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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, It's Friday, and the Dallas Cowboys have
Speaker 1: made their selection. They have a new member on defense.
Speaker 1: Barry Church and I have been preaching defense, defense, defense,
Speaker 1: and they went that way. We did not get the
Speaker 1: player that we thought the Cowboys would get, So welcome in.
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Speaker 1: joined by former Cowboys safety Barry Church. Our guy Danny
Speaker 1: McCray is still out on assignment. So Michael Parsons is
Speaker 1: the pick. The Cowboys had the tenth pick in the draft.
Speaker 1: We watched, I should say I watched in horror. Berry A,
Speaker 1: Carolina went J C. Hornet eight and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is good. Okay, this is good because I'm like Denver.
Speaker 1: Denver at nine will trade the pick somebody's gonna want
Speaker 1: the quarterback right justin field is available, they Chicago can
Speaker 1: come up here, so there'll be a quarterback at nine.
Speaker 1: At Certan is at ten. And my my dream went
Speaker 1: downhill in flames when I saw Rocles take Patrick Certan
Speaker 1: the Cowboys at ten, then trade down to twelve the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia they pick up a third. They take Michael Parsons,
Speaker 1: outstanding linebacker from Penn State. So what was your feeling
Speaker 1: watching all this? I was similar to Younuis, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I mean, I was feeling great. You know.
Speaker 1: After I saw the Kyle Pitts go to number four
Speaker 1: to Atlanta, I'm like, all right, well that that's that's
Speaker 1: out the way. I mean, I'm like, that's out the way.
Speaker 1: We ain't got to worry about no seculations and weird business.
Speaker 1: We good, were straight, you know, then we got you know,
Speaker 1: then Jamar Chase went off the board. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: we're still good. And then like you said, Carolina rolled
Speaker 1: around and they picked JC Horn. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: you know, that was a solid pick. So that that
Speaker 1: just leaves us, you know, being being in the business
Speaker 1: for certain because I did not see Denver going after
Speaker 1: a corner, going after certain anything like that. I didn't
Speaker 1: see that coming. And boom, just like you said, it
Speaker 1: was just like I was out to dinner, matter of fact,
Speaker 1: and I'm just watching it on my phone and I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, well we'll pick sur Tan. We got him
Speaker 1: on lock now, I mean, it's a rat. And then boom,
Speaker 1: I saw that pick go by. I'm like, oh no, oh, no,
Speaker 1: babies say it ain't. So they took him. They took
Speaker 1: both of what I thought were our top two defensive
Speaker 1: blue chip prospects right under our feet. Carolina got one,
Speaker 1: Denver got the other. And you know, I was in shocked.
Speaker 1: I was in shocked for a hot second, and I
Speaker 1: started racking my brain thinking, all right, what type of
Speaker 1: what type of US scenarios can we do here? Can
Speaker 1: we trade back? Or do we do we stay at
Speaker 1: ten and just pick our trade down trade? And then
Speaker 1: I saw I saw the trade back, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, they traded back, all right, so who are
Speaker 1: they gonna grab? Who are they gonna grab with this pick?
Speaker 1: And when it came across that it was Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, immedia, like all right, well, at least,
Speaker 1: at the very least, they addressed the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. Like they didn't trade back and grab the
Speaker 1: offensive lineman or anything like that. They addressed the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball. It's not the level that I wanted.
Speaker 1: You know, I wanted helping the secondary because I didn't
Speaker 1: see any blue chip defensive line prospects, so I wanted
Speaker 1: helping the secondary above all. But when they took both
Speaker 1: of those prospects, and we talked about this on the
Speaker 1: players lounge a couple of weeks ago, you know, what
Speaker 1: would happen if they took the if both of our
Speaker 1: prospects were gone, and we both decided, hey, let's trade
Speaker 1: back and see what we can do for their add
Speaker 1: some depth. But when they got Michael Parsons, you know,
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, they addressed the defense. And here's a
Speaker 1: guy who's explosive. I'm talking about explosive. We saw the
Speaker 1: forty times four to three nine at at two forty five.
Speaker 1: This is an explosive linebacker, sideline to sideline. Last time
Speaker 1: we saw him on the field, I think it was
Speaker 1: in a Capital One Bowl. He had like seventeen tackles.
Speaker 1: He was all over the field. He's a Buckets Award winner,
Speaker 1: and so I'm thinking, all right, this guy can be
Speaker 1: a plugin play not sure where it because if personally
Speaker 1: I would play him at the will linebacker, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: put him in the middle. There's a lot of banging
Speaker 1: in there. I want to see his speed on the outside,
Speaker 1: maybe rushing a little big, you know, covering some running
Speaker 1: backs here and there. So I thought to myself, all right,
Speaker 1: this is a sideline and sideline guy. He can help
Speaker 1: our defense, but what does that mean for the rest
Speaker 1: of the lineback and crew. And I was and I'm
Speaker 1: racking my brain, like, you know, where do we put
Speaker 1: these guys? Because we had Keyan, We got Keyan O'Neil
Speaker 1: in that hybrid linebacker type role, and I think, and
Speaker 1: that's exactly what Michael Parsons is gonna be. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's the same type of build, even faster than the
Speaker 1: Keyan O'Neil who's coming off an Achilles. So you know,
Speaker 1: what do we do with Neil in this situation? What
Speaker 1: do we do with the Jaylen Smith? What do we
Speaker 1: do with lv? So all this was racking through my brain,
Speaker 1: but overall, I think it was a solid pick. Um,
Speaker 1: and it gave us an opportunity to add another pick
Speaker 1: in the third round when we traded back, so we
Speaker 1: can get more depth pieces for this defense. So overall,
Speaker 1: it wasn't who I wanted to wanted it to be.
Speaker 1: I wanted it to be certain or Horn at that
Speaker 1: cornerback position. But I think it's a solid pick and
Speaker 1: this guy can help our defense this year. It's interesting
Speaker 1: how this thing works out because over at the TV station,
Speaker 1: I'm where I work at it. Anybe she five here
Speaker 1: doubts for worth thing? It's about me. Hey, can you
Speaker 1: send this a quick write up on what you think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys can do? And I said sure, So I
Speaker 1: do this ride up talking about Patrick's r Tan and
Speaker 1: how I liked him. Then I said, you know, jac
Speaker 1: Horne could be there as well, and that I was
Speaker 1: told by someone on the inside, and hey, look um,
Speaker 1: they'd be happy with either guys guys to be there.
Speaker 1: And then for just some strange reason, I said, let
Speaker 1: me add a third person and I put Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: down there. No, here's another guy to look for. So, um,
Speaker 1: when I think about it, and you try to sit
Speaker 1: up here for Cowboy fans who had their hard set
Speaker 1: on a corner like Barry, and I miss that next
Speaker 1: best defensive player there. A couple things surprised me, Barry,
Speaker 1: because I went out to the press conference earlier in
Speaker 1: the week where Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, and Mike McCartney
Speaker 1: met the media and they spoke about and I asked
Speaker 1: the question if guys didn't play, if they set out
Speaker 1: because of COVID nineteen, do you have an issue with that?
Speaker 1: And Jerry said, quote, I think they're compromised. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they're compromised. And then he said, yeah, you missed
Speaker 1: out on a whole year football. Then he asked, coach
Speaker 1: McCarthy's all right, so you know how many plays are
Speaker 1: they missing? Me? He said they're missing about seven under plays.
Speaker 1: So I thought immediately, hey, man, look guys like Piney Soul,
Speaker 1: Rashawn Slater, Caleb Farley, Micah, these guys are probably not
Speaker 1: going to make it to the Cowboys because Jerry is
Speaker 1: going to be like no. So the next day, I,
Speaker 1: you know, tried to be smart, made a phone call
Speaker 1: to a contact and said, hey, um, are you guys
Speaker 1: going to penalyize people if they are not playing? He said, no,
Speaker 1: contact if no no, not at all. And I asked,
Speaker 1: do you hate Michael Parton? I that okay, you were
Speaker 1: out there and asked it up? I did, I asked,
Speaker 1: I asked my contact. I said, d hate him? He
Speaker 1: said no. I said, okay, okay, so Jerry so so
Speaker 1: they make the trade and I and this is my opinion. Okay, folks,
Speaker 1: all right, Dallas, goot boy name, this is my opinion. UM,
Speaker 1: the two fits I thought at ten it would be
Speaker 1: best would be Patrick Sutan jac Horn. They make that
Speaker 1: trade down, they picked up the three from Philadelphia. You
Speaker 1: go get Michael Parsons. You know, he didn't play last year,
Speaker 1: but when he did play, guy was pretty damn good. Okay,
Speaker 1: I think I got to give him that UM defensive
Speaker 1: MVP at at the Cotton Bowl against UM Memphis. Dame
Speaker 1: Brugler I respect us analysis. Dane Brugler is also part
Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys podcast netwhere Dagan writes the Penn
Speaker 1: State linebacker found two seasons in college and led the
Speaker 1: team and tackles both ears. What does this mean for
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith and Layton Vanderesh and Dallas. UM, here's what
Speaker 1: right now? You good football players? As your kame So
Speaker 1: if your linebacker room is Jalen Smith, Layton Banderesh, Micah Parsons,
Speaker 1: and Keyan O'Neill, Okay, I'm good with that. I'm good.
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but I'm good with that.
