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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Oh what is going on? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: I hope you're enjoying your Saturday morning. Brian Knowing, Jared Smith,

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Speaker 2: what do you hear this Saturday?

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Speaker 1: Rich is off?

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Speaker 2: You know, so we can talk trash about Rich today,

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Speaker 2: you know, we can be on the same page that

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Speaker 2: the Bears definitely should kick Justin Field to the curb.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what we're gonna do three hours of today, right.

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Speaker 3: I think the whole three hours it should be on

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Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears. I don't know if we have affiliates

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Speaker 3: in Chicago, but get ready, get excited this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Right.

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Speaker 2: And there might be a few, you know, crazed lunatic

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Speaker 2: fans that are like, no, keep them, But I think

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Speaker 2: we had a feeled to most of the masses. You

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Speaker 2: know what the hot rumor is for a little while.

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Speaker 2: One of my good friends is a Bears fan, and

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Speaker 2: he's like, all they're talking about in Chicago right now

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Speaker 2: for a little while, this is a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: He's like, it's not about Caleb Williams, It's about trading

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Speaker 2: for Justin Herbert. That was the big talk for a while.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim Harbaugh, maybe putting his money where his mouth is.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he'll draft JJ McCarthy and see yeah right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: there you go down that road forever.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what you know.

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Speaker 3: You just trade Herbert to the Bears, get the number

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Speaker 3: one pick, and you pick whoever you.

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Speaker 1: Want, right, Yeah, you can go. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: is Herbert worth a.

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Speaker 4: Number one though?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, like the number one pick, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot for her It's a.

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Speaker 2: Lot, right, But that's the whole thing is if you

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Speaker 2: have to think about that with Justin Herbert, Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: the numbers he's put up. I mean, now that's a

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Speaker 2: conversation with Justin Fields. It should not be a conversation.

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Speaker 2: But we'll get into that a little bit later in

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 1: How about we haven't talked since Super Bowl fifty eight.

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Speaker 2: Now, we're not going to do a deep dive, sure,

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Speaker 2: but there's still some meat on that bone. And I

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Speaker 2: thought we could just compare a few notes here. Mahomes dude,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna say anything that you haven't

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Speaker 2: heard all week about Mahomes, but this that a couple

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Speaker 2: of stats blow my mind.

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Speaker 1: Jared.

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Speaker 2: We always talk about the value of a rookie quarterback,

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Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback contract. That's why we'll bring it up

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Speaker 2: with the Caleb Williams justin field thing. It's a huge

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Speaker 2: advantage to have a quarterback on a rookie deal. You

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Speaker 2: can splurge elsewhere when it comes to the roster. If

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Speaker 2: you look at Mahomes, look at last year. So we're

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Speaker 2: talking to twenty two season. Who he went through in

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Speaker 2: the playoffs, Trevor Lawrence rookie contract, Joe Burrow at the

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Speaker 2: time rookie contract, Jalen Hurts at the time rookie contract,

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Speaker 2: then this past season to a tunk of I loo

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Speaker 2: is still on his rookie deal. He hasn't gotten paid yet,

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Speaker 2: and Brock Purty, all those guys on their rookie contracts.

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Speaker 2: And he won every single game, and he's the first

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Speaker 2: quarterback with two hundred passing yards and fifty rushing yards

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Speaker 2: after halftime in the Super Bowl is what he did

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Speaker 2: against San Francisco. So it's his third ring already sensational.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just timing with him. I like the

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Speaker 3: talent again, we can talk about the talent un till

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Speaker 3: we're blue in the face. It's it's off the charts,

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Speaker 3: but it's so rare to have a guy that can

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Speaker 3: time it out the way he does and.

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Speaker 1: To make like you knew.

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Speaker 3: For example, in overtime fourth and one, was there any

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Speaker 3: doubt that the ball was going to be in his hands.

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Speaker 3: They weren't handing it to Pacheco on that play. And

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Speaker 3: I love now it actually is timely because it's been

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Speaker 3: a few days and now we're starting to get the

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Speaker 3: miked up footage from the field, which offers a completely

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Speaker 3: different perspective compared to what we're watching. For example, we'll

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Speaker 3: get to the overtime stuff, but the game was over

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Speaker 3: the second the Niners one the thoughts and took the ball,

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Speaker 3: like based off of what we were hearing from the sidelines,

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Speaker 3: like the Niners layer, I don't know what's going on,

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Speaker 3: and Chiefs are like, they want the ball, they can

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Speaker 3: have it. So it just like the timing of how

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Speaker 3: he operates is so unique because the schedule isn't as

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Speaker 3: important with him, like we always talk about we talk

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Speaker 3: about this Brock pretty a lot. Stay on schedule, right,

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Speaker 3: he needs the offense, Hesanski doesn't really matter for him.

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Speaker 3: Right the second and fourteen after I think it was

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Speaker 3: Valdus Yes, and NBA Yeah, don't I lose ten yards?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, went backwards. Everyone's like, what are you doing?

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Speaker 3: And it was like checking down, third down, all good,

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Speaker 3: like in the red zone. Like it just he just

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Speaker 3: has this ability to raise the game at the right moments,

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Speaker 3: and that I think is the rarest quality for any quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And look, man, this is where I need you to

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Speaker 2: tell me if you think I'm being fair. I think

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Speaker 2: I'm being fair.

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Speaker 1: But I like this game. It's my new favorite game.

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Speaker 1: Is no being fair?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but prock purty listen. I thought he played really well. Sure,

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Speaker 2: I thought he made some good throws, some good decisions,

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Speaker 2: but he wasn't special. And there were a couple of

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Speaker 2: throws he left on the field. Deebo Samuel was wide

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Speaker 2: little bit of heat from Chris Jones. It affected him.

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Speaker 2: He sailed it right out of bounds, right, and then

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Speaker 2: in overtime he had juwan Ja wide open. He also

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Speaker 2: had Brandon Aiyuk wide open. They messed it up. They

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Speaker 2: didn't block Chris Jones. But that's where a special quarterback

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Speaker 2: makes a special play. Do you think that Mahomes in

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Speaker 2: the same situation would have just sailed it nowhere near

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Speaker 1: He escapes.

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Speaker 3: Figure that a way and that you nailed it with

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Speaker 3: bron you're being fair. I think Brock played Like if

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Speaker 3: this was a regular season game and the Niners lost

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Speaker 3: in overtime, everyone be like, oh, Brock played well, you know,

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Speaker 3: no no turnovers. He had two drives in the fourth

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Speaker 3: though they weren't the right the the exclamation point type

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Speaker 3: drives that you need to finish off a game. And

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Speaker 3: I think that's where the difference is. Like it it's

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Speaker 3: not talent, it's just the timing. Like Brock has this

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Speaker 3: ability to make plays, but he doesn't have that special

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Speaker 3: quality that Mahomes has and not everyone does. Like you

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Speaker 3: can't knock a guy for not being as good as

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes. It's just you just can't do it like it's.

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Speaker 1: He's the best.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, just that little moment, I think is what

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Speaker 3: what the Niners were missing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's where the conversation gets tricky

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Speaker 1: Oh, we're just hating on the guy.

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Speaker 2: This is unnecessary, as if we're saying the sky is

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Speaker 2: total trash.

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Speaker 1: You can't do anything right. No one's saying that.

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Speaker 2: With half a brain and two eyes, you know, you

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Speaker 3: Still see one of my eyes is only I I

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Speaker 3: see better out of one eye, So I'm in the Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the left eyes, the good eye.

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Speaker 1: The right eye.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like the left eye can be a little or

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Speaker 3: the right eye can be a little blurry sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Who is the girl that burned down Andre Risen's half

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Speaker 1: Left eye no over there called back nineties hip hop?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like that left eye Smith, I like that, Lisa

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Speaker 2: Lopez shout out yeah.

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Speaker 1: But that's what I think.

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Speaker 2: If you do the equivalent of Brock Purdy's performance as

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Speaker 2: Game seven with all the marbles on the line here

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Speaker 2: and that player he hit a lot of mid range

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Speaker 2: then when it came time to hit the shot and

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Speaker 2: He was back there deep range shooting a three pointer.

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Speaker 2: He didn't make it. Like it was a good performance,

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Speaker 2: But you're not beating Michael Jordan that way, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean? Like it just has to be more

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Speaker 2: be on his rookie deal. It's not gonna count like

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Speaker 2: a million bucks against the the Niners. Cap twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four is the year for the Niners because they already

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Speaker 2: have some tough decisions to make, but when they pay

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Speaker 2: Brock Perdy, they have tougher decisions to make and they're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to skimp at certain spots like that. It's

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Speaker 2: all in for the Niners in twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Man. Yeah, and I think should be fair to Brock.

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Speaker 3: You give a lot of credit to Spags and that

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Speaker 3: d they called the perfect blitzes on third downs, the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that one after the two minute warning the

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Speaker 1: And they couldn't do it.

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Speaker 3: Spag styled up a perfect blitz and it just the

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Speaker 3: timing was off. Brock actually had Aye, you go open

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Speaker 3: those are the nuances that the box score doesn't show.

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Speaker 3: Brian Brock Purty on third and four needs to figure

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Speaker 3: out a way to slide that protection and pick up

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Speaker 3: that Blitzer on the backside didn't see it. The offensive

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Speaker 3: a it was a bad, you know looking play that

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Speaker 3: ended up going Kansas City's way. Those are the little

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Speaker 3: thing that doesn't show up in the box score. It's

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Speaker 3: just an incomplete pass. But the defense being able to

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Speaker 3: cause that incomplete pass based off of good scheming up front,

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Speaker 3: and the Niners unable to pick up that blitzer. It

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Speaker 3: just those are just the little things that I think

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Speaker 3: Mahomes does better than most guys.

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Speaker 2: And man, what a game. It really was a fun game.

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Speaker 2: It was that the second half was the elect fantastic.

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Speaker 2: It's a good point because sometimes a box score will

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Speaker 2: lie to you. It won't tell you the full, you know, details.

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Speaker 2: That's why you gotta watch. You can't just be box

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Speaker 2: score dependent. Where there were a couple of plays where

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Speaker 2: two interceptions, that's where they lost the game, right, It's

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Speaker 2: a glaring mistake.

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Speaker 3: Like you know, and other than the punt fumble. But

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Speaker 2: I wanted to hit on this real fast because you

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Speaker 2: And then the Niners, of course, they choose to take

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Speaker 1: In his mind. The right decision was taking the ball.

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Speaker 3: The third possession if you're taking the ball first, because

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Speaker 1: Because I'll be honest, I think if the Niners score

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Speaker 3: I just think you don't put the ball in someone

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Speaker 3: we've seen that strategy in overtime and in other spots

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Speaker 3: So playing for the third possession is like a possession

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Speaker 2: You know what's funny is because the overtime rules in

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Speaker 1: To first?

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Speaker 2: You go on defense first, right, you know what you

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Speaker 2: you might only need a field goal. You know, that's

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Speaker 2: what could have happened in the Super Bowl. And so

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Speaker 2: to give the Chiefs fourth down every single time, it's

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Speaker 3: first down, no big deal, It's okay, we have fourth down, world, Right.

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Speaker 2: Somehow, some way you held the Chiefs to the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: You're giving him an extra down too. You're making him

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Speaker 2: I wanted to throw it your way, Jared. It was

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Speaker 2: So this was Arthur Blank's statement. He said, I do

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Speaker 1: You guys can handle that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Arthur Blank. Let's just say Belichick was like, no,

438
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Speaker 2: I need full control, and Arthur Blank is like, let

439
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Speaker 2: me be one hundred thousand percent clear. He never asked

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Speaker 2: for a full control over personnel. I believe Arthur Blank. Sure,

441
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Speaker 2: And I believe this helps Belichick because I just don't

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Speaker 2: believe he's coached his final game in the NFL. And

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Speaker 2: now that we know that he went into the Falcons

444
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Speaker 2: interviews both of them and didn't want personnel control, He's like,

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Speaker 2: Terry Fontt knows your guy.

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Speaker 1: Great. Sounds good to me.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't sound like Belichick though, right, yeah, right, the personality

448
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Speaker 3: profile from.

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Speaker 2: What we have on them, I could see other teams

450
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Speaker 2: with the shifty eyes like really doesn't want any control Belichick.

451
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Speaker 2: They could still be skeptical of this, but the fact

452
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Speaker 2: that Blank is saying no, no, no, very inclusive, very collaborative.

453
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Speaker 2: That's been one of the biggest marks on his resume

454
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Speaker 2: is he's not known as that guy. And there are

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Speaker 2: some front offices that are like, no, we don't really

456
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Speaker 2: want to change everything here. It's funny because the knock

457
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Speaker 2: on Belichick is he wants full control, but the front offices.

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Speaker 1: They went fully. Everyone always wants control power. I think

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Speaker 1: he's back next year, is what it boils down to,

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Speaker 1: and much I agree. I think there'll be a There'll

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Speaker 1: be a spot.

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Speaker 3: And you know what a kind of personal story kind

463
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Speaker 3: of reminds me of you know, when you get married

464
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Speaker 3: this this happened to me, It didn't happen to everyone else.

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's why they're still married.

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Speaker 3: You know, everything's great and hunky dory until you move

467
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Speaker 3: in together really and you get married and and then

468
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Speaker 3: things start to change. So maybe it was one of

469
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Speaker 3: those spots where on the surface Bill was like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I don't want control you guys, and then you give

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Speaker 3: him the job and he's like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I would tweat this just a little

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Speaker 1: bit here, like.

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Speaker 3: It I just I don't buy the fact that Bill Belichick,

475
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Speaker 3: at the twilight of his coaching career, is just going

476
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Speaker 3: to morph into this team player, right like. He hasn't

477
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Speaker 3: done that for twenty years in New England, and now

478
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Speaker 3: we're hearing a lot of negative stuff about Tom and

479
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Speaker 3: he had an offer to stay and he's like, I

480
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Speaker 3: don't want to deal with that anymore. So it just

481
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Speaker 3: I it kind of conflicts a lot of the things

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Speaker 3: that we've also heard about Bill, which is why, as

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Speaker 3: much as I want to believe Arthur Blank something to tell,

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Speaker 3: that's not the full story.

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Speaker 2: M h.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'll say this.

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Speaker 2: The last point I want to make is we always

488
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Speaker 2: talk about bridge quarterbacks. We've never talked about bridge coaches, right,

489
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Speaker 2: Like he's the ultimate bridge coach. Yeah, there's got to

490
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Speaker 2: be an organization next year that is in a spot

491
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Speaker 2: where it's like, look, either one of two things. Either

492
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Speaker 2: we're great, like we're on the cusp of being great,

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Speaker 2: maybe say the Cowboys, maybe the Eagles, right.

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Speaker 6: Bills, right, like right.

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Speaker 2: We heard those rumors of hey, you get Belichick in here.

496
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Speaker 2: He's only going to coach for a couple more years.

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Speaker 2: He might be the guy to take the Bills and

498
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Speaker 2: take him across the finish line. Or the Cowboys are

499
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Speaker 2: so there could be a fit like that, or like

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Speaker 2: you're saying, there's a team like the Saints, who they're good,

501
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Speaker 2: they're probably not true Super Bowl contenders. But with Belichick,

502
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Speaker 2: hey man, he comes in here, he breaks the record,

503
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Speaker 2: We're gonna win a bunch of games a good amount,

504
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Speaker 2: or we're gonna be known as the organization he won

505
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Speaker 2: with in terms of surpassing Shula.

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Speaker 4: Why not.

507
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Speaker 2: He's a great bridge coach. I know he's not gonna

508
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Speaker 2: be your coach of the future for the next ten years,

509
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Speaker 2: but that doesn't stop teams from getting a bridge quarterback.

510
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Speaker 1: Why can't it be the same thing with the coach.

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Speaker 3: I think if I was a coach in today's NFL

512
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Speaker 3: and I didn't have Mahomes as my quarterback or Josh Allen,

513
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Speaker 3: I'd want to go to the NFC like that would

514
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Speaker 3: be like my first choice, and then the second choice

515
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Speaker 3: would be the NFC South cause it's just you can

516
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Speaker 3: win that division clearly with.

