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Speaker 3: What's up? Everybody on Peanut too mean?

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Speaker 3: So John.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I love your passion and you're not disappointing

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Speaker 3: I knew you weren't going to Oh.

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Speaker 4: You know you came from college at Texas Valley, Texas A,

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Speaker 3: How do you say that?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: But what people don't.

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Speaker 1: Remember, don't think about. That's what Darryl Green unto Ah

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Speaker 3: So you guys got haull of famers.

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Speaker 3: Your brother's like, bro, don't do that.

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Speaker 4: Then you got the Minnesota your coach, believe in your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was playing. I was just mostly special team. Man.

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Speaker 3: You get a little guy, No, he's Tim Brown.

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Speaker 1: He got in mind right there, and I'm like, brouh,

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Speaker 1: I came up, man, ran down on the hands team

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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that had to hurt. Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: You became a full time starter in nineteen ninety one

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what did that moment feel like?

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Speaker 4: Carry great point, And let's talk about how you continue

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Speaker 4: Those seasons seven Pro Bowls total, like, how, like what

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Speaker 1: I feel like Sally feels you really do like me,

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Speaker 1: And I didn't care because for me, I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: Do you think that's it's a difference in today's game.

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Speaker 2: I was like, like Doc Holiday, I'll be a Huckleberry

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Speaker 1: You put your hands on Bruce. That's another pass rusher.

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Speaker 3: Hump, a little hump.

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Speaker 1: man Ken was always up in there. But I'm like, man,

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Speaker 1: if I was lined up outside, nobody over me, can

439
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: I'd get ten two? But I got to deal with

440
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Speaker 1: this garden. The center keeps flying to me every time.

441
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Speaker 3: What was your best pastors move back?

442
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 4: Then?

443
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Speaker 1: It was called like a jabbala where I stood on outside,

444
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Speaker 1: hit a hard step, and as soon as I saw

445
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Speaker 1: the guy hands come outside, I would either kind of

446
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: do a little little mental swim or rip it inside

447
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 1: go inside on him. But that was one I just

448
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: tried to just whatever For me, it wasn't about my

449
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 1: best move. It was what that guy was having problem

450
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Speaker 1: with because I would go back to the beginning of

451
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Speaker 1: the season or even last season to watch this guy

452
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Speaker 1: and see what moves he was beat on, and I

453
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Speaker 1: would perfect those moves for that week to be ready.

454
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Speaker 2: For that guy on that little method of my madness.

455
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Speaker 4: Like you just said madness, there's definitely some good madness.

456
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

457
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Speaker 4: I liked facing Calvin Johnson, you know, Randy Moss. Those

458
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 4: are like the guys that I enjoyed going against those

459
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Speaker 4: guys being in our division. Is there a quarterback or

460
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Speaker 4: was there a quarterback that you like to face?

461
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Speaker 1: That's definitely Brett Farr because he was in Wisconsin. Since

462
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Speaker 1: I'm in Minnesota. Yea, And Wisconsin's saying for some strange

463
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 1: reason they liked coming to Minnesota with that Green Bay

464
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: Packer stuff, like they were playing us that week. I'm like,

465
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Speaker 1: y'all not even playing us? Why are y'all even here?

466
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 1: You should be in Detroit. You're playing Detroit because we're

467
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, and so a lot of our

468
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: fans in Minnesota are either Vikings standing or the Packer fans,

469
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Speaker 1: and so for me, I always wanted to represent and

470
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Speaker 1: I always told my Vikings, man, I'm trying to do

471
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Speaker 1: whatever I can since I understand because they were telling

472
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Speaker 1: me at the time that their husband was a packer fan.

473
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Speaker 1: Whatever I said this week, you're gonna appreciate me because

474
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to do wherever I can to help

475
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Speaker 1: our team and help you your household.

476
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Speaker 2: You're gonna be the winner this week. And that's what

477
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Speaker 2: I tried to do.

478
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Speaker 4: So when I'm gonna flip that question, was there a

479
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 4: quarterback that you hated to go against?

480
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: Oh? Hated go against? That's a good question.

481
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: All the ones that just took off running like my

482
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: last few years played Michael Vick and I'm like, man,

483
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Speaker 1: this man right here.

484
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Speaker 2: This ain't right.

485
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Speaker 3: But did you ever have a sack on Vic?

