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Speaker 1: I did go to school until we were homeless, and

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Speaker 2: Welcome to episode five sixty six with Sean Ryan Sea

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Speaker 2: n Ryan. We talked about how this was an accidental booking.

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Speaker 2: You're going to hear the whole story, but it turned out,

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Speaker 2: I would say delightful. New single how Country Goes was

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Speaker 2: released a few months ago. We have him describe as music,

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Speaker 2: but it's kind of a traditional country sound in a

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Speaker 2: Newish country era. I'd say he's all over. Give this

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Speaker 2: one a chance. Check out his website, Sean Ryan Live.

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Speaker 2: Also his socials Sean Ryan Live. This interview was never

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Speaker 2: supposed to happen, but here he is the musician. Sean Ryan.

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Speaker 2: All right, Sean, good to.

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Speaker 1: See you, buddy, Nice to see you.

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Speaker 2: We have ended in this place very interestingly. Yes, So

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Speaker 2: if I can just tell the backstory to you. I

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Speaker 2: had told one of my guys, hey, it'd be fun

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Speaker 2: to have Sean Ryan on, and you know all this right,

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Speaker 2: so let's not okay, good, I said, be fun to

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Speaker 2: have Sean Ryan. On Sean Ryan that I was referring

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Speaker 2: to is x Navy Seal XCIA lives here in town.

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Speaker 2: And so I have a group of people that I

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Speaker 2: work with and we all just kind of reach out

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Speaker 2: and try to book guests. And I sent it to

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Speaker 2: Morgan who runs my podcast network, who's'm a management team,

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Speaker 2: and we were like, all right, good to go, Shawn's

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Speaker 2: coming up. And I was like, wow, that was great.

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Speaker 2: It's easy. And Mike goes, hey, we should flag this

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Speaker 2: because this is a Sean Ryan music and I said,

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Speaker 2: what do you mean, Like, oh, we didn't book that

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Speaker 2: Sean Ryan. We booked a musician Sean Ryan. I was shocked,

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Speaker 2: and I said, well, a little unfortunate because we were

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Speaker 2: aiming for the other. Guy said, but we got to

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Speaker 2: get that Sean Ryan up here though, still, because I

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Speaker 2: don't want Sean Ryan you to feel like, oh, oh man,

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Speaker 2: I got a call to go do a cool interview

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Speaker 2: or lame interview or whatever, and I don't get to

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Speaker 2: do it now. So and I did say I still

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Speaker 2: wanted you to come up, but I wanted you to

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Speaker 2: know all that had happened before, because I feel like

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Speaker 2: I'd be walking into kind of an awkward trap if

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Speaker 2: I didn't tell you.

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Speaker 1: It's a good thing I didn't wear my you know,

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Speaker 1: my cameras today.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your fatigues didn't show up and steel so when

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Speaker 2: they called you or emailed you, how did what happened?

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Speaker 1: So my manager Taylor reached out to me and she

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Speaker 1: was very happy. She listens to your podcast and she

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Speaker 1: told me, oh, this is great, and so yeah, we

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Speaker 1: got We were very excited. And then I think Morgan

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Speaker 1: spoke to Kelly and told her about this, the funny

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Speaker 1: story about that, and you know, I love it. Life

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Speaker 1: is so interesting. You never know what trail's going to wear,

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Speaker 1: you know, and look here I am. So I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: very fortunate and I appreciate y'all's class act to follow

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Speaker 1: through and appreciating my time. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had it happen to me where someone's like, hey,

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Speaker 2: come do this and you set us side time because

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Speaker 2: we all have jobs and we're working, and all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden it's like, ah, never mind, You're like, well,

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Speaker 2: I just set as part of my day. I'm super

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Speaker 2: pumped it came up. So I do have a lot

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Speaker 2: of questions from you because I feel like now I've

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Speaker 2: That'd be said, you have a pretty common name. Yeah, Sean, right,

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Speaker 2: Sean and Ryan. Those are both like comm sandwich together.

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Speaker 2: Is that your name girl name?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh And oddly enough, it's funny to meet

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Speaker 1: different Sean Ryan's you know, so the person you're trying

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Speaker 1: to get my you know, my producer, Sean Rodgers. He

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Speaker 1: hate world productions here, you know, so that's always Finn.

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Speaker 1: Hey Sean, I've you know, awkwardly dated girls named Sean.

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Speaker 1: I'm used to it.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about your music. Sure, you grew up playing

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Speaker 2: music all my life. I was reading a bit about

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Speaker 2: because yours is legitimate. When we were very broke, I

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Speaker 2: just a comedy the music. It's a big sort of

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Speaker 1: The people, right, so different level.

