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Speaker 2: He's taking the day off and has given me the

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Speaker 2: extreme pleasure in introducing today's guests. Let me just go

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Speaker 2: ahead and tell you today's guest is one of the

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Speaker 2: most anticipated ones since we've started this podcast. The boy

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Speaker 2: Dale Earnhardt Jr. Said down with us today and had

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Speaker 2: a awesome conversation. We talked a lot about Redskins football,

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Speaker 2: football in general. Then we dive deep into his plane

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Speaker 2: crash they had back last year and kind of how

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Speaker 2: his outlook on life has changed and how that event

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Speaker 2: changed his life. Then me, being his biggest fan, I

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Speaker 2: get to ask him some of the questions that I've

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Speaker 2: always wanted to ask him and it's just really cool

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Speaker 2: moment for me. So, without further ado, here's NASCAR's most

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Speaker 2: popular driver and my personal hero, Delle Earnhardt Jr.

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Speaker 3: I'm on, baby, do you this morning? Mam is pregnant,

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Speaker 3: not feeling too hot and Dale, what's up?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 5: Sounds like my house?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 4: They're pregnant too.

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Speaker 3: How far all stressed well? Tailings due July sixteen, So

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Speaker 3: we're right around the corner right now. And this whole

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Speaker 3: this whole craziness going on. I don't even know if

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Speaker 3: I'll be able to do in the labor room or

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Speaker 3: anything like that. What does your wife do?

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Speaker 5: They're doing October.

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Speaker 4: But I've.

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Speaker 5: I've read a lot about some of the challenges that

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Speaker 5: women they are pregnant are facing. Man, they're you know,

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Speaker 5: the father's not able to be in there sometimes, and

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Speaker 5: they're even not even having the same doctor they've been

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Speaker 5: working with, and it's just crazy.

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Speaker 4: It sucks.

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Speaker 5: I can't imagine.

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Speaker 3: That's go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, I was just gonna say, it's just super stressful

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Speaker 5: for us to imagine for the wife, it's got to

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Speaker 3: Top, no doubt. It's definitely what you feel super helpless

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Speaker 3: sometimes is you're not like you're just like, hey, I like,

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Speaker 3: I know you don't feel good, but you haven't felt

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Speaker 3: can't really do anything about it. And my daughter, my

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Speaker 3: daughter's going through a phase or she's two and a

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Speaker 3: So this morning I've been running up down the stairs

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Speaker 5: July, and I got two months. She'd been two in

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Speaker 5: April thirtieth.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and she's thirty right away.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, she's pretty me and her pretty tight right now.

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Speaker 3: Well are you guys, Oh, go ahead, we'll say.

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Speaker 6: I was gonna say, are your guys well just kidding,

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Speaker 6: I was gonna ask. I was gonna ask, since you

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Speaker 4: Like I don't know anything about that.

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Speaker 6: You don't have the kind of you don't have to do,

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Speaker 5: Hey, we can mean yeah, all the central stuff for

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Speaker 5: don't come in.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know how this is too when we're like,

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Speaker 5: So I will say selfishly, right when this all went

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Speaker 5: You know your dude.

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Speaker 4: You want a little you.

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Speaker 3: I know, I want to you stereotically, just want to

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Speaker 3: Any person that watches this podcast, I know when't get

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Speaker 3: And then we found out the sex. We weren't to

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Speaker 5: I'll be okay with another girl too, I am. I was, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think those old country names are awesome. They're strong,

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Speaker 5: Nineteen eighty five day. But oh really check this. So

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Speaker 6: Oh, you're bustling with the boys.

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Speaker 3: and we're gonna pick at one, but we were playing

436
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Speaker 3: the Patriots. Get absolutely donkey, not even a chance, and

437
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 3: Marcus gets hurt, just salting the wound, and I'm kind

438
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 3: of like leaning down in the huddle, and someone comes

439
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 3: in and I started, I'm starting the smell, and I started,

440
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Speaker 3: I start smelling like Skull winter Green or like Copenhagen

441
00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,399
Speaker 3: the winter Green. I'm like, I know that, I know

442
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,679
Speaker 3: that smell. And I look up and I'm not joking.

443
00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,640
Speaker 3: Zach had the same face mask as the one behind you.

444
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 3: He had the bar down the middle, he had the

445
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Speaker 3: one strap across the top, and he had a fat lip.

446
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 3: I swear to god it was that far outside of

447
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Speaker 3: his lips. And first play throws to Delaney Walker. Delaney

448
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 3: is running across the middle, stiff arm's a guy hurdles

449
00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 3: a guy like just absolutely barrowing through the entire Patriots

450
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Speaker 3: defense and scored. Still lost by twenty one points, but

451
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 3: damn it, I will remember that forever. It was one

452
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 3: of the coolest ding things I've ever seen in my

453
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 3: entire life. And he just did He just didn't give

454
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Speaker 3: a shit. I mean, obviously his career is not where

455
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 3: he wants it to be in all that, but like,

456
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Speaker 3: at the same time, you gotta love the situations like that,

457
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 3: guys in the locker room going to like, man, you

458
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,400
Speaker 3: see that, that's pretty cool, and he you know, and

459
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,199
Speaker 3: and you kind of respect those types of things. You

460
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 3: still got to perform and do all that stuff. But

461
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 3: Joe's got I think he has the talent. I'm not

462
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Speaker 3: a quarterback guru.

463
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Speaker 4: I don't know about Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well what would you if you're if you're the

465
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Speaker 6: head coach, what would you want to do?

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Speaker 5: Now, well, there's you know, as a broadcaster in in

467
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 5: in racing, I love our guys to be, you know,

468
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Speaker 5: really colorful and and we got to have the villains,

469
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Speaker 5: we got to have the heroes, We got to have

470
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Speaker 5: all the players and all the personalities in the in

471
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Speaker 5: the I guess controversial guys even kind of have a

472
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Speaker 5: place to bring awareness and interest to our sports get

473
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Speaker 5: people watch. So I kind of want that, and I

474
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Speaker 5: like players that are that way. I certainly wasn't, you know,

475
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Speaker 5: a fan of vanilla players throughout the Riskins histories. I

476
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Speaker 5: like John Riggins. I liked him because of the way

477
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Speaker 5: he was as a person and how he he didn't

478
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Speaker 5: give a damn either when he was you know, you know,

479
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 5: when he was playing. He kind of did his own thing.

480
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Speaker 5: But I also like guys like Daryl Green and Arn't

481
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 5: Monk that were role models and and just workming like

482
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 5: and you can depend on them. Art was Art was

483
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Speaker 5: going to run the pattern, he was going to catch

484
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Speaker 5: the ball, He's gonna get a first down. And yeah,

485
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Speaker 5: Ryan Carriden is another great guy. Uh that that's a

486
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Speaker 5: great role model. But I like the bad guys too.

487
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 5: I like the guys that that are that are mouthy.

488
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 5: Dexter Manley was one of my favorite players. He was

489
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Speaker 5: pretty rough around the edges, and so as a coach,

490
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Speaker 5: I think, you know, you definitely want your guy to

491
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Speaker 5: have some personality and bring some you know, bring some

492
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Speaker 5: color to the locker room. I imagine, just as long

493
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Speaker 5: as you're succeeding on the field, studying and doing all

494
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495
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Speaker 5: working hard and understanding everything that that is required your position.

496
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Speaker 5: I suppose that you can be whoever you want. And

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Speaker 5: I think that's why people I mentioned Jimmy Mann. I

498
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Speaker 5: think that's why he worked his deal work. He was

499
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500
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Speaker 5: and he and he played well and he was tough.

501
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Speaker 5: You know, he could, he could, he he could play

502
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Speaker 5: in some pretty difficult situations.

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Speaker 4: Dude, you're a huge football fan. This is like an

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Speaker 3: That's what it's kind of what it's become. Our podcast

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Speaker 6: Well.

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Speaker 4: I knew he was.

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Speaker 6: I knew he was a Skins fan, but I ain't

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Speaker 6: know like the depths right here.

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Speaker 5: Dude, you're you're a sport I've just been throughout the years.

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Speaker 3: I had Russ Grim as my offensive line coach.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Really he was a Yeah, it was like two years ago.

572
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Speaker 3: That guy kept he had a refrigerator in his office

573
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Speaker 3: and he had it was full of bud light at

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Speaker 3: all times and the only time. Dude, he is He

575
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Speaker 3: was like the most legendary like guy you would run

576
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Speaker 3: through a wall four and some of his stories, I mean,

577
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Speaker 3: I can't tell really any of them on a podcast,

578
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Speaker 3: but he was. He was an unbelievable guy. He like

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Speaker 3: fifteen fifteen office line was statistically the one of the

580
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Speaker 3: worst in the entire league. And then Mike Malarkey brought

581
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Speaker 3: in Russ Grim pretty much the same guys like literally

582
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Speaker 3: no one different. I think we drafted Jack Conflin in

583
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Speaker 3: the first round that year, eight overall, and statist turned

584
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Speaker 3: into the number one off offutilne in the league. And

585
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: Russ does not teach technique. He does not teach like

586
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 3: you know, stepping over a bag and waddling up to

587
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: a linebacker. What he teaches is camaraderie with the boys.

