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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast Initiate Phase three. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by a

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Speaker 1: room surprisingly filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wesling, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Russ. What's up? Eyes? Is it surprising? Well? First

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Speaker 1: of all, Mr Mann, Mr paternity leave, I thought that

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Speaker 1: you would be spending time with young Walker. Instead, you said,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get back in here and talk more. Past

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Speaker 1: people say they love their job. I mean it. I

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Speaker 1: want to be here. I mean plus, ellis my daughter.

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Speaker 1: She's taking her nap right now. It's a good time.

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Speaker 1: Just and I miss you guys. I want to talk

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Speaker 1: to Oh that's sweet. I've gotten some distressing text from

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Speaker 1: your wife being like where's Greg stop? Have you maybe

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Speaker 1: had too much time? Cell phone number? I'm refreshed, well,

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Speaker 1: Michael Bennett knows it. Um, I'm refreshed after a couple

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Speaker 1: of days off and four days sober now, so I'm

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Speaker 1: feeling really good out myself. How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 1: West and and Mark, you both look healthy as well.

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Speaker 1: I slept twelve hours last night, which was more than

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Speaker 1: I slept all of Super week. Fine, West, actually is.

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Speaker 1: He's been cranking right through. So you you're just hours

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Speaker 1: away from your three day week and coming up. What

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Speaker 1: is going to happen with you? Big plans, a lot

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Speaker 1: of cornhole? Well you know, did they involve the Santa

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Speaker 1: Monica Police? And Mark? You you are wearing let's talk

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Speaker 1: about Mark. Uh he's he's wearing a striping McK stryperson

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Speaker 1: but apparently not. And then under the underneath it a

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Speaker 1: free NFL dot com T shirt. I just don't care anymore.

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Speaker 1: I see you've done as much laundry as I have,

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Speaker 1: and this is a throwaway shirt. But when you go

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Speaker 1: unbuttoned with T shirt underneath, it can be it's more

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Speaker 1: like just a rag that you'd wash your car with.

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Speaker 1: Mark is single handedly trying to bring back the mid

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Speaker 1: nineties open button down shirt with a T shirt underneath type. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's when I stopped paying attention to a little Coby.

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Speaker 1: It's a little kobany, but that's sorry. I'm I'm a

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Speaker 1: little too much like a music legend in my dressing

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Speaker 1: in the off season, alright, So you would think we'd

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Speaker 1: have nothing to talk about, But that's not that's not

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Speaker 1: even close. In fact, you know, screw you for thinking that,

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Speaker 1: because we got a lot to talk about. All right,

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Speaker 1: this is uh, this is our first post super Bowl show,

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Speaker 1: Greg sitting again. Maybe it's easy to get to work

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Speaker 1: when you could fly around on a throne of ease. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna deny it. That is also I would

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Speaker 1: not have pegged Greg as an aviator sunglasses guy. He

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Speaker 1: sits on his throne of these. That is weird. Throwne

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Speaker 1: of these music today, the second shot of that, I

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Speaker 1: was thinking more like the the Harvest bring Bam Bam damp.

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Speaker 1: There's something more a little jaunty throne Game of Thrones

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Speaker 1: music game with Throwne. Season five is back soon. It's

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Speaker 1: you know, okay working on I can no longer deny

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Speaker 1: the throne of ease. But part part of what's making

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Speaker 1: it so easy is the NFL network just replaying the

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Speaker 1: game over and over in the NonStop Patriots programming. It's

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Speaker 1: it's been on NonStop, but it's been great for us

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Speaker 1: because Dana Notorious, he'll blast his television like volume is

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Speaker 1: the only one in the room off the entire week

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Speaker 1: because you cannot stomach a second of it. Well, you

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Speaker 1: did say we made when we're planning this, uh, and

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Speaker 1: that was unnecessary. Um, I will say that when we

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Speaker 1: were planning the show this morning that that Greg one

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Speaker 1: of his takeaways. And we're gonna talk about a little

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Speaker 1: more about the game. The big Patriots win is that

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Speaker 1: a normal game. And is that crazy, Well, it was

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Speaker 1: crazy assessment. I feel like it's stuck with me more

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Speaker 1: It's a lot just football talking about that play called

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll's comments, Belichick's comments. I'm saying all these comments

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Speaker 1: up Gregg's argument, people are writing about things that are

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Speaker 1: germane to discussion, whereas in previous years other websites are

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Speaker 1: just trying to crank out like p FT level content

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Speaker 1: we have to talk about the Super bowlers NonStop analysis

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Speaker 1: back into super Bowl forty nine in a in a segment,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna call one last thing I have any more,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a four hour podcast today. We're also

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Speaker 1: gonna hit up West's big old top twenty three, top

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Speaker 1: in behind the glass to day going on, guys, And yeah,

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Speaker 1: Let's go. And that was from the NFL Films recap

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Speaker 1: believe the argument was happening. It was like how much

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Speaker 1: of a fan Nick was the Bengals? And Nick said

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Speaker 1: he wasn't, and West said, you still were. There was

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Speaker 1: a lot of there was some heat there, uh, Nick. Nick.

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Speaker 1: Within a couple of minutes of meeting me, said, hey,

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Speaker 1: I listened to your podcast finally on Tuesday, and I

434
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Speaker 1: was like, oh, really, it's like it sucked. He's listened

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Speaker 1: to many. I thought, that's the first one. And then

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Speaker 1: then we talked about we started talking about hair and uh,

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Speaker 1: and Nick has hair, but it's not all the way

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Speaker 1: there at this point. And he pointed his head and said,

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Speaker 1: this is what Wes's hair would look like if he

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Speaker 1: grew it out, which I found interesting. The point to

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Speaker 1: my head and tell him that's what his head's gonna

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Speaker 1: look like in four years. Nick is the potstre I've

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Speaker 1: met all the brothers. He's I don't know what we

444
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Speaker 1: could compare him to. Well, when I hung out with Yea,

445
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Speaker 1: he would whisper in my ear. When I was with

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00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: all the Westley brothers and he's like, go over and

447
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,959
Speaker 1: tell Westley and brothers, SI brother be this and just

448
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 1: just stand back and watching Jordan Lebron and then bang,

449
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: forty eight minutes later, they're done. Phil was the one

450
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Speaker 1: who instigated that Nick is the one who likes to

451
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Speaker 1: argue who would win in a brawl between the Westling

452
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Speaker 1: brothers and the wall Bergs. I'm taking the Walbergs. I'm

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Speaker 1: going Bergs are soft man. Six of them are soft mark,

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Speaker 1: like pretty big. They're on the Super Bowl. We've got

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Speaker 1: a wild card. Yeah, who actually I think are going that?