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Speaker 2: We went to the show and some of them loved

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Speaker 2: but it was a very cheap ticket for that tribute

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Speaker 2: think your grandpa played with the rat Pack.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, yeah, And there's kind of a funny

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Speaker 1: story how that happened. He was, you know, a musician.

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Speaker 1: I come from four generations and musicians. And the way

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Speaker 1: So he grabbed his instrument and just walked into the

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Speaker 1: and said, you were hired what instrument?

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Speaker 2: Guitar sacks? Wow? Yes, So he just took it upon himself,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, true grit. You know, that's really cool. And did

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Speaker 2: Probably you have pretty cool stories. Oh can you make

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Speaker 2: have a good one, of course. You know, the rat

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Speaker 2: Probably drunk, probably drunk, Probably drunk.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't apple juice. Yeah, so yeah, so that was one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet you they went really hard.

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Speaker 2: You know, you say four generations. So if your grandpa,

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Speaker 2: right there. It could be your grandmother. That's sexist to

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Speaker 1: Actually, you are correct. It was my great grandmother. She

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Speaker 2: So your great grandma, your grandpa.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your dad? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: When he was younger. He's he's a very free spirited man,

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Speaker 2: So tell me about being homeless.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's very interesting. One thing people never really

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Speaker 2: You always found it to be interesting in a pretty

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Speaker 2: disingenuous way when people would go, I'm gonna do this

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Speaker 2: That's a week of discomfort where you know there's going

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Speaker 1: Literally, because there is no end in mind when you're

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Speaker 2: Were you guys playing we like busking or anything.

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Speaker 1: No, this was before we add instruments. And then thankfully

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Speaker 1: my dad taught me drums, my older brother keyboard bass,

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Speaker 1: and or. We practiced six months and their first gig

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Speaker 2: Well, I definitely want to get to that because that's

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Speaker 2: quite the first gig when you guys were struggling with homelessness.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, were you in us like us?

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Speaker 2: A place? Did you have like a spot or were

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Speaker 1: Yeah? More moving around. We stayed a lot at the

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Speaker 2: Did you go to school?

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Speaker 1: I did go to school until we were homeless, and

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Speaker 1: then I was homeschooled for a little bit. I taught

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Speaker 1: myself and then then I took my GD when I

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Speaker 2: I assume you got your GD yeah, yea yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: So how did you play your first show in front

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Speaker 1: So that was we We had an opportunity, someone who

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Speaker 2: See you hustle too. Oh yeah, I had Ringo star

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Speaker 2: So you're just getting good, right, Even if you're not

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Speaker 1: You're getting comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which makes you. There's always great especially in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: to push that out now, but now you're just putting

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Speaker 1: out something a copy and while it might be attractive,

439
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Speaker 1: it's not you.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. If you haven't a stare at your fingers,

441
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Speaker 2: looking at every note you're playing, you're really not able

442
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Speaker 2: to you know, kind of look within yourself. How could

443
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Speaker 2: you because you're so focused on the mechanical parts of it?

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Speaker 1: Want to you? Yeah, you know.

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446
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447
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Speaker 2: So when did you move to Nashville.

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Speaker 1: I moved to Nashville about nine years ago. Yeah, it's

449
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Speaker 1: doing the This was when I was about to start

450
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Speaker 1: doing touring throughout the US. So this was the jump.

451
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Speaker 1: I had a friend who lived out here, and.

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Speaker 2: So what does the friends say to you when you're

453
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Speaker 2: not Were you still in California?

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Speaker 1: I was still in California. He made the jump first,

455
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Speaker 1: my friend Taylor Krop.

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Speaker 2: Where were you in California?

457
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Speaker 1: Monterey?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I've been in Moneray. Super cool. I've done

459
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Speaker 2: stand at Monterey Theater there.

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Speaker 1: Oh cool.

461
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Speaker 2: I believe it's called like the Monterey Theater. Yeah, I

462
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Speaker 2: think I literally think it's called the Moneray Theater. And

463
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Speaker 2: it's right by the water. Yes, it's awesome. Yes, it's

464
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Speaker 2: really one of the more scenic theaters. And beautiful, yeah

465
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Speaker 2: in like big fancy boats. Yeah, great spot, beautiful, great spot.

466
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Speaker 2: And so you're there and your friend gets over here,

467
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Speaker 2: and what does he tell you about Nashville.

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Speaker 1: He says, if you want to do music, it's the

469
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Speaker 1: place to be, you know. So I took a plane take.

