WEBVTT - JONI TABLE TALK | AUGUST 8th, 2026 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:26.840 So are you feeling run down and exhausted? Maybe you 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:31.040 feel stuck in an endless cycle overwork drained. Well, according 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:33.800 to today's guest, you can break the cycle through one 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:37.720 key biblical principle, and he's here to tell us about that. 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:39.880 So you want to say tuned, be first joining me 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:42.680 around the table. My dear friend, Cindy Johnston, how are 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:43.080 you doing? 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:44.760 Hey, I'm doing well. 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:48.040 Sometimes everybody's trying to tell us to rest, right right, Yeah, 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.159 And I think God rested after he made all of creation, 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.720 and if he wanted to rest, I think that is 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:57.600 a great indicator we need to rest. 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:00.400 That's right, Annie Kendall. You for that. I am for that. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:03.360 I believe that RESK is invigorating. 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:03.720 Yeah. 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:06.360 Told me you met some people somewhere that watch you 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:07.080 on table talk. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:10.000 Yes, yes, and they this lady said. 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:11.040 Where was this hat? 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.120 It was at a luncheon where I was speaking, And 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:15.840 this lady said, I love table talk and I love 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:16.800 all of the wisdom. 0:01:16.959 --> 0:01:19.840 So yeah, yeah, I think she said I love you 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:23.039 being on there because you bring wisdom. Yes, yes, she's 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:24.240 not going to say that about herself. 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:28.240 She didn't say elderly, but that's right. 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:29.320 Rachel m. 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:29.640 Brown. 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:31.800 Welcome to the table. We like having a little wisdom 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:32.240 at the table. 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:33.679 We doo yeah too, And. 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.920 I'm excited about our guest today. This is a topic 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:39.560 that I had to learn early on as a graduate. 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.720 You really not doing this, by the way, I have 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:43.760 to tell everybody. 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:45.760 It's a part of my testimony with the Lord. He 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:47.800 told me, Rachel, I came to give you life and 0:01:47.840 --> 0:01:50.400 life more abundantly. And nowhere in that does it say 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:55.000 anything about being tired, exhausted, worn out, overworked. And he said, 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.400 if you do less, I can do more in your life. 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.040 And I said, sign over that. 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:01.000 If you do I can do more. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:05.680 Yeah, I feel like you you really understand rest. 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.760 Oh, absolutely absolutely. 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.960 You know I work hard, you do have when it's 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:11.680 time the rest. 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:13.000 Yeah, I believe in it. 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:16.640 It's having my job keep you busy, but when it 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.000 when it's done, you take time to rest. 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:19.440 I do. 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.800 I do, And you know some of it is pleasure, 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.760 like I love watching Korean TV and. 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.320 That's my favor. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:34.120 Found this out and out, Dorothy, all right, we're finding 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:35.520 out things we never are. 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:36.919 You know. 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.480 I'm I'm in that season of rest where I'm as 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.040 busy as I need to be. It's a new season 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.480 of what God has for David and I. And I 0:02:46.560 --> 0:02:49.440 was thinking as we were all the mountains of North Carolina, folks. 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.280 Yeah, she tells me. She wears her. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:55.200 Sweatpants, know her leggings, in her sweat shirts, look out 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.040 into the smoky mountains and see the awesomeness of God 0:02:58.080 --> 0:02:59.519 and all the animals. 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:02.600 That you still come back for. I come back. I 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:04.040 still get to stay connected. 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:09.480 But when we think we're smarter than God, God himself rested, 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:12.919 we're really in trouble truth when we I love what 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:14.360 you said, Rachel. 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.040 You know if we do less, God can do more. 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.440 However, you said that, and I'm in that beautiful season 0:03:20.440 --> 0:03:21.679 in my life and i love it. 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:24.200 Yeah, I love it. But yeah, I mean. 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:28.920 You're resting, but you're still still being production. I see 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:30.000 God doing it in. 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.480 A whole different area my life, and I'm all right. Well. 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.720 He is the senior pastor of Faith Christians Center and 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:38.120 Able to Georgia, and he's here to talk about his 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:42.800 new book, Rhythm of Rest. Please welcome Kerrick Butler. Come 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.280 on in, kerk All right. 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:48.880 Hello everyone here. 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:50.840 Yeah, I get to hear you. 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:52.760 You any take on the ladies at the table. Let's 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.800 go Okay, I love that. 