588
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 3: Like he teaches you to be like you are playing

589
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,719
Speaker 3: next to you, find out what you played for visually,

590
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 3: and then play for these guys and you're good. And

591
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: I've never been a part of a title whole line

592
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: in maybe twenty sixteen, that whole entire group was just

593
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: like always together, bandon brothers mentality, like got down and

594
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 3: dirty and I and then pretty much all that had

595
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 3: to do with Russ. So I can't imagine him back

596
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: in the day being a hog. All those guys out

597
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: there just killing people. I think they're like a turnover

598
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: margin plus like five, like it was, it was an

599
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 3: absolutely ridiculous number like that Will like the turnover margin

600
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 3: was insane.

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Speaker 6: Liked he send you, didn't he send you a photo

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00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 6: of like is don he have like a fake limb or.

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00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 4: Something like that?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, he ended up losing his leg. He cut

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Speaker 3: his he cut his foot, uh in the middle of

606
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: the year, and he never took care of it ever,

607
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 3: not once. Actually, like they literal would tell him, hey, Russ,

608
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: you gotta walk on this treadmill. He'd be like, well,

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00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: you know, I walked from here to my car and bag.

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00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: That's enough walking for me. And he just he was

611
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: this old school guy man couldn't tell him nothing and

612
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 3: ended up having some medical stuff going on when we

613
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: were playing the Patriots in divisional round where he couldn't

614
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: really stand up or anything and ended up losing his

615
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 3: right leg. But I called him up and true Russ

616
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: Grim fashion, I'm like, hey, man, like, how you doing.

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Speaker 3: You are right? He's like, yeah, you know, it's all

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Speaker 3: good socks or buy one, get one free. Now I

619
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Speaker 3: only have to pay did not literally not a care

620
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Speaker 3: in the world. Sent me a picture. He's he's out

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Speaker 3: at the pool, got his lego bandaged up with some

622
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: girl picking up like, you know, picking up a drink

623
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Speaker 3: for him and turned butts out there. He's just like

624
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: the double thumbs up, you know. And he's just the

625
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 3: man just lives his best life. He is the way

626
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 3: I don't know, like if you had all the money

627
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: in the world and didn't care and it was just like,

628
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: whatever's gonna happen happened. Then he is. He is an

629
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Speaker 3: all time guy. I can't say enough good things about Russ.

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Speaker 3: He made me a fan of the Hawks.

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Speaker 5: Him and Clinton Diddier came out to the race in

632
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Speaker 5: the mid nineties and I got a picture of me

633
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 5: and them two standing in my dad's race and holler,

634
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Speaker 5: that's awesome. Yeah, as soon as you mentioned the name man,

635
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 5: that picture comes to my mind. And I remember the

636
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Speaker 5: first time I saw you know, Joe Gibbs became an

637
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Speaker 5: owner in our sport, uh and has become extremely successful

638
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 5: championship owner. And I knew that he had owned drag

639
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 5: racing cars and been in motorsports before, and when the

640
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Speaker 5: word came that he was going to own a race

641
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Speaker 5: team in our sport, you know, I got really excited.

642
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Speaker 5: And I remember the first time I saw him at

643
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Speaker 5: a racetrack, and uh, I was screaming at him and

644
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 5: hollering at him like like a huge fan, but uh,

645
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 5: which I was, But I you know, I just couldn't.

646
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 5: I was seeing him in person. It was like seeing

647
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Speaker 5: you know, your favorite celebrity walking around and there's Joe

648
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Speaker 5: Gibbs walking it, walking around at Atlanta Motor Speedway is

649
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Speaker 5: after the race, and he's walking down through the pits.

650
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 5: Everybody's kind of cleaning up, picking stuff up and getting

651
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 5: out of there and getting ready to go home. And

652
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 5: there he is. And I was like, Joe Gibbs, Joe Gibbs,

653
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 5: I couldn't Yeah, And now.

654
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: I flipped out, man, fan boydal.

655
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 6: Were you that way when I came to the racetrack

656
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 6: and road with you?

657
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 5: It will will man, It's it's been crazy and ever

658
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 5: ever since.

659
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 6: Question, it's different now like Gibbs, Yeah, like back then,

660
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 6: I never even met a player.

661
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 5: You know, I've never even met a player. I've been

662
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 5: watching them guys on TV on the whole life, and

663
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 5: I mean, to meet a player would be insane. And uh,

664
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 5: here's the coach, the guy that leads them. And ever since,

665
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 5: you know, since then, I've been able to to be

666
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 5: around the organization a little bit and spend more time

667
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 5: and getting to know some of the guys. I mean,

668
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 5: I'll tell you one thing, man, I don't this is

669
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 5: I don't mind, I don't care. It's embarrassing, but who cares.

670
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 4: I was the Angelo Hall so oh, d Hall.

671
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was at a game. I don't even know.

672
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 5: I can't remember what game it was. But I was

673
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: walking down the hall and the d Backs are all

674
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 5: huddled up doing their thing, right, you know, twenty feet

675
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 5: from the field, getting ready to go out for the game.

676
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 5: And I know I can imagine, like what that moment's like. Uh,

677
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 5: you know, those guys are tuning into each other, They're

678
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 5: getting in their zone. There ain't nothing going on as

679
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 5: far as they know outside that bubble. And I come

680
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 5: walking by and d Angelo Hall looks and goes, what's up, Junior?

681
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 5: And I was like, I can go home now. This

682
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 5: is gonna getting better. I don't care if they went

683
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 5: by a hunter be better than this moment right here.

684
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean he was a beast and such

685
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 5: a cool guy. But for him to acknowledge me, and

686
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 5: even in that moment when they're really getting ready to

687
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 5: buckle down and and things couldn't be more serious, just

688
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 5: flew me away.

689
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 4: Man.

690
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 5: I couldn't believe. I've had a couple of other experiences

691
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 5: like that, but man, that first.

692
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: The halls all time you are huh, yeah, the hall

693
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 4: is all time.

694
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 6: It was my first year that It was the year

695
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 6: we went to the playoffs and we lost the Green

696
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 6: Bay But when we made that run and clinching division

697
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 6: against the Eagles, I had sack Sam Bradford and I

698
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 6: did this funny little like gentleman's dad thing, And like

699
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 6: the next week, U the Hall s with his kids

700
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 6: and they're playing a board game and his kids like, oh,

701
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 6: I'm doing the little company.

702
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: They start dabbing, and the Hall.

703
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,479
Speaker 6: Sends it to me, and I was just thinking, like, man, yo,

704
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 6: d Angel Halls text me what his kids are doing.

705
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 6: That's imitating me, And I thought it was like the

706
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 6: coolest thing in the world. But the Halls all time, man, Yeah,

707
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 6: he's great.

708
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 5: Yeah.

709
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 4: Sorry about all the Redskins talk, Taylor, I know, man,

710
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 4: what else?

711
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: You love it? It's interesting just to just to learn

712
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 3: about that stuff, because, like I mean, Tennessee does have history,

713
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: be coming from the from Houston and all that, but

714
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: like those team to have like one of the most

715
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: rich histories of all the NFL teams. So it's fun

716
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: to learn about you growing up. And I mean, obviously

717
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: I learned a little bit about with Will he put

718
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 3: there for so long and had so much success there

719
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: and his you know, coming from an undrafted guy. You

720
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: got it, buddy, you're putting your friends on the podcast,

721
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: all be nice. You e've been just to be able

722
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 3: to be undrafted and then to come and you know,

723
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: have the story he did. Will's you know, five ft

724
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: ten white guy doesn't belong in the NFL, but he's

725
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: been doing it. You know what I'm saying, This will

726
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: be your apro and so I don't I don't doubt

727
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 3: that was be on our team this year. Will. Would

728
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: you ever go back to the Redskins?

729
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 4: I would? I would? You know they're there, Yeah, I

730
00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: mean I I do.

731
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 6: They're like there's been that salty bitterness, but it has

732
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 6: it has nothing to do with like my uh starting point,

733
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 6: Like the Redskins is where I started everything, you know

734
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like that's where I have the majority

735
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 6: of my relationships. That's probably why I got better when

736
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 6: I was when I left, because you're so close to

737
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 6: an organization.

738
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 4: Uh.

739
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 6: But yeah, I I for sure would if they were,

740
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 6: if they through their hat in the ring, I would

741
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 6: for sure consider going back to the Redskins.

742
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: Dude?

743
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 5: Does all the turnover make that decision easier?

744
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 6: I mean there there there's a couple of decisions that, like,

745
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 6: you know, happen that you're kind of like, Okay, they're

746
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 6: they're they're going toward a better direction. I won't say

747
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 6: exactly those decisions you probably know, but but yeah, man,

748
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 6: you just knew how hard the guys worked in the

749
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 6: locker room and how hard actually a lot of those

750
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 6: coaches worked.

