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Speaker 1: Ben Maller starts right now. A key wee delight. We

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Speaker 1: are in the air everywhere the vast powerful network of

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Speaker 1: I heart podcasting, the global reach and you've obviously found

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Speaker 1: the platforms that carry podcast and we thank you. This

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Speaker 1: worse yet again, joined by David Gascony for better, Ben always, always, always.

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Speaker 1: For about the last week, a lot of complaints about

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Speaker 1: SANSA and then run a six week competition in the

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Speaker 1: lead up to Christmas, where all of these teams play

429
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Speaker 1: each up and down the nation at all of the

430
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Speaker 1: stadia that we have that the ticket receipts will be

431
00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: fantastic because people will clear up on mass news enermors

432
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Speaker 1: because we're absolutely addicted to rugby is a drug for us.

433
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Speaker 1: And also it gives the the Union something to to sell.

434
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: Sam's already have big deals in the broadcast right, so

435
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Speaker 1: that would be renegued on if they had nothing to

436
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Speaker 1: look at. But we're trying to work out a way

437
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Speaker 1: we can actually bring a viable and relevant competition with

438
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Speaker 1: crowds and people want to buy into that. The UFC

439
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 1: Israel this. So the middleweight champion is very keen to

440
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Speaker 1: get Dana White and has next title defense here in

441
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 1: awkwand at the Spark Arena you would have seen the USC.

442
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 1: It's great to listen to guys have their skulls crushed

443
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Speaker 1: by their feet and the like. You can hear at

444
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Speaker 1: the detail of the pain. But there's something about a

445
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Speaker 1: crowd that really is the lifeblood of sport. And I

446
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 1: know we've got soought behind closed doors, but I think

447
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 1: all of us look at it. It's just not right,

448
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: there's something not right, Whereas over here in New's in

449
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: we can prove I've even gone the star and say,

450
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: why don't we bring the pg O over here. Look

451
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: at some of the most beautiful golf courses in the

452
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Speaker 1: world here in New Zealand, get them over here. Why

453
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Speaker 1: don't we look to stretch out globally and say, hey,

454
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Speaker 1: we're living real, We're living in existence that you guys

455
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: all want to live. We're a very lucky country the

456
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Speaker 1: way we've behaved and what we've got, which is unique.

457
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: How can we benefit that? How can we make that

458
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Speaker 1: work for us and make it profitable? My other idea,

459
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: I said California should just move over here. Would quite

460
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Speaker 1: likely your tech companies and your money, and I'm sure

461
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,719
Speaker 1: that the california As would all up to move over

462
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Speaker 1: here in New Zealand. It's a beautiful place. Maybe a

463
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Speaker 1: little cold, and it rains. I'll give you that rain.

464
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Speaker 1: It's the stuff that comes out of the sky. I

465
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Speaker 1: don't know if you Californias have seen it make scot wet.

466
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Speaker 1: So we've got some that aren't quite as good. But

467
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Speaker 1: you guys come on over man. We'll bring your money,

468
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: bring your tech and come to New Zealand. It's a

469
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Speaker 1: beautiful place to live. A Dercy. On that note, better

470
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Speaker 1: and I have tied to good length about some of

471
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Speaker 1: the bucket list things that we want to do here

472
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Speaker 1: in the United States or even in North America. You're

473
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Speaker 1: talking about like the the Calgary Stampede or the Kentucky Derby. UM.

474
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Speaker 1: Some of the like the tennis and golf majors that

475
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Speaker 1: we haven't been to. But one thing that I've had

476
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Speaker 1: friends internationally say to me is that no matter what

477
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Speaker 1: you do, you need to make sure that at least

478
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Speaker 1: go to one event internationally that's a part of the

479
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Speaker 1: World Rugby Sevens series. And I've had friends say, you

480
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Speaker 1: need to go down to New Zealand or go to

481
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Speaker 1: Hong Kong for the for the sevens. Um have you

482
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Speaker 1: ever been to any of those events? Um outside of

483
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Speaker 1: New Zealand. Not outside of New Zealand. When I leave

484
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Speaker 1: New Zealand to watch sport, I've I've got a real

485
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 1: problem with motor cars. I love race cars. You talk

486
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Speaker 1: about bucket list, I need to get to Indy. I

487
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: need to see that race. And of course one of

488
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Speaker 1: our finest Scott Dixon, was absolutely dominating any car at

489
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Speaker 1: the moment has done for I think he's been any

490
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Speaker 1: cars along. I've been at Radio Sport and you know

491
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Speaker 1: I talked him on a regular basis. But when I've

492
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Speaker 1: not been to one of the seas, I would like

493
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Speaker 1: to go to the Hong Kong Sevens. Again. It's a

494
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Speaker 1: it's a bucket list situation. But when I leave the country,

495
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Speaker 1: it's team me. So I can go and watch Formula One.