486
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: I got him? Sure did?

487
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that was you know, me getting a sack,

488
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Speaker 1: And I think it was like my be the thirteenth year,

489
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, getting the sack, being the older defensive lineman.

490
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 2: And sitting down going you see that young bucks.

491
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Speaker 1: I got Vic, I meany y'all got on Vic old man.

492
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Speaker 1: But most of them, the mobile quarterbacks, they would just

493
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Speaker 1: take call and but I just liked for him to

494
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: a stand back there and we can run them wild

495
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: games come around the corner. Because we had to get

496
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: there because for me, my DB's who will put on

497
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: an island?

498
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Speaker 2: Thank you. Hey, I gotta protect y'all, man, thank you.

499
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: That was my thing. I don't want my dvs on

500
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Speaker 2: an island.

501
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Speaker 1: Bro.

502
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Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

503
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 2: It goes back to back to Texas's Friday night lights.

504
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: Man.

505
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, we got to get there, boys. We

506
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: owe it to our dB.

507
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 4: So all right, you're not only a Hall of Fame

508
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 4: football player, which you're also a Hall of Fame storyteller.

509
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: Thank you.

510
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 3: It's been fantastic. Spectaclar is the word that you like

511
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 3: to use like that? Do you like that?

512
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 4: I want to know this and hopefully you can tell

513
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,919
Speaker 4: me the story about it. Do you remember your only

514
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 4: NFL touchdown in your career?

515
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was it's the Giants.

516
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 1: That was It was after nine to eleven and we're

517
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: in New York and it was a tragic time and

518
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: I remember was taking a trip and uh, it was

519
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: just a strange time, man, you know, getting that in

520
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: New York as I'm like, I think that's something that

521
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: I cherish too, because it's New York's. Man, it's in

522
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: New York. It's I got a touchdown. I remember telling

523
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: the youngery man, y'all see the old man again. I

524
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: got something in New York that none of the line.

525
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 1: You got a touchdown, but it was spectacular. I remember it.

526
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: I couldn't even hear the crowd though, Man, I couldn't

527
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: hear the crowd. But getting on that ball amazing.

528
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Speaker 3: Did you keep the ball?

529
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: Yes, of course.

530
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 4: I mean you accomplished so much. I can't believe you

531
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 4: never had another way.

532
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I got interception on time, tried

533
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: to score it and against the forty nine ers. But

534
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: I think for me, I have so much more to accomplish.

535
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: And it's not on the field. It's definitely off the field.

536
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: And there's just so much more I want to do too,

537
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: And uh, it's there's so much more to tell my story.

538
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 4: Right, Well, let's talk about a little bit more of

539
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 4: that story. Okay, golf? Yeah, is this your new passion?

540
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 4: It's definitely mine. Let's let's talk about it.

541
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: Okay.

542
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 4: I heard you are are you are reportedly a twelve handicap.

543
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,640
Speaker 2: I am a U S G, A bro.

544
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, okay, I'm with it to I got it.

545
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: I have no idea what is what is gin? What

546
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: is it?

547
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: What is it?

548
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 4: What are we talking about? I'm like the listeners, We

549
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 4: have no idea what you guys so many.

550
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: Moss, give me a follow. You're on the outside. We're

551
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: actually inside. We'll bring me inside. I knocking, let me open.

552
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: We're gonna let you in, all right.

553
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 4: The GIN is like how people track your your your handicap,

554
00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 4: and so you record your scores after you play, after

555
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 4: each round you play, and it has this average about

556
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 4: where you are, and then that is what people use

557
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 4: as your handicap for when you play in tournaments. This

558
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 4: is how they crack how good you are. Like professionals

559
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 4: are like pluses, right, we're minus?

560
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

561
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 3: When did you get in the golf?

562
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: Well?

563
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: I was had kind of played before a little bit

564
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: here and there. But when I got in the Hall

565
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 1: of Fame Steve Perry, who's the president of Hall at

566
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 1: the time, it took me on the course. So I'm

567
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: with the president of Hall of Fame. You know, I'm

568
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: just like, man, I just got all. He was like,

569
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: do you play golf? I go play a little bit?

