Speaker 1: So are you feeling run down and exhausted? Maybe you
Speaker 1: feel stuck in an endless cycle overwork drained. Well, according
Speaker 1: to today's guest, you can break the cycle through one
Speaker 1: key biblical principle, and he's here to tell us about that.
Speaker 1: So you want to say tuned, be first joining me
Speaker 1: around the table. My dear friend, Cindy Johnston, how are
Speaker 1: you doing?
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm doing well.
Speaker 3: Sometimes everybody's trying to tell us to rest, right right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I think God rested after he made all of creation,
Speaker 3: and if he wanted to rest, I think that is
Speaker 3: a great indicator we need to rest.
Speaker 2: That's right, Annie Kendall. You for that. I am for that.
Speaker 4: I believe that RESK is invigorating.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Told me you met some people somewhere that watch you
Speaker 1: on table talk.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and they this lady said.
Speaker 2: Where was this hat?
Speaker 4: It was at a luncheon where I was speaking, And
Speaker 4: this lady said, I love table talk and I love
Speaker 4: all of the wisdom.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think she said I love you
Speaker 1: being on there because you bring wisdom. Yes, yes, she's
Speaker 1: not going to say that about herself.
Speaker 4: She didn't say elderly, but that's right.
Speaker 2: Rachel m.
Speaker 3: Brown.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the table. We like having a little wisdom
Speaker 1: at the table.
Speaker 2: We doo yeah too, And.
Speaker 6: I'm excited about our guest today. This is a topic
Speaker 6: that I had to learn early on as a graduate.
Speaker 1: You really not doing this, by the way, I have
Speaker 1: to tell everybody.
Speaker 6: It's a part of my testimony with the Lord. He
Speaker 6: told me, Rachel, I came to give you life and
Speaker 6: life more abundantly. And nowhere in that does it say
Speaker 6: anything about being tired, exhausted, worn out, overworked. And he said,
Speaker 6: if you do less, I can do more in your life.
Speaker 6: And I said, sign over that.
Speaker 2: If you do I can do more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like you you really understand rest.
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 7: You know I work hard, you do have when it's
Speaker 7: time the rest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe in it.
Speaker 1: It's having my job keep you busy, but when it
Speaker 1: when it's done, you take time to rest.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 7: I do, And you know some of it is pleasure,
Speaker 7: like I love watching Korean TV and.
Speaker 2: That's my favor.
Speaker 1: Found this out and out, Dorothy, all right, we're finding
Speaker 1: out things we never are.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: I'm I'm in that season of rest where I'm as
Speaker 8: busy as I need to be. It's a new season
Speaker 8: of what God has for David and I. And I
Speaker 8: was thinking as we were all the mountains of North Carolina, folks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she tells me. She wears her.
Speaker 1: Sweatpants, know her leggings, in her sweat shirts, look out
Speaker 1: into the smoky mountains and see the awesomeness of God
Speaker 1: and all the animals.
Speaker 2: That you still come back for. I come back. I
Speaker 2: still get to stay connected.
Speaker 8: But when we think we're smarter than God, God himself rested,
Speaker 8: we're really in trouble truth when we I love what
Speaker 8: you said, Rachel.
Speaker 2: You know if we do less, God can do more.
Speaker 8: However, you said that, and I'm in that beautiful season
Speaker 8: in my life and i love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. But yeah, I mean.
Speaker 8: You're resting, but you're still still being production. I see
Speaker 8: God doing it in.
Speaker 2: A whole different area my life, and I'm all right. Well.
Speaker 1: He is the senior pastor of Faith Christians Center and
Speaker 1: Able to Georgia, and he's here to talk about his
Speaker 1: new book, Rhythm of Rest. Please welcome Kerrick Butler. Come
Speaker 1: on in, kerk All right.
Speaker 5: Hello everyone here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get to hear you.
Speaker 1: You any take on the ladies at the table. Let's
Speaker 1: go Okay, I love that.
Speaker 7: I love it.
Speaker 1: So how do we escape this narra burnout? And is
Speaker 1: it pop possible to embrace the lifestyle of supernatural renewal? Well,
Speaker 1: it starts by embracing a key biblical principle that will
Speaker 1: end your striving and transform your life. Ker you pastor there, Yes,
Speaker 1: in Georgia, a great church. Married, Yes, five kids, yes,
Speaker 1: four girls and a boy.
Speaker 9: Yes.
Speaker 6: To know, how can you have five kids and write this?
Speaker 6: Because I'm string to figure it out?
Speaker 2: Good questions.
Speaker 5: So when I was writing the book, I had to
Speaker 5: be dedicated to not violate the principles of.
Speaker 9: The book to write the books.
Speaker 5: To stay I was like, no, no, no, you're teaching
Speaker 5: on the rest. You need to lift this thing as
Speaker 5: you write it. And so I've learned to take advantage.
Speaker 9: Of these moments, these opportunities to rest.
Speaker 5: I remember one time I was taking my oldest a
Speaker 5: volleyball practice and it was just the drive back and
Speaker 5: forth didn't make sense. And so it was years ago
Speaker 5: I wrote another book while I was.
Speaker 9: Waiting for a volleyball practice.
Speaker 5: I find these moments and I take advantage of these opportunities.
Speaker 5: A lot of times people say, we don't have time
Speaker 5: to rest because I got this, I got this, we
Speaker 5: got this five minutes. What are you doing with it
Speaker 5: these third minutes? You doom scrolling on your phone? Or
Speaker 5: are you actually gonna do something that you enjoy?
Speaker 1: You got to put down that phone. Yes, that's one
Speaker 1: of the big things. Well, you know, I love what
Speaker 1: you said that resting isn't just going to take a
Speaker 1: nap or sitting in a chair, enjoying the beauty of
Speaker 1: the mountains, you know, or sitting on.
Speaker 2: The swing or whatever.
Speaker 1: Resting can be walking down the beach, right absolutely, yes,
Speaker 1: going on a hike, yes, and just looking at God's creation,
Speaker 1: or just going for a walk around the block.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, that's my version of rest. I'm very energetic person.
Speaker 5: I like coffee. Some people's like, why do they ever
Speaker 5: introduce you to caffeine in the first place? And so
Speaker 5: my version is I'm going to the beach, I'm walking.
Speaker 5: I might walk a few miles, I might run a
Speaker 5: few miles, I might walk back afterwards, i might go
Speaker 5: for a hike, go do this. My version is active,
Speaker 5: but that's rest the rest of my mind and rest
Speaker 5: my emotions. I'm enjoying what God has created, and I'm
Speaker 5: physically even though I'm moving, I'm at.
Speaker 2: Rest, phone with you on the walk on the beach
Speaker 2: or no.
Speaker 5: I like to track my miles, so I do, but
Speaker 5: outside of that, I'll put a silence.
Speaker 9: I'm listening to some music.
Speaker 2: Oh you put it on side, yes.
Speaker 9: So yeah, that's what I do for that, or listen
Speaker 9: to music. I'm gon join my.
Speaker 2: Own to ride our bikes.
Speaker 1: Yes, like just go on, we go like it at
Speaker 1: eight mile, eleven mile ride on the bike.
Speaker 2: And it's just as beautiful. It's peaceful.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't listen to music because there may be
Speaker 1: a car or something coming.
Speaker 9: I gotta be able to see.
Speaker 1: But tell us about why you wrote the book and
Speaker 1: a little bit just about growing up in the Butler family.
Speaker 5: Well, I wrote the book after I preached it to
Speaker 5: my church. First I started, I thought it was a
Speaker 5: week in message, you know, you preach one week in
Speaker 5: message of good Tomorrow Day, weekend, and then the top
Speaker 5: it kept going and went ten different messages.
Speaker 9: I'm like, well, maybe that's a little bit more too
Speaker 9: I need to dive into. And then I took it.
Speaker 5: I was preaching as a staff chapel at Kenith Coopler
Speaker 5: Ministries and I shared on a there and Pastor George
Speaker 5: Pearce said, this needs to be a book quick, yes,
Speaker 5: And so I started writing it and sharing with more people.
Speaker 5: That'say care, we have to hear about this, and so
Speaker 5: that's kind of the journey of it. But even growing
Speaker 5: up as a Butler, my uncle is Bishop Keith Butler,
Speaker 5: suppressed so many churches in America, Planet America and around
Speaker 5: the world. Great man have gone, great man of God.
Speaker 5: He's been my mentor. When I was a teenager. He
Speaker 5: would take me around one week out of the summer.
Speaker 9: Wherever he was going in the world. So whether it's
Speaker 9: the US.
Speaker 5: He took me to ken Hagen's Last Chapter Camp meeting,
Speaker 5: and so I've traveled with him all around the world.
Speaker 5: But I remember one time I hear those were wild.
