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Speaker 1: At this He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 2: and Matt kicking off our number two here. It is

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Speaker 2: time for the Fantasy Football Focus right and we're in

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Speaker 2: good shape with our DFS team from the weekend. We

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Speaker 2: have one hundred and thirty two point two points pretty good,

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Speaker 2: pretty good, and we still have Dalton Kinka going tonight.

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Speaker 2: We're in the money in the contest that we're in

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Speaker 2: nice and I don't see us falling out of that.

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Speaker 2: There's some people behind.

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Speaker 3: Us that I mean obviously, I people have Josh Allen

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Speaker 3: and Diggs still remaining to play, and you know, some

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Speaker 3: of those big names.

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Speaker 2: But we're firmly we're firmly in the money right now,

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Speaker 2: and we should finish with a round I don't know,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty five. We're so least, yeah, somewhere

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Speaker 2: in that range. It should be good.

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Speaker 3: Five or six seven balls. Yeah, he's been good.

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Speaker 2: So we should be in good shape. We hit with

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Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on the cheap. That was nice.

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Speaker 2: On the cheap, fifty one hundred dollars. He was in

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Speaker 2: six point one percent of lineups. He had nineteen point

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Speaker 3: Tennessee might be an attractive team. Throw again, there's some

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Speaker 3: bad teams out there to you know, throw quarterbacks at.

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Speaker 2: Breece Hall was started in forty eight point five percent

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Speaker 2: of leagues. Yeah, he only had ten point five points,

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Speaker 2: so it didn't kill us because everybody had Yeah, everybody

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Speaker 2: had that one. We had Najie Harris, he was only

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Speaker 2: owned in ten point five percent of the Vale had

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Speaker 2: forty nine hundred dollars he put He put up eighteen

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Speaker 2: point six points. That was a we have some fires

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Speaker 2: here and he was one of them.

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Speaker 3: Makes sense. He scored over eighty yards. I mean he'd

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Speaker 3: a catcher two right, he.

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Speaker 2: Had three three? Yeah, yeah, so that worked out well.

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Speaker 3: You think his price will start going up, don't you think.

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Speaker 3: I think people if your owners have been so down

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Speaker 3: on they are.

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Speaker 2: If you remember Warren was just Warren was five thousand

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Speaker 2: dollars last week, Oie was forty nine hundred, you might

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Speaker 2: start seeing them both take up. But I think they

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Speaker 2: both keep the other prices down because there's two of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know who should be worth

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Speaker 3: more because Warren's gonna catch more balls. They both are

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Speaker 3: getting a lot of production obviously.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they keep running the ball like this. Who cares?

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Speaker 3: I said, would be interested in investing in them going forward? Though?

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Speaker 2: We had dk Metcalf in the lineup only three point

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Speaker 2: nine percent ownership. Wow, sixteen point eight points out of

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Speaker 2: him wasn't a fire game. It was good, but it was,

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Speaker 2: you know, good enough. We had a mon ros Saint Brown.

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Speaker 3: He's so consistent.

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Speaker 2: He was in forty five percent of league, so he

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Speaker 2: was highly owned. But he put up thirty three and

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Speaker 3: I mean, he was one pieces of that game.

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Speaker 2: That game was big, Yeah, huge. George Pickens three point

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Speaker 2: five percent ownership of fifty hundred dollars better him than

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Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson only.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Pickens three for forty five. If he'd gotten

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Speaker 3: One, true, he'd have been four or f worth it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for seventy three or something like that.

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Speaker 3: That had been been about what we paid for him. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I guess. Well, and they tried to get involved early on.

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Speaker 2: They paid fifty one hundred. Ye, we still have Dalton

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Speaker 2: Kink going tonight. We're Shad White at fe fifty eight

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Speaker 2: hundred dollars twenty three point six percent ownership, but seventeen

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Speaker 3: We pulled Evans out of our lineup from what I remember,

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Speaker 3: we think of our Bucks stacks and stuff, you know,

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Speaker 3: we had we were on the right track there in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, well, and then finally the Jets defense was

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Speaker 2: owned in thirty one point four percent of the leagues.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of surprised it was that high. But they

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Speaker 2: were the cheapest good options.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they were. They made a lot of sense to Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but how many points stand up with?

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Speaker 2: They end up with eight points?

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Speaker 3: It was fine.

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Speaker 2: So that's fine. So again we're in the money right now.

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Speaker 2: We should stay in the money. Fine we have let's

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Speaker 2: see here this week one, two, three, four, five, six,

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Speaker 2: six people with the same exact lineup as us.

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Speaker 3: Wow, funny how that happens a week after a week.

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Speaker 2: Same exact lineup.

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Speaker 3: Good for you guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm glad we were able to win some

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Speaker 2: people some money. Hopefully you were in some other contests

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Speaker 2: as well, and well.

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Speaker 3: Well yeahid gets you over the top.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you have, if you're not in the

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Speaker 2: money yet, you know, if you happen to be in

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Speaker 2: a contest where a lot of people played Justin Herbert

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Speaker 3: There were some Yeah, I'm sure we're going to go through.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure the passers.

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Speaker 2: Looking at the top passers this week, people were concerned

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Speaker 2: that Dak Prescott, well they might A they were going

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Speaker 2: to blow the Giants out and B they were going

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Speaker 2: to be up by so much that they would just

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Speaker 2: shut everything down like that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he didn't finish the game, but what's the difference.

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Speaker 2: He had four hundred and four yards and four touchdown

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Speaker 2: passes with an interception. Problem is they can't run the football.

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Speaker 2: Tony Pollard might be the biggest draft bust this year.

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Speaker 3: Even when they score this kind of points, too, doesn't

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Speaker 3: he doesn't chip in at all, He doesn't ship in

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Speaker 3: at all. I mean I was at the Rico Rico Daldell. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean he gets carries. Yeah, I mean, like it's

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Speaker 3: a problem with Paullard.

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Speaker 2: Gino Smith three sixty nine and two touchdowns. Kind of

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Speaker 2: knew that was happening against that Washington pass defense is awful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Washington in general just play a lot

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Speaker 3: of dudes from their games. Yeah yeah, and they throw

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Speaker 3: a lot, they run a lot of plays, and their

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Speaker 2: So people will look at that and there you'll have

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Speaker 2: people out there to say, We'll say that Sam Howe

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Speaker 2: is having a better season than Kenny Pickett, but they're

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Speaker 2: asked to totally opposite, completely different things. He's been impressive,

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Speaker 2: like he's been fine, but he's They throwed the ball

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Speaker 2: fifty times again. Yeah, he puts up three hundred yards

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Speaker 2: because they throw the ball fifty times a game.

