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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Dave Pash Podcast. For

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Speaker 1: the second time, we have multiple guests on the Dave

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Speaker 1: Brian Greasy, two members of the ESPN Monday Night Football Proof.

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Speaker 1: This week we have two former Arizona Cardinal quarterbacks. They

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Speaker 1: were teammates on the twenty fifteen Cardinal team that went

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Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship. Carson Palmer, who was recently inducted

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Speaker 1: into the College Football Hall of Fame, and Drew Stanton,

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Speaker 1: who currently is a member of the Cardinals broadcast team

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Speaker 1: and has a Super Bowl ring being part of the

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers run to the championship last year. We

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Speaker 1: get into a lot of stuff here on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: including some of the fund that they had back in

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Speaker 1: the day playing for Bruce Arians. They used to have

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Speaker 1: this game where they would throw a football into a

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Speaker 1: crazy costume that was picked out by the winner. Carson

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Speaker 1: and Drew will talk about some of their most embarrassing

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Speaker 1: costumes and some of their favorite costumes from back in

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Speaker 1: and nipples were hanging out. Plus the dance that made

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Speaker 1: Drew Stanton famous, where did it come from? And what's

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Speaker 1: their reaction to what Drew did on the sideline that

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Speaker 1: the cameras happened to catch during a Cardinals win against

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Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. There was no rehearsal. That was raw

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Speaker 1: emotion and like, those are my three moves, and they'll

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Speaker 1: like somebody threw up. Drew and Carson also talk about

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one Arizona Cardinals and whether they can

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Speaker 1: make a deep run in the playoffs, plus their thoughts

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Speaker 1: on Kyler Murray and where he is in year three

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Speaker 1: eight hundred. Next step. Here they are former Cardinal quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, College Football Hall of Fame inductee and Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl champion Drew stand So, guys. One of the reasons

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Speaker 1: I wanted to have you guys on together, I think

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Speaker 1: this is episode twenty one. We've only done one other

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Speaker 1: Monday Night Football Crew. One of the reasons I wanted

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Speaker 1: to get both of you together there is first of all,

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Speaker 1: because of your relationship, but also how much of both

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Speaker 1: of you meant to the Cardinals. Carson, Obviously, yours was

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Speaker 1: reached out to Drew to get his take on whether

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Speaker 1: you'd be interested, he said, yeah, I think Carson will

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Speaker 1: and Drew said, don't worry about it. He'll get back

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Speaker 1: I know you're in Idaho, Carson. What all you up

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Speaker 1: to these days? Well, I mean outside of chasing four

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Speaker 1: very focused, very concerned with dot and every T crossing,

433
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: every eye, all the xs and o's, the game plan.

434
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: We knew it inside. Now by the time we got

435
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: to Saturday, it was our time to get ready to

436
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: play and the game was twenty four hours away, and

437
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: that's what we'd put them all the work for, and

438
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: all the extra time watching film and Drew and I

439
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 1: coming in early and watching film with guys and just

440
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: you know, all the things that that it takes to

441
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: feel great going to bed on Saturday night before you

442
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 1: get ready to play on Sunday. We had done all

443
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: those things. We had done the mental exercises, the mental reps,

444
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 1: the physical rep that when we got through that week,

445
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: it was kind of like a big exhale. We got

446
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: to compete in the bucket drill, we got to throw

447
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: footballs in a trash can, We did our walk through,

448
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: and then we got on the plane and went to play.

449
00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: And like I said previously, all the hay was in

450
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: the barn. So you know, if there was ever a

451
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: situation and Bruce would be the first to put it

452
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 1: into it where we weren't putting the time and work

453
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: in and then goofing off on a Saturday, he would

454
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: have put it into it. But I think he respected

455
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: the way that you know, the quarterback room led the

456
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,719
Speaker 1: team and led the way we worked, led the way

457
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: we practiced, led the way we watched you film and

458
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: we're in meetings, and then when it was time to

459
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: enjoy the fruits of our labor on Saturdays and Sundays,

460
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 1: we enjoyed the wins. We enjoyed the prep going to

461
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: the games and flying to the games and going to

462
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: these new cities. And we had put all the time

463
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: and the work in and the week, and I think

464
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: that was respected by the entire coaching staff in the

465
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: organization where it never became a distraction or a problem

466
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: for the team. I do want to get into some

467
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: serious stuff meeting football, actual football discussion about what you

468
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: guys accomplished, but then also your thoughts on the Cardinals

469
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,239
Speaker 1: and some other teams in the NFL and some other

470
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: players in the NFL. But one more question related to

471
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: having fun, and this one was actually in a game.

472
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: You probably know where I'm going with this one, Drew.