Speaker 5: I have wild memories it also, Yeah, And I remember
Speaker 5: one time I was working for him in Texas, helping
Speaker 5: him planning churches in different places, and I walked to
Speaker 5: this office and I was talking to him and he
Speaker 5: told me, I'm behind on my vacation schedule.
Speaker 9: I need to rest.
Speaker 5: He says, you know, he pastor three churches at one time,
Speaker 5: so he has a mindset for pastoring one, mindset for
Speaker 5: pastoring two. To him, pastoring two churches easy for him.
Speaker 5: I'm like, well, God, bless you, sir, But then blessing three.
Speaker 5: He says, every time I pastor three churches, I need
Speaker 5: to take a vacation at this amount of months.
Speaker 9: He says, I'm a little bit behind, but I'm.
Speaker 5: Going to do that in a couple of weeks. And
Speaker 5: so he had a system. He knew himself well enough
Speaker 5: that I need to schedule time to break so I
Speaker 5: can keep doing what God has called me to do.
Speaker 5: And I remember that in his office it was just
Speaker 5: me and him. I was like, well, let me take
Speaker 5: a minute. So no, because I have to learn myself
Speaker 5: and what do I need so I can get into
Speaker 5: that rhythm for my life.
Speaker 1: Well, the Lord actually spoke to you about this, yes,
Speaker 1: and you didn't obey, right, So tell us that story.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, years go by, and sometimes you know
Speaker 5: you don't have to rest.
Speaker 9: You know, youth kind of covers it up, right.
Speaker 5: But I remember one time we came out of a
Speaker 5: season where our house was destroyed because the water happened
Speaker 5: during the holidays.
Speaker 2: Was that just the most awful thing in the world.
Speaker 5: Was water damage multiple places in the house. We had
Speaker 5: a newborn, so we had to leave the house. So
Speaker 5: all the things were going on. So we finally settle
Speaker 5: where we're going and said, well, I'm going to take
Speaker 5: a walk and pray because my version of rest is walking.
Speaker 5: So I'm walking and praying and the Lord began to
Speaker 5: speak to me. He started talking to me about what
Speaker 5: he wants to do in the body of Christ, how
Speaker 5: there's a move of refreshing coming to the body of Christ.
Speaker 5: He talked to me about what my role is in it,
Speaker 5: and he says, here's what I need you to do.
Speaker 9: I'm thinking he's going to.
Speaker 5: Say, you need a fast, you need to pray, you
Speaker 5: need to study. He says, I need you to stay refreshed.
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, So.
Speaker 5: I began to learn a little bit. You know, you
Speaker 5: know when you talk, so you begin to act on
Speaker 5: a little bit.
Speaker 9: So am I sleeping enough?
Speaker 5: But then life happens kind of forget about it. So
Speaker 5: I get to the end of the year and really
Speaker 5: just analyze it myself. Okay, what did the Lord speak
Speaker 5: to me this year?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 9: He told me to stay refreshed. Did I stay refreshed? No?
Speaker 9: I did not.
Speaker 5: I had to repent, like Lord you told me and
Speaker 5: I missed it. Please forgive me, And I realized I
Speaker 5: needed to learn more.
Speaker 2: And what were some of your mistakes that year?
Speaker 5: Sometimes, you know, we let things get to us. You know,
Speaker 5: how you plan a day. At first, I'm going to rest,
Speaker 5: I'm going to enjoy. Things are going good for that hour.
Speaker 5: Then you get a text or you see some on
Speaker 5: social media. Something happens, and instead of going ten minutes
Speaker 5: to deal with it, you let it ruin your day.
Speaker 5: And so that was sometimes I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 5: got it for ten minutes, I might as well work
Speaker 5: for the next ten hours. That was a mentality I
Speaker 5: had a change. It was an emotional mindset I had
Speaker 5: to change. So I don't throw away a day just
Speaker 5: because there was a crisis.
Speaker 9: I'm sing.
Speaker 1: You would said today to rest, the Lord told you
Speaker 1: to do that, and then interruptions would come and you
Speaker 1: would let then overrule the decision you had made to
Speaker 1: make a day arrest.
Speaker 5: Not just overrule my decision, but also overrule my emotions.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and so the.
Speaker 5: Thing is, you know, Jeszai, come to me. I'll show
Speaker 5: you how to rest, take a real rest.
Speaker 9: And it has learned of me. I'm meet and lowly
Speaker 9: of heart.
Speaker 5: He's saying, I have my emotions and control, and so
Speaker 5: sometimes we miss out on rest because our emotions are
Speaker 5: all over the place, and God has.
Speaker 9: Given us rest.
Speaker 5: Like people taking vacations before, they said, I spend all
Speaker 5: this money going to enjoy it, but one little thing's
Speaker 5: happened and they're mad the rest of the vacation.
Speaker 9: So we spent all this money to enjoy.
Speaker 5: But you allowed your emotions to become a roller coaster
Speaker 5: and now you're not at rest.
Speaker 1: So part of the rest is controlling those emotions. Yes,
Speaker 1: so another thing you talked about is sleep. Yes, you
Speaker 1: changed your schedule.
Speaker 5: I had to change my schedule first. I had to
Speaker 5: start tracking how much I slept because before I'm like,
Speaker 5: I'm okay, and my wife told said, you need to
Speaker 5: go to sleep. I said, well, Napoleon conquered Europe in
Speaker 5: four hours.
Speaker 9: I'm good. She said Napoleon was crazy. Go to bed,
Speaker 9: And so I started tracking it.
Speaker 5: I started counting how many hours I was sleeping every night,
Speaker 5: and I learned something called sleep debt, that your body
Speaker 5: could actually have sleep debt, that your body remembers how
Speaker 5: much sleep it should have had, but it doesn't have.
Speaker 9: So I started tracking it.
Speaker 5: I said, okay, I need to sleep more than I
Speaker 5: started learning when it is on, When do I get
Speaker 5: my best rest?
Speaker 9: What time during that you were going to bed at?
Speaker 2: What time?
Speaker 5: I'm a night hour by nature, so midnight was early,
Speaker 5: could be one could be obviously sending emails at two am,
Speaker 5: riding at three am, and then I'll go to sleep
Speaker 5: about five hours and hop back up again.
Speaker 9: And so I had to stop that. You know, I
Speaker 9: got five kids.
Speaker 5: And the thing is in pastoring, and I'm also the
Speaker 5: president of the Business Association of Area, so I'm very
Speaker 5: involved in the communities, going to schools, all these different things.
Speaker 5: So if I'm going to do that, I can't stay
Speaker 5: up late and wake up early.
Speaker 9: All the time.
Speaker 2: No, it's like ten o'clock.
Speaker 9: It's about ten o'clock.
Speaker 2: Did that just refresh you?
Speaker 9: It did?
Speaker 5: I had to first change my mindset, because that's when
Speaker 5: friends like krek you just need to go to bed early,
Speaker 5: I said, But I like staying up late, and so
Speaker 5: I had to change my mindset. And now I'm up
Speaker 5: early before everybody else and enjoy because.
Speaker 6: The reality is regardless of what time you go to sleep.
Speaker 6: Those little those little ones are going to be waking
Speaker 6: up this early.
Speaker 5: You know something I learned about that because sometimes you know,
Speaker 5: the Lord will lead you take a nap, go to
Speaker 5: bed earlier, and he's like, well, no, the kids are asleep.
Speaker 9: I want to stay up. I want to watch the show,
Speaker 9: I want to do this and be production. Let me
Speaker 9: get stuff done.
Speaker 5: But if the spirit of God is leading you arrest,
Speaker 5: he knows something, you know, because that's gonna be the
Speaker 5: night the kids can wake up in the middle of
Speaker 5: the night and he'll be up with him for a
Speaker 5: couple of hours, and then you wake up in the morning.
Speaker 9: I said, man, I get enough sleep.
Speaker 5: But God told us go to bed early because he
Speaker 5: knew that was.
Speaker 9: The night the kid was going to wake up.
Speaker 1: So once you did that first message, did what was
Speaker 1: it that resonated that caused it to continue? What did
Speaker 1: you say in it that really resonated with people that
Speaker 1: were like, Okay, we need more teaching on this.
Speaker 5: They started talking to me about this the pastorly, you've
Speaker 5: hit on something. I'm not resting at all. I don't
Speaker 5: know how to rest, And so I started teaching how
Speaker 5: to rest, how to take a break. How to take
Speaker 5: a vacation. First you got to block off that time.
Speaker 5: You know, we'd like to skelch. Some of us are
Speaker 5: very schedule oriented, and we can schedule some things, but
Speaker 5: we don't schedule rest because we don't value rest.
Speaker 9: And one of the things I've learned.
Speaker 5: From the Scripture, anytime you take holy things and make
Speaker 5: them comment, you get in trouble. And the rest is
Speaker 5: called holy in the scripture, but we treat it as
Speaker 5: common in our hustle culture. We grind, we move, but
Speaker 5: rest is wholy.
