Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me.
Speaker 2: We all about that high school drama. Girl drama, girl,
Speaker 2: all about them.
Speaker 1: High school queens.
Speaker 3: We'll take you for a ride, and our comic girl
Speaker 3: shared for the right teams.
Speaker 4: Drama, queens, my girl fashion, but your tough girl, you
Speaker 4: could sit with us.
Speaker 3: Girl drama, Queens drama, Queens drama, Queens drama, drama, Queens
Speaker 3: drama queens.
Speaker 1: Mmm my god, these potatoes are.
Speaker 5: These potatoes are amazing?
Speaker 2: That's how we start this episode.
Speaker 5: Yes, you guys, this episode was potatoes.
Speaker 1: It's so good.
Speaker 3: Yes, healthy all around, just really filling and like warm,
Speaker 3: but all the toppings.
Speaker 5: Yeah mm hmmmm, I had it all.
Speaker 1: It does feel like a nice mash potato.
Speaker 5: The mash potato episode.
Speaker 1: That's the title.
Speaker 3: Boys and Girls. We are in episode six O one,
Speaker 3: Season six, Episode one.
Speaker 6: Touch me.
Speaker 3: I'm going to scream one.
Speaker 2: I loved it, me too.
Speaker 5: You guys, I remember this, do you? I remember bits
Speaker 5: and pieces of things, but this one could have happened
Speaker 5: last week?
Speaker 2: Really sure, my god?
Speaker 1: Say more? Really?
Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. Because we had to do a
Speaker 5: ton of press at the end of season five for
Speaker 5: that cliffhanger of who Lucas was gonna pay yeah, and
Speaker 5: none of us knew. They like wouldn't tell us yeah,
Speaker 5: because we weren't good enough actors that they trusted us
Speaker 5: to carry that knowledge and not be like all snarky.
Speaker 5: And so I just called my shot in those interviews
Speaker 5: because I was all, like, he's picking me, Like, no question.
Speaker 5: Why would you guys ask them questions like this. So
Speaker 5: then when he did, I felt really vindicated.
Speaker 2: But we'll get there, We'll get there.
Speaker 5: I just remember feeling really cocky about this, just like, dude,
Speaker 5: it you shouldn't have.
Speaker 3: You deserved it, Peyton after all that, after all she's
Speaker 3: been through. I just need Peyton to be happy.
Speaker 1: Guys same thanks.
Speaker 5: Brook have traded places in this episode and feel it's
Speaker 5: so weird.
Speaker 3: I know, Okay, let me do the synopsis. Look, the
Speaker 3: girl of Lucas's dreams shows up at the airport. Duh,
Speaker 3: it's Peyton.
Speaker 1: Nay.
Speaker 3: Danny's comeback is halted by news that could change his career,
Speaker 3: while Dan's life hangs in the balance. Marvin and Millicon
Speaker 3: wrestle with leaving tree Hill, and Brooke and Victoria battle
Speaker 3: over close Over Bros. And it comes to a surprising head.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's intense.
Speaker 5: It really was. But this dream sequence that we stop
Speaker 5: art with, oh, I love it. Let's just get right
Speaker 5: into that, because that was a hoot.
Speaker 2: It was I.
Speaker 3: Felt like I was really watching a great It had
Speaker 3: all the makings of one of those nineties rom coms.
Speaker 3: It felt so elevated and uh just felt like new
Speaker 3: ideas but still comforting and cozy. I loved going through
Speaker 3: the rotating door and suddenly into his bedroom and then
Speaker 3: suddenly out on the deck with Lindsey and the terrible
Speaker 3: green screen, which we can forgive because it was two
Speaker 3: thousand and whatever, our six and uh, oh, I loved that.
Speaker 3: I loved it. What do you think?
Speaker 1: I loved it?
Speaker 5: So Stuart Gillard is somebody. He did four episodes of
Speaker 5: our show, but he also did just like he'd charmed.
Speaker 5: He did all like nine, two and zero. He was
Speaker 5: like a teen drama dependable guy, and it's so nice
Speaker 5: when you have big episodes like that. I'm still scrolling
Speaker 5: through all of his credits. Oh.
Speaker 7: He did Loansome Dove the series in nineteen ninety four. Oh,
Speaker 7: this is why we love Stewart Joy jog your memory.
Speaker 7: He directed five episodes of Avonlea. Oh wow, if you're
Speaker 7: not an Anna green Gables nerd out there, it was
Speaker 7: a show that was on in the nineties that all
Speaker 7: took place in the.
Speaker 5: World of Avonlea on Prince Edward Island. This is for
Speaker 5: like history nerd chicks, and we loved him because he
Speaker 5: had that Canadian wholesome sensibility.
Speaker 3: I can still see his face in my mind. He's
Speaker 3: right there.
Speaker 5: He was the Avonlea director. Yeah, all of his credits
Speaker 5: we were like, oh my god, you worked with Sarah Pauley.
Speaker 3: Well, it's probably why he knew how to get this.
Speaker 3: Everything did feel very sincere in this episode.
Speaker 1: It did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like he's talented at getting He knows
Speaker 3: how to get that. I don't know how. I mean,
Speaker 3: I haven't directed enough to be able really know what
Speaker 3: the skill set requires to be able to grab that
Speaker 3: and somehow make it consistent in every job that you do.
Speaker 3: But he does. I feel like he really knows how
Speaker 3: to grab the sincerity and make it come through.
Speaker 5: He's really nice, Like there's a it's really easy as
Speaker 5: a director to sometimes fall into the chaos of the day,
Speaker 5: like trying to get all the shots a specially on
Speaker 5: an episode this massive.
Speaker 3: It is huge.
Speaker 5: As an actor, you feel that pressure and you're like, oh,
Speaker 5: I only have like two takes to get this right,
Speaker 5: and oh god, I gotta get it right. And if
Speaker 5: the director's a little on edge, you can feel really
Speaker 5: on edge. And Stewart would just come up and be like.
Speaker 2: Hey, that was really good.
Speaker 5: Do you want to try it? Maybe this and that
Speaker 5: kind of like loving energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that's right.
Speaker 3: It was cozy and relaxing.
Speaker 1: Well, there's also something I think to be said for
Speaker 1: positive reinforcement in general, and I think there's you know,
Speaker 1: we obviously existed on a set where we didn't get
Speaker 1: as much of that as you could or should. And
Speaker 1: I think when you're in a high pressure episode like
Speaker 1: something this big, I mean even like y'all looking at
Speaker 1: my notes from this, I'm like, Jesus, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a long time que.
Speaker 2: Three page Yeah, Like it's long.
Speaker 1: But you know, there's something about the positive the way
Speaker 1: positive reinforcement can also undo the stress that we were
Speaker 1: all under in a in a premiere episode because of
Speaker 1: the time constraints, because of the size of the script.
Speaker 1: Somebody who's just like you guys are nailing it. Let's
Speaker 1: have fun, and you go okay, yeah, and then and
Speaker 1: then suddenly, instead of being in a panic that you're
Speaker 1: running out of time, you kind of feel like you're
Speaker 1: on an adventure. And I feel like the energy of
Speaker 1: this being an adventure is in the episode, like these
Speaker 1: montages of of us being able to watch Lucas being
Speaker 1: married to each of these three women. It kind of
Speaker 1: reminds me of beginning of The Princess Bride, like when
Speaker 1: they're reading the book and you know you're getting into
Speaker 1: the fantasy. Like Stuart did something with this episode where
Speaker 1: it felt magical in the way that those movies we
Speaker 1: grew up on felt magical. Even the card guy, like
Speaker 1: when you in the airport, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I love him. I love the way Chad touched him
Speaker 1: to see if he was real. Like it all was
Speaker 1: so sweet and it was.
Speaker 3: Like everything flowed really well yeah each other, and.
Speaker 1: None of it felt manufactured, even though it was hyper realism.
Speaker 1: You know, it was really cool.