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Speaker 1: It was tough to get a weekend off because I

471
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Speaker 1: was booked a year in advanced by this point, and

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Speaker 1: so I flew out and I stayed with him for

473
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Speaker 1: a week. I did Monday boogie blues jam, you know,

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Speaker 1: printer Zali get a taste of that.

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Speaker 2: Which did you go or just or play?

476
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Speaker 1: I went to go play, but then the saxophone player

477
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Speaker 1: for Steely Dan was there, and I just had to

478
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Speaker 1: sit back and listen. I just I didn't know that

479
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Speaker 1: was that level of talent here on a Monday night.

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Speaker 2: You would later learn every day. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty

481
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Speaker 2: cool though, that you get to see that, especially if

482
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Speaker 2: you have an appreciation for Steely Dan and how they

483
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Speaker 2: do music. And I'm assuming you do.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, smooth it, you know, coming from just even

485
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Speaker 1: if I may not just the musicality of it and just

486
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Speaker 1: sitting there listening. This is what they choose to do

487
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Speaker 1: on their night off. Listen how good they are there

488
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Speaker 1: and learning at that time, you know, how to be yourself.

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Speaker 1: She was just relaxed. I don't know her name, but

490
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Speaker 1: she was so relaxed. I could feel that she was

491
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Speaker 1: having fun. And then that showed me, Ah, that's a

492
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Speaker 1: good way. She sounds great, but she's still having fun.

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Speaker 1: It's possible.

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Speaker 2: How long were you here that first.

495
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Speaker 1: Trip, about a week, and then I had to do

496
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Speaker 1: my shows. I learned a lot. And the thing that

497
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Speaker 1: kind of really moved me here was not just that.

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Speaker 1: It was I got frozen yogurt from this place and

499
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Speaker 1: it was like two dollars. But what surprised me was

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Speaker 1: the people here that I loved. I really loved the

501
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Speaker 1: people here. That's what brought me.

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Speaker 2: What about him?

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Speaker 1: It was this. So the gentleman we sold us our

504
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Speaker 1: frozen yogurt went to go take a cigarette break. Two

505
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Speaker 1: dollars was the cost, and I'm sitting out there and

506
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Speaker 1: I didn't have a napkin, and he could see me

507
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Speaker 1: looking like, oh, I have an apvant. He comes from

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Speaker 1: his cigarette break and says sir, let me get you

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Speaker 1: something to me. Coming from California, I've never seen that

510
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Speaker 1: someone taking their time from their break time to serve me.

511
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Speaker 1: I thought, wow, he's a nice human being. This was

512
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Speaker 1: an East Nashville I think that that was you know

513
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Speaker 1: that with the music. I was like, wow, this is

514
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Speaker 1: a nice place. I want to live here to be

515
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Speaker 1: me because I want to be personal. Look at you and.

516
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Speaker 2: The eye and so on a Monday, you go, I

517
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Speaker 2: nice to live right about Printer's Alley.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Oh the weird part about that was I so I

520
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Speaker 2: lived down in Brentwood at first when I first moved

521
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Speaker 2: to town, because I have been here twelve years. Yeah yeah,

522
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,959
Speaker 2: so around the same right, And so I moved here

523
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Speaker 2: from Austin. Loved Austin. I'm talking a plus I'm not

524
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Speaker 2: from Texas, but lived in Austin for around the same

525
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Speaker 2: amount of time, and I thought I was just gonna

526
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Speaker 2: be there because it was really the first place that

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Speaker 2: I felt man like I could just live here and

528
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Speaker 2: exist and be happy. And I was building my business.

529
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Speaker 2: Everything was great, and they were like, we're gonna move

530
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Speaker 2: you to Nashville, and I was like cool. So I

531
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Speaker 2: moved to Nashville. I'm living in Brentwood, and there's some

532
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Speaker 2: issues there. That guy killed his wife, Like right, A

533
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: couple of houses down is running around the shop. It's crazy.

534
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Speaker 2: So it was also too far away from the airport.

535
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Speaker 2: I was traveling a lot, so I I gotta get

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Speaker 2: closer to town. So I bought a condo. And it

537
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Speaker 2: was always my dream to live downtown because on TV

538
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Speaker 2: people live downtown. I thought it was so cool. Do

539
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Speaker 2: you just live next to like restaurants? Yeah, you could

540
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Speaker 2: walk to a restaurant. That was the coolest part about downtown.

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Speaker 2: And so about this condo downtown, And I remember going

542
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Speaker 2: and I was just starting to make money because when

543
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Speaker 2: I moved here, first of all, I should rephrase that.

