WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Projecting Parsons 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.120 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:17.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the player's label, 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:22.280 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:27.920 Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny McCrae, and Newey scrugs. 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:35.040 All right, everybody, It's Friday, and the Dallas Cowboys have 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.040 made their selection. They have a new member on defense. 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:41.839 Barry Church and I have been preaching defense, defense, defense, 0:00:41.880 --> 0:00:43.640 and they went that way. We did not get the 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:47.159 player that we thought the Cowboys would get, So welcome in. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.599 We've got it. We've got a lot to chat about here. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:52.680 We appreciate you joining us players not Bay to Buy 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:55.080 Hotels dot Com. I'm new We scrugs, longtime Cowboys reported 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.760 joined by former Cowboys safety Barry Church. Our guy Danny 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.279 McCray is still out on assignment. So Michael Parsons is 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:05.120 the pick. The Cowboys had the tenth pick in the draft. 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:10.240 We watched, I should say I watched in horror. Berry A, 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:14.840 Carolina went J C. Hornet eight and I was like, yeah, 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.640 this is good. Okay, this is good because I'm like Denver. 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:22.119 Denver at nine will trade the pick somebody's gonna want 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:25.720 the quarterback right justin field is available, they Chicago can 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:28.200 come up here, so there'll be a quarterback at nine. 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:32.040 At Certan is at ten. And my my dream went 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:38.240 downhill in flames when I saw Rocles take Patrick Certan 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:41.760 the Cowboys at ten, then trade down to twelve the 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.680 Philadelphia they pick up a third. They take Michael Parsons, 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:50.120 outstanding linebacker from Penn State. So what was your feeling 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:54.280 watching all this? I was similar to Younuis, I'm not 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.200 gonna lie. I mean, I was feeling great. You know. 0:01:57.240 --> 0:02:00.000 After I saw the Kyle Pitts go to number four 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.240 to Atlanta, I'm like, all right, well that that's that's 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.320 out the way. I mean, I'm like, that's out the way. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.920 We ain't got to worry about no seculations and weird business. 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.080 We good, were straight, you know, then we got you know, 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:12.680 then Jamar Chase went off the board. I'm like, all right, 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.000 we're still good. And then like you said, Carolina rolled 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.120 around and they picked JC Horn. I'm like, all right, 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:18.560 you know, that was a solid pick. So that that 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.840 just leaves us, you know, being being in the business 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.519 for certain because I did not see Denver going after 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.040 a corner, going after certain anything like that. I didn't 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.280 see that coming. And boom, just like you said, it 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.839 was just like I was out to dinner, matter of fact, 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:35.120 and I'm just watching it on my phone and I'm like, 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:37.040 all right, well we'll pick sur Tan. We got him 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.680 on lock now, I mean, it's a rat. And then boom, 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:44.639 I saw that pick go by. I'm like, oh no, oh, no, 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.680 babies say it ain't. So they took him. They took 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:51.399 both of what I thought were our top two defensive 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.119 blue chip prospects right under our feet. Carolina got one, 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:58.160 Denver got the other. And you know, I was in shocked. 0:02:58.240 --> 0:02:59.600 I was in shocked for a hot second, and I 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:02.440 started racking my brain thinking, all right, what type of 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.280 what type of US scenarios can we do here? Can 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:06.519 we trade back? Or do we do we stay at 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.160 ten and just pick our trade down trade? And then 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:10.679 I saw I saw the trade back, and I'm like, 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.560 all right, they traded back, all right, so who are 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.640 they gonna grab? Who are they gonna grab with this pick? 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:17.720 And when it came across that it was Michael Parsons. 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.600 I thought to myself, immedia, like all right, well, at least, 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.200 at the very least, they addressed the defensive side of 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.519 the ball. Like they didn't trade back and grab the 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.280 offensive lineman or anything like that. They addressed the defensive 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:31.359 side of the ball. It's not the level that I wanted. 