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Speaker 1: Monica Page at the White House today. We were talking

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, guys, Thank you now for more shocking information.

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Speaker 1: The defund the police movement was ubiquitous around the country,

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Speaker 1: talk about some of these just unbelievable statistics that everyone

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Speaker 1: saw coming Bobby. The report says this, the arrests and

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing. I probably could have

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Speaker 2: If you don't care about results and you don't care

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you bring up a good point. When they do

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you make you make a really great point

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Speaker 5: The problem is is that, like.

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Speaker 4: Bobby mentioned, a lot of these neighborhoods that have high murder,

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Speaker 4: Really ridiculous to me that these types of agendas just

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Speaker 4: means more crime at the end of the day. That's

435
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Speaker 4: just the simple fact of it. And like you said,

436
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Speaker 4: everybody and their mother did say this, But you know,

437
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Speaker 4: it's just it's a fallacy of not being able to

438
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Speaker 4: actually think through the conclusions of what you're trying to

439
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Speaker 4: do and get done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of the libtoids that would believe in that

441
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Speaker 1: sort of thing, Doctor Jill Biden has a new job.

442
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Speaker 1: She's going to be leading the California based think tank,

443
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Speaker 1: the Milken Group based in Santa Monica, in the initiative

444
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Speaker 1: aimed at improving women's health. Now Priya, as a doctor,

445
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Speaker 1: I would hope that doctor Jill Biden would have a

446
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Speaker 1: lot of say in the women's health Do you think

447
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Speaker 1: she'll make a huge impact here.

448
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Speaker 4: You know, with her doctorate that she has as a teacher,

449
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Speaker 4: you know, I think she's gonna make a large, large

450
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Speaker 4: impact the medical community, you know. I mean, at the

451
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 4: end of the day, it's just really ridiculous that for

452
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Speaker 4: so long this was such a contentious topic on whether

453
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Speaker 4: to call her missus Biden or doctor Biden. It's just ridiculous.

454
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Speaker 4: You are not a physician, you are not a licensed physician.

455
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Speaker 4: You do not earn that title, and for it to

456
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Speaker 4: be such a such a passionate issue on her part

457
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Speaker 4: is just ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: I the initiative is a great idea, you know, improving

460
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Speaker 4: studies within a woman's health. But I really don't see

461
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Speaker 4: how doctor Jill specifically is going to make any any

462
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Speaker 4: large headway in this issue.

463
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Speaker 1: She's a doctor, Whoopi Goldberg wanted her to be the

464
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Speaker 1: surgeon general. How could she not? Bobby Not not to

465
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Speaker 1: take this too much more seriously. But here here's what

466
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Speaker 1: I see about this. First of all, why would you

467
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Speaker 1: not just retire? To me, this is kind of justification

468
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Speaker 1: or verification that Jill was the one the White House

469
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Speaker 1: pulling the string saying run, Joe, just keep running. I

470
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Speaker 1: want to stay in it. This seems to me if

471
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Speaker 1: her wanting to stay in it, and it's kind of

472
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Speaker 1: proof of that. And I don't know, does that justify

473
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Speaker 1: it in your mind that she was the one pull

474
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Speaker 1: in the strings trying to keep the decrepit old president

475
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Speaker 1: house plant in the running.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that is obviously true. I think that

477
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Speaker 2: we all saw and witnessed that, so that is a certainty.

478
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Speaker 2: But it's actually interesting how I see this, because I

479
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 2: believe that it's actually like a symbiotic relationship, whereas this

480
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 2: institute gets pressed and gets attention and gets notoriety and

481
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Speaker 2: ultimately will attract donors as a result of her name recognition,

482
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Speaker 2: and it also allows her to basically play as if

483
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Speaker 2: she is significant or actually matters. And it's yet another

484
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Speaker 2: perfect example of caring about how something looks, not caring

485
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Speaker 2: about what actually happens.

486
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Speaker 3: I would guarantee you that there's a.

487
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Speaker 2: Prominent woman that is highly intelligent in these fields of

488
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Speaker 2: health that could do something that would be really impactful

489
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Speaker 2: and important, but it might not garner as many headlines.