544
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Speaker 2: I when I made fifty thousand dollars a year, I

545
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Speaker 2: thought I was rich based on where I was coming from.

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Speaker 2: But there are different levels. And it was the level

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Speaker 2: when I moved and I'm like, oh, I'm I'm starting.

548
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Speaker 2: I think I'm starting to be rich. It was a

549
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Speaker 2: different feeling where it started to be confusing to me.

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Speaker 1: Ten dollars doesn't look like ten.

551
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, no, everything was it was wild. Yeah,

552
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Speaker 2: And so I bought this condo, super expensive, and I'm like,

553
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Speaker 2: this is a life I'm living downtown. I got a

554
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Speaker 2: condo and if you looked over the balcony, it was

555
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Speaker 2: literally right on Printer's Alley. Now the problem is, oh, yeah,

556
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Speaker 2: I know, I'm setting all the great up for the

557
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Speaker 2: part that was really annoying. The problem was I looked

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Speaker 2: at the condo on like a Tuesday and came back

559
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Speaker 2: on a Thursday in the daytime, and then I was

560
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Speaker 2: on the road touring doing stand up or my comedy

561
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Speaker 2: music group almost every weekend for like the first four

562
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Speaker 2: months that I lived there. Well, then there was a

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Speaker 2: month and a half or so that I was home

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Speaker 2: for like six weekends in a row. I'd never been

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Speaker 2: in my condo at night on a weekend that was

566
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Speaker 2: right about Printer's Alley. It sounded like this from about

567
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Speaker 2: seven on non stop. It was miserable that place ended

568
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Speaker 2: up flooding. It wasn't my fault.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't my fault, Like yeah, but it was so

570
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Speaker 4: loud because that is such a hopping place, because that

571
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Speaker 4: used to be the place in Nashville right right right,

572
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Speaker 4: and now it's the place that used to be the place,

573
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Speaker 4: but they've rebuilt it back of it.

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Speaker 2: But man, it was so annoying being there on a weekend.

575
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Speaker 2: I never was there on a weekend. How was I

576
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Speaker 2: didn't know to go on a weekend? Is se if

577
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Speaker 2: it bled through the walls.

578
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Speaker 1: We're always working.

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Speaker 2: Right on all yes, yes, and you don't go look

580
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Speaker 2: at a house on a weekend night. Anyway. They knew it.

581
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Speaker 2: They didn't tell me they didknew it. I was so irritated.

582
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Speaker 2: But Printer's Alley's a cool place to go if you

583
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Speaker 2: come here, because you did look a Broadway that's the

584
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Speaker 2: traditional place you go, but Printer's Alley's like next level.

585
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

586
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you had somebody that was local that knew that. Yes,

587
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 2: that's the key, right.

588
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Speaker 1: Richard Alexander, he did a bunch of like jingles and

589
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Speaker 1: stuff with Sony and he actually when I came into town,

590
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Speaker 1: he already had a job lined up for me. So

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Speaker 1: the first day I came into town that day on Monday,

592
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Speaker 1: I was already in a recording studio and.

593
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Speaker 2: So wow, yeah, so you go on Monday to Printer's Alley.

594
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Speaker 2: Do you go to other shows or bars restaurants for

595
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Speaker 2: the rest of the week since you had that exposure

596
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Speaker 2: where we like, show me more. Ah.

597
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Speaker 1: When I first came, I mean for the first few.

598
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Speaker 2: Years, absolutely no. The first week you're here.

599
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Speaker 1: Everything constant absorption of everything.

600
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Speaker 2: So you're telling your buddy, take me, take me other

601
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Speaker 2: places I want to see.

602
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Speaker 1: I want to see everything everywhere, to absorb everyone and

603
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Speaker 1: just kind of get a feel. Right. That's how you

604
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Speaker 1: understand a city, is what they like with the audience,

605
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: like and you know, it was really amazed how the

606
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: community here. Musicians are just so friendly that everyone knows

607
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: each other. You can borrow a pack of strings from them,

608
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: you know.

609
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I love that because you're going to see

610
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Speaker 2: them again and all the time. They're gonna need something

611
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Speaker 2: from you eventually, and it's done in that. It's almost

612
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: like the web of mutality, which was a big Martin

613
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 2: Luther King thing where everybody kind of depended on everybody.

614
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Speaker 1: And you've done the road, and so you know the

615
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Speaker 1: road when you know eventually you just kick back and

616
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: relax because the road just takes you right. And so

617
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: everyone I think here is seasoned, right, so they have

618
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 1: that mentality to just relax. It's not a big thing,

619
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Speaker 1: just relax And I love that.

