1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: the Weekly Zeitgeist. Please welcome the hilarious and town tick 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: Courtney Costa a Kay. I did not prepare a song 7 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: that is fun. Have you heard that TikTok cover of 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: Tom's Diner where the dude comes in and makes it 9 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: all about himself? Oh my, hold on, hold on, I'm 10 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 1: gonna like, I feel like any millennial if they haven't 11 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: heard it, has to hear it just to see how 12 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: far we've come astray. I do feel like our two 13 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: choices of a ks could have been on the radio, 14 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: like back to back in the late eighties. I was 15 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 1: surprised you guys don't have to pay licensing fees. Yeah, 16 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's well, it's so a tonal that no 17 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: like modern algorithmic copyright sweeping software could ever pick it up. 18 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: Tell our intention just based on yeah, we end up 19 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: getting money in They're like, actually, it sounds like Susanne 20 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: Vega was covering you. But here, this is this this 21 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: band and in May Canter right and Giant Rooks version 22 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: of this. We can cut this out justin just so 23 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: she can hear it. Oh my goodness, what do you 24 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: think of that? Um source material? Yeah? Wow, yeah that's 25 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: I think that's all we can say is wow, according 26 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: to listen to it, I think we're cutting out the 27 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: actual song. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like most 28 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: people know just look in case people act, you know, 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: because we actually played it. But yes, that guy's that 30 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: guy's voice. You know, he's bellowing when he comes in 31 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: with mine, just us. I don't know something to think about. 32 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: I felt that. Yeah, yeah, Jim, I would like to 33 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: ask Eric guests, what is something from your search history? Uh? 34 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: My search history kind of boring lately. I just I 35 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: searched Adidas yesterday, just just the words, just what's up 36 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: with them? Yeah, just saying what they was up to? 37 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: Easter suits? Yeah, I was looking at she was looking 38 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: at up the Tan Obama. Yeah. I think mostly what 39 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm searching is closed. The weirdest thing I searched is 40 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: Geno Green Global shirt. Do you remember these shirts from 41 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: the it's like late nineties, early two thousands, all the 42 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: rappers war them. They were very oversized and there was 43 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: a bunch of number nine. It was shirts with like 44 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: every rapper in New York. Pap had like like DJ 45 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: Clay Slay yeah R and p K Slay exactly. Like 46 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: they had like an exclusive Geno Green Global gear. Yeah. 47 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 1: And I was in Seattle and I saw a five 48 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: x red leather Gino Green jacket. Wow. And I didn't 49 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: get it. But if it's probably still on the wall 50 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: at the Crossroads and Capitol Hill, go get you one. Yeah, yeah, 51 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: rocking that outfit? Did you ever get to the bottom? 52 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: First of all, we were you searching this because you 53 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: have three consecutive nine picks and you were doing some 54 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: some meme work in content mine official gear for the Wizards. 55 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: Not exactly. I was trying to figure that it actually 56 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: was why I was searching it. My little brother was like, 57 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: my little brother was talking about he put up a 58 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: tweet about our draft odds, and I was like, here's 59 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: here's us when we get the ninth pick again, and 60 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: it's a picture of Pat Boos and tj oh Man. 61 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: I missed these fashions. Put some South Bowl jeans on 62 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: and your back gear. You're Fooboo Platinum Oh my god, 63 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: what the fucking fat Albert Graphics? Come on, Calm. I 64 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: thought they were back. I thought Fubu was all the 65 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: way back when they dropped the Fat Albert graphics. Yeah, 66 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: I mean that because and look, they were chasing that 67 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: Iceberg wave because I remember at the time, Iceberg was 68 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: for people who have fucking money, you know, because like Iceberg, 69 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse button up was so much money. Then the 70 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: Foodbuo Platinum came in, like, hey, we can do it. 71 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,559 Speaker 1: We can do lovable cartoon characters too, at the lower 72 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: price point. I introduced Foodboo Platinum. Damn I had a 73 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: I had a fake Iceberg sweater with Speedy Gonzalez on it. 74 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: They I mean, who didn't have the fake Iceberg back? 75 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: I think like that was club that was like mandatory 76 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: club attire, Like you weren't you weren't doing shit if 77 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: you don't have Iceberg on at the club, That's very true. 78 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: And the number nine was was that? So I'm just 79 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: I was not what was what? Wait? What did you 80 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: go to? I mean, when you're going to when you're 81 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: in Georgetown, what did you guys go out? Did you 82 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: what was like you're going out clothing back then oh 83 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: man shirt and yeah maybe up here and a little 84 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: budon of a little quarters up with the joint underneath. 