490
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Speaker 2: So instead of taking the person that could actually do

491
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Speaker 2: something that could draw attention to the institute as a

492
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Speaker 2: result of the positive output of what they're creating, they

493
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Speaker 2: would rather just give. They would rather just bring a

494
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Speaker 2: person in that is going to be purely a headline,

495
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Speaker 2: that is purely going to be a show person. And

496
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Speaker 2: for doctor Jill, she absolutely loves it because she wants

497
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Speaker 2: to be relevant. She wants to be on the cover

498
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Speaker 2: of Vogue, she wants to be on the cover of

499
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Speaker 2: Vanity Fair. She loves that attention, and anything that could

500
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Speaker 2: continue to bring her into the spotlight she's gonna obviously take.

501
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Speaker 2: So they're both kind of like grifting off of each other,

502
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Speaker 2: and the person that loses is the person that would

503
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Speaker 2: benefit as a result of this institute doing something that

504
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 2: really is significant to health. She's not going to contribute

505
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Speaker 2: anything of any value. She's only going to get headlines.

506
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Speaker 2: And a lot of those headlines are going to be consumed, recirculated,

507
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Speaker 2: and regurgitated by us people that think it's hilarious, but

508
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Speaker 2: they don't care. All they want is eyeballs. All they

509
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Speaker 2: believe is that what matters is the optics, not what

510
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Speaker 2: actually comes through. And there's probably another health professional boss

511
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: female that could produce a lot wouldn't get the headlines

512
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Speaker 2: that would ultimately be more beneficial to their cause, but

513
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Speaker 2: they completely overlooked it for doctor Jilly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they looked at doctor Joe Biden and said, see,

515
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Speaker 1: say Puadway, you can totally do whatever it is that

516
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Speaker 1: this is requiring prey. But tell Bobby Sauce, thank you

517
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Speaker 1: guys so much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking

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Speaker 1: the time.

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Speaker 3: My pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Thank you you coming up a fascinating Cliff and Ox

521
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Speaker 1: Clark's Culture Apothecary podcast. Don't go ahead, we'll be right

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Speaker 1: back after this.

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Speaker 7: You brought up testosterone. We need to have a come

524
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Speaker 7: to Jesus talk with the men. Yeah, we're seeing a

525
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Speaker 7: terrifying testosterone crisis, right, So what is happening and what

526
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Speaker 7: will it mean for civilization if we do not fix this?

527
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Speaker 8: When we look at the statistics of how far men's

528
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Speaker 8: testosterone levels have plummeted over the last fifty d plus years,

529
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Speaker 8: it's absolutely staggering. It's around thirty five percent that would

530
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Speaker 8: be a man in their twenties today has an average

531
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Speaker 8: testosterone of a man did in their seventies back fifty

532
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Speaker 8: plus years ago.

533
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Speaker 5: So, then is the fertility crisis that we're seeing.

534
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Speaker 7: Is it equal blame between men and women of stuff

535
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 7: that's going on with us, or is there.

536
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 5: A lot on the men Here?

537
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 8: Statistically it's still skews towards the women, but men, more

538
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 8: now than ever before, are also are contributing, There's no

539
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 8: doubt about it.

540
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Speaker 5: And why are we seeing these testosterone levels drop like this?

541
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Speaker 8: Well, I think there's a combination of dietary toxicity and

542
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 8: cultural and so here's what I mean. So when you

543
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 8: look at chemicals like roundup in glychosate, those definitely decrease

544
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 8: testosterone levels. When you look at stalates, these are found

545
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 8: in everything from the receipts we buy at stores. Those

546
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 8: have chemicals that decrease testosterone. Plastics, microplastics increase estrogen, decreased testosterone.

547
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 8: The food we're eating, like vegan diets, those decreased testosterone.

548
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 8: So a lot of our the foods we're not getting

549
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 8: the nutrients were not getting from red meat and organ

550
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 8: meats and nuts and seeds, some of those those are

551
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 8: a lot of the testosterrum boosting foods.

552
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Speaker 7: Is ultra processed food contributing to the testosterone crisis, Like

553
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 7: guys that are going to wednies every day, from.