473
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: In fact, you can't google Drew Stanton's name without Drew

474
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: stanton dance first coming up. It was the sideline dance

475
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Carson, had you ever seen? First of all, Drew,

476
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,479
Speaker 1: how did you come up with that? And Carson, did

477
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 1: you like see before Noah was coming? Like? Hold on,

478
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 1: let me let me interject here so we get done

479
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: right where this is our vantage points wholeheartedly. We get

480
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: into the locker room, we are so excited we just won,

481
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: and we come over and Mark Dalton, who isn't part

482
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: of everything communication wise for the air Zon and Cardinals,

483
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: comes over and he was like, you went viral. And

484
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: I was like, why did Carson go viral? He's like, no,

485
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: you did, and he's like, free your dance and I

486
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: was like we both looked at each other. I was like,

487
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: what dance? And what do you mean? What are you

488
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: talking about? Goes No. They like were panning down on

489
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: the third down where dre scored and they stopped right

490
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: on you and you had an ICEO and I was like, really,

491
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: I had no idea, So there was no rehearsal. That

492
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: was raw emotion and like those are my three moves,

493
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: and they'll they'll come out at various times. They just

494
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: all happened to come out at once, like something just

495
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: got spit out, like somebody threw up. So that's how

496
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: it kind of all transpired, and neither one of us

497
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: had any idea until it was what it was. Yeah,

498
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 1: I mean I was just as as surprised and shocked

499
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: and as soon as I saw the video. I think

500
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: I watched it on the way home from Seattle, probably

501
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: eighty five times. Didn't you find that game though? You

502
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: got fined that game too right for some inappropriate misconduct? Ye? Yeah,

503
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 1: I gotta fine that game. Did you get fined for

504
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: that dance? You should have been fined for that dance.

505
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: There wasn't quite enough. You didn't have enough hip rotation.

506
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: You didn't have enough flexibility in your hips for liked

507
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: and high enough. From my head, yeah, PG to PG

508
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: thirteen where they find you, Well, it was cold in Seattle.

509
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: Too tight? Yeah's always tight, yep. With the playoffs right

510
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: around the corner, and obviously the Cardinals they're going to

511
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: get in. It's just a matter of when we all

512
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: hoped it would be two weeks ago, but here we

513
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 1: are still not officially in, but it's going to happen.

514
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: What do you guys recall from that run to the

515
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game in twenty fifteen, and is there a

516
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 1: particular moment I think of the shovel, either the shovel

517
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: pass to fits or just before that where Carson you

518
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: bounce off of an offensive lineman and Larry's wide open

519
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: on the far side and nobody's around him for Green Bay.

520
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: Is it one of those two moments, guys? Or was

521
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: there something else from that run that stands out to

522
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: you the most? Um? For me, you know, there's you know,

523
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: it's never a play that that sticks out in my head. Um,

524
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: it's just the guys. I mean, it's it's it's the

525
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: group of individuals that were on that team. And you

526
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: think about the secondary and and Shoddy and you can

527
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: go on and on down the list that that locker

528
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: room full of guys. I mean, there's plays in every

529
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: game that win and lose a game. Um, And there's

530
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: some that are highlighted more or some that are played

531
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: on Sports Center more on Instagram feeds more. But UM,

532
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, I just think back that group of guys,

533
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: that secondary, that the leadership we had in the secondary,

534
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: the leadership we had on offense and the offensive line,

535
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: and then just kind of how the season ended and

536
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 1: then the team kind of got blown up and we

537
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: started all over again after winning twelve games or whatever

538
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen, whatever we won that year. You know, I

539
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: think back just the group of individuals, the guys that

540
00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: Um that came in with ba Um like Drew, like

541
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: a handful of other guys and the guys that were

542
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: there before that, and we're there for the struggling years

543
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: and just more more importantly, I just think about those

544
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: guys and it's not a play from a game, it's

545
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: not a play from a practice. It's just collectively when

546
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: you think back of that year starting and that group starting,

547
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: and training camp and going through you know, that long

548
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: month long training camp out there by the stadium, and

549
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: just as the season went on and progressed, guys went down,

550
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: guys stepped up, made plays. Drew stepped in a bunch

551
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: of games and won games. You know, backups all over

552
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: the place stepped in and made play. Those are the

553
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: things that stick out my mind. Those are the memories

554
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: I have. Yeah, the Larry fitz shovel pass and all

555
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: that jump out at you, but those are what the

556
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: public seas what Drew and I saw firsthand. You know,

557
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: the way that Tyran and Matthew grew up that year

558
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: and came up and had an amazing year, an amazing season.

559
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: Then to lose him in Week seventeen in Philly and

560
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: just the he's come back, and I know Drew probably

561
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: feels the same way. I'm so proud every time I

562
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: get to watch Tyr and play. I saw him as

563
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: a rookie. I saw him as a late, you know,

564
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: second or third round draft pick guy that was just

565
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,239
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. So now he's an All

566
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: Pro and a Super Bowl champ. And seeing the university

567
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: he went through and the composer he kept himself with

568
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: throughout the years past, those are the things that jump

569
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: out to me. Yeah, I would say the same thing.