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Speaker 3: This isn't fantasy related, but I mean I think they

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Speaker 3: have four wins. Yeah, they're not going to be in

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Speaker 3: the May and Williams sweep Steakes. I think he'd run

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Speaker 3: it back with him this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Draft to tackle, yeah somebody, Yeah, draft two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, drafts on the blocks and see what you got.

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Speaker 2: CJ. Stroud had three fifty six in a touchdown, did

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Speaker 2: lose two fumbles and throw an interception.

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Speaker 3: He's every week started though, now I think so. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: uh Burrow the border line every week starter. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: mean fantasy yea, yeah, yeah exactly.

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Speaker 2: Burrow had three forty seven and two touchdowns. But he

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Speaker 3: Their aw line let them down. Yeah, they didn't run

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Speaker 2: We got a good road golf game, yeah, tells which

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Speaker 2: tells me he can start your quarterbacks against the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: It was also stadium he played. I mean he's he

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Speaker 3: played it for the play at that stadium. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: and in a dome. I'm not super worried about road golf.

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Speaker 2: He had three thirty three and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: I got some pieces of that game.

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Speaker 2: Herbert had three twenty three and four touchdowns with an interception.

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Speaker 2: Howell had three twelve and three touchdowns. He was sacked

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Speaker 2: three more times and did lose a He had a fumble.

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Speaker 2: Rock Purty two ninety six and three touchdowns, was sacked twice.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love against the Steelers two eighty nine and two

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Speaker 2: touchdowns with two interceptions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you know, yeah, I mean he's better for fantasy

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Speaker 3: in the real world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of what he does every week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't run quite as much as you'd think, though.

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Speaker 2: No. Baker Mayfield was a two seventy eight and two touchdowns. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was in our line. Well, Josh Dobbs two sixty

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure I trust him, but it sounds like

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Speaker 3: Jefferson might be back.

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Speaker 2: The Saints got a little banged up on defensively in that.

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Speaker 3: Game, and since you're just kind of a mess as

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Speaker 3: a team, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is why he can't just trust so. Zach Wilson

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Speaker 2: threw for two sixty three, didn't have a he had

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Speaker 2: an interception. He was not good in that game.

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Speaker 3: No, he definitely was not. I mean, don't go run

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray threw for two forty nine but had an

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Speaker 2: won the game.

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Speaker 3: Mh. They got weapons. I think their offensive be good.

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Speaker 3: They featured McBride a lot. What's interesting to me about

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Speaker 3: Kyler is he's coming off a knee, but he ran

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Speaker 3: and moved great. Yeah, he looked rusty as a passer.

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Speaker 3: His running was better than his passing. Just NFL stuff,

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Speaker 3: not fantasy. So I think I'd throw him right back

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson thirteen of twenty three for two twenty three,

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Speaker 2: one touchdown, two interceptions, with sack three times. Are we

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Speaker 2: done now with this lamar MVP crap?

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Speaker 3: I think so at this point, at losing that game.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's not putting up remarkable is passing numbers.

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Speaker 2: He just isn't.

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Speaker 3: He's not putting up good fantasy numbers, even when they

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Speaker 3: score a ton of points.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, defensive scores, they're you know, they're doing stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: Nice year this Keaton Mitchell, dude, you know stuff like that,

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Speaker 3: you know, handoff in.

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Speaker 2: A long run, like he was far more productive at

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Speaker 2: both as a player and for fantasy in his in

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Speaker 2: his real MVP.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, Like he's not gonnaet to a

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Speaker 3: thousand yards rushing or.

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Speaker 2: Like you you could make a better argument that Dak

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Speaker 2: Prescott should be the MVP.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry to hear some of those rumble. Yeah, they

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Speaker 3: gotta be a good team, but he's much better numbers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's carrying the entire offics because they run

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Speaker 3: Su Yes.

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Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson twenty of thirty four for two thirteen, one touchdown,

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Speaker 2: one interception, four sacks. At one point he was one

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Speaker 2: for He was one first first nine first half.

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Speaker 3: It was two tail two halves for him first half

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Speaker 3: was awful. Second half he was didn't it had no incompletions,

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Speaker 3: but they were a lot of short, controlled throws. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: it didn't screw it up. It came back.

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Speaker 2: Levis nineteen of thirty nine, one hundred and ninety nine yards,

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Speaker 3: Their protection was horrific. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what

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Speaker 3: you do about him, but their O line is not

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Speaker 3: YEA would say it's a good spike week scoring. You know,

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Speaker 2: Devin Singletary led the way with thirty carries for one

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Speaker 2: David Montgomery twelve for one sixteen in a touchdown. He

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you definitely never see that coming. But Gibbs was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of a jay La Moore and Najie

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Speaker 3: The ball like I wouldn't think he would be the

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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs twenty seven for one sixteen didn't square out

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Speaker 3: No, Jacob just gets a ball time.

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Speaker 3: With this, who knows, but he's pretty valuable.

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Speaker 2: Jerome Ford had seventeen for one oh seven.

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Speaker 3: Hunt is involved and I'll dig into this more. Of course,

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Speaker 2: And then Jaylem Warren was the final one hundred. Drard

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Speaker 3: best running back in the whole league this week, and

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Speaker 3: Nausey was the ninth yeah doing the.

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Speaker 2: Job, doing the job. Christian McCaffrey just missed at sixteen

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Speaker 3: They did, And from what I understand, it's kind of funny,

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Speaker 2: Bijon Robinson twenty two for ninety five in a touchdown

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Speaker 2: And now I wanted to play the Bijon this week.

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Speaker 2: And I mean he was attractive in DFS, but you

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Speaker 3: this guy's got touch ball. Yeah, I mean, what we're

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Speaker 2: Ramandre Stevenson had twenty for eighty eight. His long run

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Speaker 3: He looks good. He's just got nothing around him and

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Speaker 3: Zeke's heavily.

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Speaker 2: That was all in the second half too, because they

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Speaker 2: didn't give him the ball in the first half. No,

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Speaker 2: he'd like to understand he likes six touches in the

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Speaker 3: There's no points. It's not like you're playing from behind.

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Speaker 3: Comeback mode.

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Speaker 2: Nuts, guys, I don't want anybody from that offense.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's broken. He's the only one that start

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Speaker 3: a Bowl. But it's still I would not invest in him.