Speaker 1: That is an upgrade. And what have we talked about
Speaker 1: before here on this show, Barry, Hey, who's gonna cover
Speaker 1: some of these tight ends and linebackers and just looking
Speaker 1: the way the league goes. I ain't gonna call him
Speaker 1: Devin White. Okay, I'm not gonna call buccaneers. I'm not.
Speaker 1: But when you think about what Devin White did in
Speaker 1: your hope of hopes, if you're going on to the hey,
Speaker 1: let's look at the positives. What Michael Parsons could be
Speaker 1: your Devin wife. Wouldn't you sign up for that? I would?
Speaker 1: I mean, look what Luquid Lavante David did in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl against Kelsey. I mean, this is another covered
Speaker 1: cover style linebacker that they had. And I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say he shut out Kelsey, but he definitely limited Kelsey's
Speaker 1: role in that Super Bowl and that and I think
Speaker 1: that that paid huge dividends for that defense overall. So
Speaker 1: for me, I'm thinking, I'm thinking look, man, look, I
Speaker 1: love I love with the pick with the Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: pick because I think he can be that cover linebacker.
Speaker 1: And what also I loved about that pick is this
Speaker 1: isn't not to my knowledge, but this is a guy
Speaker 1: that hasn't been injury prone. I mean, we look at
Speaker 1: look at our defense. What we have on our roster
Speaker 1: right now. Half of our starters on defense have been
Speaker 1: through some type of injuries, have had multiple surgeries, have
Speaker 1: missed multiple games. So this is a guy coming in fresh,
Speaker 1: no surgeries, no injuries that I know of, and look,
Speaker 1: it has to be a positive for this defense. And
Speaker 1: like you mentioned with that that White situation, our linebackers
Speaker 1: in the past have been liabilities and average. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've seen what j. D. McKissick was able to do
Speaker 1: in Washington. We've seen some of these tight ends be
Speaker 1: able to rote up our guys and running backs wrote
Speaker 1: up our guys on third and medium. To have a
Speaker 1: guy with an explosivenificant explosiveness and the coverage ability of
Speaker 1: a Parsons added to this linebacker crew can only be
Speaker 1: a positive for this team. And like I said, he's
Speaker 1: not an injury prone so we don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about him missing massive amount of time, and I just
Speaker 1: think it's a positive overall. He didn't get that certain
Speaker 1: like we say, didn't get that certain or horn, but
Speaker 1: I think it was the next best option. Plus we
Speaker 1: picked up a third, so I'm overall, I'm happy so
Speaker 1: far with the draft. Dave Hellman, who also is a
Speaker 1: part of our Dallas Cowboys podcast family, he does great work.
Speaker 1: He broke down Parsons and talked about the six and
Speaker 1: a half sacks that the guy got. So if you've
Speaker 1: got a linebacker who can find his way to the quarterback,
Speaker 1: Cowboy fans, I don't think I agree with David that
Speaker 1: you should not be sniffing your nose out and thinking
Speaker 1: that this is this is a problem, and this is bad.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys added a piece that if you ask yourself
Speaker 1: five years from now, you're hoping that this player is
Speaker 1: a good player and he's here doing some things for
Speaker 1: a while. A lot of us did not know about
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware coming out of Troy when they took him
Speaker 1: at number eleven. Once again, I call it in DeMarcus Ware,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying we're talking about a player who
Speaker 1: comes into the NFL who had a better resume than
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Ware And where's a Hall of Fame player in
Speaker 1: my opinion? And I'm not gonna call Parsons, you know,
Speaker 1: the next great thing, but I'm just saying, if you're
Speaker 1: looking for the hope side, because Barry, I feel like
Speaker 1: there was so much negativity that I was reading on
Speaker 1: social media for Cowboy fans. I'm trying to find a
Speaker 1: way today to say, hey, look look at some things
Speaker 1: that he can do. Bill Walsh was always big on
Speaker 1: don't tell me what a player can't do, Tell me
Speaker 1: what he can do from my forty nine ers, And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm trying to sit up here talk about today.
Speaker 1: For some of the things about Michael Parsons, what can
Speaker 1: he do? You've seen his speed. I watched the Pro
Speaker 1: Day on NFL Network at Penn Stay and James Franklin
Speaker 1: was raving about him in the fast I wasn't like
Speaker 1: four three nine, some crazy things lay at four three nine.
Speaker 1: He was rolling. Okay, So so right now we're talking
Speaker 1: about a fast linebacker, a guy who can find his
Speaker 1: way to sack the quarterback. Tell me what the negatives
Speaker 1: are here, especially since your corners were gone. It's not
Speaker 1: like you sat up here and said, hey man, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take Parsons over the corners. You didn't. This was
Speaker 1: your next best choice. Now I'm gonna sit up here
Speaker 1: and say this, Barry. When I saw what the Giants
Speaker 1: got from Chicago, I'm like, wow, huh because the Bear
Speaker 1: and if we talked about it before, the Bears would
Speaker 1: be willing to give up a one to move up
Speaker 1: and get a quarterback. And sure enough they did. So
Speaker 1: the Giants got a haul, and the Giants had to
Speaker 1: go to twenty and maybe the Cowboys were not ready
Speaker 1: to go to twenty. And actually the press conference, Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones raved about how he had Michael Parsons. Is that
Speaker 1: his number one defensive player on the board. I first
Speaker 1: thought is, if he's your number one defensive player on
Speaker 1: the board, why are you trading down to twelve. Whyn't
Speaker 1: you take him to ten? But hey, nobody just hit now.
Speaker 1: I'll say that, and I'll say this in Jerry's defense.
Speaker 1: They traded down two spots when they took Roy Williams.
Speaker 1: Eons to go back was at two thousand and three
Speaker 1: when they took Boy, but they or two thousand and two,
Speaker 1: but they trade it down two spots and picked up
Speaker 1: a third from Kansas City to get him. So he
Speaker 1: does have precedent in doing that. He does have precedent
Speaker 1: in doing that. And I guess he was pretty sure
Speaker 1: that nobody was going to take Michael Parsons at eleven,
Speaker 1: so they could go ahead and get to twelve, and
Speaker 1: maybe Chicago called them, and they just didn't want to
Speaker 1: fall all the way to twenty to do it because
Speaker 1: he years of my thought, if you go to twenty,
Speaker 1: you could take Christian Barmore, the defensive tackle out of Alabama,
Speaker 1: but they took Parsons. They like Parsons. There's a need
Speaker 1: for Parsons for everybody out there that's unhappy with Jalen Smith,
Speaker 1: and you see it all social media. Bunch of people
Speaker 1: like Cutchings everybody, and for the people who are like
Speaker 1: Lake Vanderish. I like him, but he's always hurt. And oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, it is Monday. They have a deadline. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys on Monday have to tell Laton Vanderess if
Speaker 1: they're gonna pick up his option for twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: of nine point one million dollars. And Stephen Jones was
Speaker 1: asked about it earlier this week, and he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: we hadn't got to that yet. So that's another interesting
Speaker 1: that's an interesting wait wait wait wait, wait wait wait,
Speaker 1: he said, he asked them about the fifth year option
Speaker 1: and it's it's due Monday, right, Monday is the deadline
Speaker 1: of where you got to tell somebody or not if
Speaker 1: they're gonna be, you know, here for their fifth year option.
Speaker 1: And he said, we haven't got to that yet a
Speaker 1: couple of days away. Man, Okay, And I'll say this.
Speaker 1: I'll say this. They didn't have the draft yet. You
Speaker 1: didn't know what you were gonna have. So why, you know,
Speaker 1: why make a decision, Why come out and make and
Speaker 1: say we're gonna do this or that. You don't have
Speaker 1: to yet. Let's see what your team is. Um if
Speaker 1: they're still having cap issues, they may decide, you know,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do this. Garrett Bolts was under that
Speaker 1: same scenario with Denver where they didn't pick up his
Speaker 1: fifth year option. He came out and the balled last
Speaker 1: year and they gave him a new contract. So you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't if you if you say to the player,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna pick up the fiftyear option, that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that you can't therefore go and do another contract
Speaker 1: with the player. So they basically say, too late, banderash,
Speaker 1: you know what, prove it, you know, give us a
Speaker 1: prove it year this year, and then you know, maybe
Speaker 1: we certain they've got that opportunity, or they could throw
Speaker 1: the franchise second. I mean there's options, there's definitely options.
Speaker 1: There's definitely Let me ask you this new let me
Speaker 1: ask you this real quick. For as far as the
Speaker 1: Draverton get back to the draft, do you think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys made the best valued pick and getting Michael Parsons there?
Speaker 1: I mean they because they could have got the tackle
Speaker 1: from Northwestern I believe his name is for Shaun Slater.
Speaker 1: I believe his name was. They could have gotten him
Speaker 1: if they stayed at ten. Do you think, out of
Speaker 1: those two those two scenarios, if they made the best
Speaker 1: overall value pick by getting Michael Parsons at well rather
Speaker 1: than sticking with Rashawn Slater at that tackle who could
Speaker 1: have been a guard or he could have been a
Speaker 1: swing tackle, anything like that, do you think they made
Speaker 1: the right choice? Do? Okay, Um, I'm glad you asked this.