570
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: I think that everybody thinks about those things, And there's

571
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: no doubt I've never been in a stadium louder that

572
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: that game against the Green Bay Packers when we were

573
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: able to go down to win and the Red Sea

574
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: was just absolutely going nuts. But really I think more

575
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: than that is we went to Pittsburgh and we had

576
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: like just an awful week. We say that the Greenbrier

577
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: was bad weather. We went to Pittsburgh and lost, and

578
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: Ba was just mad, you know, because he wanted to

579
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: be Pittsburgh so bad. And then we just started rattling

580
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: off these wins and just rattling, and it got to

581
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: a point where we were just expected to win. It

582
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: wasn't hey like we want to win this week, if

583
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: we do everything that we needed to do, we were

584
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: going to win a football game. And we started building

585
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: that confidence. And that's really where I think be A

586
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: kind of changed his mantra of this is your guys' team.

587
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: We're going to go as far as you take us

588
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: and the Frosty Rutgers of the world. Into Carson's point,

589
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: all of us role players accepted our role and loved

590
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: being in that role, and when called upon, we were

591
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: going to be prepared to thrive in that role or

592
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: try to do our best. So from there, that's really

593
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: where our team was formed, and that's what it carried

594
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: us on because that mentality was so unique, where everybody

595
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: was unselfish. We went out there and it wasn't about Hey,

596
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm not making enough money, or I'm not starting, or

597
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm not doing any of these things. We came together

598
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: as a collective whole and pushed it all the way

599
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: through to the NFC Championship Game and just lost to

600
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: a really good football team, the twenty twenty one Cardinals.

601
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: Being on the cusp of the postseason, what are your

602
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: guys thoughts on where they are, because obviously Cardinal fans

603
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: are unsettled right now based on the last two games.

604
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: But you guys know, everybody goes through a stretch like

605
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: this over the course of the season. I shouldn't say

606
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: most teams. Everybody has at least one bad game. Nineteen

607
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: seventy two is the last time somebody went undefeated all

608
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: the way through, and then he plays many games, and

609
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: now you're playing seventeen games, so it's even more now

610
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: an emphasis on trying to keep things together, which is

611
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: hard to do, and also the unpredictability of the NFL

612
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: week to week. I mean, you guys know about that.

613
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: So there's still time to the Cardinals to turn it around.

614
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: Where do you guys feel they are at this point?

615
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: Are you concerned about them being able to fix it

616
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: and have a deep run of the playoffs? Well, I mean,

617
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: I just I think I think they're one of the

618
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: best teams in the NFC. I think there's a lot

619
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: that needs to be found out and a lot that

620
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: needs to be seen. I think for Kyler Murray to

621
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: lose DeAndre Hopkins, his security blanket, his go to when

622
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: things break down, he finds a way to get him

623
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: the ball one way or the other, that's a huge loss.

624
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: I think We're going to find out in the next

625
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: three or four weeks whether it's overcomable or not. But

626
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: just watching the little bit that I saw a last

627
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: week's game, you know, the thing that concerns me is

628
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: some of the leadership deficiencies that I've seen. I mean,

629
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: some of the body language I've seen from Kyler. When

630
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: you're down in Detroit, you just can't do you You

631
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: need to keep even though you're faking it. You need

632
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: to keep ra ra face on you. There's just certain

633
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: things you need to do as a quarterback that He's

634
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: still young, he's still learning, he's still working his way through.

635
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: But I don't think the season is lost. I don't

636
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: think the season is over. I think everything's out in

637
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: front of them. I think they need to totally adjust

638
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: the way that they go about the next handful of

639
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: weeks because DeAndre was such a big part of their offense.

640
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: And I know he was gone for a week here

641
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: and a week there, and a hamstring and different things.

642
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: But now that you know he's not coming back, now

643
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: that you know he will be on the sideline in

644
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: a sweatshirt and sweatpants, that just changes your mentality from

645
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: a quarterback standpoint, that changes your your mentality from a

646
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: play caller standpoint, that changes your confidence in that offensive huddle.

647
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: There's a guy in that huddle that can that can

648
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: just flat out win a game. And when you take

649
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: DeAndre that guy out of that huddle, it changes the

650
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: dynamics the huddle. And I just really look to see

651
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: what kind of leader Kyler is going forward, because now

652
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: it's really all on him. Now it's really on his shoulders.

653
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: And I know Chase Edmonds is back, and they've lost

654
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: some other guys, and there's been some leaders that have

655
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: fallen to injury and some older guys that are no

656
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: longer on the team, like Larry Fitz, But now it's

657
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: on Kyler. Can Kyler lead this team? Can he find

658
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: a way to shake that, you know, just bad body

659
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: language that we've seen the last couple of weeks. Can

660
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: he find a way to lead this group of guys?

661
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: Can he find a way to overcome some some adversity

662
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: that they're gonna have to overcome again. They're gonna be

663
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: down multiple scores again like they were last week in Detroit.

664
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: Can they overcome it? Um? I have absolutely think Tyler's

665
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: capable of doing it. I absolutely think Kyler has the

666
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: ability and the god given athleticism, the arm, talent, all

667
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: of that he's got at all. Now he needs to

668
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: prove it. Now he's at a really, really important turning

669
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: point in his career. Let's see what he can do.