554
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 8: Life absolutely, seed oils, process foods, all of these again

555
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 8: boost estrogen, decreased testosterone.

556
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Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. The fast food is

557
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 5: feminizing the men.

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Speaker 7: So for the women that are like I just don't

559
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Speaker 7: know what to do, Alex, I'm so on board with

560
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Speaker 7: all of this, but my husband, like, I can't convince him.

561
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Speaker 5: I don't know what to say to convince him.

562
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Speaker 7: I feel like saying, what you're door dashing every day,

563
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 7: where you're going on lunch at work, it is making

564
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Speaker 7: you more womanly.

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Speaker 3: It's it's destroying testosterone. Men.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, all the altar processed food is destroying tesosterone and men.

567
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Speaker 8: And what men can do is just pick a different

568
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Speaker 8: restaurant to DoorDash from, buy from Kava, or a faux restaurant,

569
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Speaker 8: buy you know, whole Food's market, true food kitchen. I mean,

570
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Speaker 8: there are other options out there where you can buy

571
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Speaker 8: organic meat and even whole grain bread. You have your

572
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 8: wife makes sour dough for you. And second there's some

573
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 8: you know, sliced turkey meat. But let me say a

574
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Speaker 8: few other things about testosterone, Yes, that people need to

575
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Speaker 8: know about. It's not just the men that have a

576
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Speaker 8: low testosterone.

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00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 5: Women.

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Speaker 3: A lot of women now have very.

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Speaker 8: Low testosterone as well, and it's because the microplastics, the

580
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 8: processed food. The other thing is it's the feminization of society. Now,

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Speaker 8: I know this might be a little bit controversial for

582
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 8: my audience, but yeah, you're right exactly, not for your audience.

583
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 8: We have glorified it's not even true feminism, but feminism today.

584
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 8: But it's more the feminization of men. So it's like

585
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Speaker 8: we're trying to make.

586
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 5: Like victimhood almonds, women more.

587
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 8: Like men and men more like women. And there's a

588
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Speaker 8: study I came across on one of the number one

589
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 8: things you could do to build testosterone, and you know

590
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 8: what it was men going out and chopping would love.

591
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Speaker 7: Yes, let's set up a camera and you know what,

592
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 7: and we can judge it.

593
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 8: Was actually more effective than playing sports like soccer and

594
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 8: basketball and other athletic events. Going out and chopping in

595
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 8: the backyard for men, And I think there's a combination

596
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 8: of it's a full body activity, but also it makes

597
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 8: you feel like a man. I can tell you when

598
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 8: my dad brought me out in my yard when I

599
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 8: was a kid and he taught me how to chot

600
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 8: fire what it was probably the most outside of shooting

601
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 8: a bone arrow, Those are like the most manly things

602
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 8: I remember my dad ever teaching me to do. So

603
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 8: I think men have lost the art of being men.

604
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 8: A lot of men today, when your testosterone goes down,

605
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 8: you don't feel motivated, you don't pursue your wife as much,

606
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 8: you're not attracted, you're not as attractive yourself. All of

607
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 8: those things start to happen. But there's a lot of

608
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 8: men today that are demotivated. They're not as ambitious as

609
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Speaker 8: they ambitious as they used to be. And I think

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Speaker 8: a lot of women see that and they're like, what's

611
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Speaker 8: going on with my husband, what's going on with my

612
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 8: mate here? And their testosterone has crashed, and so a

613
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 8: few things they.

614
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Speaker 3: Can do it.

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Speaker 8: They need They need more certified organic grass fed red meat,

616
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Speaker 8: so they need more meat. Brazil Nuts are great, walnuts

617
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 8: are great, more healthy fasts from coconut herbs like gin

618
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 8: seing herbs like Ashwa, ganda, fenya, Greek cinnamon, and they

619
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 8: need to be working out and hanging out with other

620
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 8: masculine guys is maybe the single greatest thing they can do,

621
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Speaker 8: along with chopping wood to help get those testosterone levels up.