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Speaker 2: Najee Harris had sixteen for eighty two in a score

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Speaker 2: long run of twenty four. It's his fifth twenty plus

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those were one thing that it's a lot different.

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Speaker 2: So he's now averaging I think it's four yards of carry.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he's averaging.

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Speaker 2: He has a better yards per carry average than Travis

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Speaker 2: atn Huhen he can't run the all atn is a

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Speaker 2: three point nine yards per carry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's been stretch. Now they can't run the ball.

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Speaker 3: I think it is a Nagy's best year.

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Speaker 2: Deontay Foreman twenty one for eighty in a touchdown hundred

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but still a very good game.

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Speaker 2: Very productive game. Rico dal Dell twelve for seventy nine

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Speaker 3: And it wasn't all garbage time. No garbage time started

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Speaker 3: at five minutes into the game. Yeah. Still he's involved

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Speaker 2: He's Yeah, he's the he's the clear handcuff with Pollard

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Speaker 3: And he's kind of the thunder to the lightning. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean they don't run the ball well, but he

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Speaker 2: Jamior Gibbs had fourteen for seventy seven and two touchdowns

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Speaker 2: on the ground.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's dynamic and looks great.

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Speaker 2: James Connor came back seventeen fore or sixteen for seventy three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's RB two. Uh A. J Dillon at nine

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Speaker 3: He's clearly the two, and they kind of split the load.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think Dylan looks good. He had one

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Speaker 3: long run.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor at twenty three for sixty nine in a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: His long run was tena Zack Moss barely played.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Taylor going forward.

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Speaker 2: They were better when they were in them.

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Speaker 3: Both were Taylor's really good though.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I understand, but I would try to figure

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Speaker 3: Good too, was really good outside a really good year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like they need to figure out something there to

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Speaker 2: keep them both. They got to have their buy this week.

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Speaker 2: I would think after Germany.

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Speaker 3: After Germany, I.

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Speaker 2: Would figure out a way coming out of the by

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Speaker 3: No, they're not.

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Speaker 2: Like get your best guys on the field and go

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Speaker 2: go with that. If that's you know, running Moss out

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Speaker 2: of the slaughter flip, you know whatever, I don't care

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Speaker 2: what you gotta do. Butman, Yeah, Austin Ekeler nineteen for

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Speaker 2: sixty seven and a touchdown. That's just what he does.

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Speaker 3: He just yes, but they're not running the ball great.

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Speaker 2: They're not tough de choice to good deal.

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Speaker 3: Yes it is.

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Speaker 2: Saku had thirteen for sixty six. They got him out

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Speaker 3: Just I mean he had one yard at like the half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he ended up with five point one yards of carry, though.

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Speaker 3: There was a lot of it was late or not

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Speaker 2: Well, he's gonna have a lot of that. Kenneth Walker

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Speaker 2: nineteen for sixty thix six average three point three yards

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Speaker 3: Him and Charbona both were looked good. I mean it's

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Speaker 2: Tony Pollard we mentioned him fifteen for fifty five three

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Speaker 3: You'd think he's catching ten balls a game.

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Speaker 2: Though it doesn't do that either, right, he's not at all.

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Speaker 2: He had Zeke Elliott at thirteen for fifty four was

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Speaker 3: Even consider like trying to pry Pollard away from his owner,

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Speaker 2: At this point, he get him cheap at this point.

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Speaker 2: It is what it is?

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Speaker 3: What's he?

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Speaker 2: What is he? A flex? Start?

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Speaker 3: I think he's a flex Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can find another, Yeah, I can find other

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Speaker 3: Oh no, doubt. You'd hope be like, boy, he's been

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Speaker 2: Rashad White at twenty for fifty and twenty carries for

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Speaker 3: He's not a great back two points, but he catches

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Speaker 2: He's a good receiver. He would be great in some

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Speaker 2: different offenses, mixing at eleven for forty four in a

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Speaker 3: That was a big problem. They didn't run the ball

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Speaker 3: well at all.

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Speaker 2: Ty Chandler got fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Carries massive as a concussion. Yeah, so I would pick him.

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Speaker 2: Up fifteen for forty five in a touchdown. He's not great.

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Speaker 3: He's not great, No, I mean, he had a really

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Speaker 3: the guy this week, though.

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Speaker 2: Would you rather have him or would you rather have

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Speaker 3: For this week? I'd rather have Chandler. I'd rather Chandler

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Speaker 3: either way.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, the receiving leaders, but thirteen guys over hundred,

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Speaker 2: Keenan Allen leading the way with eleven for one seventy

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Speaker 2: five and two touchdowns. How in the hell does Detroit

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Speaker 2: let that happen?

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Speaker 3: Right. He's a great player, and he left for a

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Speaker 3: while he was injured.

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Speaker 2: He's the only guy that can catch, like the only

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Speaker 3: It's been banged up. I mean the other guys are all. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's always open.

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Speaker 2: One week after we start Brandon Cooks in Fantasy on

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Speaker 2: our DFS lineup, he goes for nine for one to

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Speaker 2: seventy three in a touchdown. I'm shocked that took that

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Speaker 2: one one catch last week and one guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, their offense is throwing the ball.

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Speaker 2: Well, Noah Brown did it again, seven for one seventy.

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Speaker 3: Two and he was the Nico role completely. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 3: you know, they just won for one of them, and

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Speaker 3: he got a lot of targets. And Stroud's elevating everybody.

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Speaker 3: Amon Ross Saint Brown eight running out and picking up

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Speaker 3: Noah Brown.

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Speaker 2: It's two weeks in a row. He's done it there.

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Speaker 3: I think Nico's do back Noah Brown.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I say. Monroe had eight for one fifty

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Speaker 3: He's like Keenan Allen.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Good.

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Speaker 2: Every week he's like a young Keenan Allen. Yeah, ceedee

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Speaker 2: Lamb eleven for one fifty one in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: His year has been ridiculous. Yeah. How many receivers will

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Speaker 3: you take over him for your drafting right now? Not many.

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Speaker 2: Mike Evans had six for one forty three in a score.

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Speaker 3: Then he dropped an unbelievably easy Touchdownah.

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Speaker 2: I said he lost lost a little focus on that one.

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Speaker 2: T J. Hawkinson eleven for one thirty four in a score.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's a good offense. It's well constructed.

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Speaker 3: But I thought this whole quarterback situation would hurt it

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Speaker 3: I mean you want to them over Andrews.