570
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: You know, I have my sticks and you know. So

571
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: we got out there and we were playing. I shot

572
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: like a ninety eight. I'm like, all right, ninety eight,

573
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: but you shoot He goes, you know, he shot like

574
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: a ninety two whatever, And I think a guy's name

575
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: was Dave Motts. Dave Motts comes up to me and goes, yeah,

576
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: you shot like a ninety eight, but you owe like

577
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: two hundred bucks. Well, see, you would last on the green,

578
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: you would last on the fairways, and you missed this

579
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: here hold, so you was off that one and I

580
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 1: was on that one first, and.

581
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: Steve Perry you were. You were on that on.

582
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: So Steve, you get twenty bucks for that, and you

583
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: owe me two hundred books. I'm like what, I'm like, okay,

584
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: gave me this two hundred bucks. And after that I

585
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: started practicing. Yeah, and I started reading this book by

586
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: Harvey Pennock, a little red book started teaching me about

587
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: golf and the strategy of golf. About most people, you

588
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: go to range, you pull out your driver, you want

589
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: to hit boom. Well it taught me that you know

590
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: you want to you want to chip and putt because

591
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: that's where you you hit every hole.

592
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: You chip and putt. You don't normally hit your driver

593
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: every hole.

594
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: So I started learning that to the point where I

595
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 1: didn't even have a driver. When I first started playing.

596
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: I had a three iron, a four iron. I'm like,

597
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: don't need a driver, and people will seeing you going

598
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: you don't have a driver, Like, nah, what you got

599
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: got My three hours I'm hearing are about two thirty forty.

600
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: Then I can play that. Yeah, and you can. Man,

601
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: you do that shot over and over. That's your percentage

602
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: right there, over and over again.

603
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: Man. I started playing.

604
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: Better and better, and I like walking because it's six

605
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: miles ruh to do the amount of walkings I do

606
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: on the golf course, and the winter in Minnesota takes

607
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: me two hours on the treadmill. So, man, walking on

608
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: the golf course, it's a beautiful thing. Beautiful thing watching

609
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: that ball when it's just.

610
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: Oh man, let's talk about some of the work you're

611
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 4: doing with the Llegenus community. Well just just tell us

612
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 4: what what is Allegen's community and what are you doing

613
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 4: with the alleged community specifically mental health?

614
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: Okay, the Legend community is by engaging, celebrating, and educating

615
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: former players. For me, it's more than that.

616
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: For me.

617
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: On the personal note, the Legends community is allowing me

618
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: to give back to guys who I played with. Who

619
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: the guys that say we're running games up on the

620
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: defensive line held.

621
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Speaker 2: A guy up and made the play. It allows me

622
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 2: to give back to guys.

623
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Speaker 1: And because for me, this game of football, man has

624
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: given me so much my wife. I met my wife

625
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, and I wouldn't have had that without football.

626
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: So for me to engage guys to give back to

627
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: his game and to be able to help guys who

628
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: come from the game and have injuries or mental health problems, man,

629
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: that's for me to help those guys out. Because being

630
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, I see a lot of former players I

631
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: played with, and when we have our Legends week once

632
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: a year, guys come back. Man, you're talking to guys

633
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: that I hadn't seen in twenty some years. I'm talking

634
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: to him finding out that they have issues. And being

635
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: a guy, we always think that we don't want to

636
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: tell what's going on with us. But a lot of

637
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: times guys will talk to the guys they played with.

638
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: They'll tell you what's going on before they tell their wives,

639
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: so before they tell their friends and family, they'll tell

640
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: from a player, And so me talking to these guys, man,

641
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: is putting them in a better place because to me,

642
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: you give so much on that football field, your blood,

643
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: sweat and tears. Man, I want to some way give

644
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: it back to you by making it life a little

645
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: bit easier and giving you information about what's out there

646
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: that you may not know about. And I saw I

647
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: do that through the Legends community and being a part

648
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: of it is just wonderful, man, because you can come

649
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: to somebody who's got a frown on that face, and

650
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: when you get done talking to them, they've got to

651
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: smile on the face. Man, Because when the guys see you,

652
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: they don't just see you. You bring back memories to him.

653
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. So man, when you talking to him, it's the brotherhood, you.

654
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 4: Know, John, You know we all share locker rooms, and

655
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 4: maybe it is that memory aspect. But I want to

656
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: ask you anyways, it's like, why do we share so

657
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 4: much easily with our own versus Like I was like,

658
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 4: we would do that, You're right. I don't know if

659
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 4: I've heard it put that way, but I don't know

660
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 4: why I was so much more open to share stories

661
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 4: with you or Peanut or any other football guys walking

662
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 4: around than I am, sometimes with my own brother or.