496
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: That's something we don't have over here. And of course

497
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: the Supercar Series out of Australia, which is a fantastic

498
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: tin top race car series and one of the dominant

499
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Speaker 1: forces there. Another Scott called McLachlan is going to be

500
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Speaker 1: racing for Pinsky next year in the Indy Car Series

501
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Speaker 1: and he's a guy that you would have watched for.

502
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Speaker 1: He is phenomenally quick. You think Scott dixmon is good,

503
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Speaker 1: when Scott mclackland turns up, it's going to be two key.

504
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: He's fighting it out for your chocolates. Over stateside, what

505
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 1: was the last time you're here in the United States? Well,

506
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: some in the those States would have been around about

507
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: sixteen years ago. It sounds odd. I had old friend

508
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Speaker 1: of mine who decided to get married, and his stag

509
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Speaker 1: party consisted of myself, him and two of his best

510
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: mates flying to LA for the weekend and that was

511
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Speaker 1: our stag party. So I went and experienced all A

512
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Speaker 1: for three days, and I didn't notice that everybody had

513
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: brand new shoes and you were definitely a hungry lot.

514
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Speaker 1: I would say that for sure, and not really good kasm.

515
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Speaker 1: You're not good at sarcasm at my might go to

516
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: and broadcasting is quite a sarcastic character, and I tried

517
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: that on the States and people just kind of look

518
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: at me like I was serious. I'm like, this is

519
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: not gonna last very well. In fact, you guys are

520
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: all armed. I might just leave my sarcasm back at

521
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Speaker 1: the hotel and just behave like a normal woman being

522
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: but a great time six Flags Magic Mountain over there.

523
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 1: I went to a number of flash restaurants, and I

524
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 1: found the best way to get service in the States

525
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: is order a bottle of eyewatering the expensive champagne, and

526
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: then suddenly they don't leave your loan. It took me

527
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: a while to work that one out, and I only

528
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: did it for the one night because you know, I

529
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: needed to fly home it was a good time, but

530
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Speaker 1: that was the last time I was there. I should

531
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Speaker 1: like to go to New York. Actually, I'm a doting

532
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Speaker 1: father of a nine year old girl, and he would

533
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Speaker 1: quite like to catch a trans continental train. We'd like

534
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Speaker 1: to go from New York across the l A on

535
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Speaker 1: a sleeper train and go right the way through the

536
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Speaker 1: heartland of the States in a train. That's something I'd

537
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Speaker 1: really like to do. So I'm looking to that the

538
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: next teen years, if you can actually get some kind

539
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Speaker 1: of control this Mars, because at the moment I ain't

540
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: leaving the land. I find it not even leave. Be

541
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Speaker 1: sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show

542
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Darcy has

543
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: been challenging though, because you've got states like California and

544
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Speaker 1: New York that are releasing prisoners, uh due to the

545
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: coronavirus outbreak, and of course is I'm sure you've seen

546
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 1: on on national news were you have riots all over

547
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: the place, and that includes some of the most h

548
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Speaker 1: I guess, most harmful in New York. So I don't

549
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Speaker 1: know if i'd recommend that. I don't know if Ben

550
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,680
Speaker 1: would either. I'd say, go down south of Florida first

551
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: and then working exactly. But Darcy, what's the media covers?

552
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: They're like, what are you? What are you getting? It

553
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: is interest, because I'm sure it's different than the media

554
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: here is just going overload on this, But is it?