622
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 8: And for women, they need to do more of those

623
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Speaker 8: warming herbs that we talked about, cinnamon, ginger, fenya, Greek,

624
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 8: holy basil, ganda, the cordycepsies.

625
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: Are all good for women. And I think that when

626
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Speaker 3: women have.

627
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Speaker 8: Low testosterone also sometimes that's correlated with hypothyroidism as well.

628
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 7: Why is the American Heart Association in particular corrupt?

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Speaker 8: Oh goodness, I mean, this would be a whole tirade

630
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Speaker 8: I could get into, but I mean, it's a really

631
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 8: sad truth that most of these organizations basically embrace an

632
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 8: ideology from years ago and then they never change. And

633
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 8: here's the reason why Ego and pride. They don't want

634
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Speaker 8: to say they're wrong, and that is actually the number

635
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 8: one reason. So this is why most doctors in the

636
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 8: whole conventional medical system and the AMA and the American

637
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 8: Heart Association, all of them are that they're holding onto

638
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 8: the past. They don't want to change it. And again

639
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 8: it's a pride issue. Doctors, many of them have a

640
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 8: God complex. They don't want to be wrong, and so

641
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 8: they'll hold on to these old things that they've done

642
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 8: for years. And the medical system also does not support

643
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 8: very well due to the pharmaceutical interests doing things that

644
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 8: are non medical, and even things that are new, they're

645
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 8: very slow to adopt if it's not going to make

646
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 8: money for the industry. And so the reality is the

647
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 8: big issue is is that there are so much money

648
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 8: relying on these things and so much pride. It's money

649
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 8: and pride. Those are the biggest reasons.

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Speaker 7: I also think it's incredibly disturbing if you look at

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Speaker 7: the American Heart Association's website and you look at who

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Speaker 7: the biggest, you know, sponsors are. Whatever, Canola oil is

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Speaker 7: one of them, yes, and you know that's like this

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Speaker 7: whole thing they try to say, like they try to

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Speaker 7: say seed oils, vegetable oils, or heart healthy.

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Speaker 5: What is your response to that.

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Speaker 8: Well, one that this came from the just the most

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Speaker 8: flawed studies of all time, I mean like some like

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Speaker 8: one study in particular was back in the you know nineteen,

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Speaker 8: study was done on animals. It was done on rabbits

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Speaker 8: and they gave them red meat, and I thought it

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Speaker 8: increased their risk of heart disease. Well, one, rabbits are herbivores,

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Speaker 8: not omnivores. Even their systems are not meant to eat meat,

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Speaker 8: so that doesn't make any sense. And then also it's

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Speaker 8: conventional meat, so so people always throw the bag maybe

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Speaker 8: out at the battle with water. Let me share a

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Speaker 8: statistic that I found study. I recently on my podcast

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Speaker 8: did an episode on the percentages of studies that are

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Speaker 8: actually accurate. Fifty one point six percent of studies today

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Speaker 8: are inaccurate. So less than fifty percent.

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Speaker 5: How do you know what's true and what is it?

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Speaker 8: And here's why, here's why they found this in the study.

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Speaker 8: One is there was so much bias from the pharmaceutical

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Speaker 8: companies funding studies, but also cherry picking data the sample

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Speaker 8: studies of the sample size was too small of people.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't reproducible. You know how many studies there are

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Speaker 8: on red meat being bad for you a lot. You

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Speaker 8: know how many there are though on it being good

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Speaker 8: for you a lot too. Which one do you believe

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Speaker 8: that red meat is the most amazing healing food or

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Speaker 8: that it's going to kill you? Well one you need

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Speaker 8: to go and look at the find details. Was it

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Speaker 8: actually done on certified grass fed, organic regenitive meat. It's

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Speaker 8: a very big difference between that and the conventional GMO

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Speaker 8: fed you know cols today and their lifestyle, the way

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Speaker 8: they're slaughtered all of it. These are two very very

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Speaker 8: different things. And so the first thing we need to

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Speaker 8: know is so many of these studies are not true.

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Speaker 8: So just because you see it on Instagram or you

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Speaker 8: hear somebody quote it, it doesn't necessarily mean it's true.

