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Speaker 2: Mike, you want to start in the obvious place with

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Speaker 3: Ben Roethlisberger place to start. We'll start there. I thought

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, Mike.

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Speaker 4: Let's start with uh. Let's start with the game of

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Speaker 4: the weekend. There were two games over the weekend that

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Speaker 4: on open at Cincinnati or I'm sorry, Las Vegas at Cincinnati,

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Speaker 4: And obviously a lot of people care about the Cowboys,

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Speaker 4: with that game, how it unfolded. Dallas was it is

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean and real quick.

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Speaker 5: And we've talked about this again on paper, and this

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Speaker 5: You know, yep, here's San Francisco Jimmy Garoppolo. You know

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Speaker 5: turns out they both did. Both Dak and Jimmy's interceptions

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Speaker 5: I believe in this game. And we know that officiating

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Speaker 3: Done in the playoffs. I mean, it was unreal. Some

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Speaker 2: Going had no control over that game.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 5: It was stunning, and I like you. You just said Oakland Raiders.

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Speaker 5: I on air said Oakland Raiders. So later that night

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Speaker 2: Oh I love that was there Beck going on, we'll

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Speaker 5: But I mean, listen, for all of that game with

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Speaker 5: So you're like, oh my god. So they kept themselves

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Speaker 4: He should have known the rules that situational football. It's

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Speaker 4: You signed that quarterback as your franchise quarterback. You paid

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Anything that happens after that, I understand, will

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Speaker 4: discuss it. People want to fire Mike McCarthy. I get it.

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Speaker 2: But the Cowboys and their.

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Speaker 4: Two hundred plus million dollar quarterback had the ball back

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Speaker 4: They had their opportunity and Dak could not get it done.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, and that's the one thing. At

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Speaker 5: But yeah, you have a lot of time in the

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Speaker 5: get it done. And again I'm not putting everything on Dak.

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Speaker 5: You know, the the quarterbacks do get too much praise

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a team game.

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Speaker 5: Now, certainly some is going to go his way, and

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Speaker 5: certainly Mike McCarthy's way, and deservedly so. But yes, there

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Speaker 4: Mike any people, because I realized, like a lot happens,

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys got the ball back down.

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Speaker 4: Six with two hundred two minutes and fifty one seconds

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Speaker 2: Uh. They got one first down, I believe, and then

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Speaker 2: The fact that the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Had an opportunity, even an opportunity, was a miracle in

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Speaker 5: It back, to get it back with with with I

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Speaker 5: think it was amazing. You were like, okay, they gave

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But some of the plays in this game, I

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Speaker 4: Mike they got it back with thirty two seconds, just

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Speaker 4: so you know, deep in their own end, but they

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Speaker 4: got it back with thirty two seconds, ran a.

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Speaker 2: Bunch of play.

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Speaker 5: On the first play and perfectly executed bound perfectly executed,

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Speaker 5: that blew my mind was the fake punt. Beautiful fake punt. Yes,

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Speaker 3: There is a rule, Gang and Cowboy fans, you have

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Speaker 5: As soon as you take one guy off the field,

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Speaker 5: So that's sub institution. The rest stands over the ball

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Speaker 5: when they can go away from that to run the play. Well,

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Speaker 5: they had to run the entire defense. I mean, it

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Speaker 5: They did it while the play clock is running down,

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Speaker 3: In the way.

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Speaker 2: Wait, Tony, Mike. Tony Ruma was so confused.

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Speaker 4: He said, I think they're gonna fake punt again.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, I think the ref is doing

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Speaker 5: was and they there was a delay a game that's

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Speaker 5: on the Cowboys and then my god, the last play.

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Speaker 5: All right, let me before I get to the last play,

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Speaker 5: last play from did you like to play?

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Speaker 3: Call the execution? Whatever? What else? What else would you done?

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Speaker 3: What did you guys think of it?

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Speaker 2: Well? I just fun.

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Speaker 4: He like Billy is laughing about something. He's got that

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Speaker 4: because I don't think Billy really wants to break down

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Speaker 2: It was great. I love that final player perfectly, I did,

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Speaker 2: I have Billy, what.

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Speaker 3: Were you doing that? Well?

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Speaker 6: No, he was gonna say, Mike, you're breaking this down.

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Speaker 6: Is it fair to say both teams were trying to

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Speaker 5: Don't stop. Listen, you already at times aggravate me enough.

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Speaker 5: You need that line, and listen, it's not on you

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Speaker 5: because you didn't invent the line. Whenever I hear these

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Speaker 5: want to I want to throw up or punch a

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Speaker 5: wall or like you said it, Mike, nobody's just trying

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Speaker 5: to lose, Bill. They're making mistakes and doing dumb things,

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Speaker 5: but they're not trying to lose the game.

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Speaker 3: But do they want to win it?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: Want to exactly and they really want to go to

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Speaker 4: lambeau Field and deal with.

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Speaker 2: That team and that quarterback.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you run the ball with no timeouts and

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Speaker 6: gonna get a second play.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're not trying to win. You're not trying

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Speaker 5: I'm just gonna go silent. I'm gonna go silent.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna is Dallas. The first team to run back

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Speaker 7: to back fake punts. Was the offense that bad that

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Speaker 7: they were like, you know what, the fake punt worked?

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Speaker 3: Run that again? It was dark, Like, I mean, first

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Speaker 3: stop it. You got to stop it.

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Speaker 6: They also recovered, by the way, a fumble that ended

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Speaker 6: up not being a catch, but they almost got back

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Speaker 6: into it on that play. The Kittle thought that he

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Speaker 2: It was the greatest incompletion in the history of the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Well, you're not, kidd was so happy it was an incompletion,

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Speaker 5: so happy it was an incompletion.

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Speaker 2: And what was kitd'll do it? I mean, you're trying

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Speaker 2: to get an extra yard?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 5: Listen, when you're out there, you're you're you're hoping it

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Speaker 5: goes your way.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, so Mike, my my kind of with

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Speaker 4: the final play, you're sitting there, so they have a

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Speaker 2: There on I think around the forty yard.

