WEBVTT - The Dave Pasch Podcast - Carson Palmer and Drew Stanton 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.200 Welcome to another edition of the Dave Pash Podcast. For 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:10.840 the second time, we have multiple guests on the Dave 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:14.560 Pash Podcast. The first time we had Steve Levy and 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:18.439 Brian Greasy, two members of the ESPN Monday Night Football Proof. 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:23.360 This week we have two former Arizona Cardinal quarterbacks. They 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:27.080 were teammates on the twenty fifteen Cardinal team that went 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:31.000 to the NFC Championship. Carson Palmer, who was recently inducted 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.040 into the College Football Hall of Fame, and Drew Stanton, 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.160 who currently is a member of the Cardinals broadcast team 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.920 and has a Super Bowl ring being part of the 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:45.040 Tampa Bay Buccaneers run to the championship last year. We 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:48.840 get into a lot of stuff here on this podcast, 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.080 including some of the fund that they had back in 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:54.720 the day playing for Bruce Arians. They used to have 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.240 this game where they would throw a football into a 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:02.760 trash bin and the loser would have to wear some 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:07.560 crazy costume that was picked out by the winner. Carson 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.640 and Drew will talk about some of their most embarrassing 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.679 costumes and some of their favorite costumes from back in 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:20.640 the day. It was a full polyester merman outfit. That's right, Yeah, 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:27.200 and nipples were hanging out. Plus the dance that made 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:31.640 Drew Stanton famous, where did it come from? And what's 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:35.600 their reaction to what Drew did on the sideline that 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.080 the cameras happened to catch during a Cardinals win against 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:41.880 the Seattle Seahawks. There was no rehearsal. That was raw 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:46.160 emotion and like, those are my three moves, and they'll 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.440 they'll come out at various times. They just all happen 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:50.800 to come out at once, like something just got spit out, 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.480 like somebody threw up. Drew and Carson also talk about 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.960 the twenty twenty one Arizona Cardinals and whether they can 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.400 make a deep run in the playoffs, plus their thoughts 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.560 on Kyler Murray and where he is in year three 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.000 as the quarterback of the Arizona Cardinals. We are presented 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.480 by bet mgm, the official sports betting partner of the 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:14.760 Arizona Cardinals, and by Hila River Hotels and Casinos. Sign 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:18.160 up for bet mgm today using code cards one thousand 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:20.720 and get your first bet risk free up to one 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:24.080 thousand dollars. New customer offer paid in free bets. 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Carson, Obviously, yours was 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:11.160 more tangible being in the Ring of honor being the 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:15.440 quarterback of the NFC Championship game team. But Drew, you 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:20.320 played obviously a big role in several games on the field, 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:24.280 but also just your presence and your leadership and being 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.000 a big part what the Cardinals accomplished over a five 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.800 year span. When I decided to do this and I 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.800 reached out to Drew to get his take on whether 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:34.760 you'd be interested, he said, yeah, I think Carson will 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.680 be interested. I said, okay, I'll text him. You didn't respond, 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:40.840 and Drew said, don't worry about it. He'll get back 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.480 to It. Might take a while, but he's a little 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.320 off the grid, but he'll get back to you. So 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.720 I know you're in Idaho, Carson. What all you up 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:52.760 to these days? Well, I mean outside of chasing four 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:57.120 kids around and coaching two sports and just all the 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.800 kid load that comes. Just I have a bunch of stuff. 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.280 I got my hands and a number of different kind 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.400 of small things and whether it's brand representation for a 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:10.120 couple of different brands, real estate development, a couple of 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:14.720 different charity initiatives going, they're all things that I can 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:20.400 juggle with my everyday life. They're non you know, full 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.960 day commitments four days a week. Everything has a very 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.400 minimal commitment a day or two a week so that 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:31.120 I don't miss football practice and football games and you know, 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.920 horseback riding jumping that my daughter's doing. I got another 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.840 daughter playing basketball or their son playing basketball. So I've 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:42.000 got just enough going off the field, you know, away 0:04:42.040 --> 0:04:46.280 from being a dad and chasing kids around where I'm interested, 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.960 I'm intrigued, I'm challenged. They're not full time commitments like 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:53.440 broadcasting is and as you well know, the travel schedule 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.920 that that comes along with that. So it's it's just enough. 