663
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: Because for me, it's part like the military. When you're

664
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: in a foxhold with somebody and you spend ten to

665
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: twelve hours a day with each other, man, you get

666
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: to know each other and you're talking about stuff. And

667
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: I had so many conversations that locker room with guys

668
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: talking about their kids. I mean, Benson Lafe fish Gerald

669
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: grew up in our locker room. Yeah, Kim Jordan grew

670
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: up in our locker room. So I have a relationship

671
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: with those guys. That's from being in that locker room.

672
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: That's from like being your neighbor, but being that neighbor

673
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: where who sits outside in his chair and he has

674
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,479
Speaker 1: another chair for you. You come out here and y'all

675
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: sit and talk and the conversation goes wherever you guys

676
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: want it.

677
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: And that's that foxhole.

678
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: Man. You day in, day out, you're out there balland

679
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: he was looking at each other eyes like today's not

680
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: a good day. I'm playing all right, but I wish

681
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: I was doing better. But you talk to him here, hey, man,

682
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: we in this together, bro in this together. And that's

683
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: what it's like in there. And like I said, that blood,

684
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: sweat and tears. But you share lives, man, you share

685
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: emotional time Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's.

686
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: Because you're practice and that's every day.

687
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: Man.

688
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: You coming in there a lot of times, guys, we'll

689
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: get together and we have conversation. And I may have

690
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: forgot about it this man. You remember when we were

691
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: hanging out and all of a sudden I was going

692
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: through something, man.

693
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 2: And you stayed with me. Man, But he goes, why

694
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: are you stay? Man?

695
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: With teammates and that teammate more than just teammates, Man,

696
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: it's family. To me, that's family. And it's just like

697
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: here in Canton, everybody, each class says we're coming back.

698
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: Every year we can come back. And when you see

699
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: these guys come back, Man, it's more than just football.

700
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 4: Man.

701
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: It's great memories, bad memories, but it's togetherness. And that's

702
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: that locker room. Outside of the locker room.

703
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you talked about family.

704
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 4: And as we did some research, we learned that one

705
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 4: thing that you would do is after the seasons, you

706
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 4: would drive all the way back to Texas. Yeah, fifteen

707
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 4: hours maybe longer, Yeah, all the way back.

708
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, why did you start doing that?

709
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: Because it gave me a time, a chance to reflect

710
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: over the season, reflect on things I did and things

711
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: I didn't do.

712
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: That.

713
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 1: I wanted to have that time to myself because during

714
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: the football season, man, you're running round you doing this,

715
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: doing that, and it allowed me to reflect, allowed me

716
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: to drive and listen to one of my favorite bands,

717
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: you too for your YouTube.

718
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: Call him a huge.

719
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 1: YouTube guy, broy Man, Joshua Tree. Come on, bro, that's

720
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: what it's like most guys on Game Baby listening to

721
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 1: some back Then Biggie and all this and that and

722
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: some a C d C Metallica. I'm only listen to YouTube.

723
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: Bon No, Joshua Tree. Brother, I'm just sitting there to do.

724
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get it there. I'm already there.

725
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to calm it down, just trying to Yeah,

726
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: that was me. So driving back, driving the Texas allowed

727
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: me to do that, and I enjoyed it. It was

728
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: just peaceful time, man, just from all thentness and all that.

729
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: Just to roll the windows down. Man, I'm like driving

730
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: on the old Woo. Yes, I enjoyed it.

731
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: We're going to take a short break and we'll be

732
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 3: right back that earlier.

733
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: You know in the in the pod, you said you

734
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 4: have so much more to do.

735
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, what did you mean by that?

736
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 4: You know what?

737
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know there's more for me coming.

738
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: I mean, like fence in Minnesota. I'm involved with charities.

739
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: My son was born, he was special needs, so we

740
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: got involved with a special needs school. We helped him

741
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: raise twenty one million dollars and didn't We didn't want

742
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: to pay any from it, but we just wanted to

743
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: help other families who might have been going through what

744
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: we were going through with a special needs child because

745
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: we didn't know where which direction to turn. So being

746
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: able to do that, man, that just opened the door

747
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: for so many other families get involved with the first

748
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: tea program, I'm involved with, tal based Army. Uh, just

749
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: numerous charities I'm involved in Minnesota. It just allowed me

750
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: to give back to the community that gave me so much.