85 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: Very baggy pants, but often like Khaki's just I dressed 86 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: like ship Man, completely and totally dressed like ship was 87 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: it just like not socially functional? Yeah I was. I 88 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: was a mess right, like one of those four years, 89 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: the kind of guy who didn't have pants that could 90 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: go with nice shoes. So like, y'all put your baggy 91 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: pants over like shoes and you're like, fun, this outfit 92 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: baggy pants was like the back of the cuff like 93 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: kind of torn because yeah, I know it was the 94 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: animal all right. I was gonna ask what the number 95 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: nine was for, but I think it was just because 96 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: it looked like a lower case G. I think, so, yeah, 97 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: I think there we go. What is something you think 98 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: is overrated? Um? I mean right now, like, just don't 99 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: the entire West as a construct. I'm like, you guys, 100 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: you're you're it's everybody's like, oh my god, Like I 101 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: can't believe that this Russia thing is happening because like 102 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: we're all we're all aspiring capitalists, we all have billionaires, Like, 103 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: what's the problem this is I don't. I just I don't. 104 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't understand. It's like we're there. There's this thing 105 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: of like we're all on the same team, like how 106 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: could they and like pearl clutching, and I'm like, have 107 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: you again, have you ever? Have you ever read a 108 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: book man like figure it out? Oh yeah, now, oh god. 109 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: We a lot of us who were homeschooled to read 110 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: kind of voraciously, So that is a thing. My sil 111 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: length and I are all constantly reading history and like 112 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: listening to history podcasts, which is probably why I'm like, 113 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. They're just there's nothing, like there's nothing 114 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: we can do. We're just at this like kind of 115 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: point where it's like, yeah, we said we're kind of 116 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: all gonna like just go our own separate ways and 117 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: like let people do what they want to do, kind 118 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: of like following World War two and like all this 119 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: all this stuff that they put together in all these treaties, 120 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: and it's just like, oh, yeah, that only applies to again, 121 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: only applies to darker folks, right, the rule of law, 122 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: law in order. There's I mean, like I feel like constantly, 123 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: like as an American, you look at the coverage of 124 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: like how people are talking and you're like you're like, 125 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: y'all talking war crimes? Okay, yeah, oh god you have 126 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: you have you don't have a leg to stand on, 127 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: like we don't. We don't get to accuse people of 128 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: war crimes. Have you seen They're like, will invade the 129 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: fucking Hague if you try. It's like that's the policy, right, 130 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: that was the policy, and we're over. That's why, like 131 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: watching the news is really surreal because like I can't 132 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: believe what's going on, like what these atrocities And you're like, fun, man, 133 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: if we could only report on our own ship with 134 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: the supposed clarity that the journalists are with this conflict, 135 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: like whether it was even early on with like well 136 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: look at the people dying in this world, oh my god, 137 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: and like no one realizing yeah, no one realized how 138 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: they sound. And you're like, oh, this is why everything 139 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: is so fucked up. And then like you have our 140 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: own country being like this is an atrocity, My god, 141 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 1: look at us. Just look at them. I mean, guys, 142 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: wese are people who look like they could be your neighbor. Yeah, 143 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: they could be your cousin. That's why I stand in 144 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: solidarity with the occupied Ukrainians Palestine. I don't know what 145 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: that is. Okay, I'm time time time time time time, 146 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: some sime time time. Sorry and sorry, I'm sorry. I 147 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: totally treated that though. I was like, if you're standing 148 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: with Ukraine but not like Palistine or Yemen, go fund yourself, 149 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: Like you actually don't know anything. Yeah, like you don't, 150 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: you don't just don't. You don't get an opinion in 151 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: terms of and I get it too, like, yeah, you 152 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: can as an individual. I think that's why a lot 153 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: of people were saying, like, I can't believe that these 154 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: people are just like bringing up America's war atrocities to 155 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: cover up things like sure, there are some people who 156 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: were just doing what about is ums to kind of deflect, 157 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: but I think some people who are truly disturbed by 158 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: the lack of like consistent care empathy that goes