Speaker 1: I think this is a very very good question. We
Speaker 1: all love Zach Martin and what he is as a
Speaker 1: football player. He's building a Hall of Fame resume coming
Speaker 1: out Inn Order Dame. He was a left tackle. He
Speaker 1: was so good he was the Bowl Game MVP of
Speaker 1: the Yankee Bowl at the tackle position. Tackle position, all right,
Speaker 1: that tells you how dominant he was. The Cowboys drafted
Speaker 1: him and immediately put him at guard. The reason why
Speaker 1: the arm length didn't have long arms. He didn't they
Speaker 1: you know, and if the Cowboys felt he didn't have
Speaker 1: the kind of arms that they want for a tackle,
Speaker 1: so he went inside. Rashawn Slater has short arms in
Speaker 1: the Cowboys system. Okay, and make sure I say this
Speaker 1: straight for people who in the Cowboys system. He's a
Speaker 1: guard person. I talked to you said, this guy could
Speaker 1: be an all pro guard. He has Zach Martin traits.
Speaker 1: That's how much they liked Rashaan Slater and what they
Speaker 1: thought of Rashaan Slater, but they were not going to
Speaker 1: draft a guard at twelve. Versus, we need some help
Speaker 1: on defense. Here's a dynamic defensive player in our opinion,
Speaker 1: who can help us. Let us go back to what
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn had in Seattle, which helped him land the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons job. Bobby Wagoner, you had kJ Wright, you
Speaker 1: had really good linebacker play, and you had dudes who
Speaker 1: could get across the football field. We keep talking about
Speaker 1: trying to give dan Quinn players. Did you give him
Speaker 1: a player? I feel like you gave him Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1: You gave him a player. You gave him a fast
Speaker 1: guy in this league where you need fast people. You
Speaker 1: gave him a guy who when you look at the
Speaker 1: tape of what we've seen, the guy was producing. Will
Speaker 1: he be a walk in starter? He hasn't played in
Speaker 1: two years. I don't think he will. But can't he
Speaker 1: help your football team? Yeah? If Jalen Smith does not
Speaker 1: get back to being the player you wanted to be,
Speaker 1: then maybe he's that guy on third downs. If Lake
Speaker 1: vander Ess just hurt, then maybe he's that guy that's playing.
Speaker 1: But you have two question marks at your two starting linebackers.
Speaker 1: You needed help on all three levels. We said we
Speaker 1: need to help on all three levels. But going back
Speaker 1: to your original point about Slater, Slater's a guard for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. He's a guard and he'll be a tackle
Speaker 1: out there for the Chargers. And that's great for them,
Speaker 1: that's what they want. But with the way the Cowboys
Speaker 1: play their guys and the way they run their system
Speaker 1: for the offensive line, he was a guard, and I
Speaker 1: just don't think he'd take a guard at twelve, So
Speaker 1: good question. I did. A lot of people talked about
Speaker 1: putting Slater there, but I just knowing the Cowboys the
Speaker 1: way they operate, I'm like, NA, you don't. He's a guard.
Speaker 1: You didn't need to do that for a guard. You're right,
Speaker 1: that's a little high for like you said, the guard.
Speaker 1: And he played tackle his whole his whole career, and
Speaker 1: he's moving him in the guard. Who knows what he
Speaker 1: would project ass and with Michael Parsons, With Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: out there, I mean, we know what he can do.
Speaker 1: We know what he can do. He's sideline the sideline,
Speaker 1: he's explosive, he can cover, and that's what we've been needing.
Speaker 1: That's what we've been needing on the defensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball. It's not the secondary pick. It's not that
Speaker 1: blue chip prospect I wanted to get, like in certain
Speaker 1: and Horse or Horn. But this guy, I mean, he
Speaker 1: can fly, he can fly all around, and what we've
Speaker 1: been missing since probably twenty eighteen when an LV and
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith were rolling and they were, you know, probably
Speaker 1: the best tandem of linebackers in the league at that point.
Speaker 1: If we've been missing that sideline, the sideline guy, the
Speaker 1: guy that can can make everybody right, no matter if
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman hits the wrong gap or who gets
Speaker 1: pushed out of his gap. We need somebody with explosiveness
Speaker 1: that can make everybody around them better and everybody around
Speaker 1: them right. And I'm not I'm not sure this is
Speaker 1: the right I'm not sure Michael Parsons can do that,
Speaker 1: but I think he gives the Cowboys the best opportunity
Speaker 1: to have that sideline, a sideline guy who can cover
Speaker 1: as well and not get exposed on those third and mediums,
Speaker 1: because that's what killed us as a defense last year.
Speaker 1: We did. It's not like you know, we were giving
Speaker 1: up huge, huge chunks on firsts. It was the third
Speaker 1: and five, third and six, third and sevens were that medium,
Speaker 1: that medium third down range where the backs come alive,
Speaker 1: the tight ends come alive, and they ended up picking
Speaker 1: us apart in that core part of our defense. So
Speaker 1: I think this guy can come in and give us
Speaker 1: an upgrade at that if he's able to be a
Speaker 1: day one starter. Now, that's that's the question that's still
Speaker 1: out there. Can he come in after missing a year,
Speaker 1: Can he come in and unseat one of these guys
Speaker 1: at that linebacker position. I'm not sure about that, but
Speaker 1: like we've said before, there's a long history with these
Speaker 1: linebackers of being injured. So I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: halfway through the season, or maybe even the first couple
Speaker 1: of games through the season, this guy doesn't come in
Speaker 1: and make a rotational piece and eventually take over the
Speaker 1: starting role for these guys, because he's that explosive and
Speaker 1: he could be that he could have that much of
Speaker 1: an impact on the defense. We just need on our defense.
Speaker 1: We need some juice. We need some we need an
Speaker 1: infusion of juice on that defense. There was exactly there
Speaker 1: was just too many times last year where guys we
Speaker 1: looked like they were lolling around, like they were running
Speaker 1: in quicksand like it feel like everybody was running circles
Speaker 1: around our defense. And I think if you got a
Speaker 1: guy with has juice like he has and can get
Speaker 1: from sideline the sideline like that, I think he's definitely
Speaker 1: an upgrade for our defense and he should be one
Speaker 1: of the starting linebackers here soon when the season starts.
Speaker 1: Before we go to break Baron, impose this to you
Speaker 1: because you played in the National Football League. You played
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. You played on a really good Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Jaguar defense that ended up going into the AFC Championship
Speaker 1: game with a lead in the second half before losing
Speaker 1: to the Patriots. When you bring in a player like
Speaker 1: Parsons as a number one draft pick and you're an
Speaker 1: incumbent like Layton Banderesh and Jalen Smith, does how much
Speaker 1: does it increase the competition in the room? And how
Speaker 1: much do those two players who have been starters and
Speaker 1: have gone to the Pro Bowl do they Do they
Speaker 1: feel any heat? Do they feel any pressure to keep
Speaker 1: what they have? How does that work in the locker room? Oh,
Speaker 1: without a doubt, Without a doubt, you feel heat when
Speaker 1: you got someone drafted in the first round at your position,
Speaker 1: knowing that a they're they're coming basically for your job.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna feel the heat. And this is
Speaker 1: a guy that you know, everybody raved about saying how
Speaker 1: explosive he was and how he can help any defense
Speaker 1: out there. So you're gonna feel the heat. And it's
Speaker 1: up to jay Len and it's up to Lve to
Speaker 1: to step up their game and that level of competition.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know me for for a fact. You
Speaker 1: know when I was having my competitions with the will
Speaker 1: JJ Wilcox or Rodney Pool, when I was trying to
Speaker 1: get started as a starter in the safety unit, I
Speaker 1: made sure I worked out with those guys. I made
Speaker 1: sure like, look, I'm getting this closed with I can
Speaker 1: with you guys to make sure they look if the
Speaker 1: if their game is going up and up and up,
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure my game matches. There's because I
Speaker 1: know that they're coming from my job in the long haul.
Speaker 1: So for them, they I mean, it's there's two ways
Speaker 1: to approach it. Either you can be that you know
Speaker 1: that mentor to him, show him the rope, show him
Speaker 1: the game and kind of be that that Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: kind of kind of big brother to these guys. Or
Speaker 1: you can pull the Brett Farve route where it's like,
Speaker 1: hey man, this is my job. You're trying to get
Speaker 1: my job. I'm not helping you out. You see how
Speaker 1: he did Aaron Rodgers. When he first came in, he
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not helping you out, and that was
Speaker 1: kind of my moldya and my mold was kind of
Speaker 1: just a you know, we cool, but you're coming from
Speaker 1: my job in the end of the round, so I
Speaker 1: can't give you all my secrets. And it's just gonna
Speaker 1: be up to them to decide what type of role
Speaker 1: they want to play with a guy coming in trying
Speaker 1: to take their job. All right, Um, let's squeeze in
Speaker 1: a break here. The Cowboys have four picks today. One
Speaker 1: in the second round, number forty four, three in the
Speaker 1: third round, number seventy five, number eighty four, in number
Speaker 1: ninety nine. Barry and I will give you our take
Speaker 1: about who you want. We've got a couple of folks
Speaker 1: all right, weighing in right now here following us here
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Speaker 1: you want to see? Who do you want to see
Speaker 1: the Cowboys take? Who'd be your ideal person in the
Speaker 1: second round or position? Let us know, let's chat about it.
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Speaker 1: reported joined by Barry Church, former Dallas Cowboys safety. We
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Speaker 1: is the pick at twelve. This is a guy who
Speaker 1: when he played in twenty nineteen was an All American player.
Speaker 1: Guys resume with a proven player. Okay, so the Cowboys
Speaker 1: got that. They helped their defense. They have one pick
Speaker 1: to day in the second round, that's at forty four.
