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Speaker 1: Ben Maller starts right now. A key wee delight. We
Speaker 1: are in the air everywhere the vast powerful network of
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Speaker 1: can find us where there's on iHeart or any of
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Speaker 1: a spinoff of the radio show. We don't do guests
Speaker 1: on the radio show. This is an interview podcast and
Speaker 1: we will welcome in a friend in a minute. But
Speaker 1: first of all, we've got to be asked for for
Speaker 1: at least a couple of minutes, and for better or
Speaker 1: worse yet again, joined by David Gascony for better, Ben always, always, always.
Speaker 1: For about the last week, a lot of complaints about
Speaker 1: the quality of the audio. Very upset by that, you
Speaker 1: know they can complain. Why don't we complain about the
Speaker 1: people listening to the audio. Yeah, no, we should complain
Speaker 1: about them about them, yeah, I mean, and we don't
Speaker 1: know who they are. I don't you know, Well, of
Speaker 1: course you do. They're the ones kind of reaching out
Speaker 1: to you email, text messages, Facebook posts, tweets. That's true,
Speaker 1: a lot of complaints all platforms. People were complaining about
Speaker 1: the audio, so they were complaining about the free content
Speaker 1: they were getting. Yes, yes, that is that is correct.
Speaker 1: That is accurate. So uh, anyway, before we get into
Speaker 1: the person, I'm actually excited to talk to this guy
Speaker 1: because I've known him for years and he's another one
Speaker 1: of my radio friends. I don't have too many radio friends,
Speaker 1: but I consider him a radio friend, even though we've
Speaker 1: never actually met. Kind of dancing around this, but before
Speaker 1: we get to that. I was very excited the other
Speaker 1: day because I did another cameo guests Gun And the
Speaker 1: only place I've mentioned my my cameo is on the podcast.
Speaker 1: I haven't talked about it. I've maybe made some loose
Speaker 1: references on radio on the radio show, but I haven't.
Speaker 1: I don't think i've tweeted out anything. I don't think
Speaker 1: i've put anything on the Facebook page or Instagram, which
Speaker 1: is that they tell you to do that. They tell
Speaker 1: you the people a cameo say you should put that
Speaker 1: on Twitter, put that on Instagram. No, the only place
Speaker 1: I talked about it is on the podcast. And if
Speaker 1: you don't know what cameo is pretty cool. There's like
Speaker 1: really big name people and then there's like nobody's like
Speaker 1: me that are on there and uh, and you can
Speaker 1: get a personalized video message and it doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be you know, typically they say it's for birthdays or
Speaker 1: for you know, big big events, weddings, you know, anniversaries,
Speaker 1: things like that, which is all good stuff. It's all
Speaker 1: good stuff to do that, but it doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be I mean, I've had people who have requested cameos
Speaker 1: for name Rundowns, your nickname Rundowns, or or just wanted
Speaker 1: to hear a rift about you know, some random topic
Speaker 1: or something like that. I have yet to get one
Speaker 1: where you want asked for for Bella, for Bella to
Speaker 1: be in the video that does not happened. I think
Speaker 1: that might be a little tough because I gotta hold
Speaker 1: the camera and then hold Bella. That might be tough.
Speaker 1: But I'm only to try it. But anyway, so check
Speaker 1: that out if you want. It'd be great. A lot
Speaker 1: of stuff on the weekends pops up there, it seems
Speaker 1: when we do the podcast, people and hey, that sounds
Speaker 1: like a good idea and big super fans of the show.
Speaker 1: So it's cameo dot com, Ben Mallard and uh, guests gone,
Speaker 1: you're on there also right at David J. Gascon, Ben,
Speaker 1: I was, I was looking online in honor of your
Speaker 1: your guests, that your buddy that comes on and visiting
Speaker 1: us here the next couple of minutes. Um, we could
Speaker 1: get even during a pandemic, we can get round trip
Speaker 1: tickets twelve dollars to fly down Under. And I know
Speaker 1: you need some leg space, and I thinking today's climate,
Speaker 1: today's pandemic, you'd probably find a lot of leg space
Speaker 1: on the seven seventies seven right now, given the fact
Speaker 1: that most people aren't flying, especially overseas and down How
Speaker 1: long is that flight? How long is that? I want
Speaker 1: to say it is a fourteen hour flight. No, it's
Speaker 1: twelve hours and fifty five minutes. Oh man, this is beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's a long time. No. Uh, I wasn't a plane
Speaker 1: one time. For twelve hours. But that was because we
Speaker 1: got grounded at O'Hare in a lightning storm. We had taxied,
Speaker 1: we had started to get ready for the takeoff. We
Speaker 1: had left the gate. Then they said, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: there's a storm coming in off Lake Michigan or whatever,
Speaker 1: and so we tried to come back but we couldn't.
Speaker 1: There was no gate available, so way to park the plane,
Speaker 1: and that storm took a couple of hours to pass over.
Speaker 1: Now are you saying like lightning and thunder and rain?
Speaker 1: Are you saying gunfire? No? No, No, it's although it
Speaker 1: sounds you know that the thunder and all that kind
Speaker 1: of sounds like like like that. But but anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I know, I don't really want to spend that
Speaker 1: long in a play. I'd like to go. I'd like
Speaker 1: to go and can you beat me up or something
Speaker 1: like that. We can talk to elon Musk. I'm sure
Speaker 1: I'll have something an act couple of years exactly right,
Speaker 1: Uh hey, before we forget, you know. Twitter Ben Maller, Instagram,
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Speaker 1: at Dave Gascon. Alright, so joining us on today's edition
Speaker 1: of the Fifth Hour, I am excited to welcome a
Speaker 1: grizzled veteran of the radio wars and someone that I
Speaker 1: worked with as a colleague as an international correspondent for
Speaker 1: over a decade. Darcy walder Grave. Now Darcy walder Grave
Speaker 1: does radio in New Zealand in Auckland, New Zealand, which
Speaker 1: is a big metropolis of a city there in New Zealand,
Speaker 1: the biggest city in New Zealand. And uh, it's an
Speaker 1: interesting guy. He's gonna give us the New Zealand perspective
Speaker 1: on how they see American sports life in America. I imagine, Well,
Speaker 1: at some point get to the famous name of the
Speaker 1: national team, they're the All Blacks, which always comes up
Speaker 1: on our show, showing that up at some point. So
Speaker 1: Darcy had it been on the radio for almost two decades,
Speaker 1: and he actually had and I know we'll get to
Speaker 1: this as well, his network. When the apocalypse began, they
Speaker 1: shut the entire thing down, They fired everybody. Everyone was
Speaker 1: out of work that had been broadcasting as a part
Speaker 1: of that. So let's give it up here for Darcy
Speaker 1: waldor Gray, my longtime radio friend and Darcy, how the
Speaker 1: heck is live treating you? My man? I'm good. I'm
Speaker 1: sitting here as the sun's coming out and good old
Speaker 1: New Zealand, and I've got my hat on my left
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna my dressing game. And the beautiful woman
Speaker 1: that I just meet three weeks ago, I was asleep
Speaker 1: in my day, so I couldn't be happier. That's a
Speaker 1: good thing. That's a great start. That is a good start.