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Speaker 3: Line, forty one yard line. Forty one.

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's and I think maybe there was time for

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Speaker 4: two or three plays right.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen seconds left, depending on the play you call.

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Speaker 4: So maybe you get maybe you get two or three

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Speaker 2: It's essentially a hail mary.

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Speaker 5: Let me just say, fourteen seconds from the forty yard line,

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Speaker 3: You got you'll get two.

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Speaker 4: Plays, So you get two plays al right place, Yes,

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Speaker 4: I'm okay with the play that they called. Dak needs

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Speaker 4: to go down at the thirty maybe the twenty eight

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Speaker 4: or something for more time, and then you have one.

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Speaker 2: Play, which is a real play. It's not a hail mary.

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Speaker 4: It's not a prayer you can run a real play

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Speaker 4: you know, a game when he touchdown. So I guess

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Speaker 4: from that standpoint, I was kind of okay, good play,

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Speaker 3: Thousand percent correct.

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Speaker 5: Now if if they were decided to because I mean

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Speaker 5: I tweeted this out immediately and most people were hitting

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Speaker 5: back with that there was a dumb play, blah blah,

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Speaker 5: and I went into it. If they decided to go

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Speaker 3: I mean that that's maybe not what I would have done,

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Speaker 5: Understand it because you would have got two plays, two

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Speaker 5: shots at the end zone. You're taking a chance of

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Speaker 5: an interception in the zone, yes you have. You're not

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Speaker 5: going to get a pass interference call. It's not not

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Speaker 4: But what you do have, Mike is you have three

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Speaker 5: So there's a couple of strategies. So there's that strategy,

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Speaker 5: and I would have been fine with it. Now and

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Speaker 5: everybody's saying, throw an out route they have the out

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Speaker 5: routes happen. So and I got, I got my my

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Speaker 5: my future son in law. Ben Broniker sitting there watching

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Speaker 5: the games again. He was a former tight end for

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Speaker 5: the Bears for four years. And listen, I played defense,

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Speaker 5: he was a receiver on offense. And I said, Ben,

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Speaker 5: what is there?

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 5: Because he was saying, we sit there and we talk

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Speaker 5: as the game's going, he said, outside the recovered, he said,

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Speaker 5: he told me that what the play was. They have

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Speaker 5: a play where you throw a slant over the middle

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Speaker 3: Give the ball to the ref and you get another play.

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Speaker 5: So running and or passing the ball up the middle

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Speaker 5: is a fine strategy because there's nobody in the middle

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Speaker 5: of the field. And so why Dak ran for seventeen yards?

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Speaker 5: The problem was Dak only needs should have just run

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Speaker 5: for ten yards. That's where you need the awareness of

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Speaker 5: I got fourteen seconds, how long has it taken me

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Speaker 5: to run? Slide at ten get to the thirty yard line,

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Speaker 5: twenty nine yard line, right in that area.

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Speaker 3: There, get up, there's the problem.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is where and again I'm not getting

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Speaker 5: anybody's head. I don't know what was said. Remember this

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the discussion was. Get down, get

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Speaker 5: and others have done it too. What Larry Fitzgerald does

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Speaker 5: in these situations? How many times do you see it?

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Speaker 5: He catches the ball, he goes down, he runs to

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Speaker 5: the referee and gives him the ball. Dak needed to

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Speaker 5: get up and find the referee who was running to

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Speaker 5: the ball. He was a little far behind the play,

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Speaker 5: but he was running to the ball, and give.

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Speaker 3: That ref the ball.

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Speaker 5: You cannot start a play until the ref touches the ball.

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Speaker 3: He handed the ball to his center, who put the

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Speaker 3: ball down. That they could do that all day, it

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Speaker 3: doesn't matter. The ref has to spot the ball.

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Speaker 5: So Dak should have got up, given it to the

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Speaker 5: referee who was running in from behind. Let the ref

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Speaker 5: spot it and kill it, and they would have had

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Speaker 5: time for one more play. So I have no problem

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Speaker 5: with the play. If you wanted to throw two from

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Speaker 5: with that, But I didn't have a problem with play.

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Speaker 5: Other teams have done it, whether it's running the quarterback

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Speaker 5: middle is wide open. They're giving you the middle because

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Speaker 5: you don't have timeouts left, and then you run a

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Speaker 5: kill play. They would have had time left had I

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Speaker 5: executed that the right.

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Speaker 3: Way, all right?

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Speaker 2: So whose fault is that, Mike? Is that on Dak?

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Speaker 2: That on Kellen Moore? Is that on Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 4: Well, Mike McCarthy's the head coach, Mike, So I think

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Speaker 4: a lot of people that's why they're going, You're not

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Speaker 4: gonna get rid of Dak Prescott today.

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Speaker 2: You suck him to a massive contract.

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Speaker 4: You're not up and comer. And Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy.

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Speaker 4: This has followed Mike McCarthy around his entire career.

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Speaker 2: It was the worst place.

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Speaker 4: It was the worst case scenario playing out for McCarthy.

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Speaker 4: When you criticize the guy for clock management issues and

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Speaker 4: and then you see a play out a big spot at.

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Speaker 2: Home against the Niners. It's hard not the false hit,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 3: So that's the thing. It wouldn't be on this one play.

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Speaker 5: If there's a history there and this adds to it,

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Speaker 5: then it obviously is going to raise a red flag

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Speaker 5: for you. But I'm not putting all the blame on

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Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy on this one.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: Again, I don't know did Mike McCarthy, did Kellen Moore?