Speaker 2: Okay, So set a time, that's one thing. What else?
Speaker 5: You set a time and then you block it off.
Speaker 5: But also you have to learn how do you rest?
Speaker 5: Because some people I'm going to rest, Well what does
Speaker 5: that look like?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 9: What do you need to do? Find out how you rest?
Speaker 2: It's just once a week.
Speaker 5: You need to do it, maybe at least once a week,
Speaker 5: but sometimes you have certain seasons that.
Speaker 2: Of commanded to do it once a week.
Speaker 5: It kind of commanded for the Sabbath, right right, And
Speaker 5: so under the Old Covenant there was a day of Sabbath,
Speaker 5: there was a year sabbath. But on the New Covenant,
Speaker 5: we don't have a day of Sabbath. We have a
Speaker 5: Lord of Sabbath, so he sets the rhythm. So we
Speaker 5: actually have to talk to him about our weekly schedule because.
Speaker 2: Some people may need a day and a half.
Speaker 5: They may need a day a half, he may need
Speaker 5: two days. Let him show you what you need. Because
Speaker 5: your body needs rest, your mind needs rest, your emotions
Speaker 5: needs to rest, your spirit needs rest.
Speaker 2: Your family needs rests.
Speaker 6: Look like for your family, for my family.
Speaker 5: So we have this huge family. I'm the active rest person.
Speaker 5: My wife is I'm going to sit by the pool,
Speaker 5: by the beach rest person.
Speaker 10: And your wife we're like you guys would be enjoying us.
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm going to jump in the ocean with the kids,
Speaker 5: probably throw them in the ocean a little bit after
Speaker 5: I ran.
Speaker 9: A few miles.
Speaker 5: That's my version of rest. And so we've learning what
Speaker 5: each one needs. Okay, one needs to be active, one
Speaker 5: needs to I want to go sit aside and read
Speaker 5: a book. One need wants to be very involved, and
Speaker 5: it wants to have a movie day with us. So
Speaker 5: we're learning each one and will prioritize on our life
Speaker 5: around that.
Speaker 6: Do you rest outside of your kids, like as a
Speaker 6: parent and as a couple.
Speaker 5: Do you think that's an important Yes, it's very important,
Speaker 5: and you have to learn how to do it, don't
Speaker 5: you think is important. We've learned to do date days,
Speaker 5: not so much date nights, and so in this season
Speaker 5: of like with little kids, we do date days. So
Speaker 5: we'd go we're going to do this together. You might
Speaker 5: go to watch this movie, you might go to eat out,
Speaker 5: or my school wall. It's important because you have to
Speaker 5: take time aside for yourselves.
Speaker 1: I love the rest that you do with your family.
Speaker 1: Tell everybody about taco to Taco Tuesday.
Speaker 5: So we started a number of years ago, and so
Speaker 5: we do it every single Tuesday. And so even my
Speaker 5: staff knowes don't bother him on Tuesday evenings because it's
Speaker 5: Taco Tuesday. Even my whole church knows it's Taco Tuesday.
Speaker 5: Don't message pastor. And so we block out that time.
Speaker 5: We cook tacos, lay out a spread on the table,
Speaker 5: and we sit around on the table. We eat, we
Speaker 5: listen to music, we laugh. It's our one of our
Speaker 5: weekly things, your daughter weekly holiday.
Speaker 9: And so they know what they expected. During the fall winter.
Speaker 5: I'll make some taco soup with it, and we'll just
Speaker 5: have a great time. We lay out a spread and
Speaker 5: so it's not just like in their plate, but it's
Speaker 5: like they can reach and grab. It's a whole family experience.
Speaker 1: Yes, so you got like, what tell me what else
Speaker 1: in the middle, because I'm visioning right now.
Speaker 5: So we do ground turkey. Then we might have halopenias
Speaker 5: because I love spicy things. Then we have pale peppers
Speaker 5: and peppers, and a lot of cheese, tons, mountains, juacamole,
Speaker 5: avocado and tomatoes.
Speaker 1: You have.
Speaker 5: Whole tons of chips, tons of tortilla chips.
Speaker 2: The holidays.
Speaker 8: They will remember that and implement that in the case,
Speaker 8: So you didn't.
Speaker 2: You have that.
Speaker 5: I had to cut back the caso at one point,
Speaker 5: but because my wife's pregnant.
Speaker 9: Can't have casel while you're pregnant. So I was like,
Speaker 9: I can't put that on the table while she's pregnant.
Speaker 4: That's you know, what you're doing is you're establishing traditions, right,
Speaker 4: and that gives kids such such confidence. When there's traditions,
Speaker 4: they can depend on you.
Speaker 1: Yes, well, you know there are people watching, you're listening,
Speaker 1: and you're like, I need to do this. I know
Speaker 1: I need to do this. The thing is is if
Speaker 1: you don't do it, then sometimes God will sit you
Speaker 1: down in another way.
Speaker 5: I call it a forced wress, a foresdress.
Speaker 2: So you don't want to force ress.
Speaker 9: You do not want to force rest.
Speaker 5: You know, we saw that in the script when the
Speaker 5: Israelites removed from the land, and the reason why is
Speaker 5: because they did not let the land rest. So said
Speaker 5: the land had rest seventy years. Now what is our
Speaker 5: bodies made from the dirt? If the land have arrest,
Speaker 5: how much more do our bodies have to rest if
Speaker 5: not in a force rest, whether it's physical, whether it's mental,
Speaker 5: whether it's emotional. And a lot of times people are
Speaker 5: going through things in their families because they never rested.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna hustle. I'm gonna work hard during this time.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make all this money, and then I'm gonna
Speaker 5: rest and enjoy. But now you have to spend that money,
Speaker 5: spend that bag on the everything you need to get
Speaker 5: your family like you again because you didn't prioritize them
Speaker 5: while you were working. So that's still force rest in
Speaker 5: a different form and your help.
Speaker 8: Yes, we don't rest, then our bodies will pay a
Speaker 8: great price.
Speaker 2: A lot of times as long as rebel. That would
Speaker 2: be the force ress for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, we're gonna talk more with care when we
Speaker 1: come back from this breaks.
Speaker 2: They're right there.
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Speaker 1: Well, we're talking with pastor Carrick Butler, whose book Rhythm
Speaker 1: of Rest. Rachel just quickly kind of share how the
Speaker 1: Lord dealt with you on the whole sleep thing. You
Speaker 1: and Josh have a funny store.
Speaker 6: Well, it's so funny when me and my husband went
Speaker 6: to marriage Conselana. They give you, like all these questions
Speaker 6: and you've got to fill them out and wet with Anna.
Speaker 6: You want to fill it out separately, and then you
Speaker 6: come together and we were really solid on most of them.
Speaker 6: I think we're probably a little unique in the facts
Speaker 6: that I was like wanting to know everything before I
Speaker 6: got into this. I'm like, I need to know old things.
Speaker 2: But the one question, yes.
Speaker 6: I was like, you got on this to this questionnaire
Speaker 6: is what time do you go to bed? Because I
Speaker 6: was like, you, I was a night owl. I stayed
Speaker 6: up all night, but my husband went to bed early.
Speaker 1: And so it was driving him crazy. Yes, does he
Speaker 1: want to go to bed like nine o'clock and she's
Speaker 1: like two o'clock.
Speaker 6: Yeah. So that was a like we literally never fought
Speaker 6: at all, and when people would ask like, how's your
Speaker 6: first year of marriage, it's like, it's great. We just
Speaker 6: can't get aligned on when we go to sleep. And so,
Speaker 6: you know, I just have a lot of drive, a
Speaker 6: lot of you know, just wanting to do everything with excellence.
Speaker 6: I always joke around with my team I'm recovering perfectionist,
Speaker 6: because I don't know that you ever fully get there.
Speaker 6: But I learned when I got out of college the
Speaker 6: world doesn't reward perfection. It rewards people who get stuck done.
Speaker 6: And so I had to go through this, like you know,
Speaker 6: journey with the Lord. When I wanted to become a mom,
Speaker 6: I knew that it wasn't I was.
Speaker 2: Going to say, two kids will change that.
Speaker 6: Too, Well, yeah, it couldn't be a reality that I
Speaker 6: was at the office till like ten eleven twelve, and
Speaker 6: it wasn't because anybody was making me be here. I
Speaker 6: remember Dad would email me, go home, are your mom
Speaker 6: has made dinner?
Speaker 2: Come home?
Speaker 6: And he knew like he wasn't going to call me,
Speaker 6: he was gonna have to send an email because I
Speaker 6: would be working.
Speaker 2: It's true, it's true, but you know, we.