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.400 You know, I wanted helping the secondary because I didn't 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:35.960 see any blue chip defensive line prospects, so I wanted 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.560 helping the secondary above all. But when they took both 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.040 of those prospects, and we talked about this on the 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:43.520 players lounge a couple of weeks ago, you know, what 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.839 would happen if they took the if both of our 0:03:45.880 --> 0:03:48.520 prospects were gone, and we both decided, hey, let's trade 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.320 back and see what we can do for their add 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:53.000 some depth. But when they got Michael Parsons, you know, 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.640 I said, Okay, they addressed the defense. And here's a 0:03:55.680 --> 0:03:58.520 guy who's explosive. I'm talking about explosive. We saw the 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.080 forty times four to three nine at at two forty five. 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:05.440 This is an explosive linebacker, sideline to sideline. Last time 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:06.960 we saw him on the field, I think it was 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:09.440 in a Capital One Bowl. He had like seventeen tackles. 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.240 He was all over the field. He's a Buckets Award winner, 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.240 and so I'm thinking, all right, this guy can be 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:17.280 a plugin play not sure where it because if personally 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.560 I would play him at the will linebacker, I wouldn't 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.280 put him in the middle. There's a lot of banging 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.440 in there. I want to see his speed on the outside, 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:26.239 maybe rushing a little big, you know, covering some running 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.360 backs here and there. So I thought to myself, all right, 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.680 this is a sideline and sideline guy. He can help 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.640 our defense, but what does that mean for the rest 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:36.240 of the lineback and crew. And I was and I'm 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.280 racking my brain, like, you know, where do we put 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:40.560 these guys? Because we had Keyan, We got Keyan O'Neil 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:44.560 in that hybrid linebacker type role, and I think, and 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.800 that's exactly what Michael Parsons is gonna be. I mean, 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.280 he's the same type of build, even faster than the 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.960 Keyan O'Neil who's coming off an Achilles. So you know, 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:53.839 what do we do with Neil in this situation? What 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:55.279 do we do with the Jaylen Smith? What do we 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.760 do with lv? So all this was racking through my brain, 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.039 but overall, I think it was a solid pick. Um, 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:03.920 and it gave us an opportunity to add another pick 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:05.599 in the third round when we traded back, so we 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.640 can get more depth pieces for this defense. So overall, 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.000 it wasn't who I wanted to wanted it to be. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.640 I wanted it to be certain or Horn at that 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.599 cornerback position. But I think it's a solid pick and 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:21.800 this guy can help our defense this year. It's interesting 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.799 how this thing works out because over at the TV station, 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.120 I'm where I work at it. Anybe she five here 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:31.800 doubts for worth thing? It's about me. Hey, can you 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.599 send this a quick write up on what you think 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:38.039 the Cowboys can do? And I said sure, So I 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.120 do this ride up talking about Patrick's r Tan and 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.240 how I liked him. Then I said, you know, jac 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.360 Horne could be there as well, and that I was 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.000 told by someone on the inside, and hey, look um, 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.040 they'd be happy with either guys guys to be there. 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.080 And then for just some strange reason, I said, let 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.920 me add a third person and I put Michael Parsons 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:04.400 down there. No, here's another guy to look for. So, um, 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:06.600 when I think about it, and you try to sit 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:08.760 up here for Cowboy fans who had their hard set 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:12.640 on a corner like Barry, and I miss that next 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:17.320 best defensive player there. A couple things surprised me, Barry, 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.599 because I went out to the press conference earlier in 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.040 the week where Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones, and Mike McCartney 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:27.520 met the media and they spoke about and I asked 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.240 the question if guys didn't play, if they set out 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:34.000 because of COVID nineteen, do you have an issue with that? 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:38.719 And Jerry said, quote, I think they're compromised. Yeah, I 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.279 think they're compromised. And then he said, yeah, you missed 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.120 out on a whole year football. Then he asked, coach 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.720 McCarthy's all right, so you know how many plays are 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:48.440 they missing? Me? He said they're missing about seven under plays. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:52.119 So I thought immediately, hey, man, look guys like Piney Soul, 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:57.279 Rashawn Slater, Caleb Farley, Micah, these guys are probably not 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.720 going to make it to the Cowboys because Jerry is 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:02.440 going to be like no. So the next day, I, 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:04.840 you know, tried to be smart, made a phone call 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:08.680 to a contact and said, hey, um, are you guys 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:12.360 going to penalyize people if they are not playing? He said, no, 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.040 contact if no no, not at all. And I asked, 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:20.400 do you hate Michael Parton? I that okay, you were 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.000 out there and asked it up? I did, I asked, 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.520 I asked my contact. I said, d hate him? He 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:30.760 said no. I said, okay, okay, so Jerry so so 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:35.240 they make the trade and I and this is my opinion. Okay, folks, 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.400 all right, Dallas, goot boy name, this is my opinion. UM, 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.440 the two fits I thought at ten it would be 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:44.120 best would be Patrick Sutan jac Horn. They make that 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.360 trade down, they picked up the three from Philadelphia. You 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.120 go get Michael Parsons. You know, he didn't play last year, 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.280 but when he did play, guy was pretty damn good. Okay, 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:56.000 I think I got to give him that UM defensive 0:07:56.120 --> 0:08:00.960 MVP at at the Cotton Bowl against UM Memphis. Dame 0:08:01.040 --> 0:08:04.360 Brugler I respect us analysis. Dane Brugler is also part 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.880 of the Dallas Cowboys podcast netwhere Dagan writes the Penn 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.320 State linebacker found two seasons in college and led the 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.680 team and tackles both ears. What does this mean for 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:15.800 Jalen Smith and Layton Vanderesh and Dallas. UM, here's what 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.920 right now? You good football players? As your kame So 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:27.480 if your linebacker room is Jalen Smith, Layton Banderesh, Micah Parsons, 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:33.960 and Keyan O'Neill, Okay, I'm good with that. I'm good. 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:36.120 I don't know about you, but I'm good with that. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.840 That is an upgrade. And what have we talked about 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:42.120 before here on this show, Barry, Hey, who's gonna cover 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.120 some of these tight ends and linebackers and just looking 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.040 the way the league goes. I ain't gonna call him 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:50.280 Devin White. Okay, I'm not gonna call buccaneers. I'm not. 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.559 But when you think about what Devin White did in 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:57.400 your hope of hopes, if you're going on to the hey, 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.360 let's look at the positives. What Michael Parsons could be 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:06.960 your Devin wife. Wouldn't you sign up for that? I would? 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.439 I mean, look what Luquid Lavante David did in the 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.400 Super Bowl against Kelsey. I mean, this is another covered 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.000 cover style linebacker that they had. And I'm not gonna 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:20.079 say he shut out Kelsey, but he definitely limited Kelsey's 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:21.800 role in that Super Bowl and that and I think 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:25.200 that that paid huge dividends for that defense overall. So 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.280 for me, I'm thinking, I'm thinking look, man, look, I 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:31.240 love I love with the pick with the Michael Parsons 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:33.680 pick because I think he can be that cover linebacker. 0:09:33.679 --> 0:09:35.839 And what also I loved about that pick is this 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:37.640 isn't not to my knowledge, but this is a guy 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:39.880 that hasn't been injury prone. I mean, we look at 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:41.760 look at our defense. What we have on our roster 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.280 right now. Half of our starters on defense have been 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.720 through some type of injuries, have had multiple surgeries, have 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.559 missed multiple games. So this is a guy coming in fresh, 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:52.480 no surgeries, no injuries that I know of, and look, 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.440 it has to be a positive for this defense. And 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.640 like you mentioned with that that White situation, our linebackers 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:00.559 in the past have been liabilities and average. I mean, 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.640 we've seen what j. D. McKissick was able to do 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.640 in Washington. We've seen some of these tight ends be 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:06.960 able to rote up our guys and running backs wrote 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.360 up our guys on third and medium. To have a 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:13.640 guy with an explosivenificant explosiveness and the coverage ability of 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:16.360 a Parsons added to this linebacker crew can only be 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.439 a positive for this team. And like I said, he's 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.160 not an injury prone so we don't have to worry 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.040 about him missing massive amount of time, and I just 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.439 think it's a positive overall. He didn't get that certain 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.840 like we say, didn't get that certain or horn, but 0:10:28.360 --> 0:10:30.120 I think it was the next best option. Plus we 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.600 picked up a third, so I'm overall, I'm happy so 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:36.160 far with the draft. Dave Hellman, who also is a 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:38.960 part of our Dallas Cowboys podcast family, he does great work. 