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:55.560 I love it. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.520 So how do we escape this narra burnout? And is 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:04.080 it pop possible to embrace the lifestyle of supernatural renewal? Well, 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.760 it starts by embracing a key biblical principle that will 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:13.480 end your striving and transform your life. Ker you pastor there, Yes, 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:18.160 in Georgia, a great church. Married, Yes, five kids, yes, 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:19.279 four girls and a boy. 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:19.640 Yes. 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.520 To know, how can you have five kids and write this? 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:25.240 Because I'm string to figure it out? 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:26.640 Good questions. 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:29.120 So when I was writing the book, I had to 0:04:29.320 --> 0:04:31.120 be dedicated to not violate the principles of. 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.160 The book to write the books. 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:34.920 To stay I was like, no, no, no, you're teaching 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:36.880 on the rest. You need to lift this thing as 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:40.640 you write it. And so I've learned to take advantage. 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.400 Of these moments, these opportunities to rest. 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:43.960 I remember one time I was taking my oldest a 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:46.080 volleyball practice and it was just the drive back and 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.000 forth didn't make sense. And so it was years ago 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:49.080 I wrote another book while I was. 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:50.280 Waiting for a volleyball practice. 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.400 I find these moments and I take advantage of these opportunities. 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:54.760 A lot of times people say, we don't have time 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.400 to rest because I got this, I got this, we 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:57.920 got this five minutes. What are you doing with it 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:00.479 these third minutes? You doom scrolling on your phone? Or 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:02.080 are you actually gonna do something that you enjoy? 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.560 You got to put down that phone. Yes, that's one 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.400 of the big things. Well, you know, I love what 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:11.320 you said that resting isn't just going to take a 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.560 nap or sitting in a chair, enjoying the beauty of 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.720 the mountains, you know, or sitting on. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.080 The swing or whatever. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:22.040 Resting can be walking down the beach, right absolutely, yes, 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:26.160 going on a hike, yes, and just looking at God's creation, 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:27.919 or just going for a walk around the block. 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:31.320 Right, Yeah, that's my version of rest. I'm very energetic person. 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:33.040 I like coffee. Some people's like, why do they ever 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.560 introduce you to caffeine in the first place? And so 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.839 my version is I'm going to the beach, I'm walking. 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.360 I might walk a few miles, I might run a 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:41.440 few miles, I might walk back afterwards, i might go 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.440 for a hike, go do this. My version is active, 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.360 but that's rest the rest of my mind and rest 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.640 my emotions. I'm enjoying what God has created, and I'm 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:51.839 physically even though I'm moving, I'm at. 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.360 Rest, phone with you on the walk on the beach 0:05:54.440 --> 0:05:54.599 or no. 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.760 I like to track my miles, so I do, but 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:58.280 outside of that, I'll put a silence. 0:05:58.279 --> 0:05:59.160 I'm listening to some music. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:00.680 Oh you put it on side, yes. 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:02.360 So yeah, that's what I do for that, or listen 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:03.320 to music. I'm gon join my. 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:04.799 Own to ride our bikes. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.160 Yes, like just go on, we go like it at 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.920 eight mile, eleven mile ride on the bike. 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:12.240 And it's just as beautiful. It's peaceful. 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:15.719 Sometimes I don't listen to music because there may be 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:16.680 a car or something coming. 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:17.599 I gotta be able to see. 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.200 But tell us about why you wrote the book and 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.400 a little bit just about growing up in the Butler family. 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.560 Well, I wrote the book after I preached it to 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:29.120 my church. First I started, I thought it was a 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:30.640 week in message, you know, you preach one week in 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.039 message of good Tomorrow Day, weekend, and then the top 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:34.760 it kept going and went ten different messages. 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:36.120 I'm like, well, maybe that's a little bit more too 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:38.839 I need to dive into. And then I took it. 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.440 I was preaching as a staff chapel at Kenith Coopler 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.120 Ministries and I shared on a there and Pastor George 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.560 Pearce said, this needs to be a book quick, yes, 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:48.880 And so I started writing it and sharing with more people. 