Speaker 1: So what is that, Darcy for? I think most people
Speaker 1: who we obviously talked about this already in the open
Speaker 1: for this podcast. But we worked together remotely for how
Speaker 1: long was I on? I was on your show when
Speaker 1: you started you were doing a morning show when I
Speaker 1: first popped on as an international correspondent. But we we
Speaker 1: worked together for it probably about ten years, I think,
Speaker 1: somewhere around that neighborhood right somewhere. Tenious plus. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was a long time on my um hold on my
Speaker 1: Little Girls coming Up team, and I was doing the
Speaker 1: breakfast show at Radio Sports when um I when when
Speaker 1: my wife was pregnant with her my ex wife. So
Speaker 1: that's that's yes, it's tenious plus yeah. And uh, and
Speaker 1: so when I when I talked and on my show,
Speaker 1: I talked about your show and in your your station
Speaker 1: carried the show. But people are like, why would you
Speaker 1: know a station in New Zealand and network in New
Speaker 1: Zealand want to have somebody on from the US. But like, explain, Darcy,
Speaker 1: like you've covered sports there a long time, Like how
Speaker 1: what American sports are big in New Zealand? Like what where?
Speaker 1: Where is the pulse of the people there when it
Speaker 1: comes to the sports in North America, it's quite it's
Speaker 1: quite funny. It's it's almost almost cool to have an
Speaker 1: American sports team. There's a great movement of New Zealand
Speaker 1: sports fans that have chosen and they've got American basketball
Speaker 1: teams that they follow, American football teams that they follow,
Speaker 1: American hockey teams that they follow. That there are three
Speaker 1: main sports. Obviously, there's a lot of people who enjoy
Speaker 1: golfing as you guys see going thinking them and around
Speaker 1: at golf. Of course, Tiger Woods is huge, and we're
Speaker 1: always keen to listen to what's going on in America.
Speaker 1: But's it's basketball, football, and it's hockey. And then there
Speaker 1: are three sports that a lot of guys really really
Speaker 1: hook and do it. Say guys, because genially it's men.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of women as well into their American sports.
Speaker 1: There's there's something about it, and there's our breakfast. Guys
Speaker 1: probably took more American sport than New Zealand sport in
Speaker 1: the morning sometimes, which can can infuriate some people. But
Speaker 1: there's a there's a huge movement. People really always have
Speaker 1: their teams, may identify with the team. I'm not quite
Speaker 1: sure how they catch up with their teams, but they
Speaker 1: identify with these teams. And a lot of people go
Speaker 1: back to the States, go to the States just to
Speaker 1: experience live sport in the States, be at basketball or
Speaker 1: football or hockey. They're the ones that they get a
Speaker 1: real kick on it. I've chosen to follow the worst
Speaker 1: teams in American sport just because of funny more than
Speaker 1: anything else. And you know, being that, I started following
Speaker 1: the Jackson Bille Jaguars on your recommendation because they were,
Speaker 1: as you'd like to score it, a dumpster fire. So
Speaker 1: I've been following the dumpster fire for a number of
Speaker 1: years now. I find it highly entertaining my own personal
Speaker 1: involvement like everybody else. When Michael Jordan's first got onto
Speaker 1: the scene. I was a massive basketball fan of the
Speaker 1: Bulls right the way through that dynastry. I used to
Speaker 1: sell real estate back in the days um and I
Speaker 1: was a realtor, and I used to disappear from the
Speaker 1: office around about mid day every time Jordan was on,
Speaker 1: go to the local pub over the road and sit
Speaker 1: there for four hours. Instead of selling real estate, I'll
Speaker 1: be watching his anders playball and hockey. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I've watched it live a few times over here, but
Speaker 1: it's just too fast. I can't even watch the park.
Speaker 1: I can't even follow. I don't know what those guys
Speaker 1: are doing. I just no, they really fit and really aggressive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's the same compla because here, like with hockey,
Speaker 1: that the problem is it doesn't translate to television very much.
Speaker 1: You've got to like be in the arena to watch
Speaker 1: it in In that way, it's more enjoyable and and
Speaker 1: as as a real estate mugul Darcy, I think it's
Speaker 1: expected that you don't actually do your job and you
Speaker 1: just kind of hang out and watch sports a lot.
Speaker 1: Like it's like those sales guys at radio stations that
Speaker 1: golf all the time. You know, it's like that same,
Speaker 1: that same concept, right, because in real estate, you sell
Speaker 1: a house, you're making a great profit on that right
Speaker 1: of a great return and you don't have to sell
Speaker 1: that many houses. Yeah, but all was terrible. Let's not
Speaker 1: forget that. I mean, I look at myself. I was
Speaker 1: twenty three years old when I started selling real estate,
Speaker 1: and who would buy a house, a used house off
Speaker 1: the twenty three year old guy with a sports habit
Speaker 1: on the side. It was. It was a disaster to
Speaker 1: be frank. I did it for two and a half
Speaker 1: years and and I really realized that I was never
Speaker 1: gonna make any money out of it. More, I really
Speaker 1: wanted that there was get on the radio and talk.
Speaker 1: So I left real estate and I became even more
Speaker 1: impoverioused and chased my dream of being a radio host.
Speaker 1: And then I moved up to Auckland, and after a
Speaker 1: year and a half of serving drunks and cleaning astrays
Speaker 1: in a local bar, I got a break to do
Speaker 1: the night show at at Radio Sport, the national station.
Speaker 1: So I did a show from eight to on midnight,
Speaker 1: and I did that for four years. I was very stubborn.
Speaker 1: I refused to leave and then I kind of moved
Speaker 1: up through the ranks. And then only three or four
Speaker 1: months ago, at the start of COVID, the powers that
Speaker 1: be at en Z Meat, which is our parent company,
Speaker 1: decided that radio sport up to twenty two years was
Speaker 1: no more and they pulled the plug on it. They
Speaker 1: gassed us, and that ended my eighteen year career as
Speaker 1: a radio host. But I'd like to see myself as
Speaker 1: a cockroach. And I lived for eighteen years under the
Speaker 1: radio sports fridge. And when they moved the fridge, I
Speaker 1: scuttled under the News Talk zb oven and I'm living
Speaker 1: there now. And News Talks d B as the runaway
Speaker 1: juggonnaut of broadcast radio talk radio here in New Zealand.
Speaker 1: So I was handed a lifeline by the people at
Speaker 1: News Talks d be so dramatic cut an hour's reasonable,
Speaker 1: dramatic cut and salary. To be fair, I've lost a
Speaker 1: lot of my fat. But I'm doing something I absolutely loved.
Speaker 1: And uh, as long as I got enough to buy
Speaker 1: myself the odd CROSSI beer of the weekend, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, play for a bit of food and put
Speaker 1: my girl through school, IL really don't care. And I'm
Speaker 1: doing what I love and that's the main reason, that's
Speaker 1: why I existed. Be sure to catch live editions of
Speaker 1: The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two a m. Eastern
Speaker 1: eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio app. Well listen, it's it's great. And I
Speaker 1: did want to talk about that, Darcy, because people were
Speaker 1: you know, people have asked. I've gotten some some guys
Speaker 1: who were big fans in New Zealand who started listening
Speaker 1: to me because of your show, and and and Radio
Speaker 1: Sport actually carried my the syndicated show some of the
Speaker 1: Fox products overnight. Uh well, not even overnight. We were
Speaker 1: on in the evenings, I guess right. We were on
Speaker 1: kind of like late nights in New Zealand. They would
Speaker 1: carry our show at night. And then I went on.
