1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Nathan's Gera Girod Cherry and joining us right now. Assistant 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: general manager Katheryne Hickman joining us tonight. Catherine, thanks for joining. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Us, Thanks for having me. Always great to speak with 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: you guys every year. 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am. So you looked at Carson Swestinger and what 6 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: were you guys seeing? 7 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you're seeing just starting with his personality, You're 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: seeing a player who has this walk on chip on 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 2: his shoulder mentality. You think of toughness, you think of 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: what he's been able to accomplish to you know, his 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: story is just fantastic to today being you know, thirty 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: third overall pick. And then you look at what he 13 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: did on the field, like his production this past season 14 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: is undeniable. He's been a really strong contributor on special 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: teams as well prior to this year. So you're really 16 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 2: looking at a very athletic, instinctive, good feel player that's 17 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: going to be able to make an impact in both 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: phases of the game that we look very much forward 19 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: to work with. 20 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: Was there temptation to move out of thirty three and 21 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: was there maybe some also intel that your player would 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 3: might not have been there at thirty six? 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: I mean, every time we get on the clock. You 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: know how Andrew operates, so we look at every single 25 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: possibility as well. You did exactly, so you definitely consider 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 2: all options. But when you got you have a player 27 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: like Carson sitting there looking at you, it's really it's 28 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: really hard not to pull the trigger. 29 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: Should we read anything into this pick in regards to 30 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: j Okay. 31 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: Uh No, Like this is about uh this is really 32 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: about getting the best player we can get on this 33 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: football team, and we have wonderful coaches that are going 34 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: to find a way to maximize all of these player straints. 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: Is he a mic in our eyes? Or is he 36 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 3: a will? 37 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: I think what's beautiful about him is his versatility, So 38 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: you will be able to offer flexibility at multiple position 39 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: and I think that's also a beauty of what coach 40 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: Tarv is doing is making sure that he prepares these 41 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: guys for all positions. So I'd say, like everything's on 42 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: the table at this point. 43 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 4: Yes, And obviously we got to running back with the 44 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: second pick in this second round. What was the thought 45 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: process behind because one will say why not Henderson as 46 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: opposed to Jekins. What's the difference between you guys and 47 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: your evaluation. 48 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, both tremendous players. I think when we were looking 49 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: at their style, their skill set and what we were 50 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: looking to bring here in terms of in terms of 51 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: it adding to our room, quinch On was just a 52 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 2: natural fit and really someone that's going to bring physicality, toughness, 53 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: and someone that has value on throw it down as well. 54 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 2: Excellent past pro and I think very dependable when it 55 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: comes to catching the football. So really a well rounded 56 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 2: skill set that will be very very helpful to this 57 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: football team. 58 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 4: And it seems right now based upon the picks, I 59 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 4: love character guys. I think you build culture through character guys. 60 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 4: Not to say we don't have those guys on the 61 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: roster already, but it seems like it's almost a concerted 62 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 4: effort to make sure we find guys that have a 63 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: certain attitude approach to playing football in a way of life. 64 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 2: That's such a great point. We're building a team, not 65 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: collecting talent, and the character is huge part of that. 66 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: We want to bring tough and competitive players here, we 67 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: want to work hard, and those are all things that 68 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 2: we're looking for when we evaluate these prospects holistically, and 69 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: so far we're just fortunate that they all have those qualities. 70 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 3: I got two big picture questions for you. The first 71 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: is it feels like Mason Graham, Sweeshaner Judkins, these are 72 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: physical players. Are we trying? Was that something said we 73 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 3: need to become a more physical football team. 74 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: I think we are, But I mean, hey, this is 75 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: the AFC North, Like, there's nothing but physically physicality in 76 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: our division. So we have to remain tough and competitive. 77 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 2: So I think, to me is really adding to our core, 78 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: our core of players and making sure those remain our 79 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 2: core values when it comes to how we want to 80 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: play the game. We've got to be physical. 81 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: And then the second was just looking at how this 82 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: has played out, I think it's I don't think I'm overstepping. 83 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 3: It feels safe to say that you guys were not 84 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: enamored with the quarterback selections. It is obviously a massive 85 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 3: need for this football team. You pick at five, you 86 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 3: picked the thirty two, you picked the thirty six. A 87 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: quarterback has not been selected. What's kind of the plan 88 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: for fans at that position, given that we did an 89 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: opt to take one with one of those picks. 90 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: That's a great question. I think ultimately we there's still 91 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: quality quarterbacks that are on the board right now that 92 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: we will have an opportunity. We're still picking twice tonight. 93 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: And not to say, you know, that's not for me 94 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: to say a direction, but when I but but we 95 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 2: really just look at it from a player quality, holistic 96 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: profile relative to you know, drafts up value in where 97 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 2: we felt it was best for this football team was 98 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: to go the way we went so far. But that's 99 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: not to say that there will not be some you know, 100 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: some more in play. Yeah, exactly, and there's always again, 101 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: multiple multiple ways. Sorry to skin that cat when it 102 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: comes to bring people in. 103 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: Assistant general manager Katherine Hickman joining us here on the show. So, 104 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: how do you meet need with best player available? It's 105 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: a classic question because you know a lot of people go, 106 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: we need weapons, we need weapons, we need weapons, we 107 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: need to score the football. I wasn't trying to put 108 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: your name out there, but yeah, they're saying, but we 109 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: go defense in this draft. How do you guys go 110 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: about putting that puzzle together? 111 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean when you think of Jim Schwartz defense, 112 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: I mean we have an excellent unit. Our D line 113 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: is the engine of our defense on that side of 114 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: the ball. So when you have a player like Mason 115 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: that's right there available for the impact that he can make, 116 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 2: and this scheme is invaluable and really like you win 117 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: games with all sides of the ball, and we just 118 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: think that adding as many high impact player on our 119 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: football team was the best way to go moving forward. 120 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: When you are going back or at least it will appear 121 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 3: to kind of what Kevin Stefanci had done very very well. 122 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: Twelve personnel is a big part of that. This is 123 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: a very good tight end draft. There are still very 124 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: good tight ends on the board out there, and I'm 125 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 3: sure you guys are looking to pair one with David Ajoku? 126 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 3: Is that are those part of when it Ke's kind 127 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: of asked about how you kind of looking things in 128 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 3: terms of scheme thing and what we want to do. 129 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 3: How important is it that that becomes It seems like 130 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 3: it's a need. It meshes with the talent. Is that 131 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: something you guys will be aggressive with. 132 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: I mean, especially when it's that deep of a class. 133 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: You know, when you think of the running by class 134 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: this year, you think of the tiny class you just 135 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: said it, there's a bunch there's a few excellent candidates 136 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 2: that are still on the board right now, so it 137 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: gives you some nice optionality when you head into the 138 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: third round to think about you know what's best available 139 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: and to your point, feel and neat as well, because 140 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: to your question earlier, those are very very you want 141 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: a draft obviously for the future development best available, but 142 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: it's it's very close to what you need to do 143 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: as well to win in a short end in the 144 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 2: long term. 145 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 3: Can we expect maybe some more movement? 146 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 4: We do a lot. 147 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 3: There's usually a lot of movement in this part of 148 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 3: the draft with the Cleveland Browns. 149 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: I will steal Andrew's line, never say ever and you 150 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 2: know how you operate. 151 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: Catherine, thank you so much for the time, good luck 152 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: the rest of the night. 153 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: Thank you