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Speaker 5: Did anybody in the huddle? Did anybody? Because this was

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Speaker 5: obviously a planned play. This was a planned play because

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Speaker 5: the outsides were covered. So there's always discussion on this

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Speaker 5: that we have no timeouts of what you need to

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Speaker 5: do once you go down, and what they did was

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Speaker 5: completely wrong. So you can go ahead and you can

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Speaker 5: point out everyone's going to look at McCarthy. I get it,

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Speaker 5: But DAK should know as well. Everybody on that team

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Speaker 5: should know. Okay, the center should know. You can't just

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Speaker 3: Hall he's not. So you gotta know what to do

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Speaker 5: You want to put it on McCarthy, Some goes on him,

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Speaker 5: Kellen Moore, DAK players got to know all the times

445
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Speaker 5: when we hear, oh, that's the coach man, the coach.

446
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Speaker 4: Man.

447
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,439
Speaker 5: Listen, these players are professional football players who need to

448
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,119
Speaker 5: know what they're supposed to do. Listen, we learned this

449
00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 5: in little league. You teach your kids, what's the situation

450
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,320
Speaker 5: if the ball has hit the year before the ball's

451
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,640
Speaker 5: even pitched. What do you do if the ball comes

452
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Speaker 5: to me? Where am I going with the ball? I mean,

453
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Speaker 5: this is the same thing. You know, you're running in

454
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 5: the middlefield. You know you have no timeouse what's the

455
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 5: best procedure so we can kill a play and have

456
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Speaker 5: more time? And they they completely botch that.

457
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's attention to detail, Mike.

458
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Speaker 4: It's something that would never happen to, you know, an

459
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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers led team. It would happen to a Belichick team,

460
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Speaker 4: It would happen to a Tom Brady led team. It

461
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 4: just and so that's why it's kind of hard to

462
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Speaker 4: get past that you have this talented team, right they

463
00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 4: coached a lot of people felt like should have been

464
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Speaker 4: the head coach in the first place.

465
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, at Jerry, because you know, Jerry wants

466
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Speaker 2: to be in charge.

467
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Speaker 4: He has to hire kind of like these puppets like

468
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 4: McCarthy at Jason Garrett, And I'm telling you right now,

469
00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 4: he is never going to win the Super Bowl. He

470
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Speaker 4: wants to win before he passes away if he keeps trotting. Now,

471
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Speaker 4: coaches like this, Mike already, Yeah.

472
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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just forget. Also, fourteen penalties. Yeah yeah, fourteen penalties.

473
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Speaker 3: That's coaching.

474
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Speaker 4: But Mike, I thought the big thing, Mike, you'll appreciate

475
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 4: this as a as a former defensive lineman. I thought

476
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 4: the big story in that game up until the final drive,

477
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 4: in that final play was the Niners defensive line just

478
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 4: destroyed the Cowboys offensive line.

479
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 5: I'll tell you who struggle, Tyron Smith and left backle Now,

480
00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 5: he has been missing time with injuries, but he struggled

481
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 5: even when Bosa went out of the game. Yes, they

482
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 5: were getting pressure on Dak and he was getting hit.

483
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Speaker 5: And listen, that's one of the statements the forty nine

484
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Speaker 5: ers made a couple of years ago that they were

485
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Speaker 5: going to get a heavy D line, not heavy by weight,

486
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Speaker 5: but heavy as far as numbers to be able to

487
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Speaker 5: have a rotation. Just think a couple of years ago.

488
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Speaker 5: That D line also had to Forest Buckner, who they

489
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Speaker 5: traded the Colts, and he's been in All Pro since

490
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 5: he's been traded to the Colts. I mean crazy, They

491
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Speaker 5: went in with that mentality and because of that depth.

492
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Speaker 5: So even though Bosa was gone, they were still getting pressure.

493
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Speaker 5: They did a great job. Five sacks on Dak and

494
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,479
Speaker 5: again when you give a sack total, usually you can

495
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Speaker 5: double that for the number of times the quarterback was hit,

496
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Speaker 5: let alone sacked.

497
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Speaker 3: So I think Sam Franz and listen, so.

498
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Speaker 5: Many people called it saying this was if there was

499
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Speaker 5: going to be a road up set, this was going

500
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Speaker 5: to be it because I mean, Elijah Moore look at

501
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Speaker 5: that situation with with I mean, I'm sorry Elijah Mitchell,

502
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 5: the rookie, you know, getting the chance, you know, and producing.

503
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,719
Speaker 5: You know, he had just he had close to one

504
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 5: hundred yards in this game, but the year that he had,

505
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Speaker 5: so I mean, kudos to them and Deebo Samuel.

506
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Speaker 3: Let me tell you, he may not he may not.

507
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Speaker 5: Want to be talking about how he's a running back

508
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 5: as well. When it comes to pay time, you get

509
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 5: paid way more as a wide receiver, so he may

510
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Speaker 5: want to stay as that in case the franchise franchise

511
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Speaker 5: tag starts to come into play, because we went through

512
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Speaker 5: this with Jimmy Graham when he was with New Orleans

513
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 5: when he was trying to be a wide receiver instead of,

514
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Speaker 5: you know, a tight end, which I understood, but yeah, Deebo,

515
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Speaker 5: be the wide receiver and get that money.

516
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Speaker 4: Okay, it'll be right. That dude has just been money.

517
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Speaker 4: Yes he is. He's a special player. A couple of

518
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Speaker 4: things here, Mikey Andges threw up in the chat. Three

519
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 4: teams have not gone to the NFC Championship Game since

520
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Speaker 4: nineteen ninety five.

521
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Speaker 2: Shington Lions in Dallas.

522
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Speaker 5: I mean, the talented they they and this weird as

523
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Speaker 5: we're sitting in the room again, that's with Romo, Dak Prescott,

524
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Speaker 5: Dak Prescott, des Bryant, Zeke Elliott's we.

525
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Speaker 2: Just keep thinking of the best offensive line I've ever seen.

526
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Speaker 5: I mean, and we know that old line isn't what

527
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Speaker 5: what it was. Zach Martin is still best guard the game.