517
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Speaker 1: You know, shoe string and bubblegum.

518
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Speaker 3: You know, you tie together Baker Mayfield in a decent defense,

519
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Speaker 3: you can win that division. So like that, like the

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Speaker 3: destination matters and going to Atlanta, I thought was a

521
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Speaker 3: really good spot. Like I really thought that they could

522
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Speaker 3: have won based off of the landscape of that division.

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Speaker 1: And and some of the tools that were olready in

524
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Speaker 1: the tool shed for the Falcons.

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Speaker 3: The quarterback situation obviously needed to be addressed, but let's

526
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Speaker 3: be honest, there's a lot of teams that have that

527
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Speaker 3: problem going into the offseason, so it's not like that

528
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Speaker 3: was a unique problem for Atlanta to have, But a

529
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Speaker 3: lot of the other players on that roster were solid.

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Speaker 3: I think I feel the same about New Orleans, Like

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Speaker 3: you know, the Saints kind of have that team where

532
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Speaker 3: you figure out a way to get things to all

533
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Speaker 3: work together, and they've got they've got a culture, they've

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Speaker 3: got a decent fan base down there. It's a tough

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Speaker 3: home field. Like I the NFC, the NFC South would

536
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Speaker 3: be where I would focus while I was built.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Like think of Kirk Cousins if he's not

538
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 2: back in Minnesota, someone's gonna pick him up, even though

539
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 2: he's not the quarterback of their future against on the

540
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Speaker 2: plus side of thirty five, you know he's still gonna

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Speaker 2: have a gig. I don't know why it can't be

542
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Speaker 2: similar with the coach with Belichick's credentials. There's got to

543
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Speaker 2: be a fit. I just I don't think it's over.

544
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Speaker 2: I know it's not over for this guy either. Mister

545
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Speaker 2: Isaac lohen Kron, he is just getting freaking warmed up

546
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 2: over here. Just listen right now, he's got the latest.

547
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Speaker 2: I love what is going on, buddy.

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Speaker 7: Thanks to two cups of coffee and counting fellas, good

549
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Speaker 7: morning to you. We start with College Basketball News. Basketball

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Speaker 7: Hall of Famer and former longtime Maryland head coach Lefty

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Speaker 7: Drizzel passed away today at the age of ninety two.

552
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 7: Drizzell won seven hundred and eighty six games during a

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Speaker 7: forty year head coaching career that included twenty one twenty

554
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Speaker 7: win seasons. Drizzelle was inducted into the Basketball Hall of

555
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Speaker 7: Fame in twenty eighteen. Here was some of his enshrinement

556
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Speaker 7: speech on that occasion.

557
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Speaker 6: Probably one of the happiest days in my wife, in

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Speaker 6: my life.

559
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Speaker 7: And my wife what did And look, is anybody in

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Speaker 7: here eighty six years old?

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Speaker 1: Range your hand? Will you so?

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Speaker 3: So?

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Speaker 1: Look if I if I screw up, wait till you

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Speaker 1: get eighty six.

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Speaker 6: Won of her Kai and one other note. It was

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Speaker 6: Lefty D.

567
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Speaker 7: Drizzelle who invented midnight Madness back in nineteen seventy one.

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Speaker 6: He was the guy who started that tradition.

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Speaker 7: The fourteen finalists for the Basketball Hall of Fame Class

570
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 7: of twenty twenty four were revealed on Friday at NBA

571
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,719
Speaker 7: All Star Weekend, headlined by Vince Carter and Chauncey Billups.

572
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Speaker 7: The inductees will be announced at the Final Four in April.

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Speaker 7: And golf, Tiger Woods withdrew from the second round of

574
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Speaker 7: the Genesis Invitational at Riviera on Friday due to illness.

575
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 7: Woods was two over par overall for the tournament through

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Speaker 7: twenty four holes of play. Patrick Cantley as a five

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Speaker 7: shot lead at thirteen under par overall. Jordan Speech, by

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Speaker 7: the way, disqualified from the tournament for signing an incorrect scorecard.

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Speaker 6: Fellas back to you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I low Fox Sports Radio with you here. I'm probably

582
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Speaker 2: though he's Jared Smith. You know we need to induct

583
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Speaker 2: in the Basketball Hall of Fame. When I heard Chauncey Billups,

584
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Speaker 2: the first thing in my head was Chauncey.

585
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Speaker 1: Billups.

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00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: Right, we need that voice guy in there. We definitely

587
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: need the Chicago Bulls original guy.

588
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 7: And now the starting lineup for your world champion Chicago Balls.

589
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: Like that guy was amazing. Do we have any voice

590
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: guys as contributors?

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00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

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00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: I was gonna say that music is synonymous with my childhood,

593
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: like watching basketball games in the nineties.

594
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Like like that intro, it is drilled.

595
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: Like I think anytime you play that, that's the first

596
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: place my brain goes is Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan, Like,

597
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 3: It's just that's like the first place my brain goes.

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00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 2: I still can remember, you know, six ' six from

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Speaker 2: North Carolina.

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Speaker 4: Ya.

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Speaker 3: No, it's just drilling your head, really, man, those and

602
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Speaker 3: I had some brutal as a Knicks fan in that

603
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: time growing up watching those games.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was just little brother, big brother. But

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Speaker 1: you gotta respect, Like say, I feel the same about

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Speaker 1: Belichick and the Patriots. I can't stand him I as

607
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: a Jets fan, but you gotta respect greatness.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's funny, that's where you and I can bond a

610
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: little bit because I've always loved the Dolphins. And the

611
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: funny thing is the Dolphins have been so far away

612
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: from contending these last two decades. I really don't even

613
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: hate the Patriots. You can't, that's how bad the Dolphins

614
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Speaker 2: have been. Like I hated the Bills growing up because

615
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: the Bills got in the Dolphins way.

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Speaker 3: Heat was always mine with the Knicks in the nineties,

617
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 3: like those playoff series in the late nineties, PJ.

618
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Speaker 2: Brown, Hick tossing, Charlie Ward and.

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Speaker 1: Oakley and Ewing just going absolutely berserk.

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Speaker 2: Are we getting a little bit like that in the

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Speaker 2: NFL now with Mahomes We mentioned Jordan, Yeah, six and

622
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Speaker 2: eight years and think how many legacies he either prevented

623
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Speaker 2: or stunted. Where you got Reggie Miller, Patrick Ewing, Sean Camp,

624
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Speaker 2: Gary Payton, like all these guys, carl Alone, John Stockton

625
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Speaker 2: winning rings because of Jordan.

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Speaker 1: A big part of that was Jordan. It's so it's

627
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: so true.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you think about the great players, and to

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Speaker 3: be fair, Burrows the only guy that's beat and Brady,

630
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Speaker 3: Like Burrow and Brady are the only two guys in

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Speaker 3: the big moments that have figured out a way, and

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Speaker 3: I guess you could really say the defense for Brady

633
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: in that Super Bowl was really the difference.

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Speaker 1: But Joe Burrow, I mean maybe he is the last

635
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Speaker 1: hope to give another team a chance during this little

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Speaker 1: run here that we're current.

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Speaker 3: Like the Mahomes era, right ivery, if every generation has

638
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Speaker 3: an error like the Taylor Swift eras this is the

639
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: Mahomes error were in right now.

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Speaker 2: And think how differently things would be. Go back to

641
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Speaker 2: the Mahomes his first Super Bowl, Yeah, that was against

642
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Speaker 2: the Niners. In Jimmy Garoppo, What if Jimmy G wins

643
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Speaker 2: a ring?

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00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: Totally different conversation, right, story about Jimmy G this week

645
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 3: is just bizarre.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, we'll get to that. He gets popped for

647
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: two game suspension. He's expected to ask for a refund

648
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:06,239
Speaker 2: as well as Yeah, it's probably gonna be cut by

649
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Speaker 2: the team.

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Speaker 1: It's who.

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Speaker 2: But then you think about the last two of course,

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Speaker 2: brock Purty, we're not We're talking about the way they're

653
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: talked about the light, the way the perception perception change legacy, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: or Jalen hurts the previous year, what is the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three season like for Jalen Hurts and the way

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Speaker 2: he's talked about if the Eagles beat the Chiefs last year,

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Speaker 2: so different.

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Speaker 3: I think the eagles big problem though, is those coordinators

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Speaker 3: leave in town. Like I think they probably still struggled

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Speaker 3: this year even if they win that Super Bowl, if

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Speaker 3: both coordinators bolt.

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Speaker 1: But there's a lot of Jalen Hurts talk that probably

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen this year, right.

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Speaker 3: Especially early in the season. Yeah, I think, And frankly,

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Speaker 3: I think the Niners are kind of in that same boat.

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Speaker 3: Like it just it's really hard to raise your.

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Speaker 1: Level after losing the Super Bowl. I think it's easier

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs when you could smell it, but in

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Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, like the Chiefs are going

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Speaker 1: to be in the same boat, and the Chiefs struggled,

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Speaker 1: you know a little more towards the middle of the

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Speaker 1: season this year. But that hangover is a real thing.

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Speaker 3: That football season is longer, and it's only getting longer

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Speaker 3: early playing the Eagles are playing in.

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Speaker 1: Brazil to start the year.

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Speaker 3: Like, It's just it's a long year, and that hangover

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Speaker 3: is a thing when you already had been to the end,

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Speaker 3: you fell short, and now you have to start the

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Speaker 3: game all over again and go from level one up.

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Speaker 2: It's a it's a tough mindset to have, it is, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: it is no doubt. We've got a couple of new

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Speaker 2: affiliates here, Jared, Oh, yeah, going to welcome them to

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Speaker 2: the family. We've got the new Fox Sports Radio Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: Radio Orlando let's Go ninety seven to nine FM and

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Speaker 2: eight ten am. So we look forward to entertaining, informing

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Speaker 2: nine AM and the new Fox Sports Radio Orlando ninety

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Speaker 1: To the FSR family.

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Speaker 2: I think as good hosts, we should tell them who

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Speaker 2: to look out for, right, Like who's the host to

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Speaker 2: look out for?

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Speaker 1: You mean, like like at the top or at the

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Speaker 2: Anyway, it's look out for that. Jonas Knox, he's a

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Speaker 2: good guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm a big fan of what Cavino and Rich do.

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Speaker 3: I make them for the first time at the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: They're such good dudes.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they're a good hang man. Absolutely, and Jonas too,

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Speaker 2: I'm just kidnapped.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: I met him too in the I'm had a chance

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Speaker 3: to meet a bunch of the guys this week, So

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Speaker 3: that's we do the show remote guys. Like a lot

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Speaker 3: of times, we don't get to meet and hang out

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Speaker 1: So super Bowl last week got a chance to meet

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Speaker 1: a lot of the brass.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a good time. It was a good time. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Good people work at this station. Even on the air.

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Speaker 3: You hear us, and sometimes we sound a little crazy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, very nice. We need Jacksonville to

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Speaker 2: sign Josh Allen the defensive bend.

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Speaker 1: We need that to happen. I was gonna say the

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Speaker 1: other Josh Allen. That would be a big story.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, well yeah, there would be. We need uh,

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Speaker 2: we need Paulo Bancaro to just keep doing his thing

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Speaker 2: over there. Huh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Orlando's had an interesting few weeks. Wagner's tough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those maps you know overlook that Wagner over there

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Speaker 2: doing work.

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Speaker 1: I love the magic absolutely all right.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next from the tyreck dot Com Studios, a

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Speaker 2: little parlay platter, huh Jared Smith with a few legs,

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Speaker 2: little college basketball action.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, are you gonna know any of the teams either.

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Speaker 1: That's the beauty of it.

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Speaker 2: There's a random we're going to the horizon. We might

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Speaker 2: get Colgate in that bad boy. Who knows we'll get

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Speaker 2: that got a huge game today against Bucknell.

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Speaker 1: Guys massive.

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Speaker 2: He's Jared Smith. I'm Brian though. Keep it locked right

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in.

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Speaker 2: We're live from the tyrreck dot com studios Here on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian though. He's Jared Smith. No

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Speaker 2: Rich Hoornberger today he is off. His birthday was on

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Speaker 2: Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 1: That's an awesome birthday for Rick. I mean I think

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Speaker 1: that suits Rich's personality, right, Mister love the love, mister love. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So it's just us.

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Speaker 2: Yeahoo's here today.

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Speaker 1: Let's dive into this. Check this out. Parlay letter.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jared sprinkle a little parlay madness on us, will

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Speaker 2: you yeah have some fun?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: And you know now we're football season's over.

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Speaker 3: Riview Maror the parlay strategy changes for me at least,

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Speaker 3: like I like to give out those crazy money line

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Speaker 3: underdogs during college football season. Then we got to the

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Speaker 3: NFL playoffs, they got a little more same game parlay vibes.

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Speaker 3: Now we're in college basketball mode right and I like

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Speaker 3: to take big favorites that are supposed to win. They're

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Speaker 3: at home, a lot of them, and I like to

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Speaker 3: mash them together and get a plus one ten ish

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Speaker 3: plus one twenty ish parlay.

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Speaker 1: That's usually my strategy with the money line parlays in

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Speaker 1: college you I don't go for the big scores.

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Speaker 3: But let's start with that Balacchian State today. They're at

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Speaker 3: home against Louisiana. App States, I think, one of the

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Speaker 3: best teams in the Sun Belt, beat Auburn earlier this year.

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Speaker 3: They beat James Madison twice, so they've got the inside

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Speaker 3: track for the Sun Belt title. They need to win

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Speaker 3: four out of their last five down the stretch in

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Speaker 3: order to clinch that top seed. They've got a decent

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Speaker 3: spot today against the Rage Occasions, who are kind of

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Speaker 3: up and down this year.

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Speaker 1: So I'll take app State on the money line.

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Speaker 3: IPFW the Mastodons of Purdue Fort Wayne. They are at

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Speaker 3: Detroit today, and really this is more of a play

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Speaker 3: against Detroit. Detroit won their first game of the season

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Speaker 3: last time out. I don't know if you guys saw it,

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Speaker 3: but there was like a court storm of one rush.

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Speaker 3: We have to fade Detroit in this game. So we'll

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Speaker 3: put IPFW the Mast on the money line, and then

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Speaker 3: finally I'm fading my LaSalle Explorers today. You guys can't

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Speaker 3: see this, we're not on the stream, but I've got

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Speaker 3: my LaSalle sweatshirt on this morning. I used to work there,

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Speaker 3: so I've got a pretty inside track of what their

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Speaker 3: program is.

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Speaker 1: And they're not good this year. They're two and ten

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Speaker 1: in the eight ten.

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Speaker 3: They've lost five straight and the UMass Minutemen are starting

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Speaker 3: to put together a little bit of a run here.

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Speaker 1: Frank Martin's done a good job. They've already won sixteen

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Speaker 1: games this year.

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Speaker 3: They haven't won twenty since way back in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 3: which was one of the last times they made the tourneys.

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Speaker 1: So I like this UMass team. They're big on the glass.

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Speaker 1: Lsal's very size deficient, So.

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Speaker 3: We'll put UMass money Line IPFW money Line app State

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Speaker 3: on the money line again plus one twenty two over

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Speaker 3: at bet MGM. It ain't gonna get you rich. But

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Speaker 3: I like these money lines, these dick juicy money lines.

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Speaker 3: We put them all together, we get a moderate sized

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Speaker 3: payout here, and I think that's the way to play

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Speaker 3: it in college hoops.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I've got a few things to mention here.

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Speaker 2: The first The first thing I think of is Frank Martin.

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Speaker 2: Remember him, like the former of Kansas State head coach.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, been a couple other places, scowling. He's a

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Speaker 2: Dolphins fan, Jared, Is it really is?

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Speaker 1: He from South Florida? Yeah, listen to this real fast.

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Speaker 1: I'm born and raised in Miami, Florida, and I am

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Speaker 1: Dolphins fan to the end. Is already where we could

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Speaker 1: get John Clayton to intervene and get Peyton Manning down there?

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Speaker 1: What the team or is that during his quarterbacking days?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: What Peyton Manning? Yeah? Oh where? Yeah? Yeah it's still active. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe Peyton will be there at the GM. Now that'll

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Speaker 1: be interesting, right right, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: But Frank Martin die hard Dolphins never addressed that.