751
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 4: And so when when stuff wasn't happening.

752
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 6: It's such a hard place too, because DC is like

753
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 6: this media frenzy of creating bad stories and stuff like that.

754
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 6: You don't really get it as much Taylor picture like

755
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 6: ten Paul Kaharski's in DC.

756
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 4: Not that Paulkaharski.

757
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 6: I'm not saying he's just he plays the good Dylan

758
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 6: role in Tennessee. But it's more like people have real

759
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 6: agendas and vandettas with tearing some of the Redskins apart sometimes.

760
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 6: And so it's like that all the time, Like when

761
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 6: RG three was happening, and her cousins like, I won't

762
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 6: go down all.

763
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: Those rabbit holes just because we have a podcast with

764
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 4: Dayla and our junior.

765
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 6: But uh, that's why I think so interesting too, is

766
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 6: your uh you're telling these stories and it's just you know,

767
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 6: you have your own status in the NASCAR world, and

768
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 6: to hear stories about you talking about the Hall and

769
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 6: even though you didn't talk about any of the stories

770
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 6: with me, but like the old Hogs and the Redskins,

771
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 6: it's just cool to kind of hear that stuff and

772
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 6: everybody's I don't know, everybody gets excited and you seem

773
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 6: to love football and.

774
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: The Redskins and it's fascinating.

775
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, appreciate it.

776
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 4: Man.

777
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 5: We don't make our memories that we've been telling. We've

778
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 5: been telling each other for a couple years now. We're

779
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 5: going to drink some beers in Nashville.

780
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 4: Dude, I know, and no one ever believes me, And

781
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, dude.

782
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all have. We've all we've all been that

783
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: group text talking about that three of us.

784
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 6: Taylor like, I want, I actually want to do like

785
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 6: through chat, but I feel like you would think I'm

786
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 6: like weirdly flexing.

787
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 4: So I have this weird battle on my head on

788
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 4: not to say too much.

789
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: You know, Dale, will you and I will me, we'll

790
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: we'll we'll get each other's numbers from each other. It'll

791
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 3: be it'll be fine. Everything will work out. It'll be fine, Dale,

792
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 3: It'll be fine. I'm doing it right now.

793
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 6: Anyway, Taylor, Hey, here's a here's actually a good pivot point,

794
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 6: since we're talking about our new blooming friendship right here,

795
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 6: this trio Dale you have, you're known to have a

796
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 6: western a full Western town commute with a saloon where.

797
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 4: You actually host parties. And we talk about our friendship.

798
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 6: But I've yet to receive that invite.

799
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 4: Here's an opportunity. You invite the boys the next time

800
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 4: you have it.

801
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, take Taylor, he'll get he'll.

802
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: Get a private jet. He'll fl me and him to

803
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 4: Charlotte and we'll go to one of these parties. Tell

804
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 4: us about those parties.

805
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 5: Well, I have to tell you the the Western Town

806
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 5: is a legit Western town. It's it's got a saloon,

807
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 5: a big giant saloon, hotel rooms upstairs, got a bank,

808
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 5: got to share this office with two jail cells. Got

809
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 5: a church. I've actually had my friend of mine use

810
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 5: that Western Town church and all that to get married.

811
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 5: Had about one hundred people down there. It's got a

812
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 5: straight it's got to rode down the middle the whole thing, right,

813
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 5: And I was I used to live across the street

814
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 5: from my dad's race shop, and I had a part

815
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 5: I had a club in my basement of my house,

816
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 5: and we just would trash it. I mean just you

817
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 5: could do your floors. Your shoes would stick to the

818
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 5: floor by the end of the night or the next

819
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 5: day trying to clean up the place because it was

820
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 5: so messy. And so when I moved to this new house,

821
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 5: in this new piece of property, I said, I want

822
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 5: to place to party. We're still partying, we're still drinking,

823
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 5: raising hell, and I want a place to do it.

824
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 5: But I don't want it near my house because I

825
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 5: would I would, I would smoke cigarettes. I let every

826
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 5: bolth cigarettes and they're chilling and crashing and tearing up stuff,

827
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 5: and it's just like it would ruin the whole house, right,

828
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 5: And so we built a Western Town built a saloon.

829
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 5: And I saw Willie Nelson had bought this piece of property.

830
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 5: I'm watching sixty Minutes and Willie Nelson is on it.

831
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 5: And he bought this piece of property that had a

832
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 5: Western town movie set on it with a bunch of sides,

833
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 5: and he finished out the saloon so he could go

834
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 5: in there and hang out. And I thought, that's great idea,

835
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 5: That's what I'll do. So we drew it on a napkin,

836
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 5: and we hired a bunch of local contractors. They came

837
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 5: out here and they built it, and we run power

838
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 5: to it. And we've had it down there for fifteen, sixteen,

839
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 5: eighteen years. It's been down in a long time. And

840
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 5: we used to party all the time, like every week

841
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 5: after the race on to about Wednesday, and then we'd

842
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 5: chill out. But these days we don't party down there

843
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 5: as much as I wish we did. But now it's

844
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 5: like we have it now. We use it like for

845
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 5: family day, for our company outings, and I've rented it

846
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 5: out for commercials and music video shoots and stuff like that.

847
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 5: And but the beer cooler still down there, is still cold,

848
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 5: there's still beer in it, there's still liquor as on

849
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 5: the bar. And anytime you guys want to come over here,

850
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 5: I guess when I have a party, I have to

851
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 5: let you know if make it out.

852
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 3: Yay, hold on, I'm fired up Dale. I'm from from

853
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: Cave Creek, Arizona. All right, people in that town, it's

854
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: literally a small town. There's no franchise lout in it.

855
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: We let a dairy queen in the eighties and that

856
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 3: was a huge deal, right, the whole town gathered around

857
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 3: for that thing, very fired up. But well, yeah, but

858
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 3: it's got like a nice charm.

859
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't want to compare. I really don't want

860
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 6: to disrespect them.

861
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: We shouldn't we just and so you own a like

862
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 3: just owning a western town. I don't know. I don't

863
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: know a bus, and I'm very proud of that.

864
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 5: But that's where that's how it starts.

865
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: What's that? Oh, oh, Jude, I'm I'm one hundred percent.

866
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this. When we have

867
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: a bus with your with your number on it, of

868
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 3: course I know. It's pretty killer. It's pretty killer. I

869
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 3: love to say. It's the reason why we bought it.

870
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: It was two grand, that's why we bought it. But

871
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 3: the character that came with it was beautiful. It doesn't

872
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 3: have all.

873
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 5: I have a bus, what you do? I have a

874
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 5: bus on my property and it's the same as y'all's.

875
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 5: It's got a couple uh dynants in it. We put

876
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 5: some old old bench seats like out of an old

877
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 5: Chevy Seville and stuff like that in it to sit

878
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 5: and chill. And it's like a bar inside the bus

879
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 5: and we painted it like the Bull Durham bus from

880
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 5: the movie Bull Durham.

881
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, the great movie, great movie.

882
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 5: Five hundred dollar bus. All we got into it and

883
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 5: it's a great place to sit and have a drink.

884
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 5: But uh, that's how it starts, man. You get a bus.

885
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 5: Then the next thing, you know, you want something a

886
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 5: little larger, you want something a little different. And I

887
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 5: went with the western town theme. I don't know which

888
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 5: guy what you guys will go Taylor.

889
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 4: Taylor would for sure do that, dude. I can see

890
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 4: him like loving dude.

891
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I think a western town might be

892
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: the next move on the start looking for places. I'll

893
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: probably I'll probably buy the whole town of Bonta, Missouri

894
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 3: and go make myself a western town.

895
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 5: We started with basically just the square Yeah, we just

896
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 5: started with the saloon. I mean, it's just a square

897
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,959
Speaker 5: room and that's what it started as. And we, over

898
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 5: a period of several years, just kept adding things to it.

899
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, we got to have a Berkemtowe shed,

900
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 5: so we built a mercantile shed, and then we had

901
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 5: to have a doc. We had to have a place

902
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 5: a barber. Western town's got to have the barber shop. Man,

903
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 5: It's just a facade. It's like a it's like the

904
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 5: front of it, and it's like two feet deep inside

905
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 5: the windows, and you just got kinds of stuff sitting

906
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 5: in there that makes it look like a barber shop.

907
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 5: It's not real, but the saloon's entirely functional.

908
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 4: Have you been?

909
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: Have you been to Catalina Island and areas in California?

910
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 4: I have it.

911
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 3: Okay, So I had this great I made. I'm in

912
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 3: California right now. I mean as neat as you can

913
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,959
Speaker 3: actually see the island from where I'm at. Weird, flex,

914
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 3: That was stupid but.

915
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 4: To say.

916
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 3: But so I had this great idea last year. It's

917
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 3: like Valentine's Day weekend. I'm like, you know what, I'm

918
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 3: gonna take my wife to Catalina Island. So we go.