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Speaker 8: So what we tend to want to do is look

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Speaker 8: at something called a meta analysis, which is where we

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Speaker 8: pull all the studies together on a topic, or at

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Speaker 8: least many studies together, and we look at at it

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Speaker 8: over a long period of time to discover the truth.

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Speaker 8: You want to do that, combined with a level of

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Speaker 8: wisdom and common sense about what maybe ancients practice or

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Speaker 8: what's been known for a long time, and make your

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Speaker 8: decisions based off of that information.

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Speaker 3: You know, here's another thing.

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Speaker 8: You might be like most of our listeners, they're not

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Speaker 8: going to go and read the meta analysis. Well, then

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Speaker 8: here's where I would say. There's a Bible verse I

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Speaker 8: Love and Jesus basically says, buy your fruit. You will

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Speaker 8: recognize them. Go and look at the people that are

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Speaker 8: physically healthy. Go and look at the doctors that are

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Speaker 8: helping people get the best results without the side effects.

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Speaker 8: Like if I'm going to listen to somebody in the

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Speaker 8: government about health, I'm listening to RFK Junior. Have you

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Speaker 8: seen the guy. The guy is ripped, he's healthy in

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Speaker 8: his seventies.

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Speaker 5: You're not gonna listen to the man dressed like a woman.

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Speaker 8: My point exactly, you don't listen to that person or

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Speaker 8: you're gonna end up the same results with them. These

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Speaker 8: are principles if you want to be healthy, follow the

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Speaker 8: people and the groups that are actually healthy.

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Speaker 4: And.

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Speaker 9: run circles around us.

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Speaker 10: He said it best. At Turning Point USA, We're relentless.

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Speaker 1: Without further ado, it is time for Woke Wednesday. I

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Speaker 1: don't ever really get tired of watching that lady scream

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Speaker 1: it is sorry, sorry that they I don't. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to assume her gender. They're so confusing

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Speaker 1: with that. Woke Wednesday starts off like this. Do you

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Speaker 1: know people like this? I'm sure you probably do unless

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Speaker 1: you live in a same place. But I'm sure there's

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Speaker 1: people walking around with masks on in the year twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five, and their reasoning may shock you or or

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Speaker 1: it won't because it's ridiculous. Go ahead and play clip three.

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Speaker 1: Why tis not too?

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Speaker 8: I just like it.

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Speaker 2: I got used to it. I don't mind wearing it.

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Speaker 4: I guess I'm just used to it.

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Speaker 1: I guess I did have a dark fog was on?

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Speaker 2: You forgot?

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Speaker 3: Are you back?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: Why you wear your mouth cuts off?

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Speaker 1: What's your result process?

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Speaker 2: Come?

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Speaker 6: I just feel like I asked to wear I don't

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Speaker 6: know why.

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Speaker 3: I guess I want to wear it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess like my friends wear them, so I'm like,

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Speaker 6: if i'm I might as well as too. I feel

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Speaker 6: like I will take off my mask until everybody does.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean it's just there's a lot of anxieties,

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Speaker 2: but taking the mask off, you know, for the.

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Speaker 3: First time, so it's probably been so long.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a social anxiety at this point. It's

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Speaker 1: just you know, mental world being, and so I personally

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Speaker 1: still wouldn't want to take the risk anyway.

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Speaker 3: I don't trust anyone else.

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Speaker 1: I'm just doing it for min Even if the science

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Speaker 1: said it was like basically impossible, it still doesn't matter.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I'll be honest with you. I'm not even

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Speaker 1: sure if that was exactly twenty two twentive, but we

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Speaker 1: all know people out there that are still in the

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Speaker 1: year twenty twenty five putting their masks on. I do

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Speaker 1: have the definitive reasoning as to why those people are

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Speaker 1: wearing masks because they're British, meaning that they probably have

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Speaker 1: unfortunate teeth and therefore want to hide it from the world.

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Speaker 1: Either that or they're just ugly. That's the only reason.