Speaker 1: They've got three picks to day in the third round
Speaker 1: seventy five, eighty four, ninety nine. Church, what position or
Speaker 1: what player would you like to see in round two
Speaker 1: and rounds? Who? And I'm not sure if we're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to get there because we pick twelfth in
Speaker 1: round two, so I'm not sure he'll still be around.
Speaker 1: But I would love to see them get to safety
Speaker 1: from TCU. I would love to see them be able
Speaker 1: to grab him. I think he's a playmaker out there.
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that he has multiple position flexibility.
Speaker 1: I think he could play that high hoole safety. He
Speaker 1: can play in the box, and I think he could
Speaker 1: play a little bit nickel as well. He has cover
Speaker 1: skills and he's kind of a ballhawk as well. I mean,
Speaker 1: so to me, I think he checks all the boxes
Speaker 1: for a safety that you would love to put into
Speaker 1: this defense. He doesn't have to be a Day one
Speaker 1: starter at all. I mean you could put you can
Speaker 1: put him behind a Kaz, let him, let him learn
Speaker 1: behind Kaz for a little bit, and maybe sprinkle him
Speaker 1: in on a couple of dime packages or a couple
Speaker 1: or a couple of nickel packages here and there. But
Speaker 1: I would love to see the Cowboys and be able
Speaker 1: to get this guy. Like I said, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if he's gonna be there or not, but this is
Speaker 1: a homegrown dude. TCU played there, So for me, I
Speaker 1: would love to see them grab him. But it's between
Speaker 1: him for the second round pick. It's between him and
Speaker 1: I would love also for them to get that defensive
Speaker 1: tackle from Alabama. I don't know if he'll be able
Speaker 1: he'll be there as well, because I think he might
Speaker 1: go early in the second round. But those two guys,
Speaker 1: I would love to see them adds this defense, especially
Speaker 1: on the defensive line. I mean, we need an interior
Speaker 1: defensive line piece. To go with Neville Gallimore in there.
Speaker 1: We know right now we've got Tristan Hill coming off
Speaker 1: our ACL. Not sure what he's gonna look like this season,
Speaker 1: but I would love for him to be able to
Speaker 1: get down there and just help against this run because
Speaker 1: that's what destroyed us last year, especially on the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the run destroyed us. I mean it's Casper
Speaker 1: going for three hundred yards meant four or five games
Speaker 1: against US Casper going for three hundred yards. So for me,
Speaker 1: we got to improve that interior part of the defensive line.
Speaker 1: I would love them to get one of those two players,
Speaker 1: just not sure if they're going to be there at
Speaker 1: twelve for us to grab. Okay, let's start with TCU
Speaker 1: safety Trayvon Merrick Marek was the Jim Thorpe Award winner
Speaker 1: as the top defensive back in the nation, beat out
Speaker 1: Patrick's Rutan and JC Horn for that. So he's on
Speaker 1: the board. You talked about it, all right. The twelfth
Speaker 1: pick in the second round, seven interceptions, twenty eight passes
Speaker 1: defended the last three years. Here is kind of the juice.
Speaker 1: With three picks in the third round, are you willing
Speaker 1: to give up let's say number ninety nine to move
Speaker 1: up and go get your safety or as you spoke about,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle Christian Barbore from Alabama six foot four, three
Speaker 1: hundred ten pounds, ten tackles, fifteen point five sacks for
Speaker 1: lost and twenty four games. If you look at him,
Speaker 1: he got better as the year went on. Started off slow,
Speaker 1: but as he started to understand and getting more playing time,
Speaker 1: he seemed to be a difference maker there. So that's
Speaker 1: my question to you. If you had to trade up
Speaker 1: to get them, would you do it. I would trade
Speaker 1: up to get the tackle from Alabama. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if I would trade up to get to safety because
Speaker 1: I just feel like that tackle could affect our game
Speaker 1: more than that safety, could you know. I feel like
Speaker 1: what we did, and I spoke about earlier, what we
Speaker 1: did in the run was just down right terrible, and
Speaker 1: I think if we can upgrade that position, it'll help
Speaker 1: more than if we brought a safety in to kind
Speaker 1: of play that high hole. I think that that defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: that one or that three technique would be able to
Speaker 1: affect the game more so I would I'd be willing
Speaker 1: more to trade up for him than the safety out
Speaker 1: of TCU. Both prospects to me can help this defense
Speaker 1: in the long haul. But the more intriguing prospect to me,
Speaker 1: because how bad our run defense was, would have to
Speaker 1: be the defensive tackle from Alabama. And we've seen that
Speaker 1: the past couple of years, our second round picks that
Speaker 1: they've been right. I mean, we had Traymon Days, who
Speaker 1: was a Day one starter here for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: He went in the second round. He had an up
Speaker 1: and down season, but I think overall everybody sees him
Speaker 1: as maybe a cornerstone or he can be a building
Speaker 1: block for this defense. So the second and the third
Speaker 1: round guys, they're just as important to the development of
Speaker 1: the defense as a whole as a first round guy
Speaker 1: would be. So for me, the only one that I
Speaker 1: would trade up to get would be that defensive tackle
Speaker 1: because I think he can affect the game a lot
Speaker 1: more and he can help against such a terrible run
Speaker 1: defense as we had. So I would trade up to
Speaker 1: get him, and hopefully that TCU safety would have failed
Speaker 1: to me. But I'm not sure who he falls to
Speaker 1: me at all. Okay, so let me just check out
Speaker 1: just some of the things here that people are saying
Speaker 1: right here as I'm checking social media on our page,
Speaker 1: a couple of folks who want Barmore saying Barbour's worth
Speaker 1: trading up for. Jay says I could definitely feel Church
Speaker 1: on this. J J Okay still out there, guy from
Speaker 1: UCLA linebacker for you, saying I give up a couple
Speaker 1: of picks to move up to get him. Somebody's saying,
Speaker 1: go get the Oregon safety player here, Javon Holland, because
Speaker 1: I think the Javon Holland is safety from Wargan. I
Speaker 1: think if you don't get the safety from TCU, I
Speaker 1: believe he could be there, and I don't think you
Speaker 1: have to trade up for him to get there as well.
Speaker 1: So I think I get that trade up for the
Speaker 1: de tackle Barmar, and then I would wait in the
Speaker 1: third round to get Holland because I think he'd still
Speaker 1: be there. Okay, So let's let's just kind of go
Speaker 1: down this list right here, Okay, And this is Jomachode
Speaker 1: over the Athletic, another guy that I I love his
Speaker 1: work to appreciate. So here your top corners still on
Speaker 1: the board. A Sante Samuel Jr. Okay. The Cowboys folk
Speaker 1: at their press conference about loving guys who have dads
Speaker 1: that played in the National Football League. Now a Sante
Speaker 1: is five ten, one eighty Cowboys like these dudes. It's
Speaker 1: six ten. But oh, by the way, the dudes, you
Speaker 1: won it or off the board. So do you go
Speaker 1: ahead and say, let me get a sante Samuel who
Speaker 1: had three picks in eight games last year. Do you
Speaker 1: like him? You got Kelvin Joseph the corner from Kentucky
Speaker 1: six one ninety seven, four picks in nine games last year.
Speaker 1: You got if two Melafanu from Syracuse, big big safety
Speaker 1: six three two oh five, three picks in last twenty games.
Speaker 1: Elijah Molden. I like this kid. Elijah Molden five ten,
Speaker 1: one ninety had five picks his last seventeen games. Then
Speaker 1: he got Tyson Campbell out of Georgia one pick in
Speaker 1: three years as a starter. So these are just the corners, Okay,
Speaker 1: So let me start right. Y is a Sante sent
Speaker 1: Can you overlook the height if you're the Cowboys, If
Speaker 1: I'm the Cowboys, can't overlook the He's a perfect nickel build.
Speaker 1: But we already have two kind of perfect nickel builds
Speaker 1: under contract. And that's Anthony Brown and that's Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: and you know, I like Asante Samuel, but if his
Speaker 1: game is anything like his father's, he's the ultimate gambler,
Speaker 1: and I think we already have I think we already
Speaker 1: have a gambler in our defensive back room and Trey
Speaker 1: von dig So I'm not sure if you put two
Speaker 1: two of those same type of players. I love to gamble,
Speaker 1: like to jump routes out there on the same field
Speaker 1: because they can make plays for you. As we've seen
Speaker 1: a Scante Samuel Senior. He's made plenty of plays out there,
Speaker 1: especially in the playoffs, but that can also bite you
Speaker 1: in the butt. I mean, think about Marcus Peters. He's
Speaker 1: one of the better corners in the league. He gambles
Speaker 1: a lot and he wins a lot, but he also
Speaker 1: loses a lot. So I don't know if you want
Speaker 1: two gamble type corners out there with Diggs and a
Speaker 1: Scante Samuel Junior. I like his game, but I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if I could do two gamblers on the same secondary. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, his great stuff right here on our social
Speaker 1: media page. Somebody said I'd rather sign Sherman. Okay, Richard,
Speaker 1: should me help you? Richard Sherman can't pay Okay, Richard.
Speaker 1: It's time in his day, it is time to let
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman play somewhere else. Okay, No, no rich signing
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman is no. Okay, he's not Seattle Richard Sherman.
Speaker 1: And that's being kind to ask yourself, this why the
Speaker 1: forty nine er is letting him go? To a reason
Speaker 1: why they're letting him go. So so let's move on
Speaker 1: from Richard Sherman and what you and do we want
Speaker 1: another injury Do we want another injury prone guy? I
Speaker 1: mean that's defense is already yeah, and he's oh, now,
Speaker 1: you're just not thing. He just came off of a
Speaker 1: calf strain or a hamstring that limited him last season.