Speaker 3: It's kind of a big deal that they gave Stuart
Speaker 3: this season opener too, because usually agrees where those episodes
Speaker 3: were done by somebody in house, meaning one of our
Speaker 3: producers or somebody who was an editor on the show,
Speaker 3: or somebody was just already around and sort of in
Speaker 3: the boys club, and Stuart never had that boy's club
Speaker 3: energy about him. So actually just really appreciate that they
Speaker 3: saw his talent, recognized it, and wanted to, you know,
Speaker 3: let him take the reins on this first episode. It's
Speaker 3: a big deal.
Speaker 5: I'm just realizing as we look at our breakdown. You know,
Speaker 5: I remember there being this buzz that for this opening
Speaker 5: sequence we had gotten this amazing actor Bill Cobb to
Speaker 5: come in and play the card guy, you know, the
Speaker 5: mysterious guy that like encourages Lucas. And I remember, like
Speaker 5: everybody was going through his credits and they're like, you
Speaker 5: know him from this, you know him from this, you
Speaker 5: know him from this, you know him from this. I
Speaker 5: mean Bill Cobb has one hundred and ninety four credits
Speaker 5: on IMDb.
Speaker 2: One hundred and ninety four.
Speaker 5: He had been in everything, I mean everything, and he
Speaker 5: brought such like gravitas to what could have been like
Speaker 5: a cheesy dream sequence. He made it real. He made
Speaker 5: it really fun. The night at the airport with him
Speaker 5: and Chad was like a blast. I love that this
Speaker 5: like really accomplished. Older actor came in and he seemed
Speaker 5: like he had a good time, Like our show was chaos,
Speaker 5: and so you want to be on good behavior when
Speaker 5: we have great guest stars like that. I mean, he
Speaker 5: was just like, y'all are doing okay, this is fun.
Speaker 2: Enjoy this And maybe that's.
Speaker 5: What it was for me. And why I kind of
Speaker 5: had a sentimental response to this episode is because I
Speaker 5: remember this older actor at the very very beginning, not
Speaker 5: just of the episode, but of my last season, and
Speaker 5: I knew it was going to be my last season
Speaker 5: being like, like, enjoy this finally, you know, like get
Speaker 5: whatever you need to get out of it and enjoy it.
Speaker 5: But I have thoughts on the three different marriages, but
Speaker 5: I want to hear yours first.
Speaker 8: Go first.
Speaker 3: They took you guys to New York for that or
Speaker 3: was that somewhere in Wilmington.
Speaker 1: No, that was all in Wilmington. Really, Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: you know, they used stock footage of New York and
Speaker 1: then you know, when you first kind of see Brooke
Speaker 1: and Lucas part of the reason that they show everything
Speaker 1: so close with traffic and all those rented taxi cabs
Speaker 1: was to make it look more crowded, and then there's
Speaker 1: that one shot kind of between two buildings where you
Speaker 1: see New York the skyline behind us. Those are those
Speaker 1: two buildings on Front Street, like that old hospital building
Speaker 1: is on the right, and then whatever's on the corner,
Speaker 1: it's like a bank or something. And they green screened
Speaker 1: New York into that little park pathway like when you
Speaker 1: always go on the Haunted Ghost tours. And then everything
Speaker 1: else they shot super close, and they had like clothing
Speaker 1: racks out and all the things to try to make
Speaker 1: it look like New York. And it's interesting because it
Speaker 1: gave me real nostalgia for when Brian George came and
Speaker 1: played the taxi driver with me, and I feel like
Speaker 1: Brian Brian having that pedigree from like Seinfeld and everything
Speaker 1: he'd done. It gave me watching the whole Card Dealer
Speaker 1: sequence gave me Brian George nostalgia and interestingly for me,
Speaker 1: tied together like a feeling of New York and Brooke
Speaker 1: that I really as a viewer now, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I love this.
Speaker 3: I mean Brook belongs in New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it works for her, and I loved I
Speaker 1: really will say, even though Brooke is having through this episode,
Speaker 1: she's really being tried. You know, she's got a lot
Speaker 1: of like heavy shit on her plate. I really loved
Speaker 1: that the writers gave me a lot of funny stuff
Speaker 1: to do, like the sort of flipouts and the outbursts
Speaker 1: and all of it felt really hilarious. Even really yeah,
Speaker 1: just on a rampage and like, you know, Millie, you're
Speaker 1: always in a good mood. And then it cuts to
Speaker 1: her screaming. And I even saw it in the dream sequence,
Speaker 1: like when she shows up and it's you know, Lucas's
Speaker 1: wife number one, and she hits some flowers, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's like he's like, well, I'm supposed to get
Speaker 1: you Flowers's her anniversary.
Speaker 2: She's like yeah, but I wanted to make sure I
Speaker 2: liked them.
Speaker 1: It's like, I love it.
Speaker 6: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love seeing a glimpse of what Lucas and Brooke
Speaker 3: might might have been together. You know, it didn't feel
Speaker 3: entirely wrong, which we were saying, you know before in
Speaker 3: the last one, like they've probably made a good partnership.
Speaker 3: I could see those two characters working well together. Man, though,
Speaker 3: when he walked through those doors, that the revolving door
Speaker 3: into his bedroom, because the New York stuff was great
Speaker 3: and it was glossy and fun and everything that you
Speaker 3: love about, Like I said, that nineties rom cub thing
Speaker 3: that gets gives you all the feels. And then those
Speaker 3: two characters together and we love them so much.
Speaker 1: Well, and you know what I liked about it, to
Speaker 1: your point, Joy, is that it doesn't quite work. Like
Speaker 1: you see how they'd make a good partnership, and it's
Speaker 1: glossy and it's fun, and like she's got her company
Speaker 1: and he's got his book tour and they're this cute
Speaker 1: power couple, but neither of them is really getting what
Speaker 1: they need. Like he wants more intimacy and time, he
Speaker 1: wants to go home. She wants a big city life.
Speaker 1: Like I sort of liked that. It was sweet, but
Speaker 1: you can also see it's not quite right. And I
Speaker 1: thought that's why it was really smart to start on
Speaker 1: Lucas and Brook, because I forgot that that's how the
Speaker 1: episode started. Dude.
Speaker 9: We all just were like, well, like you guys, at
Speaker 9: all the three of us were like, what is happening?
Speaker 9: This is weird, Like what's going on? In a way,
Speaker 9: it's like, oh, yeah, the shoe almost fits, but it doesn't.
Speaker 1: Half size too small.
Speaker 3: He goes through that revolving door into his bedroom and
Speaker 3: suddenly there's Peyton, and it's all is right with the world,
Speaker 3: maybe for small Hillary. You're glowing in this episode. Your
Speaker 3: skin looks amazing, your hair makeup looks amazing, your clothes
Speaker 3: look amazing. You just were It was like you were
Speaker 3: in a hole on a whole other level, very personally too.
Speaker 1: Well, that's it, remember you, guys.
Speaker 5: I was like finally single. I was like going to
Speaker 5: and we just came back from a hiatus and like, yeah,
Speaker 5: you just had been fun.
Speaker 1: You know, Like isn't it kind of wild though when
Speaker 1: people look at you and are like god, you just
Speaker 1: look so good, Like what's going on with you? And
Speaker 1: you're like, I got out of the wrong relationship. I
Speaker 1: do look great. My skin looks amazing, doesn't it.
Speaker 5: That's what happens when you don't have stress hormones in
Speaker 5: your body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, less cortisol makes you gorgeous. You looked gorgeous.
Speaker 5: And it felt fun to just be like fun and
Speaker 5: flirty with someone because that's what I was getting to
Speaker 5: do in real life. It was just like I don't
Speaker 5: even have to act like this is I'm just having
Speaker 5: the best time ever.
Speaker 3: It so came through and it felt so good seeing
Speaker 3: those two together.
Speaker 5: But then like the Lindsay thing made sense too.
Speaker 1: And you know what I liked about that is that
Speaker 1: Brooke and Lucas don't quite fit. It's like square peg
Speaker 1: round they love each other. But eh, then you see
Speaker 1: Peyton and Joy you said it, it's like a brother
Speaker 1: of fresh air. You go, oh, that makes sense, and
Speaker 1: they look good together and there's like a sweetness and
Speaker 1: there's a humor and an ease. And then you see
Speaker 1: Lindsay and you really go, oh the view into the
Speaker 1: dynamic of each of those couples. I thought it was
Speaker 1: so smart that their dialogue was it's easy with us,
Speaker 1: isn't it? Yeah, the easiest, And you go, oh, the easiest,
Speaker 1: Like who's he gonna pick? Of these two women, who's
Speaker 1: he gonna pick? Like it gave me pause for a second.