919
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 3: We had a helicopter. The helicopter takes Catalina Island. That's

920
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,959
Speaker 3: part of the story. I'm not actually trying to flex again,

921
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 3: And uh, there's actually two parts. This turn just turned

922
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 3: into a two part story. So buckle Updale, and we're

923
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 3: flying with this guy, and this guy's telling all these

924
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 3: crazy stories to us, and he starts telling us about

925
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 3: how he was a pilot for a bunch of athletes

926
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: and he was a he was Kobe Bryant's pilot and

927
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 3: he would fly Kobe everywhere all the time. And long

928
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 3: story short, like of that story, there's two, there's none

929
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: coming up. That was the pilot that was with Kobe

930
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: when he unfortunately passed away. It was it was crazy.

931
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 3: It was it was a crazy game.

932
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 6: But he was an.

933
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 3: Unbelievable he was Ulie guy. From a little bit of

934
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 3: time we got to know him. But we flew to

935
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 3: Catalina and in the front when we first flapt, You're like, wow,

936
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 3: this is the cutest town I've ever seen in my

937
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 3: entire life. It's like this tiny little island. They have buffalo.

938
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: It's beautiful. And then you get like one block in

939
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 3: and you realize, like it's just a It literally is

940
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 3: like a stage prop set. Like everything's nice in front,

941
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 3: and then you get like you get like one block in,

942
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: it's kind of like, you know, like there's stuff all

943
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 3: over the ground. Things are kind of dirty. It's it's

944
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 3: a it's a little rough and we were there in

945
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: the winter time, so it wasn't like a tourist time, Mike,

946
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: it was it was ah, that little Harry there for

947
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 3: a second. Dale it was a little sketchy getting out

948
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 3: of there, a little nervous.

949
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 5: What about the buffalo. So there's this buffalo hanging out.

950
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: So there on the island. Some guy and like, oh,

951
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: took him from Idaho or whatever and brought all these

952
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: buffalo to Catalen Island to film a Western movie. And

953
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 3: once he finished the Western movie, he's like, well it

954
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: toss more to take these buffalo back. He just left

955
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: the buffalo there. And now they're like and now like

956
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: indigenous there. I guess like they can't go back. Hold

957
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 3: they like they've like had generations of like this born

958
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: and now these now these buffalo are just like well

959
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 3: we're just Cali buffalo. Now we just we just chill

960
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: out here on this two mile radius island. It's a

961
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 3: creat it's a it's a weird it's a weird setup

962
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 3: because it's very it's all based on tourism. And but

963
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 3: there's a high school, there's like an actual town and

964
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 3: then they'll like to get on ferries go to Long

965
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: Beach to play football games. Ah yeah, So it's a

966
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: it's a weird setup, not even airport or nothing. But yeah,

967
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 3: that's my story about kind of a western town.

968
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 6: The second business for the boys comes to us from FreeFly.

969
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 6: A couple of weeks ago. I got a box of

970
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 6: clothing from this company, and you know, I think they're

971
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 6: based out of don't quote me on this. I think

972
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 6: they're based out of North Carolina, just because one of

973
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 6: my good buddies was telling me about free Fly before

974
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 6: they even shipped us this box. And it's not because

975
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,959
Speaker 6: they were shipping it to us. I just heard about

976
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 6: it already, and so then when they shifted there, I

977
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 6: was like, hey, yo, free Fly just shipped us a

978
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 6: bunch of stuff, and he's like, yeah, let me know

979
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 6: how the clothing is. The clothing is made from Get this.

980
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 6: The clothing is made from bamboo, butter soft bamboo, and

981
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 6: it's fucking unbelievable. You take this stuff out and you

982
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 6: feel it, and you're like your first thought is like, Okay,

983
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 6: it's gonna be another clothing brand that kind of feels

984
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 6: like the polyester, like the you know, the dry fit

985
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 6: stuff you wear for workouts. I grab it, I pick

986
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 6: it up on my Holy shit, I'm like, hey, babe,

987
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 6: like check out this material.

988
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 4: Throw it over to her.

989
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 6: She grabs and she's like, Yeah, this is like the

990
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 6: softest shit I've ever I've ever felt.

991
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 4: She's like, who's this from? Like the cat's called free Fly.

992
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 4: I can't wait. I've been wearing it, you know, just

993
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 4: on our walks.

994
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 6: Around the area right now, around the green ways or

995
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 6: by the park because obviously quarantine. But I can't wait

996
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 6: to get on the golf course with these bad boys

997
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 6: working out in it, all that fun stuff. Here's the

998
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 6: background on free Fly. Free Fly was founded by Montana

999
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 6: by a Montana fishing guy and two Nike marketers. They

1000
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,399
Speaker 6: identified a big problem in the outdoor world with their

1001
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 6: clothing because it was too complicated and too uncomfortable.

1002
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 4: Together, they quit their jobs, big.

1003
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 6: Swinging dick move right there, and made it their mission

1004
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 6: to create the most comfortable shirt imaginable. On top of

1005
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 6: being super super comfortable, free Flies bamboo clothing has upf

1006
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 6: some protection, wix away moisture and won't hold odor hold odor.

1007
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 6: I can attest to that. I'm a big pit guy.

1008
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 6: I'm a big pit sweater dude, and low backsweater, and

1009
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 6: this stuff wicks away at the pits and it doesn't.

1010
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 4: Hold your odor.

1011
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 6: So you know that smell when you first put on

1012
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 6: one of those dry fits from like Nike or Ditas

1013
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 6: or one of them, And usually you gotta wash it

1014
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 6: right away because you can smell yourself because the material

1015
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 6: just doesn't mesh well. Not with free Fly. Odor doesn't

1016
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 6: show right away. It wicks away moisture. All this mon

1017
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,959
Speaker 6: stuff from fishing to hitting the gym or lounging around

1018
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 6: the house. This stuff is unreal comfortable. Boys, you can

1019
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 6: get twenty percent off. Oh in girls, my bad shot

1020
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 6: out to girls too. You can get twenty percent off

1021
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 6: when you visit FreeFly apparel dot com backslash bussing again.

1022
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 6: That's FreeFly apparel dot Com backslash bussing for twenty percent

1023
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 6: off your entire order.

1024
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 4: Go check them out. They're for the boys.

1025
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 6: If they're for the boys, we're for those boys. Now

1026
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 6: back to this Banger podcast with Dale Junior. Shout out

1027
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 6: to boy Dale, it's a mac. I can't wait for

1028
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 6: you guys to finish this episode. Yo, Taylor bringing up

1029
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 6: the Kobe Bryant's pilot. You actually gotten a recent crash back?

1030
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 4: What was that in August last year?

1031
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 5: Yeah? Sometimes can you.

1032
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 4: Can you tell us about that a little bit?

1033
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 6: And then can you also tell us probably how you

1034
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 6: guys probably sat back and reflected after seeing the Kobe

1035
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 6: news and thinking you were in something you know, similar,

1036
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 6: something that could have been you know.

1037
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 5: So yeah, well you know the you know, where do

1038
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 5: I even start the We were in a really you know,

1039
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 5: we were in a bad accident and very scary, you know.

1040
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 5: We I've flown all my life, and I think, you know,

1041
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 5: I look back and I flew wrote in king Air

1042
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 5: prop planes and Brazilians prop planes and just anything. I

1043
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 5: never have questioned it, right, I got on it. Here,

1044
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 5: here we go, We're going somewhere. I don't even I

1045
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 5: don't even care when I never questioned it. I got

1046
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 5: on every plane whatever. I never looked at it and went,

1047
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 5: I don't want to get on that. I figured it's good,

1048
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 5: We're good. I trust. I trust what's happening here, no

1049
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 5: matter what it was. And we fly as race teams.

1050
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 5: We fly private even on you know, even the team

1051
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 5: planes are privately owned aircraft. We rarely have ever flew commercial.

1052
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 5: And so you know, for all these years, you know,

1053
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 5: I just took it for granted that I was you know,

1054
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 5: putting my trust in all the people that either you know,

1055
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 5: were the mechanics on these planes or the pilots on

1056
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 5: these planes, and and the history of the plane itself.

1057
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 5: So I got a brand new plane from Cessna. It's

1058
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 5: a really nice plane, and I'm we're flying it. We've

1059
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 5: been flying it a while, and we've landed it into

1060
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 5: that airport before, and it was a great day. And

1061
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 5: we're flying on in there, and I remember being a

1062
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 5: couple of miles from the airport looking down the ground.

1063
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,919
Speaker 5: Everything's going just like it's supposed to go, and uh,

1064
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 5: we came down in to land and we landed.

1065
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 4: We bounced.

1066
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 5: Basically when you land a plane, you kind of want

1067
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 5: to land the rear tires first, obviously, and then then

1068
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 5: bring the tail, bring the nose down. And when we landed,

1069
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 5: we landed sort of flat, and a plane bounced back

1070
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 5: up in the air. And when it landed the first time,

1071
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 5: it shut all the blinds and so now we can't

1072
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 5: see out. We just know we bounced up in the air.