Speaker 1: So I just I'm just not a big fan of
Speaker 1: bringing injured guys into a defense that's already riddled with
Speaker 1: a lot of guys in injury prone history. All Right,
Speaker 1: So let's now look at the safeties. We already talked about.
Speaker 1: Treyva Merrick of TCU, Richie Grant, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people that like him. The kid from UCF who flashed
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl ten picks, twenty seven passes defended in
Speaker 1: the last three years, Javon Holland of Oregon. That's a
Speaker 1: player six one, two h seven, nine picks, nineteen passes
Speaker 1: defended in twenty seven games. One issue I'm gonna wonder
Speaker 1: about do they hold it against Richie Grant that he
Speaker 1: did not play in a Power five conference versus a
Speaker 1: guy like Holland who did. What a guy? But look
Speaker 1: look at Richie Grants. But but look at Richie Grant's
Speaker 1: productivity out there. I mean you just you just know
Speaker 1: the ten picks, twenty seven passes defense in three years.
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's getting his hands on the ball,
Speaker 1: and he's getting his hands on the ball. He's showing
Speaker 1: he has a lot of range. And wouldn't that be
Speaker 1: special if we had a guy with a lot of
Speaker 1: range and not back in, especially in that single high
Speaker 1: defense that Dan Quinn loves to run. I mean, he
Speaker 1: got kazy there right now, But who knows what he's
Speaker 1: coming off what he's gonna do coming off of out Achilles.
Speaker 1: Richie Grant is a guy that can get can be
Speaker 1: that ball hocking guy in the back end. So I
Speaker 1: wouldn't put a pass the Cowboys a sniff around for
Speaker 1: Richie Grant. Here's a player that I saw some tape
Speaker 1: of Look, I didn't dive heavy into it, Okay, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I just saw highlights. That never tells you the whole story.
Speaker 1: But when Indiana was balling this year, their defense was good.
Speaker 1: The quarterback was dynamic, and when he got hurt then
Speaker 1: the whole thing fell apart. But the defense was making
Speaker 1: some plays. Jamar Johnson six foot two o five seven picks,
Speaker 1: fourteen passes defended in thirty one games. So while there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people out there who are big
Speaker 1: on Richie Graham, Jamar Johnson is a guy that I
Speaker 1: think is someone to look at. So those are safeties.
Speaker 1: Let's get in here to edge rushers here that are left,
Speaker 1: all right. Ziz Ojulari of Georgia. He's out there. Fourteen sacks,
Speaker 1: eighteen and a half tackles for loss of twenty four games.
Speaker 1: Carlos Bashing over at Wake four sixty three, two seventy four,
Speaker 1: twenty and a half sacks, thirty five point five tackles
Speaker 1: for lost in forty five games. The big kid from Texas,
Speaker 1: Joseph Asai. Eleven sacks, thirty point five tackles lost in
Speaker 1: thirty six games. Ronnie Perkins of Oklahoma six three two
Speaker 1: fifty three, sixteen and a half sacks, thirty two tackles
Speaker 1: for lost in thirty three games. So those are some guys.
Speaker 1: Are Rashad Weaver from Pittsburgh six two fifty nine, seventeen sacks,
Speaker 1: thirty four point five tackles for loss in thirty five games.
Speaker 1: You go over here to the defensive tackle, all right,
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn is a defensive tackle guy. Christian Barmoer Okay,
Speaker 1: we've spoke about him earlier from Alabama six four three ten.
Speaker 1: Here's a player that I can see them liking. Big
Speaker 1: boy out of Washington, levi On no Wazoique Okay sixty
Speaker 1: three two nine seven seven sacks, sixteen tackles for loss
Speaker 1: in thirty nine games. Marlin Twee Poor Loto from USC
Speaker 1: six two three oh five eight and a half sacks,
Speaker 1: fifteen tackles for lost in thirty three games. Milton Williams
Speaker 1: out of Louisiana Tech. Sixty three two eighty four. This
Speaker 1: is a guy that has people have talked about who
Speaker 1: dived deep in the draft like him. Jay Tufele from
Speaker 1: USC six two three h five dayalen Um dave On
Speaker 1: I should say Davion Nixon, Iowa sixty three thirteen, eight
Speaker 1: and a half sacks, nineteen tackles for lost and twenty
Speaker 1: one games. Alee McNeil out of NC State six two
Speaker 1: three seventeen, ten sacks, seventeen and a half tackles for
Speaker 1: lost with thirty five games. I mean, there's there's a
Speaker 1: there's a big boy right there. Some of his tape
Speaker 1: man is fun to watch. Often I love about Oh God, God,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, just more guys that you know
Speaker 1: are available as the Cowboys have picks forty four, seventy five,
Speaker 1: eighty four, ninety nine often to tackle. Okay, for those
Speaker 1: that are concerned about Tyrn Smith and Lel Collins, you've
Speaker 1: got Tavin Jenkins from Oklahoma State six foot six three
Speaker 1: seventeen out there, Samuel Cosme, Texas six foot sixty three fourteen,
Speaker 1: Liam Eichenberg, Order Dame six foot six three oh six.
Speaker 1: These Order Dame kids in their producing out there have
Speaker 1: made the adjustments to the pros very well. Um, look
Speaker 1: no further than Zach Martin Walter Little of Stanford six
Speaker 1: foot seven, three thirteen. You know Stanford is a school
Speaker 1: that runs a pro offense. He has nineteen starts at
Speaker 1: left tackle. Brady Christensen from BYU six five three h
Speaker 1: two thirty eight all thirty eight starts came at left tackle.
Speaker 1: Dylan Raznis from North Dakota State six foot six three
Speaker 1: oh one thirty two starts at left tackle. James Hudson
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati six ft five three thirteen had all of
Speaker 1: his eleven starts at left tackle. Deontay Smith at East
Speaker 1: Carolina six five three h four A lot of people
Speaker 1: think this is an underrated player. Twenty nine starts at
Speaker 1: left tackle, one at left guard. So there's kind of
Speaker 1: some areas where you know, the Cowboys could be looking
Speaker 1: at with these four pigs here that they could be making.
Speaker 1: And Jay, you're right here on you're right here on
Speaker 1: the our social media feed here for the players Lounge
Speaker 1: on Twitter. There's some great players here. There's some I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say great. There are some players that can help
Speaker 1: the Cowboys exactly and defensively. But if you're in love
Speaker 1: with someone, okay, this is one where you know, who
Speaker 1: are you going to stay up on the table for.
Speaker 1: Are you willing to give up a third round? Are
Speaker 1: you willing to give up ninety nine and forty four
Speaker 1: to move up to get yourself to forty or forty
Speaker 1: one to get you know, to get whoever you want,
Speaker 1: or get to thirty. You know, just just that that process.
Speaker 1: If you've taken that pick from Philadelphia, you got it
Speaker 1: for a reason. You keep it because that's eighty four.
Speaker 1: You keep that in sex head move ninety nine if
Speaker 1: you feel like, hey, we've got to get Barmore. If
Speaker 1: you tell me the Cowboys walk out of of today
Speaker 1: with Mike you know, after two days, walk away with
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, you walk away with a corner. You walk
Speaker 1: away with Christian Barmore and maybe another or maybe an
Speaker 1: offensive an offensive tackle. I think Cowboy fans would say
Speaker 1: you've helped improve your football team. I think so. And
Speaker 1: I think if you're able to walk away with with
Speaker 1: talents like that within the first three rounds, I think
Speaker 1: the rest of the draft is just it's just profit
Speaker 1: at that point. I mean, you're just adding depth at
Speaker 1: that point, because you got If you're able to go
Speaker 1: up there and you're able to get a bar Mark
Speaker 1: and you're able to get offensive lineman, that can be
Speaker 1: a swing kind of kind of depth piece, kind of
Speaker 1: like how Joe Looney was kind of like that backup
Speaker 1: spot throughout the whole offensive line, and then you addressed
Speaker 1: the secondary need as well. I mean you you pretty
Speaker 1: much addressed your deep or you pretty much addressed your
Speaker 1: whole team, and you upgraded your whole team. I mean
Speaker 1: that's what we came into this whole draft talking about
Speaker 1: where do we think this team needs to be upgraded,
Speaker 1: and we all pretty much agreed that it needs to
Speaker 1: be on the defensive side of the ball. Now, you
Speaker 1: already got Parson or Michael Parsons in there on that
Speaker 1: second level of the defense and the linebacker situation. Now,
Speaker 1: to me, you look at the defensive line because I
Speaker 1: think to build a successful defense you always start from
Speaker 1: the front. You go to the front to back. Now,
Speaker 1: with this particular draft, we didn't see any blueship guys
Speaker 1: that can come in and be day one starters on
Speaker 1: that defensive line and help upgrade our defensive line. So
Speaker 1: that's why they went to the second level with Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1: But now that you're in the second round, you're in
Speaker 1: the third round, I think you have to address that
Speaker 1: defensive line. And like all those edge rutchers edge rushers
Speaker 1: that you mentioned, they're all right up, you know, dan
Speaker 1: Quinn's alley. As far as body type, they're big, long
Speaker 1: rangey type guys who he loves, So he has his
Speaker 1: options of edge rushers out there. But I'm not sure
Speaker 1: you plunge early in the second or early in the
Speaker 1: third with an edge rusher when you get already you
Speaker 1: know Lawrence on one side, Tank Lawrence on one side,
Speaker 1: and you got an emerging Randy Gregory on the other side.