Speaker 1: I was like, does Lindsay come to the airport and
Speaker 1: then does everything blow up? Or is it Peyton? I
Speaker 1: don't remember, I'm stressed.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I just love It's like definitely Peyton because she's
Speaker 8: everyone else has like a life, right, everyone else is
Speaker 8: like I've got my business and.
Speaker 5: Lindsay's like, you know, we're gonna go do my world.
Speaker 5: You know we're gonna wear navy and white and played
Speaker 5: tennis and yep, you know.
Speaker 2: God coun crags clubs.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: Paton's like, no, dude, not only am I going to
Speaker 5: be at home fires burning, but I'm going to be
Speaker 5: in your mom's home.
Speaker 1: Nothing, baby, I will come to you. Yeah. By the way,
Speaker 1: it's perfect because in the dream sequence, Lucas tells Brookie
Speaker 1: missus tree Hill, and then Peyton is with him in
Speaker 1: his childhood home. But nothing is more home than that.
Speaker 3: That's right. The thing about Lucas and Lindsay, as much
Speaker 3: as I see positive things in their relationship, they really
Speaker 3: do come from two totally different worlds and upbringings and backgrounds,
Speaker 3: and it I like the way that they interact and
Speaker 3: it feels like they have a lot to learn from
Speaker 3: each other. But I don't see like fun playful that
Speaker 3: the knowing each other you when you kind of come
Speaker 3: from the same place, the same stuff, even if it's
Speaker 3: different countries, different walks of life, different cultures, there's a
Speaker 3: through line when you grow up with It's like your
Speaker 3: bag's match. It's a relationship thing. I tend to say,
Speaker 3: like you could fit with somebody, but it's not. The
Speaker 3: baggage kind of has to match, like your bags to match,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? You got to like understand
Speaker 3: each other's baggage. And I feel like Lucas and lindsay do,
Speaker 3: I mean, Lucas and Peyton do Lucas and Lindsay don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 5: I think more than anything, I hated like dating and
Speaker 5: people would be like, oh my god, what's your favorite band?
Speaker 5: Because it's like this answer is going to change in
Speaker 5: six months. Yeah, like let's not weigh this.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And Jeffrey was the first person I met that was like,
Speaker 5: what's your trauma? Where do you want to live in
Speaker 5: ten years? And I was like, okay, mister, because we
Speaker 5: were both we were both oldest kids. We were both
Speaker 5: overachievers and people pleasers that then like kind of crashed
Speaker 5: and burned and we both just wanted to disappear into
Speaker 5: the wilderness. And it was like, oh great, we don't
Speaker 5: have anything in common really except for the stuff that
Speaker 5: matters and.
Speaker 3: The most important things. Yeah, the fundamental building blocks of
Speaker 3: who we are.
Speaker 5: Peyton and Lucas have both grown up just like never
Speaker 5: quite fitting in but having to pretend like they did.
Speaker 5: And they're both sad but also optimistic and the same
Speaker 5: way I.
Speaker 3: Just fighting their way through everything, just like trying to
Speaker 3: make their own way in the world.
Speaker 5: I don't think I knew that it was going to
Speaker 5: be Peyton until we got the script like a couple
Speaker 5: of weeks before. Just loved it well.
Speaker 1: By the way. I remember getting the script and opening it,
Speaker 1: do you guys it's Lucas in New York And I
Speaker 1: was like, what, Like, you gotta be kidding me, This
Speaker 1: makes no sense. I just like I immediately was like,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get so much on the message boards.
Speaker 1: People are going to be so many Lucas anst Jesus.
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with this. And then it
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this makes sense. So I remember how
Speaker 1: misdirected we all felt, being like we.
Speaker 2: Didn't freak you out, dude.
Speaker 5: But the whole montage of like Hayley and Nathan and
Speaker 5: Jamie and all the gross thing just pick one, just beah.
Speaker 1: But I think what I like so much about it
Speaker 1: is this sometimes the relationship stuff on our show is like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's TV drama, It's not realistic. It's it's fantastical,
Speaker 1: and we all at times were like, Wow, that got me.
Speaker 1: And at other times we're like this is insane, Like
Speaker 1: how did we ever act these words and make them
Speaker 1: feel believable? But what I loved about this was that
Speaker 1: it all felt so real and to your point about
Speaker 1: how you figure out how to align with the right person.
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 1: The idea, like you're like you were saying, joy, Like
Speaker 1: Lucas and Lindsey they have a lot in common, but
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily the right stuff. They're aligned in their careers,
Speaker 1: they're aligned in like mission. They might want to build
Speaker 1: the same sort of world, but like, can they sit
Speaker 1: at home and talk about where they come from and
Speaker 1: where their pain is and what they want to be
Speaker 1: in the quiet moments? Hill like you're saying you can
Speaker 1: do with Jeff, Like this is something I think that
Speaker 1: is so human and I mean, my god, we've all
Speaker 1: witnessed each other trying to figure this out for twenty
Speaker 1: years in our friendships. Like you get in the arena,
Speaker 1: you get in the ring, you throw it in and
Speaker 1: see if it's going to work. But if it's not,
Speaker 1: if you're not aligned in the right place, it's just
Speaker 1: not going to work forever. And I like getting to
Speaker 1: see somebody figure that out, like what the proper alignment
Speaker 1: is In all the dumb shit we ever did on
Speaker 1: this show, I think that this is like one of
Speaker 1: the truest things we've ever done. Yeah, And I think
Speaker 1: that's why when you walked into the airport and you
Speaker 1: were like I could feel your heart fluttering through the screen,
Speaker 1: I burst into tears. You guys like friends at all.
Speaker 1: We watched this episode and Hillary walked into that airport
Speaker 1: to run toward Chad, and I was like, what is happening?
Speaker 1: I just sobbed because romantic, so romantic and so true,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's it. Yeah, it is satisfying.
Speaker 1: It was beautiful.
Speaker 5: I think I had stayed away from Chad intentionally when
Speaker 5: we were shooting that because I know we were both
Speaker 5: excited that it was Lucas and Peyton like you didn't
Speaker 5: know that he knew either, And we had really fallen
Speaker 5: into a good rhythm with one another in the previous
Speaker 5: seasons with the work that we've done, and I think
Speaker 5: we were excited to finally just like buckle down and
Speaker 5: do the damn thing and have less drama. I remember
Speaker 5: really feeling excited that I got to run through that
Speaker 5: airport and like run up to him, like we were
Speaker 5: so fucking pomped to be able to real be together.
Speaker 5: It really and there was nothing romantic going on in
Speaker 5: our friendship at all. It was just we were excited
Speaker 5: because we knew the fans weren't going to be excited,
Speaker 5: and we couldn't wait to just like bring it to life.
Speaker 5: I don't miss a lot about acting, but moments like
Speaker 5: that where your teammate and you are just like at
Speaker 5: the same place.
Speaker 3: You've been investing in something for so long, You've been
Speaker 3: watching you know, you have been building these characters for
Speaker 3: so long that to see something happen for those characters
Speaker 3: that you've fallen in love with, investing so much of
Speaker 3: your heart and soul and guts into to see them
Speaker 3: get what they want, it feels good.
Speaker 5: And I I mean I ran through that airport. I
Speaker 5: was like, y'all need to get out of the way.
Speaker 5: Move And the only other time I've done that in
Speaker 5: my adult life was at my wedding when everyone's like
Speaker 5: you walked down the aisle really really fast.
Speaker 2: And be like, I gotta get up there.
Speaker 5: To him, I gotta get there. Yeah, there's that moment.
Speaker 5: The sense of urgency is. I think what is exciting
Speaker 5: to me because when you're a girl.
Speaker 6: Who tries really hard to like be cool, just be cool, man,
Speaker 6: be cool, when you feel that sense of urgency that
Speaker 6: makes you look like a huge dork, like you.
