Christian Yellis trade. But I think it doesn't make sense. 574 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense at this point. The decisions 575 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: they should be making down the stretch should be productive. 576 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: Give Brigman a shot, just to see exactly if there's 577 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: anything interesting there. Maybe there isn't. I'm not going to 578 00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: oversell him, but with Esan, the fit just is not 579 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: logical for the Marlins and they shouldn't be trying to 580 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: force it anymore. The final guy of these potential give 581 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: up players is the one that has been on top 582 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: of our minds four years now, the former top prospect 583 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 1: in the Marlins organization, Lewis Brinson. Brinson, of all these guys, 584 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: is having the best season in twenty twenty one. I'll 585 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 1: give him credit where credit is due that he is 586 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: playing as well as he ever has here at age 587 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: twenty seven. For Marlins career overall, god we've seen eight 588 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty four played appearances of him, which is 589 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: fourthmost in the organization during that entire span dating back 590 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: to when they acquired him, Hitting right around two hundred 591 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: with a two forty five obpa, three sixteen slugging percentage, 592 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: striking out at almost a thirty percent rate. His strikeout 593 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: percentage this year is about as high as it's ever been. 594 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: That being said, there's a little bit of a trade 595 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: off and that he is slugging better than he ever has. 596 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: For a moment, his slugging percentage ticked above four hundred. 597 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: Even now, he is slugging for this season higher than 598 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: the Marlins as a team are slugging in the high 599 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: three hundreds. He is better than the average Marlins hitter 600 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: at getting extra bases, which I think says a lot 601 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: more about the Marlins offense than does positive for Brinson. 602 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: But there's been that, and I think he has just 603 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: steadily gotten even better as a defensive player, where he 604 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: is a clear plus defender in a way that Isan 605 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: certainly isn't that Alfaro certainly isn't and pretty much on 606 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: par with Mgnerisierra in that regard that he has that 607 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: ability to fit in at any of the three outfield spots. 608 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: His throwing arm has improved as Marlin's career has gone on, 609 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: he helps in that regard. Even the unfortunate side with 610 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: him is that the base running has never translated the 611 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: way that we thought it would. He just does not 612 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: make aggressive decisions on the bases. He doesn't even try 613 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: to see if he can put pressure on the defense 614 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: and make something happen out there. In most cases that 615 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: you're really relying on the defense and relying on the 616 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: bat against left handed pitching. The Marlins at this point 617 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: it's sort of similar to Sierra, where I give them 618 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: some credit that they're not trying to pretend that he's 619 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: an everyday player anymore. They're just not trying to sell 620 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 1: that anymore. And there's nobody within the organization that's delusional 621 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: enough to believe that he has that ceiling anymore. You know, 622 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: he's had all these reps and there are enough fundamental 623 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: issues with his offensive approach that he's just not going 624 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: to be an everyday player. He continues to struggle to 625 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: identify pitches out of the hand, off speed pitches and 626 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: take bad swings out of them, and he has this 627 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: unwillingness to use the opposite fields. He goes to the 628 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: opposite field like less than twenty percent of the time 629 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: on his balls and play where, which drives down his 630 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: batting average and makes it easier for defenses to shift 631 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: against him. It's even down a little bit recently, but 632 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: for his career since coming up into the league that 633 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: Brinson has one of the bigger disparities between his weighted 634 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: on bass average and his expected weighted on bass average. 635 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: This is according to Stackass where based on where he 636 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,879 Speaker 1: hits the balls and how hard he hits him they 637 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: feel he's been pretty unlucky throughout most of his career, 638 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: and to me, there's not a whole lot of luck 639 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: involved with that. That has more to do with his 640 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: batted ball profile. That he is just way too predictable 641 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: and there hasn't been much adjustment in that regard. Even 642 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: as he said, better results these past couple of years 643 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: than in his previous years. So he's reached a point 644 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: where I think he's pretty comfortably a replacement level player, 645 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: if not slightly better than that. I went fairly into detail. 646 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: I remember at the start of this year, you know, 647 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: before the season, about how I was disappoint that they 648 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: kept him over someone like Harold Ramirez. Like I thought, 649 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: we reached a point with Princeton where I was ready 650 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: to you know, cut ties with him for this twenty 651 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: twenty one season, and we're at a point where, yeah, 652 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: don't get it twisted, Like my expectations for him have 653 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: not changed much whatsoever. But the little bit of progress 654 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: that he has made, and you know, the particular skill 655 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: set that he has honed, it makes them more complimentary 656 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 1: to this team than the guys that I've mentioned, Isan 657 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 1: Rofaro or even Sierra, where just like Sierra, as an 658 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: overall value player, he might not even be better than Sierra, 659 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: but I do feel he's more complimentary with his ability 660 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: to hit left handed pitching, and yeah, just the fact 661 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,439 Speaker 1: that he makes quality contact every now and then, which 662 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: you don't get from Sierra. Marlins made this decision to 663 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 1: you know, clean out all those veteran outfielders, and one 664 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: key here is exactly what they do with Garrett Cooper. 