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:42.720 He broke down Parsons and talked about the six and 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:44.679 a half sacks that the guy got. So if you've 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:47.960 got a linebacker who can find his way to the quarterback, 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:51.000 Cowboy fans, I don't think I agree with David that 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:52.960 you should not be sniffing your nose out and thinking 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.520 that this is this is a problem, and this is bad. 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.760 The Cowboys added a piece that if you ask yourself 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.559 five years from now, you're hoping that this player is 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.240 a good player and he's here doing some things for 0:11:05.280 --> 0:11:07.640 a while. A lot of us did not know about 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:10.040 DeMarcus Ware coming out of Troy when they took him 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.480 at number eleven. Once again, I call it in DeMarcus Ware, 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.880 but I'm just saying we're talking about a player who 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:20.480 comes into the NFL who had a better resume than 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.959 DeMarcus Ware And where's a Hall of Fame player in 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:29.000 my opinion? And I'm not gonna call Parsons, you know, 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:30.719 the next great thing, but I'm just saying, if you're 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:33.560 looking for the hope side, because Barry, I feel like 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.040 there was so much negativity that I was reading on 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.560 social media for Cowboy fans. I'm trying to find a 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.839 way today to say, hey, look look at some things 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.440 that he can do. Bill Walsh was always big on 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.480 don't tell me what a player can't do, Tell me 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.760 what he can do from my forty nine ers, And 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.400 that's what I'm trying to sit up here talk about today. 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:52.360 For some of the things about Michael Parsons, what can 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.400 he do? You've seen his speed. I watched the Pro 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.199 Day on NFL Network at Penn Stay and James Franklin 0:11:58.280 --> 0:11:59.920 was raving about him in the fast I wasn't like 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.480 four three nine, some crazy things lay at four three nine. 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:06.040 He was rolling. Okay, So so right now we're talking 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:08.760 about a fast linebacker, a guy who can find his 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:12.719 way to sack the quarterback. Tell me what the negatives 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:16.400 are here, especially since your corners were gone. It's not 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.360 like you sat up here and said, hey man, we're 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:22.600 gonna take Parsons over the corners. You didn't. This was 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:26.000 your next best choice. Now I'm gonna sit up here 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.199 and say this, Barry. When I saw what the Giants 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:35.199 got from Chicago, I'm like, wow, huh because the Bear 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.400 and if we talked about it before, the Bears would 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.280 be willing to give up a one to move up 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:41.440 and get a quarterback. And sure enough they did. So 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.439 the Giants got a haul, and the Giants had to 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.880 go to twenty and maybe the Cowboys were not ready 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:49.199 to go to twenty. And actually the press conference, Jerry 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.599 Jones raved about how he had Michael Parsons. Is that 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:55.160 his number one defensive player on the board. I first 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:57.599 thought is, if he's your number one defensive player on 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.080 the board, why are you trading down to twelve. Whyn't 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:02.920 you take him to ten? But hey, nobody just hit now. 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.120 I'll say that, and I'll say this in Jerry's defense. 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.679 They traded down two spots when they took Roy Williams. 