620
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Speaker 2: So you came for a week, you went home. When

621
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Speaker 2: you went home, when you're flying back, where you're like,

622
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 2: I got to get to Nashville? Was that the feeling

623
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Speaker 2: that all the entire time?

624
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Speaker 1: And I had to play that weekend and I did

625
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Speaker 1: a sold out event that week when I got back

626
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Speaker 1: into town, and just the difference from seeing Nashville, right

627
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: was it three four hundred people on one level of

628
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: a bar and then my sold out thing was like

629
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: four hundred people And I thought, Wow, this is this

630
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Speaker 1: is this If I was over there, I could have

631
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: three times that and how fun would that be to

632
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 1: try this? And yeah, So then the plane trip back

633
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,239
Speaker 1: was just feeling ideas, Okay, I need to do the move.

634
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Speaker 1: It's going to take seven months. I need to save

635
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Speaker 1: up fifteen thousand dollars. I need to do this.

636
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Speaker 2: Oh so you had a plan? Oh or you had

637
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Speaker 2: to make a plan. I made a logistic, yes, based

638
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Speaker 2: plan absolutely. What was part of that plan to get here?

639
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Speaker 1: Part of that plan was to hustle all summer, and

640
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: I mean I was doing as many shows as I can.

641
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: I said at about fifteen thousand to have a few

642
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: extra income for the months I would be off. Because

643
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: when you move to a new city, you're not going

644
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: to be playing, and that's.

645
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Speaker 2: That's a great point because you don't have a built

646
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Speaker 2: in right now. Oh, you're right.

647
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Speaker 1: And my manager relationships anyone, no one knows. You and

648
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: I have kind of different booking managements. In one of them,

649
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, once says you're gonna have to start over.

650
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: Another one tried to lower me with an envelope ten

651
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: thousand dollars when we're at Chipotle to say stay in town.

652
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 1: They won't. You know, this is better for you. You

653
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: can get new you can get your roof for pair

654
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 1: if you stay in town. It was that comment that

655
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: kind of made me get it out here. I need

656
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: to change that. But yeah, it was just I needed

657
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: to do something, and so I formulated a plan, save

658
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: up money for the time I'm off, make a new

659
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: EP of a lot of my popular songs, you know

660
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: that I would tour with and just redo it because

661
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: it's in reintro to a larger audience Nashville. You know,

662
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to do better.

663
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: So you made an EP to give to people here

664
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 2: to say this is my music. Can I can play

665
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 2: at your place? Was that one of the reasons you were.

666
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: Doing that it's kind of and then just because you know,

667
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 1: your music is your your business card, right, And so

668
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: I knew that if I came into town start knocking

669
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: on doors, they're going to be going to my website

670
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: and stuff. And while I was proud of what I've

671
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: recorded before, it was not.

672
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: The I didn't represent you now, Yeah, exact.

673
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: The thing with art is you constantly evolved.

674
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like my phone. I got to update the

675
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: stupid thing all the time, or it's behind. Last night

676
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: I got the most annoying thing and I had emailed.

677
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: I tried to email Mike the producer a couple of times,

678
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: and I kept getting a bounce back, and so I

679
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: just screenshot at the email that I wrote him and

680
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: some emails not going through, and I sent him a screenshot.

681
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: So I knew I wasn't full of crap of like

682
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: the a your email Pop sixty nine is not working,

683
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: and so I could not figure out all my email

684
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: wasn't working. What it was, which I figured out later

685
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: in the night, was it gave me the new terms

686
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 2: of service for email. And if you don't go through

687
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: and click yes to shut your email down, who with

688
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: the new Yeah, so I didn't want to. Wow, Yeah,

689
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: I was kind of sucky. I guess what happened, by

690
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: the way. Yeah, so if you get the terms of

691
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: service on your update, your iOS update, you got to

692
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 2: do it or a bit shut your email down.

693
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: But you didn't do you get someone else do it

694
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: so they didn't feel like they got.

695
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: No I did. I don't want about anybody in my email.

696
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 2: So you move here, and how long until you can

697
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 2: play consistently?

698
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: Well?

699
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you're starting from scratch, right. So, and I

700
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: in the original town, it took me less time because

701
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: it was a smaller town. This one took about probably

702
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: a year and three months before I was being able

703
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: to really just play like I was back home.

704
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: But you have to get another job here. No, you

705
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 2: had money saved up.

706
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: I had money saved up, and there were about two

707
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: months where it was pretty close, you know, you know,

708
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: but thankfully I had a couple of little side gigs here,

709
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: a little you know, private parties that will kind.