555
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 1: What's the reporting like in New Zealand and what are

556
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: you hearing on what's going on in in America? I

557
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: dest be careful. I don't want to rile any of

558
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: my American friends. What's going on right now? Um, we

559
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: are quite reserved in a coverage and reconably balanced, i'd

560
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: like to say, and how we cover international fears and

561
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: what we look at By that, the whole the Trump

562
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: situation is quite galling. That there is a constant denial

563
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: of what is happening. And it feels like there's a

564
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: constant denial at the very top, believe in the United

565
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: States of America about what you're doing and how you're

566
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: dealing with And it's not just at that the very

567
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 1: top level, it's a state side. Every individual states seems

568
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: to be coping within their own various ways. There seems

569
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: to be a huge disconnects between what authorities are attempting

570
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,719
Speaker 1: to do and how it's done. But this is not

571
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: just the United States of America. We've got this in

572
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: England as well. We've got situations in Australia where there

573
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: are separate states running their place. They are all doing

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00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: their own things, and I think that's why he's worked

575
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: out so well. You would have heard of a phrase

576
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Speaker 1: the team of five million. Our Prime Minister Jacinda our Dorn,

577
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: who's been quite frankly stunning since he was elected, and

578
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: the New Zealand has got together as one and went right.

579
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: But we're going to fight this with what We're going

580
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: to join the party, and it's going to hurt, but

581
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: it's going to hurt only on short term and then

582
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: we're going to pop out the other side. So if

583
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: everybody dedicated themselves to the lockdown and everyone behave, we're

584
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: all good citizens. And that's because we're very small and

585
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: we feel like as one we can do it all.

586
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: You get big places with huge populaces, you're going to

587
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: get a divide and disconnect there anyway, just just by default,

588
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: because of the nature of the size of the populace

589
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: and the and the region itself. So we look to

590
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: the United States of America and we're puzzled, and we

591
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: scratch our head and we sit and wait and tap

592
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: our fingers. And we also hear constant stories about billionaires

593
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: in the States who are buying up huge tracts of

594
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Speaker 1: land in New Zealand and building shelters here. So when

595
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: it really does hit the fan the proverbial, they'll just

596
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: disappear over here and go and hide in their bunkers.

597
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: So we picking them out island. I don't know how

598
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: much truth there isn't that, but there's actually quite a

599
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: cute big money Americans who've got citizenship over here have

600
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: brought their way over here from many years ago, thinking

601
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: that that something might go horribly wrong. And now of

602
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: course that's um, that's the case that stood up so

603
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: once the way that so it was that careful enough

604
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 1: around your potus and what he's done. I find him

605
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: in an intriguing character, and I I'm looking forward to

606
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: this next election. I'm not sure what's going to happen,

607
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: and I don't think any of you guys know either,

608
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: But we have our own election coming up in about

609
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: nine weeks time, so we're ready much focused on on

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00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: the left, which is the labor party that ruled the

611
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: place at the moment, and the National which is the

612
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: right side, the right leaning Conservatives, if you will, and

613
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Speaker 1: they've just had a new leader elected, Judith Collins, who's

614
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: known as Crusher Collins. He's a quite a formidable character, um,

615
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 1: and she's going to be upper Jacinda our Dorn, who

616
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: comes from a place of of empathy and care. So

617
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: watching those two fight it out, these two very powerful

618
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: women fighting out at the top, it's going to be

619
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: a fascinating nine weeks here. So that will probably take

620
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: more of our attention than what your potus and the

621
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: rest of the gang are doing over the Be sure

622
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show week

623
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Speaker 1: days at two a m. Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Yeah. Well,

624
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Speaker 1: that's the great thing about elections. After the last couple

625
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: of elections here in America, Darcy, you can't you can't

626
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Speaker 1: trust the polling. Uh, you can't trust any of that.

627
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: It's all Uh, it's all a lot of a lot

628
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: of bullcrap that seems to be be mixed in there. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It's gotta make you feel good though, as you said, Yeah,

630
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Speaker 1: you live in a place where it's like seen as utopia.

631
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: I text you we were talking the other day and

632
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: there was somebody was spreading, hey, they should move the

633
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: NFL to New zealand bring the entire NFL to your country, Parcy,

634
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: and that it was of course, it was just you know,

635
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: somebody throwing stuff against the wall. But do you guys

636
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: have enough stadiums there? I mean you you need like

637
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: multiple stadiums and crazy it's it's it's a wild card scenario.