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Speaker 1: Uh say no more? All right? Moving on the Redskins.

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Speaker 1: The Redskins, the Washington Redskins wrote a letter to their

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Speaker 1: fans entitled or was entered with a greeting, your premium

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Speaker 1: club mender club member, I'm sorry, I can't talk, uh,

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Speaker 1: and then it goes into a general intro and then

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Speaker 1: it goes a little like this. Head coach Jake Gruden,

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Speaker 1: new general manager Scott McLaughlin, and defensive coordinator Joe Barry

463
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Speaker 1: will lead a nucleus of Ryan Kerrigan, the Sean Jackson,

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Speaker 1: plus Pro bowlers Trent Williams and Alfred Morris. The Redskins

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Speaker 1: are poised to rebound next season. Someone's missing from that

466
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Speaker 1: graph of stars on the team, and his name is

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Speaker 1: Robert Griffin, the third. This seems this all seems something

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Speaker 1: type type of story. It's a nothing story. But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, it's like, come on, you don't even

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Speaker 1: put the guy in the paragraph anymore. The person who

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Speaker 1: wrote that letter obviously watched Redskins film last year. Well,

472
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Speaker 1: it's a team that can't get out of it's some

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Speaker 1: way because you have to know, wait a minute, when

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Speaker 1: we do this and we put these in them in

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Speaker 1: the mail and send them out and it gets you know,

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Speaker 1: the Washington Post catches winning this immediate news story that

477
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Speaker 1: oh again, you know, we're not showing support of your quarterback.

478
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Speaker 1: What team wouldn't put the quarterback. He's not the it's

479
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Speaker 1: not the quarterback. So I do think these sort of

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Speaker 1: letters don't get sent out without approval from either A

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Speaker 1: Gruden or Bruce Allen or whoever it is. And the

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Speaker 1: reality is there's a chance at best that Robert Griffin

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Speaker 1: the thirds of Week one starter there, So why I

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Speaker 1: put them they're not gonna put you know, I just

485
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Speaker 1: might avoid, like I'd write the letter in a different way. Right,

486
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Speaker 1: four players can leave him out. Did you realize as

487
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Speaker 1: a PR guy, this is gonna blow up in our face?

488
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Speaker 1: I get it. It just to me, it just good

489
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Speaker 1: the obvious that that he is totally up in the air.

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Speaker 1: Robert Griffin the third in terms of his status. They

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Speaker 1: don't really count on him for anything. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the way that they wrote this thing drove me nuts

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Speaker 1: writing the Post because they capitalized general manager and head

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Speaker 1: coats like a grammatical associated AP style guide. Nightmare unfolding

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Speaker 1: with this authoring real quick around the room r G

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Speaker 1: three Week one starter in Washington, Mark yes or no,

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Speaker 1: I'll go yes, just because I don't have a better option.

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Speaker 1: I'm going yes. I'm gonna go yes. But it speaks

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Speaker 1: to exactly why he's then you're taking the field. That's

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. They're gonna do every hanging their power

501
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Speaker 1: to make him the week one starter, and then he's

502
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Speaker 1: going to do everything in his power to play like

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Speaker 1: he has been for the when overcome that What a

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Speaker 1: difference in off seasons between Wesselene rhetoric and I didn't

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Speaker 1: even know what sport he was playing land here. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't football, all right, that's what's happening. By the way,

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Speaker 1: this was the highest one late last thing. This is

508
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Speaker 1: the highest rated super Bowl ever. And I bring that

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Speaker 1: up because usually in the whenever they you learned that

510
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: nugget it. It's the show beats the Mash finale. And

511
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 1: then West tweeted today that he watched like four episodes

512
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Speaker 1: of Mash this morning, which I thought was really funny.

513
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Speaker 1: I hated that I watched Mass this morning. I did

514
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Speaker 1: that show growing up because it was always taking the

515
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Speaker 1: play after Yeah, there could be some great cartoon on

516
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Speaker 1: at their school, like you know, Scooby Doo or Tom

517
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Speaker 1: and Jerry or Matt. Whenever Mash came on in my

518
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Speaker 1: house that depressing song that was my mom was like,

519
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Speaker 1: it's over, TV's done, it's nighttime. It was. It was

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Speaker 1: the end of the d w P i X in

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Speaker 1: New York would use it as filler. So after Yankee Game,

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Speaker 1: if they had to get to the next show, they

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Speaker 1: put on Mash for a couple of hours. That's when

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Speaker 1: you knew to switch a chat. I hated that sign

525
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Speaker 1: exactly to it just was kind of rings on many changes.

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Speaker 1: I just saw that and now I felt like Mash

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Speaker 1: was attacking me, Like, no matter what channel you switched to,

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Speaker 1: that stupid sig West is the only friend I have

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Speaker 1: that would watch Man. Totally curious, and I gave it

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Speaker 1: another shot this morning, and people thought I was excellent.

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Speaker 1: People love the writing is fantastic, the acting is good.