Speaker 1: I was on with you for so long, and we
Speaker 1: built up a little following there, the Mini Mallard Militia
Speaker 1: in New Zealand, which was kind of cool. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it stopped when the apocalypse hit.
Speaker 1: And so you know what, give me the inside skinny
Speaker 1: dicey was this? I mean, it certainly seems like they
Speaker 1: just shut it down because of the pandemic, But was
Speaker 1: this going to happen anyway? It was this just a
Speaker 1: case where the people, the overlords of the radio station
Speaker 1: just saw this as an opportunity to shut it down,
Speaker 1: or were they never going to shut this down if
Speaker 1: this pandemic hadn't happened. Well, a number of a number
Speaker 1: of situations arose because of the pandemic. And previously we
Speaker 1: Radio Sport was covering our national summer game cricket, which
Speaker 1: is something I'm not even going to try and explain
Speaker 1: to my American breather, and it's far too complex. I'll
Speaker 1: put it that way. Eleven guys stand around on a
Speaker 1: field wearing all white while two other guys wearing all
Speaker 1: white with a bat all day there all day, The
Speaker 1: innings go for six hours of the day, and they
Speaker 1: go for five days and probably you know, six times
Speaker 1: out of team, nobody wins the game after that. After
Speaker 1: that five days, it's a very straight sports so and
Speaker 1: trying to explain it to you, I could use some
Speaker 1: baseball analogies, but even that would be too much. So
Speaker 1: we covered that and that's how I got into actually
Speaker 1: sport radio. I used to sit down in my backyard
Speaker 1: hitting cherries, as a off my off my tree is
Speaker 1: an eight year old boy listening to radio sports Sports
Speaker 1: wound up coverage of live cricket and that started my
Speaker 1: passing for the trade. So we lost the coverage rights
Speaker 1: of that after seemed like generations and a lot of
Speaker 1: people think that once the cricket wink, which is one
Speaker 1: of our main stays, that that made it a little
Speaker 1: easier for the company maybe to let the concepts go
Speaker 1: now that this is what people think. Management are like, No,
Speaker 1: we we just could not afford to run it anymore
Speaker 1: because we're a very expensive station. As you know, sports
Speaker 1: rights do not come cheap when we cover off predominantly
Speaker 1: we're a live sports station. We did a lot of rugby,
Speaker 1: with a lot of rugby league, with a lot of cricket.
Speaker 1: We covered as much as we could. We go to
Speaker 1: Olympic games, we've got to come off games. We go
Speaker 1: to World Cups, we go to football World Cups. We
Speaker 1: got Rugby World guards, Cricket World Up. So we've seen
Speaker 1: the palons of people over the cover these sports. And
Speaker 1: even though the station itself made a lot of money,
Speaker 1: it also cost a lot of money to run. And
Speaker 1: I think when the bottom fell out of the market
Speaker 1: and there was no money anymore. Some of the bean
Speaker 1: counters we looked, listens, we can't justify this anymore. Um.
Speaker 1: Other people will say the writing was on the wall
Speaker 1: when we lost the cricket, so as a transpired, they went, look,
Speaker 1: we can't do this anymore and they plugged it. It It
Speaker 1: was a very surreal hour at the start of the
Speaker 1: COVID crisis, sitting here on my couch being told by
Speaker 1: everybody you know in management that the radio sport was
Speaker 1: now long. It was that was I don't want to
Speaker 1: trivialize death, but it was like a death in the family,
Speaker 1: which is something that I've been doing, as I said,
Speaker 1: for for eighteen years. It defines me as a human
Speaker 1: and it was quite gut wrenching, and we thought it
Speaker 1: might come back at the post COVID look and strange thing.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite sayings, guys is the only constant
Speaker 1: is change. So we don't know what the future might hold,
Speaker 1: We don't know how it goes. And now we're back
Speaker 1: in the only place on the planet where you can
Speaker 1: actually watch live sport and a crowd of people who
Speaker 1: knows what may transpire over the coming years. It may
Speaker 1: count back. But I can't hold onto those hopes. All
Speaker 1: I know is that I've got a role at Newstalk
Speaker 1: z B, and we do have live rugby coverage on
Speaker 1: newstalks it be, and I've got I've got a role
Speaker 1: in a position to to talk about sport and as
Speaker 1: I said, the runaway juggon of talk radio in New Zealand.
Speaker 1: So I can't look back at anger. I can't all
Speaker 1: I can do. And this is what happened when COVID
Speaker 1: came and strike us. My initial thought pretn was I
Speaker 1: cannot change what's happened. I cannot control is what happened.
Speaker 1: But I can control my reaction to what has happened.
Speaker 1: And that's what I chose to do. And that's the
Speaker 1: only way I think you can get ahead of things.
Speaker 1: There's there's no point and crying over spilt milk, as
Speaker 1: they say, though it's a lot of milk, it's a tanker.
Speaker 1: I mean they're drowned catch everywhere. So that's basically in
Speaker 1: a nutshells But we're not going to get up hope.
Speaker 1: But currently as it stands, radio sport up to twenty
Speaker 1: two years of polluting the airway, UM just ticked off
Speaker 1: and see good. Huh yeah, yeah, it's great. And and
Speaker 1: it's it's weird because you were there eighteen years. I've
Speaker 1: been at Fox Sports Radio for twenty. I can't I
Speaker 1: can't believe it's been that long. And you know, these
Speaker 1: the pandemic started in the advertising market globally went in
Speaker 1: the toilet as as you know, don't you know. And
Speaker 1: so it's it's a little it's a little frustrating because
Speaker 1: we we both love doing radio and I love you know,
Speaker 1: the fact you're you know, lifetime I consider you a
Speaker 1: lifetime radio guy. Now you've been in so long and
Speaker 1: so but without the advertising, you know, it's like we
Speaker 1: had John Sterling, the Yankee broadcaster, on this podcast a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and he pointed out, you got
Speaker 1: to sell the soup. The most important part is you've
Speaker 1: gotta sell it. And it's very difficult right now, uh,
Speaker 1: in the in the business, and hopefully that's gonna turn around.
Speaker 1: Has it turned around at all? In New Zealand, as
Speaker 1: you said, you know, you've got live sports there and
Speaker 1: things are seemingly more normal than here in America. Right now.
Speaker 1: I'm we're broadcasting from California. Darcy where the King of
Speaker 1: California here has shut the entire state down again. But
Speaker 1: it's not like that in New Zealand. So it is
Speaker 1: the advertising market back is it's starting to come back.
Speaker 1: Have I stood here and tried to tell you that
Speaker 1: I understood the vagaries of advertising would be alive? Excuse me,
Speaker 1: it's not COVID. It's okay, it's all right. I've had
Speaker 1: to swap, I've had to thing up my nose. I'm fine.
Speaker 1: Us on the way back. We're really interested to be
Speaker 1: here to see if there is a second wave. We
Speaker 1: seem to be very good right now. We've only got
Speaker 1: it's twenty two active cases and they're all on quarantine.
Speaker 1: We're bringing people back New Zealand. Nationals are all coming
Speaker 1: back on maths from the rest of the world so
Speaker 1: they can actually live a regular life again. And the economy,
Speaker 1: it hasn't tanked quite as much as people thought it
Speaker 1: would that the housing market, for example, we have got
Speaker 1: a very vibrant housing market and it's still going. It's
Speaker 1: still charging along, and it's it's bizarre that that's the
Speaker 1: case when so many jobs have been lost. But I
Speaker 1: think that we're waiting for the settling in time because
Speaker 1: the government have spent billions of dollars with job subsidies
Speaker 1: and wage subsidies keeping people unemployment. Now they do it
Speaker 1: to lapse, So we're in that lapses. Then will see
Speaker 1: what the next way it actually looks like and how
Speaker 1: much is out there. But we're pretty vibrant. Pretty what's
Speaker 1: the best word to describe the way New Zealanders are.