710
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: Of sounds like you're drug dealing, but private parties. I'm glad,

711
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, So you're here, you're trying to get

712
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: back on your feet where you at least can play

713
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: consistently yeah, you're meeting folks, right, Yeah, like a lot

714
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: of probably more music, more more musicians, or more people

715
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: in the art than in California because here that this

716
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: is the community.

717
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: This is the community. I think I was starting to

718
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: be like Jailee Davis and stuff like that, folks like them,

719
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: starting to write with them, Jan Buckingham, you know, Mama

720
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: Dug and so they done stuff with like Jim McGraw

721
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: and stuff. So it was nice to be introduced to

722
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: these people, the locals here and just kind of, you know,

723
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: learned that a little bit. And it was also I

724
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: had a lot of motivation. I moved here with someone

725
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: and we broke up because of the music.

726
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: So but you moved here with someone, Yeah, so you

727
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: brought some up from California with you.

728
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: And my girlfriend at the time. Yeah, huh, Yeah, risked

729
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: it all.

730
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: Did she stay here? No, she went back home.

731
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: She went back home. Six months she lot, Yeah, six

732
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: months she was here.

733
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: I know she didn't die. I'm sorry sorry for your loss.

734
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it felt like she died, but yeah, it

735
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: was That was a great motivation because at the moments

736
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 1: I was in my apartment at Nashboro and I was

737
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: pretty sad. I was thought, well, let's see, I'm in

738
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: a newtown. I have no consistent gigs. My girl just.

739
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: Left me sounds like its own song, by the way, exactly,

740
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: sounds like a song. Yes.

741
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: And so you're like, I have two options, which we've

742
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: been through, right, and when we're growing up. I can

743
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: either cry about it and be sad, or I can

744
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: cry about it and do something.

745
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: And get better at something.

746
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: Well, it's like, chose the other.

747
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 5: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

748
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 5: Bobby Cast.

749
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: How would you describe your music?

750
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: Rock soul?

751
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you said a billy because there's

752
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: a bit of a you say rock soul, a bit

753
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: of rockabilly. Yeah, yeah, you can hear that. Yeah were

754
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: you were you that in California? Or did that happen

755
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: because you got around it more here?

756
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: I think because I was. My dad says, it's because

757
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: I'm around here.

758
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: You're influenced by what you're around. Yeah, your environment, And

759
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: I mean I think it's a lovely thing. And of course,

760
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: you know, traveling on the road, you know, I've been

761
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 2: a different persons before I would travel and toward all

762
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: the different places.

763
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: You know, that changes you too. You absorb everyone around

764
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: you from all the different cities as you know, doing

765
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: your your acts. Every city is different and they but

766
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: there's some similarities, right, and you kind of you know

767
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: that some of it's you. You can find yourself in Illinois,

768
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: you can find yourself in Idaho. You know, des MOOI.

769
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: You know it's really nice.

770
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: Are you on the road much now?

771
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: Yes? And no. I Now after COVID, I started kind

772
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 1: of doing more precise tory. So before when I I

773
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: was just doing six nights, seven nights a week, eight months,

774
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: nine months on the road and come home for two weeks,

775
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: be gone for another, you know. And that was because

776
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: I was building my name in this area too, so

777
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: I think it did require that amount of effort. But

778
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: now I have a home here in town. So most

779
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: of the time I'm like, I got a powerwa washer yesterday.

780
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm so stoked.

781
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll watch powerwashing on TikTok or YouTube. And mostly

782
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: my algorithm knows when I need it right stressed yes,

783
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: based on probably what I'm searching or they're reading those

784
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: emails because the new terms of service that I got

785
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 2: you now it knows to feed it to me. And

786
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: I'll watch people powerwash bricks or a driveway. Oh, it's awesome.

787
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 1: I start citing my steps. That's the tester. I didn't

788
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: get fully into it, maybe later after this interview, but

789
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: just seeing that uc dido a little bit, is that obvious?

790
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 2: I just said, not so much about you, but I

791
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: definitely have have traits. I mean I think I probably

792
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: am like giving high fives to the spectrum as well.

793
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: So do you check the doors like I do? I

794
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: go want? Oh?

795
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 2: I well sort of so not the counts, but mine

796
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: is if I can't remember locking every single door by

797
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 2: the time I lay in bed, I have to go

798
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: back and do it all again. Yep, yeap to wear

799
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: my doctor, because I would be almost asleep and I

800
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 2: struggle with sleep anyway, and I would be almost asleep,

801
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: and I would go, I cannot remember locking a certain door,

802
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: a sliding door, and I know I did. I know

803
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: I did. But if I can't picture locking every single door,

804
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: I'll convince myself that I did it and someone's going

805
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: to come in to kill me and murder me.