665 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 1: Cooper was playing a ton of right field this year 666 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: as you know, when he was healthy, and that, although 667 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: that did not contribute to his season ending injury, that 668 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: the organization has expressed concerns about having him play the 669 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: outfield on a regular basis. And I think a lot 670 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: of people can understand why that. Somebody at his size. 671 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: Historically those guys do not hold up well durability in 672 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: the outfield that it is, it's very tough on players 673 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: of that size. So we'll see exactly how they handle Cooper, 674 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,879 Speaker 1: and I think until they make that decision of how 675 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: it recovers from his season ending elbow surgery and how 676 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: he fits with the team next year, you know, assuming 677 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: there's a DH, but also have to wait to see 678 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: exactly how they pursue other outfielders to kind of fill 679 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: in these holes. We're at a point where, to me, yeah, 680 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: there's really no locks whatsoever in this entire outfield. It's 681 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: amazing that we've gotten to this point where I'm optimistic 682 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: that Hayesu Sanchez will fill one of those spots ideally 683 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: right field once he does. Exactly what sort of ripple 684 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: effect that has with Cooper, I don't know, wait to see. 685 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: And that's where I am with Brinson, you know, it's 686 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: kind of a cop out answer. I gave you more 687 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: specific ones with these other guys. With Sierra, as I said, 688 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: I'd have him designate for a Simon as soon as 689 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: he Shu Sanchez gets back without Farrow, I would have 690 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: him cut right now that it's time to just rip 691 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: off the band aid and turn the page on a 692 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: guy that internally you already feel is not part of 693 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: your future at all. With Isan, I would send him 694 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: back down to Triple A, hold on to him as 695 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: an emergency just in case, but no longer make him 696 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: any sort of priority for this team down the stretch, 697 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: and then pursue a trade for him this coming off season. 698 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,640 Speaker 1: And with Brinson, his situation is a little bit more murky. 699 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: I really do feel that it might be best for 700 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 1: everybody involved if he does go to another organization, turns 701 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: over a new leaf. What have you just get a 702 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: fresh star from that, because the fact that he was, 703 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,959 Speaker 1: through no fault of his own, you know, just through 704 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 1: the eyes of evaluators, he was a consensus best prospect 705 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: in the Marlins organization when they acquired him. That in fact, 706 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: the reality that he's not going to come close to 707 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,359 Speaker 1: being the player he was projected to be. It might 708 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: be tough for him mentally and not in his very 709 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: best interest to stick rounds and it's not going to 710 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: be comfortable for the fans that I don't think the 711 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,879 Speaker 1: fans are ever going to get fully behind him, even 712 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: if he does prove to be this really adequate fourth 713 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: outfielder type who compliments the rest of this roster. So 714 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 1: if the fans are going to be frustrated by him 715 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: and kind of amplify every mistake that he makes, I could. 716 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't be opposed whatsoever of them just 717 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: saying goodbye to him. But what I do feel is that, 718 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: just given how this outfield shakes out right now, there's 719 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 1: no rush for him. I think he should stick on 720 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: this roster the rest of the season, play a lot 721 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: against left handed pitching. They're not going to force him 722 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: in there as an everyday player. I like what I've 723 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: seen from the new guy, Brian de la Cruz during 724 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: his first series with the Marlins. We do anticipate that 725 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: Hey Susanchez is going to be back very shortly. There's 726 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,760 Speaker 1: still enough time in the minor league season with either 727 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: Peyden Verdict or jj bldet to really catch fire in 728 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: the minors and maybe they get a cup of coffee 729 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: at the end of the year and would obviously get 730 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: priority over Brinson as well. In the meantime, I don't 731 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: think it hurts to have him hang around the team 732 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: for the rest of this year and try to use 733 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: him in a particular role that benefits everybody involved. So 734 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm curious about what do you guys think. I mean, 735 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: these are players that are very familiar to all of us, 736 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,439 Speaker 1: but I wanted to have this kind of conversation about 737 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: what it is about them that is going wrong and 738 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: how they fit with this organization moving forward, and you know, 739 00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: the specific decisions that the team should make on all 740 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: the factors that we have in mind. Let me know 741 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: what you think. Hopefully the next pod coming up is 742 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: a little bit more positive. I think we'll be focusing 743 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: on some prospects and draft coverage there. Coming off the 744 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: news of the Marlins draft class is all official. That 745 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: was maybe the biggest development, not a surprise based on 746 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: where things were headed, but that confirmation that number one 747 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: pick Khalil Watson has signed his deal and been introduced. 748 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: It's a huge boon to this Marlins organization that they 749 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: hold in the drift class that it did. I'm sure 750 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,720 Speaker 1: we'll be talking about it later this week on the pod. 751 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: I've been eli Susman here with Fish Drives. We'll have 752 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: our live streams coming up for the upcoming series. There's 753 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: still lots to cover about this team down the stretch 754 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,320 Speaker 1: as they set up top. Still a lot of pressure 755 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: on them to perform down the stretch the way that 756 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 1: they're heading right now. If they finished last place in 757 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: the division the same way they did in twenty eighteen 758 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen on the surface, that's going to drive a 759 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: lot of people crazy. That's going to make a lot 760 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: of people discouraged heading into twenty twenty two. There should 761 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: be some urgency to play well and to have the 762 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: ripe personnel on the roster down the stretch. I'll be 763 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: watching closely for sure, and I hope you guys will 764 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: continue to be listening to us on the Fish Stripes podcast. 765 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: Thank you as always for your support and your time. 766 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: Go Fish