670
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: I can't wait to watch him play. I cannot wait

671
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: to watch this team play because it's now solely on

672
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: his shoulders, and he's got enough talent around him. He's

673
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: got playmakers on the defensive side of the ball, Guys

674
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: that can create turnovers, guys that can get to the quarterback,

675
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: create sack fumbles, all of that. The team is very

676
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: well built. The team, in my opinion, it's an extremely

677
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: talented team. They don't have the depth that some teams have,

678
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: but there are playmakers all over the place, and they've

679
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: lost a couple in DeAndre and some other guys, but

680
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: there's enough talent to overcome it. And I can't wait

681
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: to watch these next couple of weeks unfold. Yeah. I

682
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: think a very similar thought to Carson of the quarterback

683
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: position is so important and to save Grace is having

684
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: somebody like Colt McCoy in that room. I think somebody

685
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: that Kyler can trust that he can look to that

686
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: he can feel comfortable talking stuff through with. But now

687
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: is the time to really, you know, screw everything down

688
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: and say we got to start playing our best football

689
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: because the first portion of this season they looked unstoppable.

690
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: They really they had so many answers for anything anybody

691
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: throughout them and whether there was a team that wanted

692
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: to run the ball, if they jumped on them early

693
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: and took them out of what they did best. They

694
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: haven't been able to do that. So how do you

695
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: go to a plan B or C and still find

696
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: a way to win a football game? They haven't been

697
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: able to do that. I talked about it before. I

698
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: think it's extremely difficult if you're a play caller and

699
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: also a head coach, because those are two very important roles,

700
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: and sometimes you don't have a pulse of what's going

701
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: on on defense or you need to, hey, maybe we

702
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: need to call special teams, play here, a fake punt,

703
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: something to flip momentum back in our favor. And so

704
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: it's hard. I think that the era is not pointing up,

705
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 1: but I also don't think it's pointing down either. There's

706
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: nothing to hang your hat on. They have a chance

707
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: to get in the playoffs, and when if you get

708
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, everybody's level playing field at that point.

709
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: And so to Carson's point, I think they have a

710
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: bunch of veteran guys. I don't know how many quote

711
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: unquote leaders they have. I don't know how many Carlos

712
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: Stansby's there are on defense. And he'll get up there

713
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: and ra rod and get everybody to go. And you

714
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: know the Tyron Matthews of the world that will call

715
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: out a secondary you know Patrick Peterson or a Larry

716
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald that would just lead by example. They have those

717
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: kind of guys, and those guys are great. You need

718
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: all different types and different forms of leadership. But I

719
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: want my quarterback. I want to be able to look

720
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: at him on the sidelines and I want to be

721
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: able to tell if they're up by forty or down

722
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: by forty. And everybody, to a man yesterday or has

723
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: talked about this different days about Kyler's body language, and

724
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: if it's not apparent to a fan watching on that,

725
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 1: think about the effect that it's having on his teammates

726
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: around him. And he probably knows it. He's never had

727
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: to truly deal with adversity and I said this post game.

728
00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 1: I said, losing at this point doesn't show character, build character,

729
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: it reveals it. And we're gonna learn a lot about

730
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. And that's what Carson was talking about. We're

731
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: gonna have a great sense of where this team is

732
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: because they're only going to go as far as Kyler

733
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: is as capable of taking them. But he has the

734
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: weapons to do it. In aj Green, he has the

735
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: weapons to do it with Chase Edmonds and James Connor.

736
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I know this team so well, probably better

737
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: than I ever have, because I've started to study and

738
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: talk about them. I mean, the offensive line and all

739
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: those things. Sometimes it's just a matter of rewiring your brain.

740
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: If you get hurt, hit early in the game, I'm saying,

741
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: i gotta stay in this pocket and make plays. I've

742
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: got to be on time, in rhythm and making these

743
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: on time throws so the ball is coming out regardless

744
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: of how the rush is. And that's just it's a

745
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: hard trait to learn, but it's a necessity to be

746
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: able to understand that and situational football as you move forward.

747
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: So along those lines of putting the onus on Kyler

748
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: Murray to play great because usually the team that wins

749
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl has the quarterback that's playing the best,

750
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: and Drew, you were that last year Tom Brady and

751
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers didn't win their division wildcard team

752
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: it was this week last year. You get signed to

753
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: the practice squad, so you're a part of the team

754
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: for the run to the Super Bowl, and then you're

755
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: activated on game day so you're out there for the championship.

756
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: What was that experience? Like Drew and Carson, feel free

757
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: to jump in on this, I'm curious as two guys

758
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: that played the position, what is it about Tom Brady? Men? Look,

759
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: he obviously has incredible skill as a passer, but his leadership,

760
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: the intangibles. Why is he so this guy's almost forty

761
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: five years old and he's still doing it at an

762
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: elite level. Why do you guys think that is well?