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:12.760 Eons to go back was at two thousand and three 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:15.400 when they took Boy, but they or two thousand and two, 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.320 but they trade it down two spots and picked up 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.559 a third from Kansas City to get him. So he 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:22.439 does have precedent in doing that. He does have precedent 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:25.200 in doing that. And I guess he was pretty sure 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:29.640 that nobody was going to take Michael Parsons at eleven, 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:31.680 so they could go ahead and get to twelve, and 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.480 maybe Chicago called them, and they just didn't want to 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:37.240 fall all the way to twenty to do it because 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.000 he years of my thought, if you go to twenty, 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:41.599 you could take Christian Barmore, the defensive tackle out of Alabama, 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:45.679 but they took Parsons. They like Parsons. There's a need 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.880 for Parsons for everybody out there that's unhappy with Jalen Smith, 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:51.400 and you see it all social media. Bunch of people 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:55.640 like Cutchings everybody, and for the people who are like 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.839 Lake Vanderish. I like him, but he's always hurt. And oh, 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:02.520 by the way, it is Monday. They have a deadline. Okay, 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.320 the Cowboys on Monday have to tell Laton Vanderess if 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.160 they're gonna pick up his option for twenty twenty two 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.160 of nine point one million dollars. And Stephen Jones was 0:14:11.200 --> 0:14:13.960 asked about it earlier this week, and he said, yeah, 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:17.640 we hadn't got to that yet. So that's another interesting 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:22.080 that's an interesting wait wait wait wait, wait wait wait, 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:24.560 he said, he asked them about the fifth year option 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.880 and it's it's due Monday, right, Monday is the deadline 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:28.760 of where you got to tell somebody or not if 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.080 they're gonna be, you know, here for their fifth year option. 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:35.800 And he said, we haven't got to that yet a 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.840 couple of days away. Man, Okay, And I'll say this. 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.160 I'll say this. They didn't have the draft yet. You 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:47.800 didn't know what you were gonna have. So why, you know, 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.240 why make a decision, Why come out and make and 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.640 say we're gonna do this or that. You don't have 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:57.320 to yet. Let's see what your team is. Um if 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:01.520 they're still having cap issues, they may decide, you know, 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:05.280 we're not gonna do this. Garrett Bolts was under that 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.280 same scenario with Denver where they didn't pick up his 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.120 fifth year option. He came out and the balled last 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:11.200 year and they gave him a new contract. So you know, 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.520 it doesn't if you if you say to the player, 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:15.400 we're not gonna pick up the fiftyear option, that doesn't 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.040 mean that you can't therefore go and do another contract 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.760 with the player. So they basically say, too late, banderash, 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.960 you know what, prove it, you know, give us a 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:26.760 prove it year this year, and then you know, maybe 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.360 we certain they've got that opportunity, or they could throw 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:33.240 the franchise second. I mean there's options, there's definitely options. 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:36.320 There's definitely Let me ask you this new let me 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.960 ask you this real quick. For as far as the 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.120 Draverton get back to the draft, do you think the 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:45.040 Cowboys made the best valued pick and getting Michael Parsons there? 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:46.720 I mean they because they could have got the tackle 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.240 from Northwestern I believe his name is for Shaun Slater. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.400 I believe his name was. They could have gotten him 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:53.720 if they stayed at ten. Do you think, out of 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.800 those two those two scenarios, if they made the best 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.760 overall value pick by getting Michael Parsons at well rather 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.880 than sticking with Rashawn Slater at that tackle who could 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:05.320 have been a guard or he could have been a 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.680 swing tackle, anything like that, do you think they made 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:11.120 the right choice? Do? Okay, Um, I'm glad you asked this. 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:16.840 I think this is a very very good question. We 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.400 all love Zach Martin and what he is as a 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:23.240 football player. He's building a Hall of Fame resume coming 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.600 out Inn Order Dame. He was a left tackle. He 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.720 was so good he was the Bowl Game MVP of 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:33.960 the Yankee Bowl at the tackle position. Tackle position, all right, 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.720 that tells you how dominant he was. The Cowboys drafted 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.480 him and immediately put him at guard. The reason why 0:16:41.120 --> 0:16:44.680 the arm length didn't have long arms. He didn't they 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:46.800 you know, and if the Cowboys felt he didn't have 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:49.240 the kind of arms that they want for a tackle, 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:54.840 so he went inside. Rashawn Slater has short arms in 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.040 the Cowboys system. Okay, and make sure I say this 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:01.880 straight for people who in the Cowboys system. He's a 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:05.320 guard person. I talked to you said, this guy could 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.240 be an all pro guard. He has Zach Martin traits. 