1073
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 5: And I don't know if we're ten feet in the

1074
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 5: air or one hundred feet feet in the air, right,

1075
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 5: but I know we got to get down on that runway,

1076
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 5: and it's not a really long runway, and we don't

1077
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 5: have a lot of time to be bouncing and taking

1078
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 5: up you know, taking up time trying to get the

1079
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 5: plane on the ground. So we came down again just

1080
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 5: as hard, if not harder, and uh, the land again

1081
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 5: on the right side broke again. You know, the the uh,

1082
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 5: the the blinds are shut, so you've got no reference

1083
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 5: of what's going on outside. You don't know what you

1084
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 5: don't know what's up and up, up or down left

1085
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 5: and right. You're just kind of in this tube moving

1086
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 5: And so I could tell the plane that was tilted

1087
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 5: when we came down the same time, and I thought,

1088
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 5: in my mind, I'm like, mechanically, we're broken the right

1089
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 5: side gear and now we're on the wing and that

1090
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 5: wing dragon and that tail, that that stuff dragging sort

1091
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 5: of turned the plane started to turn the plane, and

1092
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 5: in my mind again the mechanical and narrow race car

1093
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 5: driver Mine starts thinking, now we're the plane's turned, the

1094
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 5: plane's turning with the wing, the left wing up in

1095
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 5: the air, and that's that's probably gonna try to create

1096
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 5: some lift and bring the plane up in the air,

1097
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 5: and you know, and and cartwheel the plane, So you know,

1098
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 5: you're thinking you're gonna be You're you're gonna die. You know,

1099
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 5: you're thinking in that moment that that this is this

1100
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 5: is how it's gonna happen. And so you're you know,

1101
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 5: in a lot of situations when you're for example, you're

1102
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 5: racing a car and it's dangerous and you're crashing, you

1103
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 5: never think ever that you never give up hope that

1104
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 5: you're you're gonna get out one piece or you're gonna

1105
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 5: you know, you never think about getting injured. But anytime

1106
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 5: trying to put this in and trying to articulate this,

1107
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 5: but you know, you assume risk. You know, when you

1108
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 5: when you're running out a guy and you're gonna tackle

1109
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 5: him and you lined up for a really bad angle

1110
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 5: and you're gonna hit this guy really hard and it

1111
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 5: might hurt you, it might hurt him, but you're taking

1112
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 5: that risk. You assume that. You know it. You know

1113
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 5: you're not gonna die. You don't never think in your

1114
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 5: mind you could die, but you might hurt yourself and

1115
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 5: you might hurt him. But you got to take you know,

1116
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 5: you put yourself in a position. You do that with racing.

1117
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 5: You never do that with airplanes, and so here we

1118
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 5: are and the plane starts to starts to turn, and

1119
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 5: I'm thinking it's gonna lift, create and lift like that,

1120
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 5: like the way it's positioned, and it ended up going

1121
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,959
Speaker 5: off the runway, which broke the left side gear and

1122
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 5: uh got the planet, got the plane back on the

1123
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 5: ground to where it wasn't going to create lyft underneath it,

1124
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 5: and then it got really rough. We haen we we

1125
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 5: went down into sort of a ditch ravine area and

1126
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 5: when it hit that, that was extremely violent, and we

1127
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 5: slid a little bit further and it came to stop,

1128
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 5: and uh, I started hollering for Amy. The whole interior

1129
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 5: of the plane doesn't isn't recognizable anymore. Panels and things

1130
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 5: are or are or moot missing and loosen in different places.

1131
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 5: Everything's moved, and uh, you know, just trying to In

1132
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 5: that moment, you just sort of think, am I broken?

1133
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 5: And I got my daughter Ailah, and I got I

1134
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 5: got to look at her and check her, and she's,

1135
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 5: you know, screaming, and I'm thinking, God, please don't let

1136
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 5: nothing be wrong with her. Please don't let nothing be

1137
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 5: wrong with my girl. Right, And so I look at

1138
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 5: her real quick and I said, you know, as far

1139
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 5: as I can tell, and just this split second, you

1140
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 5: know she's gonna be okay. I hand her to Amy.

1141
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 5: Amy's trying to get her barons, and I was like, Amy, check,

1142
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 5: I look really good. Just that's all you need to

1143
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 5: do right now is look at her and check her legs, arms,

1144
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 5: and check her head as she gonna you know, she

1145
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 5: got any kind of bruise on her head or head

1146
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 5: her head or anything, I don't know. And so I

1147
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 5: gave Amy that responsibility in that moment. And then I

1148
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 5: because I wanted to find a way out. I wanted

1149
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 5: to figure out how I knew we had a hatch

1150
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 5: in the back. You know, we got the door, the

1151
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 5: planes kind of leaned over. I'm thinking, I don't know

1152
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 5: if we know them the front door, because that way

1153
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 5: of the plane's position, probably not gonna be able to

1154
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 5: get that open. So I'm thinking, get that hatch in

1155
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 5: the back of it. Let's create an opportunity to leave.

1156
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 5: So I went back there and I'm seeing smoke coming

1157
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 5: out of the toilet, and so Black Dark picked smoke.

1158
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, I hollered up to the front.

1159
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 5: I was like, we're on fire.

1160
00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 4: We've gotta go.

1161
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 5: Y'all need the plane. The pilot sure up. They're doing

1162
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 5: all they're trained to do a series of things when

1163
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 5: they're in the situation. They got to fire off the extinguishers.

1164
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 5: They got to shut this down, turn them, you know.

1165
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 5: They you can't climb, you can't leave motors running and

1166
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 5: carry it on. So they're doing all the things as

1167
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 5: fast as they can to get everything to where the

1168
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 5: plane is as safe as possible and the circumstances it's in.

1169
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 5: So they're up. They're doing that right when when when

1170
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 5: I saw the smoke, I was like, yeah, come on, man,

1171
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 5: we're on fire. We gotta we gotta move a little faster.

1172
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 5: I couldn't get that hatch open. And uh, I'm I'm

1173
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 5: trying to like, he'll get that hatch open, and I

1174
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 5: can't get it open. That smoke's getting worse and worse.

1175
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 5: We'd we'd went through a chain link fence and had

1176
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 5: wrapped around that door and wouldn't allow the door to

1177
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 5: open away I needed it to. So we're trying to

1178
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 5: get that open. It ain't happening. And I turned back

1179
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 5: and I hollered at the other pilot and I said,

1180
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 5: I can't get it open. Amy hollers at him and says,

1181
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 5: try the front door one more time because we had

1182
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 5: tried it and couldn't get it to move. And he

1183
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 5: goes up there to the front door and turns a

1184
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 5: handle and kicks it and it popped open about two inches,

1185
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 5: I mean two feet. And so we climbed up the stairs.

1186
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 5: So the stairs are now it's the stairs when the plane.

1187
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 5: When the door ups up, you know, you walk up

1188
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 5: the stairs. Well, now we're walking. We're climbing up the

1189
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 5: bottom of the stairs or to get out of the plane.

1190
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 5: And so the lead pilot goes to get out of

1191
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 5: the plane to build. Then he's like, hand me the baby.

1192
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 5: So I go up there to hand him the baby.

1193
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 5: Now I get out of the plane, and I'm still

1194
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 5: a bit.

1195
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 4: I can't.

1196
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 5: In the entire time all this is going on, I

1197
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 5: still am not one hundred percent sure that Island is okay.

1198
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 5: During this whole process, I'm still wanting I still need

1199
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 5: more information about Isla, my little girl. You know, it's

1200
00:55:55,760 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 5: like dominating my thoughts and I still, you know, with

1201
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 5: my head injuries and the issues that I've had with that,

1202
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 5: I'm thinking, man, she's not even two years old.

1203
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 4: Yet she can't.

1204
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 5: I can't have her dealing with stuff like that. And

1205
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 5: so anyways, I'm just I need to know. I need

1206
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 5: to see her, right. And so I took a step

1207
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 5: to go because he took off running. The pilot I

1208
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 5: gave him is leant and he takes off running. I

1209
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 5: climb out and I'm like, come back, I gotta see you.

1210
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 5: I got check ala damn he's running. I can hardly walk.

1211
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 5: My back is tore all the hell and I could

1212
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 5: hardly move. And so he took off until turn around

1213
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 5: and I'm helping Amy get out, and the damn grass

1214
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 5: was on fire underneath us. It was crazy as hell.