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Speaker 1: It's a great show. So West sleeps twelve hours, wakes

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Speaker 1: up at like seven am and he says, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know what I want to do this morning watch

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Speaker 1: for masses back to back. That's normally when I would

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Speaker 1: just turn on game, rewind and knock out a couple

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Speaker 1: of games and I felt some freedom. I'll just they

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Speaker 1: got the coaches film of this game up, I'm taking

539
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: And if if we're doing TV reviews, everyone, if you're

540
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Speaker 1: an NFL fanny like comedy, watch the k and Peel

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl special. That was really funny, legitimately good titty

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Speaker 1: you see that I had done. I haven't seen that

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Speaker 1: show yet though. Okay, that's pretty good. Cool, but mashes

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Speaker 1: good though. All right, let's move on. Let's go back

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Speaker 1: to the game, super Bowl forty nine. One last thing,

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Speaker 1: but in Greg's case, many last things. Uh So let's

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Speaker 1: talk about because we got into did a nice forty

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00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: three minute show, nice and tight after the after the

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Speaker 1: game from the press box at University of Phoenix Stadium.

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Speaker 1: So let's now maybe touch on things that we didn't

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Speaker 1: touch on Sunday or that have come up since then. Greg,

552
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Speaker 1: since you have a lot to get to, you get

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Speaker 1: us going. One last thing. Well, I'll start with the

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00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: Dante height Ower play on the second to last Seahawks

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Speaker 1: offensive play of the game. Marshawn Lynch runs for four

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Speaker 1: yards gets it down to the one. This is where

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00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: coaches film does help, because if you watch that game

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00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: from the overhead angle and you stop it at any

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00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: point right after they give the ball, the Lynch for

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Speaker 1: about the next couple of seconds. I swear, if they

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Speaker 1: run that play eight times and they have it blocked

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Speaker 1: like it is or ten times, he's gonna get in.

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Speaker 1: Eight times, everyone's blocked. He's got a big tie m lane.

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Speaker 1: High Tower is getting not held but blocked by Okung

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Speaker 1: and he's the only one with even a chance. Height

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Speaker 1: Tower dives to the left of Oku and kind of

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Speaker 1: shakes the tackle, gets Lynch in the knee and gets

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Speaker 1: him right down. So if Lynch breaks that tackle or

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Speaker 1: high Tower doesn't disengage and kind of make a last

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Speaker 1: chance diving effort. If you watch how that thing was

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Speaker 1: set up, it looks like he's gonna walk in. And

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Speaker 1: this is a Lynch, a guy who breaks tackles routinely,

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Speaker 1: and Lynch just kind of mean. Height Tower just kind

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Speaker 1: of knife down and hit him right in the right

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Speaker 1: spot in the knee. It's an amazing play that got lost,

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00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: and it's understandable, but it got lost, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be thinking about that every time I see

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Speaker 1: Dante hight Tower and make a play for the rest

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Speaker 1: of his career. That's he's the guy that did that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Dante. And if you big gave Lynch the

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Speaker 1: ball again, he was gonna score touch probably probably, but

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Speaker 1: but it's just it's something you couldn't have appreciated live.

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Speaker 1: And they actually co credited the tackle with high Tower

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Speaker 1: and airs, but airs just kind of fell on him

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Speaker 1: after it was all over. It was an unbelievable play.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts go ahead with uh uh. You know. I

587
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: remember when when the Seahawks young Seahawks team lost in

588
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Speaker 1: the Falcons to the playoffs a couple of years ago,

589
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: and the anecdote that came out was that even in

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Speaker 1: the tunnel in the stadium walking off the field, Russell

591
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: Wilson was already coming up to people being like, we're

592
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: gonna get back. We're gonna get back, you know. And

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I don't know if I buy this.

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Speaker 1: I get it, just I get it. You're old mannic

595
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: and you're a great You're a great student of the

596
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: game and everything. But I'll say, you know that defeat,

597
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: was young in his career. After what happened in this game,

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Speaker 1: when you find out that he was he was. He

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00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: sat down with Carol and they talked for ages after

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00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: this thing, and he was texting him at four in

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Speaker 1: the morning and he came out I thought on Twitter

602
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Speaker 1: and also just in his statements in general, I loved

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Speaker 1: Wilson's not every Sea how Hawk handled this game well,

604
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Speaker 1: and we got that first hand with Michael Bennett dealing

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Speaker 1: with Dan. We got it with the fight at the

606
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: end of this thing. But Russell Wilson, who has to

607
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Speaker 1: set the tone for the offseason, And maybe you think

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00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: it's cheesy, I don't. I thought that he's a great

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Speaker 1: leader and there aren't a lot of we've seen with

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Speaker 1: guys like Manzil and other quarterbacks that are young that

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Speaker 1: don't know how to be a leader. If I'm a

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Speaker 1: Seahawks fan, I think they're going to get back to

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Speaker 1: this game, if not next season, certainly down the road,

614
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Speaker 1: just like the Patriots came back from Super Bowl defeats

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Speaker 1: because of what they have in Russell Wilson in their

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Speaker 1: coach and a couple of core players that I think

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Speaker 1: genuinely this is a talented team, the best team in

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Speaker 1: the NFC still, and I think Wilson is gonna win

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Speaker 1: multiple Super Bowls. Just just to back up Max point,

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Speaker 1: there a lot of times take ours out of anything

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Speaker 1: you need. Um. The Patriots of the team often compare

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Speaker 1: it to the Spurs, right, but this is one scenario

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Speaker 1: in which the Seahawks in almost an exact same situation

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Speaker 1: and the Spurs were in the NBA Finals. I know, Danny,

625
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: you don't like cross sports. No, I do, like he does.

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Speaker 1: He's the one that does like. But this is Mark alright,

627
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Speaker 1: and he's the host. I am not. Brian Billick was

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Speaker 1: the e J here. What am I doing here? Anyway?