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.960 I've got just enough stuff going to keep me challenged, 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.400 to keep me interested, but also where I'm not missing 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.520 out on, you know, the things that I missed out 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.080 when I was playing in my kids' lives, like games 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.240 and practices and performances and all those little things that 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.960 come up with it. Or at two pm on a Wednesday, 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.120 when you're playing football or you have a full time job, 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.120 you can't be at. But now that I'm at this 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.240 stage of my life and in this stage of my career, 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:24.040 I'm able to go and pull out of whatever I've 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:26.720 got going and go and watch a performance at three o'clock, 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.080 or go and coach my son's football team and call 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.960 plays for the seventh graders at three o'clock. It's awesome. 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.080 And Drew is dipping his toe in the broadcast waters 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.120 of curious Drew, how much are you enjoying it? Is 0:05:38.120 --> 0:05:40.440 this something you really want to pursue and what else 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.360 are you up to these days? Yeah? I think it's 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:48.200 it's the same type of thing where you know, I'm 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.039 just trying to be strategic and what I put my 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.839 time and effort into. You know, football consumed our lives 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.080 for over a decade and we put everything we had 0:05:57.120 --> 0:05:59.600 into it, and there were sacrifices that had to be made. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.000 We're both fortunate to have amazing wives that were a 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.279 part of helping raise our kids. But now we want 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.800 to be in the forefront of that. So yeah, I 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.680 really enjoyed the broadcasting stuff. Again, it's been minimal from 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.400 the standpoint of doing games here and their pre game 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.520 mostly and just kind of interjecting what I see the 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.080 trends of the NFL. And I'm not that far removed, 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:23.799 so I know most defensive coordinators, I know players still 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:25.800 on all the rosters. I mean, that was my job 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:27.880 behind the scenes, is knowing the ins and outs and 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.440 the scattering reports. So it's been fun to see that. 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.720 It wasn't so fun after the Detroit Lions, boss, but 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:35.800 I got to talk to all of the people calling in. 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:39.960 But you know, I think you also see the passion 0:06:40.000 --> 0:06:41.920 of this fan base and Carson I got to witness 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.479 that firsthand of how passionate the Bird gang really is 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.839 and the Red Sea and the benefit of being able 0:06:47.839 --> 0:06:49.960 to call that your home field so to be a 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.120 part of it, to be around the game again, especially 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.400 this organization that I held such high regard, It's been 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.640 really fun. And I get to go to work every 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.800 other Tuesday, because that's my schedule to the Cardinal facility. 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.080 I'm there for one hour and I leave, and again 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:05.920 I get to go make sure I'm there for my 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.800 daughters pick up at twelve forty five or my son's 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:12.400 football practice. So all of those things, you know, are 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.800 taking precedent right now, and as I navigate these new 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.320 waters of retirement looking forward to what's in star. You 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.880 guys get to Arizona the same season when BA and 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.720 a staff get here. Were you guys friends at all 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:27.960 before then? Did you know in each other each other? 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.600 Did your pass cross at all prior to that? Because 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:33.440 based on what I remember, you guys were pretty close 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:36.360 when you guys were members of the Cardinals. Yeah, I 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.680 mean we knew of each other, but hadn't spent really 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.680 any any real time together. You know, we'd probably seen 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:45.560 each other at an event here there over the years, 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:48.160 because we were probably both in year six, seven, eight 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:53.280 nine of our careers when we got there, But really 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:57.040 we developed a friendship over a lot of bottles of wine, 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.400 you know, spending time watching a lot of film together 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.280 and just trying to figure out the new offense. And 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.640 Drew had such a great background in the offense that 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:09.600 was coming to Arizona because he was the year prior 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:12.000 he was in an indie with Bruce, so he had 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.560 already had that whole offense installed. So he was a 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:16.760 great sounding board for me who was coming in and 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.880 didn't know anything, and was able to really break some 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.280 stuff down and show me the ins and outced the 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:26.120 offense after he'd been through it with a rookie quarterback 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.560 and Andrew luck which there's no better way to have 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:32.120 an offense installed to you when you're a vet, when 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:34.760 there's a rookie in the room, and it really is 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.760 day one installed from the jump. So he was a 0:08:37.760 --> 0:08:40.080 great sounding board and that's kind of how our friendship 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:44.360 and our work relationship started. And then after that, of course, 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.319 the families got to know each other. We went on 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.440 multiple off season trips together and spent a lot of 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.520 time with each other's families. He's a lot older than me, 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:54.480 it's what he's forgetting to point out. But it was 0:08:54.520 --> 0:09:00.520 six seventy, so I yeah, I was a senior in 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.560 