Speaker 6: Just had to unlearn some of those kind of bad
Speaker 6: habits that I got into. And like I said earlier,
Speaker 6: at the beginning of the show, the Lord convicted my
Speaker 6: heart and he said if you if you do less,
Speaker 6: I can do more in your life.
Speaker 2: I love that, you know. I was very much the
Speaker 2: same way as you. I'm a night person.
Speaker 4: I feel better at night, I have more energy at night.
Speaker 4: I wake up in the morning and I don't feel
Speaker 4: good to start with. So I've had to change everything,
Speaker 4: including my confession. I wake up in the what you say,
Speaker 4: I'm energized, joy, strength, you know what.
Speaker 2: It wasn't there.
Speaker 4: But if you start changing your confession, you change your
Speaker 4: the words that come out of your mouth, as well
Speaker 4: as change your sleep habit, it can make it Otherwise.
Speaker 2: I was doing forced list.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not just sleep, but something that helped me
Speaker 6: as I now work out in the morning and having
Speaker 6: that consistent.
Speaker 2: Yes, it kind of helps with instead of doing that
Speaker 2: at night. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I think me going to earlier and waking up early,
Speaker 1: like you said, I think that time my mind is
Speaker 1: really clear for the Lord to speak to me early
Speaker 1: in the morning.
Speaker 12: Well, I married someone that's like the two of you.
Speaker 2: Okay, I was the one that was in bed earlier.
Speaker 2: But you like to lay on the beach and read
Speaker 2: your book. Yeah, exactly, That's what I like to do.
Speaker 2: That's rest.
Speaker 12: But we had to come together as well trying to
Speaker 12: figure out what would work best. But it is I
Speaker 12: found as well, going to bed earlier and getting up earlier.
Speaker 12: It seems like you can get a lot more accomplished
Speaker 12: during the day by doing that.
Speaker 6: I think that's scientific, right, Like there's certain things.
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, you know, honestly, guys, I know you probably
Speaker 7: think it's funny, But the most refreshing, re energizing thing
Speaker 7: that I do is watch Korean tivy.
Speaker 2: I mean every I mean I think about it. You
Speaker 2: have to read, we have to read the subtitles.
Speaker 7: You know. I can't text, I can't answer the phone,
Speaker 7: I can't do anything but read the subtitles.
Speaker 2: It is the most enjoyable thing.
Speaker 1: That's honestly, how I risk like, well, there's the other
Speaker 1: things you do. You listen to worship music, absolutely, I
Speaker 1: mean God is always first. But I can tell you
Speaker 1: at end the day, from nine thirty to eleven thirty,
Speaker 1: I'm watching Career. I'll never forget this program. I had
Speaker 1: no idea about Doors.
Speaker 4: She has told me that, and I said, to you,
Speaker 4: speak any Korean. She said, it's coming to her as
Speaker 4: she watches.
Speaker 8: You know, David and I are different in that he's
Speaker 8: a night out. But what would happen is I'd say, well, baby,
Speaker 8: I'm not going to bed without you. And it didn't
Speaker 8: take long till I kept I would just lay on
Speaker 8: the couch if he wanted to work or whatever, and
Speaker 8: go to sleep. But he got to feel in so
Speaker 8: bad that I needed to go to bed, but I
Speaker 8: wouldn't go without him. That he changed the way he
Speaker 8: goes to bed. Now he goes to bed earlier. Yeah,
Speaker 8: and more productive. We are as a couple more productive
Speaker 8: by going to bed earlier.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think so early.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I don't want to sound like super spiritual,
Speaker 1: but for me, like even like taking a bath at
Speaker 1: that's RESTful. But putting on because you're with your phone.
Speaker 1: Now you can put on the Word of God and
Speaker 1: have it read to you. Why you just close your eyes.
Speaker 1: That's really powerful too, is it is?
Speaker 9: It is?
Speaker 5: You have to learn how you rest and you take
Speaker 5: advantage of it.
Speaker 9: So you know how you rest. You know how you rest.
Speaker 5: So whatever the way you rest, whether it's listening toread.
Speaker 9: TV, whether it's taking a bath, protect it.
Speaker 5: I will not interrupt this because once you know that,
Speaker 5: it's a blessing.
Speaker 9: To you, It's a gift of God to you.
Speaker 6: Why do you think this concept is so hard.
Speaker 1: Because the culture we're live in, Yes, right here, right
Speaker 1: here for the phone social I don't know.
Speaker 6: I feel like gen Z might be getting it because
Speaker 6: but the millennials were like very huful, well used.
Speaker 8: To I remember as I got older and a young adult,
Speaker 8: you were made to feel bad you needed sleep, like
Speaker 8: you were lazy, you were not productive. How could you
Speaker 8: need that much sleep? So it was indoctrinated.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the internet AI social media, I mean
Speaker 1: all of us sitting here at this table. If you
Speaker 1: lost your phone today, you'd be panicking. We've got to
Speaker 1: get to a place, or we put that phone down.
Speaker 2: We bought a little cabinet. Rachel showed it to me online.
Speaker 1: And when when they and when they come over like
Speaker 1: to get in body, We're like, put it.
Speaker 2: In the cabinet. We don't put it.
Speaker 1: You're not taking your phone out to the pool. We're
Speaker 1: going to play with the kids, you know during the meal.
Speaker 2: Put it in the cabin you know at the meal.
Speaker 1: Like, have you ever looked around a restaurant, Oh, I know,
Speaker 1: at a family they're all on their phone.
Speaker 2: So this is a big deal, right, it is.
Speaker 5: And so we've had to learn how to put the
Speaker 5: phone the other room. And so one of the things
Speaker 5: I had part of this journey because you know.
Speaker 2: What happens on Taco Tuesday.
Speaker 9: Where are the phones somewhere else? Yeah, on the other
Speaker 9: side of the room. Because I had to start doing
Speaker 9: this when I woke up in the morning. I don't
Speaker 9: sleep next to my phone anymore.
Speaker 5: No, that's a cabinet away from because you know the
Speaker 5: reason I slept next because that's what.
Speaker 9: I'm on right before I fall asleep. So your alarm
Speaker 9: and the alarm, and so I have to learn.
Speaker 5: I said, well, you know what I can put the
Speaker 5: alarm on my watch and keep the phone in the
Speaker 5: other room.
Speaker 9: And then I can make.
Speaker 1: Sure putting my phone in the other room too, because
Speaker 1: even if I have it on vibrating.
Speaker 6: How do you how do you wake up?
Speaker 2: That's what he's called an alarm clock.
Speaker 1: It's what we were used in the the olden days.
Speaker 2: Guess what you're getting in your stocking or rooster? We
Speaker 2: have a clock.
Speaker 1: We have a clock because we can see what time
Speaker 1: it is. And then we have said it yeah, and
Speaker 1: he goes.
Speaker 4: By, I love the name of your book, the Rhythm
Speaker 4: of Risk, because we each have our own rhythm. We
Speaker 4: each have our own way that God's dealing with us.
Speaker 4: And to find our specific rhythm is really important.
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 5: It's really important because we live offbeat and not see
Speaker 5: I rebelled against my rhythm.
Speaker 4: My rhythm might have been saying go to sleep, and
Speaker 4: I said, no, I've got stuff to.
Speaker 1: Do, you know, so we have to find me in
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been done the same thing, stayed up late.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but you know what, if you get on
Speaker 2: that phone and start scrolling, you can you can go
Speaker 2: an hour not even realize what that is.
Speaker 1: So crazy, So how about just taking a moment, if
Speaker 1: you would, kerk and just pray for those that are
Speaker 1: watching right now that you know you know you're not resting,
Speaker 1: and it's showing up in your body, your soul and
Speaker 1: your spirit and all those need rest.
Speaker 5: Yes, now, I'm going to pray for you, and you're
Speaker 5: gonna have the best rest of your life.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Father, I thank you that you are the God of peace,
Speaker 5: and part of the definition of peace is rest. So
Speaker 5: I pray for everyone under the sign my voice. I
Speaker 5: pray that they'll be refreshed right now spiritually, emotionally, mentally, physically,
Speaker 5: that they'll receive rest in their family, rest in their
Speaker 5: social life. I pray for those who struggle with going
Speaker 5: to sleep, who are dealing with nightmares and night terrors.
Speaker 5: I rebuke that in the name of Jesus, because you
Speaker 5: said you give us sleep because.
Speaker 2: You love us.
Speaker 5: So we received sleep because you love us and rest.
Speaker 5: I asked you grant us wisdom so that we know
Speaker 5: how to rest and live in the rhythm of rest.
Speaker 5: Father also asked for those who are leaving to take
Speaker 5: the best vacation of their life. I asked that you
Speaker 5: grant them everything they need to take that vacation, and
Speaker 5: when they go, they have favor, and they experience upgrade
Speaker 5: after upgrade after upgrade. Protect them as they travel, protect
Speaker 5: them as they come back. May they enjoy the rest
Speaker 5: you provide for them in Jesus' name.