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Speaker 1: Point is Seahawks have a star just like Duncan, who

630
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Speaker 1: was levelheaded, who can see through this hardship and then

631
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Speaker 1: hopefully come on better next season. So in this Duncan, Wilson,

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Speaker 1: Jeter Brady, I like it. I like where we're going

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Speaker 1: with all this, Odell Beckham, Michael Jordan's and they're a

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00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: really young team. They were one of the youngest Super

635
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Speaker 1: Bowl champions. Ever, somehow the Patriots average ages the youngest

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion of all time, which is great. A

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Speaker 1: ton of young it's crazy to me. I'm totally on

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Speaker 1: board with that. Go ahead. No, No, I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: I'm on board with it too, because so many of

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00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: their great players are signed long term. That things will

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Speaker 1: change when Russell Wilson becomes highest paid quarterback in the league.

642
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: Uh So there will be more challenges. But but Russell

643
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: Wilson is fun. He's cheesy, but in a good way. Yeah. Like,

644
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: here's a tweet that he sent out. Uh on the

645
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Speaker 1: fourth is that today? No? That was that was earlier

646
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: in the week. Good job, that was yesterday Wednesday. I

647
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: quote I'd rather be hated for who I am, then

648
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: loved for who I am not, and then dash Kurt Cobain,

649
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: and then Russell Wilson feels like he needs to hammer

650
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: his home Nirvana lead singer. All right, that's not that's

651
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: not the tweet I was. But he's a leader and

652
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: a great young player. I think he'll be back to

653
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: because when I think of inspiring quotes for leadership, Kurt

654
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: Cobain's the guy I'm going to go to. All Right, Well,

655
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: we did not go to love Nirvana. I'm just saying

656
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: it's a little weird, a little too soon, though. You know,

657
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: come on moving on west. My first ever concert Nirvana,

658
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: really that's mine was the Little Little River Band in

659
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: eighteen twelve. Group by the way, I know there's a

660
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: difference there there they're an outfit. Uh well we're here, Mark.

661
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: What was your first concert, Blues Traveler, don't remember an

662
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: even I in six I was seven years six year

663
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 1: old boy saw the Monkeys and weird Al Yankovic. I'm

664
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: not counting. Then. Then it's Cake and County Crows in Manhattan.

665
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: Give me a little bit of a wide berth here

666
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: take a minute. Okay, my one more has been Not

667
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: only is this the greatest super Bowl, it's ridiculous to

668
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: say any other super Bowl is. And let's whoa, let's

669
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: hear it. Agree. But I'm explaining what going into this game.

670
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: Henry Hodgson talked about this on the Damna Check podcast

671
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: on the NFL dot com poll. He's never seen it

672
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: this close before. The two best coaches in the league,

673
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: two great teams. You have one dynasty for the last

674
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: thirteen years. You have another one that has a chance

675
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: to be the next great dynasty with four or five

676
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowls in a row. This is what's at stake.

677
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: You go into the game, Patriots take control. It's like

678
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: the Packers in the NFC title game. They're taking control,

679
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: but they're blowing opportunities. At one point, Brady's got fourteen

680
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: completions and Russell Wilson has zero. I mean, it's just

681
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: total control. Seattle battles back in. Then the Patriots get

682
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: the grunk touchdown. It looks like they're gonna have like

683
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: major control going into halftime. Russell Wilson brilliant, brilliant second

684
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: drive with Pete Carroll dropping his lower extremities on the

685
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: field twice going into halftime. Totally different game. Seahawks take control.

686
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: You think the Patriots are out of it? Three out

687
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: of the five of us on the podcast Sunday Night

688
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: thought the game was over. Tom Brady epic fourth quarter,

689
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 1: two touchdown drives, thirteen of fifteen. Final drive eight for eight,

690
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: two huge plays. Julian Edelman gets knocked out almost by

691
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: Cam Chancellor. Just one great play on top of the other.

692
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: Final drive. Malcolm Butler makes a play, Malcolm Brandon Browner

693
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: makes a play in the end zone. Malcolm Butler makes

694
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: another play, but curse makes the David Tyree Antonio Freeman

695
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: catch two plays later, Malcolm Butler makes the Ray Allen

696
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: three analogy two. I mean, just in the span of

697
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: thirty seconds, you've got two epic history changing play and

698
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler that was one of the greatest defensive plays

699
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: in the history of football. Good job by Tom Brady

700
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: offering up his truck to to Malcolm Butler because he

701
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: deserves it. The more you watch that play, the more

702
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: amazing it is. The dollars out of it, and you

703
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: can argue a few different things, but there's really no

704
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: argument that that was the most impactful play in Super

705
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: Bowl history. Never has a Super Bowl had one play

706
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: that was any bigger than that, And for the for

707
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: everything that you said in terms of the flow of

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00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: the game and the greatness of the players, and then

709
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: the historical meaning, it really is the greatest. How could something?

710
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: The catch was pretty crazy too, though the quality of

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00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I think it helps that

712
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: we were in person to feel how electric it was,

713
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: and from another lens, like we all had guests and

714
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: my wife's Simona and her friend Tracy. They were up

715
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: near the front of the stadium and driving people crazy.

716
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: They told me. Because there were so many big plays

717
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: for either side that they didn't just clamp down on

718
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: one team and they couldn't name eighteen of the guys

719
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: you just mentioned, but it was so exciting. They were

720
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,479
Speaker 1: cheering for every big play and people around them like, wait, wait,

721
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: who are what side are you on here? But it

722
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: was that kind of a game where you couldn't even

723
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: figure out who were you were rooting for if you

724
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: were neutral, because it was swinging in both ways. Even

725
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: this thing where TV doesn't like Tom Brady but he's

726
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: admitted that montage when Brady's coming out of the tunnel

727
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: for Goosebumps, I didn't even the Cleveland Browns melted entirely

728
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: from my consciousness and it was like, this is football

729
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: like this Tom Brady in that moment, I think we

730
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: all were a bit transfixed by I mean that is

731
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: like it was like a god coming down the tunnel.