751
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: And like I said, there's there's other stuff that's coming.

752
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: I don't know yet, but I know that God has

753
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: more plan for me, so I just continue on my journey.

754
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: So I got a friend of mine that paints his

755
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 4: face yeah for game days, right, And it started with

756
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 4: just this, Yeah, then it kind of goes a little

757
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: bit down and around. Then he starts feeling in the blanks.

758
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 4: Now he's got dots on his head, and he just

759
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 4: kept going, Yeah, how did George start? Because you were

760
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 4: one of the first guys that I remember as like

761
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: a black dude that was like blacked out underneath the

762
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 4: pace past.

763
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: It was so because nobody just starts with the whole thing. Yeah,

764
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 3: so there we go, walk me through the process. Starts

765
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 3: under the eyes.

766
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, we just start my eyes. And so.

767
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: I had some very this is an interesting defense lineman

768
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: for sure. And one guy was from like Florida State,

769
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: and uh the name Derrick Alexander, you call him d A.

770
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: And so Die goes, Man, you know what we're gonna do.

771
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I hope it im. I'm sure it's gonna

772
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: be something that I'm not gonna I might may regret.

773
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna wear fatigus to the home game. I'm like, yeah,

774
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: why shouldn't we DA, We're gonna wear for tigus. Then

775
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: he goes, you know what we're gonna do. We're gonna

776
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: put paint on like like military guys. I'm like, yeah,

777
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: why not, DA? So so then we had one guy

778
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: from a flight from Missouri. He goes, man, I'm gonna

779
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: rub it on my chest. I'm like, yeah, you should.

780
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm kind of sitting there watching him. He's rubbing it

781
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: like this. One guy just goes across the state with

782
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: some marta dude that and as I'm watching them, and

783
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: I just kind of got into my eyes.

784
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, the you do what? What?

785
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 2: What is going on?

786
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: And then forgot that that rose on my face and

787
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: he turned around, Oh look at Johnny Man, that's what

788
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Look at him, but look in the mirror.

789
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: So I looked at him like all right, I'm with y'all.

790
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: So I go in the game and I got like

791
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: three sacks. Man, I'm glad you got to do it.

792
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: You're talking about superstit. So me going, you know what,

793
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: this right here got me three? What if I do

794
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: it all over my I should get four maybe five.

795
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: So I don't get four, don't get three, I'm going,

796
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: you know what, I gotta do it again. So I

797
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, what if I don't take

798
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: a shower for about two days? Hm hmm, I'll try that.

799
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: So no shower, Then what if I wear the same

800
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: clothes the whole week practice.

801
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: So I did that, and I'm like, it is.

802
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,839
Speaker 3: This work, this work.

803
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: We were just like we would.

804
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just I was just thinking of stuff.

805
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, just sitting you know what. I'm like, Hey, what was.

806
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 4: The Wallace superstition? You guys came up with? What do

807
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 4: you think the Wallace one was?

808
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: Oh, that's the easy one.

809
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: Now on game day and there's Mike Tice is witnessed

810
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: this one day, so Random McDaniel, Hall of Famer. He

811
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: used to get the practice early. So Random was like,

812
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: my guy, I would do what he does so he

813
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: would get to he would get the games early. So

814
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: back then they put the programs in the chairs, and

815
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, some of these programs have bad juju, some

816
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: have good juju. I'm like the guys who have the

817
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 1: most juju, the guys who don't do anything no offense

818
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: to them, the kickers and the pawners. So I would

819
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: take the guys and just rub them all over me.

820
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: And I'm rubbing all over me Random, I'm not paying attention.

821
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: Mike Tice walks in the locker room and he's witnessing me.

822
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: Just rub them all over to go, what are you doing, Mike?

823
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: It got good juju? You want some of this good juju?

824
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: And he was so. That was one of my crazy

825
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: superstitions man.

826
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: And did it work?

827
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: Yes?

828
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: How long did you do this?

829
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: I did it every game? Man. I don't know like

830
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: any four five, just some dumb playing.

831
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: Most people.

832
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 4: For those that don't know, if you've never been inside

833
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 4: the NFL locker room, each guy has his own superstition

834
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 4: or he has a way of how he gets raised.