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Speaker 1: And I grew up down there, Brian.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of whole diehard Dolphins fans usually it's

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Speaker 3: like me New Yorker's transplant.

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Speaker 1: They like the Jets and they just live in South Florida.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like what you're thinking with app State, you know,

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Speaker 2: and beating Auburn. We'll get to Auburn's game against Kentucky

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Speaker 2: a little bit later in the show.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Tim Murphy is gonna be on with us next hour

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Speaker 2: as well to preview the big college basketball games.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, man, app State, when you've got a win

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Speaker 2: against Auburn on the resume, it's like, oh okay, inside

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Speaker 2: track for the Sun Belt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 2: And man, the one guy storming the court for Detroit Mercy.

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Speaker 1: Was she funniest thing I've seen all your man hands down?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hilaire, Oh yeah, top of the line right there.

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Speaker 2: But hey, if they win again, we might get a

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Speaker 2: couple of guys you know, running. I don't think I'll

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Speaker 2: be honest a team like that. You get your one

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Speaker 2: win and it's like.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That was the Super Bowl and they were

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Speaker 1: favored in that game too. I know it. I almost

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Speaker 1: sent you a scream shower.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, whoa the winless team favorite?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: Coming up next is this guy the fall Guy that

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Speaker 2: is on the way. Oh, good morning to you. Hope

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Speaker 2: everything is fine in your world. Brian No Jared Smith

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Speaker 2: got rid of their defensive coordinator. They got rid of

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Speaker 2: Steve Wilkes one and done one year there as the

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Speaker 2: DC and out and Kyle Shanahan said it just it

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Speaker 2: wasn't the right fit. So the question becomes is he

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Speaker 2: the scapegoat? Does he become the fall guy? And I think, Jared,

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Speaker 2: when you look at this, like just first blush, it

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Speaker 2: definitely seems like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But when you stop and think about this and you

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Speaker 2: hear some of these comments where Nick Bosa right after

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, he was like, the zone read got

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Speaker 2: us a couple of times. We could have been more

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Speaker 2: prepared there.

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Speaker 1: It's like whoa whoa boy? Right?

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Speaker 2: Like, and then you have Kyle Shanahan, who detailed this,

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Speaker 2: and there were other stories written where Steve Wilks he

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Speaker 2: didn't have the same background with the defense that they

877
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: run with the Niners, and he was playing catchup, and

878
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: for most of the season it was okay, but it

879
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 2: really showed up in these bigger moments where the Niners

880
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 2: defense they ranked third in the league during the season,

881
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: they only allowed seventeen point five points per game, but

882
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: that ballooned up to twenty five point seven in the playoffs.

883
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: And you could sit there and say, well, I mean,

884
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: you're playing the best teams. Well, you're playing the Packers, right,

885
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 2: You're playing the Lions. Of course, you're playing the Chiefs.

886
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: I expected to balloon a little bit. But man, that

887
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: Niners defense cheered, especially against the Packers and the Lions,

888
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 2: left a lot to be desired. And I think on

889
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 2: the offensive side of the ball, for whatever reason, it

890
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: clicks in your brain a little bit better, where it's like,

891
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: if this offensive coordinator doesn't have experience with this particular

892
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: style of offen that we've run here for years, and

893
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: you're playing catchup, I think you'd be like, yeah, it

894
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: wasn't the greatest fit. But for some reason, on defense,

895
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: it just sounds more like an excuse. I don't think

896
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: it is, and I don't think by firing Steve Wilkes,

897
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 2: this just takes the heat and the scrutiny off of

898
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan. Anyone who was saying, what are you doing

899
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,919
Speaker 2: taking the ball in overtime is still saying that. Yeah,

900
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 2: I believe the Niners where they say it just wasn't

901
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: a great fit. We love the guy, but not a

902
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: great fit for the defense, run and the way we

903
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 2: do things.

904
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 3: Sometimes it happens like that, agreed, I don't it sounds

905
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 3: a lot less scapegoaty when you lay it out in

906
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: playing terms, like if you just say the Niners lost

907
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl, the direct reaction is Steve Wilks got fired,

908
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: like that was the next thing that happened the day

909
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,919
Speaker 3: or two days after the Niners lost the Super Bowl.

910
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: On the surface, it appears that it's a scapegoat firing.

911
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 3: But then you dig a little deeper, and you know,

912
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 3: things were difficult for San Francisco this year. They started great,

913
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 3: defense was great to start and Hafunga got hurt, which

914
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: is their best I think one of their best overall

915
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 3: players period. You know, he was kind of like the

916
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 3: run stopper sideline to sideline box safety that could defend

917
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: like kind of that glue between the linebacker level and

918
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: the secondary level.

919
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: And you saw a big dip in efficiency across the board.

920
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: Like I won't bore you.

921
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: With the NERD numbers, but the Niners this year, you know,

922
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: a little more middle of the pack than they probably

923
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: should be with their personnel. Then we just heard a

924
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: couple days ago that Eric Armstead has been playing the

925
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 3: last month of the season with a torn meniscus. I

926
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 3: think something I don't know, but you're talking about two

927
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: impact players. Hafungo, who's like so important in the run

928
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,320
Speaker 3: game and an Armstead, who's like your big run stopper

929
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: up front, have both been compromised this year.

930
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: So you can make some.

931
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: Personnel excuses why the defense was a little bit shaky

932
00:44:55,239 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 3: this year. I'm hearing that this was more scheme the results.

933
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: I think there was a bit of a disconnect in

934
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 3: the locker room with what the Niners wanted to do,

935
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: the type of personnel they had, and the type of

936
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: scheme that Steve was running. And you saw it at

937
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 3: points this year, right they moved him from the box

938
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: to the field they tried to change some things in

939
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 3: the secondary after that Vikings lost and where Kirk Cousins

940
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: went absolutely berserk on that secondary. They tried to switch

941
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: some things around and it just never, I guess clicked.

942
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: But let's be honest, Brian, you watched the first half

943
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 3: of that Super Bowl. The Niners defense was the story.

944
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 3: So it's really hard to say, oh, yep, scapegoat, you know,

945
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 3: that's why the Niners lost.

946
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: They're just kind of cleaning house. I think it was

947
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: something deeper than that.

948
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, And look, the last impression is what matters most.

949
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: You're right, because the Niners defense played really well in

950
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: the first half. The Chiefs helped him out with the

951
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: Pacheco fumble, but all things considered, holding the Chiefs to

952
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: three points and a half of football pretty darn good.

953
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: You take that every single time. But it's sort of

954
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 2: like the role reversal from Super Bowl fifty four four

955
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 2: years prior, right where for three and a half quarters

956
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 2: Mahomes was not good, but he was at the end

957
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: and that's all we really remember, you know, like Jimmy

958
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: Gett outplayed Mahomes throughout most of that game, and no

959
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: one remembers that because Mahomes got it done, you know,

960
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 2: midway through the fourth quarter to the end, and Jimmy

961
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 2: g didn't.

962
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: And so that's how it goes. So it's tough, man.

963
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: If you look at Steve Wilkes going forward, though, Jared,

964
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: this is really damaging, really damaging, because I think it's

965
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: far worse to have the dudes and to not get

966
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: it done. Yeah, then to not have the dudes. And

967
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: it's like, well, if you're a coach or a quarterback,

968
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 2: you could be like, well, I mean, look at Justin Fields,

969
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: who's he throwing two over there? Sam Darnold with the Jets,

970
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: Like who's the supporting cast over there? If you're a

971
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: coach like Frank Reich with Carolina, and you could say,

972
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: my goodness, it was slim Dickens over there. But if

973
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 2: you've got the guys and you had Robert Salah great

974
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: success as the defensive coordinator there, Demiko Ryan's right before

975
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: Steve Wilkes great success as the defensive coordinator. And the

976
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: last thing you remember is Steve Wilkes coming up short

977
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: on that stage and then the comments right afterward of

978
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 2: we could have been more prepared for this and that

979
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: that is really tough.

980
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 1: For the guy going forward. There's a couple other things

981
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: to consider here.

982
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 3: John Lynch might have seen, or I guess you could

983
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 3: say Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch might have seen the

984
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,919
Speaker 3: landscape of coaches available and said, you know what, let's

985
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 3: take a chance here. Mike Rabels out there, there's guys

986
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 3: out there that are really talented at defense. Maybe it's

987
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 3: like a grass is always greener on the other sides

988
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,240
Speaker 3: kind of vibe, like they know what they had with Wilkes.

989
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: It was okay, it wasn't elite, it wasn't Demiko Ryans,

990
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 3: Robert Salah, but it wasn't bottom of the barrow like

991
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: we can't. They were in the Super Bowl and they

992
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: held the chief three points in the first half like

993
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 3: it still was serviceable. But they obviously felt that there

994
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 3: was a fit and a scheme difference. So and they

995
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: probably looked at some of the other coaches out there

996
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: and said, you know what, there's a lot of good

997
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: options out there. Maybe because of the timing of everything,

998
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: this is a good Hey, let's just move on. Right,

999
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 3: We've got the the the obvious narrative, Oh they lost

1000
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: Super Bowl, We'll move on. And there's there's some good

1001
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 3: talent out there in the coaching world right now, So

1002
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,479
Speaker 3: it could be a mix of both. Where they weren't

1003
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 3: really quite sold on Steve anymore, but then they look at,

1004
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: oh man, there's some really good coaches out there that

1005
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 3: we can go get right now, So it could be

1006
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: a little bit of both. I'm fascinated to see which

1007
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 3: direction they go. Obviously, if you ask me, of all

1008
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 3: the coordinator jobs that are open right now, I think

1009
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 3: the Niners defensive course, it has to be right top

1010
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 3: of the heap, like it's got to be at the

1011
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 3: top or near the top.

1012
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: So I think they'll get a lot of really good

1013
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: candidates for this job.

1014
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: Varibel was the first one that came to mind, but

1015
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 3: there's others, and I'm assuming that they're kind of looking

1016
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: at the landscape saying, you know what, there's probably better

1017
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 3: options out there, and it's not like Steve is gangbusters here,

1018
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 3: so let's make the move. It'll be clean, it'll be quick,

1019
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 3: and we'll move on and we'll figure out a way

1020
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 3: to get someone else in.

1021
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Niners, they really want to stay true to

1022
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: that Seahawks style defense to cover three. Remember when Earl

1023
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: Thomas was back there, as the loan safety and just

1024
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 2: go in sideline to sideline.

1025
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: That's what they truly want to do.

1026
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 2: But that wasn't Steve Wilkes's experience, that's not his background.

1027
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, it seems, and I get the arguments. There's

1028
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: a promo running with Rob Barker saying, would you have

1029
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: fired the guy if you won the Super Bowl and

1030
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 2: they were might close to winning it? They might have, yeah,

1031
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: but it would have been harder to do so, agreed.

1032
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: I'll put it this way. If they won and fired him,

1033
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: you know, for sure, it's a fit thing.

1034
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: It's a scheme thing.

1035
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: With them losing the Super Bowl, you're kind of like, eh,

1036
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: one eyebrow raised, you know, this is a scapeboat type thing.

1037
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: I don't think it is, but I get how it

1038
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: can look like that. I don't think it is either.

1039
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 3: I think this was something that was going to happen regardless,

1040
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 3: and it would have been a much tougher story.

1041
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: Pr wise, if they would have won. Yeah, right, hey,

1042
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: I hear you on that. How about the Chiefs? Right,

1043
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: if we look at the Chiefs going forward?

1044
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: I love this from the the the celebration, Here was

1045
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: what Chris Jones was saying about the next season.

1046
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 3: Goods going, No, well, dibat.

1047
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: The guys at at the parades. You can't take anything there.

1048
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are so drunk. It's next level.

1049
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 3: Like you at a frat party in college, Like, do

1050
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 3: you want anything that you said during that time televised

1051
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: or publicized?

1052
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. I'm glad you said that, because

1053
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: I had a flashback. Every single time I went out

1054
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 2: and my friends in college, the story everyone said was like,

1055
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: we're playing football tomorrow. That's what everyone said. And I

1056
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 2: was always like the stone cold, sober one, and I'd

1057
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: fall for it every time.

1058
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's do it.

1059
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's play some ball. The next day, I'm knocking

1060
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 2: on their doors. No one is answering, nobody in that.

1061
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: It's very similar to what you're laying out right.

1062
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: Believe anything you hear at these parades, guys. These guys

1063
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: are just lit up past their skulls.

1064
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 2: How about the chiefs man they've got? Chris Jones is

1065
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 2: a free agent, Lagurious Sneid is a free agent. Those

1066
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: are the big name guys. You also sprinkling, Willie Gay,

1067
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: Drew Tranquell.

1068
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: There's a number of guys here.

1069
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: I don't see how they pay both Chris Jones and

1070
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 2: Lagerious Snead.

1071
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: You can't pay all of them, that's right now.

1072
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: Now the CAP's going up, and that there there is

1073
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,479
Speaker 3: something to be said about teams or players taking less

1074
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 3: to try to be a dynasty. And I'm sure they

1075
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 3: will get a hometown discount on a lot of these guys.

1076
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: But it's math like, you can't keep all of them.

1077
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're gonna have to make some tough choices. Man,

1078
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: who do you keep?

1079
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 2: Areold to Chris Jones or Lagerious Snead?

1080
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 3: I think I think Sneid is more of an impact

1081
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 3: position in terms of the premium positions in the NFL. Right,

1082
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 3: we viewed corner a little differently than nose tackle. But

1083
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,359
Speaker 3: Chris Jones is not your average nose tackle, and that's

1084
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 3: what makes him very different. Like he's a guy that

1085
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 3: rushes the passer and when called upon, can stop the run.

1086
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 3: That's a very rare trait in today's NFL. But Sneid

1087
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 3: has this kind of nose for the ball that makes

1088
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 3: him sort of revis Island in a sense. And that

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00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 3: that I mean it really tough. I think those two

1090
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 3: guys are maybe the best two free agents in the

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00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: entire class of this defensive free agent class.

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00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 1: And the fact that they both play for the same team,

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00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: it's very unique.

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00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's a tough one, man, because Chris Jones,

1095
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: he is he's like a D tackle slash d n Yeah,

1096
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 2: though sometimes he's an end.

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00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:55,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1098
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: And it's not to take anything away from Lugerius Snead.

1099
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 2: He is really really good and I think really underrated.

1100
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: I saw a couple of things written about, Hey, how

1101
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: about the Eagles with luxurious snuff Man. It's like, oh,

1102
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 2: that would be uh, that would make quite the difference

1103
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: right there, if they're able to make that happen. Because

1104
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: and James Bradberry, it was a long.

1105
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 3: Year over there. Philly's defense needs a big time renovation. Yeah,

1106
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 3: and you saw it with Gannon. You saw great the

1107
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: Cardinals played down the stretch of last season. I mean,

1108
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 3: I I I think Philly's defense, I think Philly in

1109
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: general needs a bit of a of a tweak with

1110
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: the coaching staff.

1111
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: Like that.

1112
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 3: That coaching staff and how they push those buttons and

1113
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 3: get those pieces to fit together. That might be the

1114
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 3: early story of next year because that.

1115
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: NFC east Man I it's it's it's a it's available,

1116
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 1: it is available for the taking.

1117
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 4: It is.

1118
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 2: It definitely is. And uh, I'm so curious to see

1119
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: what the Chiefs roster looks like. They're gonna have some

1120
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: positive tweaks. They're gonna have some negative tweaks. You can't

1121
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: keep everybody they kept.

1122
00:53:59,239 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: That's important. That's a huge, huge, get right there.

1123
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 2: But I think that sometimes we fall into this trap

1124
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 2: of thinking they've got Mahomes, it'll be fine.

1125
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like the difference is Mahomes had a top

1126
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 3: ten Like, they don't even make it to this point

1127
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 3: if they don't have that top ten defense. It's right,

1128
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 3: like like the defense. I know Mahomes won the Super

1129
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 3: Bowl and there's no doubting that. I think the defense

1130
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 3: was a big reason too. But they don't get to

1131
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: the super Bowl without that defense.