763
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: I mean getting a chance to see how he operates

764
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: and how he prepares it's meticulous. I mean it is

765
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: so structured, almost to a play where it's robotic in

766
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: because this guy human. I mean the structure in which

767
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: he goes about everything, but he also is he has

768
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: everything so calculated on how he does things. I mean,

769
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: what he eats his You know, he has the Alex

770
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: Guerrero who's his massage guy or also a workout guy,

771
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: Like he has a guy that's constantly working on him.

772
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: All of these things, so he has everything set up

773
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: exactly the way that he wants it to feel most comfortable.

774
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: But again, as Carson was talking about earlier on the show,

775
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: everything is a build up to Sunday, a build up mentally, physically, emotionally,

776
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: you know, all of these things. And he is a

777
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: tremendous leader. But there are some guys, to be quite honest,

778
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: that can't play with him because he demands so much.

779
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at the game Sunday night,

780
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: that poor running back that had to go in there,

781
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: he didn't know what he was doing. You could see

782
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: Tom just glaring at him with these eyes, and this

783
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: kid's confidence just goes just like it plummets. So there's

784
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: certain people that can handle that, and there's certain people

785
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: that can't. But Tom has a tremendous ability to pull

786
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: people along with him. And seeing the way that he

787
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: connects to everybody within that locker room when I got

788
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 1: there and saw it for six weeks, much like Carson,

789
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 1: right like, you don't have to go around and tell

790
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 1: somebody you're a leader. If you have to tell somebody

791
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: you're a leader, you're not a leader. And the most

792
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: important thing about leadership is followership. So you better to

793
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: make sure everybody's following you. And all those people when

794
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: we got to the playoffs, thought we were going to win,

795
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: even on defense, but man, we've got Tom Brady like

796
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: everybody to have t because he had been there, he

797
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: had done that, and they knew what it was going

798
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: to take for him to be successful and the team

799
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: as a collective hole to be successful. So it was

800
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: great to see it and just be a part of

801
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: it and have it culminate at the very end because

802
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: I mean, going into Green Bay they said there was

803
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: ten thousand people in the stands. I mean they either

804
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: don't know how to count in Wisconsin or they let

805
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: anybody in that had a heartbeat, And they had these

806
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: boards that they were hidden against the stands. It was

807
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: so loud. After going to New Orleans, which was so

808
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: eerie because it was dead silent in there. I mean

809
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: it was I'm used to that place. I've been there

810
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs, have been there for regular season. Going into

811
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: New Orleans in a regular year, it would have been

812
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: really difficult to try and come with when especially we've

813
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 1: seen the struggle Stamp has had against the Land since

814
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: Tom's tenure. Anything Carson that you've noticed playing against Brady

815
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: over the years that makes him probably the greatest ever

816
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: played the position. Just everything, I mean every attribute you know,

817
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: his ability to stay healthy, accuracy, toughness, leadership, all those things.

818
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: But I mean I also think so when I was

819
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 1: a buddy of mine, Matt Castle played in New England,

820
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: and I would always reach out to Matt to get

821
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: his scouting report from New England, like, hey man, simmon

822
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: what you got on Buffalo? Hey Man, simmon what you

823
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: got on the Jets? We're getting whoever I was getting

824
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: ready to play that I knew played New England. I

825
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: would always try to get the past scouting reports because

826
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: it was so in depth. And I don't know if

827
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: Brady was a part of that, typically a quarterbacks not

828
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: that's a coaching staff thing. But I think Brady is

829
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: the greatest to ever play. I think he played for

830
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: a great, great coach, most likely the greatest coach to

831
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: ever play, And kind of what Drew was talking about

832
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: it as it's it's it was very meticulous with him,

833
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 1: every build up that that's probably that foundation, which probably

834
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: started in New England and probably from Bill Belichick. So

835
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: you combine one of one of the most meticulous, toughest,

836
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: most accurate, best, best thrower in adverse conditions with the

837
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: best coaching staff. I mean, you look at Bill Belichick's

838
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: coaching staff. It's not a bunch of his buddies. He's

839
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: not a bunch of his boys from high school or

840
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: somebody that gave his kid a scholarship in college. Whatever

841
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: that is. He interviewed and he vetted all of his

842
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: coaches and it wasn't about anything other than their ability

843
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: to teach, and not their ability to coach, but their

844
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: ability to teach. And you just look at that staff,

845
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: and I know he hasn't spurred off a ton of

846
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: great head coaches, but he's coached and been the head

847
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: coach of a bunch of great, great coordinators and position coaches.

848
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: And you know, I just always think back I was

849
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: always hitting up Castle, sending them a box on wine,

850
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 1: doing whatever I could to get his scouting reports, because

851
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: his scouting reports made our scouting reports look like they

852
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: were the JV. Football team, and so you combine, you know,

853
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: all of the attributes that Brady has with all the

854
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: attributes that Bill Belichick has, and then he transitions right

855
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: into a Bruce arians organization where Bruce has brought in

856
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: his coaching staff and built I mean, you look at

857
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: Todd Bowls and on and on down the line the

858
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: coaches that he's brought into Tampa. Great players and great

859
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: teams win football games and win championships. And you combine

860
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: great players and great teams with great organizations and great

861
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: coaching staffs, and that's the rest to be for championships.