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.640 That'say care, we have to hear about this, and so 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.960 that's kind of the journey of it. But even growing 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.159 up as a Butler, my uncle is Bishop Keith Butler, 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.760 suppressed so many churches in America, Planet America and around 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:00.880 the world. Great man have gone, great man of God. 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.240 He's been my mentor. When I was a teenager. He 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.400 would take me around one week out of the summer. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:06.680 Wherever he was going in the world. So whether it's 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:07.119 the US. 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.080 He took me to ken Hagen's Last Chapter Camp meeting, 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.320 and so I've traveled with him all around the world. 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:17.280 But I remember one time I hear those were wild. 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:21.440 I have wild memories it also, Yeah, And I remember 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.320 one time I was working for him in Texas, helping 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.880 him planning churches in different places, and I walked to 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:27.400 this office and I was talking to him and he 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.520 told me, I'm behind on my vacation schedule. 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:30.440 I need to rest. 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.720 He says, you know, he pastor three churches at one time, 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.400 so he has a mindset for pastoring one, mindset for 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:37.720 pastoring two. To him, pastoring two churches easy for him. 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:40.840 I'm like, well, God, bless you, sir, But then blessing three. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.360 He says, every time I pastor three churches, I need 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:45.280 to take a vacation at this amount of months. 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.560 He says, I'm a little bit behind, but I'm. 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.240 Going to do that in a couple of weeks. And 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:52.000 so he had a system. He knew himself well enough 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.840 that I need to schedule time to break so I 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:56.600 can keep doing what God has called me to do. 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:58.280 And I remember that in his office it was just 0:07:58.320 --> 0:07:59.600 me and him. I was like, well, let me take 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.800 a minute. So no, because I have to learn myself 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:03.600 and what do I need so I can get into 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:04.600 that rhythm for my life. 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:06.960 Well, the Lord actually spoke to you about this, yes, 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.800 and you didn't obey, right, So tell us that story. 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:11.520 Well, you know, years go by, and sometimes you know 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:12.440 you don't have to rest. 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:14.040 You know, youth kind of covers it up, right. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:15.680 But I remember one time we came out of a 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:18.000 season where our house was destroyed because the water happened 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:18.840 during the holidays. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:20.880 Was that just the most awful thing in the world. 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:26.400 Was water damage multiple places in the house. We had 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.080 a newborn, so we had to leave the house. So 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.800 all the things were going on. So we finally settle 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:32.679 where we're going and said, well, I'm going to take 0:08:32.679 --> 0:08:34.800 a walk and pray because my version of rest is walking. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:36.920 So I'm walking and praying and the Lord began to 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:38.800 speak to me. He started talking to me about what 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:40.280 he wants to do in the body of Christ, how 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:42.520 there's a move of refreshing coming to the body of Christ. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.600 He talked to me about what my role is in it, 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:46.040 and he says, here's what I need you to do. 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:46.720 I'm thinking he's going to. 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.800 Say, you need a fast, you need to pray, you 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:51.080 need to study. He says, I need you to stay refreshed. 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:52.480 Yeah, okay, So. 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:54.079 I began to learn a little bit. You know, you 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:55.520 know when you talk, so you begin to act on 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:56.079 a little bit. 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:57.960 So am I sleeping enough? 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:00.400 But then life happens kind of forget about it. So 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:01.480 I get to the end of the year and really 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.600 just analyze it myself. Okay, what did the Lord speak 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:04.200 to me this year? 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:04.440 Oh? 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:08.040 He told me to stay refreshed. Did I stay refreshed? No? 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:08.720 I did not. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:10.480 I had to repent, like Lord you told me and 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.680 I missed it. Please forgive me, And I realized I 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:14.040 needed to learn more. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:15.560 And what were some of your mistakes that year? 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.200 Sometimes, you know, we let things get to us. You know, 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:20.000 how you plan a day. At first, I'm going to rest, 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.120 I'm going to enjoy. Things are going good for that hour. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.320 Then you get a text or you see some on 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.760 social media. Something happens, and instead of going ten minutes 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:29.480 to deal with it, you let it ruin your day. 