Speaker 1: We we work hard, we put our heads down, our
Speaker 1: butts up, and don't look at things. I think this
Speaker 1: is a reason to fail. That we're just going to
Speaker 1: make it work, and I think that view on life
Speaker 1: is going to work out. Really, what's going to stand
Speaker 1: Guys that I've been hearing the land we're about great
Speaker 1: big farm. Now we've got everything we need to survive.
Speaker 1: We can generate our own electricity through hydro dams. We
Speaker 1: are essentially a farm from tip to tie. We're surrounded
Speaker 1: and water, so we've got all of that marine life
Speaker 1: to eat as well. And we're we're quite We're good
Speaker 1: in the film industry, we're good at electronic industry. We're
Speaker 1: we do a lot of things, are very self contained.
Speaker 1: We can export that out to the rest of the world.
Speaker 1: So as a po to seeing COVID as being an
Speaker 1: absolute disaster. I think there's a core of people over
Speaker 1: here who she's find a reason to make it actually
Speaker 1: work for us. And there's a in sport particularly I've
Speaker 1: been no I won't say leaving the charge on us.
Speaker 1: We were talking about this in my radio program, about
Speaker 1: the factors that we can have crowds of people come
Speaker 1: to games. Now, there's a rugby Championship. If you don't
Speaker 1: know about rugby, the All Blacks are one of the
Speaker 1: most successful teams in history. They've got a winning rate
Speaker 1: of something like crazy over the last hundred years. Now
Speaker 1: they're not the world champions at the moment, they got
Speaker 1: beaten out of the last World Cup. But we have
Speaker 1: a yearly championship called the Rugby Championship, and it's between Australia,
Speaker 1: New Zealand, South Africa and Argentina in the Southern Hemisphere
Speaker 1: teams under a cap called SANSAR. That championship now is
Speaker 1: being mooted to go ahead purely in New Zealand, where
Speaker 1: would bring all those other nations over partner and quarantine
Speaker 1: for two weeks at the cost of the ben of
Speaker 1: SANSA and then run a six week competition in the
Speaker 1: lead up to Christmas, where all of these teams play
Speaker 1: each up and down the nation at all of the
Speaker 1: stadia that we have that the ticket receipts will be
Speaker 1: fantastic because people will clear up on mass news enermors
Speaker 1: because we're absolutely addicted to rugby is a drug for us.
Speaker 1: And also it gives the the Union something to to sell.
Speaker 1: Sam's already have big deals in the broadcast right, so
Speaker 1: that would be renegued on if they had nothing to
Speaker 1: look at. But we're trying to work out a way
Speaker 1: we can actually bring a viable and relevant competition with
Speaker 1: crowds and people want to buy into that. The UFC
Speaker 1: Israel this. So the middleweight champion is very keen to
Speaker 1: get Dana White and has next title defense here in
Speaker 1: awkwand at the Spark Arena you would have seen the USC.
Speaker 1: It's great to listen to guys have their skulls crushed
Speaker 1: by their feet and the like. You can hear at
Speaker 1: the detail of the pain. But there's something about a
Speaker 1: crowd that really is the lifeblood of sport. And I
Speaker 1: know we've got soought behind closed doors, but I think
Speaker 1: all of us look at it. It's just not right,
Speaker 1: there's something not right, Whereas over here in New's in
Speaker 1: we can prove I've even gone the star and say,
Speaker 1: why don't we bring the pg O over here. Look
Speaker 1: at some of the most beautiful golf courses in the
Speaker 1: world here in New Zealand, get them over here. Why
Speaker 1: don't we look to stretch out globally and say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're living real, We're living in existence that you guys
Speaker 1: all want to live. We're a very lucky country the
Speaker 1: way we've behaved and what we've got, which is unique.
Speaker 1: How can we benefit that? How can we make that
Speaker 1: work for us and make it profitable? My other idea,
Speaker 1: I said California should just move over here. Would quite
Speaker 1: likely your tech companies and your money, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: that the california As would all up to move over
Speaker 1: here in New Zealand. It's a beautiful place. Maybe a
Speaker 1: little cold, and it rains. I'll give you that rain.
Speaker 1: It's the stuff that comes out of the sky. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you Californias have seen it make scot wet.
Speaker 1: So we've got some that aren't quite as good. But
Speaker 1: you guys come on over man. We'll bring your money,
Speaker 1: bring your tech and come to New Zealand. It's a
Speaker 1: beautiful place to live. A Dercy. On that note, better
Speaker 1: and I have tied to good length about some of
Speaker 1: the bucket list things that we want to do here
Speaker 1: in the United States or even in North America. You're
Speaker 1: talking about like the the Calgary Stampede or the Kentucky Derby. UM.
Speaker 1: Some of the like the tennis and golf majors that
Speaker 1: we haven't been to. But one thing that I've had
Speaker 1: friends internationally say to me is that no matter what
Speaker 1: you do, you need to make sure that at least
Speaker 1: go to one event internationally that's a part of the
Speaker 1: World Rugby Sevens series. And I've had friends say, you
Speaker 1: need to go down to New Zealand or go to
Speaker 1: Hong Kong for the for the sevens. Um have you
Speaker 1: ever been to any of those events? Um outside of
Speaker 1: New Zealand. Not outside of New Zealand. When I leave
Speaker 1: New Zealand to watch sport, I've I've got a real
Speaker 1: problem with motor cars. I love race cars. You talk
Speaker 1: about bucket list, I need to get to Indy. I
Speaker 1: need to see that race. And of course one of
Speaker 1: our finest Scott Dixon, was absolutely dominating any car at
Speaker 1: the moment has done for I think he's been any
Speaker 1: cars along. I've been at Radio Sport and you know
Speaker 1: I talked him on a regular basis. But when I've
Speaker 1: not been to one of the seas, I would like
Speaker 1: to go to the Hong Kong Sevens. Again. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a bucket list situation. But when I leave the country,
Speaker 1: it's team me. So I can go and watch Formula One.
Speaker 1: That's something we don't have over here. And of course
Speaker 1: the Supercar Series out of Australia, which is a fantastic
Speaker 1: tin top race car series and one of the dominant
Speaker 1: forces there. Another Scott called McLachlan is going to be
Speaker 1: racing for Pinsky next year in the Indy Car Series
Speaker 1: and he's a guy that you would have watched for.
Speaker 1: He is phenomenally quick. You think Scott dixmon is good,
Speaker 1: when Scott mclackland turns up, it's going to be two key.
Speaker 1: He's fighting it out for your chocolates. Over stateside, what
Speaker 1: was the last time you're here in the United States? Well,
Speaker 1: some in the those States would have been around about
Speaker 1: sixteen years ago. It sounds odd. I had old friend
Speaker 1: of mine who decided to get married, and his stag
Speaker 1: party consisted of myself, him and two of his best
Speaker 1: mates flying to LA for the weekend and that was
Speaker 1: our stag party. So I went and experienced all A
Speaker 1: for three days, and I didn't notice that everybody had
Speaker 1: brand new shoes and you were definitely a hungry lot.