Speaker 1: So I don't think you need to go and trade
Speaker 1: up for an edge rusher early in the second round.
Speaker 1: But I would if it was for that interior defensive
Speaker 1: line because we do not have anybody outside of Neville Gallimore.
Speaker 1: No disrespect to Tristan him, but we don't have anybody
Speaker 1: outside of Neville Gallimore that can help pretty much be
Speaker 1: stout against the run. Now we were able to get
Speaker 1: this ball more kid in there, I think he'd be
Speaker 1: a huge upgrade for that defensive line, and I think
Speaker 1: he'd be a huge upgrade for his defense when it
Speaker 1: comes to stopping the run. And then you fall back
Speaker 1: to the secondary. After you fall back to the secondary,
Speaker 1: like you said, you had options. You got that safety
Speaker 1: from TCU, you got hauling from Oregon, who I think
Speaker 1: you can get in the third round, and then you
Speaker 1: also have a Sante Samuel jul Your who, like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't like the gambling the gambling as much, but
Speaker 1: if he's there, I think you might have to take
Speaker 1: a flyer on him, and that way you can upgrade
Speaker 1: every level of the defense without having to do too
Speaker 1: much or spend too much to upgrade it. So I
Speaker 1: think that'd be an extremely successful draft early on, and
Speaker 1: the rest of the draft will just be profit because
Speaker 1: you can just get depth pieces for either offensively or defensively.
Speaker 1: So if we were able to pull that off today,
Speaker 1: I think this draft will become an a plus. Okay,
Speaker 1: we had somebody ask us right here on the social
Speaker 1: media page, who do you want at corner? Tell you what.
Speaker 1: We'll take a break and we'll come back and talk
Speaker 1: about a potential corner because the Cowboys need to address
Speaker 1: that one pretty quick. Here on Day two and rounds
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Speaker 1: Lounge on day two of the NFL Draft, we appreciate
Speaker 1: you joining us. Some new we Scrugs a long time
Speaker 1: Cowboys reporter and right alongside my man Barry Church for
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Safety our other run and buddy Danny McCrae
Speaker 1: is on assignments of the Cowboys. Get Michael Parsons and
Speaker 1: around number one and pick up a third round pick
Speaker 1: for Philadelphia as they dropped from ten to twelve. The
Speaker 1: two corners that the Cowboys had eyes on, JC Horn
Speaker 1: and Patrick's utan. The second we're taking at eight and nine.
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys left without them, and for many people
Speaker 1: they think they got the third best defensive player. Some
Speaker 1: people had Michael Parsons rated hire as a defensive player
Speaker 1: on their big boards. Jerry Jones comes out and says
Speaker 1: that Michael Parsons was their number one guy on the
Speaker 1: draft board. So now we get ready for round two
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys have four picks, Okay, one pick in
Speaker 1: the second round, number forty four, three picks in the
Speaker 1: third seventy five, eighty four which they got from the Eagles,
Speaker 1: and ninety nine which was a comp pick. So the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are rolling with four picks today. Someone had asked
Speaker 1: us right here on the Twitter page players allow social
Speaker 1: media page, who do you want at corner? All of
Speaker 1: us right now are an agreement eve our producer Chris
Speaker 1: Bean that Asante Samuel Junior is not going to be
Speaker 1: the guy. From the standpoint, he doesn't fit the defense
Speaker 1: because of his size. And when you're thinking about who
Speaker 1: you want for the Cowboys, don't think about who you want,
Speaker 1: think about who they like in their scheme of what
Speaker 1: they want, which is why I went back to Rashon
Speaker 1: Slater when Barry asked me earlier. Rashaan Slater has small arms.
Speaker 1: In the Cowboys system, for Lyneman, he would be a guard,
Speaker 1: not a tackle, so he wasn't worth taking at twelve.
Speaker 1: So when we start to look at corners, what do
Speaker 1: we know? We know that Dan Quinn and Chris Rashard
Speaker 1: were both on that Seahawks staff. They like tall corners.
Speaker 1: They like guys that are six feet preferably six one
Speaker 1: who got long arms. So that's where you start to say,
Speaker 1: take off, Samuel. Look at Kelvin Joseph of Kentucky six
Speaker 1: ft one ninety five, four picks in nine games last year,
Speaker 1: if A two Melafanu of Syracuse sixty three two oh five,
Speaker 1: three picks in his last twenty games. His brothers in
Speaker 1: the league, Elijah Molden of Washington five ninety two, five
Speaker 1: picks in his last seventeen games, Tyson Campbell, Georgia six
Speaker 1: one ninety three, one interception in three years as a starter.
Speaker 1: So those are guys I'm looking at right now that
Speaker 1: that you know seemingly our best values church at corner um.
Speaker 1: I am intrigued by Elijah Molden. I ended up watching
Speaker 1: some of the Pro Day from Washington and listening to
Speaker 1: them and just kind of some of the competition that
Speaker 1: this guy has played. I just think that maybe he
Speaker 1: may be a guy that that that they go for.
Speaker 1: But honestly, I don't know, because we haven't talked to
Speaker 1: Dan Quinnberry. I don't know what they'll really do outside
Speaker 1: of knocking a guy like Samuel off the board because
Speaker 1: of the height, you know. And I tend to agree
Speaker 1: with you on that, Elijah Moulden Pick. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is kind of a Swiss Army knife guy. He played
Speaker 1: all around for Washington as far as in the secondary
Speaker 1: corner safety nickel. He can be that versatile piece that
Speaker 1: if anybody goes down he can plug and play in.
Speaker 1: So I tend to agree with you on that one
Speaker 1: for the draft. But but a corner that you know
Speaker 1: that we could take a flyer on it, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: break the bank. Is you know who's still out there
Speaker 1: in free agency? Would be Breshard Brelan. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: this is a guy who played at Kansas City when
Speaker 1: these past couple years he was part of the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl team. He's part of the Super Bowl run last year.
Speaker 1: And here's a guy that he's long, he's lanky. He
Speaker 1: kind of fits that mold of a Legion of Boom
Speaker 1: type corner, a Dan Quink type corner. He kind of
Speaker 1: reminds me of Sherman, but a little bit younger version
Speaker 1: of him. And this is a guy who he's not
Speaker 1: going to break the bank if we come in there.
Speaker 1: And he's a veteran guy who can come in kind
Speaker 1: of teach this young secondary because we have an extremely
Speaker 1: young secondary right now. This is a guy that can
Speaker 1: kind of teach them the ropes at the corner position
Speaker 1: as well as being a valuable starting corner out there
Speaker 1: for us. And it will give us time for these
Speaker 1: young corners that we do get in the draft for
Speaker 1: them to test to learn under a vet type corner
Speaker 1: out there. So for me, you know, I'm still not
Speaker 1: ruling the ruling out that we get a veteran corner
Speaker 1: in free agency, seeing as though there are a couple
Speaker 1: out there. So I threw Bhard Brelan out there, but
Speaker 1: as far as the draft is because and I tend
Speaker 1: to agree with new Ya on this one. Elijah Malten
Speaker 1: kind of that Swiss Army knife guy that you could
Speaker 1: you need in your secondary. When I was there, it
Speaker 1: was Orlando Scandric. He was our Swiss Army knife. He
Speaker 1: could play outside corner, he could play inside corner, he
Speaker 1: could blitz, he can do all that stuff against a run.
Speaker 1: So to me, you can never have enough guys who
Speaker 1: can productive players. So for me, you can never have
Speaker 1: enough guys who can go out there and be that
Speaker 1: Swiss Army knife because depth is key. As we've seen
Speaker 1: these past couple of years, depth is key, and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind them bringing a guy like Elijah in there
Speaker 1: to add as a depth piece. What I hope to
Speaker 1: see with these four picks, and maybe it's three picks
Speaker 1: if they utilize one to trade up and get a play,
Speaker 1: I want product productivity for the people that don't like
Speaker 1: the Micah Parsons pick. I simply say this, look at
Speaker 1: the productivity. This is not some well we hope he
Speaker 1: can do this. You know, that was my issue with
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill. It was a whole lot of hoping with
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill that they did and it didn't work out right.
Speaker 1: Even Taco Charlton was kind of a whole well, you know,
Speaker 1: Taco ain't doing not for three years, but his last
Speaker 1: year he did something. You know, we need to see
Speaker 1: guys who've been productive during their time. That is what
Speaker 1: I'm looking for in terms of what the Cowboys do.
Speaker 1: They if they walk out of here with a tackle,
Speaker 1: a safety, a corner, and a d tackle, that'd be great.
Speaker 1: That would be great. Barmore is going to be very interesting.