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Speaker 2: He was, he was my breakout guy at the beginning

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Speaker 2: of the year. I thought he would really carry that

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Speaker 2: what he did in the second half of last year

446
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Speaker 2: over and he certainly has really good But that could

447
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Speaker 2: change Jefferson's back. Jefferson back, which would take to get.

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Speaker 3: Hurts Addison a lot. Yeah, but it could.

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Speaker 2: It could take three or four targets a game off

450
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Speaker 2: of Hawks.

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Speaker 3: YEA, they're gonna get the ball Jefferson.

452
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Speaker 2: Trey McBride eight for one thirty one.

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Speaker 3: I think that's real. Yeah, I think he's a starter.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's gon go for one thirty one

455
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Speaker 3: every week, but certainly should not be on a waiver wire.

456
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Speaker 3: And I don't even care if Urz comes back or not. Yeah,

457
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Speaker 3: that's his spot, doesn't matter, right.

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chase had five for one twenty.

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Speaker 3: Four all on one play basically.

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Speaker 2: How about this one? Brian Robinson had six for one

461
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Speaker 2: nineteen in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: He had a long one. I think they stumped it

463
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Speaker 3: to him and he went screaming on the sideline.

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Speaker 2: He had a fifty one yarder, but he still cut

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Speaker 2: six passes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Gibbson. It was on Matthew Berry's love hate Now

467
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Speaker 3: I think about it, I think the Seattle is like

468
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Speaker 3: ridiculously bad against running back catches because he was real

469
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Speaker 3: high on Gibson and the receiver. So maybe it was

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Speaker 3: end up being.

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Speaker 2: Robinson potentially for the Steelers down the road.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they have.

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Speaker 2: Some running backs that can catch the football.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Boyd had hate for one seventeen Higgins and he

476
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Speaker 2: had like one catch in the first half. Like the

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Speaker 2: second half of that game. Chase had like two catches

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Speaker 2: for twenty yards. The second half of that game was

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Speaker 2: just up and down the field.

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Speaker 3: Like, would you play BOYD this Thursday against Baltimore. There's

481
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Speaker 3: no Higgins think about it, think about it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Chase definitely yeah, and Humphrey might not play.

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Speaker 3: Humphrey probably won't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, why not. I guess he's going

485
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Speaker 2: to get a lot of Arthur Molett in the slot.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we should DFS that game. We want to do

487
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Speaker 3: a stand alone with with you with a good contest.

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Speaker 3: George Kittle only had three catches. One was for like

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Speaker 3: seventy yards, but it went for.

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Speaker 2: One hundred and sixteen yards in a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on one and that was.

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Speaker 2: Not a good throw. No, did you say? He just

493
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Speaker 2: threw it up in the air and kit Kittle made

494
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Speaker 2: the adjustment and came inside and made the play.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Then you had finally Christian Kirk at six for one

497
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Speaker 2: oh four in that game.

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Speaker 3: That's like more offense. He is a little broken though.

499
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Speaker 2: It is it is. It was more than half their

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Speaker 2: passing yards. Yeah, Metcalf just missed at seven for ninety eight,

501
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper six for ninety eight. Their whole passing game

502
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Speaker 2: goes through him.

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Speaker 3: Clem Morning to Djoku lately though, Yeah.

504
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Speaker 2: Chris a Lave had six for ninety four in a score.

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Speaker 3: What's hilarious about him is I have him in both

506
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Speaker 3: my main leagues and one you know, I'm with you

507
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,720
Speaker 3: halftime zero total zero, like search on Twitter and like

508
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Speaker 3: I see her come in, you know, and then they've

509
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Speaker 3: then targets hert They' bringing Winston.

510
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Speaker 2: He's chucking it, Michael, Michael Thomas got her too, which

511
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Speaker 2: kind of stuff.

512
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Speaker 3: Right, Thomas got her really early. I think that's bad news. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Winston's like the total Winston experience. Just chuck it all

514
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Speaker 3: over town picks, you know, Lave go get it.

515
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Garrett Wilson at nine for ninety three.

516
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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter who their quarterback is. They do a

517
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Speaker 3: good job of force Wilson the ball. You know.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Lockett at eight for ninety two in a score

519
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Speaker 2: yet in the Washington defense, just start them all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

521
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Speaker 2: DeVante Adams had six for eighty six.

522
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Speaker 3: They clearly want to feature him. Yeah, they were just

523
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Speaker 3: throwing to him early and often.

524
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Speaker 2: Pittman had a Michael Pittman game eight for eighty four,

525
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Speaker 2: though he evers more than ten yards of catch. So

526
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Speaker 2: there's that.

527
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Speaker 3: He's on both my team, so I actually paid attention,

528
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Speaker 3: but he got stopped at the one inch line. Yeah,

529
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Speaker 3: receiver screen.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned I didn't want any Patriots well to Mario

531
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Speaker 2: Douglas did have six for eighty four. So there's their

532
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Speaker 2: target guy.

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Speaker 3: How long it'll keep up?

534
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Speaker 2: But you know, Jayden Reid against the Steelers had five

535
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Speaker 2: for eighty four and a touchdown. Zay Flowers had five

536
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Speaker 2: for seventy three. Dalton Schultz had four for seventy one

537
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Speaker 2: against that Bengals defense. Fire tight uns up against them.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they're not getting two along with Noel Brown.

539
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Speaker 3: I mean yeah.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Conklin had seven for seventy.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's terrible.

542
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Speaker 2: He's a number two receiver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think he's terrible. Yeah, you

544
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Speaker 3: could do worse a tight end.

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Speaker 2: Michael Gallup had two for seventy and a touchdown. Because

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Speaker 2: everybody started. Everybody for the Cowboys scored a touchdown this

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Speaker 2: week except for Tony Palk.

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Speaker 3: He's never followed. Yikes. That's how it was strong.

549
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's pretty much hit for the big the

550
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Speaker 2: big players. Kenneth Walker did a he say he salvaged

551
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Speaker 2: his fantasy day with a sixty four yard touchdown catch.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, so I remember him running free and

553
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Speaker 3: I never think of him as a receiver. That was

554
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Speaker 3: a dump one. So Charbonna's nipping at his heels a

555
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 3: little bit though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely. And there's some situations like at around the

557
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 2: league where you got the two running, two headed monsters.

558
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 2: Sometimes it works really well and other times.

559
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Speaker 3: As Steelers see, it works great for real world.

560
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Speaker 2: There's been some There have been some weeks this week though,

561
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Speaker 2: where the both Steeler running backs weren't like particularly productive.