Speaker 1: Want to bottle that. What a feeling.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you make me want to dork out and move fast.
Speaker 3: So they go to Wait, they go to Vegas.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 5: He wasn't even like, baby, let's date right, He was like,
Speaker 5: let's get we're already dated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, come on, you guys knew each other well enough.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 1: I love it you've proposed you've broken up, Like, we come.
Speaker 3: On, we're ready, let's ask me to marry you, which
Speaker 3: she doesn't even give him a chance to do. But wait, okay,
Speaker 3: so they go to Vegas. The Vegas set's amazing. The
Speaker 3: guy looks just like Elvis.
Speaker 1: The Vegas set is really good.
Speaker 3: I wish they'd left that up. I feel like we
Speaker 3: could have milked that for a lot long. Yeah so good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that should have been like a Honey Grove episode,
Speaker 5: like we should have all gone to Vegas.
Speaker 3: Yes, like friends I loved the Vegas set.
Speaker 5: I didn't see anything wrong with it. So when everyone was.
Speaker 2: Like, isn't this cheesy, I was.
Speaker 3: Like, Oh, yeah, it's Vegas.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: I thought it was perfect. Also, I got to say,
Speaker 1: for as much as we had many an experience where
Speaker 1: we'd come into a set and be like why, Like,
Speaker 1: for me, in my start, I was like, why is
Speaker 1: everything purple? Like who picks Barney Purple for like a
Speaker 1: high end clothing store? What is happening? You guys walked
Speaker 1: into that Vegas hotel room and I was like, that
Speaker 1: looks exactly like a hotel room in Vegas. Set Deck
Speaker 1: nailed it. Like they nailed it.
Speaker 2: I really felt like.
Speaker 1: We were there and I loved it. I want to
Speaker 1: give them. I want to give them credit where credit
Speaker 1: is due. They really killed it.
Speaker 3: Wait, but how did Peyton and Lucas get to Lam?
Speaker 3: Did they drive? And we did I miss a scene
Speaker 3: of them driving in the car?
Speaker 5: Did they They got a rental car and then they
Speaker 5: were in the car.
Speaker 1: And actually, one of my favorite moments in the whole
Speaker 1: episode is that it cuts from like a creepy moment
Speaker 1: with Nanny Carey and Dan, but you hear Peyton laughing
Speaker 1: and Lucas while they're driving to La and Lucas says,
Speaker 1: I missed that laugh, and she says me too, And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh that, I know that feeling, like
Speaker 1: when you hear yourself get your joy back and you go,
Speaker 1: oh my god. I had that experience here in the
Speaker 1: city the other night at dinner with friends and I
Speaker 1: we were cackling, and when I tell you, I heard
Speaker 1: my own laugh before I realized it was coming out
Speaker 1: of my mouth. And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that feels nice. Like that feels nice, and it really,
Speaker 1: it really made me feel emotional to see that like
Speaker 1: represented for you. And after all the Peyton's been through
Speaker 1: and all the sadness and the up and downs with
Speaker 1: this relationship and like the book throwing and the torture
Speaker 1: with her and Lucas, to have not only him acknowledge
Speaker 1: her joy, but for her to say I missed this
Speaker 1: version of myself. That made me very emotional.
Speaker 5: I mean that's what the episode's about, though, right because
Speaker 5: Haley says the same thing. Haley's like, I nailed it
Speaker 5: in the studio and Nathan says, bitness, grizzy, I'm no
Speaker 5: ed it.
Speaker 6: On the Cord.
Speaker 1: You know everyone, Yeah, yeah, everybody's.
Speaker 5: Getting their sense of self back, and You're right, that does.
Speaker 5: It catches us by surprise, and it's what those are,
Speaker 5: the moments that like, you really remember yourself. And I'm
Speaker 5: glad all the kids are getting to have these little
Speaker 5: these bursts of glory.
Speaker 3: Brook's definitely getting her sense of self back. I mean,
Speaker 3: with Victoria coming in, I feel like this is the
Speaker 3: first time I've seen Brooke stand up to Victoria in
Speaker 3: a way that feels real, like woman to woman and
Speaker 3: not like a little girl yelling at her mom. Felt
Speaker 3: much more like, listen, I'm actually not going to do
Speaker 3: this with you. This is my company.
Speaker 1: It isn't lost on me. Like the ways that everyone
Speaker 1: is finding themselves, like, it's really special that in their healthy,
Speaker 1: long relationship Nathan and Haley, I wrote it down that
Speaker 1: they're each getting back to themselves individually and it's making
Speaker 1: their marriage healthier. And then you've got Peyton and Lucas
Speaker 1: getting back to the core of everything that's always been
Speaker 1: good about them and they get to be more themselves
Speaker 1: because they're together. And Brooke has really been on this
Speaker 1: journey to find herself without anyone else defining her without
Speaker 1: a romantic partner, now potentially without a business partner, like
Speaker 1: really truly finally being able to say no, this is
Speaker 1: for me and it's let me tell you it hits
Speaker 1: like I get it and I love I love that
Speaker 1: we're getting these versions essentially of us, the three of us,
Speaker 1: of three women in different ways, each really clicking into
Speaker 1: the core of who they are. Even though their journeys
Speaker 1: are different. The similarity is like the results and it
Speaker 1: feels very cool.
Speaker 5: Your comedy in the midst of the chaos with Victoria,
Speaker 5: Like you had to cry a lot in all episode,
Speaker 5: and that's not fun, but you made it look pretty
Speaker 5: and you.
Speaker 1: Made it look really like good.
Speaker 5: But also you're not doing like the Peyton cry thing
Speaker 5: where you're just sad. You're also like being real funny
Speaker 5: first or later we're in the midst of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot. You're hitting all the emotional I
Speaker 3: love that Brooke does that. It's a little emotional rollercoaster
Speaker 3: for her, but she so authentically dropped into her body
Speaker 3: at all times, like one hundred percent whatever she's feeling,
Speaker 3: it's just what's on her sleeve, which is so fun
Speaker 3: to watch. And also looked amazing, your make up, your
Speaker 3: hair looked great. Your that blue silk shirt with the
Speaker 3: roses eye. I loved the outside for so good.
Speaker 1: I loved it, and that my creepy bob was finally
Speaker 1: starting to grow out and hit like a length that
Speaker 1: was better for my face.
Speaker 11: Y'all.
Speaker 5: We're talking about it while we watched the episode. It's like, oh,
Speaker 5: oh better, hair, better, oh better? We got our summer break.
Speaker 5: Do we still find that your biological clock is like
Speaker 5: a school year because we went pretty much straight from
Speaker 5: like graduating high school yes, to doing this show where
Speaker 5: we shot September through May, and my biological clock is like, well,
Speaker 5: it's September.
Speaker 2: We went to work in July.
Speaker 1: And when people ask me, like, what year was, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It was season six, yeah, which by
Speaker 1: the way, spans over two calendar years. So anytime anybody
Speaker 1: asks me a question about linear time, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: can't answer that. I'm so sorry. I spent the first
Speaker 1: thirty years of my life on a school calendar. I
Speaker 1: don't know what year anything has ever happened yet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can go buy haircuts and colors. Really.
Speaker 5: When Brooke was on the phone with Victoria. And then
Speaker 5: and Victory's being so rude, and there's this thing that
Speaker 5: she says, right when she comes into Brooks apartment. She says,
Speaker 5: I don't know why you've been such a snot, and
Speaker 5: that kind of maternal gas lighting where it's like, I've
Speaker 5: told you what's wrong. I've told you what's wrong. I've
Speaker 5: told you what's wrong. And when you come to me
Speaker 5: and say I don't know why you're upset with me, Oh,
Speaker 5: that is one more assault because it means that all
Speaker 5: the energy and work I put into telling.
Speaker 3: You and trying to communicate in a mature way.
Speaker 5: I worked myself up to be brave enough to tell
Speaker 5: you all the things that hurt, and you said.
Speaker 1: I don't hear any of it.
Speaker 5: He didn't register. Yeah, well sorry Victoria. And then you
Speaker 5: call her a botox vampire.
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 2: And Frank and Mom Frank and Mom.