Speaker 1: I would say that for sure, and not really good kasm.
Speaker 1: You're not good at sarcasm at my might go to
Speaker 1: and broadcasting is quite a sarcastic character, and I tried
Speaker 1: that on the States and people just kind of look
Speaker 1: at me like I was serious. I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: not gonna last very well. In fact, you guys are
Speaker 1: all armed. I might just leave my sarcasm back at
Speaker 1: the hotel and just behave like a normal woman being
Speaker 1: but a great time six Flags Magic Mountain over there.
Speaker 1: I went to a number of flash restaurants, and I
Speaker 1: found the best way to get service in the States
Speaker 1: is order a bottle of eyewatering the expensive champagne, and
Speaker 1: then suddenly they don't leave your loan. It took me
Speaker 1: a while to work that one out, and I only
Speaker 1: did it for the one night because you know, I
Speaker 1: needed to fly home it was a good time, but
Speaker 1: that was the last time I was there. I should
Speaker 1: like to go to New York. Actually, I'm a doting
Speaker 1: father of a nine year old girl, and he would
Speaker 1: quite like to catch a trans continental train. We'd like
Speaker 1: to go from New York across the l A on
Speaker 1: a sleeper train and go right the way through the
Speaker 1: heartland of the States in a train. That's something I'd
Speaker 1: really like to do. So I'm looking to that the
Speaker 1: next teen years, if you can actually get some kind
Speaker 1: of control this Mars, because at the moment I ain't
Speaker 1: leaving the land. I find it not even leave. Be
Speaker 1: sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show
Speaker 1: weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Darcy has
Speaker 1: been challenging though, because you've got states like California and
Speaker 1: New York that are releasing prisoners, uh due to the
Speaker 1: coronavirus outbreak, and of course is I'm sure you've seen
Speaker 1: on on national news were you have riots all over
Speaker 1: the place, and that includes some of the most h
Speaker 1: I guess, most harmful in New York. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if i'd recommend that. I don't know if Ben
Speaker 1: would either. I'd say, go down south of Florida first
Speaker 1: and then working exactly. But Darcy, what's the media covers?
Speaker 1: They're like, what are you? What are you getting? It
Speaker 1: is interest, because I'm sure it's different than the media
Speaker 1: here is just going overload on this, But is it?
Speaker 1: What's the reporting like in New Zealand and what are
Speaker 1: you hearing on what's going on in in America? I
Speaker 1: dest be careful. I don't want to rile any of
Speaker 1: my American friends. What's going on right now? Um, we
Speaker 1: are quite reserved in a coverage and reconably balanced, i'd
Speaker 1: like to say, and how we cover international fears and
Speaker 1: what we look at By that, the whole the Trump
Speaker 1: situation is quite galling. That there is a constant denial
Speaker 1: of what is happening. And it feels like there's a
Speaker 1: constant denial at the very top, believe in the United
Speaker 1: States of America about what you're doing and how you're
Speaker 1: dealing with And it's not just at that the very
Speaker 1: top level, it's a state side. Every individual states seems
Speaker 1: to be coping within their own various ways. There seems
Speaker 1: to be a huge disconnects between what authorities are attempting
Speaker 1: to do and how it's done. But this is not
Speaker 1: just the United States of America. We've got this in
Speaker 1: England as well. We've got situations in Australia where there
Speaker 1: are separate states running their place. They are all doing
Speaker 1: their own things, and I think that's why he's worked
Speaker 1: out so well. You would have heard of a phrase
Speaker 1: the team of five million. Our Prime Minister Jacinda our Dorn,
Speaker 1: who's been quite frankly stunning since he was elected, and
Speaker 1: the New Zealand has got together as one and went right.
Speaker 1: But we're going to fight this with what We're going
Speaker 1: to join the party, and it's going to hurt, but
Speaker 1: it's going to hurt only on short term and then
Speaker 1: we're going to pop out the other side. So if
Speaker 1: everybody dedicated themselves to the lockdown and everyone behave, we're
Speaker 1: all good citizens. And that's because we're very small and
Speaker 1: we feel like as one we can do it all.
Speaker 1: You get big places with huge populaces, you're going to
Speaker 1: get a divide and disconnect there anyway, just just by default,
Speaker 1: because of the nature of the size of the populace
Speaker 1: and the and the region itself. So we look to
Speaker 1: the United States of America and we're puzzled, and we
Speaker 1: scratch our head and we sit and wait and tap
Speaker 1: our fingers. And we also hear constant stories about billionaires
Speaker 1: in the States who are buying up huge tracts of
Speaker 1: land in New Zealand and building shelters here. So when
Speaker 1: it really does hit the fan the proverbial, they'll just
Speaker 1: disappear over here and go and hide in their bunkers.
Speaker 1: So we picking them out island. I don't know how
Speaker 1: much truth there isn't that, but there's actually quite a
Speaker 1: cute big money Americans who've got citizenship over here have
Speaker 1: brought their way over here from many years ago, thinking
Speaker 1: that that something might go horribly wrong. And now of
Speaker 1: course that's um, that's the case that stood up so
Speaker 1: once the way that so it was that careful enough
Speaker 1: around your potus and what he's done. I find him
Speaker 1: in an intriguing character, and I I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: this next election. I'm not sure what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: and I don't think any of you guys know either,
Speaker 1: But we have our own election coming up in about
Speaker 1: nine weeks time, so we're ready much focused on on
Speaker 1: the left, which is the labor party that ruled the
Speaker 1: place at the moment, and the National which is the
Speaker 1: right side, the right leaning Conservatives, if you will, and
Speaker 1: they've just had a new leader elected, Judith Collins, who's
Speaker 1: known as Crusher Collins. He's a quite a formidable character, um,
Speaker 1: and she's going to be upper Jacinda our Dorn, who
Speaker 1: comes from a place of of empathy and care. So
Speaker 1: watching those two fight it out, these two very powerful
Speaker 1: women fighting out at the top, it's going to be
Speaker 1: a fascinating nine weeks here. So that will probably take
Speaker 1: more of our attention than what your potus and the
Speaker 1: rest of the gang are doing over the Be sure
Speaker 1: to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show week
Speaker 1: days at two a m. Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the great thing about elections. After the last couple
Speaker 1: of elections here in America, Darcy, you can't you can't
Speaker 1: trust the polling. Uh, you can't trust any of that.
Speaker 1: It's all Uh, it's all a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of bullcrap that seems to be be mixed in there. Uh.
Speaker 1: It's gotta make you feel good though, as you said, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you live in a place where it's like seen as utopia.
Speaker 1: I text you we were talking the other day and
Speaker 1: there was somebody was spreading, hey, they should move the
Speaker 1: NFL to New zealand bring the entire NFL to your country, Parcy,
Speaker 1: and that it was of course, it was just you know,
Speaker 1: somebody throwing stuff against the wall. But do you guys
Speaker 1: have enough stadiums there? I mean you you need like
Speaker 1: multiple stadiums and crazy it's it's it's a wild card scenario.