1215
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 5: It was like in the movies. And then we had

1216
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 5: to pull our dog out and then our second pilot

1217
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 5: come out. It was just a really I haven't talked

1218
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 5: about her relived it in a long in a while,

1219
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 5: but it was very, very scary, you know. And then

1220
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 5: you're riding to then they put Amy in her own

1221
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 5: ambulance with island. Then I'm in an ambulance by myself,

1222
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:10,360
Speaker 5: and I still don't know if Island's one hundred percent,

1223
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 5: and I'm really tore up emotionally. The guy riding in

1224
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 5: an ambulance. Did the coolest thing ever. He calls the

1225
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 5: other ambulance on his cell phone and puts my wife

1226
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 5: on the phone and gives it to me and so

1227
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 5: I can talk to her. And I said, you know,

1228
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 5: finally I was like, Amy, got a chance to really

1229
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 5: look at Isla and take take you know, see what's

1230
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 5: going on with her. She okay, And you know, so

1231
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 5: I kind of finally got some relief of because that

1232
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 5: was so stressful. And you know, Amy, I've been in

1233
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 5: race car crashes, flips, just really bad stuff, caught on fire,

1234
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 5: done all kinds of crazy stuff in race cars. So

1235
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,959
Speaker 5: when you crash a car, even really badly, the first

1236
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 5: thought that you really have is, well, we got another

1237
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 5: car in the hauller because we take two to the racetrack.

1238
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 5: It's a backup car, is what they call it. I

1239
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 5: wonder how good that backup car is? Is it as

1240
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 5: good as the one I just crashed? That's your first thought.

1241
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 5: You don't think about damn, that was a close near

1242
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 5: death experience. You don't never even think about stuff like that.

1243
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 5: You just think, man, I gotta get back on the track.

1244
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 5: How do how good is the other car? Let's go,

1245
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 5: you know, load that loaded, load to crash. One up,

1246
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 5: we'll get the other one out. Let's go. And so

1247
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 5: I was seasoned, and when it happened, I got out,

1248
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 5: you know, all that happened. As soon as I knew

1249
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 5: everybody was okay and everybody was healthy, I went into, Okay,

1250
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 5: what's this? Uh you know, how what what's the next move?

1251
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 5: What do we need to do. There's got to be

1252
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 5: some rules, regulations, steps we need to take. Uhh, the

1253
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 5: financial ask, you know, fallout or whatever.

1254
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 4: You know.

1255
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 5: I'm starting to go into that mode, you know. And

1256
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 5: uh and and man, I really in a week was

1257
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 5: back on a plane, or even sooner was back on

1258
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,479
Speaker 5: a plane flying now, a little bit more nervous about

1259
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 5: landings and so forth, but I got right back to it.

1260
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 5: Amy on the other hand, had a harder time with it.

1261
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:09,040
Speaker 5: She that was like completely life shattering or altering for her,

1262
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 5: and she still struggles today with getting comfortable to fly.

1263
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 4: Now.

1264
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 5: I admit, I cannot put my daughter on a plane

1265
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 5: right now. I still ain't. She remembers it happening when

1266
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 5: we take her own planes now, she has a reaction

1267
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 5: when we take off, when we hit turbulence when we land.

1268
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 5: She used to not you know, but now she has reactions.

1269
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 5: She remembers something about that day. And now she gets older,

1270
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 5: five ten, twenty forty years old, She's not going to

1271
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 5: remember what happened to her when she was younger than

1272
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 5: two years old, but for now she does, you know.

1273
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 5: So I don't like taking her own planes. I don't

1274
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 5: like putting her through that stress. I feel selfish because

1275
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 5: I'm taking her where I want to go. She has

1276
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 5: no idea where we're going, no idea. She's not her

1277
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 5: wish to get on this plane and go to wherever

1278
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 5: we're going in our destination, and I feel selfish for

1279
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 5: doing it. So I don't like putting her on planes

1280
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 5: because she doesn't enjoy it and it stresses her out.

1281
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 5: So that's the hard part for me. Otherwise I'm comfortable.

1282
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 5: I've already gotten another plane.

1283
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 4: I'm back.

1284
01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 5: I still kept one of my pilots from that from

1285
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 5: that incident, and I'm back in the air and I'm

1286
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 5: back going. We went to uh We went to therapy.

1287
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 5: I believe in therapy, you know, I believe in talking

1288
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 5: to somebody you've got problems. We all got stuff. We

1289
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 5: got to deal with. I got stuff from my childhood

1290
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 5: that I still need work on and probably don't put

1291
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 5: enough time in. But so we went right to a

1292
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 5: therapist to say, hey, is there anything you can do.

1293
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:46,120
Speaker 5: We're ready to work. So me and Amy did a

1294
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 5: little bit of work there which helped us. She continues

1295
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 5: to do some work with some with some with some

1296
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 5: folks to to help her understand how to comfortably fly

1297
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 5: and get back and you know in the flying her

1298
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 5: on a regular basis. Uh, but she's way behind, you

1299
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 5: know me, She's probably where any of anybody else would

1300
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 5: be given the situation. But I think, uh, you know,

1301
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 5: when when you hear about you know you, I don't

1302
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 5: you know, I don't know how to I don't know

1303
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 5: how to articulate the the emotions when you see something

1304
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 5: like that happened to Kobe. I think the the initial

1305
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 5: reaction that you have is that you know, there's lives

1306
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 5: destroyed and and people's hearts are broken. I can I

1307
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 5: kind of related more to losing my dad than than

1308
01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 5: than our plane crash, right because you know, Kobe lost

1309
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 5: his life, his daughter and and and other people on

1310
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 5: the plane. There's people here that are hurting and and

1311
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 5: sad and just there's a hole and man, it never

1312
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 5: you're never gonna feel You're never gonna it's never gonna

1313
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 5: be the same, you know, And so that that that

1314
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 5: part is that's the worst part, is that you know

1315
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 5: that their hearts are so broken, and uh, you know,

1316
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 5: and and I don't you know, I always uh you know,

1317
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 5: I feel like I feel like that, I don't know,

1318
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 5: I always felt like I don't know if this is

1319
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 5: a defense mechanism, if it's b S or what. But

1320
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 5: I felt like when I got here, my destiny was

1321
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 5: already made, you know, when I when I was born.

1322
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 5: I know I'm responsible for the decisions I make. And

1323
01:02:58,280 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 5: this might be getting a little bit in the weeds,

1324
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 5: but I feel like that I'm just gonna live my

1325
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 5: life and whatever's destined to happen to me, however I'm

1326
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 5: supposed to go, is how I was already decided. And

1327
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 5: so that I think it's probably BS to be honest

1328
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 5: with you, but it leaves me without responsibility of it.

1329
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 4: You know.

1330
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 5: I know I need to make what decision to do

1331
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 5: what I need to do for my family. I don't

1332
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 5: need to do anything stupid. It's gonna put me at risk,

1333
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 5: but you know, I it's the only way that I

1334
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 5: can live without fear, without worry. I lost my mom

1335
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 5: last year to lung cancer, and for for for the

1336
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 5: last probably six or eight months, I have done nothing

1337
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 5: but worry about dying and leaving my daughter too young?

1338
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 5: You know, Man, am I gonna be around when she's

1339
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,479
Speaker 5: If I died at sixty seven or so, like my mom,

1340
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 5: my daughter would be twenty two. I mean, how would

1341
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 5: that affect her? God? I got to live longer, you know.

1342
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 5: And so stupid. I know that's silly. And my wife

1343
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,240
Speaker 5: is annoyed to death by my by mine by the

1344
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 5: way I am, I'm just weird, but.

1345
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 3: So I real quick, real quick, I don't I don't

1346
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 3: think what you're saying at all is bs. I think

1347
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 3: it's almost a uniquely beautiful way to live life, because

1348
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 3: I mean, yes, you don't want to leave your family,

1349
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 3: tor really and I kind of a very similar in

1350
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 3: the way you are, as like, I'm kind of just

1351
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 3: I don't want to live in it and the fear

1352
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 3: I don't want to go If I go out in

1353
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 3: the ocean for whatever reason, I don't want to think,

1354
01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 3: oh what if a shark gets me? Some things that

1355
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 3: are statistically probably not going to happen a plane accident,

1356
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 3: for instance, Like statistically, that's not going to happen to you,

1357
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 3: you know, And it's I think the way you're living

1358
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 3: is a lot of ways that people should try to

1359
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 3: live because you don't live with barriers. You don't live

1360
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 3: in a situation where I can't do this or I

1361
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 3: can't do that. If anything, it seems like an amplifize

1362
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 3: because I hear the emotion in your voice. It seems

1363
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 3: like an amplifize. The love you have for your family,

1364
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 3: the love you have for your daughter, the love you

1365
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 3: have for your next kid is like you're making you

1366
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 3: don't know how long you're gonna have. And like, I

1367
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 3: think that's the crazy thing about Kobe is like I mean,

1368
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 3: I grew up watching Kobe. Like everybody talks about Kobe

1369
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 3: Lebron and Michael Jordan, and it's like I didn't never,

1370
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 3: never really saw Michael play, you know, And I've obviously

1371
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 3: Lebron played like Kobe was like a figure, like an

1372
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 3: untouched figure, like a Greek god type of guy that

1373
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 3: we see so little in the sports world. And for

1374
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 3: someone like him to go in a situation that's so sudden.

1375
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 3: It really puts things into perspective. But it also shows

1376
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 3: that like if you look at the way Kobe lived

1377
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 3: his life, if you look at the way he handled himself,

1378
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 3: what he did in such a short time when he

1379
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 3: was retired, I think he wanted, uh what he was

1380
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:57,479
Speaker 3: nominated for a gold and glower, an Emmy or something.