1132
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, they had a sensational year. They absolutely did.

1133
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: All Right.

1134
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 2: He's Jared Smith FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian now coming

1135
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 2: up next from the Tirack dot Com studios. Tim Murray

1136
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: from Vson College Basketball Expert. We've got some great ranked

1137
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 2: versus ranked games. We've got a top five ranked versus

1138
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: ran Yeah, Yeah, big day. Might even sneak in Horizon

1139
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 2: League stuff.

1140
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 1: Come on, I know, let's do it. Big game against

1141
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: buck Nell guys, huge one today.

1142
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 2: I know you're looking forward to that, right. They're the

1143
00:54:56,400 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 2: Bison over there, bog Bell Bison. I think hope they

1144
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 2: go down in Flames today eating Bison burgers for dinner.

1145
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who knows for sure. That's Tim Murray. Absolutely,

1146
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: he's on the way. It is Fox Sports Saturday right

1147
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday

1148
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,200
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1149
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,560
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1150
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,399
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1155
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 2: Like to welcome in Tim Murray, Vson host college basketball expert.

1156
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: You know, Tim, welcome in here.

1157
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: It feels like we've got a thousand games today as

1158
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,879
Speaker 2: always on a college basketball Saturday. What's the one game

1159
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 2: you've got circled above all others?

1160
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, appreciate you guys having me. I think it has

1161
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 8: to be Marquette and Yukon. You know this is a

1162
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 8: top five matchup. Yukon very much in store for another

1163
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 8: number one seed and and for Marquette. You know this

1164
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 8: is actually you kind didn't have a one seed they

1165
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 8: won the national title, but they were in a one

1166
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 8: seed last year. But Yukon is in line for a

1167
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 8: one seed and Marquette could work their way onto the

1168
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 8: one line with a win today.

1169
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: So you know, you got a great big East matchup.

1170
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 8: You've got you know, Shaka Smart in a role that

1171
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 8: he's thrived in so much as as a head coach

1172
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 8: back in his days at VCU, even when he was

1173
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 8: at Texas and now at Marquette.

1174
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: As an underdog.

1175
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 8: You know, Yukon's about a seven point favorite today and

1176
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 8: you know, the the job that Connecticut has done.

1177
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: So far this year and Dan Hurley when you think

1178
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: about last year.

1179
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 8: Guys, when you lose Adamisnogo, you lose Jordan Hawkins, you

1180
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 8: lose Andre Jackson. I mean, those are three pros that

1181
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 8: they lost in a national championship season and they haven't

1182
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 8: skipped a beat.

1183
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,760
Speaker 1: They have not lost a game since Christmas.

1184
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 8: They are on the longest winning streak in college basketball.

1185
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 8: And you know, they've dealt with injuries at different points

1186
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 8: this year too, and they've been able to overcome it.

1187
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 8: You know, Donovan Klingen, the big man who kind of

1188
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 8: stepped in for uh, you know Adamas Snogo has hasn't

1189
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 8: really skipped a beat.

1190
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

1191
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 8: They went out to the transfer portal brought in Cam Spencer,

1192
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 8: who uh you know, was at Rutgers last year, started

1193
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 8: his career at Loyola Maryland and then on the other

1194
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 8: side for Marquette. You know, this is a team that

1195
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 8: had a lot of preseason hype bout out early last year.

1196
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 8: But this is a team that won the Big East

1197
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 8: both regular and conference championship at the Garden last year,

1198
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 8: and they two guys are on an eight game winning streak.

1199
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Speaker 1: So look, there's a lot of good games today.

1200
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 8: But for me, uh, Marquette at Yukon, uh you know,

1201
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 8: Big East type of game. Tyler Kohlik if you haven't

1202
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 8: watched him, he's an absolute star h for Marquette. He's

1203
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 8: the type of guy you know very much, uh, you know,

1204
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 8: putting a you know, a proverbial thing out there, but

1205
00:57:58,600 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 8: he puts his team on his back when he had

1206
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 8: as an opportunity to do so. So a lot of

1207
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 8: good games today, no doubt, but for me, that is

1208
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 8: the one that is appointment watching at three o'clock Eastern.

1209
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, And for those of you who don't know,

1210
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 3: Tim Shock as smart as an underdog is one of

1211
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 3: his favorite trends. So tough tough not to back Marquette

1212
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: getting some points today.

1213
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: Twenty one eight.

1214
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 8: And three said, twenty one eight and three at Marquette

1215
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 8: four zero to one. That's against the spread. The only

1216
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 8: time they did not cover against the closing number this year,

1217
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 8: and the closing number is, of course, the final point

1218
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 8: spread as the game tips off was when they were

1219
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 8: out in Maui and they were playing Perdue.

1220
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: They lost by three as a three point underdog. So

1221
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: we'll see.

1222
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 8: You know, they're gonna be a popular underdog, and the

1223
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 8: market really hasn't moved a ton, so that always makes

1224
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 8: me worried.

1225
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: But you know, it's a it's a It's an incredible game,

1226
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: for sure, it absolutely is.

1227
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 3: I think we've got one in the sec to Auburn

1228
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 3: in Kentucky and we just don't know what this Kentucky

1229
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 3: team is right lose at home Aganzaga, but some really

1230
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 3: high per file wins as well. You got Auburn at home,

1231
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 3: coming off of an interesting game against South Carolina where

1232
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 3: maybe the market was in a weird spot, but they

1233
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:10,439
Speaker 3: just blew the doors off of the game.

1234
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: Cocks.

1235
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 3: Now you have to reload and face a really talented

1236
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 3: Kentucky team at home. Is Auburn laying too many points

1237
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 3: in this spot?

1238
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is a game, to be honest, and it's

1239
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 8: always important. I have not bet personally, but we can

1240
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 8: run through it. You mentioned Auburn Jared at home. This

1241
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 8: is a team that is very jekyling hide to say

1242
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 8: the least in Auburn because they've got some losses that

1243
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 8: make you scratch your head.

1244
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: Last Saturday, they went on.

1245
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 8: The road to Gainesville, tricky spot coming off of a

1246
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 8: rivalry win, but they got their doors blown off by Florida.

1247
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 8: But they're at home today, got college game Day going

1248
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 8: on right now as we speak there.

1249
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: And this is what they've done so far at home.

1250
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 8: In the SEC January ninth against Texas A and M,

1251
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 8: they were a six and a half point favorite.

1252
00:59:59,040 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: They won by eleven.

1253
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 8: January thirteenth against LSU thirteen and a half point favorite

1254
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 8: one by fifteen. January twentieth against Old Miss, they were

1255
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 8: a twelve and a half point favorite. They won by

1256
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 8: twenty three. Vanderbilt they played on January thirty first at home,

1257
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 8: they were a eighteen and a half point favorite one

1258
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 8: by twenty seven. And then the game you alluded to

1259
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 8: Jared on Wednesday, they were a ten and a half

1260
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 8: point favorite against actually I think it closed twelve against

1261
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 8: South Carolina and they won by forty. So this is

1262
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 8: a team that has just absolutely obliterated foes at home.

1263
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 8: And then you flip it on the other side, and

1264
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 8: Kentucky's just one of those conundrums, like what is Kentucky?

1265
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: Right? Who are you?

1266
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 8: You've beaten North Carolina on a neutral floor back in December,

1267
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 8: very impressive win, but then you also lost at home

1268
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 8: to UNC Wilmington. You lose to Gonzaga at home last

1269
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 8: week as a four point favorite, but they bounced back

1270
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 8: and won, you know, against Ole Miss.

1271
01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: So this is a fascinating spot. I guess it forced

1272
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: to play it.

1273
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 8: As crazy as it sounds, I might look to take

1274
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 8: Kentucky here in this spot, just because of the talent

1275
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 8: that's on that roster and the upside that is there.

1276
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 8: But now this is this is a game that I

1277
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 8: have not personally played. Very curious to see how this

1278
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 8: one plays out, because you know, let's be honest to guys,

1279
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 8: I mean, Kentucky at times is allergic to playing defense.

1280
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 8: I mean they had a stretch of games where you

1281
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 8: lose to Florida in overtime ninety four to ninety one,

1282
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 8: you give up one hundred and three at home to Tennessee,

1283
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 8: and then you lose at home to Gonzaga, you know,

1284
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 8: losing three straight at Rup snapping that losing streak earlier

1285
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 8: this week. So fascinating one, no doubt. And Auburn is

1286
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 8: a team you know, as you'll start to hear the

1287
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 8: ken palm, the torvik, those types of buzzwords being thrown

1288
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 8: around college basketball fodder, ken palm and the advanced numbers.

1289
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 8: They love Auburn and on the flip side, they don't

1290
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 8: really like Kentucky all that much.

1291
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: Kentucky, in the isa Ken Palm is in a top

1292
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 1: twenty five team.

1293
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 2: He's Tim Murray Vson, host college basketball expert joining us

1294
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 2: here in Fox Sports Radio. It's my favorite stat of

1295
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:12,919
Speaker 2: the year so far so this season. Tim Top ten

1296
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 2: teams are just thirty two and thirty three on the

1297
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 2: road against unranked opponents.

1298
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: Wow, they got a losing record on the road.

1299
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 2: So it leads me to this, which emotion is stronger

1300
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: for you as the tournament isn't too far away. Is

1301
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: it a top ten team you have faith in or

1302
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 2: is it a top ten team you don't have faith in?

1303
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Speaker 1: I think it's the latter.

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Speaker 8: I think we're definitely going to see a lot of

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Speaker 8: teams that are highly ranked, you know, be knocked off early.

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Speaker 8: Now that does come with a caveat. I do have

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Speaker 8: confidence in Yukon and Purdue. Yes, I know Purdue. Yes,

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Speaker 8: they lost last year in the first round of fairly Dickinson,

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Speaker 8: I'm well aware lost to Saint Mary's two years ago

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Speaker 8: in the sweet sixteen. But those two teams, to be honest,

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Speaker 8: and if you want to throw in Houston, they they're

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Speaker 8: the ones that don't really mess around. They're the ones

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Speaker 8: that have gone on the road and taking care business.

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Speaker 8: You know, last Saturday, Houston goes on the road. They're

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Speaker 8: playing Cincinnati. To your point about that unique stat and

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Speaker 8: the big twelve is even more outrageous. I think the

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Speaker 8: number is I want to say three and ten straight

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Speaker 8: up for top ten teams versus unranked teams in the

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Speaker 8: Big twelve, and Houston took care business. They didn't cover

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Speaker 8: against Cincinnati, But I throw Houston a little bit in there.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean it's every week, Brian. You're seeing

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Speaker 8: different teams going out there and just getting knocked off.

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Speaker 8: And I was just doing a running tally. I fell

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Speaker 8: a little bit behind of those types of teams, and

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Speaker 8: that we see it on a regular basis. And here's

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Speaker 8: the thing, too, is the betting market is kind of

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Speaker 8: agreeing with that. You're seeing a lot of these spots

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Speaker 8: where the unranked team is the favorite right against against

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Speaker 8: the top ten teams. So you know we'll see interesting

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Speaker 8: spot today. I have bet at personally. But you know,

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01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 8: history has told us if we go back to the

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Speaker 8: Raycom days back in the late nineties and think about

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Speaker 8: those Duke Blue Devils going down to Tallahassee, it always

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Speaker 8: felt like Bobby Surah and the boys would get a

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Speaker 8: win over Florida State or win over Duke. So you know,

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Speaker 8: that's an interesting one today that I'm intrigued by. Might

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Speaker 8: end up pulling the trigger a little bit on Florida State.

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Speaker 8: Oklahoma is not unranked their twenty fifth, but they're taking

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Speaker 8: on Kansas. And look at Kansas this year, guys, going

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Speaker 8: on the road. Kansas is a team that you know,

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Speaker 8: is thought of very highly in the eyes of the

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Speaker 8: AP poll voters. But the last time they went on

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Speaker 8: the road, guess what happened against an unranked team. Lost

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Speaker 8: by twenty nine, lost to Texas Tech by twenty nine.

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Speaker 8: So you know, we'll see if it's a bounce back

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01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 8: spot for Bill self squad. But it's it's fascinating and.

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Speaker 1: You know one game that I'll give you that is

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Speaker 1: going to be a hold your nose type of special.

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Speaker 1: But it fits the Big twelve.

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Speaker 8: West Virginia is not a very good basketball team right now, guys,

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Speaker 8: but go into West Virginia weird travel spot. I think

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Speaker 8: Baylor is going to have a battle on their hands today.

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Speaker 8: We'll see. I mean, they're about a six and a

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Speaker 8: half point under a favorite on the road at West

1355
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 8: Virginia and West Virginia on the you might as well

1356
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Speaker 8: just notch up a loss when they hit the road.

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Speaker 8: But at home this year, they've beaten Texas, They've beaten Kansas,

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Speaker 8: and they've beaten Cincinnati, a team that is fighting for

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Speaker 8: an NCAA tournament Berth. So yeah, it is going to

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Speaker 8: be a very interesting big dance because I think the

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Speaker 8: number team number five through team number thirty five is

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Speaker 8: very much kind.

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Speaker 1: Of up in the air.

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Speaker 8: And you know, look, last year we saw a team

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Speaker 8: in Florida Atlantic make a magical run to the final four.

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Speaker 8: We saw a team in San Diego State go to

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Speaker 8: the national championship game. I would not be surprised if

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01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 8: we're seeing some unique names in Glendale, Arizona in early April.

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Speaker 3: Is there a name that you maybe want to throw

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Speaker 3: out there right now? Hey, you know what, this is

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Speaker 3: a mid major team, or this is a team that's

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Speaker 3: a little bit under the radar high major team. Maybe

1373
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 3: that's you know, average, you know in their conference. Hey,

1374
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 3: this is a team to keep an eye on as

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01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 3: we get closer to the tournament. Might be trending in

1376
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Speaker 3: a very positive direction.

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Speaker 8: I mean the team, Jared, honestly that I was that

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01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 8: I was high on for a little bit was New

1379
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 8: Mexico and they're starting to fall off. They lost last

1380
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Speaker 8: night in a really tricky spot against San Diego State.

1381
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,919
Speaker 8: Big revenge spot New Mexico in the Mountain West. They've

1382
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 8: had some nice wins, but they've they've fallen a couple

1383
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 8: times here. So they're a team to keep an eye

1384
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 8: on in the Lobos. Really good guard play with Jalen

1385
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 8: House and Donovan Dent and Jamal Mashburn. But team them

1386
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 8: just a little bit down on because the size does

1387
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 8: worry me a little bit. A team that I think

1388
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 8: will win today and maybe get back in some winning

1389
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 8: ways is Colorado State, Nico Medved and that squad. They've

1390
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 8: got a legit, big time guard in Isaiah Stevens. I

1391
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 8: don't know if they make a I'll give you one

1392
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 8: Jared that really intrigues me. And it's not going too

1393
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 8: crazy off the radar, But this is a team that

1394
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 8: massively disappointed early on in the year and has really

1395
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 8: had some resurgence here. And that's Saint Mary's. And look,

1396
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 8: this is a team that has obviously been a I

1397
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 8: don't say household name, but a familiar name for college

1398
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 8: basketball folks. And the start of their year was an

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01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,800
Speaker 8: absolute disaster. They lost at home to Weaver State. They

1400
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 8: lost pretty much every toss up game that they had.

1401
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 8: They were getting, you know, blown out by some folks.

1402
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 8: They came out to Vegas and they got you know,

1403
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 8: run by San Diego State and Xavier by double digits

1404
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 8: both times. But since then, since Christmas, guys, they've turned

1405
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 8: it around. Haven't lost since Christmas. They are tied with

1406
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 8: Yukon for the longest winning streak in college basketball. So

1407
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 8: you know, this is a team that The reason you

1408
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,919
Speaker 8: get a little bit worried backing a team like Saint

1409
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 8: Mary's making a deep run is that they're very slow, right,

1410
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 8: kind of UVA style, one of the lowest tempos in

1411
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 8: the country, top ten in defense. So you get a

1412
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,960
Speaker 8: bit worried backing teams like that and seeing if they

1413
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 8: can make the deep run.

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01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: But you know they're probably as of right now, guys.