862
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: I had about ten more questions, but I know you

863
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 1: guys have dad duty, So just a couple more, we'll

864
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: get you guys out of here. Carson, congratulations on being

865
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 1: inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame. Very well deserved.

866
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm curious your thoughts on Lincoln Riley, the new head

867
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: coach at USC when it happened as somebody that I

868
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: don't do a ton of Pac twelve college football, but

869
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: a lot of my college basketball games are Pac twelve games.

870
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: So I'm very interested in the conference having success and

871
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: getting into the College Football Playoff, which it's been a

872
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: while since it's happened, do you think this is a

873
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: game changer, not just for USC, but for the Pac

874
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 1: twelve and maybe for college football as a whole, that

875
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: there is now a powerhouse coach. Yes, he hasn't won

876
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: a national championship, but got to the College Football Playoff.

877
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: I think it was three out of four years, one

878
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 1: of those years with Kyler. Do you think that this

879
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: means USC is back and that the Pac twelve then

880
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: is back in the College Football Championship? Hunt, Well, we're

881
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: not back until until we're in it and we're playing

882
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: for the championship. But believe it or not, Drew's actually

883
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: the one that broke me the news. I didn't know

884
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 1: until I got a text from Drew saying something about

885
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, and I was like what, And I blogged

886
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: onto my phone and realized what had happened. So Drew's

887
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: a little mini Adam Schefter. Watch Out, Watch Out, Dave Carroll.

888
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,439
Speaker 1: I sent it to your PO box though the PO

889
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: box in your town and smoke screens. I sent out

890
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: to you and idahouse just to yah, you broke me

891
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: the news. Kudos to you, not that I'm following everyday

892
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: Twitter feeds and all the all the intricate social media

893
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: platforms that you're following and getting tidbits of information from.

894
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: But that came to me from you. I did not

895
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: know what happened. Um, well done. Um, But no, I

896
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: mean they're not back until they're back. I mean, it

897
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: just just signed him to a long term contract. Doesn't

898
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: mean anything until he proves he's worthy of that contract.

899
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: But absolutely, I mean, it's just it's the same thing

900
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL. The NFL is better when the Cowboys

901
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: and and Pittsburgh are quality teams. Um. The NFL is

902
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: not better when the Bengals and the Bills are great.

903
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: College football is better when Alabama and Texas and USC

904
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: and Michigan and Michigan State. Um. But but the bigger

905
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: teams throughout all of all of the power conferences, when

906
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: when those teams are the best, it just seems like

907
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: that's when college football is the most respective. And when

908
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: you have unfortunately you know, Cincinnatis or Boise States playing

909
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, it just kind of doesn't feel right.

910
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 1: But when you have these Power five conference, these these dominant,

911
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: massive endowment universities playing in the championship or playing for

912
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: a championship in the playoffs. It just feels better, it

913
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: feels right. So I absolutely think it's a great thing

914
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: for college football, absolutely and proud that he's our coach.

915
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: I think he is. We could not have had a

916
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: better hire Drew. As soon as Drew sent me that text,

917
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 1: I was texting him back and it's like, man, we

918
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: were both coming back and forth like what a great hire.

919
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: And it came out of nowhere. It came out of

920
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: absolute left field. Nobody was even really there were no

921
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: whispers of maybe Lincoln Ryan Riley would leave Oklahoma. You

922
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: just couldn't fathom that. But I just think it was

923
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: a ten out of ten higher. And that's you know,

924
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: twenty percent of the work done. They have eighty percent

925
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: of the work done, which is getting those recruits on campus,

926
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: coaching them up, getting them on the field, and proving

927
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 1: them to be successful. So there's a lot of work

928
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: to do. But absolutely, I think it's great for USC

929
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: and more importantly, it's great for college football because when

930
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: US season it and the Power you know, the top

931
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: teams in the Power conferences are are the top teams

932
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: in the country. It's the same thing in the NFL.

933
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: It's like all the big markets. You want the New

934
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: York's and the Las and Chicagos and these big market

935
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: cities playing in the playoffs. You know, for from the

936
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: NFL standpoint, you don't necessarily want these really small market

937
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: teams playing in the playoffs. You want the best, the best,

938
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: the biggest, the biggest. And I think when SCS in it,

939
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: and when SCS competing for a championship, it's great for

940
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: college football. Not saying that Michigan State started this whole thing,

941
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: because obviously there have been coaches that have been getting

942
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: long term, major contracts for a wild Jumbo Fisher, Nick Saban,

943
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: two names that come to mind. But this year anyway,

944
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: Michigan State electing to sign melt Tucker in the middle

945
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: of the season to ten year almost one hundred million

946
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: dollar contract. That started to turn. I have to manage it.