1381
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 3: I think he won an Emmy. His family loved him,

1382
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 3: had four daughters, he had, he was he did so

1383
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 3: much with with quality that like the quantity doesn't matter.

1384
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: I mean, we can all live alive to eighty and

1385
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 3: be shitty, or we can you know, or we can

1386
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 3: be lived to forty and be an incredible person, you know.

1387
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 3: And that's that's the decisions we make on a day

1388
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 3: to day basis. So I think, I mean, I understand

1389
01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 3: why you would think that's BS, but in a lot

1390
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 3: of ways, I think it's a beautiful thing. And I

1391
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,400
Speaker 3: try to live my way, well my life that way

1392
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 3: as well as trying to let's not fear of the

1393
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 3: unknown of the possibilities. Now, I'm sure it's very different

1394
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 3: when you've been in situations like that plane crash, like

1395
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 3: some of the car crashes you've been in watching situations

1396
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 3: like your dad like I can't, I can't imagine those things,

1397
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 3: and then to watch situation like what happened your dad

1398
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 3: and then say, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep I'm

1399
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 3: gonna race, I'm gonna keep racing. I'm gonna keep doing this.

1400
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 3: That's It says a lot about your character and how

1401
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 3: much you do believe that you're you know, on an

1402
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 3: arrow from point A to point B, you know, and

1403
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 3: and without anything getting in your way.

1404
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 5: That's the way I feel. I feel like that my

1405
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 5: destinies already chosen, and I live that way because I

1406
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 5: don't want to live in fear. I don't want to.

1407
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 5: I don't want to avoid opportunity and avoid experiences out

1408
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 5: of fear. And and I don't want to certainly imprint

1409
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 5: this on my this fear on my child, you know,

1410
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 5: and and and create you know, fears and unrealistic things

1411
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 5: for her. So but I do you know that there's

1412
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 5: I'm just now getting sort of free of. I was

1413
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 5: really way free of the plain incident that that for

1414
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 5: me has subsided pretty good, and I don't have it

1415
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 5: doesn't affect me in my day to day. It took

1416
01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 5: a while me and Amy would sit around and just

1417
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 5: tell each other every five minutes. Man, I just thought

1418
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 5: about it. Man, I just thought about it. Man, I

1419
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,959
Speaker 5: just I just thought about that moment. We were doing

1420
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 5: it all day long, every day, and we don't anymore.

1421
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 5: It doesn't come up in my thoughts like it used

1422
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 5: to my mom's death. That's starting to subside a little bit,

1423
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 5: that worry of dying at fear of man, did I

1424
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 5: take care of my body? Did I do the things

1425
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 5: I needed to do to to give myself the opportunity

1426
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:15,680
Speaker 5: to to see my child grow up and and and

1427
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 5: be who she can be. All that worry is starting

1428
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 5: to subside a little bit. It sucks, though, how those

1429
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 5: events in your life can certainly grab a hold of

1430
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 5: you and steer you the wrong way or get your

1431
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 5: you know, get your mental your mental state sort of

1432
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 5: sort of locked up for for a while. And that's

1433
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 5: why I believe in the therapy, you know, just going

1434
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 5: and if you need it, if you need to talk

1435
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,759
Speaker 5: to somebody. I mean, there's some really really good therapists

1436
01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 5: out there. Me and Amy's met this one lady named Jane,

1437
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 5: and uh, I was a real real bad boyfriend, just

1438
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 5: not I just not. I just was. I can't. I

1439
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 5: had no concern for Amy what made her happy. It

1440
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,799
Speaker 5: was about me what I wanted to do in the moment.

1441
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 5: And man, I was selfish, so selfish, I'm why she

1442
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,560
Speaker 5: hung in there, but she did. But we met this

1443
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 5: lame named Jane Man and James fixed it, fixed me,

1444
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 5: fixed she fixed my ship.

1445
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 6: Man.

1446
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 5: She made me the man I wanted to be and

1447
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 5: the husband I wanted to be. And we didn't meet,

1448
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 5: and Amy would have never made it have we not

1449
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 5: met Jane, you know. And I think I'd been through

1450
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 5: therapy when I was a kid, and but I never

1451
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 5: really believed in it like that until until we met Jane.

1452
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 5: When Jane did what she did for me and my

1453
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 5: wife and our relationship, she basically guaranteed me a happy

1454
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 5: life in marriage, something I wanted but didn't know how

1455
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 5: to obtain. And uh, ever since then, man, I've been

1456
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 5: I've been a believer in it. If you if I

1457
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 5: feel like I need to need a little tune up,

1458
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 5: I call her up.

1459
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 3: That's awesome.

1460
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's man. I appreciate your insight.

1461
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 6: You have every reason in the world to kind of

1462
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 6: have those defense mechanisms up or worrying because of you know,

1463
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:03,679
Speaker 6: all the experiences you've been through with Lucy and your mom,

1464
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,839
Speaker 6: your dad, the plane crash, like being a father, a husband,

1465
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,679
Speaker 6: all this stuff. So I love I think the insights

1466
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 6: awesome here and we definitely appreciate you being so open

1467
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 6: about and candid with everything like that was I could

1468
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 6: you can, like Taylor said, you can definitely see the

1469
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 6: passion and the emotion and everything behind what you're saying

1470
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 6: with I know we're running out of time, but we

1471
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 6: would be We would be terrible bosses to our to

1472
01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 6: our young little Zach who's listening behind the screen right now.

1473
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 6: Who I You know, everybody is a huge day fan

1474
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 6: in the racing room, but this man, Zach, he did

1475
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,719
Speaker 6: not sleep with this night, and I know he would.

1476
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 6: We have to bring him on the same a couple

1477
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 6: of times. Maybe ask about I racing or your Hall

1478
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 6: of Fame. Nudge like he's all about it, bro Zach,

1479
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 6: get on here, dud, Zach, let's go back.

1480
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, no, I appreciate you talking to me.

1481
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1482
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: They I don't know if they hyped it up enough.

1483
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 2: But I'm a huge fan and I admire you a

1484
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 2: lot for the person you are the racer that you are,

1485
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 2: just your social presence, you as a business person. So yeah,

1486
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 2: so it's it's an honor to finally meet you after

1487
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 2: twenty years.

1488
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 5: I guess I've been very nice. Yeah, that's real kind Zach,

1489
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 5: thank you A question for him?

1490
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I got a question or two for you.

1491
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 2: And now I had to I had to really think

1492
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 2: about this. It took me a while, but I guess

1493
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 2: I started watching you, like I guess my younger like

1494
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:35,559
Speaker 2: teenager years, And that's kind of like when like Steve Latart, y'all,

1495
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 2: you and Steve Watart got together. Yep. So do you

1496
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 2: feel like you as a person or like you as

1497
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 2: a racer?

1498
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 1: Like do you feel.

1499
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 2: Like like did he have an overall effect on you

1500
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: as a person or a driver? I mean, I mean

1501
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 2: you definitely started having success again. Yeah, five wins, thirty

1502
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 2: six top tens or thirty six top Yeah, thirty six

1503
01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 2: top tens something or seventy four tops? Uh, you had

1504
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 2: thirty six top fives. I mean, I like Steve with

1505
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 2: tartle loot. I thought, y'are good together.

1506
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 5: Steve was my crew chief in the last several years

1507
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 5: of success that we had at a HINDRT Motorsports in

1508
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 5: my career one day till five hundred and twenty fourteen, but uh,

1509
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 5: probably about six seven races there and a short sp

1510
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 5: spent of time, and then he went to broadcasting and

1511
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,120
Speaker 5: h I cried the moment that I heard that he

1512
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 5: was going to leave at the end of the year.

1513
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 5: I cried, a grown man, I think forty years old roughly,

1514
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 5: and I called him and I was like, dude, this

1515
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 5: rumor can't be true. And He's like, I do that.

1516
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 5: Gotta be home, get more time with my kids. I

1517
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 5: gotta do it. And I was like, but we're just

1518
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 5: doing so good, how could you leave? But anyhow, we

1519
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 5: became the best of friends and we still are today.

1520
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 5: And he was one of the reasons, big reasons why

1521
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 5: I went into broadcasting, because I because I get to

1522
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 5: hang out with him again. I'm back in the booths

1523
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 5: with my buddy. But Steve's approach to crew chiefing, he's

1524
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 5: basically kind of like a coach. He was a cheerleader.