835
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 3: Yes, for a game, it might be socks or that,

836
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 3: or some people don't warm up. Some people yes.

837
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

838
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: We had guys who just come in off the street,

839
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: put on a shirt, put on his shoulder pads.

840
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,959
Speaker 2: I had to pull like water on my shoulder pad. Lose.

841
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: We had one guy running around the locker room, go,

842
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: nobody can block me and just run around like you

843
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: have to say, I'm weird dude running around.

844
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: Nobody didn't block me. Nobody. I'm like, okay, I'd respect

845
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: everybody doing their own thing.

846
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: We're all a little OCD on game day, I will.

847
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 4: I had my own OSD stuff off of OCD stuff

848
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 4: that I used to do, and mine.

849
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 3: Was I got to this.

850
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: I was one of the first players to go to

851
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 4: the stadium like I went over with the I went

852
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 4: over with the trainers and the doctors. Yes, I took

853
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 4: a shower, gotten a cold, gotten hot up. I had

854
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: a specific trainer take my ankles. I were contacts, so

855
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 4: I had another specific trainer helped me with my contacts.

856
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 4: I waited for Langs to come over. We would go out.

857
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: We would have to run.

858
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,800
Speaker 4: Two hundred yards. Then I'll have to do certain drills.

859
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 4: He would do certain drills. Then we would play a game,

860
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 4: and then I'd go in. I'd ray, I'd warm up

861
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 4: a little bit, tell some myself my like, no one

862
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 4: can I can guard can't, no one stop me.

863
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't, I can't. I can read it.

864
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 4: Like I was that guy. I just didn't run around

865
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: the locker room telling everybody.

866
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 3: I did that.

867
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 4: And then I would hold certain players hands when I prayed.

868
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 4: I would it would have to be certain certain people

869
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 4: when I prayed. And then I would run out on

870
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 4: the field and then I would take the grass like

871
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 4: in Gladiator. Yes, I would take it and I would

872
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 4: sniff it even on turf, like I would. I would

873
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 4: sniff it. Let's go, And that was then I was ready.

874
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 4: That was like my routine.

875
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: I had another one, which was I didn't want nobody

876
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: to touch me before the game, Like we had to

877
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: go over out there shake hands, like I can't. I

878
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: can't shake your hand. You're trying to take my juju.

879
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: I just worked on me juju in there. Down, let

880
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 1: your hand. I'm like, I can't do it. So but

881
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: everybody wh team knew it. They go, man, Johnny on

882
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: like the touch.

883
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: Don't say the.

884
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: Enemy. This dude could be my best friend over there.

885
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: I'm like, I ain't talking to him. Hey you Hey,

886
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: what this game right now?

887
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 2: You the enemy.

888
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: You're trying to take what we want here, we're Vikings.

889
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: They're coming to pillages from you. Do we take it

890
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: from you? Ravaging pillage with Ragna Ragnaw Lockberg coming bro.

891
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 4: It's a great show too, great show, Great show, Vikings,

892
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 4: great show. I'm trying to think my I had a

893
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 4: little bit of a pregame like college, I had to

894
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 4: do like I had bands and I had to do

895
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 4: arms like that was like my things. I just wanted

896
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 4: to have arms gonna swollen. Had to in college. Then

897
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 4: got your league not so much. Then you kind of

898
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 4: have like these pregame rituals. But I think my biggest

899
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 4: thing was that I wanted to always rode the same

900
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 4: bus to the stadium. Whenever we drove bus is always

901
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 4: robust too, and then I had to listen to certain

902
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 4: music going into it.

903
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: I usually like the coach on the defensive.

904
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 4: Side that threw the worst, the worst ball, because DB's

905
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: never get like a good solid just throwing it right

906
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 4: to me. So I always wanted somebody to throw like

907
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 4: a terrible, terrible, terrible throws to me because then you know,

908
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 4: you work on catching bad ball.

909
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes you better, It makes you better. Come on, yeah, yeah, because.

910
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 4: DB's you got to get used to catching a back bone.

911
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 4: So if you don't, you think it's just gonna be pretty,

912
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 4: you never do it never goes to.

913
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: Go to receiver.

914
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 4: It there we go. So that's why that was like

915
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 4: a thing for me. And I did my own little

916
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 4: drills and then I'd run. But yeah, it was not

917
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 4: as much as what you guys were into. I'm very

918
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 4: shocked there, da.