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01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 8: If you look at bracket Matrix, which is a really

1416
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 8: good resource to have this time of year, which takes

1417
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 8: all of the bracketologists and kind of throws them together

1418
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 8: and one aggregate and spits out what the number is,

1419
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 8: they're probably on the seven line. And if they keep

1420
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 8: running the table, they'll have gonzag at home. Maybe they

1421
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 8: get up to a six, And you know that's a

1422
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 8: really juicy spot, you know, backing a team in a

1423
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 8: six spot in that portion of a bracket is always

1424
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 8: kind of ideal making a nice long run, and then

1425
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 8: you know, lastly, real quickly, you know, Indiana State's a

1426
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Speaker 8: team that just got knocked off. They're going to have

1427
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Speaker 8: to win their conference tournament, I think, in order to

1428
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 8: get into the NCAA tournament, and you know that's no

1429
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 8: easy run. The Missouri Valley is is not as good

1430
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 8: as it once was. I mean, I remember back in

1431
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 8: the day with you know, Creighton and Wichita and Northern Iowa.

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Speaker 1: That's not the case anymore. But Indiana State's the real deal.

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01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 8: Got ranked for the first time since nineteen seventy nine

1434
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 8: earlier this week and then really quickly got knocked off

1435
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 8: by Illinois State as a seventeen and a half point

1436
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 8: favorite at home. But it's a good conference. Indiana State

1437
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 8: and Drake should be the championship game. That'll be a

1438
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 8: fun one. But I think the Sycamores could be a

1439
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 8: team that could you know, win a couple games come

1440
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 8: March if they get the proper draw. Right now, you're

1441
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 8: looking at Indiana State, I think probably on that eleven

1442
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 8: ish line at this point.

1443
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 2: Well, hey, Tim, hope you enjoyed the games man, Thanks

1444
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 2: for a few minutes today and we'll.

1445
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: Catch up with you soon. All right, our fellows, anytime,

1446
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Great stuff, Bud, thank you.

1447
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: There he is Tim Murray Vsent host college basketball expert.

1448
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 2: We go from one expert to another here. You know,

1449
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: Tim Murray knows college oops. Isaac Lowancron, he knows life

1450
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,599
Speaker 2: and he knows the sports world. He's got an update

1451
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 2: for you.

1452
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: What's going on?

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01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 7: I Low fellas, we indeed begin with college hoops because

1454
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 7: basketball Hall of Famer and former longtime Maryland head coach

1455
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 7: left eat and Drizzelle passed away today at the age

1456
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 7: of ninety two. Drizzel won seven hundred and eighty six

1457
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,759
Speaker 7: games during a forty year head coaching career that included

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01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 7: twenty one twenty win seasons.

1459
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 6: All told.

1460
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 7: He took four schools to the NCAA Tournament in Maryland,

1461
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:20,759
Speaker 7: also Davidson, James Madison and Georgia State. Drizzelle was inducted

1462
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 7: into the Basketball Hall of Fame in twenty eighteen, and

1463
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 7: here's how he concluded his induction speech.

1464
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: Basketball is being great to me and for me to

1465
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: get in his.

1466
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 6: Hall of Fame is like unbelievable, and thank you very much.

1467
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 7: The fourteen finalists for the Basketball Hall of Fame Class

1468
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 7: of twenty twenty four were revealed on Friday at NBA

1469
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 7: All Star Weekend in Indianapolis, headlined by Vince Carter and

1470
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 7: Shauncey Billups. The inductees will be announced at the Final

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01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 7: four in April. On Friday night, Yukon Star Paige becker

1472
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 7: Is announced she will be turning next season and not

1473
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 7: going to the w NBA. Finally, in golf, Tiger Woods

1474
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 7: withdrew from the second round of the Genesis Invitational at

1475
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 7: Riviera on Friday, Dude to illness, Patrick Cantley as a

1476
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 7: five shot lead at thirteen under par overall through the

1477
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,680
Speaker 7: first two rounds. Fella, it's all yours, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I lo it is Fox Sports Radios.

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01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,160
Speaker 2: Fox It's Fox Sports Saturday.

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01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 1: There you go good. I'm like, we did our shows.

1481
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we did countdown to kickoff all football season,

1482
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know, it's like, I've got to

1483
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 2: reprogram myself over here where this is.

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01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1485
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 2: After It's like, it's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Saturday

1486
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 2: is what I've been there.

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Speaker 9: Bro.

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01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 1: You know what I got beef over here?

1489
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,640
Speaker 2: Jared, No, boy, what we got I've got beef with

1490
01:11:55,840 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 2: college basketball, oh man, because of last night. Okay, I

1491
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,480
Speaker 2: got Canecious and Marist.

1492
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:07,879
Speaker 1: And similar teams.

1493
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 2: Yes, we had no good matchups last night. Yeah, it's

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01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 2: the first Friday after the NFL season. The Super Bowl

1495
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 2: ended last Sunday. Right, this should be a big college

1496
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:27,440
Speaker 2: basketball week the NBA, their last games were on Thursday.

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01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 2: They've got a week off for the All Star break. Yeah,

1498
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 2: it could have been a big spotlight night for college basketball.

1499
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: And you've got Dartmouth and Columbia.

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Speaker 1: What are you?

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01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 3: IVY Friday nights are just I so the IVY League

1502
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 3: plays every Friday Saturday, so it's like that Friday night

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01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 3: IVY game is just it's always unique. And yeah, the Mac,

1504
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 3: not the not like Maction Mac, like the Mac, the

1505
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 3: Metro Atlantic. They all play on Friday Night and then

1506
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 3: you get the usually though, we get a big ten

1507
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,240
Speaker 3: game in the mix. We didn't have any big ten

1508
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 3: and I don't know why I agree like we should

1509
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 3: have had a big ten game last night.

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Speaker 1: We did have Villanovo whipping up on Georgetown. That was

1511
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Speaker 1: kind of eh.

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Speaker 3: And then Tim mentioned for the late night folks, you

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01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 3: had New Mexico San Diego State.

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01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: But that game started I think at like eight o'clock Pacific,

1515
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 1: so they're staying up till midnight.

1516
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 3: There should have been like a seven o'clock, eight o'clock

1517
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 3: Eastern ranked game or at least a Big ten game.

1518
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 3: And yeah, Friday nights it is a missed opportunity because

1519
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 3: they don't really have a ton of and I guess

1520
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 3: it's the travel schedule that is a big hamper of it.

1521
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 3: But like, I'm looking at next Friday schedule and I

1522
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 3: don't think you're gonna be too happy, Brian, Yeah, Flard

1523
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 3: against Jacksonville kicking off the night at the seven o'clock Eastern.

1524
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: Have fun with that one.

1525
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 2: This is typically the way it goes on Friday night.

1526
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 2: I understand that, but you gotta make an exception for

1527
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 2: the first Friday night. Sure after the NFL goes away.

1528
01:13:56,120 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: And there's no NBA. There was nothing college.

1529
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:04,719
Speaker 2: Basketball last night or hockey or but if you're looking

1530
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 2: for some hoops and you're like, Okay, the football season's over,

1531
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 2: let's dive head first into hoops. What's on the NBA agenda? Nothing?

1532
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 2: It's the All Star break? Okay, college hoops?

1533
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:20,639
Speaker 1: What we got? Marist? Like, what are we doing. Could

1534
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: you give me one ranked team?

1535
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 2: You've got some good games today, Like I'd be happy

1536
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 2: of just looking at the rank games.

1537
01:14:27,280 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to give me star studied,

1538
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: you don't.

1539
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 2: Ideally it would have been a one versus four matchup

1540
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:37,160
Speaker 2: Marquette yukon last night. They don't get Yeah, but just

1541
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 2: give me something, give me someone i've heard of. If

1542
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:41,560
Speaker 2: you had Kentucky Auburn.

1543
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 1: Last night, huge, yeah.

1544
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: I mean, if you have a ranked team, if you

1545
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 2: had Virginia Tech North Carolina, that's a game at two

1546
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 2: pm Eastern today. If that's the game last night, I

1547
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 2: guarantee you're gonna have some people just.

1548
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: Looking for a game.

1549
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 3: They're gonna be watching that North Florida kennessaw baby, that

1550
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 3: was the That was the gem of the night. Eighty

1551
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 3: two eighty one final tight game in the Atlantic Sun.

1552
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 3: What do they call it in radio? They call it kume?

1553
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 3: You know, how many people are you bringing in? And

1554
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,719
Speaker 3: then it's like how long are they staying?

1555
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: The cume?

1556
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 2: Last night for college hoops had to suck? Yeah, right,

1557
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,560
Speaker 2: come on, who come in there? Who's coming under the

1558
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 2: tent for that?

1559
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: Come on? Big game in Westchester County.

1560
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you just have to ask yourself, what

1561
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 2: would the NFL do? Do you think you have to

1562
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 2: suspend reality for a second, But do you think if

1563
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 2: the NFL wasn't the show in town, right, but the

1564
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 2: show in town just ended the season and they've got

1565
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 2: a chance to shine, do you think they would schedule

1566
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 2: a couple of bottom feeders where you could just roll

1567
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 2: your eyes and be like, I'm not interested in that.

1568
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 2: There's no way they would do that.

1569
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: Bring out the stars? Yeah, yes, my goodness, good, get

1570
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 1: it off your chest. But it's okay. I feel safe space,

1571
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: feel a little bit better now there.

1572
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 2: You would think sometimes when I get these things off

1573
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 2: my chest, I would feel better.

1574
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 1: Sometimes I just feel worse. Sounds like a problem for therapy.

1575
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely could be.

1576
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1577
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 2: All right, come it up next. Oh, we've got some

1578
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 2: prop bets. It's a big day of college shoops. You

1579
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 2: also have NBA All Star weekend. Oh that's where I'm going.

1580
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:31,519
Speaker 2: That's where you're going. I'm going a little all right,

1581
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 2: we'll compare notes right around the corner. I'm Brian No,

1582
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,560
Speaker 2: he's Jared Smith. It's Fox Sports Saturday right here on

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Speaker 1: Right, let's do this.

1592
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 4: Prop it up player plays.

1593
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,720
Speaker 1: Okay, we've got prop betscalore here.

1594
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 2: We've got college basketball games like crazy, We've got an

1595
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 2: NBA All Star weekend.

1596
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 1: Are you going straight to the skills competition on me here, Jared?

1597
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 3: I think that's in terms of this weekend, that's probably

1598
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 3: my favorite prop bets to look at. I will admit

1599
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 3: college basketball props have become a bigger part of the

1600
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 3: equation for me.

1601
01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: There are more offerings in that area.

1602
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 2: Now.

1603
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: Bet MGM does a good job and putting those out there,

1604
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 1: we will get into some college basketball props and probably

1605
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 1: some NBA props as we and maybe even NHL. Actually

1606
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: that's another one shot on Goalprop's been something I've be

1607
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: dabbling with lately.

1608
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 3: So I get to those twenty of Time, the whole spring,

1609
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 3: summer playoffs, all that stuff, but All Star Weekend and Brian,

1610
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but for me, the Dunk

1611
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 3: Contest growing up and the three point Contest kind of

1612
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 3: this you know moment in time that you always remember.

1613
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 3: For me, it was the Vince Carter and it's over

1614
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 3: like and just those those dunk contests resonate.

1615
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: It's a different vibe now.

1616
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 3: It's not as sexy, I think, as it was before.

1617
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 3: It's a little more flashy, but not quite the starch

1618
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 3: that was behind it. But I think we have some

1619
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 3: interesting opportunities to bet it. I'm not betting Matt McClung,

1620
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 3: who's like a three dollars favorite, like minus two seventy

1621
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 3: five to I can't lay juice in a dunk contest,

1622
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 3: but I do look at vertical jump as a metric

1623
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 3: to track, and if you look at that category, Jacob Toppin, who's.

1624
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: At plus eight fifty, is an interesting wager. He's got

1625
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: a forty five inch vertical.

1626
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 3: He's the brother of Obi Top and of course he

1627
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,680
Speaker 3: won the Dunk Contest a couple of years ago. It

1628
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,640
Speaker 3: could be some interesting you know spectacles there using his

1629
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 3: brother as a as a prop at some point. But

1630
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 3: I'll think Jacob toppin plus eight fifty. And in the

1631
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 3: three point contest, I'll give you two haliburt and the

1632
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 3: hometown kid right knows the Rims plays in that building.

1633
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 3: He's around five to one plus four fifty. And then

1634
01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 3: Carl Anthony Towns, who won it two years ago, is

1635
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 3: like seven to one. So I think that's another interesting wager.

1636
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 3: A guy who maybe gets overlooked because he's a big man,

1637
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,600
Speaker 3: but he can really shoot the three. So Town's and

1638
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 3: Halliburton on the three point side, and I'll give you

1639
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 3: a topping for the dunk contos.

1640
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm gonna go to college hoops on

1641
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,599
Speaker 2: you I like it. I'm gonna go with a couple

1642
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 2: of prop bets, a couple of scorers. If you will,

1643
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 2: let me go over on one under on the other.

1644
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 2: Let me go over with Baylor Bear ray J. Dennis. Huh,

1645
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 2: he's going up against West Virginia. I think I'm good

1646
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 2: for thirteen points on West Virginia. I don't know if

1647
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 2: you agree with that or not.

1648
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 1: Here that might be a strip. Maybe I think ray J.

1649
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,200
Speaker 2: Dennis is good for over twelve and a half against

1650
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 2: West Virginia this evening. And now I'm gonna go to

1651
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: the Kentucky game. I like Antonio Reeves, but at Auburn.

1652
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:55,679
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go under under nineteen and a half today

1653
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 2: for a Reeves.

1654
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:58,560
Speaker 1: So there you go, Ray J.

1655
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 2: Dennis over twelve and a half, Antonio Reeves under nineteen

1656
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 2: and a half. Kentucky's weird, right, Like I could see

1657
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 2: their offense going pretty good tonight, I can see their

1658
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 2: offense really struggling.

1659
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:11,559
Speaker 1: So the mixed bag what.

1660
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:15,480
Speaker 3: You get with UK upside they can win it all downside,

1661
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 3: first round exit.

1662
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: Very volatile team, highly volatile.

1663
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 2: I love, by the way, the shots on goal. You

1664
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 2: don't even need a score. You're like it was saved,

1665
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: but it was on goal, right, that counts right.

1666
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: I love those props. The prompt markets.

1667
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 3: Again, the more markets that are out there, the harder

1668
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 3: it is for the sports books to keep up with them.

1669
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, Coming up next, there have been some

1670
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 2: glowing comments about this guy, and for the life of me,

1671
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 2: I don't know why, oh what is going on? Good

1672
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 2: morning to you here it is Jared Smith and Brian

1673
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 2: Know with you on Fox Sports Radio.

1674
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 3: No.

1675
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Speaker 2: Rich this week, he's celebrating his birthday. You know, rich

1676
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Speaker 2: a couple of Margarita's over there. I don't know, but

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Speaker 1: Okay, Jared.

1683
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 2: So, there have been some glowing things said about current

1684
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 2: Bears quarterback Justin Fields.

1685
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 1: Not your favorite guy. Some of these comments are crazy, right.

1686
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 2: I've read columns, there have been articles, there have been

1687
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:34,479
Speaker 2: talking heads. This is our Fox Sports radio colleague, our guy,

1688
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 2: Jason Smith, right, level headed, smart guy for sure.

1689
01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 1: Every now and then a crazy prediction or two.

1690
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 2: But this is something that he said about Justin Fields

1691
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 2: potentially being a member of the Black and Gold Pittsburgh Steelers.

1692
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: If the Steelers got Fields next season, I look right now,

1693
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: I would look at the Steelers' Super Bowl future odds

1694
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:58,560
Speaker 1: because I would make them. I would make them my

1695
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 1: super Bowl pick next year. If this Dealers got Justin Field. Wow, yeah, whoa, whoa?

1696
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:09,559
Speaker 2: What's the line from a few good men where it's

1697
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 2: like I strenuously.

1698
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 3: Strenuously Jack, strenuously of Jack. No, I've Jack like strenuously

1699
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 3: of Jack.