Speaker 1: Botox vampires. I was like, Oh, that's where it comes from.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 5: They got like an insult generator, or they hired somebody.
Speaker 5: I like, I got another one.
Speaker 1: It was just so good. And it is interesting what
Speaker 1: you're saying, hell, because when somebody when you work on
Speaker 1: a relationship, with someone.
Speaker 3: Tire, I think you are yeah for years and then
Speaker 3: they say, I don't know.
Speaker 1: This is the first I've ever heard that you're upset.
Speaker 1: It makes you feel crazy, it does. It makes you
Speaker 1: feel like an insane person. And I think what was
Speaker 1: really interesting for me about this dynamic with her was
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, ask people questions about what it
Speaker 1: would be like to have a toxic maternal relationship and interestingly, like,
Speaker 1: and I hope she doesn't mind me talking a little
Speaker 1: bit about this, but going through the Victoria storyline really
Speaker 1: made in my own family. My mom really revealed some
Speaker 1: things to me about how she grew up and when
Speaker 1: her parents split up. There really did become a dynamic
Speaker 1: with my mom and my grandmother where my grandmother was
Speaker 1: really jealous of my mom and like put her through
Speaker 1: a lot of shit in her teenage years. And I
Speaker 1: remember this time in my life talking about how weird
Speaker 1: it was to try to have this horrible maternal dynamic
Speaker 1: because I didn't grow up like that, and my mom
Speaker 1: sharing some shit with me that I just was like,
Speaker 1: I remember the shock at I don't know what were
Speaker 1: we twenty five twenty six at the time, looking at
Speaker 1: my mom who like, duh, I know, my mom's a person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was the first time that I went, oh,
Speaker 1: my god, like, you're not this sort of omniscient parent.
Speaker 1: You're not just this grown up You're You're a girl
Speaker 1: who's been through shit, and like you went through that
Speaker 1: with your own mom. It was this really wild sort
Speaker 1: of experience. And I think because my mom and I
Speaker 1: are close and Daphne and I were so close in
Speaker 1: a way, this sort of accidental revelation that the brook
Speaker 1: in Victoria storyline caused for me and my own mother,
Speaker 1: like it changed my relationship with my mom in this
Speaker 1: incredible way. And so it's funny when fans are like, god,
Speaker 1: you know, you always play these characters or these toxic
Speaker 1: maternal relationships. I'm like, interesting thing about acting a toxic
Speaker 1: maternal relationship is like, can you gorgeous things for your
Speaker 1: own family? Everybody does therapy, Yeah, but like I had
Speaker 1: like a visceral memory of that, maybe because I just
Speaker 1: went on that trip with my parents, but it was
Speaker 1: like really surreal to be like, man, I remember, I
Speaker 1: remember how this deepened my relationship in my own family.
Speaker 3: It's just like a part of growing up. Yeah, people
Speaker 3: are more complicated than the boxes we put them in
Speaker 3: when we're young, because we love to compartmentalize things and
Speaker 3: you know, assign roles. And I felt that way in
Speaker 3: my own family too, and having those moments with my mom.
Speaker 3: And it's actually interesting to think about the Victoria storyline
Speaker 3: that way and think of where did she come from?
Speaker 3: Who who is her mother? Like what happened with her?
Speaker 5: Do we ever see a Brook grandma in any of
Speaker 5: the weddings or anything interesting? It's Glenn Close. It's like
Speaker 5: Eula Deville.
Speaker 1: Oh you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Good?
Speaker 1: Yes, well not to you know, be too revealing. But
Speaker 1: when we were talking about some of the dynamics of
Speaker 1: things we witnessed in Wilmington as young people, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: that culture of certain families putting their young daughters kind
Speaker 1: of out for these off right Yeah. Like I wonder
Speaker 1: if that was a bit of the dynamic for Victoria,
Speaker 1: Like did she grow up in a space where her
Speaker 1: household told her that her only worth was to bag
Speaker 1: like a successful husband.
Speaker 5: Oh dude, that was the narrative when I was growing up.
Speaker 5: You went to college to get your mrs. Oh, Like
Speaker 5: I was like oldest of my friends. That wasn't married
Speaker 5: because everyone else just got married right out of college.
Speaker 5: And I hope that's not still a prevalent thing. But
Speaker 5: that kind of culture where it's like, oh, man, she's eighteen,
Speaker 5: she should either get married or go to school to
Speaker 5: get married was kind of normal, and like, if you
Speaker 5: had bagged a dude by the time you were eighteen,
Speaker 5: there was no reason to go into debt with school.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that takes my breath away.
Speaker 11: Dude.
Speaker 5: When I got dropped off at college, I was going
Speaker 5: to a really great school that was attached to a
Speaker 5: law school, and I remember like going on the orientation
Speaker 5: tour with my parents and being told like, well, hang
Speaker 5: out where the law school kids hang out, and you
Speaker 5: can find a husband there. And I was like, or
Speaker 5: I could just be the lawyer.
Speaker 3: But it's.
Speaker 11: Yeah, totally fine. It's a culture thing, and it is
Speaker 11: hopefully that tide has turned. I didn't marry a lawyer,
Speaker 11: you guys, you sure did not.
Speaker 3: We got an invitation now that we're down here in
Speaker 3: the South. We got an invitation for Maria to join Katillian.
Speaker 3: You know. It comes in the mail in a nice
Speaker 3: envelope and all the little RSVP things, and it's beautiful
Speaker 3: gold lettering and all the nice reading through this invitation.
Speaker 2: Maria's like, ooh, what's that. I said, Oh, it's Katillian.
Speaker 3: And she was like what you know, we were watching
Speaker 3: Gilmore Girls, so she's been oh yeah, and she's like, mom,
Speaker 3: if you make me go to that, I will get
Speaker 3: kicked out.
Speaker 5: I will.
Speaker 3: I will get myself kicked out.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love her.
Speaker 1: I love that kid. Y, don't worry.
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not. I'm not putting you on the market.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of great things that come
Speaker 3: from Junior League.
Speaker 5: There's all kinds of pretty dressed to others. You know,
Speaker 5: you know, there are plenty of reasons to wear a
Speaker 5: dress in those world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Ashley Ricards wants to wear a dress. She
Speaker 3: tries to steal one store. And I'm so super excited
Speaker 3: to see her showing up on screen because she's a
Speaker 3: meaty storyline coming up and really great actors.
Speaker 1: I know, it's so fun and and it reminded me
Speaker 1: when she came on. I was like, wait a second,
Speaker 1: when does Brook get beat up? I can't believe it
Speaker 1: was at the end of the first episode, but you know,
Speaker 1: the dynamic Ashley Recards coming in this is when we
Speaker 1: get Evan Peters of American horror story fame, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's the dynamic of these two kids and then
Speaker 1: Xavier the whole sort of weird, toxic I I really
Speaker 1: did of all the things I had visceral memories about
Speaker 1: in this episode, some of it was a surprise. I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, what's happening now? Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the upside down when like, really Peyton's super
Speaker 5: happy and Brooke is dealing with like you basically have
Speaker 5: your own Ellie situation right now, where you're like.
Speaker 2: I don't have a mother, lay me aloud, yeah.
Speaker 5: And then you get beat up by some dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well yeah, they they sort of are just giving
Speaker 1: me like Ellie and psychoederic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do we do with Brooke?
Speaker 5: Can we just read it like it worked.
Speaker 1: Really well last time?
Speaker 5: Let's hit her, dude, But hey, here's the deal. That
Speaker 5: kind of shrugs me, because I do feel like that
Speaker 5: was a punchline they knew would always work. It was like,
Speaker 5: we don't really know what we should do with this girl.
Speaker 2: I know, let's hit her.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's kind of dark, and you know what I
Speaker 1: will say was I remembered as it was happening, I
Speaker 1: had the shock of like, oh, that's the end of
Speaker 1: the first episode that she gets attacked. I remember the
Speaker 1: amount of effort because there was so much clamoring about
Speaker 1: what was going to happen because of the three way
Speaker 1: phone call at the end of season five, people were
Speaker 1: out in the streets every day trying to figure out
Speaker 1: who Lucas picked. And they tented close over Bros that
Speaker 1: night to shoot the assault because they didn't want anyone
Speaker 1: to know Brooke was getting assaulted. But then when we
Speaker 1: did the turnaround and he comes in and pushes me
Speaker 1: over the display and I hit the ground, and all
Speaker 1: those angles are looking out at the street. They had
Speaker 1: taken the tents down and there were like two hundred
Speaker 1: people outside, so everybody saw it.