806
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: Right.

807
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: So my doctor said, hey, you should take pictures of

808
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: every when you do it every night. That way, if

809
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: you have a and then delete them. Okay, after you've

810
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: looked at them, after you're sure, you delete them. But

811
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: if you take pictures them every night, you'll never get

812
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: all the way out of bed because you'll look at

813
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: your phone. Yep, lock lock, lock, lock lock.

814
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: That is a great idea.

815
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: So when I say are UCD or I'm like hey,

816
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm, you know, dangling on the edge

817
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: of the spectrum. It's because of all these conversations I've

818
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 2: had my doctor about me. I'm projecting on you a

819
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: bit what I have on me.

820
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, my brother mentioned stuff like that to me, and

821
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: I didn't notice always this kind of thought it was

822
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: just my behavior or like I count a lot in

823
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: my head. Maybe it's the music thing, but I count

824
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 1: seconds a lot, you know, and that kind of helps

825
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: me time my life a little bit, you know. It's

826
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: a little bit.

827
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's the most D talking. If you're

828
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: timing your life, that's the most CD talking right there.

829
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: And if something stops it, oh that is just panic,

830
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: you know.

831
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: So I wanted to not be super. I didn't want

832
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: to stalk you before this because I thought that how

833
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: we met was so interesting that I didn't want to

834
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 2: know everything about you, or that I could know before

835
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: we got in and I could learn it nice myself.

836
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

837
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: So these questions may be super ignorant.

838
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: That's fine.

839
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 2: So okay, so I just always want you to know that, uh,

840
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: if people were gonna go find you after they hear this, Yeah,

841
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 2: Like what do you want them to come across? What song?

842
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 2: What project?

843
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 5: Like what?

844
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: I don't know? What do you? What do we point

845
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: them toward?

846
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: Well, just my instagram or website, Sean Ryan live for

847
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 1: both of those, and that usually is the best way.

848
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: I usually do a lot of my behind the scenes

849
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: of recordings or where I'm touring and stuff like that.

850
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: I got next year, I'm doing Europe and Hawaii, so.

851
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: They'll catch all that sea in right.

852
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: Se scene Ryan. Yes, Yeah, I was named after Sean Connery.

853
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: Nice double seven.

854
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. My dad was high when I was born and

855
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: he was in the hospital watching James Bond movie.

856
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 2: And he named you while right after the movie or what.

857
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 1: I guess, like in between. First of all, I don't

858
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: understand why he was my brother and he was born.

859
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,919
Speaker 1: He was at a gig this time. He was there,

860
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: but he was preoccupied with James Bond, so that led

861
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: into naming me Sean after.

862
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: Sean Connery, after Sean Connery, and you're.

863
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: Gonna go to Europe, I'm gonna go yere up. This

864
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: will be my fifth time out there.

865
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 2: Oh you bet a bunch.

866
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.

867
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: What's your favorite city?

868
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: Lee Warden or is it Libwarden? That Germany that's in

869
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: the Netherlands. Beautiful city, just well you can have an

870
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: apple slice, a real Dutch you know, apple slice, and

871
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: then there's the river right there. It's just so beautiful.

872
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: Until the last five or six years. I'm a little

873
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: older now, so I say ten years, I really never traveled. Yeah,

874
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: and then I started.

875
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: To go to Europe.

876
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 2: Who and it's really really great. I wish everybody could

877
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 2: go because living here and never traveling, I had one

878
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: version of life. Right when you go to and I

879
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: went to Japan, that's not Europe. You just realize we're

880
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: just in this tight, little, tight yarn ball and we

881
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: don't get out of it, and we only know what

882
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: we're around. But to actually be immersed in another culture,

883
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: the world is so freaking big and cool.

884
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: And how common are we to each other?

885
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: So common? Right, It's we spend all this time focused

886
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: on how we're different because we're not spending time with

887
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: people that are different than us. When you do spend

888
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 2: time with people that are different than you realize you're

889
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: really not that different at all. Yeah, it's only the

890
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 2: couple of elements.

891
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: And then you'll see those patterns again to.

892
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: Man like Japan. So in Europe, I really loved going

893
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: to Vienna is and I think weather's probably a big

894
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: part of it too, because we went when it was

895
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 2: really nice. Been to Paris a couple of times in

896
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: the summer, a plus in the winter. Luckily, I went

897
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: in the summer and knew how awesome it was because

898
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 2: in the winter it sucked. It was so cold, just

899
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: cut it, just cut me in half. It reminded me

900
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: of Chicago in the winter, just so cold. Paris was

901
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: super cool. I went to Ireland that kind of blew well.