947
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: For Brian Kelly, the wheel started spinning. He even said, look,

948
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving Notre Dame and less at job comes

949
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: along where it's just crazy money. Well it did. It

950
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: happened with LSU Lincoln Riley. I don't know that Lincoln

951
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: was looking to leave Oklahoma all of a sudden, huge money,

952
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: which he would have been able to get anyway. But

953
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: because of what happened with Mel and Drew tell me

954
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: to disagree with this, it felt like the floodgates really open.

955
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 1: And now you got coaches leaving teams that were still

956
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: in the hunt for the college football Playoff and teams

957
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: that are playing major bowl games. Coaches are bailing because

958
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: they're getting those basically contracts that you're going to retire

959
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: from me. You could even if your last two years,

960
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: you got ten years guaranteed, you're set for life. Yeah. Well,

961
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: or it's like Norman Oklahoma, LA Private Jet. Whatever Lincoln's

962
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: deal was, it was pretty sweet. But yeah, I mean

963
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: what I saw those numbers throw around for Mel Tucker,

964
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, if he's gonna get that

965
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: at LA, see you then go to LSU. I mean,

966
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: we're Michigan State. We've we've hung our hat on being

967
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: a blue collar school that has always kind of played

968
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: second fiddle. And they started talking about ten years, ninety

969
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: five million dollars. Now it helps to have a booster

970
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 1: that's a billionaire that was a walk on for Izzo

971
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: in matt Ishpia and he just wrote the check apparently,

972
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: so I need to get in touch with him or

973
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: It also had me contemplate should I get into coaching,

974
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: because that would be a pretty nice pay day. I

975
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 1: can only imagine, you know what that looks like. But

976
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's great for college football to

977
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: be able to get a household name at a household

978
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: university because if you look around at the landscape of

979
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,879
Speaker 1: college football now, I think you know, Sarka is going

980
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,239
Speaker 1: to get everything corrected at Texas, But the Floridas, the

981
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 1: Florida States, the Miami's of the world. I mean, even

982
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, Michigan is now back, but there's not a

983
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: perennial powerhouse or a household name like the Joe Paternos

984
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: or Bobby Bowdens of the world anymore. But the Carson's point,

985
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: because Carson and I later in that same conversation, we're

986
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: talking about if you become a winner, the university will

987
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: back you through those and downwards through the money, and

988
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: they'll make that money up tenfold by support of people

989
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: that want to jump on the bandwagon. And USC will

990
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: gladly welcome that because they have the people out there

991
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: willing to do it. But you're not going to back

992
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: at Clay Hilton. I mean no offense to Clay Helton,

993
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: but it's harder to do that, and it's a harder

994
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: sell at that point versus a Jimbo Fisher type of

995
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: a guy or Brian Keyler. I mean, I saw Brian

996
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: Kelly like doing like the dance with some guy like recruit.

997
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, this looks so awkward, but that's what you

998
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 1: do now, right to get top level recruits. And you

999
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 1: have to do all this crazy stuff because you're catering

1000
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: and your livelihood is attached to seventeen and eighteen year

1001
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: old kids. All right, last one, we'll get you out

1002
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: of here. You guys have touched on your love of

1003
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: wine several times. I'm not going to ask you what

1004
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: your favorite wine is because for those that are listening,

1005
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: it's probably very expensive. So give people out there who

1006
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: may be interested in wine or thinking about starting to

1007
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: become interested in wine. What are some good value buys

1008
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: for people out there that you would recommend. I could

1009
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: tell you Carson does not even say what's mine? Camus.

1010
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: Camus is a good one. Yeah, but that's hold on out.

1011
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: That's everybody. You said value line, good value, good value,

1012
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: like less expensive within I mean, Camus, you're talking about

1013
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 1: anywhere between seventy five one hundred dollars just for that's

1014
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: a value line. For Carson, that's like a Tuesday. That's

1015
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: like a Tuesday, like Carson the listener that probably to

1016
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: spend one hundred bucks on a Tuesday night on an

1017
00:52:53,880 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: every day Katta, do you really don't what you're saying.

1018
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: What you're saying is all you guys do is drink

1019
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: expensive wine. There are oh no, no, no no. I

1020
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: would back up and start saying, what do you like

1021
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: to drink? First of all, right, like if you like

1022
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: to drink cabs because NAPA has just gotten so out

1023
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: of control and everything is expensive, right, But if you're

1024
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 1: open to drinking different varietals, then I can recommend a

1025
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: lot of different stuff like pianos or different stuff of

1026
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: that nature. You know, Carson, I am talking most recently

1027
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: about getting more into like grenashes and suras because the

1028
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: Napa Valley cab is just taken off and whether it

1029
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: was you know, just a crazy year like it wasn't seventeen,

1030
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: or they have smaller surplus where they didn't make wines

1031
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,839
Speaker 1: like all of those things, NAPA has just gotten out

1032
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: of control with the cab where you can find really

1033
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: good value wine, but it's more so. And that's why

1034
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: I love wine and love talking about wine, and Carson

1035
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: and I enjoyed it. It's so subjective, right, what do

1036
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: you like in wine? And when I introduce people are

1037
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: trying to educate people on how I learned. It's a

1038
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: lot of Okay, well, what region do you like? What

1039
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: tasting see like? What don't you like? That's equally as

1040
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: important as what you do like? So I mean I

1041
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 1: can nerd out on this. You can have a part

1042
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: two of this podcast and start talking about it, because

1043
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: I think it's so fun for people to hone in

1044
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: on what they really like. And I don't think it's

1045
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: a price point because you can get enamored with ratings

1046
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 1: and Robert Parker can tell you how something should taste

1047
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: or what it tastes like, or um. I have been

1048
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: told I have an amazing mid palette by multiple people

1049
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: in Napa Valley. So that's true. So beyond that, what

1050
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: does that mean? In Layman's terms, have a very sophisticated

1051
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: mid palette. It's uh, it's the creme de la creme.