Speaker 2: So the whole internet was like, oh my god, Brooke
Speaker 2: got attacked.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, guys, why didn't we lock
Speaker 1: up the street and make sure people couldn't be out
Speaker 1: there watching? Like you made the crew ten the whole store,
Speaker 1: and then you just took it down for the reverse
Speaker 1: and everything.
Speaker 3: I really took an extra like, oh god, it was
Speaker 3: so silly.
Speaker 1: I was like, this was not well planned. You know
Speaker 1: what I did think was very well planned. And we've
Speaker 1: talked about this before that Jackson showing up last year,
Speaker 1: like having a kid on set opened up this whole beautiful,
Speaker 1: like new room of experiences. And because Jackson loved all
Speaker 1: the music we were all listening to and we would like,
Speaker 1: you know, take him out, and he always wanted to
Speaker 1: dance in the hair and makeup trailer them putting Jamie
Speaker 1: learning to dance from Quentin in this episode, like oh
Speaker 1: and when we get to the end and he's teaching you,
Speaker 1: joy I was like, I'm unwell, like my ovaries hurt.
Speaker 1: This is so precious. Sides are melting, like Robbie teaching
Speaker 1: Jackson a dance and then Jackson teaching you and it
Speaker 1: being this sort of through line. Everyone's just there's something
Speaker 1: about like all the basketball storyline stuff feels like season one,
Speaker 1: like it's healthy and sweet and nostalgic and everyone is
Speaker 1: so happy and oh man, that really that brought me
Speaker 1: a lot of joy.
Speaker 3: I love seeing Quentin integrate himself into the team more
Speaker 3: like this, like really his ego is starting to die
Speaker 3: down and yeah, he's come such a long wave. And
Speaker 3: from when we first met him when he was so
Speaker 3: angry and above everyone else. To see him not just
Speaker 3: integrate with the team, but coming down onto the level
Speaker 3: of a young person and really getting in with Jackson
Speaker 3: and Jamie and spending time and investing in him, it's
Speaker 3: just so great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we have to talk about the song change though,
Speaker 5: you guys, because I was sitting here the whole time
Speaker 5: watching it, Like I thought it was a Superman's song.
Speaker 3: I was like, which got familiar.
Speaker 5: I also don't know the words too, so if you
Speaker 5: had to clear it up for me, you guys, it's gross.
Speaker 1: Well, that song had come out whatever year this was
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, I guess, and they were playing
Speaker 1: it a lot, like all the boys playing basketball, and
Speaker 1: Jackson loved it. And I remember one of James's charity
Speaker 1: games it was on and Jackson was like doing the
Speaker 1: dance and whatever, and so I think they wanted to
Speaker 1: put it in the episode. And then I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: Antoine was like, do y'all know what those lyrics mean?
Speaker 1: Like do you know what Superman?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 5: Me?
Speaker 3: Definitely, Antiine.
Speaker 1: And then he told everyone and they were like, we
Speaker 1: will be changing the song in the episode. We cannot
Speaker 1: have a five year old dancing to a song about
Speaker 1: ejaculate Like this is not appropriate. I don't really want
Speaker 1: to say any more about it. So if you want
Speaker 1: to know what the song is about friends at home,
Speaker 1: please look it up and gonna make it up. We're
Speaker 1: going to change the subject.
Speaker 3: God we change. Thank God that song got change. But
Speaker 3: it was fun to see them dancing. I liked seeing it.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: It was nice to sort of set up too that
Speaker 3: Nathan and Haley were going to take a little back
Speaker 3: seat for a while so we could focus on all
Speaker 3: these other storylines because we know that they're good like it.
Speaker 3: Just it was nice to just see, Hey, you know
Speaker 3: what they've been through. It's all good that we've worked
Speaker 3: through everything with them. Right now we're going to take
Speaker 3: a break, yeah, regularly scheduled drama with these two and
Speaker 3: let them enjoy their life a little bit. And I
Speaker 3: loved seeing them just enjoying their time as a family together, just.
Speaker 1: Being safe, Yeah, feeling safe, having humor, Like even how powerful.
Speaker 1: Think about how short a scene it was between Quentin
Speaker 1: and Nathan when they're you know, shooting at the end
Speaker 1: and he says, I'm taking it easy on you because
Speaker 1: you're back and he's like, yeah, my back's fine. It's
Speaker 1: so quick. But you see the work, you see the mentorship,
Speaker 1: and like when our writers really nail how to communicate
Speaker 1: a journey, whether a scene was long for some characters
Speaker 1: that needed it, or a scene was very short. Like
Speaker 1: the flow of the episode worked so well, and it
Speaker 1: was nice to see Nathan and Haley progressing through the
Speaker 1: episode and then getting these moments of unexpected humor, like
Speaker 1: watching James and Barbara do that scene where she's topless
Speaker 1: in the pool.
Speaker 3: It was so funny.
Speaker 1: They were so funny. And then you coming in Joy
Speaker 1: and cracking a joke about naked Nanny's in the pool,
Speaker 1: Like I did not expect Haley to make that joke
Speaker 1: and I loved it, and you could tell that he
Speaker 1: loved it, and like it was just, Yeah, everything feels
Speaker 1: very secure with you guys, and it's refreshing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we need a secure place because everything else
Speaker 3: has been so volatile, including Dan we're going to go to.
Speaker 5: I can't believe Carrie hit Dan before before we go
Speaker 5: to Dan. I just have to say that the basketball banter.
Speaker 5: I love bench talk when the boys are like talking
Speaker 5: in the midst.
Speaker 1: Of action and.
Speaker 5: Skills asking me if his mom seemed satisfied. Satisfied I
Speaker 5: goes down in O th h history one of the
Speaker 5: bulls er just But it's to Antoine's credit. All of
Speaker 5: the stuff that he's having to talk about could come
Speaker 5: off as like creepy and like I don't know, just
Speaker 5: like macho dude stuff, and instead he asks these questions
Speaker 5: with so much like earnest curiosity, like.
Speaker 3: It yeah, kind of insecurity.
Speaker 5: Yes, he cares what this woman thinks about him. And
Speaker 5: you know, he didn't have a relationship with her growing
Speaker 5: up because by the time he joined the basketball team,
Speaker 5: Nathan wasn't even living at home anymore. It's not like
Speaker 5: she's a mom that he knew. She's just like a
Speaker 5: brand new person to him pretty much. And their dynamic
Speaker 5: is so cute, and I love that that Barbara and
Speaker 5: Antoine love it as much as Skills and deb loved it.
Speaker 5: The behind the scenes makes it so much more fun
Speaker 5: to watch because they had the best time ever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they really did. It's true. I loved that Any
Speaker 3: day that the two of those guys are on set,
Speaker 3: they just had so much fun together. It was a
Speaker 3: really well matched personality combo on screen. And off screen
Speaker 3: nailed it.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean to go from Dan Scott to the
Speaker 5: clown at the birthday party to Skills is quite a
Speaker 5: trajectory for Deb.
Speaker 3: I wish it had lasted, because honestly, there's a world
Speaker 3: where I see Deb and Skills just being like, you
Speaker 3: know what, this actually really works for us? Perfect, Yes,
Speaker 3: let's just do it.
Speaker 1: Let's go on.
Speaker 3: Nathan would have been calling Skills daddy daddy. I don't
Speaker 3: think he ever would have actually been calling him daddy.
Speaker 5: All right, Dan, Dan Dan, I interrupted the Dan.
Speaker 1: Of it all.
Speaker 5: But hi, yeah, yeah, yah, yeah, daddy misery. Oh this
Speaker 5: was so Kathy baits.
Speaker 1: I was just about to say, Tory is doing the
Speaker 1: most incredible job that is insane material, and yeah, she
Speaker 1: is just giving Kathy baits. It's so fun to watch her.