638
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: But do you have the logistics to make something like

639
00:30:52,520 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: that work? The wait, wait, whole stadium concept over here

640
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: to We held the Rugby World Cup there back in

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven and no one thought the country so small

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Speaker 1: could hold such a big event. And we we did

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Speaker 1: it well. We did it with gold stars, we did

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Speaker 1: particularly well. The Auckland issue is the Auckland has a

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Speaker 1: very it's a it's a fractioned stadium situation. We have

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Speaker 1: a national stadium called Eden Park, which when it was

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Speaker 1: built teen years ago, a hundred of years ago. Since then,

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Speaker 1: it's it's now in the middle of suburbia. Um and

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Speaker 1: there are a small group of people that don't like

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Speaker 1: games being played there at night. But I don't like

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Speaker 1: the lights on. There's limitations from counsel about how many

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Speaker 1: games can be on me because it is a it's

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Speaker 1: a it's an area where people live. Now, it's not

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Speaker 1: like out in the boom Docks anywhere. So we've got

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Speaker 1: that that can sets fifty thousand people. In extend that

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Speaker 1: they had the final of the Rugby World Cup. We

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Speaker 1: have a North Harbor Stadium just slightly north of the city,

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Speaker 1: like you know, plant a half an out of the

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Speaker 1: central city, which has about twenty thousand. We've got the

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Speaker 1: Warriors at Rugby League side. They've got a stadium that

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Speaker 1: holds about only six thousand. Down at Wellington we've got

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Speaker 1: a thirty thirty five thousand enclosed stadium. And the capital,

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Speaker 1: christ Church, as you know, suffered um the outrage of nature.

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Speaker 1: Mother Nature's sorry. I come from christ Church when the

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Speaker 1: earthquakes came, killed a number of people and just destroyed

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Speaker 1: the city, destroyed their stadium and it still hasn't got

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Speaker 1: a proper stadium. It's got a temporary lego stadium that

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Speaker 1: they throw up in half an hour called the Orange

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Speaker 1: Theory Stadium. What I called the Orange Theory lean to

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Speaker 1: It's not a stadium, it's a corrugated iron nailed together

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Speaker 1: in a right hurry, and that's still the stadium. They've

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Speaker 1: got another one plan, so there's really nothing in christ Church,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think they can fit twenty thousand and

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Speaker 1: this horrible facility that no one wants to go to.

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Speaker 1: And then third the south in Dunedin and there are

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Speaker 1: other main cities basically four to five main stadiums. They've

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Speaker 1: got a an indoor stadium called Foresight Bar Stadium, which

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Speaker 1: conceived thirty thou dollars thirty thousand people. If pushed a

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Speaker 1: christ Chichs was looking at an indoor stadium. Ham Auton

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Speaker 1: also have an okay stadium, but I really don't think

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Speaker 1: we've got the facilities to to cover something that large.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying that neither saying never. We're an industrious

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Speaker 1: punch and we're pretty good at doing things from time

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Speaker 1: to time, although I do one day what it's taken

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Speaker 1: so long for us to build a stadium in Canterbury.

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Speaker 1: Christ Church, which is the home of the Crusaders, who

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Speaker 1: are the runaway the best team in Super Rugby, which

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00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: is a Southern Hemisphere rugby competition. Um they're now on

689
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Speaker 1: the way to getting their fourth consecutive championships. They absolutely dominate,

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Speaker 1: yet they play in a tin sheet. It's bizarre and

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Speaker 1: dark on that. Now, when you're speaking about some of

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Speaker 1: the teams locally in New Zealand, are you guys going

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Speaker 1: through anything that the United States is when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the political correctness of athletic teams and franchises. I mean,

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Speaker 1: just for example, Ben and I have been talking earlier

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Speaker 1: in the week about the Washington Redskins, how they're gonna

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Speaker 1: retire the Redskins name, They're gonna come out with a

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Speaker 1: new name. And that's happened in college athletics too. You

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Speaker 1: have certain scots that have been retired, especially here in

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Speaker 1: California with with Long Beach State and some of other universities.

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Speaker 1: Has that happened at all in New Zealand? Is there

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Speaker 1: any kind of political correctness that's christ over into the

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Speaker 1: athletic realms? Yeah? There is. M I think if you know,

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Speaker 1: the term woke that New Zealand is reasonably what we're

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Speaker 1: reasonably accepted of new paradigms that people are willing to accept.