528
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Speaker 5: He's going to walk into the Hall of Fame. Tyron

529
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Speaker 5: Smith obviously was was nicked year with the injuries and

530
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Speaker 5: and that cost him. Their left guard was getting owned

531
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Speaker 5: in this game. So this was this was a struggle

532
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Speaker 5: for them for a team as talented as are, so

533
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Speaker 5: what a disappointment. But boy, what a what a game

534
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Speaker 5: by San Franz.

535
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Speaker 3: Jimmy G.

536
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Speaker 5: You know, every everybody wants to get rid of him,

537
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 5: everybody wants to dismiss him.

538
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 3: And how quick do we get Trey Lance in there?

539
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 3: And I get it.

540
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Speaker 5: He's been nicked up. He makes some bad throws. There's

541
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Speaker 5: a whole bad overthrow on the interception, terrible miss.

542
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Speaker 4: He never threw absolutely was but you know here he is.

543
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Speaker 3: Man.

544
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Speaker 2: That was a touchdown Mike.

545
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Speaker 3: Ye Oh yeah, yeah.

546
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Speaker 5: That was reminiscent of the old Super Bowl, right the overthrow.

547
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 5: You're going, oh God, no, Jimmy, don't do that. But

548
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Speaker 5: you know what he had. He had a pretty damn

549
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 5: nice game. I mean, didn't throw for a ton of yards,

550
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 5: no touchdowns, and he did have an interception. So you

551
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 5: look at it, you're like, wait, it wasn't a great game.

552
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Speaker 5: Did enough, you know, make enough passes. You have Deebo

553
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Speaker 5: Samuel doing his thing. What he ran the ball ten

554
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Speaker 5: times you know in this one average over seven yards

555
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Speaker 5: a run. I mean, just really, they're a very very good,

556
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 5: complimentary offensive team.

557
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Speaker 4: Jimmy G didn't do enough, Dac didn't. Uh well, Jimmy

558
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Speaker 4: G did just enough. Dak's gon do enough. Okay, that's

559
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,920
Speaker 4: how it goes to the NFL with winning.

560
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Speaker 2: And losing again, Jimmy g.

561
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Speaker 3: Wanted it more.

562
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.

563
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Speaker 2: Oh by the way, oh, by the.

564
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Speaker 5: Way, this Dallas defense, we had been talking up no

565
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 5: sacks in this game.

566
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no sacks.

567
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but Mike, twenty three points should be enough at

568
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Speaker 4: home with that offense. It should like giving up twenty

569
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 4: three should be enough where Dallas should be able to

570
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Speaker 4: win that game.

571
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Speaker 3: So Dallas averages more than that.

572
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean the Dallas So you got to

573
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Speaker 5: give we want to rip Dallas for not getting it done,

574
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 5: which which you can, but you also got to give

575
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Speaker 5: San Fran defense and defense from credit as well.

576
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 4: So, Mike, just before we move on here, what do

577
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 4: you think is going to happen to Mike McCarthy Because

578
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Speaker 4: this like the pressure that the Cowboys organization must feel,

579
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 4: and Jerry Jones is the reason that they feel this pressure. Okay,

580
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 4: because Jerry's always boom or bust, and you know, you

581
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Speaker 4: have this collection of talent. You got to win with

582
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Speaker 4: this collection of talent.

583
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Speaker 2: It's been two years.

584
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Speaker 4: He's done that before he fired Chan Gailey after two years,

585
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 4: he said he regrets fiery Chan Gailey after just two seasons.

586
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: What happens here with Mike McCarthy.

587
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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, no one, Jerry Jones, it wouldn't be

588
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Speaker 5: shocking if he makes a move. What will be the

589
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 5: interesting will be is what happens with Kellen Moore when

590
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 5: a new coach comes in. If it's not Kellen Moore,

591
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 5: if he doesn't get elevated, then just keep Kellen Moore.

592
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Speaker 5: Because I've said this on this this pot and many others.

593
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Speaker 5: You change that, you change, start changing coordinators. Now you're

594
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,479
Speaker 5: changing the defensive scheme, the offensive scheme, and individual coaches

595
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 5: as well, and the whole thing changes. Now there may

596
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 5: be some that say, maybe that's what the Cowboys need,

597
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 5: but they had one of the they have one of

598
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 5: the you know, most productive offenses from scoring from yardage

599
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 5: and but they're just too inconsistent. So that's something to

600
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 5: work on as a consistency. And it's a head scratcher

601
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 5: the but the bad mistakes don't help. All those penalties

602
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 5: don't help. And and Mikey I heard just say, you

603
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 5: know that's on coaching again, I don't always buy that.

604
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 5: Now is some on coaching, yes, but these are professional

605
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 5: athletes out there professionals. You know what if they're holding

606
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 5: or they're you know, it's not the Is it the

607
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 5: coach's fault that a guy moves before the snap illegal procedure.

608
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna yell at Mike McCarthy for that. I'm

609
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 5: gonna yell at the guy in the field who did it.

610
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 5: If a guy jumps off sides to me that, you know,

611
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 5: everyone want to say, well, in practice that they're not

612
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 5: you know, if they do that, they're not you know, disciplining.

613
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: Enough or whatever.

614
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 5: Man, you got to put some responsibility on the player.

615
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,959
Speaker 5: They're the ones out on the field that are supposed

616
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 5: to execute, that are moving before the snap, that are

617
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 5: jumping off sides, that are getting themselves in bad position

618
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 5: and holding or bad position and pass interference.

619
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Speaker 3: So that's another one.

620
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 5: I don't buy a lot to say, oh, there's a

621
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 5: lot of penalties, Oh, that's that's coaching.

622
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: I think there's blame with the whole right.

623
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Speaker 2: They were the most penalized team in the NFL this year.

624
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 5: I know, listen, I understand that, but I'm not going

625
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 5: to sit there and point it Mike McCarthy and said, boy,

626
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 5: that's your fault that that guy is jumping off side,

627
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 5: or that lineman is moving, or that lineman held. I mean,

628
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 5: you could put some blame on it, but like anything else,

629
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Speaker 5: I don't think blame goes to one person in a

630
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 5: lot of things that goes around. And these are as,

631
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 5: I said, pro ballplayers who have to accept the responsibility

632
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 5: on the field for what they're doing.