1052
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: Carson wishes he had it, but we're still working on it.

1053
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: To develop it. But it's not the front, and it's

1054
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: obviously not the back where all the tannins are. Um.

1055
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: So it's just one of those things that you either

1056
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: yeahta or you know. And I uh, I've been told

1057
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: multiple times by some wine makers, some small yas, some

1058
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: wine owners in nappa Um that they thought I had

1059
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: a really good min palette to be able to taste

1060
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: some of those things. So let's, you know, teach his own.

1061
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: Drew teaches own. But that's just a second kind of

1062
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: what Drew saying. I mean, I don't know. I like

1063
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: to drink wine. I don't. I don't really care about

1064
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: where it's from, what region it's from, what vintage what.

1065
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't care. Um. But I just think, you know,

1066
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: there's a handful of really good pinots if if I

1067
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: live at high I live at nine thousand feet altitude now,

1068
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Speaker 1: so I can't drink cabs anymore. I don't drink cabs anymore.

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Speaker 1: If I do drink wine, it's peanuts, um, and peanuts

1070
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Speaker 1: just a great substitute for for cabs, because, like Drew's

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Speaker 1: talking about, a decent cabs one hundred plus bucks a bottle,

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Speaker 1: you can find a really good pino like um like

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Speaker 1: William Selman or William Sellium. You know you know that

1074
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 1: that brand drew right, William Selman black and red label.

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Speaker 1: It's like sixty bucks a bottle, solid bottle, delicious bottle.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: really don't care where it's from, what region it's from,

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Speaker 1: who the winemaker is, as long as it as long

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Speaker 1: as it tastes good and the bottle's not empty, I

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00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, Sea smokes a good pino too. That

1081
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: I found out that's Michael Bidwell's favorite pino is Ce Smokes.

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00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: I made sure to get him some see smoke when

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Speaker 1: my contract was expiring. It's a smart man. I was

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Speaker 1: told at a winery when I first started to kind

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00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: of get into it that you taste wine basically with

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00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: your nose. And as you guys can tell with my schnaz,

1087
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Speaker 1: that's a good thing. So yeah, it's always the second

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00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: sip too, the first sip. Don't don't take that into account.

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00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 1: You always have to get the second sip to truly

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Speaker 1: taste with the one. Is like all I know is awful.

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Speaker 1: When I got COVID last year because I couldn't I

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00:56:54,080 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: couldn't smell it even with this thing, this big nose ruins. Well, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you guys doing this. We could definitely

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Speaker 1: have touched down a lot of other subjects, but I

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Speaker 1: appreciate the time, fellas. Thanks so much, Thanks Dud. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks David. Was a lot of fun. Had so much

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Speaker 1: fun with Carson and Drew. We could have gone another hour.

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Speaker 1: There were a lot of questions I had that I

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Speaker 1: didn't get to, but we kept those guys long enough.

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Speaker 1: How about Drew saying how complimentary the folks in Napa

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Speaker 1: Valley were about his mid palette and what exactly that means.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys enjoyed that, and hopefully if you out

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00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: there are interested in wine, actually were able to glean

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Speaker 1: something from Drew and Carson talking about how expensive their

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00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: wine tastes are. Hopefully there was something you could get

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00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: out of that for a more value purchase at the

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Speaker 1: grocery store. Of course, they had some very interesting thoughts

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Speaker 1: in Kyler Murray and the Earlshunt of Cardinals and whether

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Speaker 1: they could make a deep run in the playoffs. It

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Speaker 1: was great to get Drew's perspective on Tom Brady being

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00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: a part of that championship run and just hearing Carson

1112
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Speaker 1: talk about what it was like to lead that Cardinal

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Speaker 1: team back in twenty fifteen to the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 1: Those two guys were so important to the Cardinal's success

1115
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Speaker 1: and the culture that was built here. And hopefully this

1116
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Speaker 1: Cardinal team can get as far as that Cardinal team

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Speaker 1: maybe father. We are presented by bet MGM, the official

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Speaker 1: sports betting partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by Hila

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Speaker 1: River Hotels and Casinos. Thanks again to Carson Palmer and

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Speaker 1: Drew Stanton. We'll talk to you next week. The legendary

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Speaker 1: Al McCoy sons broadcaster for fifty years, will be our

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Speaker 1: guest on the Dave Pash Podcast