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Speaker 1: I mean people say I was traditional, when I'm right

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Speaker 1: into what Woody Allen once said. He said, tradition is

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Speaker 1: the illusion of permanence, and I think it is because

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00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: they say it's always been neigness, need stay. But in

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Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty years ago, woman couldn't vote and

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Speaker 1: it was okay to keep slaves. Now you're telling me

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Speaker 1: that that's still relevant in this day and age. Now,

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Speaker 1: it's not. Things change and everything changes your moving. I

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Speaker 1: think he's on the pretty woke to that and we'd

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Speaker 1: like to change. But the biggest thing we've had of

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Speaker 1: recent times, it will be familiar with the terrorist attack

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Speaker 1: that happened in christ Church where alone guvernment stormed into

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Speaker 1: a mosque and slaughtered for the Muslims. We never thought

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00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: anything like it would happen here and it devastated. Now

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Speaker 1: what what extended from that is that local team was

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Speaker 1: called the Crusaders, and if you know what a crusader is,

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Speaker 1: they were basically, you know, the men on many crusades

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Speaker 1: from England went and Muslims and they sported Muslims. That

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Speaker 1: was their motus apple under. That's what they did. So

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Speaker 1: the Crusaders. There was a lot of movement to change

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Speaker 1: the name of the Crusader after that mask attack. They

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Speaker 1: didn't want to be seen as that. In the end,

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Speaker 1: the name stayed, but all the iconography around the team disappeared.

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Speaker 1: I um, their their logo was a knight and chain

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Speaker 1: mail holding a great big sword. So they got rather

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Speaker 1: that they used to have horses that used to gallop

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Speaker 1: around the exterior of the study before the game played

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Speaker 1: mean dressed as knights with swords on these great, big personals,

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Speaker 1: these big war horses. So there was a lot of

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Speaker 1: conversation around the relevance of that does a crusader stand

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Speaker 1: for that? There was a crusader someone who crusades for justice,

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Speaker 1: someone who crusades for the good in life. So there

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Speaker 1: was pretty stern conversation around that, and it ended up

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Speaker 1: that the name stayed, but all the logos and the

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Speaker 1: visual around it was removed because we thought that in

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Speaker 1: this era it's probably not a good idea to do that,

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00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: and that was what the crusaderes came up with. Now

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Speaker 1: that it was quite devisive, I say we woke. There

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00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: is also a reasonable sway that the community that founded

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Speaker 1: unacceptable and they said the Crusaders to us does not

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Speaker 1: represent that you can't mess with our name. My thought

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Speaker 1: pattern on this is and I think it's the same

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Speaker 1: with your your Indian community when you look at what's

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Speaker 1: happening with the Redskins there now. I believe there was

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Speaker 1: polls taken and of the pulses didn't care. Of the

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Speaker 1: Indian pulses said it's not offensive to us, but team

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00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: percent did. So my figuring is, if you change the name,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. Well, they're not going to care if

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00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 1: you change the name, need it. But if there's team

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00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: percent that find it really offensive and it really is

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Speaker 1: upsetting and it's not going to work, why wouldn't you

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Speaker 1: change to night panthified? Will you balance you to to

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00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: the team to scene h But if the nine percent

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00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: don't care, why do I care if you change the name.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to keep team PA scene happy and

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Speaker 1: show that you're you're home thinking, community and some things

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Speaker 1: that will back in the day, I'm no longer sitable.

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Speaker 1: Does that make seems from us sounding too much like

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Speaker 1: a liberal? What's kind of character? You are very woke, Darcy,

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00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: I mean, my guy. The only problem with that line

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Speaker 1: of thinking is that we live in the age where

767
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: people are upset about everything. I mean, that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: But I I did want to listen, Darcy. I I

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Speaker 1: can't have you on this podcast, and I love that

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00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: you're doing this and it's wonderful. But when we talk

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Speaker 1: about team names, and I think this is what Guscott

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00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: was going for because on our show, as we we

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00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: we asked these dopey trivia questions to try to get

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Speaker 1: people to listen. We go to break. You know, we'll

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00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: ask you a question we know we're not supposed to break,

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00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: and inevitably, at least once a week on our show,

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00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: usually it's Justin and Cincinnati or somebody else will answer.

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Speaker 1: If I have a team related question, they will say

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00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: the All Blacks as the answer, because that you know, globally,

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00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: people look at that says, oh my god, that is

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00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: the most offensive name in the world. In New Zealand

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00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: has the rugby teams called the All Blacks. But you

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Speaker 1: explained to me, and I need you to explain to

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Speaker 1: our our listener, Darcy, that that is one of the

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00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: great misspellings in the history of the world in sports.