562
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Speaker 2: But they seem to be figuring some things out here

563
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Speaker 2: this second half.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, if you can run for over

565
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Speaker 3: two hundred yards game, they'll both be fantasy relevant.

566
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you run for one fifty a game,

567
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Speaker 2: they're both fans.

568
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah. So no, you're right, and no catch a few.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to a break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lallie. That was the Fantasy football focus.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with more on the Drive right after.

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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale lolli. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Matt Seth Walder on. ESPN has broken the all

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Speaker 2: thirty two teams into eight tiers at this point in

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Speaker 2: the season, kind of using the ESPN power indexed Future

579
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Speaker 2: Strength to schedule past performance metrics all the he's their

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Speaker 2: analytics guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he is. So he does care about future Yeah, okay,

582
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Speaker 3: not just where they're at now.

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Speaker 2: I question that though looking at this so anyway, So

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Speaker 2: he's broken these into tiers. Tier one he has are

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Speaker 2: the true Super Bowl contenders.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm trying to think of my head who I

587
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Speaker 3: would actually put there.

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Speaker 2: He has Philadelphia definitely, Kansas City for sure. Yeah, San Francisco,

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, those three. I can't go Lions, Bills, AFC North

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Speaker 3: not quite So if.

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Speaker 2: You were, If you were so, if I gave you.

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Speaker 3: I bet he had Baltimore there last.

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Speaker 2: Week, probably you know. But if I said to you,

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Speaker 2: if the two Super Bowl teams are going to come

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Speaker 2: out of those three teams, and I give you that

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Speaker 2: versus the field.

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Speaker 3: You well you take the field because well, I mean,

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Speaker 3: does Kansas City have more than a fifty chance? I

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Speaker 3: think the the NFC teams have more of a fifty

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Speaker 3: percent chance come in, but the Chiefs don't. Like I

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Speaker 3: think we'd all bet that one Super Bowl team comes

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Speaker 3: out of that tier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's probably safe bet. I bet that doesn't

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Speaker 3: pay off. Ye, you know, would you take the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: versus Field though, I would take the field.

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Speaker 2: I'd take the field. Yeah. Yeah, And I get it.

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Speaker 2: I hear this all the time. Well, the Steelers can't

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Speaker 2: go you know, can't go into Kansas City and win

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Speaker 2: playing the way they are. Tell me who can go

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Speaker 2: into Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: For the AFC champions against anybody.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're favored against anybody that goes in.

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Speaker 3: There, but that's they're a little out of sight, out

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Speaker 3: of mind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're looking for weapons and they don't run

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Speaker 3: the ball. Great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that game against the Dolphins a couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: ago was not you know, everybody expected it to be

622
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Speaker 2: a shootout at Denver twenty one seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's not. They're not flawless or just kind

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Speaker 3: of haven't seen him in a while.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Tier two playoff locks locks like Baltimore should be there, Dallas,

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Speaker 2: that's a lot, Detroit, that's a lot Miami.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd probably be in the tier below that.

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Speaker 2: They've lost to all all three winning teams of winning

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Speaker 2: records that the play they have not beaten a team

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Speaker 2: that doesn't, and they've averaged in those games seventeen points

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Speaker 2: per game.

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Speaker 3: I think you said, I mean the winning percentage of

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Speaker 3: the teams they've beaten is like twenty three. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 3: they would be a tier lower for me, Balt in

635
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Speaker 3: that group. I think there are a lot to go

636
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 3: to playoffs. That's how we're classic.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you think about it, though.

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Speaker 3: They lose Thursday, they're not.

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Speaker 2: But there were some mere like just I think it was,

640
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 2: what were they eight and one or eight and two

641
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago at this point in the season.

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Speaker 2: Lamar gets hurt and they.

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Speaker 3: Didn't sure, you know, I mean obviously if Mahomes gets

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Speaker 3: hurt or I mean, any of these guys could derail it.

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Speaker 2: But they're very fragile. I think the Ravens are going okay,

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Speaker 2: likely in barring a collapse.

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Speaker 3: There are only three teams in Tier two then one, two, three,

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Speaker 3: four four in Miami.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Minnesota, I kind of agree. They're six and four.

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Speaker 2: They've won five in a row. So they were one

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Speaker 2: in four to start the season.

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Speaker 3: Four a new quarterback, who's fine.

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Speaker 2: They have a better record without Justin Jefferson. Then they

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Speaker 2: with it the one and four with Jefferson. Jefferson gets hurt.

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Speaker 2: They rattle off five wins in a row.

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Speaker 3: I think he's making a strong case for the Coach

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Speaker 3: of the Year just because they're in the NFC. I mean,

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Speaker 3: they're probably gonna go to the playoffs. I mean unless there's

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Speaker 3: a collapse. Yeah, and they overcame a collapse. They lost

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Speaker 3: their starting quarterback Jacksonville, probably, but their case got a

661
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Speaker 3: lot weaker in the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 2: They got smoked in that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Houston's good.

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Speaker 2: And people talking about the Houston went there and won convincingly.

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Speaker 3: Good point another one.

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Speaker 2: San Francisco went there and won convincingly. Like they don't

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Speaker 2: really have a home field.

668
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: No, they don't, which is why there.

669
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 2: They play a couple of games every year and you

670
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 2: know Europe, would.

671
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 3: You put them in that? Do you think they meet

672
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: that criteria though, you know, in unless they collapse, I guess,

673
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 3: I guess. I mean they had a five game winning

674
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: streak before that, so probably, But Houston could win that division.

675
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the problem. Yeah, Cleveland is in that.

676
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: I don't put them there. I can't put them in that. No.

677
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: I mean it's not like, oh it's smooth saleing, we're

678
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 3: a playoff team. Uh.

679
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: And then Seattle probably they're like with the Bikes. Yeah,

680
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 2: I mean there's six and three in the NFC. They're

681
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: probably you're a winning record in the NFC, You're in

682
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: good shape. Tier four is we're leaning, yes.

683
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: Okay, New Orleans, I mean what we lean? Do you?

684
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: And I think they win the South?

685
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: Yes, Marshawn Lattimore and Michael Thomas are both have significant injuries.

686
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: So quarterback yeah, so.

687
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's according they have James. They can play

688
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 2: that in but.

689
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: It might even kickstart them a little. But I guess

690
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 3: they're the best team that division.

691
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: I guess, but that's a bad division.

692
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, none of them look good. Buffalo, they're better than

693
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 3: their record, they're better than their situation.