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:31.040 And so that was sometimes I was like, Okay, I 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:32.360 got it for ten minutes, I might as well work 0:09:32.400 --> 0:09:34.520 for the next ten hours. That was a mentality I 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:36.719 had a change. It was an emotional mindset I had 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.000 to change. So I don't throw away a day just 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.040 because there was a crisis. 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:40.560 I'm sing. 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.160 You would said today to rest, the Lord told you 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.360 to do that, and then interruptions would come and you 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.840 would let then overrule the decision you had made to 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:51.160 make a day arrest. 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.960 Not just overrule my decision, but also overrule my emotions. 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:55.160 Yeah, and so the. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:56.679 Thing is, you know, Jeszai, come to me. I'll show 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:58.439 you how to rest, take a real rest. 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:00.400 And it has learned of me. I'm meet and lowly 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:00.760 of heart. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.160 He's saying, I have my emotions and control, and so 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.000 sometimes we miss out on rest because our emotions are 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.200 all over the place, and God has. 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:08.600 Given us rest. 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:11.199 Like people taking vacations before, they said, I spend all 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.480 this money going to enjoy it, but one little thing's 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:14.920 happened and they're mad the rest of the vacation. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:16.480 So we spent all this money to enjoy. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:19.080 But you allowed your emotions to become a roller coaster 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:20.760 and now you're not at rest. 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:24.000 So part of the rest is controlling those emotions. Yes, 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:27.960 so another thing you talked about is sleep. Yes, you 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:28.960 changed your schedule. 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:30.480 I had to change my schedule first. I had to 0:10:30.520 --> 0:10:33.200 start tracking how much I slept because before I'm like, 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.040 I'm okay, and my wife told said, you need to 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:36.760 go to sleep. I said, well, Napoleon conquered Europe in 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:37.240 four hours. 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.559 I'm good. She said Napoleon was crazy. Go to bed, 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:42.000 And so I started tracking it. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:44.400 I started counting how many hours I was sleeping every night, 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.679 and I learned something called sleep debt, that your body 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.760 could actually have sleep debt, that your body remembers how 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.040 much sleep it should have had, but it doesn't have. 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:52.080 So I started tracking it. 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:53.640 I said, okay, I need to sleep more than I 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.079 started learning when it is on, When do I get 0:10:55.120 --> 0:10:55.760 my best rest? 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.640 What time during that you were going to bed at? 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:58.120 What time? 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.880 I'm a night hour by nature, so midnight was early, 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.000 could be one could be obviously sending emails at two am, 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:04.959 riding at three am, and then I'll go to sleep 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:06.840 about five hours and hop back up again. 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:08.600 And so I had to stop that. You know, I 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:10.000 got five kids. 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.960 And the thing is in pastoring, and I'm also the 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:13.880 president of the Business Association of Area, so I'm very 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.440 involved in the communities, going to schools, all these different things. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:18.480 So if I'm going to do that, I can't stay 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:19.640 up late and wake up early. 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:19.880 All the time. 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:21.000 No, it's like ten o'clock. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:22.000 It's about ten o'clock. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:23.520 Did that just refresh you? 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:24.240 It did? 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.280 I had to first change my mindset, because that's when 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:27.800 friends like krek you just need to go to bed early, 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:29.840 I said, But I like staying up late, and so 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:32.200 I had to change my mindset. And now I'm up 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.280 early before everybody else and enjoy because. 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.360 The reality is regardless of what time you go to sleep. 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:39.400 Those little those little ones are going to be waking 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:40.160 up this early. 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.840 You know something I learned about that because sometimes you know, 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:45.720 the Lord will lead you take a nap, go to 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:48.160 bed earlier, and he's like, well, no, the kids are asleep. 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:49.800 I want to stay up. I want to watch the show, 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:51.319 I want to do this and be production. Let me 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:52.079 get stuff done. 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:53.840 But if the spirit of God is leading you arrest, 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:55.360 he knows something, you know, because that's gonna be the 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.040 night the kids can wake up in the middle of 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:58.520 the night and he'll be up with him for a 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.360 couple of hours, and then you wake up in the morning. 