high school and went to the Lead eleven camp when 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:05.040 he was a senior in college as the count as 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.120 a counselor, and that was really where, you know, I 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.560 was one of many high school kids that were there, 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.719 but that's where I you know, started to see him 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:15.280 and all that and followed his career and the other 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:18.360 guys that were there, and actually knew his brother pretty 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.439 well because we came out together, so you know, I 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.840 knew of Carson, but yeah, it wasn't until it was 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:26.719 really training camp. You know, we got to know each 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:28.400 other and there was a work relationship. But one night 0:09:28.440 --> 0:09:30.480 we were walking back from the hotel room and the 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:32.400 door kind of opens and I look in and I 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.920 see this bottle of opus one sitting on his counter 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.480 and I was like, you like why and he was like, oh, 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:39.480 I love whine and I was like, oh, this is 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.800 gonna be awesome. And like he said, it was five 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.400 years of you know, some really great football but also 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:49.880 some phenomenal memories. I mean, I learned so much from 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.720 him as far as being a father and being able 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:56.080 to do all these things. Because I was navigating new waters, 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:59.200 I didn't know what life was like. And then the 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:02.360 endless number of phone calls or facetimes that he would 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.800 have on a bus, in the locker room, in the 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.640 meeting room, with his kids, with his wife. It just 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.200 modeled to me what that looked like to be able 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.000 to balance all those things, because a lot of people 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:13.840 don't do it successfully, but he was doing it in 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.160 a way that I was like, man, that this is special, 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.200 and I'm so fortunate to be able to see that. 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:20.720 On top of you know, the great football plays and 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.720 all those things. It was really a complete blessing to 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:26.720 be able to spend five years there because you know, 0:10:26.800 --> 0:10:29.800 now my kids are old enough and to be able 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:31.520 to see that and kind of pay it forward has 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.440 been really neat. Do you remember, because Drew you got 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:37.240 to Arizona first. Did you think when you got to 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.080 Arizona that you were going to be the starter? And 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.319 then the trade happened where Carson comes to the Cardinals? 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:47.040 And I think you got a pretty decent contract when 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:49.199 you came out the Arizona if I remember, and obviously 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.520 you had been with BA. What was your reaction, Drew 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.720 when you got to Arizona and the trade was made 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.480 for Carson? And then Carson What was your reaction when 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.400 you found out you were getting trade from the Raiders 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:06.280 to the Cardinals. Yeah, well, I didn't know Carson was coming. 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.240 I knew when I got out there, bas okay, just signed. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:10.880 We'll work it out because I had a chance to 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:14.920 stay in Indianapolis with Andrew. I loved Indianapolis. Clyde Christensen 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.480 was my quarterback coach there who was instrumental in a 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:20.920 lot of different ways in my life, and didn't want 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.560 to leave. But I got out the Arizona came on 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.600 my trip and they're, okay, we're either going to sign 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.840 Mike Glennon or we're gonna maybe try and trade for 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.839 Ryan Mallett. And I'm like, awesome, I will compete against 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.600 those guys every single day of the week. And you know, 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:35.280 it was a great contract. It was more money than 0:11:35.320 --> 0:11:37.440 I ever had, and I felt really good about it 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:39.480 and wanted a chance to compete the start because that's 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.240 what I was looking for. And then they traded for Carson, 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:46.320 And you know, I'm not stupid. I was well aware 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:48.040 of how good he was and how good of his 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:51.880 career was and all of those things, so I knew 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.280 there was no competition at that point. But I also 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.960 have had faith in the course of my career and 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.559 tried to learn from everybody I have come across. And 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:02.960 it was a complete blessing in disguise to show up 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.040 here not knowing who I was going to go against, 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.319 and there couldn't have been anybody else better to take 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.760 a backseat too and really be able to just be 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:12.480 in the background, because that's where I felt like I 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.600 thrived and was most comfortable throughout the entire course of 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:21.680 my career. Yeah, when I got to Arizona, well, I 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:23.040 didn't know where I was going to go. I was 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:29.800 in Oakland. That was just, quite frankly, a dumpster fire. 