Speaker 1: But do you have the logistics to make something like
Speaker 1: that work? The wait, wait, whole stadium concept over here
Speaker 1: to We held the Rugby World Cup there back in
Speaker 1: twenty eleven and no one thought the country so small
Speaker 1: could hold such a big event. And we we did
Speaker 1: it well. We did it with gold stars, we did
Speaker 1: particularly well. The Auckland issue is the Auckland has a
Speaker 1: very it's a it's a fractioned stadium situation. We have
Speaker 1: a national stadium called Eden Park, which when it was
Speaker 1: built teen years ago, a hundred of years ago. Since then,
Speaker 1: it's it's now in the middle of suburbia. Um and
Speaker 1: there are a small group of people that don't like
Speaker 1: games being played there at night. But I don't like
Speaker 1: the lights on. There's limitations from counsel about how many
Speaker 1: games can be on me because it is a it's
Speaker 1: a it's an area where people live. Now, it's not
Speaker 1: like out in the boom Docks anywhere. So we've got
Speaker 1: that that can sets fifty thousand people. In extend that
Speaker 1: they had the final of the Rugby World Cup. We
Speaker 1: have a North Harbor Stadium just slightly north of the city,
Speaker 1: like you know, plant a half an out of the
Speaker 1: central city, which has about twenty thousand. We've got the
Speaker 1: Warriors at Rugby League side. They've got a stadium that
Speaker 1: holds about only six thousand. Down at Wellington we've got
Speaker 1: a thirty thirty five thousand enclosed stadium. And the capital,
Speaker 1: christ Church, as you know, suffered um the outrage of nature.
Speaker 1: Mother Nature's sorry. I come from christ Church when the
Speaker 1: earthquakes came, killed a number of people and just destroyed
Speaker 1: the city, destroyed their stadium and it still hasn't got
Speaker 1: a proper stadium. It's got a temporary lego stadium that
Speaker 1: they throw up in half an hour called the Orange
Speaker 1: Theory Stadium. What I called the Orange Theory lean to
Speaker 1: It's not a stadium, it's a corrugated iron nailed together
Speaker 1: in a right hurry, and that's still the stadium. They've
Speaker 1: got another one plan, so there's really nothing in christ Church,
Speaker 1: you know, I think they can fit twenty thousand and
Speaker 1: this horrible facility that no one wants to go to.
Speaker 1: And then third the south in Dunedin and there are
Speaker 1: other main cities basically four to five main stadiums. They've
Speaker 1: got a an indoor stadium called Foresight Bar Stadium, which
Speaker 1: conceived thirty thou dollars thirty thousand people. If pushed a
Speaker 1: christ Chichs was looking at an indoor stadium. Ham Auton
Speaker 1: also have an okay stadium, but I really don't think
Speaker 1: we've got the facilities to to cover something that large.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying that neither saying never. We're an industrious
Speaker 1: punch and we're pretty good at doing things from time
Speaker 1: to time, although I do one day what it's taken
Speaker 1: so long for us to build a stadium in Canterbury.
Speaker 1: Christ Church, which is the home of the Crusaders, who
Speaker 1: are the runaway the best team in Super Rugby, which
Speaker 1: is a Southern Hemisphere rugby competition. Um they're now on
Speaker 1: the way to getting their fourth consecutive championships. They absolutely dominate,
Speaker 1: yet they play in a tin sheet. It's bizarre and
Speaker 1: dark on that. Now, when you're speaking about some of
Speaker 1: the teams locally in New Zealand, are you guys going
Speaker 1: through anything that the United States is when it comes
Speaker 1: to the political correctness of athletic teams and franchises. I mean,
Speaker 1: just for example, Ben and I have been talking earlier
Speaker 1: in the week about the Washington Redskins, how they're gonna
Speaker 1: retire the Redskins name, They're gonna come out with a
Speaker 1: new name. And that's happened in college athletics too. You
Speaker 1: have certain scots that have been retired, especially here in
Speaker 1: California with with Long Beach State and some of other universities.
Speaker 1: Has that happened at all in New Zealand? Is there
Speaker 1: any kind of political correctness that's christ over into the
Speaker 1: athletic realms? Yeah? There is. M I think if you know,
Speaker 1: the term woke that New Zealand is reasonably what we're
Speaker 1: reasonably accepted of new paradigms that people are willing to accept.
Speaker 1: I mean people say I was traditional, when I'm right
Speaker 1: into what Woody Allen once said. He said, tradition is
Speaker 1: the illusion of permanence, and I think it is because
Speaker 1: they say it's always been neigness, need stay. But in
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty years ago, woman couldn't vote and
Speaker 1: it was okay to keep slaves. Now you're telling me
Speaker 1: that that's still relevant in this day and age. Now,
Speaker 1: it's not. Things change and everything changes your moving. I
Speaker 1: think he's on the pretty woke to that and we'd
Speaker 1: like to change. But the biggest thing we've had of
Speaker 1: recent times, it will be familiar with the terrorist attack
Speaker 1: that happened in christ Church where alone guvernment stormed into
Speaker 1: a mosque and slaughtered for the Muslims. We never thought
Speaker 1: anything like it would happen here and it devastated. Now
Speaker 1: what what extended from that is that local team was
Speaker 1: called the Crusaders, and if you know what a crusader is,
Speaker 1: they were basically, you know, the men on many crusades
Speaker 1: from England went and Muslims and they sported Muslims. That
Speaker 1: was their motus apple under. That's what they did. So
Speaker 1: the Crusaders. There was a lot of movement to change
Speaker 1: the name of the Crusader after that mask attack. They
Speaker 1: didn't want to be seen as that. In the end,
Speaker 1: the name stayed, but all the iconography around the team disappeared.
Speaker 1: I um, their their logo was a knight and chain
Speaker 1: mail holding a great big sword. So they got rather
Speaker 1: that they used to have horses that used to gallop
Speaker 1: around the exterior of the study before the game played
Speaker 1: mean dressed as knights with swords on these great, big personals,
Speaker 1: these big war horses. So there was a lot of
Speaker 1: conversation around the relevance of that does a crusader stand
Speaker 1: for that? There was a crusader someone who crusades for justice,
Speaker 1: someone who crusades for the good in life. So there
Speaker 1: was pretty stern conversation around that, and it ended up
Speaker 1: that the name stayed, but all the logos and the
Speaker 1: visual around it was removed because we thought that in
Speaker 1: this era it's probably not a good idea to do that,
Speaker 1: and that was what the crusaderes came up with. Now
Speaker 1: that it was quite devisive, I say we woke. There
Speaker 1: is also a reasonable sway that the community that founded
Speaker 1: unacceptable and they said the Crusaders to us does not
Speaker 1: represent that you can't mess with our name. My thought
Speaker 1: pattern on this is and I think it's the same
Speaker 1: with your your Indian community when you look at what's
Speaker 1: happening with the Redskins there now. I believe there was
Speaker 1: polls taken and of the pulses didn't care. Of the
Speaker 1: Indian pulses said it's not offensive to us, but team
Speaker 1: percent did. So my figuring is, if you change the name,
Speaker 1: I don't care. Well, they're not going to care if
Speaker 1: you change the name, need it. But if there's team
Speaker 1: percent that find it really offensive and it really is
Speaker 1: upsetting and it's not going to work, why wouldn't you
Speaker 1: change to night panthified? Will you balance you to to
Speaker 1: the team to scene h But if the nine percent
Speaker 1: don't care, why do I care if you change the name.
Speaker 1: If you're going to keep team PA scene happy and
Speaker 1: show that you're you're home thinking, community and some things
Speaker 1: that will back in the day, I'm no longer sitable.