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:01.280 I said, man, I get enough sleep. 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.319 But God told us go to bed early because he 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:04.200 knew that was. 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:05.559 The night the kid was going to wake up. 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:09.160 So once you did that first message, did what was 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.559 it that resonated that caused it to continue? What did 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:14.040 you say in it that really resonated with people that 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.120 were like, Okay, we need more teaching on this. 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:17.880 They started talking to me about this the pastorly, you've 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.040 hit on something. I'm not resting at all. I don't 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.360 know how to rest, And so I started teaching how 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.400 to rest, how to take a break. How to take 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:26.800 a vacation. First you got to block off that time. 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:28.400 You know, we'd like to skelch. Some of us are 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:30.800 very schedule oriented, and we can schedule some things, but 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:33.439 we don't schedule rest because we don't value rest. 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:34.680 And one of the things I've learned. 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:36.959 From the Scripture, anytime you take holy things and make 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.360 them comment, you get in trouble. And the rest is 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:41.360 called holy in the scripture, but we treat it as 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.360 common in our hustle culture. We grind, we move, but 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:45.320 rest is wholy. 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.240 Okay, So set a time, that's one thing. What else? 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.560 You set a time and then you block it off. 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:51.319 But also you have to learn how do you rest? 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:52.840 Because some people I'm going to rest, Well what does 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:53.360 that look like? 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:54.160 Well? 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:56.760 What do you need to do? Find out how you rest? 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:57.920 It's just once a week. 0:12:58.200 --> 0:12:59.800 You need to do it, maybe at least once a week, 0:12:59.840 --> 0:13:01.320 but sometimes you have certain seasons that. 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:03.120 Of commanded to do it once a week. 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.760 It kind of commanded for the Sabbath, right right, And 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:07.440 so under the Old Covenant there was a day of Sabbath, 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.240 there was a year sabbath. But on the New Covenant, 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:10.720 we don't have a day of Sabbath. We have a 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.480 Lord of Sabbath, so he sets the rhythm. So we 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.800 actually have to talk to him about our weekly schedule because. 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:16.280 Some people may need a day and a half. 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:17.719 They may need a day a half, he may need 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.040 two days. Let him show you what you need. Because 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:22.319 your body needs rest, your mind needs rest, your emotions 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:23.600 needs to rest, your spirit needs rest. 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:24.960 Your family needs rests. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.280 Look like for your family, for my family. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.400 So we have this huge family. I'm the active rest person. 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:32.160 My wife is I'm going to sit by the pool, 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:33.160 by the beach rest person. 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:37.560 And your wife we're like you guys would be enjoying us. 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.199 Yes, I'm going to jump in the ocean with the kids, 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.080 probably throw them in the ocean a little bit after 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:41.440 I ran. 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:42.000 A few miles. 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.360 That's my version of rest. And so we've learning what 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.439 each one needs. Okay, one needs to be active, one 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.000 needs to I want to go sit aside and read 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.280 a book. One need wants to be very involved, and 0:13:51.280 --> 0:13:53.040 it wants to have a movie day with us. So 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:55.480 we're learning each one and will prioritize on our life 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:55.920 around that. 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.400 Do you rest outside of your kids, like as a 0:13:58.480 --> 0:13:59.280 parent and as a couple. 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:01.760 Do you think that's an important Yes, it's very important, 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:03.400 and you have to learn how to do it, don't 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:05.800 you think is important. We've learned to do date days, 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.040 not so much date nights, and so in this season 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:09.840 of like with little kids, we do date days. So 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:11.800 we'd go we're going to do this together. You might 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.080 go to watch this movie, you might go to eat out, 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.800 or my school wall. It's important because you have to 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:18.640 take time aside for yourselves. 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:21.040 I love the rest that you do with your family. 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.680 Tell everybody about taco to Taco Tuesday. 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:25.800 So we started a number of years ago, and so 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:27.800 we do it every single Tuesday. And so even my 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.240 staff knowes don't bother him on Tuesday evenings because it's 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.920 Taco Tuesday. Even my whole church knows it's Taco Tuesday. 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.480 Don't message pastor. And so we block out that time. 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.240