Speaker 3: I gotta say, though, Look this girl is so psycho
Speaker 3: and the best thing she can come up with is
Speaker 3: a hot fork.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was weird, like.
Speaker 5: How utensils are bad news.
Speaker 2: But she's she's like I was at a hospital.
Speaker 3: She's just since she has scalpels and teeth.
Speaker 2: But she's not. She's in her house.
Speaker 3: No, but I mean that she stole him from a hospital.
Speaker 1: What I will say I liked about it is I
Speaker 1: thought this is fucking weird. It does give you a
Speaker 1: clue that this hospital is not what we think it is,
Speaker 1: because at this point we don't know that they're in
Speaker 1: her house.
Speaker 2: And if that's where.
Speaker 1: She's starting, I'm like, where is she gonna go?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because all the jamming of the needles was really.
Speaker 5: Next was down Nanny Needle.
Speaker 1: That's my nickname for Nanny Needle.
Speaker 5: She was just like so needle crazy in this episode.
Speaker 1: And if you're someone like me that hates.
Speaker 5: Needles, I just was like, all right, well it's time
Speaker 5: to look at my phone.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna have.
Speaker 5: To do some other Well she turns this out.
Speaker 1: Oh I did not like that at all.
Speaker 5: No, My favorite part was her sham and the needle
Speaker 5: into his arm. It should have gone through his arm
Speaker 5: with how hard she jabbed it in, and then she
Speaker 5: does this little like wiggle when she fixes her skirt.
Speaker 5: The fixing of the skirt was such a nice little
Speaker 5: punctuation to the scene. And I like that Tory Pepper's
Speaker 5: her performance with those kinds of details, because while Nanny
Speaker 5: Carey is a psycho, she's also kind of proper about.
Speaker 3: She's very put together, she's playing her part. She doesn't
Speaker 3: get anything out of place. Yeah, so interesting Dan. It's
Speaker 3: delicious because we all want to see Dan Zuffer and
Speaker 3: yet also it's so painful to watch Dan Zuffer.
Speaker 1: It is really interesting that the character who is essentially
Speaker 1: the most hated on our show becomes someone you want
Speaker 1: to root for because she's even worse like that. That
Speaker 1: required well, I mean, she's a psychopath who kidnapped a child, but.
Speaker 2: She didn't kill her brother.
Speaker 1: She did kill her dad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was taking care of daddy, and you know,
Speaker 5: he did end up dying.
Speaker 2: But whatever.
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, maybe these two really just deserve
Speaker 1: each other. Wouldn't it have been funny if in another
Speaker 1: world they fell in love while he was in that bed? Guys?
Speaker 5: I thought that's what was gonna happen. When really filming
Speaker 5: all this, I for sure like thought Stockholm syndrome like
Speaker 5: gonna end up Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would have been interesting. Actually, I think that
Speaker 3: if they had taken more time with that, it could
Speaker 3: have been really interesting to see that happen.
Speaker 2: Loved it.
Speaker 5: Nanny Needle is totally my vibe. I loved the mouth
Speaker 5: and Millie stuff. Oh, like, yes, all the wholesomeness in
Speaker 5: this episode mixed with the crazy violence is giving me
Speaker 5: a little bit of whiplash. But I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 2: But weirdly it worked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they just send it all up.
Speaker 1: I can't believe how much we fit in the episode.
Speaker 1: And weirdly everything worked, and even some of the little
Speaker 1: through lines of humor, like joy you had it and
Speaker 1: had it. You both said you got chills when me
Speaker 1: and Milly said Victoria to you, like little callbacks of
Speaker 1: the jokes, and yeah, it's wild how much color was
Speaker 1: in this.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I wanted Milly to stay with me, and I
Speaker 1: also wanted her to go. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, I remember, I mean just honestly,
Speaker 1: I loved Lisa so much. I remember when we shot
Speaker 1: that scene where I tell her she's fired, and like
Speaker 1: neither of us could stop crying.
Speaker 5: Did we really think that like we were losing Lee
Speaker 5: and Lisa.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I knew because Mikayla had started working
Speaker 1: on SVU, she had been hired as Familiar. We were
Speaker 1: so pumped for her because obviously we all love that show,
Speaker 1: and that was also like the era of Larne Order
Speaker 1: rest of You.
Speaker 5: So I used to make up lyrics to the theme
Speaker 5: song because it doesn't have lyrics, and we used to
Speaker 5: just like, yeah, we were just made up different lyrics
Speaker 5: while we were waiting to shoot our seats.
Speaker 1: I gotta love it. So I know that we knew
Speaker 1: we'd lost her, you know, to this regular job on NBC.
Speaker 1: But I don't remember what was going on with Lisa
Speaker 1: and Lee if.
Speaker 3: Everything was always so insecure with our jobs, always even
Speaker 3: this far into the show, and knowing they're bringing new
Speaker 3: characters on and knowing at some point Paul went from
Speaker 3: being a series regular to being recurring because of the budget,
Speaker 3: and I think, yeah, we probably just had no idea
Speaker 3: what was going to happen. Plus Lee. That might have
Speaker 3: been around the same time he was going off to
Speaker 3: shoot Zodiac. You remember exactly when, but you know that
Speaker 3: might have been part of that too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they needed to get him out for a
Speaker 1: couple of years.
Speaker 3: That could have been in. But I did love them.
Speaker 1: I loved them, and I just loved the nostalgia of it.
Speaker 1: I loved seeing how sweet they were sort of prepping
Speaker 1: for this future, and I loved that they're prepping for
Speaker 1: their future. Let Mouth and Brook be so nostalgic about
Speaker 1: their past. Ye, him coming in with that boy Toy fire,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh god, here we go.
Speaker 5: Lo, I have his boy Toy trading card. You do?
Speaker 5: He was Peyton's date. Get him in the Uh what
Speaker 5: was it? Remember like the game that we played for
Speaker 5: boy Toy When did we do the boy draft and
Speaker 5: Peyton called Mouth? Peyton was like, I want Mouth and
Speaker 5: then we wrote go.
Speaker 3: It was a different thing, but yeah.
Speaker 1: That was on that that partner game night where like
Speaker 1: Brooke was with Felix and Peyton was with Mouth. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but I took him from the Boy Toy auction and
Speaker 1: you know, we went in the limo and we went
Speaker 1: to the strip club and we did all that as well.
Speaker 1: You know, I still think we would have been great.
Speaker 1: But yeah. The other thing that made me sob in
Speaker 1: this episode was Goodbye Scarecrow. I was like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: it's happening again. I'm crying again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because that's I felt for Brook in that moment,
Speaker 5: because there's no worse feeling than like, think everything's going
Speaker 5: to be good again. She's made this huge move from
Speaker 5: New York City back home. Everything's finally good with all
Speaker 5: her friends. Her environment is like stable. She's building there
Speaker 5: and then the people she came down there for are leaving,
Speaker 5: and it just feels a little like w and she's
Speaker 5: trying so hard to be brave about it. I have
Speaker 5: to leave to go get my son, but I just
Speaker 5: want to say. My honorable mention is Lucas telling Peyton,
Speaker 5: I want to be selfish with you.
Speaker 2: Yes, I wrote that down too.
Speaker 5: I have carried that with me when I met Jeffrey,
Speaker 5: and I was like, I'm not going to introduce you
Speaker 5: to anyone. I'm not introducing you to my parents or
Speaker 5: my brothers or any of my friends. I am just
Speaker 5: making this decision for me. And it feels so good
Speaker 5: to be selfish for the first time in my life.
Speaker 5: And so when I heard that, it just like set
Speaker 5: off all the bells and whistles and I was like, yes.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, I agree. That's also my honorable mention.
Speaker 1: I loved it.
Speaker 2: I'm off to the middle school, Middle.