694
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: According to ESPN's analytics, Buffalo he is Buffalo to fifty

695
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: six percent chance to make the playoffs. Chance to win

696
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: the AFC East is twenty five.

697
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: I think they have a better chance than that to

698
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: win the East. I mean, not that I'm gonna break

699
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 3: down the analytics, but they have a tough schedule, got

700
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: to win tonight. I guess that's where they belong. But

701
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: I think there's a I think there's a decent chance

702
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 3: they are not in the playoffs.

703
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: Cincinnati like so when he talks about having an he

704
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: talks about having the future stuff in here. I don't

705
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: know he does.

706
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, their situation.

707
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: Their chance to make the playoffs is thirty four percent,

708
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: that their chance to win the ANFC North is six percent.

709
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: Well, didn't he preface this one by saying, we're see

710
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 3: really good about that.

711
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: We're leaning yes.

712
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well shouldn't you lean know if it's thirty four percent, like.

713
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: New Orleans chances to make the playoffs sixty one percent,

714
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: that's totally different Buffalo's chance to make the playoffs fifty

715
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: six percent.

716
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: That doesn't sound crazy to me.

717
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 2: Cincinnati's chances to make the playoffs? Is it thirty four percent?

718
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 2: You're leaning yes, But you're leaning yes. I mean they're good,

719
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 2: they have a great quarterback. They're in a bad they're

720
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: a bad spot. I mean they're gonna be a dog Thursday. Yeah,

721
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: But then he's still leaning in thees, right. You know,

722
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: now you're five and five and you still have to

723
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: go to Kansas City, you still have to go to Jacksonville,

724
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: you still have to go to Pittsburgh and Cleveland.

725
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: After the Houston loss, I was leaning yes so week.

726
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 2: Ago on the fringes of hope and despair. This is

727
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: tier five.

728
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 3: That's kind of a rough.

729
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: He's a Steelers leading the way there hope and despair.

730
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: Chances to make the playoffs fifty three percent.

731
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: Which is about same as football siders, which is yeah.

732
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: No, it's much higher than that, much higher than that.

733
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: It's not football siders anymore. So fantasy fifty three percent.

734
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: Chance to make the playoffs sixteen percent. Chance to win

735
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 2: the AFC North. You've got them in a tier lower

736
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: than Cincinnati. You got them in a tier lower than Buffalo,

737
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: who are both A have worse records, b have worse

738
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: division and conference.

739
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: Right where their situation's way worse. I mean on a

740
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 3: neutral field, the Steelers are a dog the Bills or Bengals.

741
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 2: That's fine, don't they only play one of them twice?

742
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 3: And the way he has the structure is chance ability

743
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: to get in the playoffs. Yeah, a better ability to get.

744
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: Calling calling this on the fringes of hope and despair

745
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: for a six and three team. Yeah, that's insulting. Let's

746
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: look at you see who are the other team? Houston

747
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: is in that group hope and despair. Hope and despair. Yeah,

748
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 2: I think it's a poorly named.

749
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 3: Tears that you're thinking like, like these should be like hopeful.

750
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: Houston and Pittsburgh have both taken care of business more

751
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: often than.

752
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: Not without question, and there's nothing despaired about the Houston

753
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: organization right now. That should be full of hope and unicorns.

754
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: And yeah, oh they're super happy bears. Yeah, the Chargers.

755
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: Now you want to talk about hope and despair. Now

756
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: we're talking to that law.

757
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Now it's like things have to fall our way

758
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 3: and we're gonna need a tiebreaker and that of stuff.

759
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, their chances to make the playoffs on a thirty

760
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 2: five percent chance to win the AFC West five percent

761
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: not gonna happen.

762
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: They need my Home's injury to win their division, the

763
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: Falcons because their division.

764
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Tier six, stranger things have happened.

765
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe that's like Tampa.

766
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: Again. Tier Tier five is called on the fringes of

767
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: hope and despair.

768
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: To me, that makes it sound like, again it's a

769
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: poorly worded group, those on the fringe of hope.

770
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: Like, oh, like to flip what those two tiers are called.

771
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's what you're saying. I mean, right, Like

772
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 3: the Jets should be on the hope, on the fringe

773
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: of hope and despair. Yeah, I mean they're not eliminated.

774
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: But the Bucks are four and five. They just broke

775
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: a four game or five game losing stream. They should

776
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: be on the hopes of hopes in despair.

777
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe they beat the Saints and Falcons had the

778
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: head and getting the you know, yeah.

779
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 2: The Jets are in this tier. It's it's the Buccaneers

780
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: the Jets.

781
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: This should be like the Colts the Raiders.

782
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: There's only two teams in that Stranger things have happened

783
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 2: like Jets. As Lobody expects that the Buccaneers are Jets

784
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: to get into the playoffs.

785
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: Come on, I mean, has got a better chance.

786
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: They get a much better chance, Yeah, much better chance.

787
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 3: They could get hot. The Jets have no chance from

788
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: here on. Jets that are done. That game is brutal. Yeah.

789
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: Is Aaron Rodgers still coming back? For the playoffs. By

790
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 2: the way, can you come back for the playoffs just

791
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 2: to watch your team not in the playoffs.

792
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 3: They keep telling like, he's gonna be coming back any

793
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: day now. If he does, I wouldn't bump him up a.

794
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: Tier Yeah, uh, tier seven. Yes, I'm telling you there's

795
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: a slight chance.

796
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, and you know what teams these are gonna be.

797
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 3: It's gonna be the Raiders, It's gonna be Indie. They're

798
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 3: all a better chance than the Jets. Yeah, I mean,

799
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 3: they have easier schedules. They just beat them head to head.

800
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 3: The Raiders.

801
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the Colts. The Rams by buy that.

802
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 2: The Packers.

803
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 3: The Rams, I think have a better chance to go

804
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 3: to the playoffs.

805
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: In the Bucks, the Packers have a better chance to

806
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: go to the playoffs than the Jets.

807
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: Yes, Rams, definitely do.

808
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: The Packers are at nine percent. The Jets are at

809
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: three percent. He has the Jets in the Green Bay e.

810
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: They have three wins, right, they're three and six.

811
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it could happen, but boy that I

812
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 3: can't imagine them getting the nine.

813
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 2: The Commanders are at four and six. They have a

814
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: three percent chance. They have a better chance.

815
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 3: To make it than the Jets.

816
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Broncos have it. They're in this group. They

817
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: have a two percent chance.