732
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: That made me feel like. I don't know if people

733
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: did saw that on TV with him coming out, yeah,

734
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if they all fired up the place

735
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: when nuts and Mark Mark I loved it. Really did

736
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: get Mark on the side of the Patriots, cheering like

737
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: crazy the whole game, but as actually thinking about just

738
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: jumping ship right well, I was just in a very

739
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: dark I will also say the it was so badass

740
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: the when the Seahawks are coming out of the tunnel

741
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: and speaking Nirvana. They were playing smells like teen Spirit

742
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: and uh, Wilson's walking He's walking like a rock star

743
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: like down the tunnel leading his guys. I thought that

744
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: was like a super cool, cool moment in general, both

745
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: sides that maybe you don't get that experience unless you're there.

746
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: When they show Belichick in the place goes crazy with Boot,

747
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: it was like Darth Vade. All right, let's list an

748
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: electric atmosphere the whole game. Let's keep let's keep moving

749
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: because we do have I have things and you have

750
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: more things. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, so I wanted

751
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: to hear I am, I'm guiding the show properly. Okay, good,

752
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: I'm doing my best for you. But I'll lay some

753
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: blame on the Seahawks and Wilson and Pete Carroll. That

754
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: did you skip over me and go to your next

755
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: This whole point was I was trying to let you

756
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: set up, and I was gonna set myself up before

757
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: you got in your second Oh I didn't know, So

758
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: I I thought that this was like a basketball play

759
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: where I just capt go ahead, you go ahead, do yours,

760
00:37:54,080 --> 00:38:00,240
Speaker 1: and then I'll do much. I feel bad, all right, Okay,

761
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: cut that all out. He was just so excited anyway, Gronk.

762
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Gronk. The summer of Gronk has already begun. Uh,

763
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, after playing a great game and then having

764
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: a big touchdown catch. Uh, he's now done done the tour.

765
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: By sunrise, he was already back in l A or

766
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: in l A doing various things and including the Kimmel Show,

767
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: and he had the greatest grunt quote ever before. He

768
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: did a reading from his erotica novel, and it was

769
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: so great I had to ask TV to cut it.

770
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't read a book since ninth grade.

771
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: When they made me like, you know, you don't raise

772
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: your hand what they call on you. I'm mocking the

773
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: remember or whatever mocking bird to remember right, University of Arizona, folks.

774
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: By the way, this is gonna be a great next

775
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: six months or so with Rob Gronkowski, who uh you know,

776
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: God bless me, stayed healthy, had a nice Super Bowl

777
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: and now has a ring and now he's going to

778
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: celebrate so I'm just happy that we got the gronk,

779
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: the happy, explosive, stupid ground just to enjoy great job

780
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: chugging on the parade route. I sent the video to

781
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: these guys that they mean, just the the movement, the

782
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: accuracy on it just brought me. Yeah, he's got he's

783
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: got experience. You would think. I'll bring up some criticism

784
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,240
Speaker 1: of the Seahawks that hasn't been talked about for whatever

785
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: reason too much, and that's that they burned two time

786
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: outs on that final drive for no reason. So you

787
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: want to kill Pete Carroll for that call. I I

788
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: honestly think the way they burned those two time outs

789
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: was more inexcusable. They used one time out after an

790
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: incomplete pass with one fifty left at midfield. Can you

791
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: ever imagine Tom Brady, your Bill Belichick, or a lot

792
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: of teams that are well coached Bernie and time out

793
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: off of an incomplete pass in that scenario. And then

794
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: the other one was after the curse crazy catch. They

795
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: took so long figuring out what had just happened and

796
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: getting up to the line of scrimmage that they had

797
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: to take a time out then. But it was at

798
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: the end of the whole clock movie. So that's two

799
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: time outs that no one's really killed them for, and

800
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: that that showed a lot of inexperience. Well, one thing

801
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: that they just couldn't line up for two straight plays

802
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 1: on the biggest moment if you're lives. They couldn't line

803
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: up in time in two different plays. Totally fair and like,

804
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean, the one way they would have escaped any

805
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: criticism at all has had they run Lynch on that

806
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 1: second play. I mean, oh, how brilliant that they didn't

807
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: leave any time for the pay. I mean, so many

808
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: things translated to our view of this game at this point, right,

809
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 1: But I don't think there's any justification of taking a

810
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: time out when the clock has stopped. Well, by the way,

811
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Speaker 1: flip side and I know you're fifty no matter what,

812
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: there's no like, okay, I hear you. I know, Billy

813
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: just Bills your boy. But and and he had a

814
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: kind of a thing. No one can argue Bill, But

815
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,959
Speaker 1: he explained why he didn't take a time out because

816
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: he liked the look that he But honestly, a hundred

817
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: times you take that time out to give your offensive chance.

818
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: I understand that's not the case here, but I mean,

819
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: he commuted, he admitted. When you look back, he's like,

820
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: you can make the argument I should have taken a

821
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: time out. He he admitted that. Well, then he he said,

822
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: but maybe I should have. But the way I was

823
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: looking at it, that would have been killed if they

824
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: had lost this game. And that's why it's great to

825
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: be the winner, because okay, killed nothing. It didn't work

826
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: out again too, And that's why Pete Carroll will never

827
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: shake this and nobody will ever think of Belichick. Uh

828
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: did we talk about the poop celebration by Doug Baldwin.

829
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: I think you just uh it was you know, uh,

830
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: the NBC didn't even air it. They cut away from it.

831
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin and then after the game was one of

832
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: those weird juxtapositions because I think he did he have

833
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: any other catches besides that, And the only way he

834
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: got open is because Rieva's got picked by the referee.

835
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: And you know, he was there and he was, you know,

836
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: somberly talking after the game at a riser and it

837
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: was just like, it's just kind of it's just weird

838
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: that this guy in in front of the biggest TV

839
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: audience ever, in the biggest moment of his career. I

840
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: think we we talked about this. Was decided to do

841
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: a fake poop. That's what he wanted his legacy to be.