Speaker 9: Amen.
Speaker 1: Amen, Well, we are out of time, and I want
Speaker 1: to leave you with this thought. God created you to
Speaker 1: have rest in your life. And when we strive in
Speaker 1: our own strength, we fail because we are not called
Speaker 1: to live by our own strength. The Lord tells us
Speaker 1: in Matthew eleven, coming to me, all you that labor
Speaker 1: and are heavy laden.
Speaker 2: And I will give you rest if you need rest today.
Speaker 2: Maybe you don't know Jesus.
Speaker 1: The most important prayer that you could pray today is
Speaker 1: to invite him into your heart. Just say, Jesus, I
Speaker 1: believe you died on the cross for my sins. Forgive
Speaker 1: me Come into my heart today and be Lord and
Speaker 1: savior of my life.
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: That is the prayer that prepares you for eternity. And
Speaker 1: there is nothing, nothing more important than that. I always
Speaker 1: talk about my grandpa because he has such a great
Speaker 1: influence on my life.
Speaker 2: He didn't know how to pray Anna.
Speaker 1: He just said God, if you're there, God, if you're there,
Speaker 1: I need you. At nineteen years of age and God
Speaker 1: transformed his life. Well, there was a prayer line number
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Speaker 1: prayed that prayer, call us.
Speaker 2: Let us know.
Speaker 1: We'd love to send you the Book of John. The
Speaker 1: Gospel of John is a great place to start. It's
Speaker 1: our free gift to you, and it's just our way
Speaker 1: of saying we love you. We're believing God to do
Speaker 1: great things in your life. I want to thank Pastor
Speaker 1: Carrick Butler for joining us today. Be sure you pick
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Speaker 1: I still can't believe Dorothy watches Green TV.
Speaker 2: She does. Thank you so much for watching today. We'll
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Speaker 10: God bless you bout ye for today.
Speaker 6: Have you ever felt like there has to be more
Speaker 6: to your life but you can't quite figure out what
Speaker 6: it is or how to step into it. Today, Guess
Speaker 6: says that feeling isn't confusion, it's calling, and purpose isn't
Speaker 6: found by chasing success. It's discovered when you surrender to God.
Speaker 6: And she's here to discuss it today from her master class,
Speaker 6: Find Your Purpose. Welcome to Joni Table Talk. Friends from
Speaker 6: the Table. I'm your host, Rachel here with my beautiful
Speaker 6: class Dorothy Newton.
Speaker 2: Welcome.
Speaker 7: I'm so happy to be here and I'm excited because
Speaker 7: I absolutely love our guests today.
Speaker 6: We absolutely love our guests. Today we have Nicole Crank
Speaker 6: with us. Welcome to Friends of the Table.
Speaker 13: I am so excited to be here because you guys
Speaker 13: are so easy to talk to the only problem with
Speaker 13: this show is.
Speaker 2: It's going to go by so fast.
Speaker 6: So Charlie, Rina blink, and it's going to be over.
Speaker 6: One of the things I love about you, Pastor Nicole,
Speaker 6: is you're constantly pouring out everything that God has poured
Speaker 6: into you. And I know something that you're excited about
Speaker 6: is your new master class about finding your purpose. What
Speaker 6: actually caused you to start doing that?
Speaker 13: Well, it's something really really holy. My staffed you to me,
Speaker 13: he said, you need another online master class and was like, okay,
Speaker 13: so let's check with our kind of mentorship groups. What
Speaker 13: do they want to dive into? And the topic came
Speaker 13: back purpose And so my team is so great, They're like, okay,
Speaker 13: the topic is purpose. We got into chat GPT, we
Speaker 13: printed some stuff off. We're going to just record it tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Here you go. And I looked at it and just
Speaker 2: said I can't. I can't do that.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I need to spend a minute.
Speaker 2: So like how long do you can record it? Next week?
Speaker 13: I said sure, because like I thought, sure, we just
Speaker 13: do that, got on my couch.
Speaker 2: And alone with the Lord and knew.
Speaker 13: Okay, I'm not going to be able to do this
Speaker 13: next week and it's going to take a while because
Speaker 13: the first question he asked me was as I was
Speaker 13: sitting there with him, like, Okay, what am I called
Speaker 13: to do? That's what we need to know. That's what
Speaker 13: everybody needs to know, like what are what are we
Speaker 13: called to do? What am I called to do? And
Speaker 13: the Lord just met me with you're asking the wrong question,
Speaker 13: and That's when I knew, Okay, this is going to
Speaker 13: be a minute. And I'm like, okay, so what's the question,
Speaker 13: because that is that's the question. And he said, it's
Speaker 13: not what am I called to do, it's whom I
Speaker 13: called to serve? And so like what am I called
Speaker 13: to do is like you know, you get ready in
Speaker 13: the morning. Everybodys got like get ready with me video?
Speaker 2: Yes, right, And that's us.
Speaker 13: It's us looking in a mirror looking at what am
Speaker 13: I called to do?
Speaker 2: It's about me.
Speaker 13: It's about my platform, how many followers I have on
Speaker 13: social media, the impact I'm going to have, the spotlight
Speaker 13: I might have, the platform you might give me, you know,
Speaker 13: the position, the title, the corner office. Like what am
Speaker 13: I called to do? God makes it about us, And
Speaker 13: nowhere in his word doesn't really make it about us,
Speaker 13: that's right, But it's about he said, the question is
Speaker 13: who are you called to serve?
Speaker 6: Do you think that's why so many people are stuck?
Speaker 6: Because I think you know, especially I mean I think
Speaker 6: every generation really not even just my generation, but they're asking, like,
Speaker 6: what's my purpose? What am I called to do? That's
Speaker 6: the question that every one is ultimately trying to figure out,
Speaker 6: and a lot of people just feel stuck.
Speaker 2: A million percent. I mean, how many times have we
Speaker 2: set goals?
Speaker 13: And one of my goal setting someone we set our goals,
Speaker 13: and I've learned once the goals are set, the next
Speaker 13: question is why.
Speaker 2: Right, Like my goal is I want to take a
Speaker 2: vacation to tity. Okay, why? And if we.
Speaker 13: Can't come up with why, we're kind of running an
Speaker 13: empty trail. I don't know, sounds cool, Okay, then we're
Speaker 13: never going to be happy when we get there.
Speaker 2: We're not going to work hard to get there.
Speaker 13: I always say that passion is the fuel that takes
Speaker 13: you to your goal. And if we have no why,
Speaker 13: we have no passion. And that's passion. Passion is related
Speaker 13: to purpose. When I walk through my masterclass, I take
Speaker 13: people through the four p's. We put them on a
Speaker 13: chart and it really helps us narrow and zero down
Speaker 13: to what really our purpose is. And they are passion, profession, prowess,
Speaker 13: like what you're good at, and purpose. And when you
Speaker 13: take the four of those and you kind of start
Speaker 13: narrowing in on it, it like gets clearer and clearer and clearer.
Speaker 13: It just takes an hour of our time to really
Speaker 13: narrow down and go, oh my gosh, it's kind of
Speaker 13: been here the whole time.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, Because I think that's the difficult part is
Speaker 6: I think everybody you could probably say, well, I feel
Speaker 6: called to this, but when thinking about whom I called
Speaker 6: to served, that's a much more difficult question to answer.
Speaker 6: So I would ask, like, practically, for people that are
Speaker 6: watching and they're saying I want to I want to
Speaker 6: figure that out for my life, like, what are some
Speaker 6: practical steps to doing that?
Speaker 13: Well, I think you just honed in on one because
Speaker 13: I in the Mastercross, I do the four pillars of purpose.
Speaker 13: But then I talk about the three confusions, and you
Speaker 13: just hit on one of them. It's like, well, I'm
Speaker 13: gifted to do this, Like Bursy, you were gifted to saying.
Speaker 2: That's not true. We have neither one of.
Speaker 6: My services at this at this sit down right now.
Speaker 2: That would be none of us, none of us in
Speaker 2: this room. So we're not going to form a girl man,
Speaker 2: got it? Okay, But that's good too.
Speaker 13: Sometimes knowing what you're not called to it's just as
Speaker 13: important as knowing what you are called to. But one
Speaker 13: of the three confusions that the enemy really tries to
Speaker 13: work on is what we're gifted at. It's like, well,
Speaker 13: I'm gifted at speaking, so obviously I should. And then
Speaker 13: we kind of start drawing conclusions from a gifting and
Speaker 13: a gifting. Your gift is not your purpose. Your gift
Speaker 13: is one of the vehicles that your purpose will write on.
Speaker 2: That is so good.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: I heard someone say once the meaning of life is
Speaker 7: to find your gift, but the purpose is to give
Speaker 7: it away.
Speaker 2: So tell us what.
Speaker 7: Is the difference between the gift and the purpose, because
Speaker 7: there is a difference.