1525
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 5: He's so there's a lot of ways that guys go

1526
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 5: about this. When I raced with Tony Eury Sr. Early

1527
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 5: in my career, we called him Rosie because his cheeks

1528
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 5: were always red, and he was always mad, and he

1529
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 5: would just chew your butt and uh, he hardly ever

1530
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 5: praised you, but man, you can make a mistake, and

1531
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 5: he was there on you. And he intimidated people right,

1532
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 5: and he people wanted to bust their butts to not

1533
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 5: get in trouble. That's why he ran his show and

1534
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 5: it was effective. Steve A. Tart was the other way around,

1535
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 5: or vastly different. He was a cheerleader. You know, we

1536
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 5: run a good lap, he'd say that. He'd say, hey,

1537
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 5: that's a great lap, keep going. Or if we were

1538
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 5: having trouble that day, you know, he was always positive, man,

1539
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 5: we're gonna turn this around. And he was one of

1540
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 5: the first people. So most crew chiefs, most crew chiefs,

1541
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 5: car owners, they believe that they have built you the

1542
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 5: best car, and they believe that if it's not going well,

1543
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 5: you need to change something. And that's pretty much how

1544
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 5: most of the people approach it to the driver. They

1545
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 5: put it on the driver, like, hey, man, what are

1546
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:29,839
Speaker 5: you doing wrong? And Steve A. Tart was the first

1547
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 5: guy that ever told me after a race, we got

1548
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 5: to get these cars better. I had never heard that

1549
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 5: in my life, and he goes, Man, we just got

1550
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 5: to get the car better. It's not good enough. I'm like, damn,

1551
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 5: you saw that too. That is so nice to hear,

1552
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 5: because you can't drive a slow car fast. I mean

1553
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 5: it's a slow car. And so there's these moments where

1554
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 5: you know, he just was so so good, and Dude,

1555
01:14:57,240 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 5: I would get out of the car and I'd go

1556
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 5: I I'd be like, man, that guy believes in me.

1557
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 5: He believes I can do it. I'm coming back next

1558
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 5: week and I'm gonna give him my best because he

1559
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 5: believes in me. He thinks I can do this. And man,

1560
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 5: it's a it's a it's so good. It's such you know,

1561
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 5: he was just perfect, and uh, you know he he's

1562
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 5: he's a great friend. We still communicate a lot. But man,

1563
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 5: I'm glad you asked that question because I love praising

1564
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 5: old Steve.

1565
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: I enjoyed, like I enjoyed watching y'all.

1566
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 2: And I think that announcement about him leaving came out

1567
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 2: before the Daytona five hundred, So then y'all won the

1568
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 2: Daytona five hundred, and that probably just made it all

1569
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:37,799
Speaker 2: the more special.

1570
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was funny because he went into that final

1571
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,960
Speaker 5: season knowing that it was his last and he called

1572
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 5: that whole season the strategy like a wild man. You know,

1573
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,639
Speaker 5: usually if you're nervous about making a mistake and losing

1574
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 5: your job, you're very conservative. Well, he knew he wasn't

1575
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 5: gonna be working there next year, so he called the

1576
01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 5: strategy for each race really aggressively, really loose, like, hey, man,

1577
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 5: let's do it. Let's let's hey, let's put it out there.

1578
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 5: We'll stay out here, we're not pitting, stay out there.

1579
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 5: This might win, might not. We're doing it. And we won.

1580
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 5: We won both of poke. Yeah, both Mark on this

1581
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 5: wild strategy. He would have never did that strategy the

1582
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 5: year before that, and he knew. He's like, hey, now care,

1583
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 5: I'm not here next year, so let's go. And it

1584
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 5: was awesome. Is that, dude?

1585
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 2: Is that the year that you also ran out of

1586
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 2: fuel in the last lap at Charlotte Charlotte?

1587
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:32,479
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1588
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 5: I think been two thousand before. Yeah, no, I remember Heartbreaker.

1589
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,120
Speaker 2: I remember that you wanted to win the World six

1590
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 2: hundred so bad, and last lap you're leading backstretch. I

1591
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 2: think you run out of fuel and you're like, it

1592
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: comes over the radio art, I'm out of fuel.

1593
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 5: It hurt. Yeah, we did that. Remember at the Vegas

1594
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 5: that happened to brack Yeah, almost one Vegas man.

1595
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you can always look back like it's

1596
01:16:57,760 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: so close.

1597
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's no close though.

1598
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can say it's good to be close and

1599
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: you look back on them. But it's been really cool

1600
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:06,920
Speaker 2: watching you out on I Racing too. I started I

1601
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 2: racing back in November, and then all this has started

1602
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,559
Speaker 2: coming up now, so it's cool to see you back

1603
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 2: out racing again.

1604
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 5: I was on the service since so started in two

1605
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 5: thousand and eight, but then I took like a seven

1606
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 5: year break and I came back in November two. It's

1607
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 5: me and you came back right about.

1608
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:21,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, okay, Yeah.

1609
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 5: It's fun.

1610
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 4: That't rocking. He's rocking up. Busting with a boy's car.

1611
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep. I can graphic design, so I love the

1612
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:29,520
Speaker 1: busting with the boys car.

1613
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make sure I put your name down and

1614
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 5: so I can send you a friend requiest.

1615
01:17:34,160 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let's go.

1616
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,800
Speaker 4: Let's get this the busting of the boy's car. Dude.

1617
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got to see this car. Anyways, I'll send

1618
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 5: you one.

1619
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 2: I got a picture of it right here because I

1620
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: sent it to Will. Let's see, Will, what's crazy?

1621
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 4: Zach?

1622
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 3: That's crazy? You and Dale don't text me. That's wild.

1623
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 3: Blows my mind, man, Taylor.

1624
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 6: When you got off the phone, when you got off

1625
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,120
Speaker 6: the phone the other night, I forget what brought it up.

1626
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 6: But Zach was sitting there and he was like, y'all

1627
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 6: want to show you? Uh there they run like TV

1628
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 6: like the iRacing thing looks like a legit NASCAR race

1629
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 6: commentators are talking the whole time. He's got a full

1630
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 6: on busting with the boys car like and it looks real.

1631
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 4: It's crazy.

1632
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 5: Which one are you?

1633
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm in the three car?

1634
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 2: You know.

1635
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 5: Oh boy, that looks good.

1636
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:22,800
Speaker 1: Let's see.

1637
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, all right, I like it.

1638
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 4: I like that. Look at that.

1639
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 5: I like that number font man.

1640
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a throwback.

1641
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 5: Yes you know.

1642
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no our race in the league and they've

1643
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 2: got like commentators and everything. So yeah, no, I that

1644
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 2: it's it's really cool.

1645
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 5: It is fun. So I'm gonna be doing that here

1646
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,080
Speaker 5: in to be it. I got We're gonna run. There's

1647
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 5: an indie race on ye yeah, this Saturday on nb CSN,

1648
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 5: and I gotta go practice at three o'clock for that,

1649
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 5: But I'm looking forward to it. IM a little nervous.

1650
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 5: I haven't spent a lot of time in the Indy Car,

1651
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 5: I know.

1652
01:18:58,360 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: Do you ever want to do the Indy Car double?

1653
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:05,160
Speaker 5: No, that's much work. Yeah, I'd be flying. You gotta fly,

1654
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 5: you got you know, you've you gotta be in for

1655
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 5: Indy for the eighty five hundred. You got to be

1656
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 5: there all month, right, they got this whole thing right,

1657
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 5: And not only do you got to practice and drive

1658
01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 5: the car, qualify race, but they have all the obligations, requirements, media,

1659
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,520
Speaker 5: fan engagement, all that stuff happened in all month long parade.

1660
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:25,640
Speaker 5: You got to be in all that stuff. Plus you

1661
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 5: have it happening on the flip side at the Coke

1662
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 5: six hundred, this whole thing during the whole weekend. I mean,

1663
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 5: the back and forth. It's too much. I couldn't do it. Yeah,

1664
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:35,599
Speaker 5: yeah I will.

1665
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 2: I remember watching Kurt Busch do it and then like

1666
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,080
Speaker 2: everything that he went through, and I think I think

1667
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 2: Saysny like sponsored him and like flew him back and

1668
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 2: he got like IV's as soon as he got done

1669
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 2: with the Indy five hundred to get back to Charlotte.

1670
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 5: As as grumpy as he is, I can't believe.

1671
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a he's an interesting dude. But I I

1672
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: really appreciate you like talking to me and like taking

1673
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 2: my questions.

1674
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 5: I guess the problem, buddy. I'll see you online, man.

1675
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, that'd be awesome.

1676
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm glad this have it because that

1677
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:07,880
Speaker 6: got to ask a lot of the good racing turn

1678
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 6: it somewhat into the racing theme. But there we appreciate you.

1679
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 2: Man.

1680
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 4: You got to thank you very much for this conversation.

1681
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 3: Thank you very much.

1682
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1683
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 6: Whenever everything gets back to normal, will have to get

1684
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 6: you on that bus, dude.

1685
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 5: I know I'm gonna come to Nashville. We're gonna drink

1686
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,680
Speaker 5: some beers from running down the street, fool. We'll get

1687
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:25,719
Speaker 5: in the bus, we'll do a podcast.

1688
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 6: I love it all right, all right, man, Hey, thank

1689
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 6: you very much. Great.

1690
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:34,560
Speaker 3: Me and Exact will be there with coffees. I'll be

1691
01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:39,840
Speaker 3: waiting for you to thank you very much.

1692
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 5: May you take it easy, man,