out 159 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: from American people. That's what's really frustrating, because we're always 160 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: seeing like this cordoned off sec like sort of compartmentalized 161 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: empathy and not thinking like that's the problem is you 162 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: can look at a brown kid who's dead on the 163 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: ground and feel nothing, but you see this white child, 164 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: you know, dead on the ground and now it really 165 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: is an issue and really trying, and really you known't 166 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: take the time to confront why you don't feel one 167 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: thing when you look at one thing and you feel 168 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: something else looking at the other. That's I think what 169 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: is really the most disheartening part of like observing the 170 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: coverage and like the discourse from you know, many American 171 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: people about what's happening. I think there's also something where 172 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: they can like convince themselves that, well, it's complicated. You know, 173 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: We've I've read like all these New York Times articles 174 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: with all these facts, and like the only thing that's 175 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: complicated is you might say some ship that someone you 176 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: really care about wholeheartedly disagrees with, and you may have 177 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: to not talk to that person anymore because you actually 178 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: have a you're trying to apply a consistent definition of 179 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: what a human being is. What's something you think is 180 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: underrated overall? I think being nice is underrated, But specifically 181 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: I think being being nice to video game developers, I 182 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: think it's really underrated. I don't know why we can't 183 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: just be nice to people who make games for us. 184 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: What specific bit of outrais are you referencing today? All 185 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: of them basically I mean there there's one specifically that legit. 186 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: I basically started. Y'all played Halo Infinite. I played a 187 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: little bit of it. Yeah, okay, yo, that fan base 188 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 1: is so toxic. I had to stop playing. Man, it's 189 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: so bad. If you, I mean obviously read it. You know, 190 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: maybe just don't go on Reddit period. But I started 191 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: getting really really in a Halo. Man. I was playing 192 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: so much. I probably put in a hundred fifty hours 193 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: over the course of maybe a month or some chance. 194 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: I was putting work, man, and I was getting all right, 195 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: and you know, you're playing the game and you want 196 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: to learn, you just oh, maybe I can find some 197 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: tips online or something like that. And so you know, 198 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: there's people who are posting clips and stuff like that 199 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: on YouTube. And of course I always read the comments 200 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: because people add stuff in or whatever. Yo, every all 201 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: of it. If you look up things, you'll learn something 202 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: in the videos. Oh here's how to do this trick 203 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: or here's here's here's a strategy for this map or whatever. 204 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: But man, all the comments are just Man, these devs, 205 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: they don't even care about X y Z and man, 206 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: I remember when devs used to care about the craft 207 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: of making video games, just, bro, have you ever played 208 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: Karate Kid for Nintendo? Have you played the X Men 209 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 1: game Nintendo? You like? Do you know what? You know? 210 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: What I mean? And it's but and then the other 211 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: wild thing is all that toxicity. I feel like it. 212 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: It's somehow it's got to be feeding it, you know, 213 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: if it turns into this vac or this kind of spiral, right, 214 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: and then the people making videos they'll be saying, yeah, 215 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: here's this trick on how you can catch somebody by 216 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: surprise if you go around the corner. But also, you 217 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: know what, man, forget this game. These devs are terrible. 218 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: Maybe they fixed, but I really don't think they are. Bro, 219 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: you're making a living on making content about Halo. And 220 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: then what happens, yo, I promise you man, Right after 221 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: this is I'm watching all these Halo videos and then 222 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: the algorithm YouTube algorithm kicks in, right, So first I 223 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: watch a few Halo videos and it says, oh, you're 224 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: interested in Halo, should start showing me some more Halo videos, right, 225 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: And then it says, hey, perhaps you'd like these Joe 226 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: Rogan experience quick. And then it says, perhaps you'd like 227 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: this Jordan Peter too. Yeah, and then one would you 228 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: would you like to see a compilation of Ben Shapiro 229 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: owning college Liberals? And it's just yo, just like the 230 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: pipeline from just Halo two, just be trying to play 231 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: some regular, regular video games, just going straight, just off 232 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: the deep end. Man, It's it's it's bad. I'm just 233 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to play some video games. We gotta 234 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: be nice to these people, and they're trying if only 235 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: like how are you gonna it's like getting mad at 236 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: like somebody at a company who's like they're not really 237 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: calling the shots. I do like the the the amount 238 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: of work developers have to put in, like the fucked 239 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: up work practices and being like, okay, so we're behind 240 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: on this game or like we're not on schedule. Y'all 241 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: are gonna have to work yourselves into the ground to 242 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: deliver a thing that is then going to get people 243 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: are gonna get mad add at because we didn't give 244 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: you guys adequate time to even program the game. Like 245 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: there's like this whole the way the industry works is 246 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 1: only exacerbating that too, And I think that's why that 247 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: people More people aren't aware. It's like, yo, get mad 248 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: at the at the company first, not the individual developers first, 249 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: like why is happening? Harassing the developers and stuff like that, 250 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: and and that's I mean, it's precisely like that. We're 251 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: just now getting the point where, you know, video game 252 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: reporters will report on the labor practices of the company 253 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: and then you'll see that. Then you'll see the fans 254 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: of the game get mad and saying, yo, why are 255 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: you talking about that? You know, get bring my game 256 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: out faster. Just chill. They're working eighty hour weeks, they're 257 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: not getting paid. Well, just about this, then don't buy 258 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, so then shut up, do something else. 259 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: Read a book. But it's fine. Oh there's so many 260 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: good books. Have you guys heard of these things? Books? Ship? 261 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: I just read a book. What I was on vacation, 262 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: read this classic novel. It's the Prima Guide to Tomb 263 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: Raider to on PlayStation. Just classical literature, you know what 264 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: I mean. Amazing, amazing? Yeah, man, I don't know. So yeah, 265 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, if you if you know 266 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: a game developer, just you know, give him a hug, 267 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: give him a hug, or or just don't that thing 268 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: you were going to tweet at them. Just don't you 269 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: could not tweet at them or not if you have 270 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: to tea and say, hey, I know this isn't your fault, 271 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: but I'm still a piece of ship and I will 272 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: go on with this tweet exactly. By the way, the past, 273 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: the YouTube trying to take you from like complaints about 274 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: Hallo to Joe Rogan to Ben Shapiro is the past 275 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: again where we're retracing what led us to Q and on, 276 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: like right there, right, yeah, something about being mad at 277 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: video games just really segways nicely into authoritarianism and the 278 00:15:56,160 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: death of America. It's weird, It's it's yeah, here, we are, here, 279 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: we are I feel that way about like a lot 280 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: of culture. I feel like we're watching the NBA playoffs 281 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: and just like so much of the Twitter commentary is 282 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: just people being like you did that on purpose. He sucks. 283 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: This is bullshit, Like he doesn't stack up with Jordan's 284 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: is just like, yo, what the funk is wrong with everybody? 285 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: Like this is just fun. Like these guys are fucking 286 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: performing miracles in front of you for your entertainment. It 287 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: happens all the time, right, is Like there are things 288 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: that bring you joy and then when it's not hitting 289 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: the same for you, like, you get really it's it's 290 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: like fucking you get confused and you start being like, 291 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: well now I'm angry at the fucking thing that doesn't 292 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: give me as much joy, rather than taking a second 293 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: be like, hold on, this might be other things happening. 294 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: It's not just that the devs fucking sucking or hate 295 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: me or don't care. Right, all right, let's take a 296 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: quick break. We'll come right back and talk about student loans. 297 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: And we're back. And the second we cut to break, 298 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: Miles was like, I'm looking at this Coachell lineup, and 299 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: I thank you. I went back to Miles who used 300 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: to just pull up trying to get a cheap ticket. 