1700
01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 2: I compare Justin Fields his numbers to a couple of quarterbacks,

1701
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 2: and you don't want to be compared to these guys,

1702
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 2: but the numbers are similar. Okay, what's mac Jones' reputation

1703
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 2: right now? Jared the Patriots quarterback, bottom barrel barrel can't win,

1704
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 2: so same draft class. Right, Justin Fields has started thirty

1705
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 2: eight games. Mac Jones has started forty two, So comparable. Right,

1706
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 2: You've got mac Jones with about twenty two hundred more

1707
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 2: passing yards. Mac Jones has thrown six more touchdown passes,

1708
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 2: six more interceptions, so comparable. Right, mac Jones is a

1709
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 2: better completion percentage, He's got a higher passer rating through

1710
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 2: three years, a much fewer sacks. Really, the only thing

1711
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 2: that Justin Fields does separating himself is running the ball,

1712
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 2: and he does that very well. But passing he's on

1713
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 2: the coldest sack of mac Jones and Daniel Jones, the

1714
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 2: Giants quarterback. Where Daniel Jones higher passer rating, many more

1715
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 2: passing yards, he started twenty one more games, but better record,

1716
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 2: like you don't want to be compared to those guys.

1717
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 2: For the life of me, I can't figure out why

1718
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 2: Justin Fields, who's done nothing with the Bears, is all

1719
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 2: of a sudden like this, what this hot quarterback commodity

1720
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 2: that might get dealt and look out, this team's gonna

1721
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 2: take off like wildfire. What are we talking about?

1722
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: Right?

1723
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 2: Am I watching a different NFL than some other people

1724
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: when it comes to Justin Fields.

1725
01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 3: No, you're watching the right NFL. I think I can't

1726
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 3: speak to the numbers. The numbers are what they are.

1727
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of context in them. They're not great,

1728
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 3: the ratings average. I would say, you give him a

1729
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,680
Speaker 3: bonus point for the mobility, and maybe you give him

1730
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 3: a little bit of the benefit of the doubt for

1731
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 3: the situation. Right He's had two coordinators in three years

1732
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 3: in Chicago, bounced around a couple spots in college, didn't

1733
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 3: play a whole they didn't have a whole lot of

1734
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 3: experience in college, and then came to the NFL and

1735
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 3: it was kind of thrust on him very early on.

1736
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:31,560
Speaker 1: So I again the benefit of the doubt there. But

1737
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: the numbers aren't good.

1738
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,560
Speaker 3: So usually it is a sink or swim league. And

1739
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 3: when guys get put into situations and they're good players,

1740
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 3: they play well. Regardless of whether they or not they

1741
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 3: have the experience or the know the pedigree, they play

1742
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 3: well in big spots. So I think there is a

1743
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 3: certain vibe for me that wants to give Justin a

1744
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 3: clean slate, and I would be interested to see what

1745
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 3: that clean slate is and kind of how it plays out.

1746
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 3: But there are not a lot of good options where

1747
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 3: he's just gonna pair shooed in and become this great player,

1748
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 3: because let's be honest, if a team is that desperate

1749
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 3: for a quarterback, well then the rest of the team's

1750
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:09,639
Speaker 3: probably not very good either. So it just it it's

1751
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 3: an interesting pr campaign. Luke Getzi was also singing his

1752
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 3: praises last week the New Right Bears former OC.

1753
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, new OC in Vegas. That could be an interesting

1754
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 1: landing spot, right.

1755
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 3: We talked about the Raiders and the Jimmy Garoppolo stuff

1756
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:27,759
Speaker 3: maybe coming up, But they've got a quarterback opening Pittsburgh

1757
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 3: Scott one. But you put them on those teams, it

1758
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 3: doesn't make him super Bowl contenders. It just gives him

1759
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 3: another chance to show what he's got.

1760
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: That's the thing, man, is.

1761
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 2: It's a difference if you were to say, hey, Justin

1762
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 2: Fields compared to let's take the Steelers compared to Kenny

1763
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:49,920
Speaker 2: Pickett compared to like Mason Rudolph or Mitch Trubisky, who

1764
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:50,560
Speaker 2: they got rid of.

1765
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: It's an upgrade.

1766
01:25:52,160 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I can buy that, But to be like, look out,

1767
01:25:56,960 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 2: they're just gonna take off from here. It's again if

1768
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 2: you look at mac Jones and Daniel Jones. You hear

1769
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 2: this a lot with Justin Fields, Well, look at Justin

1770
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 2: Field supporting cast. Mac Jones and Daniel Jones have worse

1771
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 2: supporting cast. Especially mac Jones his j Moore, who's his

1772
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 2: cole Kamet you know what I'm saying.

1773
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: It's no running ability.

1774
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and mac Jones has put up better numbers than

1775
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 2: Justin Fields has. If the Steelers got Mac Jones, is

1776
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 2: the takeaway like WHOA, look out, they could be special.

1777
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 2: He's finally got some weapons around him too, much.

1778
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 1: Like Kenny Pickett.

1779
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1780
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: The only thing that gives Justin the chance to succeed

1781
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 1: is because the mobility is.

1782
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 3: There, and if he ever does have a coordinator or

1783
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:45,560
Speaker 3: an offense, that he figures it out in their's upside. Like,

1784
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 3: I think a lot of teams look at these types

1785
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 3: of players and they see the upside and they ignore

1786
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 3: the downside because they're looking at.

1787
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 1: It through their lens.

1788
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,560
Speaker 3: And there's no doubt that downside with Justin Fields is

1789
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 3: staring you in the face with the protoct activity and

1790
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 3: the efficiency throwing the ball. But a lot of quarterbacks

1791
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 3: view him, or excuse me, a lot of coaches view

1792
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 3: him like a project, like, hey, if I can get

1793
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:11,800
Speaker 3: the most out of him, I can look smarter and

1794
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 3: look better than any other coach because they haven't got

1795
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 3: So I understand why there's a lot of teams that

1796
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 3: are probably singing his praises trying to recruit him, because

1797
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:20,559
Speaker 3: my guess.

1798
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: Is the Bears are going to try to move him.

1799
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 1: They have to.

1800
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,879
Speaker 3: They They're gonna ask mostly with the ultimate no brainer.

1801
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:29,800
Speaker 3: You think it's a bigger no brainer than the show,

1802
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 3: Hey move, which you were all over by.

1803
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, yes, he had to move him. Yeah, are

1804
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 2: you gonna get nothing for him?

1805
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: And they got it. They got absolutely zilch for the guy.

1806
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:44,479
Speaker 2: But yeah, like I look at Justin Fields and if

1807
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 2: you compare him to a guy like Lamar Jackson, who

1808
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 2: has elite running a billity.

1809
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah right, But you look at what Lamar has.

1810
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 2: Done throwing the ball some of these years, and his

1811
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 2: MVP season his second year, thirty six touchdown passes in

1812
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:02,719
Speaker 2: six interceptions, even this past season twenty four touchdown passes,

1813
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 2: seven interceptions. I don't know that Justin Fields is ever

1814
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 2: gonna get there. I guarantee he's not gonna get to

1815
01:28:08,920 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 2: thirty six and six.

1816
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 1: That's just not in him.

1817
01:28:12,400 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 2: And I don't want to make him out to be

1818
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 2: the worst quarterback in the league because he isn't. Yeah,

1819
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 2: but this idea that I know, he's got this great

1820
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 2: running ability, but you have got to make your living

1821
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 2: in the NFL throwing the football. I think you can

1822
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: put incredible stress on a defense with elite running ability,

1823
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 2: which Lamar and Justin Fields have done.

1824
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:35,759
Speaker 1: But look at Mahomes.

1825
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say elite running ability, but pretty good behind

1826
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 2: a lot of players with his legs. But he makes

1827
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 2: his living with his passing ability. And that's the way

1828
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 2: the rules are set up. Justin Fields and Lamar have

1829
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 2: been banged up quite a bit. It's not a mystery

1830
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 2: as to why, you know, Like, so that's where I

1831
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 2: look at it and say, yeah, you can upgrade Justin

1832
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,560
Speaker 2: Field's weapons. I think that would help. But I'm not

1833
01:28:59,640 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 2: expected this monstrous boom in terms of his production. I

1834
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 2: just don't see it.

1835
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 3: And to be fair again to Justin, like he didn't

1836
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 3: get that buffer that Mahomes got, got to sit behind

1837
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 3: Alex Smith, one of the best quarterbacks you know, brain wise,

1838
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 3: that we've seen in the last twenty years, and Andy Reid,

1839
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 3: who you know, but best offensive mine probably in the

1840
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:27,120
Speaker 3: last twenty years. Justin had to right away with Andy Dalton.

1841
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 3: That situation was a total disaster. I think it was

1842
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 3: his second or third game thrust into the starting role.

1843
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 4: So it just it.

1844
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:40,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to say it'll just all be sunshine

1845
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 3: and rainbows in whatever inevitable new location he goes to.

1846
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 3: But there is something to be said about a guy

1847
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 3: with his talent getting a second chance in a spot

1848
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:53,800
Speaker 3: that didn't draft you in the top fifteen or wherever

1849
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 3: he was drafted the first round. I forget the exact pick.

1850
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 3: That pressure's not there. I can go just kind of

1851
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 3: exist in a new situation and get a fresh start.

1852
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see if there are any because let's

1853
01:30:06,320 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 3: be honest, he's a very talented player. He just hasn't

1854
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 3: found the ways to put it together on the big

1855
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 3: stage yet. If he and he might, he never might

1856
01:30:14,280 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 3: like that might never happen. There are really talented players

1857
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:19,280
Speaker 3: in this league that go from team to team. They

1858
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 3: have situations and they just they never quite figure it out,

1859
01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 3: especially at the quarterback position. But if I was a

1860
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 3: team like a Raiders or a Steelers with a Kenny

1861
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 3: Pickett or an Aidan O'Connell as my starting quarterback, a

1862
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 3: statue that you know, the upside isn't really there anyways, Yeah,

1863
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 3: I would take a chance on Justin Fields and bring

1864
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:39,720
Speaker 3: him in and see what I've got, because I do

1865
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 3: think there's a chance that a team figures out how

1866
01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 3: to get through to him and get the offense set

1867
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 3: because the running ability in the athleticism is there. I

1868
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:49,400
Speaker 3: just don't know what that team is. I think it

1869
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 3: might be the Raiders. Right gets He Now he's you know,

1870
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 3: he's in that offense for two years. Now Getsy goes

1871
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:58,679
Speaker 3: to Vegas, they're gonna make a splash Pittsburgh. Maybe there's

1872
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:00,880
Speaker 3: a couple other teams that are quarterback needy, but he's

1873
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,120
Speaker 3: gonna end it. He's gonna get a shot somewhere because

1874
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:03,680
Speaker 3: of what he can do.

1875
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: With his legs. Yeah, could be.

1876
01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 2: I just think it's kind of weird that we just

1877
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 2: saw a former Bears quarterback go to the Steelers and

1878
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:16,439
Speaker 2: do nothing named Mitch Trubisky, right, who If you look

1879
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:19,920
Speaker 2: at Mitch at his fifty starts with the Bears twenty

1880
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 2: nine and twenty one, it's not only a quarterback stat

1881
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 2: I want to make that perfectly clear, but a lot

1882
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:29,479
Speaker 2: of it goes into that. And for Justin Fields to

1883
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 2: be ten and twenty eight, that's his record. Like Mitch,

1884
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 2: you look at him with the Bears, no one waxed

1885
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 2: poetic about him at all. His numbers are better, completion percentage,

1886
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:44,439
Speaker 2: better passer rating, better, yards per game, better, like all

1887
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 2: across the board, and no one's singing his praises that

1888
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,800
Speaker 2: he did nothing with the Steelers. I also look at

1889
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 2: it like this, if you look at Fields, once he

1890
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 2: gets paid, and he's not that far from getting paid. Yeah,

1891
01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 2: Like that's the other thing. He hasn't gotten it done

1892
01:31:59,479 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 2: while he's on his rookie deal. What do you think

1893
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 2: is gonna happen when he gets paid?

1894
01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 1: That's the tricky part.

1895
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 3: I think the contract situation with the quarterbacks is probably

1896
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 3: the most untalked about, talked about thing when it comes

1897
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 3: to these movements, Like Justin's a really cheap option right now.

1898
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:23,160
Speaker 3: So yeah, if I was a coach or a new

1899
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 3: coordinator at a new team, like Getsy again is like

1900
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 3: the prime example, because he's familiar with the offense. I'm

1901
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 3: stumping hard because I know it's a low risk move

1902
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 3: right now, but not everything. It won't be a low

1903
01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:37,800
Speaker 3: risk move next year. So we better get him in

1904
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:41,639
Speaker 3: now because if we do catch lightning in a bottle,

1905
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 3: maybe we get the hometown discount. Like this is the

1906
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 3: last year you're stumping for Justin Fields, as this by

1907
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 3: low project.

1908
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 1: Next year it ain't by low anymore.

1909
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 2: Man Daniel Jones, the Giants quarterback, he will count forty

1910
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 2: one point six million dollars toward the salary caps each

1911
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:05,040
Speaker 2: of the next three seasons. Now, the Giants can get

1912
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 2: out of the deal after this next season, and they might,

1913
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 2: but it's about forty two mil per year for Daniel Jones.

1914
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 2: And don't think for a second that Justin Fields is

1915
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 2: going to be dramatically lower than that, because for whatever reason,

1916
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:23,799
Speaker 2: people are just conditioned to look at, Hey, the upside,

1917
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:26,960
Speaker 2: the upside, the upside, the ceiling, the ceiling, and look

1918
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 2: at the floor. He's given you three seasons of the floor,

1919
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 2: and you're just hung up on the ceiling.

1920
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:31,679
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

1921
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 3: It's just it's you're looking at it from a price perspective.

1922
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,280
Speaker 3: Teams are looking at Justin Fields and they're saying, this

1923
01:33:39,479 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 3: is a guy that is probably still better than I

1924
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 3: would say, at least ten of the starting quarterbacks in

1925
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 3: the NFL. Maybe he's kind of in the middle of

1926
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 3: the pack because of that upside with the running ability,

1927
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 3: and you give him a little extra bonus for that.

1928
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:56,720
Speaker 3: But then you look at the price, right, and the

1929
01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 3: price is why teams are interested. But the Bears control

1930
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 3: that price, the Bear. And that's the thing about this.

1931
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:06,719
Speaker 3: Like we're talking about Justin Fields, like he's a free agent.

1932
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,800
Speaker 3: He is under contract with the Chicago Bears. They can

1933
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 3: choose to keep him if they want and draft one

1934
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 3: and just go with it. I think that's the direction

1935
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 3: that they're going to go. But I there's a lot

1936
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 3: of options here, and to act like we know what

1937
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 3: they're gonna do, we don't, And it's gonna be an

1938
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 3: interesting couple of months, that's for sure.

1939
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 2: They just they have to get the most they can

1940
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 2: for Justin Field, you would think, and take a quarterback

1941
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 2: with the number one overall pick like that. That's another

1942
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 2: part of this is they might get a second round

1943
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 2: pick for Justin Fields. Yeah, they won't get can you

1944
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,960
Speaker 2: can you imagine because he's a rental, getting Caleb Williams

1945
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:52,760
Speaker 2: for a second round pick, Like so think about that

1946
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 2: for a second.

1947
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: You might get a two for Justin Fields.

1948
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 3: Maybe the Bears are in such an interesting spot. They

1949
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 3: just so they have like seventy million in space. They

1950
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 3: have a ton of cap space. They just cut their

1951
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:09,280
Speaker 3: two starting safeties to clear up more cap space. And

1952
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:13,120
Speaker 3: they've got a new coordinator, Shane Waldron from the from

1953
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:18,360
Speaker 3: the Seahawks. So they kept the same coaching staff, but

1954
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 3: then the coordinator's new offensive coordinators new the GM is

1955
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:25,959
Speaker 3: Paul's has been you know, he's made some interesting signings.