919
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: I mean for me office and Linan a different defense

920
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: line office and Linman. You know that they they act

921
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: off movement, they moving, but us we move off, we

922
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: react off movement.

923
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: Yes, so we all we.

924
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: Sit there and do hand slaps and stuff and all

925
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,240
Speaker 1: this stuff we work on get off. You know who's

926
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: who's coming up of all the fastest. It's all about

927
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: just be high energy. You just look intense like you

928
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: know we our coach Turli, he wouldn't show you not

929
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: all the time reels of plays held go.

930
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: We are like gazelles.

931
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: We have to run and we have to pee you

932
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 1: while we were running, poop while we're running. We are

933
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: like alligating the crocodile. We gotta grab the quarterback and

934
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: spin him down because he's trying to throw the ball.

935
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: So we are part of nature, but we're a different

936
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,760
Speaker 1: part of nature, and we gotta remember that. You get zelles,

937
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: you're always running, always moving, never sitting. Steal I believed it.

938
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: Man mal Rushmore. There's four You get four people. You

939
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 4: get four picks of people that have helped you become

940
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 4: the man you are today.

941
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: Who would those four people be?

942
00:47:55,440 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, thereould be uh probably Dennis Green him

943
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: a chance to really play the way I wanted to play.

944
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: He knew it even before I knew it.

945
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: Did Dinnis Green tell you that?

946
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: Well, No, he and through John Turlink, he did. John

947
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: Thurlink was like, he goes, We're going to allow you

948
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: to be you. And I'm like, what do you mean?

949
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: He goes, We're gonna let you be you. And that's

950
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: how we presented it. And practice, I tried to perfect

951
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: my game in practice. I went forward till tell me,

952
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: if I can't do it in practice, I can't do

953
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: it in the game. And so he allowed me to

954
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: do that. So he, Dennis Green did that. My mom

955
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: who basically when I quit football in high school because

956
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: I got tired of hitch hiking trying to trying to

957
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: play football, and she set me down, go why do

958
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: you want to quit? I said, I just want to

959
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: hang out my friends. I'm tired of trying to catch

960
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: a ride home. And so she took me over to

961
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: the junior how to watch those kids who were playing basketball.

962
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: She goes, that's basically said, baby, that's what you want

963
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: to do. You have all the time in the world

964
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,720
Speaker 1: to do that. And so I went back to football.

965
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: So my mom coach Green h and probably be Paul Wiggins,

966
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: who kept me on the team my rookie year when

967
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: everybody else said, now you're you're I don't see anything.

968
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 1: Paul Wiggins, who was the head coach at Cleveland, the

969
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: head coach I think at Stanford. He was that guy.

970
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: And Paul was soft spoken even though he told me

971
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: hang on. He was the reason that I probably made

972
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: the vikings and be those people. But man, I could

973
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:43,280
Speaker 1: go on on my agent, who who is Who's actually

974
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: here because of another player, Eric Allen? Yeah he's Gary

975
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: is here to see Eric. And Gary helped me immensely

976
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: man from not just the football part of it, but

977
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: financial telling me, hey, you know, hey, you need this. Yes,

978
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: So those people for me and now my wife who

979
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: I married and being retired, has really been the one

980
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: for me. Just my best friend, first time I can

981
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: talk to. She's not gonna hold back and that's what

982
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate. She's straightforward and for me.

983
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 2: Man, oh beautiful. Yeah, it's a good mountain. Thank you.

984
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 4: That's a good mountain.

985
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 2: Rushmore. Thank you.

986
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 4: Hey man, that's that's it. You you off the hot seat.

987
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 4: I thank you. We can't thank you enough for just

988
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 4: helping us out and just really pouring in as Room

989
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 4: said it earlier, Master storyteller, you.

990
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: Are spectac tack it.

991
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: That's well Thank you, guys. I've watched you guys, and

992
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: I appreciate what you're doing. Uh, when you guys are

993
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 1: doing this, man, you guys, you're not looking like you're

994
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: mad about you. You have smiles on your faces.

995
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 2: Man.

996
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,799
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997
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 4: to bring enjoying to you.

998
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,520
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999
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1000
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Speaker 4: I stayed laugh from the whole time, and hopefully all

1001
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