301 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: And if if I get for a discount, if I 302 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: could see some of these artists, I'm not mad. Actually, 303 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: like I want to see, like, I want to see 304 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: Denzel Curry. Denzel Curry's there. I want to see bad, bad, 305 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: not good. I want to see fucking Flume. Fuck it. 306 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: If Fat Boys slam Molly in the Saharitan, when when 307 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: the drop hits on Flume, Dude, if he plays the 308 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: Tennis court Lord remix, it's over City girls Core day. 309 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, the thing is, I'm not gonna pay full 310 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: price for this, but if in my mind the situation 311 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: is I see a thing on Craig's like is helping me, 312 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: I'll give you tickets. I feel like they should sponsor 313 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 1: you guys as influencers. Yeah, people who like yeah, who 314 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: talk ship up until the last second. Yeah, I guess 315 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. I can hear all funked up. Our 316 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: marketing policy is all about nagging. We like to talk 317 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: shit about your product and then come on, Jamie XX 318 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: is there. Yeah, there's some good Millennius Japanese breakfast. Okay. 319 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you know, Joji, my little half Japanese king, 320 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: can't gizzard in the Lizard Wizard shout out Australian psych rock. Okay, anyway, 321 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: too late, don't have time. Yeah, I mean next weekend. 322 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: You know, maybe I can say goods this weekend on 323 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: streaming and then yeah, we'll see come back if it. 324 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: If it's bad and tickets are depressed, I may fuck it. 325 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: I may just for the good of the show, take 326 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 1: my zoom recorder to Coachella and just bring back some 327 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: kind of audio package of the Coachella that would be amazing, 328 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: confused and ship the people demand it. Yeah, alright, we 329 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: left the crowd fund it. We'll see. I got a 330 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: few days to figured out, all right. So we just 331 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: wanted to check in on a couple of stories around 332 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: the police. Obviously, there is another horrifying instance of police 333 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: murdering an unarmed black man, Patrick Loyoya and Graham Rapids, 334 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: this time on camera, so there might actually be some justice. 335 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: But in case, you saw the press conference with the 336 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: mayor giving the concerned body language in the looking away 337 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: and like you know, just the general response to this 338 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: ship seems to be one bad apple, just a tragic, 339 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 1: one off situation. Graham Rabids police have been pulling guns 340 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: on innocent people for the past five years, like to 341 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: the point that there have been like many complaints in 342 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: seen officers searching for a middle aged woman wanted firs 343 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: stabbing and staid handcuffed in a eleven year old girl 344 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: at gunpoint while she was just leaving a house. Those 345 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: officers were not disciplined. Months before, at Graham Rapids, officers 346 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: held five innocent teenagers at gunpoint. Local outlets reported officer 347 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: was suspended for two days after shooting a protester in 348 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: the face with a gas canister. So the first of all, 349 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: it probably doesn't need to be said the eleven year 350 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: old child who was automatically treated like a suspect was 351 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: a person of color. The shooting of the protester in 352 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: the face, I want to come back to in a second. 353 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's yeah, that's that's that's the latest hook 354 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: into being like, oh, the police are murderous, you know, 355 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: fucking monsters, and the this death especially is disturbing in 356 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: the manner which had happened. It's even this just description 357 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: spooks me because this officer was on top of him 358 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: and then shot him in the head and with the 359 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: victim face down. Yeah yeah, And but yet we're we're 360 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 1: still like dragging our feet to just be like, oh god, 361 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: let's let's investigate what happened exactly. What was the cops justification. 362 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he pulled him over because of registration being 363 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: out of date. How does it go from that to 364 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: shooting someone in the back of the head because he 365 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: was trying to arrest him, I guess, and he was 366 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: resisting and when he I believe he also was like 367 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: on top of this guy who's face down and he 368 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: was struggling to like he was like trying to just 369 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: get out of this position that's maybe probably having trouble 370 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: breathing or something. The gun comes out and then this 371 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: guy's just shot in his head um and this is 372 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: you know, it's like wild too, because there were so 373 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: many other stories in the last week that deserved everyone's attention, 374 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: and then it's like half of it was like still 375 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: Will Smith and Chris Rock talk yeah and whatever. But yeah, 376 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: so that's that get that takes us to this moment today, right, 377 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: So then we have just another aspect of the police 378 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: that I think is undercovered, and that is just how 379 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: fucking bad they are at their jobs. Like that what 380 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: they're funded beyond anything that has happened in the history 381 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: of human civilization when it comes to a police force. 