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Speaker 1: How the name all Blacks came about? Is that correct?

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Speaker 1: That's what you told me the other day. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: like the way you say. Tell our listener, is there

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Speaker 1: only one person listening to this podcast? And here I

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Speaker 1: thought that the break a few people. You guys are

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00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: obviously man, you're collapsed in all the writings that they

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Speaker 1: the story around the All Blacks and is they to

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00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: it England hundred something years ago and there was a

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Speaker 1: write up about the game is divided into two groups.

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Speaker 1: There the ford the ford packs who the the big

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00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: angry guys who do are the hard work. And there

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00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: are the back line and the backs are the fast

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00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: guys who do all the running and scoring all the tribes.

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Speaker 1: They're like the Glana Kits where the forward pack of

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Speaker 1: the big grizzled veterans. So when we went over there

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00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: and played that, the local media were stunned by this

802
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: team where it appeared that the entire team were backs.

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00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: They all played with the same verb and the same speed,

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00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: and they were described in one mem this is this

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00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: is the one of the tales go around their name,

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Speaker 1: that they were all backs. Of course they wore black.

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00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: That being moved to being from all backs to all

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Speaker 1: blacks because they all wore black. So there's a an

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Speaker 1: argument that says that it was a misspelling. Initially that

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00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: someone called them the all backs and then someone thought

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Speaker 1: they were on black. So I will just scored the

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Speaker 1: the all blacks, and well it's stuck and they're all

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Speaker 1: blacks ever since. So our whole national color is black.

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Speaker 1: That is our psyche. All of our teams we're black,

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Speaker 1: except the football team, the Sacre team, they've gone the

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Speaker 1: other way. They were white and they're called the all

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00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: the Whites. Now that's not a racist thing, that's just

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Speaker 1: because they were all white. Um, we've got the Black

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Speaker 1: Caps as a national cricket team. They were all black,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know it's gonna like this very much.

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Speaker 1: We have a national badminton team as well, and you

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Speaker 1: know when badminton they use a shuttle cart, so their

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Speaker 1: nickname for a while was the Black Cocks. Now it's

824
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,720
Speaker 1: like we've we've got the Black Stocks. The Black Socks

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00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 1: are a softball team. So all of our national teams

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Speaker 1: have got either black or silver. A lot of the

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Speaker 1: women's teams are the Ferns, the black Ferns, the silver Ferns,

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Speaker 1: and an ex team. So it's very much intrinsic announce

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Speaker 1: society that all of our sports teams have got that

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Speaker 1: attachment to either the silver fern, which is out a

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Speaker 1: national emblem, or the black And we've tried to change

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00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: our flag a number of years ago, and basically we

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00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: all wanted a black flag with a silver fern on it.

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Speaker 1: But a lot of people pointed out that it's kind

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00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: of like a pirate flag and maybe an aggressive flag

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00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: to have. So at the end, you're not staying with

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00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: the older boy with the four stars in Jack in

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00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: the Corner. So that's a rough idea about where this

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00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: name comes from. It's not racially based. It was a

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00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: typo that someone jumped on, and some of might argue

841
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: against me on that one, but as far as I'm concerned,

842
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 1: that's the story, and I'll tell you what. I'm sticking

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00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: with it. If you say it was enough conviction, that's

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Speaker 1: the truth, right. But I love it. It's like you

845
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: know in America, right, the salon was the term. I

846
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: guess in England they call it salon, but in America

847
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: they called it salon. They misspelled it, so people pronounce

848
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: it salon. But but it is crazy, and I love

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Speaker 1: that these teams have a logos Darcy, like you know,

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00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: like the what what's the uh? What do you say?

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00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: The Bad Mitten teams, the Black Cocks, what was their logo?

852
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Speaker 1: I don't know if if it saw the light of day, guys,

853
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not sure if they even use that

854
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: terminology anymore. It could have merely been something that was

855
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: created by a number of fans out there because it

856
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: was kind of cheeky and kind of funny. I mean,

857
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: the hockey team are called the Black Sticks, and it

858
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: goes on. It just carries on. The Most of the logos,

859
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: as I said, are silver fern. It's um a national plant.