902
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: I went to Island by myself. I was finishing a

903
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: book and I just went because I put myself on

904
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: a different clock and meaning I knew my email was

905
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: not going to blow up in the middle of the

906
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: day when I was riding because I was on a

907
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 2: different clock than everybody else, right, I was seven hours ahead,

908
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: so my three pm they're just waking up nobody by

909
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: the time I'm going to bed there in the middle

910
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: of their day. So it kind of changed my schedule

911
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: so I wouldn't get so caught up in all the

912
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: other things that I would normally be doing. And the

913
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: problem is I don't drink. So I went to Ireland

914
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: one it's an island. I don't think I knew that

915
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: before I got there, because I thought, if this sucks,

916
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: I'll just get a train. You can't get a train

917
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: off an island. Yeah, So went to Ireland and it

918
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: was just all drinking all the time, I said the

919
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 2: hotel room wrote the freaking book.

920
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well maybe that was good, right.

921
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good. I think I would have Yeah.

922
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: So if Ireland wasn't really for me, at least the

923
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: parts that I that I saw. I love Italy. Have

924
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: been to Italy a couple different places. Have you been Italy? No?

925
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: Oh, no, that sounds that is one of those dreams.

926
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: It's great places. Yeah, I just you know, the weather

927
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: there is intense, it's super cold. When the first time,

928
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if this happened to you, but the

929
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: first time I went to Europe, I had the really massive,

930
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: bad cold, like my body was not used to that,

931
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: and then now it gets used to it. But I

932
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: love what you said about the time thing. It's very true.

933
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: A lot of my folks that are followers and stuff

934
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: are eight hours ahead from the different part of the world,

935
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: and it does kind of change your mind how you

936
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: see things. You start kind of doing business that way,

937
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, like I got to get up early because

938
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to catch this person already at nine o'clock.

939
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: At one point, my wife had a job in her

940
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: kind of version of her career where she was doing

941
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: a lot of international like trading, and so she'd have

942
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 2: to be up at midnight, one, two, three o'clock dealing

943
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: with people in Asia, right, doing commodities, and you know

944
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: it's noon for them.

945
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's actually in the midday.

946
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 2: You know why you have a decent following in Europe,

947
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: I do, actually, yeah, because it costs money to go

948
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: over there, right.

949
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's always the thing, you know, as an

950
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: artist everything you know, of course I love doing my

951
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: art and stuff. I have to make a living and

952
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: so I really I spend a lot of time, which

953
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 1: is why I strategize a lot, because I have there's

954
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: times in my life where I had no room for air.

955
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: I think you right, you know that's like and and

956
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: so it's just kind of now second ature. I just

957
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: always so. Yeah, I have a nice following. There a

958
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,479
Speaker 1: lot of fun people who still write me every day,

959
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to go back this year to

960
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: see them.

961
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 2: That's super cool. Who are your favorite five artists of

962
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 2: all time?

963
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm already partially prepared to this because one

964
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: of them is already air clafton right off the back case.

965
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: Steve Rayvaughan. All right, okay, we got that going on.

966
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 1: James Taylor? What was that? Three? I Carol King? What's that? Four? Oh?

967
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: I got to think of a new artist nowadays. Rosaliah.

968
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: You have tell me about Rosalia?

969
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: She just like does like Latin pop.

970
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: Mike, you know her. I go right to the Latin guy, go,

971
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 2: I go to the Mexican guy. Hey, Mike, that sounds Hispanic,

972
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: do you know?

973
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: Rosaliah? So there, yeah, so that you know, that's the

974
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: intro to the new music stuff to get out of

975
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 1: my normal taste, right, you got to do that once

976
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: in a while.

977
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: That's super cool. Well, I'm very excited you came by.

978
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me it's nice chatting with you,

979
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 1: by the way.

980
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, I appreciate that. I'm rooting for you.

981
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: Thank you.

982
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna spend more time stalking you now. I just

983
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: didn't want to be fully stalked when you got here

984
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: fifty feet Yeah, it sounds like somebody who who's had

985
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 2: that said to them before Sean, and it's Sean Ryan

986
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: Live Yes on Instagram. Yes, this has been awesome for me.

987
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you get a

988
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: lot of new fans from from this, people watching it

989
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: or listening to it. And what a weird way the

990
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: world works, because here we are, you and I just

991
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 2: hanging out when both of us three weeks ago, I

992
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: had no idea this was going to happen in this way.

993
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

994
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: So good to see you, man.

995
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. Thank you so much.

996
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 5: Thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production.