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.640 That's how much they liked Rashaan Slater and what they 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.840 thought of Rashaan Slater, but they were not going to 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:19.520 draft a guard at twelve. Versus, we need some help 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:25.000 on defense. Here's a dynamic defensive player in our opinion, 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:30.280 who can help us. Let us go back to what 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:33.119 Dan Quinn had in Seattle, which helped him land the 0:17:33.119 --> 0:17:36.720 Atlanta Falcons job. Bobby Wagoner, you had kJ Wright, you 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.560 had really good linebacker play, and you had dudes who 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:44.680 could get across the football field. We keep talking about 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:48.560 trying to give dan Quinn players. Did you give him 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.320 a player? I feel like you gave him Michael Parsons. 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:53.679 You gave him a player. You gave him a fast 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:58.040 guy in this league where you need fast people. You 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.159 gave him a guy who when you look at the 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:04.240 tape of what we've seen, the guy was producing. Will 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.399 he be a walk in starter? He hasn't played in 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:09.560 two years. I don't think he will. But can't he 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.960 help your football team? Yeah? If Jalen Smith does not 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:14.720 get back to being the player you wanted to be, 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.440 then maybe he's that guy on third downs. If Lake 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:19.879 vander Ess just hurt, then maybe he's that guy that's playing. 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:24.040 But you have two question marks at your two starting linebackers. 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.639 You needed help on all three levels. We said we 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.280 need to help on all three levels. But going back 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.240 to your original point about Slater, Slater's a guard for 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:35.760 the Cowboys. He's a guard and he'll be a tackle 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:38.199 out there for the Chargers. And that's great for them, 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.640 that's what they want. But with the way the Cowboys 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.320 play their guys and the way they run their system 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.879 for the offensive line, he was a guard, and I 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.480 just don't think he'd take a guard at twelve, So 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.000 good question. I did. A lot of people talked about 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:54.760 putting Slater there, but I just knowing the Cowboys the 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.120 way they operate, I'm like, NA, you don't. He's a guard. 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:59.879 You didn't need to do that for a guard. You're right, 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:02.320 that's a little high for like you said, the guard. 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:05.159 And he played tackle his whole his whole career, and 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:06.840 he's moving him in the guard. Who knows what he 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:10.240 would project ass and with Michael Parsons, With Michael Parsons 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:12.040 out there, I mean, we know what he can do. 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.320 We know what he can do. He's sideline the sideline, 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:17.560 he's explosive, he can cover, and that's what we've been needing. 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:19.280 That's what we've been needing on the defensive side of 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.840 the ball. It's not the secondary pick. It's not that 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:24.800 blue chip prospect I wanted to get, like in certain 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.040 and Horse or Horn. But this guy, I mean, he 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.280 can fly, he can fly all around, and what we've 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:33.840 been missing since probably twenty eighteen when an LV and 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.439 Jalen Smith were rolling and they were, you know, probably 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.760 the best tandem of linebackers in the league at that point. 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:41.720 If we've been missing that sideline, the sideline guy, the 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.160 guy that can can make everybody right, no matter if 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.640 the defensive lineman hits the wrong gap or who gets 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:49.440 pushed out of his gap. We need somebody with explosiveness 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:52.320 that can make everybody around them better and everybody around 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.240 them right. And I'm not I'm not sure this is 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:56.200 the right I'm not sure Michael Parsons can do that, 0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:58.960 but I think he gives the Cowboys the best opportunity 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.280 to have that sideline, a sideline guy who can cover 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:04.000 as well and not get exposed on those third and mediums, 0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:06.320 because that's what killed us as a defense last year. 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.600 We did. It's not like you know, we were giving 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.560