Speaker 1: How do they rate him on their board? Church, because
Speaker 1: I believe if you could put in a Barmore and
Speaker 1: a Neville Gallimore, now you're cooking. Because they were thirty
Speaker 1: first against the run last year. They've got to figure
Speaker 1: out a way to stop the run. And oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, if you want to help Michael Parsons, if
Speaker 1: you want to help Jalen Smith and Layton Vanderesh, make
Speaker 1: sure these guards and centers can't get next level on
Speaker 1: them because that's what was happening last year because the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were not good on the inside. So make these
Speaker 1: guys up front be big and beefy enough. They're tying
Speaker 1: up some blockers, which allows your linebackers to scrape and
Speaker 1: go make plays. So that to me, maybe I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: while they need a corner to paying on, what's their
Speaker 1: defensive tackle man. They may make that move right up
Speaker 1: front depending on how their board set, which we don't know,
Speaker 1: but I think that's something to think about. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're one hundred percent right. When we talk about building defense,
Speaker 1: was we always talk about building from the front to
Speaker 1: the back. I mean, to me, that's the most successful
Speaker 1: way you can you can build a defense. And we've
Speaker 1: seen last year. It happened time and time again in
Speaker 1: that Baltimore game and that Cleveland game. Whichever game we
Speaker 1: got ran out of the building the offensive line for
Speaker 1: the other team, we're able to get to the second level,
Speaker 1: which is the linebackers. Like that. They were able to
Speaker 1: get up in LV and Jalen Smith's faces soon as
Speaker 1: the ball was snapped. I mean there was no reading
Speaker 1: for them. They had to fight off a block, then
Speaker 1: read the read the play, and by that time, the
Speaker 1: guy's thirty yards down the sidelines getting ready to get
Speaker 1: tackled by safety. And you can't have that. You cannot
Speaker 1: have that, especially in this type of defense where it's
Speaker 1: so simple and it's so vanilla, that you gotta be
Speaker 1: able to hitch your gaps and you gotta be able
Speaker 1: to be gap discipline or we'll see what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get ran out of the building. So we
Speaker 1: need to be more stout up front, not actually getting
Speaker 1: it to the quarterback from the interior, but holding up
Speaker 1: those guards, holding up that center from getting to the
Speaker 1: second level of picking off our linebackers and turning three
Speaker 1: to two to three yard gains into fifteen and ten
Speaker 1: yard gains. And we can't have that. We can't have
Speaker 1: that as a defense. So we need to get more stout,
Speaker 1: especially on the inside of our defensive line. Church on
Speaker 1: the social media page here man, they they on Twitter,
Speaker 1: many you brought up Rashod Brelan. You made one guy
Speaker 1: mad because he wants Sherman. He says, Richard Sherman is
Speaker 1: better than than Brelan. Richard they think Richard Sherman. So
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, we got we got Richard Sherman fan
Speaker 1: out here. Many seen have they seen Richard Sherman last year?
Speaker 1: I mean no disrespect because this guy, this guy is
Speaker 1: definitely probably going to be in the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: as a corner. But no, he want me. He could
Speaker 1: he could, he could barely run. He could barely run
Speaker 1: last year, And and that to me, he's I just
Speaker 1: don't think he's that guy we need at corner right now.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe two three years ago for sure, but now,
Speaker 1: I you know, I just don't see it. I just
Speaker 1: don't see it right now. And I mean, you talk
Speaker 1: about giving up big plays. I mean, last year he
Speaker 1: was he gave up plenty of big but I think
Speaker 1: he gave up more big plays than Anthony Brown did
Speaker 1: last year. We're saying that he's better. I don't see it.
Speaker 1: And I'm definitely not barking up that Richard Sherman tree,
Speaker 1: especially for our defense. So and this is something I
Speaker 1: wish fans would kind of think about more so. Richard
Speaker 1: Sherman played for the forty nine ers last year, and
Speaker 1: they're saying, you know what, Richard, thank you very much,
Speaker 1: we're not going to bring you back. Richard Sherman's defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: Robert Salad is with the Jets. They've not brought him
Speaker 1: over to the Jets. So Richard Sherman's still sitting out there.
Speaker 1: Go back and think about what you saw from General
Speaker 1: McCoy and Don Terry Poe, two guys that the Carolina
Speaker 1: Panthers said, you know what, we're good with and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys brought them in here. Carolina Panters didn't have a
Speaker 1: good defense last year, had new coaching tap, but they said,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't need these two guys, and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys just took him in fancies. So immediately said, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is great. Well guess what it wasn't when you
Speaker 1: start thinking about players who used to be good and
Speaker 1: what they used to be. What's that line in the wire,
Speaker 1: you know said the thing about the old days is
Speaker 1: them the old days. Yeah, that's what were good man,
Speaker 1: the old days. You know, back in the day with Seattle,
Speaker 1: he was good. He's not anymore. So it's time to
Speaker 1: move on. You need to move on. And to me,
Speaker 1: the Cats got to move on from trying to think
Speaker 1: about it. Richard Sherman, So I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: I appreciate, truly, I appreciate how you guys come up
Speaker 1: here on the players line, social media page on Twitter
Speaker 1: and get after us with your thoughts. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: we don't want another, you know, Keith Brooking type situation.
Speaker 1: I mean that was the same situation where Keith Brooking
Speaker 1: we brought him in. You know, he was he was
Speaker 1: he was later on in his years. He wasn't that
Speaker 1: same Keith Brooking that was in Atlanta, and we brought
Speaker 1: him in here to Dallas to be the starter and
Speaker 1: it just didn't pan out. He just wasn't that said,
Speaker 1: he didn't have that explosiveness. He just didn't have anymore.
Speaker 1: He was old and right now, I mean in Sherman,
Speaker 1: he's done with an achilles, he's done with a cat.
Speaker 1: He's been he's been injured, and we don't want to
Speaker 1: add another injury prone guy to an already injury riddle defense.
Speaker 1: I mean to me, it just doesn't make sense. It
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, and we don't want to bark back
Speaker 1: up that Keith Brooking tree by bringing another injury prone
Speaker 1: type guy to an injury riddle team as is. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you just jarred my memory. I was. I was
Speaker 1: looking at that. They had a bunch of photos. They
Speaker 1: were showing up Jimmy Garoppolo video Jimmy Garoppolo and talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy was hurt last year, so they showed
Speaker 1: Jimmy sitting in in the box at Niner games. Well,
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman was sitting next to Jimmy for a few
Speaker 1: games because he was hurt. He was because he was hurt.
Speaker 1: I just you need to bring it or hurt quarter
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Richard Shervant fans. Aaron Rodgers says he wants
Speaker 1: out from the green Bay Packers, and I'll say this,
Speaker 1: I understand you need help. You'd like to have another
Speaker 1: receiver besides beside Davante Adams. Last year and they go
Speaker 1: trade up to take a quarterback, your replacement, and then
Speaker 1: in the second round they go drafted running back and
Speaker 1: you already have Aaron Jones on the roster. So last
Speaker 1: year I look at Green Bay and said, man, these
Speaker 1: are two picks they made that didn't really makes sense.
Speaker 1: They got back to the NFC Championship game, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: became the MVP. Apparently, Aaron Rodgers feels disrespected by Brian Goodikins,
Speaker 1: the general manager of the team, and has said he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to go back. Packers have said they're not
Speaker 1: trading Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers can decide to go. I'll
Speaker 1: be the Jeopardy host here. So it's one more quarterback
Speaker 1: that doesn't want out. You're feeling church is I think
Speaker 1: it's I mean, just think about the disrespect right now
Speaker 1: that the Packers are thrown at Aaron Rodgers, a future
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer here, This is a future Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: a multiple time MVP, and you're telling me, ay, you're
Speaker 1: basically saying, hey, man, staying you're laying over there. All right,
Speaker 1: you're a quarterback, staying you're laying over here. Let us
Speaker 1: handle this over here. And then Aaron Rodgers is looking around, like, man,
Speaker 1: let me look at let me look at what Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay is doing. Whatever you need, Tom Brady, what you need,
Speaker 1: you need all toward all of free agents back that
Speaker 1: had that Super Bowl run. We got you. You need
Speaker 1: dis guy, We got you need, Antonio Brown, we got you.
Speaker 1: He's looking at all these other quarterbacks. It's like, hold on,
Speaker 1: I'm a Hall of Fame quarterback out here, and y'all
Speaker 1: treating me with this type of disrespect. I mean, y'all
Speaker 1: trade it up to get Jordan Love to basically replace me,
Speaker 1: and then and then throw it on top of that,
Speaker 1: I have an MVP season and your first pick is
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. Now, look, they
Speaker 1: do need a corner because Kevin King was terrible last
Speaker 1: year in that playoff game against Tampa Bay. So they
Speaker 1: definitely needed a corner, thank you. But I'm just like
Speaker 1: man man, I just I can't fathom the way they're
Speaker 1: disrespecting Aaron Rodgers right now. And I think, hey, he
Speaker 1: has all rights to say, looking ya, I don't even
Speaker 1: want to go back to Green Bay trade me. I
Speaker 1: think he has all rights to do that. So I'm
Speaker 1: on team Rodgers on this one because I just don't
Speaker 1: think Green Bay's doing him any favors right now. What
Speaker 1: the GM is doing, these are fiable offenses. And while
Speaker 1: y spellas not the NBA, we're talking about a different
Speaker 1: making player. And I mean, you see Tom Brady, you
Speaker 1: see Patrick Mahomes, you see Aaron Rodgers, and in my opinion,
Speaker 1: those are the three that have the leadership, that have
Speaker 1: the ability to carry We're talking about elite quarterback play.
Speaker 1: These are the elite of the elite. Okay, it's those
Speaker 1: three guys, in my opinion, that's the club. It's those
Speaker 1: three guys. Rogers has got the MVPs in a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: Mahomes has an MVP, has a Super Bowl. Brady more
Speaker 1: super Bowl than anybody's ever had the quarterback position, and
Speaker 1: the MVP's to go with it. Why would you mess.