Speaker 2: So I was in Disney World or so.
Speaker 13: We live in South Florida and we have the resident pass.
Speaker 13: We're at one of those parks, the one was Star
Speaker 13: Wars whatever that is, and we're in the Star Wars
Speaker 13: park and there is this guy with a camera in
Speaker 13: the uniform and he's taking pictures.
Speaker 2: Now, he could have.
Speaker 13: Very well been like next please, you're no, no, that
Speaker 13: is not his mo at all. They come up, He's like, okay,
Speaker 13: take the lightsaber. Oh, and you're going to do this
Speaker 13: any positions And he gets down and he crushed down
Speaker 13: with the camera. He is living his dream. Well, okay,
Speaker 13: so his gifting is taking pictures. But his gifting is
Speaker 13: also making people comfortable, and his gifting is bringing people
Speaker 13: into an environment and changing their environment. So he's these
Speaker 13: three giftings that makes his purpose a photographer at Disney World.
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, that's not a purpose. I don't want to
Speaker 2: be a photographer Disney World.
Speaker 13: Well, first of all, if you don't want to be
Speaker 13: a photographer Disney World, it's not your purpose. Now you
Speaker 13: know another thing you check out was that's not me.
Speaker 13: But he was totally living in his purpose. He was
Speaker 13: using three giftings at one time, not to take a
Speaker 13: picture of a person, but to transform somebody's reality and
Speaker 13: give them an experience. So one of the other confusions
Speaker 13: I talk about is partial prosperity versus purpose prosperity. What
Speaker 13: I mean by that is sometimes how we define success
Speaker 13: really matters. And if we don't know how we define success,
Speaker 13: I walk people through an exercise in that if we
Speaker 13: don't know what the definition of success is for us,
Speaker 13: we don't know when we're successful. So one of the
Speaker 13: things is haven't a definition for success in your life?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 13: So our definition of success if it's like hey having
Speaker 13: a million dollar hey having a Manhattan job, Hey having
Speaker 13: a corner office. There are people we call them down
Speaker 13: and out, and those are folks that kind of everybody
Speaker 13: recognize that needs help. But then there's another group called
Speaker 13: the up and out, and it's people who look like
Speaker 13: they are living the dream or have it all, but
Speaker 13: are totally empty on the inside. Why because they have
Speaker 13: partial prosperity, they don't have purpose prosperity. So they might
Speaker 13: be making the money or doing the job, or having
Speaker 13: the title or leading the organization, but they're not fulfilling
Speaker 13: their purpose. So actually, the guy at working at disney
Speaker 13: World has a better life than the guy with a
Speaker 13: Ferrari in.
Speaker 2: The corner office because he's living his purpose.
Speaker 6: Do you think that when people rely on their gifts only,
Speaker 6: that's when burnout occurs?
Speaker 2: Because you hear people it's good.
Speaker 6: You hear people that seemingly have it all, you know,
Speaker 6: like you talked about on the outside looking in success,
Speaker 6: the perfect family, the perfect life, the perfect job, but
Speaker 6: like they're empty.
Speaker 13: That is such a great question, and I would say
Speaker 13: there's a lot of answers, but I would say one
Speaker 13: answer would be, if we build it, we have to
Speaker 13: maintain it.
Speaker 2: So why do we get burnt out?
Speaker 13: If we build the success on the ladder of because
Speaker 13: you can put your ladder against a building and you
Speaker 13: can climb the ladder with people and history and challenge
Speaker 13: on your.
Speaker 2: Back and get to the top of the ladder.
Speaker 13: But if your ladders against the wrong building, that really
Speaker 13: doesn't do us any good, and we don't feel that fulfillment.
Speaker 13: So I think burnout comes from we built it, we
Speaker 13: have to maintain it versus if the lord doesn't build
Speaker 13: the house of labor's in vain. But if the lord
Speaker 13: builds the house, he's going to help the resource, He's
Speaker 13: going to help the sustenance.
Speaker 2: He's going to help refill us as we pour out.
Speaker 2: That's so good, Nicole.
Speaker 7: You know, there's some people watching who understand what the
Speaker 7: gift is, they know their purpose, but still they choose
Speaker 7: to do nothing because fear paralyzes them. What would you
Speaker 7: say to people who are watching who are just stuck
Speaker 7: and paralyzed in fear.
Speaker 13: That is such a perceptive question. I spent a few
Speaker 13: hours with somebody yesterday that is in that position. They
Speaker 13: are incredibly gifted, but for fear of hurting a family
Speaker 13: member's feelings, for fear of my success might mean somebody
Speaker 13: else feels less.
Speaker 2: Is that wild?
Speaker 13: But that's what the enemy does to us, Like, oh,
Speaker 13: if your success, your mom is not, your daddy's not
Speaker 13: going to be your sister, brother, spouse.
Speaker 2: Whomever, like, they're not going to be happy.
Speaker 13: If we're the people in your neighborhood, like your people
Speaker 13: in your neighborhood, the people you grow up. They'll let
Speaker 13: you reach a certain level, but if you go beyond that,
Speaker 13: suddenly you're hoity to Oh you think you're better than
Speaker 13: the rest of us, and we don't want to lose
Speaker 13: what we know. So wild thing about the brain is
Speaker 13: the brain really doesn't want to work that hard, and
Speaker 13: so anything new, Like I want to make a change,
Speaker 13: but that changes so hard because the brain would rather
Speaker 13: be uncomfortable in the familiar, uncomfortable in pain. So why
Speaker 13: do I keep dating guys who aren't going to treat
Speaker 13: me right? Because when you meet the guy you recognize,
Speaker 13: your brain recognizes the traits and says, oh, we know
Speaker 13: what's going to happen here, and this is familiar, So
Speaker 13: we're going to do.
Speaker 2: This in our subconscious.
Speaker 13: By the way, in one Peter, the Bible says, God
Speaker 13: takes us out of darkness into his marvelous light. The
Speaker 13: subconscious part of the brain is dark. I believe that's
Speaker 13: where the enemy plays. So he has this darkness playground
Speaker 13: that we really have to pray that God helps illuminate
Speaker 13: with his light. So we walked into this renewed light.
Speaker 13: And that's what I think you guys are doing here today.
Speaker 13: So we're making these subconscious decisions to stay familiar in
Speaker 13: pain versus saying, Okay, I know I don't want to
Speaker 13: do this at my core, but I know it's going
Speaker 13: to be better for me. I know it's going to
Speaker 13: be better for me because and then we have to
Speaker 13: set up those wins and why it is better. And
Speaker 13: then once we even on a list on a piece
Speaker 13: of paper, once we can see here's all the reasons
Speaker 13: why it's going to be better if I do succeed,
Speaker 13: and they might think less of themselves, but I'll be
Speaker 13: able to help them, I'll be able to help my family,
Speaker 13: I'll be able to bring an income, I'll be able
Speaker 13: to feel purpose, I won't feel depressed anymore. Depressed people
Speaker 13: a lot of times are full of fear of if
Speaker 13: I do step out, what if something bad happens.
Speaker 2: Yes, so there's no way to win.
Speaker 6: Do you think that the key then is a mindset shift.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 13: Tell me about So tell me about because you came
Speaker 13: to that yourself. So tell me about the mind shift
Speaker 13: set shift.
Speaker 2: You're thinking about.
Speaker 6: Well, I just think that, you know, if you don't
Speaker 6: think you can, you won't. And I think that if
Speaker 6: you're stuck in fear, they're never going to act. Always
Speaker 6: say it's easier to act your way into a feeling
Speaker 6: than it is to feel your way into an action. Yeah,
Speaker 6: And so I just think that probably what needs to
Speaker 6: change if you want to overcome the thing that's holding
Speaker 6: you back is telling your hell that you can.
Speaker 2: I love the holding you back.
Speaker 13: In the book I'm releasing breaking limiting beliefs, I talk
Speaker 13: about held identity and health identity is different than identity
Speaker 13: because our identity.
Speaker 2: Is who God creates to be.
Speaker 13: Our identity is who we are at our core. And
Speaker 13: we can wake up in our identity and after breakfast
Speaker 13: have a held identity of like we can wake up
Speaker 13: mom and like I am prepared for this day and
Speaker 13: I'm going to take care of the family. I don't
Speaker 13: even do my things, and by after breakfast we can
Speaker 13: feel like our health identity can be failure's parent. It's
Speaker 13: not real, it's not true, it's an experience, but it's
Speaker 13: what we feel at that moment, so we hold on.
Speaker 13: And then what happens when we're holding onto an identity
Speaker 13: Our brain filters everything through that identity. So even though
Speaker 13: we are mom and we're we're doing a pretty okay job,
Speaker 13: if we feel like failed parent. The problem is our
Speaker 13: health identity makes us act like failed parent. And then
Speaker 13: as we act like failed parent, we're making all our
Speaker 13: decisions based on what would a failed parent do, and
Speaker 13: the enemy helps us go down, down, down, and then
Speaker 13: we're like.