633
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: I love that McCarthy. If you heard, if you heard

634
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 4: some mms, that was Billy. We'll get to them in

635
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 4: just a second. That's Billy thinking marited.

636
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 6: Well, you know I'm taking I'm taking them looking around

637
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 6: and you know who might be out there, Well, that

638
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 6: might be you know who's out there?

639
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 2: Jason Garrett available again? Yeah, little reunion? How about that?

640
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 3: Do you ever think about muting his microphone?

641
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson's out there too, he's the host. He agents

642
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 2: to pick it. I know.

643
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

644
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 2: I love that McCarthy's getting criticized.

645
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 4: The one game Mike McCarthy had the fall up in

646
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 4: a timeouts with another three minutes ago.

647
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: He's getting killed like he's never been killed.

648
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: Me. It's crazy. I'm calling it now. I'm calling it now.

649
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 7: Jerry Jones fires McCarthy and promotes Kellen Moore. Because he

650
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 7: doesn't want to lose him to another team.

651
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 5: Well, I mean it's not and you're right, it's about

652
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 5: not about losing him to another team. It's about then

653
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,959
Speaker 5: having to change the offense. As I said, now, now

654
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 5: you have to change the entire offense. So you either

655
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 5: elevate Kellen Moore or you tell the new neck head

656
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 5: coach Kellen Moore has to stay. Now, Kellen Moore may

657
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 5: be like, you know, I don't want to go through this.

658
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 5: You know, if he's going to get head coaching interviews,

659
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 5: you know, then that may force Jerry's hand if he

660
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 5: wants to make a change to elevate Kellen Moore. So

661
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 5: we'll see. I mean, there's as as usual. You know,

662
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 5: there's usually a quarter of the league that has to

663
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 5: fill slots for head coaches.

664
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: Mike so San Francisco like that.

665
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 4: Listen Garoppolo playing that game making a work against green Bay,

666
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 4: not at Lambo, not against that quarterback.

667
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: I don't think, oh.

668
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 5: Listen, I mean, listen, they're going to be heavy underdogs

669
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 5: in this game. San fran going to green Bay. How

670
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 5: cold you know it's going to be. Green Bay is

671
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 5: a better team overall, I think, But I think I

672
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 5: think San Fran is a good game.

673
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

674
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 5: Somebody has to play out of their shoes a little more, right,

675
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 5: I mean they played all well together from the rushing.

676
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 5: I mean the game one hundred and seventy yards on

677
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 5: the ground. Yeah, I don't know if that's going to

678
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 5: happen out in Green Bay, Green Bay, but.

679
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,959
Speaker 4: It has to be kind of the same game plan, Mike,

680
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 4: where it's keep airon off the field, run the.

681
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: Ball, yeah, yeah, up the block right.

682
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking at at time of possession. It wasn't

683
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 5: any It was a much seven minutes difference that San

684
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 5: Fran held the ball. But yeah, anytime you can keep

685
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 5: a and off the field, you'll be in good shape.

686
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 5: But yeah, they'll be pretty heavy underdogs in this, i'd imagine.

687
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,959
Speaker 4: So, Mike, you had Mahomes doing Mahomes type things and

688
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 4: Brady doing Brady type things, and those teams advanced. The

689
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 4: other big game of the weekend was the game that

690
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 4: you were on you were calling. It was the Raiders

691
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 4: at Cincinnati. And I've been saying this all year, Mike,

692
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 4: that the Bengals have become and the Raiders had chances

693
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 4: to win that game or tie that game.

694
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: At the end.

695
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 4: A very fun game and exciting game. But the Bengals

696
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 4: with three draft picks Joe Mix and Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow,

697
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 4: they have changed their entire organization, okay, And so they

698
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 4: are a.

699
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: Young, exciting team that's.

700
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 4: Only going to get better, Mike, and I'm super excited

701
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 4: to see how they perform on the road against Tennessee

702
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 4: next weekend.

703
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, listen, I this was a game that Cincinnati was

704
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 5: in control of, but man, the Raiders were just hanging around,

705
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 5: you know, down by seven, down by ten, down by seven.

706
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 5: You know, there were eight field goals in this game,

707
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 5: four by each team. The kickers were all money. But

708
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 5: because of the field goals, Cincey couldn't pull away, and

709
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 5: the Raiders couldn't like get close enough where they didn't

710
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 5: need like at least a touchdown to tie, because they weren't.

711
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 5: The teams weren't able to put it in the end

712
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,239
Speaker 5: zone enough. But listen, I'm with you, and and you know,

713
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 5: we had talked about this and the fact that, you know,

714
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 5: are the Bengals gonna be hearing the ghosts of Bengals past,

715
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 5: you know, because Burrow grew up not too far from there,

716
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 5: he knows of how bad that team has been. But I,

717
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 5: as I said, I've loved his his attitude the whole

718
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 5: year when they swept the Steelers and swept the Ravens. Hey,

719
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 5: we expect to do this. You know, this is a

720
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 5: new era for them, and Burrow has been so consistent

721
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,959
Speaker 5: in saying this, and I mean, understand what they have.

722
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 5: They are the first team in NFL history, which is

723
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 5: a hell of a long history, to have a four

724
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 5: thousand yard passer, a thousand yard rusher and two thousand

725
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 5: yard receivers.

726
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: Under twenty five. I mean, under think about that.

727
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 5: So they keep that team together, and it's gonna cost

728
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 5: him money and they're gonna have to be good capologists.

729
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 5: And I know sometimes the Bengals aren't thought of as

730
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 5: smart teams, but man, they have the pieces there, good

731
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 5: tight end as well. I mean, so I really love

732
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 5: the direction they're going and they were in control of

733
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 5: this game. And you do have to get the Raiders

734
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 5: credit for hanging around and listen, the Raiders did catch

735
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,239
Speaker 5: a break on that touchdown where Burrow rolled right and

736
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 5: was right by the out of bounds threw a touchdown.