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Speaker 1: I can see feasible why anybody would still be wearing

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Speaker 1: a mask in twenty twenty five. Again, I'm not actually

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Speaker 1: sure that that video is from super recently, but even then,

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Speaker 1: even if it was twenty twenty two or twenty three,

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Speaker 1: which it probably is, Holy cow, get over yourself. You're outside.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't catch it if you tried. Before we run

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Speaker 1: out of time, Let's play this clip too, really quick,

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Speaker 1: very very short, and it actually might change your mind. Hell,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that last part was, but that

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Speaker 1: first part was compelling. Consider my change. I was a

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Speaker 1: Mark Zuckerberg fanboy until that woman stomped on the ground

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Speaker 1: and thrust her arms to the side, screaming incoherently. Ah,

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Speaker 1: that's how you change hearts and minds. People. If you

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Speaker 1: don't know, you should get out there and try it.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, everyone should take to the

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Speaker 1: dislike are mentioned. That is what changed his hearts and minds.

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Speaker 1: Thanks guys so much for tuning again. We will be

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow, same time, same place. Charlie Kirk is gonna

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Speaker 11: God bless America.

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Speaker 10: Lots to talk about today. We're finally back in our studio.

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Speaker 10: We've been traveling all week San Diego. I was in

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Speaker 10: San Diego doing events there. We are also in Long

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Speaker 10: Beach as well. Lots to cover, and I've been just

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Speaker 10: chomping at the bit to be able to get in

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Speaker 10: on this Tom Tillis story. Andrew did a great job

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Speaker 10: filling in yesterday talking about Senator Tom Tillis from North

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Speaker 10: Carolina decided now to oppose Ed Martin as Washington DC

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Speaker 10: US attorney. So let's set the stage here and set

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Speaker 10: the table. So the DCUs attorney is arguably the most

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Speaker 10: important US attorney when it comes to politics, the president,

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Speaker 10: Anything that happens in the jurisdiction of Washington, d C.

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Speaker 10: Which is a lot of power broking and a lot

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Speaker 10: of activity, falls under the DC US attorney. Now, the

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Speaker 10: Washington DC US attorney in years past have been enemies

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Speaker 10: of the MAGA movement, have been out of control. The

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Speaker 10: DCUs attorney Matthew Graves, which we'll get back to in

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Speaker 10: a second was the architect of the out of control

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Speaker 10: January sixth behavior. So this is a big one. President

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Speaker 10: Trump put in on a temporary and a provisional basis.

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Speaker 10: Ed Martin, let me tell you about Ed Martin. Ed

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Speaker 10: Martin is the real deal.

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Speaker 1: Ed Martin.

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Speaker 10: It's part of the Phyllis Schlaffley coalition.

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Speaker 3: Ed Martin.

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Speaker 10: Literally ran the Phyllis Schlaffley Eagles for years from Missouri.

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Speaker 10: A lawyer and a truly committed patriot. Now I'll fully

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Speaker 10: acknowledge that President Trump picked someone that was very conservative,

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Speaker 10: very outspoken, not your normal kind of cut DCUs attorney type.

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Speaker 10: He's a threat to the uniparty in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 10: Because he is willing to push the boundaries of what

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Speaker 1: So Ed Martin in just.

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Speaker 10: His couple of weeks and just with a couple of

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Speaker 10: best performing US attorney that President Trump has put in.

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Speaker 10: Without a doubt. He's actually gotten stuff done. He has

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Speaker 10: or reorganized his office. He's fired bad attorneys in the

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Speaker 10: DC office. And that is a tough, difficult, very very

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Speaker 10: very overwhelming assignment. And Ed Martin has taken it with

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Speaker 10: his head down, punching, punching, punching. So President Trump, knowing

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Speaker 10: that Ed Martin has been restoring integrity, has decided now

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Speaker 10: to put Ed Martin as the permanent nominee for DCUs attorney.

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Speaker 10: Ed Martin is a bulldog and that is exactly what

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Speaker 10: we need, and that is what President Trump has earned.

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Speaker 10: President Trump was facing seven hundred years in federal prison.

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Speaker 10: He gets the dc US attorney that he wants. And

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Speaker 10: remember he did not get the US attorney that he wanted.