Speaker 3: Earth, Goodbye. I had a random memory, So, okay, when
Speaker 3: you first see Haley and Jamie jumps up into my
Speaker 3: arms and I'm like swinging him back and forth and talking. Yeah,
Speaker 3: when you're in that cub we did. That was because
Speaker 3: we ran out of time during the day. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: ran out of time during the day and we didn't
Speaker 3: have time for his coverage, so we were they were
Speaker 3: trying to figure out, like how are we going to
Speaker 3: do this? And I was like, hang on, hang on, kid,
Speaker 3: jump up. So because they were over my shoulder on
Speaker 3: him and they were like, what how are we gonna
Speaker 3: I was like, can I solve this problem for you? Please?
Speaker 3: He jumps up in my arms and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna say my line when I face the camera, and
Speaker 3: then I'm gonna twist and you're gonna say your line,
Speaker 3: and then I'm gonna twist again and say my line.
Speaker 3: So that's why I'm hugging him and swaying back, swinging
Speaker 3: ever love. It's just so weird the memories that pop up.
Speaker 3: But also I just think that's interesting for people at
Speaker 3: home who have no idea how this stuff gets shot
Speaker 3: and why you see Sometimes you see something that you
Speaker 3: think is totally normal, just acting movement, but it's actually
Speaker 3: running out of time during the day totally.
Speaker 1: I mean, remember Joy, like you were saying earlier about
Speaker 1: when we all started directing, Like remember the times where
Speaker 1: we would just look at each other and be like,
Speaker 1: I just need you to do this for the shot.
Speaker 1: We're running out of time, and like suddenly we were like,
Speaker 1: oh now we really understand what the directors are up
Speaker 1: against sometimes and how refreshing it is when someone will
Speaker 1: look at you and be like, we just need this
Speaker 1: for camera. I don't actually if you can do whatever
Speaker 1: you want that feels good in any other moment, but
Speaker 1: in this moment so I can get from this scene
Speaker 1: to this scene, I need a transition and I just
Speaker 1: need you to walk here, and you're like, oh cool.
Speaker 1: I love knowing the technical stuff.
Speaker 3: It's so easy. I love that so much because we
Speaker 3: get treated with kid gloves so much as actors, and
Speaker 3: it's amazing. I have seen so many directors come up
Speaker 3: and do just gymnastic trying to justify a shot or
Speaker 3: some kind of something, and I'm like, I really, you know,
Speaker 3: I'll go there because I'm like, if we're going to
Speaker 3: have a conversation about this character and their reasons behind
Speaker 3: what they're doing, yes, let's talk about it. But if
Speaker 3: it's just like you just need this shot for camera,
Speaker 3: like I'm a big girl, just tell me so much
Speaker 3: you need well.
Speaker 1: And what I like about it, you know, it's some
Speaker 1: of what we're talking about, even in the material of
Speaker 1: this episode is like this is big, fundamental life stuff
Speaker 1: we're talking about. And you're you're doing good scenes, You're
Speaker 1: making good TV. Like the technical side you know, of
Speaker 1: the directing or the camera work is yeah, you're making art.
Speaker 1: Like you're building a chair. And the chair could be
Speaker 1: like an arm Jacobsen like will be famous for eighty
Speaker 1: years egg chair, but like it also has to just
Speaker 1: hold a human in it, you know, like it's art,
Speaker 1: but it's a chair.
Speaker 2: Like that's kind of it.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I have character motivation and like, also,
Speaker 1: where do you need my face for.
Speaker 3: The But just tell me, just tell me. I know, well,
Speaker 3: I don't. I guess my honorable mention. It was such
Speaker 3: a fun episode. I really loved that opening. I guess,
Speaker 3: you know, I think maybe Stuart's going to get my
Speaker 3: honorable mention just as the director. He really got He
Speaker 3: really showed up and made something beautiful. It would have
Speaker 3: been easy to make it choppy and and weird, but
Speaker 3: the script was good. But I think that his abilities
Speaker 3: to make everything feel very fluid and follow the music
Speaker 3: in a way. The music of the movement in our
Speaker 3: storylines made it great.
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Speaker 3: Now, we have a question from Lexi before we go,
Speaker 3: you guys, She says, if you were in Nathan's shoes
Speaker 3: with your parent dating your really close friend. I know
Speaker 3: people that this has happened with, how do you think
Speaker 3: you would react to the news.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: I'm so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: So you have friends who this has happened to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, where their parent has dated someone who's like
Speaker 3: their friend. It's usually the dad dating. That's what I
Speaker 3: was going to say, And then you're kind of like,
Speaker 3: what is this weird friendship? I don't know, this is
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, in some circumstances it's worked.
Speaker 3: I've heard of that once. I can think of a
Speaker 3: specific couple.
Speaker 1: You're like, one time on Earth it's worked and it
Speaker 1: was great. Yeah, ii ya yai.
Speaker 3: I would stop hanging out with my friend.
Speaker 2: Is that a horrible thing to say?
Speaker 3: I just don't know that I would be able to.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'd be like, ah, I want us
Speaker 2: to all hang out.
Speaker 3: And go to dinner. It might take me a minute.
Speaker 3: Eventually I'd come around if it was a real thing,
Speaker 3: Like if they really were falling in love and it
Speaker 3: was for real, Yeah, okay, great, but it would be
Speaker 3: really weird at the beginning. What would you do? I
Speaker 3: really don't know.
Speaker 1: It makes me feel uncomfortable, but again, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know who any of us are to judge
Speaker 1: anyone else's joy. I think let people give it a shot, like,
Speaker 1: let them jump in and see. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: we've all been in situations where we've watched people we
Speaker 1: love do and been like, I hope it works, but
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not gonna I'll be around whenever
Speaker 1: you decide you want to talk about it.
Speaker 3: You know, I just had that conversation with a friend
Speaker 3: this morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, like we.
Speaker 1: Both just like we've been on both ends of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just like when you talk about your baggage kind
Speaker 1: of needing to match, Like, what would someone my dad's
Speaker 1: age have to say to you at your age.
Speaker 3: So I'm saying, yeah, come on, I think it would
Speaker 3: be an extraordinary circumstance where two people such an age
Speaker 3: difference would really be compatible. So yeah, it's like, I
Speaker 3: don't want to I don't want to judge what's making
Speaker 3: somebody happy. But also you can sometimes you can tell,
Speaker 3: especially if you know people and it's your family and
Speaker 3: your friend, you know what someone's motivation is or what
Speaker 3: they're deal like, what's going on. I don't know, there
Speaker 3: would be a lot of conversations. There'd be a lot
Speaker 3: of conversations. Oh boy, wow, thanks Lexie. What a strange
Speaker 3: thing to think about it. I don't ever want to think
Speaker 3: about that again.
Speaker 1: Sorry, Lexi. She's like Jesus, I didn't know we were
Speaker 1: going to go to therapy today.
Speaker 2: Oh, should we spend.
Speaker 1: A real let's spend a wheel.
Speaker 2: Oh that's cute. Go ahead.
Speaker 1: So is most likely to appear on a kiss cam
Speaker 1: at a sporting event. I love that.
Speaker 3: I mean I feel like it's definitely brooken whatever cutie
Speaker 3: she's dating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely, I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean probably you too, Like I'm sure you're
Speaker 3: whatever cutie is up your up your alley go to
Speaker 3: a Lakers game and there're canna be all over you.
Speaker 1: Honestly, yes, like everyone knows. I love nothing more than
Speaker 1: live sports, and like now is the you know, one
Speaker 1: of the ownership group members of a soccer team, Like
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't wait to be on a
Speaker 1: QTE date and like make out it a game?
Speaker 2: Bye?
Speaker 3: Do you guys do kiss cams?
Speaker 1: I mean no, we do like cute fan cam stuff,
Speaker 1: but we could.
Speaker 2: I'll make a suggestion. I know I know a gal Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know where you can make that happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh I think I kiss cam is cutie? Okay,
Speaker 1: next week. I still can't believe we're in season six.
Speaker 1: Why is this so shocking to me? Like it's just linear.
Speaker 1: But next week is season six, episode two, one million,
Speaker 1: billionth of a million a second on a Sunday morning. Okay,
Speaker 1: these titles are getting wild.
Speaker 3: I wonder what's gonna happen. At least we'll start to
Speaker 3: get some of this wrapped up.
Speaker 5: Uh.
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Speaker 1: See you next week. See you have a good one.
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