Speaker 1: Does that make seems from us sounding too much like
Speaker 1: a liberal? What's kind of character? You are very woke, Darcy,
Speaker 1: I mean, my guy. The only problem with that line
Speaker 1: of thinking is that we live in the age where
Speaker 1: people are upset about everything. I mean, that's the problem.
Speaker 1: But I I did want to listen, Darcy. I I
Speaker 1: can't have you on this podcast, and I love that
Speaker 1: you're doing this and it's wonderful. But when we talk
Speaker 1: about team names, and I think this is what Guscott
Speaker 1: was going for because on our show, as we we
Speaker 1: we asked these dopey trivia questions to try to get
Speaker 1: people to listen. We go to break. You know, we'll
Speaker 1: ask you a question we know we're not supposed to break,
Speaker 1: and inevitably, at least once a week on our show,
Speaker 1: usually it's Justin and Cincinnati or somebody else will answer.
Speaker 1: If I have a team related question, they will say
Speaker 1: the All Blacks as the answer, because that you know, globally,
Speaker 1: people look at that says, oh my god, that is
Speaker 1: the most offensive name in the world. In New Zealand
Speaker 1: has the rugby teams called the All Blacks. But you
Speaker 1: explained to me, and I need you to explain to
Speaker 1: our our listener, Darcy, that that is one of the
Speaker 1: great misspellings in the history of the world in sports.
Speaker 1: How the name all Blacks came about? Is that correct?
Speaker 1: That's what you told me the other day. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: like the way you say. Tell our listener, is there
Speaker 1: only one person listening to this podcast? And here I
Speaker 1: thought that the break a few people. You guys are
Speaker 1: obviously man, you're collapsed in all the writings that they
Speaker 1: the story around the All Blacks and is they to
Speaker 1: it England hundred something years ago and there was a
Speaker 1: write up about the game is divided into two groups.
Speaker 1: There the ford the ford packs who the the big
Speaker 1: angry guys who do are the hard work. And there
Speaker 1: are the back line and the backs are the fast
Speaker 1: guys who do all the running and scoring all the tribes.
Speaker 1: They're like the Glana Kits where the forward pack of
Speaker 1: the big grizzled veterans. So when we went over there
Speaker 1: and played that, the local media were stunned by this
Speaker 1: team where it appeared that the entire team were backs.
Speaker 1: They all played with the same verb and the same speed,
Speaker 1: and they were described in one mem this is this
Speaker 1: is the one of the tales go around their name,
Speaker 1: that they were all backs. Of course they wore black.
Speaker 1: That being moved to being from all backs to all
Speaker 1: blacks because they all wore black. So there's a an
Speaker 1: argument that says that it was a misspelling. Initially that
Speaker 1: someone called them the all backs and then someone thought
Speaker 1: they were on black. So I will just scored the
Speaker 1: the all blacks, and well it's stuck and they're all
Speaker 1: blacks ever since. So our whole national color is black.
Speaker 1: That is our psyche. All of our teams we're black,
Speaker 1: except the football team, the Sacre team, they've gone the
Speaker 1: other way. They were white and they're called the all
Speaker 1: the Whites. Now that's not a racist thing, that's just
Speaker 1: because they were all white. Um, we've got the Black
Speaker 1: Caps as a national cricket team. They were all black,
Speaker 1: and I don't know it's gonna like this very much.
Speaker 1: We have a national badminton team as well, and you
Speaker 1: know when badminton they use a shuttle cart, so their
Speaker 1: nickname for a while was the Black Cocks. Now it's
Speaker 1: like we've we've got the Black Stocks. The Black Socks
Speaker 1: are a softball team. So all of our national teams
Speaker 1: have got either black or silver. A lot of the
Speaker 1: women's teams are the Ferns, the black Ferns, the silver Ferns,
Speaker 1: and an ex team. So it's very much intrinsic announce
Speaker 1: society that all of our sports teams have got that
Speaker 1: attachment to either the silver fern, which is out a
Speaker 1: national emblem, or the black And we've tried to change
Speaker 1: our flag a number of years ago, and basically we
Speaker 1: all wanted a black flag with a silver fern on it.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people pointed out that it's kind
Speaker 1: of like a pirate flag and maybe an aggressive flag
Speaker 1: to have. So at the end, you're not staying with
Speaker 1: the older boy with the four stars in Jack in
Speaker 1: the Corner. So that's a rough idea about where this
Speaker 1: name comes from. It's not racially based. It was a
Speaker 1: typo that someone jumped on, and some of might argue
Speaker 1: against me on that one, but as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 1: that's the story, and I'll tell you what. I'm sticking
Speaker 1: with it. If you say it was enough conviction, that's
Speaker 1: the truth, right. But I love it. It's like you
Speaker 1: know in America, right, the salon was the term. I
Speaker 1: guess in England they call it salon, but in America
Speaker 1: they called it salon. They misspelled it, so people pronounce
Speaker 1: it salon. But but it is crazy, and I love
Speaker 1: that these teams have a logos Darcy, like you know,
Speaker 1: like the what what's the uh? What do you say?
Speaker 1: The Bad Mitten teams, the Black Cocks, what was their logo?
Speaker 1: I don't know if if it saw the light of day, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not sure if they even use that
Speaker 1: terminology anymore. It could have merely been something that was
Speaker 1: created by a number of fans out there because it
Speaker 1: was kind of cheeky and kind of funny. I mean,
Speaker 1: the hockey team are called the Black Sticks, and it
Speaker 1: goes on. It just carries on. The Most of the logos,
Speaker 1: as I said, are silver fern. It's um a national plant.
Speaker 1: So it's a beautiful green fern on the on the
Speaker 1: on the under side of it. When you turn it,
Speaker 1: when the light hits it, it's a really iridescent silver
Speaker 1: colors extraordinary. Same, that's something that we use. And of
Speaker 1: course the Kiwi we used as well. A national bird,
Speaker 1: which is odd because our national bird can't fly. Um,
Speaker 1: what kind of birds? Explain this? Your national bird is
Speaker 1: the how is it a bird? If you care fly?
Speaker 1: What's up with that? Well, you've got to remember that
Speaker 1: up until about eight hundred years ago, there was there
Speaker 1: was no human life on yoursel. There was nobody here.
Speaker 1: There was nothing here, so evolution the birds didn't have
Speaker 1: to fly because there was no predators. There was no
Speaker 1: there were no mammalian predators in dis country. Nothing. It
Speaker 1: was entirely populated by birds. So the birds of old
Speaker 1: over time, because they didn't have to fly away from
Speaker 1: things to eat them, they ended up being ground dwelling.
Speaker 1: And we had a bird called more m A and
Speaker 1: the more it was it was an enormous and it
Speaker 1: was only a hunted to extinction, probably a hundred of
Speaker 1: years ago, maybe a little longer. And we're talking in
Speaker 1: your money. This is like a twelve thirty ft thing
Speaker 1: that had these massive legs but no wings and a
Speaker 1: huge night neck. So there are a series of birds
Speaker 1: that developed like that, and the Kiwi is one of them.