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.480 They had just Al Davis had just died, they had 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.280 just fired Hugh Jackson. They'd brought in another coach and 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:41.360 did a salon and then and I was getting ready 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.880 to go into year two of Oakland, and then like 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.800 the week before, a couple of days before, they said, hey, 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:48.760 they want you to take a pay cut, they want 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:52.560 to restructure your contract, and a whole bunch of very 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:57.439 team friendly adjustments that were going to happen. And at 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.360 that point in my career, I was just I wasn't 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.800 prepared to do that, and so I said, that's not 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.800 going to work out for me. I can I can 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.520 I can stay here with the current contract or can 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:12.160 I find a trade partner? Said? So, they gave me 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.160 a couple of days to think about it, and I said, 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.559 you know, nothing's changed. I haven't. I haven't changed my mind, 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.320 And they said, well, why don't you find a trade partner. 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.440 At that time, there was four or five teams that 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:25.760 were that were interested, but at the end of the day, 0:13:25.760 --> 0:13:28.840 it came down to San Francisco and Arizona, both teams 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.640 in the NFC West. And you know, I didn't know 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.880 a bunch about San Francisco. I knew there was kind 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.400 of it was kind of a tumultualius time in San 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.880 fran with Harbaugh and Trent Balki that the GM at 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:43.000 the time, there was a lot of kind of riff 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.880 raff in the news and things I was hearing. So 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:48.200 I was hoping that wasn't going to happen. And then 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:49.680 all of a sudden, I just got a call that 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:51.040 I was going to Arizona, and I was on the 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:55.199 phone with U, with BA and Steve Kim and Michael 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.280 Bidwell and m Before I knew it. I was Arizona 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:01.360 Cardinal and looking for a place to live and for 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.320 a school to put my kids in in Arizona. You 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:11.080 guys had some great moments here together, some incredible wins, 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:14.200 and a culture that was built here. But there are 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:17.240 a lot of people that remember the fun that you 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:20.120 guys had, and you know, I was talking to some 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.800 guys that were part of that team recently about the 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:26.600 costumes and the competition that you guys would have throwing 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.880 a football into a trash can. The loser had to 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.800 wear was at the cost who got to pick who wore? What? 0:14:33.080 --> 0:14:35.280 How did that play out? And what was the most 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:39.320 embarrassing costume that each of you had to wear? Go ahead, Drew, 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:43.680 start us off. I have my fun. I just was 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.880 talking to my son Flets the other night about one 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.320 costume I put you in particular that I can't wait 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.560 to talk about. But I'm gonna let you start us off. 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.600 I don't. I mean, we can do a whole entire 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.320 podcast on just this one subject, because I feel like 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:02.800 it garnered so much media. It really started. So my 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:07.760 career started in Detroit with John Kittna, who also was 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.560 in Cincinnati when Carson was drafted to Cincinnati. So we 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.800 had a mutual friend in John Kittna that kind of 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.160 brought us into the league and helped us out and 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.520 showed us some of the ropes. So I learned the 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:22.000 bucket drill from Kittna. And it wasn't until I was 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.480 reunited with Carson that it became this competition. And then 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.120 all of a sudden it just grew into this bigger 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:32.040 and bigger thing of like initially we just had costumes 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:34.200 and you would make shift and try and humiliate the 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.400 person and send them out for pregame warm ups. Like 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.480 Matt Barkley had to go when we played the Colts 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:42.040 and we put like chaps on him, did raid towels. 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.720 His wife was so mad at us with like ug boots, 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.640 and it was like, just however you could do it. 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:48.800 And then all of a sudden, I think it was 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.480 like year two. I was like, I'm going to step 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.880 this up a little bit, and all of a sudden, 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.640 the Halloween store right by the facility there on Elliott 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:59.200 I was hoping. I walked in and just rated everything. 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.880 I mean it was like the Michel entire Man, the 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:05.960 step off, like everything I could get my hands on 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.800 that would blow up or humiliate somebody dressed up like 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:11.880 a baby, anything that I could get, like, I was 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.200 getting that, And then all of a sudden Amazon became 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.200 more prevalent and we were ordering stuff. We had an 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.360 entire locker in between us and the bottom shelf there. 0:16:20.400 --> 0:16:21.960 It got to the point where we had all of 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.200 it just Okay, what are we going to make somebody 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.640 else dress up in this week? Or we're all hoping 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:29.080 to always get Pat. But Pat would then pay money 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:33.280 to get out of there. Then then yes, Patrick Peterson, Yes, 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.400 would pay money to get out of it because he 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.880 was so worried about his custom suit he had picked 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.640 out with a matching coat with the handkerchief and the 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.880 belt and the shoes to match, even though he dressed 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:45.440 up like Buddy the Elf. He didn't even know who 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.440 Buddy the Elf was, and he was like, I got 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.600 so many likes on Instant or on Twitter at the time. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:52.760 But he would do that. He would give us, like, 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:55.240 you know, a decent amount of money and that would 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:57.760 just go into our wine fund and we would be 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.720 able to spend more money on wine, which was for 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:06.760 the betterment of everybody. That's how it all kind of started, Oh, 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.360 I figured you were going to ask about the favorite costume. 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.080 If Carson already has his right off the battle, I'll 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:15.200 delegate to him. Yeah, I mean there were some really 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:17.840 good ones, and just to echo some of Drew's points, 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.560 I mean, really the goal was to make the person 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.160 that had to dress up look like the biggest horses 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:27.160 ass possible, Like how could you make them look how 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:31.200 could you be as demeaning as possible without crossing the line. 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:35.359 And one of my favorites was, you know, the best, 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.480 in my opinion, was when you would win on a 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:40.760 road trip, because that would mean the loser had to 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.159 dress up for the entire plane ride from Arizona to 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:48.000 most likely the East coast. Get on airplane, fly on 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.800 the team plane, get off the airplane, go back through 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.280 the airport, go through the hotel. There's always fans at 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:54.919 the hotel, and we would have to walk through the 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:58.360 lobby of the hotel in this outfit. And my favorite 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.359 all time. And I was just telling this story to 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:03.119 my son the other night. Was I we used to 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:07.800 fly Delta back in the day, and I bought an 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:12.240 actual Delta stewardess outfit online. I don't know how I 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.200 found it. I logged on the Delta, I signed in 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:18.720 like I was a stewardess and and put my sizes 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.560 into their website. And this sure enough, this Delta full 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:27.119 on Delta Ladies stewardess outfit, the white gloves, the little 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.200 neck thing. I don't know what you wear those next 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:31.040 things all the time where that little next thing is 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:34.600 the white gloves, the white gloves, a little purse, and 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:37.800 he looked like a Delta stewardess. And then the best 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:39.960 part was we get on the plane and Drew is 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.000 wearing the same exact outfit as the stewardess is. They're 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.480 showing us to our seats on the plane. So that 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:48.560 was my all time favorite. What did you wear through? 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:51.760 We had to walk through the lobby in Philadelphia, Philly? 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:55.040 What did I'll never forget that, I was gonna say, 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.480 I don't remember what it was. I think I might 0:18:57.520 --> 0:18:59.840 have crossed the line with that one. It was definitely. 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.400 I felt so good about it that I could not wait, 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.640 like I had this picked out for the whole year. 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:09.119 Just when he lost and by the time he came in, 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.840 I sprint into my locker. After he lost it, it it 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.600 was hanging his lockers just walked in him. He was like, yeah, 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:19.159 it was. It was a full polyester Merman outfit. So 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:26.160 it was a mermaid. Yeah, and my nipples were hanging out. 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:28.960 It was like cut off right here, and it was 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.960 a full on mermaid tale. But it was made out 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:35.560 of polyester. And we were flying from from Phoenix to Philly, 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:38.480 so we had a four hour plus flight and then 0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.840 the bus and the airport and the hotel and I 0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:45.080 would just I was drink, I was sweating. The thing 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.080 started off as green and ended up like dark brown 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:52.240 because it was just full of perspiration, unfortunately, and there 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.720 was like a wedding going on downstairs right so, like 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:58.120 we're walking through the lobby waiting for the elevator because 0:19:58.119 --> 0:19:59.960 it wasn't like we could go in the back way 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.320 and strategically go to our room. We had to wait 0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:06.280 for the like the elevators in the front and everybody's 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:10.760 sitting there, cameras are just snapping. Staff. Actually I took 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:15.960 pictures with the bride and groom in my mermaid. People 0:20:16.000 --> 0:20:18.600 are like kids that's future college Football Hall of Famer 0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:21.960 Heisman Trophy or Carson Palm are wearing a Burman outfit 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:24.919 that is priceless. Do you think that's one of the 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:30.720 reasons why you guys had success because of the chemistry, 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:32.760 Because you guys had fun. I mean, obviously hit your 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:37.679 job seriously, but there was a culture and Ba was 0:20:37.720 --> 0:20:41.280 about fun as well, and he wanted to win, of course, 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:44.399 But how beut you guys think that played a role 0:20:44.440 --> 0:20:48.360 in your success. I think there was a mentality of hey, 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:50.399