860
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: So it's a beautiful green fern on the on the

861
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: on the under side of it. When you turn it,

862
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: when the light hits it, it's a really iridescent silver

863
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: colors extraordinary. Same, that's something that we use. And of

864
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: course the Kiwi we used as well. A national bird,

865
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: which is odd because our national bird can't fly. Um,

866
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: what kind of birds? Explain this? Your national bird is

867
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: the how is it a bird? If you care fly?

868
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: What's up with that? Well, you've got to remember that

869
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: up until about eight hundred years ago, there was there

870
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: was no human life on yoursel. There was nobody here.

871
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: There was nothing here, so evolution the birds didn't have

872
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: to fly because there was no predators. There was no

873
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: there were no mammalian predators in dis country. Nothing. It

874
00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: was entirely populated by birds. So the birds of old

875
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: over time, because they didn't have to fly away from

876
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: things to eat them, they ended up being ground dwelling.

877
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: And we had a bird called more m A and

878
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: the more it was it was an enormous and it

879
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: was only a hunted to extinction, probably a hundred of

880
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: years ago, maybe a little longer. And we're talking in

881
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: your money. This is like a twelve thirty ft thing

882
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: that had these massive legs but no wings and a

883
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: huge night neck. So there are a series of birds

884
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: that developed like that, and the Kiwi is one of them.

885
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: It's very shy, it's nocturnal. You never see it. It

886
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: only comes out at night. It's got a massive, long

887
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,240
Speaker 1: beak and a big fat backside and it just picks

888
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: around in the undergrowth, eating grubs and the like. There's

889
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: a joke around the key we represents some your average

890
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: New Zealand male. It eats roots and leaves. Darius, speaking

891
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: of predators, and you mentioned being here in Las s Angeles,

892
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: so I have to ask, since you have a nice

893
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: female nestling in your in your bed this morning, m

894
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: give me the difference that you've noticed so far between

895
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: women that you've you've seen here in l A or

896
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: California and those in New Zealand, because obviously we get

897
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: a ton of people that always talk about going down

898
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: under because American men are are loved by Australian and

899
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: New Zealand women. Is that the case? And if so,

900
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: give me a sales pitch. Now, well, no, that sounds

901
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: like an urban myth, because I'm told that when we

902
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: go to the States, the American women love the Simlars

903
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: because they love our dull front of an accent. They

904
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: find an extremely disgusting. But I couldn't possibly comment on that.

905
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: I can't speak for an entire nation about what they

906
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: like and what they find desires. I think that something

907
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: about New Zealand women because of the nature of how

908
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: far away New Zealand has been. We've got to thinklled

909
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 1: the number eight why philosophy, which means because we were

910
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 1: so distant back a hundred years ago, hundred and fifty

911
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: years ago, if we needed something here in New Zealand,

912
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: we had to make it ourselves. So it gets some

913
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: why and would do it ourselves because there's no way

914
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: we could bring it in from from overseas, because it

915
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 1: was six months on the leaky boat to get anywhere nearest.

916
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: So we become very very self sufficient. And I think

917
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: that the New Zealand woman is like that. That that

918
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: personifies them. They're very very self sufficient, very hard work,

919
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: not afraid to get their their hands dirty, and they

920
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: see themselves as as an equal to the male. And

921
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: you don't remember that New Zealand was the first country

922
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: in the world to allow women to vote. We're very

923
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: forward thinking and they women as well. We've got a

924
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: woman leader now, the leader of the opposition as a woman.

925
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: Our governor Genia was a woman. We're we're very proactive

926
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: in that space. I think that's something that we're proud

927
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: of is that women are on even standings that they

928
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: can do anything just like your average man has. And

929
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: I think that that sums up the New Zealand. New

930
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: Zealand woman really hard working, extraordinarily capable and will not

931
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: take any grief from anybody. And why but tide if

932
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: you get in their way, because I drop you on

933
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: your backside with a swift slap around the face. Quite

934
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: won't be a slap, not over here to be a

935
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: closed first, you're a cuff dunch mate, they're a tough bunch.