737
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 5: I mean, the officials in this game where there were

738
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 5: other situations as well. You guys that it was. They

739
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 5: just looked like they weren't in great control of this game.

740
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 5: And then after where we found out they're done in

741
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 5: the postseason now because of some of the mistakes they made.

742
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 5: But on that touchdown, and that's a big play, you know,

743
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 5: in a game that's closed since you get the touchdown,

744
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 5: and there was an inadvertent whistle. Now, I'll say this,

745
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 5: I didn't hear the whistle at first, but in replay

746
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 5: you can hear the whistle. It was blown like just

747
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 5: after he threw the ball. And the official talking to

748
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 5: the pool reporters after the game said it was blown

749
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 5: after the touchdown catchers made, which is completely wrong. No

750
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 5: shot that had no shot that was right. But I

751
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 5: will also say this, and I heard some other former

752
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 5: ballplayers saying it as well. To me, it didn't affect

753
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 5: the outcome of the play.

754
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: It didn't.

755
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 5: The whistle wasn't blown early enough where everybody just stopped.

756
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 5: Everybody played the play and then it was actually the

757
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 5: Raiders thought Burrow stepped out of bounds.

758
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 3: They didn't even think about the whistle at first. They

759
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: thought he stepped out of bounds.

760
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 5: But it wasn't adverting whistle, so by rule, that play

761
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 5: should have been blown dead and they should have not

762
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 5: had a touchdown on that play.

763
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 3: And who knows.

764
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 5: I saw a bunch of Raider fans the next day

765
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 5: is going to the airport man. They were hot about it,

766
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 5: and I don't blame them, But again, you have chances

767
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 5: in that game to get yourself back in it. So

768
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 5: the Raiders did a nice job of giving themselves those chances.

769
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 5: But Cincinnati and I don't know if they'll, you know,

770
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 5: win the next round. I don't know what they'll do

771
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 5: in Tennessee, but it wouldn't shock me because they're big

772
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 5: play Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow. The connection they have

773
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 5: on those sideline routes back shoulder.

774
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: Throws amazing are unreal.

775
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean because the cover if you feel bad

776
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 5: for the dB, he is in great coverage, but it's

777
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 5: almost like Jamar wants to let him be in good

778
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 5: coverage and ahead of him a little bit because he

779
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 5: knows it's going to be a a shoulder throw. And

780
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just on a die. It's unreal. They're

781
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 5: they're fantastic, So I put nothing past this big playability.

782
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 3: Team.

783
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 5: They did get some players hurt in this game. Hendrickson

784
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 5: their pass rusher, he left the game. Ogun joeb Be

785
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 5: the d tackle. I think he got an achilles. I

786
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 5: don't think he's going to be around anymore. So they

787
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 5: were one of the teams. How about this stat they're

788
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 5: starting eleven opening day on defense. Was the same starting

789
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 5: eleven in this playoff game.

790
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: But they ended up.

791
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 5: Losing them like three starters in the game to injury.

792
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 5: So we'll see who's backing healthy for the next round.

793
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 4: But Mike, you're not gonna be surprised if Joe Burrow,

794
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 4: jabar Cha, Joe Mixon they go and beat that Tennessee team,

795
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 4: because I don't think a lot even though the Tennessee

796
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 4: Titans are the number one seed, I don't think a

797
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 4: lot of people trust that team.

798
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 3: And they agree. Now, well, they have Dereck Henry back,

799
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 3: but they've.

800
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: Asked they will. Actually they've they've.

801
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 5: Been running the ball pretty well without Derrick Henry. You know,

802
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 5: Foreman has been doing pretty well. So they've been running

803
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 5: the ball well. You know, can they have both receivers healthy,

804
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 5: you know, between Julio Jones and A J. Brown, who

805
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 5: have been up and down through the year. So that

806
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 5: was the whole thing we said about them just getting

807
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 5: the playoffs and be healthy. Well shit, they got in

808
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 5: the playoffs as the number one seed and are getting healthy.

809
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 5: So that's a team that that's one of those you

810
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 5: want to not have Cincinnati make a big play, run

811
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 5: the hell out of the ball and keep them all

812
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 5: on the sideline. You don't have the ball for thirty

813
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 5: five thirty eight minutes, you know, and don't have those

814
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 5: guys on the field.

815
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 4: My two teams that we've talked about, we know they've

816
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 4: been contenders all year. They were contenders before the season,

817
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 4: and they're certainly contenders now. And the AFC matchups are fantastic.

818
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 4: We just talked about Tennessee it Cincinnattie. But you have

819
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 4: the Bills who were waiting. It was like a revenge

820
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 4: game because the Patriots it betterest them in Buffalo and

821
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: McDermott was not taking his foot off the battle against

822
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, especially after all the praise Belichick got after

823
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 4: that game. So the Bills took care of their business

824
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 4: against the Patriots. I still have no idea if Mac

825
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: Jones is any good at playing quarterback. The Chiefs looked

826
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: like the Chiefs for maybe the first time this year,

827
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 4: like really looked like the Chiefs. Five touchdowns for Mahomes,

828
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: Kelsey threw a touchdown. They were having fun out there.

829
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 4: And now you have what I think, Mike, is the

830
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 4: best matchup of the year. You have the Bills in

831
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 4: Chiefs with the right in Kansas City at Arrowhead, with

832
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 4: the right to go to the AFC Championship game. What

833
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 4: a fun game that's going to be.

834
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 5: And I know if everybody can choose, they'd rather have

835
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 5: this game as the AFC Championship game, right.

836
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: Teams, Although give me Chiefs and Bengals. I'm fine. That

837
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: was a pretty good regular season game.