842
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: Take a duty on the wasn't Adam Corolla bit? Wasn't

843
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: it kind of right? I listened to Corolla for a

844
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: long time, and he used to He actually came on

845
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: our air NFL network a few times and did this

846
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: with with Rich Eisen just saying, wouldn't that be the

847
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: greatest celebration ever that you pretend to take a dump

848
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: and use the football as you know prop essentially? I

849
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: don't get it. Why is it funny? I don't know,

850
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: it's a stupid were all the internet immediately. I saw

851
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: places that said it was brilliant. We're pisted NBC for

852
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: not showing it. I don't. I feel that feels like

853
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: more like an NFC Division Divisional Playoffs celebration that what

854
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: what about it is funny? I just don't get it.

855
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: Like Corolla is a comedian, so maybe he sees something

856
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: the way he brought it up, and I don't know

857
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: understand why. Well, poop is inherently funny. I think that's

858
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: where it all kind of stems from. And it does.

859
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: It does take the sport less seriously when you do that.

860
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: Maybe that was where it was at, but that happened.

861
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: Is there anything else to do? Anything else? But yeah,

862
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: I got you. I got a question with you guys

863
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: on old TD. Okay, you question are about the parade.

864
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: We had Julian Edeman with a Sherman poster, we had

865
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: like Gary Blunt with a shirt. And my question is,

866
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: I'm off with trash Shalwkins playing sport. It was beast

867
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: mode except it wasn't beast. It was a B word

868
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: though a female dog work. Yes, exactly, And my question

869
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 1: is it's sort of funny. Hell, a lot of people

870
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: call out the Seahawks and some guys, I'm not it's

871
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: not homorason. They called out the Seahawks for being brash

872
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: and whatnot and not you know, being uh sports not

873
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: having sportsmanship. But it's kind of quite on the front

874
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: with the with the with the pats there and you

875
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: don't you think that what you do in a parade

876
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: should be held to a different standard than what you

877
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 1: do on the actual football field. That's a good point,

878
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: But do you think the Seahawks would be afforded that

879
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: if they even if they do, that's fine. But they

880
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: they're just grabbing stuff from people in the crowd. It's

881
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: not like la Garrett Blunt was up at seven am,

882
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: you know, putting that T shirt together, or you know,

883
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: paste in a poster. You know, Edelman wasn't at home

884
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: with his kids using a bunch of paste. Someone in

885
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: the crowd hands on the thing and they was something.

886
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, whatever, that's a question. It's

887
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: not a home where. It's just like, it's kind of

888
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: weird how people want to jump in a high horse.

889
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 1: And it also helps that they don't have to face

890
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: each other twice a year like some of these. I mean,

891
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: I'm with West on this. I think in that setting,

892
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: someone hands some of your shirt and you hold it

893
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: up and all of a sudden it's on social media.

894
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: It's not like Doug Baldwin or Richard Sherman holding a

895
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: like a faux press conference to show how funny they

896
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: are dropping to four on the camera. Like these guys,

897
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: they were easy to root against by the end of

898
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: that game. I stand by that. I'm sorry, TV. I'm

899
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: just saying, just pointed it out. That question. You know

900
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: you've ever do that? All right, that's it that we're

901
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: still going around. Well, I mean Greg's got more point

902
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: more I am it is your moment. We actually got

903
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: through most of them. Give us, We got some Charlie

904
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: win short yardage, We got to the everything else. Greg

905
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: Bard had a good check out his piece and I

906
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: don't know even know if it's up yet, but he

907
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: was tweeting about he thought that was one of the

908
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: best games he's ever seen bray d play, which I

909
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: thought was interesting because he had two interceptions, and he's

910
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: been very critical of Brady, but he thought the way

911
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: that Brady won the game kind of from the neck

912
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: up and knew exactly where to go, and there was

913
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: not many open receivers each and every down, and and

914
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: this is typical of Brady. It's not like it's unique,

915
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: but just the patients that he showed throughout the game

916
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 1: that so few quarterbacks in NFL history could have ever

917
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: done that. And the difference kind of between Brady, who

918
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 1: didn't make a ton of big athletic plays or deep

919
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: down the field, and Wilson, who had a great game

920
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: and made a bunch of plays, is kind of stark,

921
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: and for him to win it like that was impressive.

922
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: Did it. But Dart actually right that it was one

923
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: of the best games he's ever seen by Brady even

924
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: before the fourth quarter, right, that's what he was saying.

925
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: Which it's interesting, and I did watch I haven't watched

926
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: the whole game. Uh over again on you will, I

927
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: will on Coaches. I tried to get through it before

928
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: this podcast. But just almost everything that he's learned throughout

929
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: his whole career ends up being on display in this

930
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: game because there weren't a lot of open receivers and

931
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: good pointing exactly where to go. And how about some

932
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: credit to Josh McDaniels who came up with really one

933
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: of the few game plans we've seen that took advantage

934
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: of Seattle's strengths even as a secondary in their speed.

935
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: And I ate them up and when they got down,

936
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: you know, bad teams move away from the game plan.

937
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: They stuck right with it. You said that right during

938
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: the end. They're not going away from what the what

939
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: they what was working early on. I don't think they

940
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: would have won this had they veered away from from

941
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: that early success. Didn't the Patriots, Brady had more passed attempts,

942
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: and I think the Seahawks had total plays well, I

943
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: mean Russell Wilson only had two pass attempts deep into

944
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: the second quarter. All his real estate came from then on.

945
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: They controlled Yeah, they controlled it. By the way, My

946
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: what was that thing we did on Friday confident call

947
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: was the Patriots will have long slow drives and this

948
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: was your week? Greg? Alright, by the way, we should

949
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: bring Greg back down to earth about a little sandwich

950
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: wager from NFL Honors. That's right, Dan, Dan, which when

951
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: I get to explain this, because you're having such a

952
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: nice run, give me something. I have nothing, but can

953
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: I have some throat of these music for this? We

954
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: we wanted a sandwich about how many m v P

955
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: votes J J. Watt would get. We came down at eight,

956
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: we said, I said he'll get at least eight, and

957
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: Greg said I'll maybe get two or three. And guess

958
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: what he got by hick sandwich for Danny boy on that.