818
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: That's what they are. Even with a win, they're stay

819
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 3: in that group.

820
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: And then Tier eight is rest up for twenty twenty four.

821
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: There should be a lot of these teams. That's Tennessee

822
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: that they belong. Chicago, Yep, the Raiders are in that one.

823
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 3: It's a little harsh considering the record. I mean, they

824
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: don't really pass the sniff test, but they beat the Jets.

825
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: They just beat they So you have two tiers ahead

826
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 2: of them.

827
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 3: They have a better record than the Jets.

828
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: Two tiers, right, you had much better.

829
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, like they have a better chance to go to

830
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: the playoffs than the Jets. Yeah.

831
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: Arizona, yes, New England of course, the Giants. Yes, Carolina. Yeah, Yeah,

832
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:18,399
Speaker 2: that's her.

833
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 3: That's the bottom.

834
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: That's the bottom.

835
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 3: I think the draft order right now goes Carolina, Denver

836
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 3: or New England. No, Arizona's two. Yeah, Arizona's two, New

837
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: England's three.

838
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 2: That's gonna change.

839
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't know if the Giants win again.

840
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, I don't. I don't know if they do either.

841
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 3: They're the worst team in the league easily. Yeah, Carolina

842
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 3: is really bad.

843
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: So I mean, I I don't know, I just that

844
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: that how he worded or how the what do he

845
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: called that?

846
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 3: The hope and despair, hope in despair. I mean, come on, man,

847
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: that's a that was a Tier three guy or Tier

848
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: four guy, and at those guys had a serious chance

849
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: at the playoffs.

850
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: Again, looking at the strength of victory stuff here again

851
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 2: for the Steelers, the win over Green Bay dropped. They

852
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: were at five or forty two or whatever last week.

853
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: Now they're down, they're forty two. But you still you know,

854
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: when you look at where's Miami, there's two fifty.

855
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 3: Let's say it has changed fifty horrible, right, right, they're.

856
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: Win percentages two fifty.

857
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: They've beaten nobody in the lost percentages of the opposite.

858
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 2: All the good teams, all the good teams have beaten them.

859
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, even the Bills don't have a great record.

860
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: The Saints are the same way. They're two ninety two

861
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: strengths of victory.

862
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 3: And they played the easiest schedule in the league.

863
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, just ahead of them as Washington at two eighty nine.

864
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: They've beaten nobody.

865
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 3: They've beaten up much better than those two teams.

866
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 2: They've beaten up on the on the bad teams.

867
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Washington hung with Seattle.

868
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: But that doesn't matter, you know, right, you're still lost. Yeah,

869
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: Saints are horrible too, heart That whole division stinks, sinks, stinks.

870
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: What they excited about them? It's not even like a

871
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 3: quarterback to get excited about it, right. You know? The

872
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: AFC South looked pretty rough, is all.

873
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 2: Those teams in the South, other than Carolina, which is

874
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: going to stink again this year.

875
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 3: But they don't have their pick.

876
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: None of them are going to be high enough to

877
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: get a quarterback in this draft.

878
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: Well, Carr, Will Carr, Winston, Ritter, Heinikey Mayfield be starting

879
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: next year. Yeah, probably be one or two of them. Will. Yeah,

880
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: maybe trade for Kirk Cousins or something like that for

881
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 3: those guys.

882
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yuk, yuk yuk. Yeah, So don't despair your situation,

883
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: Steeler fans. You're six and three. Enjoy it. Six and

884
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: three is six and three. I don't care how you

885
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: did it. You're six and three.

886
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in good shape, in real good shape.

887
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, we're gonna get to another break. He is

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly, you're listening to the

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Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly, and this is

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Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. Matt. In the Steelers

902
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: first seven games, they averaged seventy nine point seven rushing

903
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: yards per game. Oh three point four yards per carrey.

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Speaker 3: We remember it well. It was a rough go.

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Speaker 2: Last two games one eighty five point five and five

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00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: point six yards per carry.

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Speaker 3: How about it? And that's not even like, oh, remember

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00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 3: you got that adar you know, just skews things in

909
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 3: small sample size. I mean it's consistent, churning it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hammer and now hammer and now yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Is it as simple as Broderick Jones in the line.

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Speaker 3: I think it sure helps. I think he's a special

914
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Speaker 3: player that looks like a first round pick, and they

915
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Speaker 3: love running behind him. Him and Washington together, that bulldog

916
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Speaker 3: connection is pretty strong. I think the guards are playing

917
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Speaker 3: as we thought they would, you know, like.

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Speaker 2: They finally got their feet under him and there.

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00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah like that. Maybe that's like the fifth best pair

920
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 3: of guards in the league. You know.

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Speaker 2: Nachi Harris mentioned something after the game yesterday that the

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Speaker 2: offensive line they've started pulling more.

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Speaker 3: Oh that's what about saying, yeah.

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Speaker 2: They like to do it. We like that they like

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Speaker 2: to do it, so we want them to do it

926
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Speaker 2: and exactly get those guys out there and let them

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Speaker 2: just bully somebody.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're at the facility more than me, and

929
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Speaker 3: I just really get the impression because you keep hearing

930
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: these things leaked out that the ball carriers, the blockers,

931
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Speaker 3: and the coaches seem to be communicating very well, Hey

932
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Speaker 3: what do you like? What do I like? And I

933
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 3: think they've all come to conclusions that hey, we're a

934
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Speaker 3: big athletic line. Then we start pulling, guys, we're hard

935
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Speaker 3: to deal with. Yeah, I mean, and I think they're

936
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Speaker 3: doing a better job with their run style. You see

937
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 3: some trapping, You'll see a lot of pulling. You'll see

938
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Speaker 3: even like pitches to the outside, a lot of the

939
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 3: you know, nausey. Throughout his career, he's had to fight

940
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: to get back to the line of scrimmage. And you know,

941
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Speaker 3: like a Derrick Henry, you don't want him stopping his

942
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 3: feet in right hand fighting.

943
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Speaker 2: Get him running downhill.

944
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Speaker 3: Get him a couple of steps before he even gets

945
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Speaker 3: a ball in his hands, whether that's a pitch to

946
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Speaker 3: the outside or whatever. And I think they're really coming

947
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: to that much better. I also think that there's just

948
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 3: some continuity involved with offensive line play. Like Wolf always

949
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: tell you who keeps their block longer, you know, on

950
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Speaker 3: double teams, And there was a lot of errors early

951
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: in the year, like both of them would leave the

952
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 3: double team like you can't do that, you know, I

953
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 3: mean things like that. I think they're starting to understand

954
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Speaker 3: one another better.