1956
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:28,080
Speaker 3: I thought they did a good job getting the defense

1957
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 3: ready next year, you know, getting their defense ready last year,

1958
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 3: getting them up to speed Tour this year. There I

1959
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 3: take to play fantastic. Yeah, And that's the thing about it, Like,

1960
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 3: if you think about win Now for the Bears, they

1961
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 3: have a gajillion in cap space, their defense is legit,

1962
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 3: but they've got a new offensive coordinator in a bad

1963
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 3: quarterback situation. So if they end up thinking Fields as

1964
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:54,280
Speaker 3: the guy, and they say, you know what, we'll give

1965
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 3: Justin one more chance.

1966
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 1: Eba Flues is on his way out, We'll give Ebaflus.

1967
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 3: And Justin one more chance to do this thing, they

1968
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:04,760
Speaker 3: can go sign like the entire world god, So like,

1969
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 3: you have to look at it from that perspective, because

1970
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 3: I do think there is a there's an option see

1971
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 3: here where they keep Fields, they trade down, they draft

1972
01:36:13,840 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 3: like Marvin Harrison. They have DJ Moore Marvin Harrison, and

1973
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,320
Speaker 3: then they go sign like every player on free agency

1974
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 3: because they got am gajillion dollars. And you could make

1975
01:36:21,320 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 3: a case that that's a team that could contend for

1976
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:25,839
Speaker 3: the playoffs if Justin Fields plays to the top.

1977
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:26,639
Speaker 1: End of the spectrum.

1978
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 2: But I can't promise you that it's all pie in

1979
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 2: the sky.

1980
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 1: They're that dumb.

1981
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 5: You know.

1982
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:35,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate the theory, you know, I mean, that's that's

1983
01:36:35,439 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 2: the game theory, but that you know what throws a

1984
01:36:38,439 --> 01:36:40,919
Speaker 2: wrench into that a little bit to the Bears benefit

1985
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:44,560
Speaker 2: in my opinion, is CJ Stroud last year. Yeah, you know,

1986
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 2: like you could run it back with Justin Fields and

1987
01:36:47,479 --> 01:36:50,479
Speaker 2: get them all these toys around him, you know, and

1988
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,680
Speaker 2: still not be that good. That could be a possibility.

1989
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 2: Or you could go with a top of the line prospect,

1990
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:59,919
Speaker 2: see how it turns out. But Caleb Williams could be special.

1991
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:02,800
Speaker 2: He has the potential to be special, and you're gonna

1992
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:06,800
Speaker 2: pass on special again to just give Justin Fields a

1993
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 2: bunch of toys that he might be able to get

1994
01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 2: you to the playoffs with.

1995
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:14,680
Speaker 3: They didn't draft Bryce Young last year. Imagine if they

1996
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 3: kept that one pick and drafted Bryce Young.

1997
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:17,600
Speaker 1: At least they didn't do that.

1998
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:22,000
Speaker 2: They Bryce Young and just flock though.

1999
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 1: That would have been good, that's true. They would have

2000
01:37:24,200 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 1: reset the clock.

2001
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's Jared Smith, FSR betting analyst. I'm Brian No

2002
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:35,040
Speaker 2: coming up next. Wow, this was quite the costly mistake.

2003
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 2: We will dive into this story around the corner. It

2004
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

2005
01:37:41,080 --> 01:37:44,120
Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio.

2006
01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 2: We're live from the tire Rack dot Com studios. I'm

2007
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 2: Brian Know. He's Jared Smith hanging out with you today. So,

2008
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo, this is not a good what passed forty

2009
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 2: eight hours for Jimmy G. So he's been suspended for

2010
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:04,919
Speaker 2: two games. Jared he he was taking some prescribed medication

2011
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 2: but did not get clearance from the NFL. So this

2012
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 2: turns out to basically be a PED viola shown.

2013
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 1: So he's suspended for two games. He's not gonna appeal it.

2014
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 2: And the kicker is this he also has an eleven

2015
01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 2: point two five million dollar base salary guarantee for the

2016
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four season that now could be voided because

2017
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:35,640
Speaker 2: of the suspension. Because he violated the PED policy, that

2018
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 2: base salary guarantee is not guaranteed anymore, and so the

2019
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 2: Raiders are expected to release Jimmy G and he would

2020
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:49,280
Speaker 2: be out eleven point two million dollars that was previously guaranteed.

2021
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:51,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, not ideal.

2022
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 3: No, I think they were cutting him anyways, because I

2023
01:38:56,439 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 3: think that contract if they cut him before the I

2024
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 3: think what I read was the bonus was doing March

2025
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 3: like March is when the league kind of resets the year,

2026
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:10,000
Speaker 3: and the bonus was due once the league kind of reset,

2027
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't think he would have made it

2028
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 3: to that point, but.

2029
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 1: Now definitely not.

2030
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:19,519
Speaker 3: And it really makes the Raiders, like the Jimmy g stuff,

2031
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna beat a dead horse, like he had

2032
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:23,599
Speaker 3: a rough year. He was leading the league and picks

2033
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:25,320
Speaker 3: until he got benched and then you know, we never

2034
01:39:25,360 --> 01:39:28,720
Speaker 3: really heard from him again, and it's kind of been

2035
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:31,080
Speaker 3: a downward spiral since the New England stuff ended.

2036
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 1: But it makes the Raiders a little bit more of

2037
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 1: an intriguing offseason team, Like they know they're in a

2038
01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 1: division with Andy Reid and Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert

2039
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes and.

2040
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:45,800
Speaker 3: You want to throw Peyton and Wilson in the mix too.

2041
01:39:46,720 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 3: They have a new head coach, right, they have a

2042
01:39:48,479 --> 01:39:51,720
Speaker 3: new oc coming from Chicago. They are going to make

2043
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 3: a splash like they're not going into the season, which

2044
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:56,720
Speaker 3: is O'Connell on the roster at quarterback, Like they're going

2045
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 3: to either trade up. I think they're drafting eleventh, so

2046
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 3: somewhere in that three thirteenth. Yeah, somewhere in that range yet,

2047
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:03,840
Speaker 3: So they're either going to move up and get one

2048
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 3: of the big quarterbacks or try to get one of

2049
01:40:06,920 --> 01:40:10,240
Speaker 3: the middle tier guys at that spot, or go out

2050
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 3: and sign somebody, maybe go trade.

2051
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 1: For Justin Fields.

2052
01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:16,720
Speaker 3: Like, I think this move is kind of like the

2053
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 3: rubber stamp on a very interesting off season about to

2054
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 3: take place here in Las Vegas.

2055
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 2: Well, I hear you on all of that, and I'm

2056
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 2: wondering if they go crazy where you think about Jaden Daniels. Oh, yeah,

2057
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 2: who was the LSU quarterback? He was at Arizona State

2058
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 2: when Antonio Pierce was there. Also interesting, right, so you

2059
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,759
Speaker 2: like those connections, you connect those two, do the Raiders

2060
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 2: get crazy aggressive? Could be and move up ten maybe

2061
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 2: eleven spots, Yeah, to get in rage to get Daniels.

2062
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,920
Speaker 3: That's a you think Daniel's going two. I saw some

2063
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 3: mock drafts this week that at Daniels at two. I

2064
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 3: don't know if I fully buy it, but I could

2065
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 3: see it.

2066
01:40:57,160 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't buy it.

2067
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 2: I have a hard time seeing Washington saying we'll go

2068
01:41:02,120 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 2: Jade and Daniels over Drake May. Yeah, if those are

2069
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 2: the two quarterbacks on the board at that time, I mean,

2070
01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:08,759
Speaker 2: crazier things have happened.

2071
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:09,760
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

2072
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,040
Speaker 3: What about JJ McCarty If you want to believe, you

2073
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 3: know that Jim Harbaugh with his predictions, maybe he's the

2074
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 3: next guy off the board after I mean, Caleb's going

2075
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 3: to be the first quarterback taken. I don't know if

2076
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 3: he is going to go to Chicago, but he will

2077
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:24,280
Speaker 3: be the first pick somewhere, and then.

2078
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 2: After that kind of where are your top three?

2079
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 1: I think Caleb is one.

2080
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 3: I think you can make the case for Daniels as

2081
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 3: a dual threat better than Drake May because of his

2082
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 3: throwing ability. Like I think Jane Daniels has done more

2083
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:46,560
Speaker 3: in college to warrant the nod over Drake May. But

2084
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 3: if I was a GM and I watched what just

2085
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 3: took place in Carolina with a slightly undersized quarterback, and

2086
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 3: I would say bright Song is more undersized than Jayden

2087
01:41:57,439 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 3: and Daniels, But Daniel's a little bit more undersized than

2088
01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:04,280
Speaker 3: the other guys. That could be a recency bias. Hey,

2089
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 3: I don't want to make that same mistake.

2090
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 1: Now.

2091
01:42:06,920 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 3: I know you're not drafting Daniels one where you drafted

2092
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 3: Bryce one, so that changes the math a little bit.

2093
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:14,840
Speaker 3: But I think I give Drake May this slight edge

2094
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 3: just because of the physical tools. But I'll be honest,

2095
01:42:18,120 --> 01:42:20,920
Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels more success in college, So I think that

2096
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:23,799
Speaker 3: matters a little bit. It's a tough call between Daniels

2097
01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:25,560
Speaker 3: in May for two and three, but let's leave it

2098
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 3: at this. McCarthy's four on.

2099
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 2: That list, right right, Yeah, I would not have him

2100
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 2: in the top three.

2101
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 3: No.

2102
01:42:31,880 --> 01:42:34,960
Speaker 2: I like Drake May a lot. The guy is an

2103
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 2: incredibly accurate passer, and that's the thing. He doesn't have

2104
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 2: Jade and Daniels explosive running ability.

2105
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 1: No, but he's bigger, he's stronger.

2106
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's bigger, stronger, he's sturdier.

2107
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2108
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 2: And he is a good rushing quarterback as well. So

2109
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:52,560
Speaker 2: if you need that to mention, he provides it. Not

2110
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:56,960
Speaker 2: to a Daniels level, but he might provide more stability

2111
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:58,760
Speaker 2: in terms of staying up right.

2112
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 1: There's an argument there. They're both tall. Daniels is not

2113
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,360
Speaker 1: is a little more wiry. Drake May is a little bulkier.

2114
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 3: If they're both six to four, they're both pretty big,

2115
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:11,879
Speaker 3: like they both fit the size profile. But Daniels definitely

2116
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 3: is more susceptible to the big hits because I think

2117
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 3: of his style, and I'll be honest, I think now

2118
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:21,320
Speaker 3: that I'm kind of talking it out with you, I

2119
01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 3: think I'll give Daniels the slight nod just because of

2120
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 3: the college success. I think in what I've seen recently

2121
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:30,879
Speaker 3: in the NFL, experience matters, and I think Jade Daniels

2122
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 3: has a little bit more big game experience than Drake

2123
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 3: May just a little bit.

2124
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 1: Not much.

2125
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,519
Speaker 3: It is a tight margin, but I think I just

2126
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,320
Speaker 3: slightly give the edge to Daniels because of the tape

2127
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:42,760
Speaker 3: and the Heisman and what he was able to do

2128
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 3: this year.

2129
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 2: I go differently than you because I don't put as

2130
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:51,120
Speaker 2: much stock into college production. That's fair, It's just a

2131
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:54,639
Speaker 2: different level to me. It's more about tools than college production.

2132
01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 2: You could be Timmy Chang at Hawaii.

2133
01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:57,640
Speaker 6: Light it up.

2134
01:43:57,680 --> 01:43:58,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

2135
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:01,200
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean it's going to translate. McCoy was the winningest

2136
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 2: quarterback in college football history at the time at Texas,

2137
01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:08,160
Speaker 2: and that's not going to automatically translate. So I get

2138
01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 2: more into the what tools do you have, what potential

2139
01:44:13,240 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 2: do you have? And mixed with of course what have

2140
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:18,519
Speaker 2: you done? Production does matter to some point. I'm not

2141
01:44:18,600 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 2: saying it doesn't, but I don't rate it as highly.

2142
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,679
Speaker 2: If this is like you're Madden rating and you're looking

2143
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 2: at all these different categories, I wouldn't have college production

2144
01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 2: as high as some others.

2145
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:34,080
Speaker 3: What about experience though, because right, you know, or Drake

2146
01:44:34,160 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 3: has one fewer year of starts.

2147
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 1: I think that matters.

2148
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 2: But if this was, say, like an Anthony Richardson thing

2149
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:44,439
Speaker 2: from the Trubisky thing where they're starting one year, that

2150
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:47,000
Speaker 2: matters a whole lot more to me than Hey, did

2151
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:50,759
Speaker 2: you start twenty six games versus thirty five games?

2152
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

2153
01:44:51,439 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, the experience helps, but when you've got a

2154
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 2: couple of seasons under your belt, I think that matters

2155
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:00,479
Speaker 2: a lot. One last thing that makes me think with

2156
01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:05,280
Speaker 2: Jimmy G and how quickly things have changed. I mean,

2157
01:45:05,360 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 2: I'm not expecting it to go as south for Brock

2158
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:10,560
Speaker 2: Purdy if something were to happen, But don't you have

2159
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Speaker 2: to keep that in mind. We are not that long

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Speaker 2: ago from hearing people saying Jimmy G is a winner,

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01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 2: the guy just wins it. You had people foaming at

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01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:23,560
Speaker 2: the mouth defending Jimmy G. And then he goes to

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Speaker 2: the Raiders and all of a sudden, you blink and

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01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:29,360
Speaker 2: it's like, oh gosh, more interceptions than touchdowns. His passer

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Speaker 2: rating is around seventy seven. He's benched for Aidan O'Connell. Like,

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Speaker 2: you go from the who's who's supporting cast of the

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01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:41,080
Speaker 2: Niners to something else, and the individual numbers can look.

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Speaker 1: A lot different. I'm just saying, keep it in mind.

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Speaker 1: That's the big difference. You go from the Niners to

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Speaker 1: the Raiders. Your warts. Like sometimes when I do TV,

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Speaker 1: I put some makeup on my forehead because it gets

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01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:56,679
Speaker 1: a little shiny sometimes under the lights. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you go from the Niners to the Raiders,

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Speaker 3: there's no makeup, there's no touch ups.

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Speaker 1: It's the warts are all there there, it is. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: real fast.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to I Low, I thought John Middlkoff,

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Speaker 2: he's a former NFL scout. He does a podcast with

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Speaker 2: Colin Cowherd. I thought leading up to the Super Bowl,

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01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 2: he made a great point about the Niners offense. Now

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Speaker 2: listen to what he's saying and consider it in terms

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Speaker 2: of what we were talking about with Jimmy g no

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Speaker 2: longer with the Niners, and also how it benefits brock

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Speaker 2: Purty right here right.

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Speaker 6: Now, they run the ball to do two things.

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Speaker 9: Establish just a physical you know, set the tone physically

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01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 9: and prove that we're tougher than you and then their

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01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:39,559
Speaker 9: entire passing game is off that all the play action

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01:46:39,680 --> 01:46:42,599
Speaker 9: stuff that leads to a lot of easy completions. It's

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Speaker 9: why when they're successful running the ball with McCaffrey, their

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01:46:45,479 --> 01:46:47,760
Speaker 9: offense can look pretty easy because guys get wide open

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Speaker 9: because you're biting on the run. And then guys they

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Speaker 9: have so much talent with their offensive weapons. When you

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Speaker 9: can slow down the run, it throws them off a

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Speaker 9: little bit, right.

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Speaker 2: Jared, So think about that. What is Jimmy g when

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01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 2: he doesn't have that Well, we kind of saw it

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Speaker 2: last year.

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Speaker 3: Very average, like the like the definition of average, like

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01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:08,679
Speaker 3: as Mikile Steve Zick would say, the eight of clubs,

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Speaker 3: the middle.

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Speaker 1: Card in the deck.

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Speaker 2: So what is brock Purdy if he doesn't have an

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01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 2: MVP candidate and Christian McCaffrey back there and play action passing.

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01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,919
Speaker 2: It's a big part of what they do that hinges

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Speaker 2: on the running game. What is brock Purdy if aiden clubs?

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01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:30,360
Speaker 2: He's yeah, and like we've talked about this before. You

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01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 2: take and I think it was Rich that framed it perfectly.