Speaker 1: Why would you mess with that? Why would you not
Speaker 1: try to help that guy out? I go back to
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and how blessed he was to have Bill
Speaker 1: Polian as his general manager with the Colts and then
Speaker 1: have John Elway is his general manager in Denver. All
Speaker 1: they did was give that guy pieces. Nobody in the
Speaker 1: four years I've watched football had organizations go out of
Speaker 1: their way to give them make sure they had the
Speaker 1: talent like Peyton Manning had. You just look at first
Speaker 1: round pick like Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, the big tight
Speaker 1: end from Iowa, Dallas Clark, Dallas Clark and James Joseph
Speaker 1: and Dye was a first round pick. Donald Brown was
Speaker 1: a first round pick. Demarrius Thomas was a first round
Speaker 1: pick in different I mean, all they did was put
Speaker 1: talent around Peyton Manning and guess what it worked. The
Speaker 1: sheriff is going in the hall. Well he was. He
Speaker 1: was already elected to the Hall of Fame. He set
Speaker 1: the record of fifty five touchdown passes in a year.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen what happens. We did give a
Speaker 1: great elite player help, and if you're Aaron Rodgers, your
Speaker 1: GM is not getting you help. I get why he's upset.
Speaker 1: And to me, it's a fireball offense because this is
Speaker 1: simple to me, I mean, this is really aaron hey
Speaker 1: manum what you need now? The Packers are not a
Speaker 1: team that usually spends first round picks on wide receivers.
Speaker 1: That's not their m it's what they do. I think
Speaker 1: Sterling Sharp had been the last guy. They did that too,
Speaker 1: But you know, DeVonta Adams the second round guy. But
Speaker 1: give your boys some help. You don't sit up here,
Speaker 1: hey man, We're gonna draft a quarterback and you got
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame guy ask asked what happened to
Speaker 1: Dan Reeves when he drafted Tommy Maddox while he still
Speaker 1: had John Elway there. It ended up costing Dan Reeves
Speaker 1: his job. It ended up costing his job. Then gave
Speaker 1: it to Waite Phillips. Wade flamed out that they gave
Speaker 1: it to um uh Mike Channahan and he ended up
Speaker 1: winning two Super Bowls. But sooner or later, the ownership
Speaker 1: is going to keep. They're going to side with the
Speaker 1: player before they side with the GM, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: and to me, I just don't understand what the what
Speaker 1: the what the whole the whole tension or lack of
Speaker 1: giving this guy what he wants. I mean, look what
Speaker 1: he's done with the talent he's had. I mean, outside
Speaker 1: of Devontae Adams, I mean a lot of Lazard is
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. Um, what's what's the other guys that
Speaker 1: back Quez Scattling. I don't even know if I'm saying
Speaker 1: his name right, but I believe he was undrafted. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got Robert Tunya, who I think he was a
Speaker 1: fifth round pick. So and he's out there with Mercedes Lewis,
Speaker 1: who's in his seventeenth year at tight end. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: he's doing all of this with not getting the best
Speaker 1: talent in the world. He's still taking you guys to
Speaker 1: NFC Championship after NFC championship and you're always in contention.
Speaker 1: Just imagine where you guys would be at if you're
Speaker 1: able to give this guy a little bit more talent.
Speaker 1: And that's all he's asking for. And I don't think
Speaker 1: that's that big of a request for the Green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers to handle. You know, I just don't understand it.
Speaker 1: I remember when Ted Thompson was the general manager and
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers went to Ted Thompson. And when Buffalo was
Speaker 1: getting getting rid of their running back, this guy named
Speaker 1: beast Moode Marshawn Lynch, and Aaron Rodgers was going he
Speaker 1: went to the gym, Please get this guy. I know,
Speaker 1: I know him from our cal days. I know Marshawn Lynch.
Speaker 1: They didn't do it. They did not go get Marshawn Lynch.
Speaker 1: That was a mistake. Ladanian Thomlinson told me how the
Speaker 1: Packers had had pursued him and he decided to go
Speaker 1: to the Jets because it was New York, and he
Speaker 1: said that he thought his wife would prefer New York
Speaker 1: to Green Bay, but Aaron Rodgers wanted lt. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is kind of smart, okay. I mean, the guy didn't
Speaker 1: go to Kyle and I just kind of I kind
Speaker 1: of laugh about just these these general managers who don't
Speaker 1: want to listen to the people who were in the
Speaker 1: battles they're on the field. I mean, he's not some weirdo,
Speaker 1: he's not some guy that can't play. He's a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame player. I'm gonna listen to the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame player. When he says to me, hey, this guy
Speaker 1: can really help us. I don't understand why they won't
Speaker 1: listen to him. Meanwhile, what do we see in Tampa Bay?
Speaker 1: You know, they were like, we ain't bringing Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: next to you know, Antonio Brown is there, and what happened?
Speaker 1: And they all wear they're all wearing rings, all right,
Speaker 1: they're all where Bruce Arians had a Super Bowl ring.
Speaker 1: Jason like, the GM has a super Bowl ring. So
Speaker 1: they finally got around here doing it. Tom Brady's way,
Speaker 1: who they're super Bowl champs. I don't get it, man,
Speaker 1: there's certain players you should listen to. And Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: didn't feel like he was able to get his message
Speaker 1: to Green Bay, so he wants out. And it's a shame, man.
Speaker 1: It true. It's a shame if that guy does not
Speaker 1: retire a Green Bay Packer, if you watch him put
Speaker 1: in another uniform the way you saw Brett Farve at
Speaker 1: the end playing for the Jets and the Vikings, that's
Speaker 1: gonna be sad because this is this was avoidable. Okay,
Speaker 1: the Brett thing I got. He kept threatening, I'm going
Speaker 1: with time, I'm gonna retire. Finally he said, yeah, we
Speaker 1: go drafting and Rodgers and he was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know they're like, maybe tire to you not known him.
Speaker 1: So Brett caused that the pack organization has made this
Speaker 1: a mess. Facts all facts. So the Cowboys don't have
Speaker 1: that issue because they've got a quarterback who's tied up
Speaker 1: here long term, and the head coach likes the quarterback,
Speaker 1: the owner likes the quarterback, the executive vice president he
Speaker 1: likes the quarterback. So luckily the Cowboys don't have that.
Speaker 1: But what they need to give the quarterback it's some
Speaker 1: defensive help. So today I'm looking for the Cowboys to
Speaker 1: address more defense. They need to get a corner. Probably
Speaker 1: got to get the corner quick. They need the safety.
Speaker 1: In a perfect world, if they could find a way
Speaker 1: to use one of these third round picks and go
Speaker 1: get Trayvon Merrick TCU, that would be pretty fun. It'd
Speaker 1: be pretty cool. Or go get Christian Barmore, the defensive
Speaker 1: tackle from Alabama. I'd love to see them get one
Speaker 1: of these, one of these productive players. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: fun to see. Church can't wait to see what happens tonight. Man,
Speaker 1: my eyes will be glued to the television, watch the
Speaker 1: NFL network for Shoore. I mean, it ain't nothing else
Speaker 1: to do. There's raining outside. I can't golf, so I
Speaker 1: might as well enjoy the draft. I'll be sitting at
Speaker 1: the house waiting to see what these picks come when
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Hopefully it's what we just said. Hopefully
Speaker 1: it's Balmore. Hopefully it's a kid from TCU and we
Speaker 1: get a solid corner in there to go ahead and
Speaker 1: back up some of these guys in the depth in
Speaker 1: the secondary. But we need it. We need defensive help,
Speaker 1: and hopefully we get it here in the second and
Speaker 1: third round. And also i'll throw it offensive tackle. I
Speaker 1: think that you know where their board is. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I could. He had an offensive tackle and we
Speaker 1: spoke about that as well. There are some good tackles
Speaker 1: that are out here. I don't expect the kids from
Speaker 1: Notre Dame to be there, but they got choices, man.
Speaker 1: And that's a Liam Eichenberg. That's the that's the kid's name,
Speaker 1: Tavin James from Oklahoma. Say there's some players out there,
Speaker 1: um Walker Little said, six foot seven three, thirteen nineteen starts,
Speaker 1: all nineteen starts came at left tackle over at Stanford.
Speaker 1: They're players that the Cowboys can add at the tackle.
Speaker 1: Spot who fit the profile, so they can have some
Speaker 1: insurance for Tyrn Smith and Lal Collins and not just
Speaker 1: having tied Miseeki out there. So I think I expect
Speaker 1: them to do that. Mike McCarthy even said that he
Speaker 1: expected them in this draft to walk away with some
Speaker 1: offensive line help. So these are things to look out for.
Speaker 1: But it's gonna be fun, man, It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: Chris Beam, our producer, Chris has worked hard all week,
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Speaker 1: I cannot thank him enough for his professionalism. This guy's
Speaker 1: been worked with the Cowboys for over two decades. Man,
Speaker 1: he had his brother been great stuff. So Chris, I
Speaker 1: appreciate your church man. Thank you for the knowledge you
Speaker 1: know you played safety, always come with it. And for
Speaker 1: Cowboy fans who were down on Michael Parsons, I simply
Speaker 1: say this, go back and check out the productivity this
Speaker 1: guy can play. The Cowboys got a player who's productive.
Speaker 1: The corners weren't there. I think feel like they did
Speaker 1: the thing they needed to do, picked up a third
Speaker 1: round pick. Hey, everybody, that's the Players Lodge, brought to
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