959
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: I think it was a personal guy. I think it

960
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: was just Dan and I. You wanted to jump on later,

961
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: but I said no, the wind started blowing the wrong way,

962
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: and now that feels to me lunch for everyone. I

963
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 1: was wildly confident on that one too, and wasn't really

964
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: that close. So anyway, we will settle that up, so

965
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: at least it got something out of it. Only we

966
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: had uh done a sandwich on Bobby Wagner winning an

967
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: m v P vote. That all right, Moving on before

968
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 1: we get out of here, Wes, the great scientist they

969
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: call him, put together his list of the top twenty

970
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: five free agents of the two thousand fifteen class, a

971
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: list that you could check out at NFL dot com slash.

972
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't know around the NFL unless there's a entity.

973
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: Earl News also works. By the way, every science teacher

974
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: I've ever had in my life would be laughing at

975
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: the description you've painted here. Alright, so we gotta be

976
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: out of here in ten minutes, so let's get through. Uh,

977
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: let's get through this list, and we're gonna I'll just

978
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the top ten. I'm just gonna roll

979
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: it out there and then uh, greg Or Mark, you

980
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: can jump in what you think about at ten. DeMarco

981
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: Murray nine, Devin mccordy eight, Randall Cobbs seven, Uh, Mike

982
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: Upatti uh six, Julius Thomas five, j P. P F.

983
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 1: Demarus Thomas three, Dez Bryant to Justin Houston and number

984
00:48:55,719 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: one free agent according to Chris Westling and Dominican Sue

985
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: m Hm thought, I can't argue with the top three

986
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: at all. It's interesting like that behind Justin Houston was

987
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: interesting to me. Uh, Justin Houston, I mean what I

988
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: did you put out this yesterday Wesling that he didn't

989
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: have a penalty all season and the last two years,

990
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes has twenty penalties, Justin Houston has zero. I

991
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: think pass rushers always make a hill of money in

992
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: and I don't think Dez Bryant's going anywhere, so that

993
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. He had he had maybe

994
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 1: the best non j J. Watt season for any defensive

995
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: player in the last four years. I'm trying to come

996
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: up with one, because he would have won Defensive Player

997
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: of the Year a lot of years. I mean, he

998
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: was good against the run and he averaged more than

999
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: a game the year before too. I mean, this guy's

1000
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: he's right up there is the best pass rustlers in

1001
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: the league. Think it's funny that you know a guy

1002
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: like DeMarco Murray, whether he stays or goes at number

1003
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: ten with the with US with the market for running

1004
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: backs that we've seen in general. I wonder if he'll

1005
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 1: if he's finally the guy is a running back that

1006
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: will make you know a significant amount of dope, because

1007
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: these guys are just getting nothing here he was. He

1008
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: was the hardest guy for me to rank, because the

1009
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: first three months of game film is just incredible. He

1010
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: looks fantastic, He's making defenders missed the last month and

1011
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: a half. He's not quite the same back, and he

1012
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: has five touches. Teams are gonna want to pay for that,

1013
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: and they already don't want to pay for running backs.

1014
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: He's a hard guy to gree but he seems to

1015
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 1: think he's he's only going to go and make a

1016
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: lot of money. He's not sounding like a guy that's well.

1017
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't really blame him, seeing his NFL media insider

1018
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport has reported the Cowboys standing offer was four years,

1019
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: sixteen million, which I firmly believe is a slap in

1020
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: the face to him. He carried their offense West. You're

1021
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: a football head, so a lot of people that will

1022
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: look at Sue's numbers might not understand why he's ahead

1023
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: of everyone on this list. But tell me what makes

1024
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: and Dominicansous so valuable to the middle of defense. Well,

1025
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,839
Speaker 1: I don't think. Uh, casual football fans can look at

1026
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: defensive tackles numbers ever and gain. You can't glean anything

1027
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: out of looking at numbers for defensive tackles. He pushes

1028
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: the pocket. Uh, He's the best three three technique tackle

1029
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 1: in the league. I know Greg likes Gerald McCoy, but

1030
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,479
Speaker 1: Sue has been healthier and is better against the run.

1031
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: Um he dominates. There'll be five or six games a

1032
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: year where he just picks up the opposing center and

1033
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: guard and just pushes him out of the way. Dominates

1034
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: games as a as a fellow want to be scientist,

1035
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: we are going to collaborate on a larger the lab

1036
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: top one oh one free agents later and I can

1037
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,959
Speaker 1: predict some people's ranks are changing. Here here's my list

1038
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: of people which which will have lower rankings when the

1039
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: final list comes out, because I'm gonna drop him. Mikeyya

1040
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: Patti at seven and May maybe it's the seventh one

1041
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: if it was on who's gonna get paid the most?

1042
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 1: But he's coming off a bad year. I thought I

1043
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 1: think we had Alex mac higher than Mikey Potty and

1044
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: Mikey Potty has been a more dominant player. I don't

1045
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 1: know Mike Jared Oddrick thirteen that I was really where

1046
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: did that come from? He seems like an average He

1047
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: was starting just below Pro Bowl level last year. And

1048
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: and guys who can play three four defensive end it's

1049
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 1: four three tackle get paid sometimes starter in the league. Uh,

1050
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: he hasn't been a starter his whole career. He's kind

1051
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: of like you know every down player list. You already

1052
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: moved Jason Worlds because I really complained about how low

1053
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: he was initially. Brandon Graham seventeen that one. I'm more

1054
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: just curious, what's the reason. I actually hit him higher,

1055
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: and then moved him down a little bit because I

1056
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: thought maybe I'm just too high on him. That is

1057
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: high on Brandon on a personnap basis. He's always been

1058
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: one of the most efficient pass rushers in the league.