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Speaker 2: You take Patrick Mahomes, you put him on the Niners

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01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 2: and he's the champ. You take brock Purdy and put

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01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:41,040
Speaker 2: him on the Chiefs and the Chiefs are barely making

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Speaker 2: the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Like it just that is just unfortunately his reality.

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Speaker 3: Like I get it. Like I'm an unathletic guy too.

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01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 3: Things come hard for me in that area. You have

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01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:54,960
Speaker 3: to work extra hart and Brock's more athletic than me.

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Speaker 3: Let's just make that perfectly clear. But in terms of

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01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:00,720
Speaker 3: the NFL landscape, he's not on the higher end of

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Speaker 3: the athletic spectrum.

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Speaker 1: He has to be perfect.

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Speaker 3: He needs everything to be executed perfectly around him in

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Speaker 3: order for him. Now, he made a couple plays at

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Speaker 3: the end of those Lions Packers games that maybe gave

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01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 3: you some glimmers, but then he faced the top ten

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01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:20,600
Speaker 3: Chiefs defense and it's just those opportunities weren't there, And

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Speaker 3: I just it's tough.

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Speaker 1: He needs that perfect precision offense in order to really

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Speaker 1: be successful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, hey, we have the perfect precision offense because

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01:48:32,439 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 2: we are spruced up for sure by one Isaac loewen Krump.

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01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:39,759
Speaker 2: You know what would we be without the running attack

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01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 2: of Isaac loewen Krum Clubs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I Loo helps us out. He's going to

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Speaker 1: help us out more here. What's going on?

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Speaker 6: I low, we got a lot going on.

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Speaker 7: A wide ranging tour of what's going on in sports

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01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 7: commences with some sad news from the world of college basketball.

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Speaker 7: Basketball Hall of Famer and former longtime Maryland head coach

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01:49:01,600 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 7: Lefty Drizzel passed away today at the age of ninety two.

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Speaker 7: Drizzel won seven hundred and eighty six games during a

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Speaker 7: forty year head coaching career that included twenty one twenty

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01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 7: win seasons. Drizzell was inducted into the Basketball Hall of

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Speaker 7: Fame in twenty eighteen. The fourteen finalists for the Basketball

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01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,839
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty four were revealed

2245
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:26,360
Speaker 7: on Friday at NBA All Star Weekend, headlined by Vince

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01:49:26,439 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 7: Carter and Shauncey Billups. The inductees will be announced at

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01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 7: the Final four in April. In golf, tiger Woods withdrew

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01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:36,480
Speaker 7: from the second round of the Genesis Invitational at Riviera

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01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 7: on Friday due to illness. Patrick Cantley as a five

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Speaker 7: shot lead at thirteen under par overall. Jordan Speeth was

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Speaker 7: disqualified from the tournament for signing an incorrect scorecard on Friday,

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Speaker 7: and in response to this news, a parody Twitter account

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01:49:55,439 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 7: with the handle shooter McGavin commented, and I quote happy

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01:50:02,240 --> 01:50:07,680
Speaker 7: Gilmour assaulted multiple rules officials and nearly killed a cameraman

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Speaker 7: with a flag stick and was not decued. Jordan Speith

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Speaker 7: turned in an incorrect scorecard and was told to get the.

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Speaker 6: Hell out of there. Make it make sense unquote.

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Speaker 7: Finally, how about this? In college baseball? In a doubleheader

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01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:32,799
Speaker 7: yesterday against Loyola Marymount, Sacramento State's Matt massi Angelo appeared

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Speaker 7: at the plate eight times.

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Speaker 6: He was hit by a pitch seven times.

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Speaker 7: Wo hit by a pitch seven times in eight plate

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Speaker 7: appearances during a doubleheader in a single day.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, guys, I'm charging after the fifth time,

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Speaker 1: I was the third time, the second time. It makes

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Speaker 1: seven times five is my magic number. Right now?

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Speaker 2: He gave me five times, plunk Bino four times.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, no issue.

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Speaker 2: Shortly after the show, our podcast is going up. If

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Speaker 2: you miss anything on today's show, be sure to check

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Speaker 2: we get off the air.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that's funny. You know we've got a tweet

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01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:24,920
Speaker 1: here or a post on X that's more confusing, don't

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01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:25,200
Speaker 1: you think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I still call it. I call it twitter twitter, right,

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01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:31,599
Speaker 3: I refuse to bend to the Elon Musk overlord.

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01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:32,479
Speaker 1: It's Twitter forever.

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01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:36,519
Speaker 2: I So Tom checked in. We were talking about Justin Fields.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's a difference maker. I don't think

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01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:41,240
Speaker 2: if he went to the Steelers they'd be a super

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01:51:41,280 --> 01:51:41,760
Speaker 2: Bowl team.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's my take. I agree with that they'd

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01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:46,479
Speaker 1: be the same team they were last year.

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01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 2: Tom writes in says, yes, the second best rushing quarterback

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01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 2: in the history of the NFL should be out of

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Speaker 2: the league. One out of the league. I don't know

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Speaker 2: who the most sensitive fan base is. I put Party

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01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 2: fans at the top food chain, and then shortly but

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01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:06,240
Speaker 2: beneath that, the Lamar fans are still very sensitive Lamar,

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01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:09,840
Speaker 2: the Fields fans are highly sensitive. Right?

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01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:11,599
Speaker 1: Is that the hierarchy?

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01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 3: Is there anybody holding onto you like like like what

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Speaker 3: like I understand for Brock like he's been in the

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01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:18,880
Speaker 3: NFC Championship game, in the Super Bowl in his first

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01:52:18,920 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 3: two years in his career, like, I understand why people

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01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 3: are mad if you talk badly about that.

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Speaker 1: What has Justin Field's done to warrant that kind of backing?

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Speaker 1: That's the question. Yeah, he's ten twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: Eight man, and I see upside like it's our job

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01:52:37,320 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 3: as betters to see by low diamonds in the rough.

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01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 3: Like that's literally what I search for every day. And

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01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 3: I vibe that with Justin Fields. Because his price is

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01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 3: like six million dollars next year. That is a bargain

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Speaker 3: for a quarterback with any talent, but Super Bowl contender,

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01:52:56,400 --> 01:52:57,200
Speaker 3: that is a stretch.

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, hey real fast. I want to be

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01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 2: positive here. Yeah, let's be positive. I threw this out there.

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Speaker 2: There are four teams with the new GM. I guess

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01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:07,760
Speaker 2: you could count the Patriots as the fifth. They have

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01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 2: the Facto GM and Ellie reassigned. Yeah, So of these teams,

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01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:15,160
Speaker 2: who do you think is gonna make the biggest turnaround

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01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 2: in year one? So you've got we'll throw the Patriots

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01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:23,040
Speaker 2: in there. Also in the AFC, the Raiders and the Chargers. Okay,

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01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:25,760
Speaker 2: these all have new GMS, And also in the NFC

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01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:28,880
Speaker 2: the Panthers and the Commanders. Who's your team to make

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01:53:28,920 --> 01:53:29,719
Speaker 2: a big turnaround.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think based off what we're talking about earlier,

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01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:35,439
Speaker 3: it's going to be hard to make a turnaround in

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Speaker 3: the AFC West, Like it just you have to face

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01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:41,640
Speaker 3: Mahomes twice, you have to face the Broncos, you have

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Speaker 3: to go to Denver. You know, the Chargers and the

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01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 3: Raiders have an uphill battle in that division, in that conference.

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01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:52,280
Speaker 3: So I think those two variables makes it harder to

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Speaker 3: pick them. And I keep going back to Washington. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I keep going back to Washington because they got all

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Speaker 3: the ass. They've got a like the new GM of

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01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:06,080
Speaker 3: you know, Peters from what we hear reputationally speaking, is

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01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 3: like Elked at player personnel development and choosing.

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Speaker 1: They've got a lot of assets.

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Speaker 3: You think dan Quinn, like of all the coaches that

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01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 3: got brought in, I think dan Quinn might be like

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01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 3: the steadiest of the hands. Right, he's been a head

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01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:24,000
Speaker 3: coach in the NFL before, he's had success before, he

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01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:26,760
Speaker 3: understands how to win, he understands defense. And then you

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01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:28,960
Speaker 3: bring in Kingsbury is kind of this like up you know,

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Speaker 3: high upside offensive guy, and if you make the right

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Speaker 3: pick at quarterback, you're in a division with some chance

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Speaker 3: like I think the Commanders might have.

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Speaker 1: A chance to really put together a interesting season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, man.

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Speaker 2: That was of the eight job openings, that was my

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Speaker 2: top one. Yeah, it's Washington and I just look, they

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01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:51,240
Speaker 2: have the most cap space. They've got six picks in

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01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 2: the top one hundred. You can make a big turnaround.

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01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:57,000
Speaker 2: And I don't want to make this as simple as Hey,

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01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:59,200
Speaker 2: the Texans, they had the number two overall pick, just

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01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:01,800
Speaker 2: get the next seage Stroud. You're good, but you've got

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Speaker 2: a legitimate chance. If Drake May is your guy at

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01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:08,600
Speaker 2: number two, you've got a legitimate chance to make major

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01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 2: headway in year one.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think what about Kingsbury.

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Speaker 3: If they figure out a way, maybe they trade they

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01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:16,560
Speaker 3: have all these assets, trade up and get Caleb Williams.

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01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:20,040
Speaker 2: Like that would be pretty interesting, right? How about this?

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01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:24,920
Speaker 2: So the Washington gets Caleb with the Cliff Kingsbury thing. Yeah,

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01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:27,160
Speaker 2: and then the Bears what they slide down to number

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Speaker 2: two and get another North Carolina quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Oh, narrative Street is buzzing.

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01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:37,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you're either gonna have two North Carolina quarterbacks

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01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:40,560
Speaker 2: like Sam Howell and Drake May, you know, at least

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01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:42,480
Speaker 2: one after another I don't know if Sam would still

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01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:45,320
Speaker 2: be there or you're gonna have the Bears with the

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Speaker 2: Mitch Trubisky Drake May North Carolina thing.

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Speaker 3: How I'll say, you unc you know, got some decent,

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01:55:51,640 --> 01:55:54,080
Speaker 3: decent quarterbacks over the last decade or so, right, I mean,

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Speaker 3: I know the NFL success maybe hasn't been there, but

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Speaker 3: you get two guys drafted in the top five and

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Speaker 3: the last, oh, now wasn't top five, but he was

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Speaker 3: you know, it was your first round, second round somewhere.

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Speaker 1: In the league. I think it was like fifth. Wow,

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Speaker 1: he was down there. All right. So still you get

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Speaker 1: two starting quarterbacks in the last ten years.

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Speaker 2: Okay, number two probably both number two overall picks with Mitch. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's definitely in the top five for one North carolinta quarterback,

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Speaker 2: also a number two overall pick.

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Speaker 1: You think of the three.

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Speaker 3: Quarterbacks we've been talking about, which one he has? I guess,

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Speaker 3: Caleb you throw out. But between Drake and jayde and Daniels,

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Speaker 3: one of them is gonna drop. I just don't know

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Speaker 3: which one.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you're right about

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Speaker 1: you think it's one two three quarterback? Very well could be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just a prem I think.

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Speaker 3: Mark, I think someone's gonna look at Marvin Harrison and

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Speaker 3: say he might be the best player in that drafted.

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Speaker 1: To go get him. You might be right? All right?

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, we got some picks to make. Huh,

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Speaker 2: rapid fire around the corner. Jared Smith, FSR, betting analyst.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian No. Keep it locked right here. It's Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday on Fox Sports Radio. It is Fox Sports Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Here on Fox Sports Radio. We're live from the Tirereck

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Speaker 2: dot Com Studios. Props to the crew. Our producer Shay

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Speaker 2: Technical producer Chris Purfett updates Isaac Lohan Cron crushing life

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Speaker 2: as well. Great job by all Top of the hour.

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Speaker 2: Up on game, Levari Arrington, TJ. Huschman, Zada, Plexico, Burus.

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Speaker 2: They got you covered. Are we got picks to make?

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Speaker 2: Let's dive into this.

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Speaker 4: Rapid fire?

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Speaker 1: All right, Jared, We'll start with you, man, what are

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Speaker 1: you thinking this weekend?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: I don't do this often, but I got some information

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Speaker 3: about the NBA All Star Game tomorrow. Not the Star

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01:57:36,560 --> 01:57:40,480
Speaker 3: Saturday Night stuff, but tomorrow's game. That a whopper of

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Speaker 3: a wager. One of the biggest wagers I've ever seen

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Speaker 3: in an All Star Game. Got through on the under

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01:57:45,760 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 3: and it was like at a weird number. So we're

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Speaker 3: starting to see this number come down a little bit.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not advocating betting unders in All Star games

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Speaker 3: very often, but it was a two hundred thousand dollars

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01:57:56,040 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 3: bet on under in the NBA All Star Game.

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Speaker 1: Keep an eye on the total in the All Star Game.

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01:58:01,320 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 3: Over the next twenty four hours the limits expand at

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01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:06,200
Speaker 3: these sportsbooks, we will start to see some bets come in.

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01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:08,280
Speaker 3: I think the total is gonna keep coming down based

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Speaker 3: off of this action. So I did put it under

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01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:13,720
Speaker 3: in at three sixty three and a half. There's some

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Speaker 3: other numbers available out there, but we use bet MGM.

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Speaker 3: So I did bet the under in the All Star Game. Again,

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Speaker 3: not exactly a handicap I can analyze, because you know

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Speaker 3: the over is always the bet in the All Star Game.

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Speaker 1: But when you see a wager that big Brian, you

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Speaker 1: start to pay attention.

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Speaker 2: I hear you on that man and no elam ending

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Speaker 2: this year. Yeah, it was such an embarrassment. Last year

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Speaker 2: it was I'm not expecting playoff, lockdown defense.

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Speaker 6: It's a little bit more a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: Yeep, that's probably why.

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Speaker 6: That probably is.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna look at I'm gonna give you a couple

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Speaker 2: of first half lines here cheer, all right. So I'm

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Speaker 2: over on Texas A and M. They're at Alabama. I

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Speaker 2: don't love Alabama's defense. I'm going over thirty five and

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Speaker 2: a half for the Aggies in the first half.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna look, I'm gonna stay in the sec.

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Speaker 2: LSU at South Carolina, I'm going under thirty two and

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Speaker 2: a half for LSU. South Carolina's defense pretty good. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go for a team total for the entire game.

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Speaker 2: Give me Marquette at Yukon. I say Marquette doesn't break seventy. Okay,

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Speaker 2: under seventy and a half. I guess they could break seventy,

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Speaker 2: just as long as it's not any more than that. Yeah,

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01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:29,520
Speaker 2: But to keep it simple, I say they don't break seventy.

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Speaker 2: Give me under seventy and a half of their team

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Speaker 2: total against Yukon.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm right. How about we go to my

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Speaker 1: favorite team in history. We're definitely laying thirteen with Colgate

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01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:45,160
Speaker 1: today against Bucknell. They just beat him by ten eleven

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01:59:45,240 --> 01:59:48,320
Speaker 1: points on the Road a couple weeks ago. Now they

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Speaker 1: play at home.

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Speaker 3: And listen, guys, I know it sounds and girls, I

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01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 3: know it sounds like I'm just picking the same team

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Speaker 3: every week.

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Speaker 1: But the market is wrong on these mid major teams at.

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Speaker 3: And they just kind of pop the number up based

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Speaker 3: off of the rating, and they don't use a whole

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Speaker 3: lot of context with what these teams are. Colegate has

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Speaker 3: won ten straight and they're one of the hottest teams

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Speaker 3: in college basketball, and they just own the Patriot League

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Speaker 3: and Buckdal's bad. The numbers wrong, like the number should

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Speaker 3: be probably fifteen or sixteen. So I late thirteen with

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Speaker 3: Colgate today. It's probably.

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Speaker 1: Not the sexiest pick in the world. Again, when we

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Speaker 1: bet in the same team, but.

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Speaker 2: Lay it with Colgate, Man, if it hits nothing wrong

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Speaker 2: with that, It's like football, if the running play is successful,

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Speaker 2: to keep going back to the well, baby, do it?

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Speaker 2: Keep stacking chips