838
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 5: I agree, I completely agree. But I mean, listen to

839
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 5: the Bills. You're right, they were going to take their

840
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 5: four off the gas. Everybody knew it, even Bill and

841
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 5: I have no problem with it. But again, Josh Allen

842
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 5: was dangerous with his legs average a eleven yards to

843
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 5: carry on six rushes. Throwing the ball obviously, well just

844
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 5: four incompletions, but what was it twenty twenty nine runs,

845
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 5: twenty five passes. I mean, they split it beautifully at

846
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 5: Knox's beaker really stepping up as a tight end for them.

847
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 5: Diggs has been money since they got him there, so

848
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 5: they got it going on in the defense. Their defense,

849
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 5: this has been one of the few teams ranked up

850
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 5: there in the top ten, top five on both sides

851
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 5: of the ball. But they've been a little inconsistent during

852
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 5: the year. That's why we have been some head scratches

853
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 5: with them and Casey some but they're running rounding out

854
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 5: into form when you need to, and that's the playoffs.

855
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: So this was a non game.

856
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 5: And mac Jones listen, mac Jones, as I said, early

857
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 5: on in the year, had the help of a great defense,

858
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 5: holding teams to seventeen points a game, so he could

859
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 5: come along as a quarterback. They never really had to

860
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 5: throw themselves back into games. But late in the season

861
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 5: more got put on his shoulders and he's a rookie again,

862
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 5: and I'm not saying that in a critical way. He's

863
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 5: a rookie. When more Guy put on his shoulders, he

864
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 5: started throwing interceptions. He threw two in a couple of

865
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 5: games back to back. He threw two in this one.

866
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 5: So when he's I think he's good, we'll see what

867
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 5: the ceiling is.

868
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 3: But he was.

869
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 5: He just wasn't ready to have it all thrown on

870
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 5: his shoulders to say, all right, bring us back into

871
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 5: this game. So we'll see what changes they make. We

872
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 5: know they have the Mac Jones will be the quarterback,

873
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 5: so what do they make around them? But the Bills

874
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 5: are phenomenal? How about and Kansas City? This game was

875
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 5: zip zip after one quarter. The only way that Pittsburgh

876
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 5: could win. They were doing it. Not only was it

877
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 5: nothing nothing, but then the first score was a defensive score.

878
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, so this was.

879
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 4: The only way they had a chance to finally.

880
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 5: Jaz yeah, god, but that this was the way they

881
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 5: were gonna win. But then they just started being out

882
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 5: on the field more and more. And in the second

883
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 5: and third quarter. The Chiefs scored thirty five points in

884
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 5: those two quarters, and just once they got two scores up,

885
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 5: you knew it was over because Pittsburgh just doesn't have

886
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 5: the ability to throw themselves back into the game.

887
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: So that was the swan song for Ben Roethlisberger.

888
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: All right, just quickly and we'll get to tonight's game.

889
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 4: The Buccaneers, Brady continuing to marvel like they I mean, Mike,

890
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 4: no Antonio Brown, no Chris Godway, no Leonard Fournette, No,

891
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 4: Ronald Jones, no problem.

892
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 3: At what?

893
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 5: At what point did you all The biggest question I

894
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 5: had in this game? Now boy ended up making it

895
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 5: a two score game, But why the hell was Gronk

896
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 5: and Brady's still in the game. I mean, Brady hates

897
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 5: coming out, hats coming out. Okay, so you have maybe

898
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 5: a battle there, but Gronk at times is held together

899
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 5: by Duck tape and chicken wire.

900
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: He's great, I would say.

901
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 4: I would say at this point, Mike, Gronk has never

902
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 4: been more valuable to Tom Brady's success ever in the

903
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 4: history together because everyone else is out, they didn't need

904
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 4: him in the second half.

905
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have played him.

906
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 5: And worst tries to come back on the ankle, and

907
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 5: luckily they took him out vents and the center went

908
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 5: out but never missed a play. I mean, I was like,

909
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 5: holy shit, you know Tom, and I know Tom doesn't

910
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 5: want to come out. I get it, but man, at

911
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 5: some point, try and have a heart to heart, say Tom,

912
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 5: could you? I mean, you know, and that game started

913
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 5: getting chippy at the end of the Eagles and I

914
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 5: think it was I think it was my wife or

915
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 5: Mike that goes if this was back in the day,

916
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 5: and this was your eagle team getting thumped like this,

917
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 5: and they kept the other quarterback. And I said, our

918
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 5: whole mindset were to change, it would have been get

919
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 5: to the quarterback and drive him into the ground. Back

920
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 5: when you're allowed to land on him, allowed to hit

921
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 5: him and everything, and it would have been try and

922
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 5: nail him. I mean, it just would have been pissed

923
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 5: off because you're getting your ass kicked out there, and

924
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 5: Philly was getting their ass kicked out there. But that

925
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 5: was the biggest thing to me, is my god, why

926
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 5: was he in the game. So now they take on

927
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 5: the winner of of you know, the Rams and the Cardinals. Well,

928
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 5: and that's the game I'm going to be calling, by

929
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 5: the way, I mean out down in Tampa, so at

930
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 5: least I'll be warm, so not not in Green Bay.

931
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 4: So what do you think about tonight's game? I think

932
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 4: a lot of people will expect this to be a

933
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 4: really good game. A lot of pressure on Matthew Stafford.

934
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 3: You know what this is.

935
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 5: This is one of those which team shows up Stafford

936
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 5: throwing pick six, wants it more?

937
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: I don't even know not who wants it more?

938
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 5: Who makes less mistakes again, Stafford with the pick sixes

939
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 5: or the forty one touchdowns. Kyler Murray, how dangerous is

940
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 5: he with his legs as I've been pounding all year.

941
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 3: I think he needs to do that more and more

942
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 3: and more.