1059
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 1: He's been a porfeit for their defense. He's better in

1060
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: a four three. I think Greg attacking me, I'm not

1061
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: attacking I like Brandon Graham. I'll go to the barricade.

1062
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: I want to check in on that one. That one

1063
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: blew my mind so that I might move him up

1064
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: on my for their laboratory work is necessary. I noticed

1065
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: that you have Jordan Cameron rounding out the list of

1066
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: twenty five. Don't you have to kind of know where

1067
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: you are to make this list? Well, that's why he's

1068
00:52:56,080 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: this low. That's unprofessional games them alone. I would have

1069
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: Jordan Cameron like top twelve. I loved what I saw

1070
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: out of him, especially two thousand thirteen. But you can't

1071
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: How can you predict what teams will do with three concussions?

1072
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: Isn't it really only two thousand and thirteen? Because if

1073
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna get, if you're gonna pay for him, you're

1074
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna get what you got this year or any of

1075
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: the other seasons. You're geting a guy that plays about

1076
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: six games this season and you can't rely on him.

1077
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not just Michael Finley last year. In

1078
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: the end, you know, that was a more serious situation

1079
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: than Cameron as far as we know, But that would

1080
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: be a big rest. The two the two most interesting

1081
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: names on this entire list are pretty low to me.

1082
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: Greg Hardy number nineteen right now, he's on the reserved

1083
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: what do you call it? List? Commissioners, commissioners exemple list,

1084
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: but he will be a free agent eventually when he's

1085
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: allowed to play again. Just on pure talent, he's in

1086
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: the top five, no question. But that's not what L

1087
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: teams and I get it. But just pure talent, he's

1088
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: number five. He's not the greatest citizen, but someone's gonna

1089
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: take a gamble on him, no doubt, and they might.

1090
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 1: They may get a great, great player. Somebody's gonna take

1091
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: a gamble on him after they explained to their fan

1092
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: base why they're doing it. But I don't think they're

1093
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay a lot of money to take him.

1094
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: Maybe not. So that's it's an interesting gotta watch. And

1095
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: then Nick Fairley twenty two when he is right, and

1096
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: that's I guess not half the time, not all that often.

1097
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: I mean he's pretty awesome. I mean he's much better

1098
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: player than Jared Odrick or Brandon Graham when it has been.

1099
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: When C. J. Spiller's right, he's also another one. Yeah, hey,

1100
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 1: question for both the scientists and and Mark if Darell reevs,

1101
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: because we know as Mark gives you a dirty look,

1102
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: just as like we know what Mark you a scientist

1103
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: In the last I actually I thought we always watched.

1104
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: I didn't give you a dirty look. They make me

1105
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable, the two of them. If Drrell Reeves ended

1106
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: up on this list, and I know the Patriots have

1107
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: rights until the end of March, where would he be

1108
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: if you dropped him into this I actually had him

1109
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 1: on this list and had to take him away after

1110
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: I had our editors go through it with a fine

1111
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: tooth come. I had him fifth. Interesting. Interesting Dan making

1112
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 1: the point this morning that Reeves will be in New

1113
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: York Jet next season. Now that I think about it,

1114
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this list to Houston Dez. They're all

1115
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: definitely ahead of Revis. Yeah, i'd put him fourth or

1116
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: fifth to Marius Thomas and him. You know who I

1117
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: like on this list was I think it's a fair

1118
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 1: spot at eight team for Tori Smith. But I feel

1119
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: like if you put Tory Smith in the right office,

1120
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe Indianapolis or something, he could go

1121
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: next level on his game. I love me some Tori Smith.

1122
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: I could definitely be convinced to rank Tori Smith over

1123
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin because I feel like Macklin is a product

1124
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: of his system. Uh Smith's The only problem is he's

1125
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,600
Speaker 1: not gonna catch many passes. Greg and I talked about

1126
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: he's a bit of a Mike Wallace one trick pony

1127
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: kind of guy. He send him on go routes and

1128
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: let him let him get a passing. Mike Wallace was

1129
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: one of the highest paid receivers in the league, so

1130
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,439
Speaker 1: Tori Smith might get paid huge. Mike Bollis runs a four,

1131
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: what three three or something. I mean, he's faster than

1132
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 1: Tori Smith. He's also I was gonna I was gonna

1133
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: say he's the highest paid receiverbody he never should have been.

1134
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: What about what about Byron Maxwell? When he goes to

1135
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: a team where they're putting him on the front of

1136
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: the tickets and stuff. He's our number one corner? I mean,

1137
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: do you trust him as a number one corner and

1138
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: a bad defense? Potentially? I trust him as the number

1139
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: two corner and Dan Quinn's defense. If he goes to

1140
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,439
Speaker 1: someone that knows how to use him, there's no reason

1141
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: to think he can't be really effective. Alright, anything else, gentlemen,

1142
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: before we get out of here from this list, Chris,

1143
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: great working. I'm sure we're gonna have a lot more

1144
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 1: free agents. Will you guys get together and start banging

1145
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 1: heads to forge out the top one hundred. It's gonna

1146
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,879
Speaker 1: get ugly both post combine. Well, a lot of music

1147
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 1: gets made, yes, Earl Thomas, just so they came across

1148
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: while we were up here. Gonna be out six to

1149
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: eight months with that shoulder injuries, having surgery. Um, so

1150
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: that is a that's a length at length the rehab

1151
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: for a guy. I'll take you right to almost the

1152
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: start of the season. Well you could take you in

1153
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: October if it's eight months, but he'll hear QUI quick

1154
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: good quick math there on the months by Sessler. Underrated

1155
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: mathematicians might not be a scientist, but mathematician, all right.

1156
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: So that it for Thursday's edition to be around the

1157
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: NFL podcast. I think we're gonna do uh two shows

1158
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: next week too, and then eventually we're gonna ramp back

1159
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 1: up to three around combine time. This is Dan Hansis

1160
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: signing off for a Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Boss

1161
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: ont Day behind the Glass until Tuesday