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Speaker 10: The Senate quietly without there was a vote, before there

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Speaker 10: was a vote, rejected President Donald Trump's Attorney General's nominee,

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Speaker 10: which of course was Matt Gates. So then we got

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Speaker 10: pambondy Okay, I like Pam, but that wasn't Donald Trump's

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Speaker 10: first choice. So now we go to the DCUs attorney.

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Speaker 10: And you would think after President Trump was facing nearly

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Speaker 10: a thousand years in federal prison, after President Trump has

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Speaker 10: been shot, was spied on Byron intel agencies, you would

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Speaker 10: think that it would be an easy box to check.

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Speaker 10: After he won a popular vote and an electoral vote landslide,

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Speaker 10: the first Republican in twenty years to win a popular

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Speaker 10: vote was George W. Bush in two thousand and four.

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Speaker 10: You would think that President Trump would get the benefit

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Speaker 10: of the doubt. And we are told that we control Congress,

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Speaker 10: we are told that we control the house in the Senate,

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Speaker 10: but do we really.

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 10: Then Tom Tillis, the US Senator from North Carolina who

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Speaker 10: is in cycle right now, comes out and does the

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Speaker 10: following let's play cut two twenty four.

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Speaker 12: He is I don't believe he's being advanced to the

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Speaker 12: markup and I'm met with mister Martin. He seems like

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Speaker 12: a good man. Most of my concerns related to January sixth,

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Speaker 12: and he built a compelling case on some of the

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Speaker 12: fifteen twelve prosecutions that were probably heat of the moment,

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Speaker 12: bad decisions. But where we probably have a difference is

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Speaker 12: I think anybody that breached the perimeter should have been

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Speaker 12: in prison for some period of time.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's thirty days.

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Speaker 3: Or three years is debatable.

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Speaker 12: But I have no tolerance for anybody who entered the

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Speaker 12: building on January the sixth, and that's probably where most

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Speaker 12: of the friction was.

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Speaker 3: So the difference wasn't that they.

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Speaker 12: Should be charged in my estimation, it's by how much

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Speaker 12: I've indicated to the White House.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't support his nomination. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 10: There is a lot of stuff wrong with that number one.

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Speaker 10: He is basically saying anyone who breached the perimeter, including

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Speaker 10: Siaka Massaqui, who went into the US Congress for ten

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Speaker 10: seconds to say a prayer and then left. He's talking

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Speaker 10: about non violent people that need to be thrown in jail.

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Speaker 10: He's talking about Grandma's that had US constitutions in there

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Speaker 10: perse holding it up. We're not even talking about the

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Speaker 10: violent folks. We're not talking about the people that smashed windows,

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Speaker 10: not amy the people that hit police officers. You could

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Speaker 10: get a trespassing fine. But Tom Tillis the reason he's

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Speaker 10: not voting for Ed Martin is the fact that he

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Speaker 10: wants to see prison time for people that quote breached

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Speaker 10: the perimeter, even though in certain circumstances police held open

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Speaker 10: the doors. Now, Tom Tillis and I actually agree on

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Speaker 10: one thing. We agree on something fundamental and it needs

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Speaker 10: to be repeated. I want to see the North Carolina

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Speaker 10: Senate seat remain Republican. It's in cycle. Former governor of

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Speaker 10: North Carolina and very popular Democrat Roy Cooper is thinking

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Speaker 10: about running for the North Carolina Senate seat, which would

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Speaker 10: be a very difficult task for anybody, including Tom Tillis,

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Speaker 10: to go up against. So I have agreement with Tom Tillis.

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Speaker 10: I don't want to lose that Senate seat be bad.

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Speaker 10: We want President Trump to be able to confirm his

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Speaker 10: nominees well. We want President Trump, if there is a

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Speaker 10: Supreme Court justice, to be able to fill it easier

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Speaker 10: than not. We do not want to give away Senate

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Speaker 10: seats to Democrats. It is never helpful to do kamikaze

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Speaker 10: missions because it makes you feel good. It is never

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Speaker 10: helpful to go on a suicide pact just to try

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Speaker 10: to teach somebody a lesson.

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