Speaker 1: It's very shy, it's nocturnal. You never see it. It
Speaker 1: only comes out at night. It's got a massive, long
Speaker 1: beak and a big fat backside and it just picks
Speaker 1: around in the undergrowth, eating grubs and the like. There's
Speaker 1: a joke around the key we represents some your average
Speaker 1: New Zealand male. It eats roots and leaves. Darius, speaking
Speaker 1: of predators, and you mentioned being here in Las s Angeles,
Speaker 1: so I have to ask, since you have a nice
Speaker 1: female nestling in your in your bed this morning, m
Speaker 1: give me the difference that you've noticed so far between
Speaker 1: women that you've you've seen here in l A or
Speaker 1: California and those in New Zealand, because obviously we get
Speaker 1: a ton of people that always talk about going down
Speaker 1: under because American men are are loved by Australian and
Speaker 1: New Zealand women. Is that the case? And if so,
Speaker 1: give me a sales pitch. Now, well, no, that sounds
Speaker 1: like an urban myth, because I'm told that when we
Speaker 1: go to the States, the American women love the Simlars
Speaker 1: because they love our dull front of an accent. They
Speaker 1: find an extremely disgusting. But I couldn't possibly comment on that.
Speaker 1: I can't speak for an entire nation about what they
Speaker 1: like and what they find desires. I think that something
Speaker 1: about New Zealand women because of the nature of how
Speaker 1: far away New Zealand has been. We've got to thinklled
Speaker 1: the number eight why philosophy, which means because we were
Speaker 1: so distant back a hundred years ago, hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: years ago, if we needed something here in New Zealand,
Speaker 1: we had to make it ourselves. So it gets some
Speaker 1: why and would do it ourselves because there's no way
Speaker 1: we could bring it in from from overseas, because it
Speaker 1: was six months on the leaky boat to get anywhere nearest.
Speaker 1: So we become very very self sufficient. And I think
Speaker 1: that the New Zealand woman is like that. That that
Speaker 1: personifies them. They're very very self sufficient, very hard work,
Speaker 1: not afraid to get their their hands dirty, and they
Speaker 1: see themselves as as an equal to the male. And
Speaker 1: you don't remember that New Zealand was the first country
Speaker 1: in the world to allow women to vote. We're very
Speaker 1: forward thinking and they women as well. We've got a
Speaker 1: woman leader now, the leader of the opposition as a woman.
Speaker 1: Our governor Genia was a woman. We're we're very proactive
Speaker 1: in that space. I think that's something that we're proud
Speaker 1: of is that women are on even standings that they
Speaker 1: can do anything just like your average man has. And
Speaker 1: I think that that sums up the New Zealand. New
Speaker 1: Zealand woman really hard working, extraordinarily capable and will not
Speaker 1: take any grief from anybody. And why but tide if
Speaker 1: you get in their way, because I drop you on
Speaker 1: your backside with a swift slap around the face. Quite
Speaker 1: won't be a slap, not over here to be a
Speaker 1: closed first, you're a cuff dunch mate, they're a tough bunch.
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Speaker 1: I think Gascon was trying to he wanted some tips
Speaker 1: because he's, you know, looking for later advice. Is kind
Speaker 1: of curious if we got the real Housewives of Orange
Speaker 1: County out here, darcys, So you get women that are
Speaker 1: just pretentious, yeah, pretentious. Yeah, it's not good. But well
Speaker 1: there are pockets of there. There pockets of that everywhere
Speaker 1: as well. But I think in general, the women of
Speaker 1: this country would like to see them as a very
Speaker 1: self sufficient, extraordinarily capable and we'll give as good as
Speaker 1: they get and they'll take on the boys. So when
Speaker 1: you come over here, just be prepared. There's not a
Speaker 1: lot of shy, retiring wallflowers over here. They're very upfront.
Speaker 1: I put it this way. M my second marriage to
Speaker 1: the mother of my darling child. She asked me. She
Speaker 1: essentially dragged me by the throke to the aisle. I
Speaker 1: want you, I want your deans. We're gonna make a baby,
Speaker 1: and you've got no say in the matter. I mean,
Speaker 1: she was my best friend for probably teen years, and
Speaker 1: one day she just rocked around to the house all
Speaker 1: dressed up, looking amazing. Sid, I don't want a best
Speaker 1: friend anymore. I want a husband, and you will you
Speaker 1: marry me? We weren't even seeing each other. She was
Speaker 1: just my mate. Within three months we were married and
Speaker 1: she was pregnant. And I'm who're standing there going, that's
Speaker 1: a good story, Darcy. We we gotta wrap this up.
Speaker 1: And how how can the people here in America they
Speaker 1: want to hear you on the radio? The great thing
Speaker 1: today is with streaming and all I know you're on Twitter, right,
Speaker 1: You're you've got a Twitter account. How can people reach
Speaker 1: out if they're they want to hear more of your
Speaker 1: your wisdom and your knowledge and all that, well they can.
Speaker 1: I think that these beest things to do is Facebook
Speaker 1: is Facebook is also and infiltrated you sell them somewhat
Speaker 1: extremely popular over here. I just do a search for
Speaker 1: Darcy on z B. It's just d A. R. C
Speaker 1: Y on z B. And on that Facebook page you
Speaker 1: can find all the lengths. You can find all the
Speaker 1: interview you you can find news and tips and bits
Speaker 1: and pieces and through there you better get to my
Speaker 1: Twitter feed, my Instagram feed as well. You'll find all
Speaker 1: the links to that news talk z B is the
Speaker 1: website news talk to CB dot co dot Nz. But
Speaker 1: d A are c why is the best way to
Speaker 1: to start off your your deep Southern hemisphere love of
Speaker 1: fear with sports in the Shaky Aisles artio as we
Speaker 1: like to call it, that's the that's Mardi name for
Speaker 1: New Zealand art. It means landed on white cloud because
Speaker 1: unlike l a um, yeah, we've got a big white
Speaker 1: cloud over rain quite a lot a beautiful place here
Speaker 1: And I can't you know, Darcy, I can't wait at
Speaker 1: some point when the parkalypse ends and you get more
Speaker 1: time on the radio and I can come on and
Speaker 1: maybe they'll get cricket back. And I love bragging my
Speaker 1: friends Darcy that I got pre emptied. I got bumped
Speaker 1: from your should because of a cricket match that wouldn't end.
Speaker 1: Several times that happened over the years. It's right, which
Speaker 1: I loved. Thank you, Darcy, appreciate it have been wonderful
Speaker 1: and thanks very much for giving me the opportunity to
Speaker 1: to talk to your audience or one of them, you guys.
Speaker 1: Separ wonderful, awesome, Thank you Darcy. That was great, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're great. That will air tomorrow at Friday for us,
Speaker 1: which I guess is Saturday for you. It's gonna drop.
Speaker 1: I'll tweet it out. It's gonna be like it, uh,
Speaker 1: six in the morning our time, which is probably like
Speaker 1: was it four in the morning your time? Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know the time to it. But
Speaker 1: just see that's a tweet with a link. We just
Speaker 1: download it, listen to it. I didn't say anything that's
Speaker 1: going to get me in trouble with my work around
Speaker 1: the resumption of radio Sport if it will come back on,
Speaker 1: because when push comes to shove, well, we all really
Speaker 1: think that they were on the cross eas anyway, because
Speaker 1: we're too bloody expensive, and as soon as they had
Speaker 1: an opportunity, they just guessed as convenient, which is the
Speaker 1: stupidest thing they've ever done. But I can't complain about
Speaker 1: it because I'm still working. This approach is under the
Speaker 1: z b Oven. I'm time. All right, man, be good,
Speaker 1: I'll text you later, Darcy. Thank you may be good?
Speaker 1: All right, good, Yeah, no worries you guys, fine,