943
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 5: X factor in this game to me could be Cam Akers,

944
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 5: who came back in the last week of the season

945
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 5: from that achilles. He'd missed everything this year, came back,

946
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 5: got a little more, you know, got to play in time,

947
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 5: knock a little rushed off. Let's see how much he's

948
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 5: used tonight, especially coming out of the backfield. So along

949
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 5: with Sony Michelle, you know, two good threats there, and

950
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 5: then with Cam running the ball as well. So to me,

951
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 5: he's kind of the X factor. I think the Rams

952
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 5: are the better team. I think they're the better team

953
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 5: because of their defense. But again we've seen at times

954
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 5: this defense with unbelievable names of Ronald and Ramsey and

955
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 5: von Miller, you know, give up a lot of points

956
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 5: at times. So again which one shows. But I'll put

957
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 5: more of my trust in that defense. So that's why

958
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 5: I would lean toward the Rams.

959
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: I love the smirk you have. More thinks the Rams

960
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: want it more. Factors got not an A level performance,

961
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame performance. But you ate us?

962
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can I keep coming back for more?

963
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: You want it more, You're addicted to you love us?

964
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 3: Just say I wanted more? Well done? That was well

965
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 3: well placed? Is rich?

966
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 4: Is rich Forsaci getting fired by if they make one

967
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 4: of the Raiders coaches?

968
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 3: Okay, he is?

969
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 5: I I do not believe, you know. I think they're

970
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 5: going to move on. I think they'll move on from him.

971
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a stupid one more play and he's the

972
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: head coach. I know.

973
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: Been amazing, what teams Look?

974
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 4: Did you see Derek Carr apologize to him after the

975
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: game like he knew.

976
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 5: Let me just say it was very cool to be

977
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 5: in Cincinnati a team of Their last playoff win was

978
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 5: actually and if you guys know this, their last playoff

979
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 5: win was against was when Bo Jackson had the injury

980
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 5: that ended his career the ninety season, the ninety one

981
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 5: playoffs when they beat the Raiders and Bo Jackson got

982
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 5: hurt his hip in that game. That was their last win.

983
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 5: They've lost eighth straight. It's been horrific in that city

984
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 5: to see that city celebrate. And I have a brother

985
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 5: in law, my wife's sister, Tracy's husband, Brian Burke, he

986
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 5: has been part of that thirty year just just every

987
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 5: year getting their head beat in. And he was out

988
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 5: in that crowd and I was thinking to him at

989
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 5: the end of the game, going, my god, how cool

990
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 5: is it for all these fans finally to get over

991
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 5: a hump with a young team, you know, not a

992
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 5: team you know, like the Raiders had five guys on defense.

993
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 5: They signed a one year contracts like one year hits

994
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 5: to try and get it done. This is a team

995
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 5: that is going to be around in Cincinnati. I love

996
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 5: the fact that Zach Taylor, the young coach for the Bengals,

997
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 5: delivered a game ball to a local bar out in

998
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 5: Cincy that was packed with people. I mean, what a great,

999
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 5: great scene it was in Cincinnati.

1000
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: Mike, we'll have to run here.

1001
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 4: You're right, Zach tayl that was very cool. Al sudden

1002
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 4: he's a toast of the town because he got a quarterback.

1003
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 4: But anyway, but Mike, we will speak to you later

1004
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: on this week. We'll see. And by the way, I

1005
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: just got word from the Bills Sean McDermott is going

1006
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 4: to join us this week.

1007
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: Guys.

1008
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 4: He's friends with Golick. He likes Golick. He has to

1009
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 4: speak with Golick. They got a big game against the Chiefs.

1010
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: We'll also find out next time we speak, which could

1011
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 4: be in like ten hours, whether or not Mike McCarthy's

1012
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: the head coach or is it Jason Garrett. I'm with

1013
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 4: Billy Jason Garrett, the good old days.

1014
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 3: Before I leave.

1015
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 5: The big question is going to be, Stuart, are you

1016
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 5: going to be part of the Sean McDermott interview.

1017
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: I don't know yet. We'll see. I haven't broke that,

1018
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: not really up to him.

1019
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 4: Listen, I pitch all these as you Mike, Okay, one

1020
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 4: on one's to down with you, and you know, if

1021
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 4: I happen to be there, I'm there, And if they

1022
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 4: don't say anything, then I'll partake, you know.

1023
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 5: So is there going to be a McDermott or mcdernot

1024
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 5: yet McDermott.

1025
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 2: McDermott, how did we do?

1026
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 7: McDermott, So, yes is your answer?

1027
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 5: So is there any way that you could run the

1028
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 5: questions by me before mc.

1029
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: Do you want Billy to run his takes by yet?

1030
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 2: I mean, what's going on here?

1031
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 4: Well?

1032
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 5: I know at this point I know what takes are

1033
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 5: coming out of Billy's mouth, which every.

1034
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 2: One will piss you off.

1035
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 5: Mike, be right, how do I like Golic fuse today?

1036
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 3: Can I go? Now?

1037
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: You're a fuse lighter?

1038
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 4: Billy?

1039
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 2: It's a holiday once again? Out of here, tired of us?

1040
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: We love you, Mike?

1041
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: All right?

1042
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, whatever you're going to Tampa, you'll be in my

1043
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 4: our neck of the woods. Be a billy you want

1044
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 4: to hang out with us?

1045
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 3: I'll be warm. It was either Tampa or Kansas City.

1046
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 5: Now being at that Kansas City Bills game would have

1047
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 5: been something.

1048
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I am going to be warm in Tampa.

1049
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: Sop.

1050
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 4: Should we make a trip across the Cubs to hang

1051
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 4: out with a guy?

1052
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 3: Well?

1053
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 6: I was just thinking to guys, you know who might

1054
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 6: be there. If it's a playoff game, Chris Gronkowski might

1055
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 6: be there, Maybe Mojo be there. Maybe Mike could get

1056
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 6: flipped through a table that's on fire or something.

1057
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: You know that sounds like fun. You want to flip

1058
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: Billy through a table pretty much with fire.

1059
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 5: I want to use Billy to hit somebody. Matt note

1060
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 5: all right, goodbye, see it