936
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports star line up

937
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: in the Natia and catch all of our shows at

938
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: Fox sports Radio dot com and within the I Heart

939
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: Radio app search f s are to listen live. Well, yeah,

940
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,479
Speaker 1: I think Gascon was trying to he wanted some tips

941
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: because he's, you know, looking for later advice. Is kind

942
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: of curious if we got the real Housewives of Orange

943
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: County out here, darcys, So you get women that are

944
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: just pretentious, yeah, pretentious. Yeah, it's not good. But well

945
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: there are pockets of there. There pockets of that everywhere

946
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: as well. But I think in general, the women of

947
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: this country would like to see them as a very

948
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: self sufficient, extraordinarily capable and we'll give as good as

949
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: they get and they'll take on the boys. So when

950
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: you come over here, just be prepared. There's not a

951
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: lot of shy, retiring wallflowers over here. They're very upfront.

952
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: I put it this way. M my second marriage to

953
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: the mother of my darling child. She asked me. She

954
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: essentially dragged me by the throke to the aisle. I

955
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: want you, I want your deans. We're gonna make a baby,

956
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: and you've got no say in the matter. I mean,

957
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: she was my best friend for probably teen years, and

958
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: one day she just rocked around to the house all

959
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: dressed up, looking amazing. Sid, I don't want a best

960
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: friend anymore. I want a husband, and you will you

961
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: marry me? We weren't even seeing each other. She was

962
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: just my mate. Within three months we were married and

963
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: she was pregnant. And I'm who're standing there going, that's

964
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: a good story, Darcy. We we gotta wrap this up.

965
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: And how how can the people here in America they

966
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: want to hear you on the radio? The great thing

967
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: today is with streaming and all I know you're on Twitter, right,

968
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,959
Speaker 1: You're you've got a Twitter account. How can people reach

969
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: out if they're they want to hear more of your

970
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: your wisdom and your knowledge and all that, well they can.

971
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: I think that these beest things to do is Facebook

972
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: is Facebook is also and infiltrated you sell them somewhat

973
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: extremely popular over here. I just do a search for

974
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: Darcy on z B. It's just d A. R. C

975
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Y on z B. And on that Facebook page you

976
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: can find all the lengths. You can find all the

977
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: interview you you can find news and tips and bits

978
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: and pieces and through there you better get to my

979
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: Twitter feed, my Instagram feed as well. You'll find all

980
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: the links to that news talk z B is the

981
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: website news talk to CB dot co dot Nz. But

982
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: d A are c why is the best way to

983
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 1: to start off your your deep Southern hemisphere love of

984
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: fear with sports in the Shaky Aisles artio as we

985
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: like to call it, that's the that's Mardi name for

986
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: New Zealand art. It means landed on white cloud because

987
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: unlike l a um, yeah, we've got a big white

988
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: cloud over rain quite a lot a beautiful place here

989
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: And I can't you know, Darcy, I can't wait at

990
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: some point when the parkalypse ends and you get more

991
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: time on the radio and I can come on and

992
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: maybe they'll get cricket back. And I love bragging my

993
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: friends Darcy that I got pre emptied. I got bumped

994
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: from your should because of a cricket match that wouldn't end.

995
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: Several times that happened over the years. It's right, which

996
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 1: I loved. Thank you, Darcy, appreciate it have been wonderful

997
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: and thanks very much for giving me the opportunity to

998
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: to talk to your audience or one of them, you guys.

999
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: Separ wonderful, awesome, Thank you Darcy. That was great, man, Yeah,

1000
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: we're great. That will air tomorrow at Friday for us,

1001
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: which I guess is Saturday for you. It's gonna drop.

1002
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: I'll tweet it out. It's gonna be like it, uh,

1003
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: six in the morning our time, which is probably like

1004
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: was it four in the morning your time? Maybe I

1005
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know the time to it. But

1006
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: just see that's a tweet with a link. We just

1007
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: download it, listen to it. I didn't say anything that's

1008
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: going to get me in trouble with my work around

1009
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: the resumption of radio Sport if it will come back on,

1010
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: because when push comes to shove, well, we all really

1011
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,479
Speaker 1: think that they were on the cross eas anyway, because

1012
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: we're too bloody expensive, and as soon as they had

1013
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: an opportunity, they just guessed as convenient, which is the

1014
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: stupidest thing they've ever done. But I can't complain about

1015
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 1: it because I'm still working. This approach is under the

1016
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: z b Oven. I'm time. All right, man, be good,

1017
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: I'll text you later, Darcy. Thank you may be good?

1018
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: All right, good, Yeah, no worries you guys, fine,