Speaker 2: I can't do this, I'm not o capable.
Speaker 13: And that's where people start having really desperate thoughts. It's
Speaker 13: because of my identity that the enemy has suggested to us.
Speaker 13: We've held onto because it feels right, versus stopping with
Speaker 13: that renewed mindset and saying, Okay, I feel like a
Speaker 13: failed parent, but God says that I can do all
Speaker 13: things through him, and I might not be able to
Speaker 13: do this by myself, but God said I can do
Speaker 13: it with him, So okay, God, You're gonna have to
Speaker 13: carry the weight right now because not so good at it,
Speaker 13: So carry the weight. You're the glory love for my head.
Speaker 13: Lift me off the ground and help me out, Jesus.
Speaker 13: And now that renewed mind, that mindset shift that you
Speaker 13: talked about, helps get us out of the darkness into
Speaker 13: that light. And now we start acting, We start living
Speaker 13: up to what God thinks of us instead of living
Speaker 13: down to what the enemy thinks of us.
Speaker 2: It's so good, so good.
Speaker 7: You know. I met this person once who she was
Speaker 7: in high school, she was a janitor at a hospital,
Speaker 7: and then fast forward she was a doctor at that
Speaker 7: same hospital. And her story was remarkable because you could
Speaker 7: see how you know, like and she wasn't a Christian
Speaker 7: at all, but she understood later that God had plans
Speaker 7: for her. Even though when she was in high school
Speaker 7: she was a janitor of that hospital, she couldn't see
Speaker 7: herself where she was you know where she is today
Speaker 7: as a doctor.
Speaker 2: Because I think.
Speaker 7: Sometimes God takes us on a journey, an unknown journey,
Speaker 7: and always should do and have to do is trust
Speaker 7: them so that you know life can be fulfilled. What
Speaker 7: would you say to people who are constantly in doubt,
Speaker 7: you know, which is different from fear, but they can't
Speaker 7: see the plans you know, and it's hard to trust
Speaker 7: when you don't know.
Speaker 2: What would you say to that?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 13: I love when you say that you can't see the plans,
Speaker 13: because Man has his plans and God directs his steps.
Speaker 13: Isaiah fifty five says, my ways are not your ways,
Speaker 13: My thoughts are not your thoughts, which sometimes I don't
Speaker 13: like thosether times I think, thank God, we're not thinking
Speaker 13: of the same Jesus, because I need you. But then
Speaker 13: to quote Einstein, and I'm not going to quote him right,
Speaker 13: but it's along the lines of if you judge a
Speaker 13: fish on its ability to climb a tree and a
Speaker 13: rabbit on its ability to swim, are they both failures?
Speaker 13: And the answer that is no, they're not failures. We
Speaker 13: just haven't put them in their right seat in their purpose.
Speaker 13: Fish swim, bunny, rabbits run in the grass. Your friend
Speaker 13: is a doctor and might have been a miserable janitor.
Speaker 13: It actually reminds me of a story of a gentleman
Speaker 13: who worked at Starbucks.
Speaker 2: He was a janitor at Starbucks, and he was.
Speaker 13: A really terrible janitor because the store was dirty because
Speaker 13: he was so busy talking to all the people. So
Speaker 13: they took him from janitor. They put him behind the counter.
Speaker 13: Everybody loved him so much they came to the store
Speaker 13: for him. But he was terrible making coffee because he
Speaker 13: took too long forgot their orders, so that they kept
Speaker 13: moving around.
Speaker 2: With positions, and the dude fit nowhere right.
Speaker 13: So you could feel like a failure because you don't
Speaker 13: fit in your current environment. But maybe it's because you
Speaker 13: were not created for this time. Maybe God created you
Speaker 13: for a future that you haven't seen yet. And so
Speaker 13: this guy, they finally realize, he's great with the customers.
Speaker 2: How do we task him the customers.
Speaker 13: He remembered their birthdays, he knew all their names, he
Speaker 13: knew all their kids' names. So they put him his
Speaker 13: head of customer experience, over the store, over the district,
Speaker 13: over the region, and he became the vice president of
Speaker 13: customer experience at Starbucks. Dude was a janitor. The enemy
Speaker 13: will tell us you can't even be a janitor. You
Speaker 13: are such a failure, you can't even sweep a floor.
Speaker 13: Versus you are such a success in the wrong lane
Speaker 13: that you're called to be a vice president of a
Speaker 13: huge organization, but you're too busy trying to get good
Speaker 13: at sweeping a floor. So when things aren't working out,
Speaker 13: sometimes it's like, Okay, check it off the list. Maybe
Speaker 13: this isn't my thing, right, So what is I think?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's encouraging because maybe it's just that
Speaker 6: you're not in the right place. It doesn't mean that
Speaker 6: you're a failure. It just means that God's got something
Speaker 6: different for you.
Speaker 13: And there's the four stages of learning, right, So the
Speaker 13: four stages of learning. The first stage of learning is
Speaker 13: I don't know what I don't know, and that's where
Speaker 13: the brain freaks out and we have to learn to
Speaker 13: give ourselves egr extra grace required anytime we do something new.
Speaker 13: I have a two year old grandson. His name is Lennox,
Speaker 13: and he is the cutest thing on a planet.
Speaker 2: Now. He still wears a diaper and he messes his
Speaker 2: diaper up on a regular basis. Nobody's mad about it.
Speaker 2: Nobody is mad about it. Now. If I did the
Speaker 2: exact same thing.
Speaker 6: We would have a problem.
Speaker 13: We would have a problem, right Why Because I've had
Speaker 13: the time to figure it out. He doesn't even know
Speaker 13: what he doesn't know right now, he doesn't even know
Speaker 13: he's not supposed to use the bathroom like that. But
Speaker 13: then we walk through the other stages of learning. So
Speaker 13: sometimes when we don't know what we don't know to
Speaker 13: bring reasonists and like I don't want to go there,
Speaker 13: I don't know what happening over there. You just say, okay,
Speaker 13: give yourself some grace, give your time, Like, well, I
Speaker 13: tried to do customer relations with Starbucks and I don't
Speaker 13: know if I'm.
Speaker 2: Any good at that either.
Speaker 13: Give you give yourself a second to learn it, practice it,
Speaker 13: hone your skills, develop your craft. Because even if you
Speaker 13: have a gift, if you have a vocal gift, but
Speaker 13: that gift is not trained, not harness, you don't get
Speaker 13: to release it on the world in a place where other.
Speaker 2: People get to hear it.
Speaker 6: I love that you guys, stay tuned with us. Will
Speaker 6: be right back after this break with more from Pastor
Speaker 6: nickel Crank.
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Speaker 6: Welcome back to Prints from the Table. We're here with
Speaker 6: pastor Nicole Krank discussing her masterclass Buying Your Purpose, and
Speaker 6: I love one of the things that you talk about
Speaker 6: is that Genesis actually gives us a blueprint for purpose.
Speaker 6: Can you share about that?
Speaker 13: That is the coolest thing about God is he doesn't
Speaker 13: leave us in the dark, like all the framework is there,
Speaker 13: we just got to find it. And the very first
Speaker 13: thing he told us to do as humans is Genesis
Speaker 13: one twenty seven. He's like, Okay, here's the five things
Speaker 13: you need to do. It says, be fruitful, multiply, subdo
Speaker 13: the earth, replenish it, and have dominion. So I was like,
Speaker 13: oh my gosh, here's a blueprint. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 13: I know what this means before I fruitful got it,
Speaker 13: multiply got it.
Speaker 2: So I thought I had it, and there was just this.
Speaker 13: Kind of nagging feeling like you better check that out
Speaker 13: a little bit. So I went back to the original
Speaker 13: language and I started looking at the word fruitful and
Speaker 13: figured out I don't know what the word fruitful meant
Speaker 13: at all. I thought fruitful meant bear fruit. It turns
Speaker 13: out in the original language it means be strong enough
Speaker 13: to bear fruit. It means nourish yourself, get fertilized, be strong.
Speaker 13: So like that's why the Bible tells us, you know,
Speaker 13: first thing in the morning, early, will I seek thee?
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 13: That's becoming fruitful, that's being nice enough to see other people,
Speaker 13: because if I don't see Jesus, you don't want to
Speaker 13: see me. Eat right, it's recenter. It's renewing our mind
Speaker 13: like you were talking about earlier. It gives us our mindset,
Speaker 13: it gives us our heart, it helps us reflect Jesus,
Speaker 13: so we're strong enough to actually bear fruit.
Speaker 2: And then the next thing is multiply.
Speaker 6: So you're telling me to have more babies.
Speaker 2: I would love for you to have more babies. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And then talk my daughter and love into it.