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Speaker 2: So if you're the Browns this week, yeah, you have

956
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 2: to be looking at these last two weeks and going, okay,

957
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: we got to stop the run.

958
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 3: I would sell out. I mean, at the.

959
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Speaker 2: Same time, Denzel Ward's dealing with a neck injury. See,

960
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Speaker 2: if he's able to play this week, that's I mean, uh,

961
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Speaker 2: if he's not available and the Steelers get Friar Mouth

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Speaker 2: back this week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh I think you. I'm not saying you ignore Johnson,

964
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Speaker 3: Friar Muth Pickens, but I think job number one.

965
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Speaker 2: Has to be can't let him. Can't let them do that, right.

966
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Speaker 3: So it's gonna have to be a picket game. But

967
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Speaker 3: even late in that game, they started bringing a lot

968
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Speaker 3: of people in.

969
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Speaker 2: The box and they were still able to run.

970
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Speaker 3: And they were still able to run no matter what,

971
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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, like, I don't know that back

972
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Speaker 3: to the beginning of the show, Like, didn't you say

973
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Speaker 3: something along the lines I've howe wrote this, you know,

974
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Speaker 3: Tomlin basically told the team, we'll run the ball no

975
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Speaker 3: matter what. Guys. Yeah, Like, I don't think you can

976
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 3: come into this game with that approach. I don't think

977
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Speaker 3: you come up five wide, you know.

978
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Speaker 2: But you might want to spread him out a little bit.

979
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Speaker 3: You might, you might, But I mean I think that

980
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:09,959
Speaker 3: this is going to have to be more balanced offensive attack. Yeah,

981
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be well over fifty

982
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: percent run percentage or anything like that.

983
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Speaker 2: Now, I do think like it's not all broader. I'm

984
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: not going to just say Broderick Jones has fixed their

985
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 2: running game. One offensive lineman doesn't fix your running game.

986
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Speaker 3: But he's the type of guy. He traded up in

987
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: the first round to go.

988
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 2: But he's the type of right Like Tim Benz asked

989
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: me we did in the pregame show, well did they

990
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: trade did they trade up to go get a right tackle?

991
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: I'm like, so what if they did?

992
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: I don't care what bit.

993
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he's if he's the right, if he's the

994
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 2: right tackle, and Dan Moys your left tackle, fine, it

995
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Well, shouldn't that be the

996
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 2: left tackle? I don't care. Tristan Wurf's was the best

997
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: right tackle in the game and they moved him to

998
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: the left side.

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00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not even sure why at that point. I mean,

1000
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 3: but like, the first tackle drafted was right, right, right, right,

1001
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 3: right right from the Bears. Yeah, I mean he's a

1002
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 3: pure right tackle. R WRGHD. No one cares anymore about

1003
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 3: right first left. I don't think that makes difference. Lane

1004
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 3: Johnson might be the best tackle in the league. That's

1005
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 3: not Trent Williams. He's been in a long time right tackle.

1006
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: We're already seeing the benefits no matter if he plays

1007
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: on the left or right side. What he gave up

1008
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: looks like it's worth it, right, you know what I mean?

1009
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 2: There was a play and I can't remember exactly when

1010
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: it happened, but I think it was in a third

1011
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: quarter where he pulled and he beat. He was into

1012
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: the hole before the running back even like and he

1013
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: was pulling over to the left guard spot.

1014
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 3: Okay, good ways, he was to the.

1015
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: Hole and starting through the hole before the running back

1016
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: even had.

1017
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: The ball, almost like he was a lead blocking full back. Yeah.

1018
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he was just so fast down the line

1019
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 2: of scrimm, Like did he get I'm like, watch it

1020
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: again on replay, like did he move early? And I'm like, no,

1021
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: it doesn't look like he did. He's just that quick.

1022
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 3: He's really good out of the stands. I've been saying

1023
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 3: this now for two weeks, like a sprinter. Like if

1024
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 3: I told my daughter watch these five lineman, who do

1025
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: you want? She's gonna take jones every time? You know, Like,

1026
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: because he moves if he moves like a first round pick.

1027
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 3: And the other guys aren't bad athletes. They're all pulling

1028
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 3: well too, especially the guards. And he's just different than

1029
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: when he's wrong. Sometimes he's right. Yeah.

1030
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 2: Just hit it hard, Yeah, just.

1031
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: Go be aggressive. And he's been really impressive.

1032
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1033
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 3: So I don't care if he's the right or left.

1034
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't matter. They've just found something and he

1035
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: seems a care Yeah, and he's enjoyed.

1036
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: Well.

1037
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: He said he prefer to play in the left, but

1038
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: I think he prefer to play that's the.

1039
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 3: Main thing, and help the team. And they're winning with him.

1040
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it just goes to show, like you know,

1041
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: early in training camp and throughout training camp, he credited

1042
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: Dan Moore for being, you know, helping him along the way,

1043
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 2: and you know, oh yeah, yeah, the idea was that, well,

1044
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: he's gonna take he's gonna take Dan more spot. Well

1045
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: maybe not.

1046
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: We all kind of thought that. I thought Moore might

1047
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 3: end up on the right side or a guard or

1048
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: somewhere else or who knows. But now it looks like

1049
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: they're pretty set with their five at the moment. Yeah.

1050
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean I don't see no reason to change yet.

1051
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: No, that's this point.

1052
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: So we'll see it. We'll see if they can carry

1053
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: that over into another game against the Browns.

1054
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll get Garrett a Fairmountains game too. I mean,

1055
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 3: if I were them, i'd say, but Cester rookie with Miles,

1056
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: you know. But Moore's done reasonably well against Garrett over

1057
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 3: his career and the rest of are d lines no

1058
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: joke either.

1059
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll see. But it's gonna be a fun week. Yeah, well,

1060
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: of course, got the especially with that Thursday night game

1061
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: as well, since it's an AFC North for the.

1062
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: Matchup Bears Panthers.

1063
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: It's not Bears Panthers, it's not Jets Raiders, it's not

1064
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: Giants and anybody, right.

1065
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: The Giants and Jets. Yeah, oh my boy.

1066
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, so it would be a fun week.

1067
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 2: But that's going to do it for our show today.

1068
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Speaker 2: So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

1069
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Speaker 2: on site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale Lelly.

1070
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Speaker 2: We thank you for listening to this edition of the

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Speaker 2: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.