Speaker 6: We have this thing where I go and then she goes, no,
Speaker 6: I tag.
Speaker 2: You're it so top top multiply, multiply.
Speaker 13: But in the multiplication, you know you would think fruitful
Speaker 13: with me mu apply, but it doesn't. It means be
Speaker 13: strong enough to multiply, and then multiply. Multiplication is a
Speaker 13: natural offset of being fruitful. So it's a command and
Speaker 13: it's a natural next step. You're fruitful. What does a
Speaker 13: tree do? It bears fruit? If you open a piece
Speaker 13: of fruit, what does have inside seed? If you plant
Speaker 13: the seed, you bear more fruit, so you get multiply.
Speaker 13: And then it was subdue the earth. I was like,
Speaker 13: subdu I'm a mo I got you kids, clean it up, actorate.
Speaker 13: But it doesn't mean that at all. It means organized.
Speaker 13: It means set right. So it means, okay, don't use
Speaker 13: your mom boys, but instead look at the world around
Speaker 13: and put my world in order. So for me, it
Speaker 13: might mean if subdue might mean a clean up my closet,
Speaker 13: subdo might mean put my kitchen in order.
Speaker 2: Subdo you might mean clean up my thinking every day.
Speaker 13: Subdue can mean something a little bit different. But it's
Speaker 13: not chop chop, it's put things in order.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 13: And then after we subdue the earth, now we replenish
Speaker 13: and replenished me has always meant mycomes sifteeth. Can I
Speaker 13: have a little more like replenish my cop fill me up, lord,
Speaker 13: But replenish doesn't mean us at all. That's fruitful. We've
Speaker 13: got fruitful, so we're full. Replenished means go into other
Speaker 13: spaces and fill them up. Go to a hurting friend,
Speaker 13: have an ear, Yes, go to a place where work
Speaker 13: is crazy, and be the calm, be the peace. So
Speaker 13: we replenish the earth that way. And then last thing
Speaker 13: is have dominion.
Speaker 2: Again, I'm like, I got this dominion.
Speaker 13: No, we're in my space, except for have dominion means
Speaker 13: to rule with grace. It means to set direction, but
Speaker 13: not come in as an iron fist, but instead one
Speaker 13: that takes authority of God and the earth for the
Speaker 13: things of God, but in a way that is loving,
Speaker 13: gentle kind, with empathy and compassion.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Nicole.
Speaker 7: One of the best ways that we can find our
Speaker 7: gifts and understand what that purpose is. It's to say
Speaker 7: Christ in our lives.
Speaker 9: Would you lead us.
Speaker 2: In a salvation prayer? We will repeat after you. Please.
Speaker 13: You know I probably wouldn't be here today. No, I'm
Speaker 13: going to change that line. I wouldn't be here today
Speaker 13: if Jesus was not Lord of my life.
Speaker 2: When I was in.
Speaker 13: Fourth grade, I was molested and Jesus became my Lord
Speaker 13: and savior and I would not have survived the wrath
Speaker 13: of the other if I didn't have Jesus. So the something,
Speaker 13: there's something missing in my life. That something is Jesus,
Speaker 13: and all we have to do is put him first
Speaker 13: in our life, admit that we can't live without him.
Speaker 13: We're going to do an oral contract. It's called prayer,
Speaker 13: and just repeat these words after me. Dear God, God,
Speaker 13: I need you, I need you to lead my life, to.
Speaker 6: Lead my life.
Speaker 2: I'm a sinner.
Speaker 6: I'm a sinner that is now, that is now, saved
Speaker 6: by grace, saved by grace you gave Jesus. You gave
Speaker 6: Jesus to die for me, to die for me so.
Speaker 13: That I can live for you, so that I can
Speaker 13: live for you.
Speaker 2: I accept you.
Speaker 13: I accept you as my lord, and say as my
Speaker 13: Lord and savor in Jesus name.
Speaker 2: And Jesus name. Amen.
Speaker 7: Amen, Thank you. Pastor Nicole, thank you so much. If
Speaker 7: you prayed that prayer, we want to say Welcome, Welcome
Speaker 7: to the family of God. Please let us know about
Speaker 7: your decision by calling us at one eight hundred three
Speaker 7: two nine zero zero two nine.
Speaker 2: As you a free gift to you, we will.
Speaker 7: Send you a copy of the Book of John to
Speaker 7: help you grow in your new journey of faith.
Speaker 6: We're so excited for everyone that prayed that prayer. Welcome,
Speaker 6: as Dorothy said, to the family of God. That's the
Speaker 6: best decision that you'll ever make. And I know that
Speaker 6: the Lord transformed your life. And look at everything you're
Speaker 6: doing to help other people. Why do you think, Nicole?
Speaker 6: It's it feels like oftentimes the thing that we know
Speaker 6: we're called to do our purpose, who were called to serve,
Speaker 6: always feels like the hardest thing to do.
Speaker 13: That's one of the clearest ways. And people ask, you know,
Speaker 13: is this the Lord? Am I supposed to do this?
Speaker 13: A lot of times I'll ask him is this something
Speaker 13: you want to do with They're like yes, And then
Speaker 13: I'm like, then maybe not, because the Lord isn't pleased
Speaker 13: unless we're walking by faith. Right, It says in Hebrews.
Speaker 13: Without faith, it's impossible to please God. What does faith mean?
Speaker 13: Faith means I don't feel capable. I don't feel like
Speaker 13: I'm the right choice. I feel like God's making a
Speaker 13: mistake by choosing me. That means we usually don't want
Speaker 13: to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So when.
Speaker 13: Somebody says and when somebody says, this is God for
Speaker 13: my life, I say, do you want to do it?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 13: Probably God, because we don't feel like we're enough to
Speaker 13: fill it. Up.
Speaker 2: We know we need God to do it with us.
Speaker 6: What would you say to the person that's in that
Speaker 6: place right now to encourage them to move forward and
Speaker 6: everything that God has called them to do.
Speaker 13: I would say, Baby, you ain't enough. You ain't never
Speaker 13: been enough, You ain't never going to be enough, and
Speaker 13: it's okay. You weren't created to be enough. You were
Speaker 13: not created to be whole without Jesus. God wants you
Speaker 13: to want him more than song I want you to
Speaker 13: want me. God wants you to want him. He needs
Speaker 13: you to need him. He loves you. He loves you
Speaker 13: when you messed up. He loves you. He loved you
Speaker 13: before the getting of the earth. He loves you on
Speaker 13: your worst day. He loves you when you don't love yourself,
Speaker 13: and he loves you when you feel like nobody else
Speaker 13: loves you. He did not change his mind and you
Speaker 13: were created for this. So I know you don't feel
Speaker 13: capable or prepared. God just want you to step out
Speaker 13: and say, Okay, God, I trust you and I'm going
Speaker 13: to step into this.
Speaker 6: I know so many of you guys have been encouraged
Speaker 6: by Pastor Nicole talking about purpose for those that are
Speaker 6: interested and getting involved in your master class. How can
Speaker 6: they sign up?
Speaker 13: Just go to nicolecrank dot com forward slash Purpose.
Speaker 2: It's seven sessions.
Speaker 13: Some of them are short at fifteen minutes, some of
Speaker 13: as long as like thirty. Comes with a little workbook
Speaker 13: to help work you through those steps. And then when
Speaker 13: you finish the class, you have to send me what.
Speaker 2: You know is your purpose, because I almost celebrate it
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 6: I believe so many people today are going to find
Speaker 6: their purpose, and I encourage you. We barely scratch the surface.
Speaker 6: So if you want to dig deeper, you want to
Speaker 6: learn more, You want to discover what the Lord has
Speaker 6: called you to do, and you want somebody to help
Speaker 6: you figure that all out, because that is a really
Speaker 6: tall order. Pastor Nicole is the perfect person to do that. Hey,
Speaker 6: you guys are out of time today, but I want
Speaker 6: you to remember your life is not an accident. You
Speaker 6: were created on purpose for a purpose. And if you're
Speaker 6: still breathing, God is not finished with your story. He's
Speaker 6: inviting you right now to step into the fullness of
Speaker 6: what He's called you too. If you need prayer today,
Speaker 6: please call our tool free number one eight one hundred
Speaker 6: three two nine zero zero two nine. Our prayer partners
Speaker 6: are standing by, ready to pray and agree with you.
Speaker 6: And I want to thank Pastor Nicole for joining us today.
Speaker 6: As we said, be sure to check out her masterclass
Speaker 6: find your purpose for where you can visit her online
Speaker 6: at Nicolecrank dot com. As always, make sure to follow
Speaker 6: us on social media, subscribe to our YouTube channel, and
Speaker 6: listen to the Joni Table Talk podcast, available now on
Speaker 6: all major platforms. Thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 6: We'll see you next time. Bye bye for today.