382 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: And let's just run through the events of the subway 383 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: shooter arrest. I think this tweet sums it up if 384 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 1: I understand correctly. The subway shooter dropped his weapon, car, keys, 385 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: and a credit card at the scene of the crime, 386 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: called in his location to an MYPD tipline, chilled out 387 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: of McDonald's until he got tired of waiting for them 388 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: to show up. And was apprehended by a guy named 389 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: Zach that that seems to be how it went down. 390 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,199 Speaker 1: There's you know, details of that that are backed up 391 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: by the New York Times. And yeah, I mean Alec 392 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: Karri Kitzanis had a good threat on this where yeah, 393 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: I'll just read directly from it, but he was like, 394 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: you know, much of the debate about cops rightly focuses 395 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: on their millions of physical and sexual assaults, thousands of murders, 396 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: rampant overtime, sickly fraud, bribery, perjury, high rates of domestic abuse, 397 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: links to white supremisis, infiltration of left wing movements, etcetera. 398 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: But they're also historically incompetent. That that's an important detail. 399 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 1: Even with greater and greater budgets and technology, unaccountable US 400 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: police bureaucracies are getting worse and worse at what they 401 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 1: say is their core function. And there's this graph about 402 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: like homicide clearance rates from and it's just down, down, down, 403 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: down down. They're just getting worse and worse as it 404 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: becomes clear and clear to them, like no, you're the 405 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: thing that you're actually paid for is to just enforce 406 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, property crimes and basically do the bidding of 407 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: the ownership class and like clear clearing homicide that happens 408 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: between you know, people who are poor. You know they 409 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: they that's not what they're there for. Basically, no, no, 410 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: that's that's something called justice. Right, We're sorry, we're we're 411 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: security cards for private property. That like that graph of 412 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 1: the comic side clearance rates. Now, I'm sure right in 413 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: the sixties there was probably like just like we've seen now, 414 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: there's cops just like I don't know, fuck it, just 415 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: say that fucking guy did it so we can close 416 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: the case. But there's something odd though. Two is I 417 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: believe between nine technology also got better too, presumably to 418 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: make it easier for people to solve crimes like properly. 419 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: Yet it's still going down and whether that's a function 420 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: of the volume of crime whatever, But I don't think 421 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: that's really the case, because what we're looking at is 422 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: we have near historic lows for for most crime. But 423 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: even despite that, you know, eleven basically eleven billion dollar 424 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: budgets and the n Y p D and the l 425 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: A p D respectively, like they're each hauling in that 426 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: kind of money, and we still get like this kind 427 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: of argument from these people that's like, well they're defunding 428 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: the police. Yeah, they're not. As a woman, the thing 429 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: that I love to see is that most of the 430 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 1: major West police departments made explicit choices not to test 431 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: a hundred thousand rape kits so that hundreds of thousands 432 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: of rape kits so that they could do homeless arrests 433 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: and drug possession. Drug possession. Yeah, that's from that Alex 434 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: karrict Santa's thread and yeah, it's I mean I think 435 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: that ties directly back into that homicide rate and the 436 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: you know what what Miles was talking about with like 437 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: the we have the we have the technology now to 438 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: like use DNA evidence to stop sexual assault and or 439 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: at least like stop more of it than has historically 440 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: ever been possible. Instead of doing that drug possession and 441 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: homeless arrests, the anti terrorism task Force for the NYPD, 442 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: while the shooter was trying to turn himself in by 443 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: calling the tip line that they had set up, the 444 00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: NYPD Terrorism Task Force was rating a homeless encampment and 445 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: arresting unhoused people. I think what's even more damning, right, 446 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: or not even more damning, but what adds to it 447 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: is that along with the technology that's gone up, it 448 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,479 Speaker 1: gots it's so good that regular citizens can have an 449 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: idea of who a suspect is and then just do 450 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: the work for the police for them, like you're saying, 451 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: they're so busy doing this other ship of just brutalizing 452 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: the unhoused. Meanwhile, a guy who was doing like a 453 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: consultation for security camera installation. Hey that Hey, yo, that's 454 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: the guy. You know, that's the guy. And he was 455 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: telling people you'll get the funk away. And it's wild 456 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: to see that press conference where this regular guy had 457 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: intervened to save or not save people, but I apprehend him. 458 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: He was warning other people stay clear of this guy. 459 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: This he's gonna do something bad. This is the person 460 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: from the subway fucking tries to stop him, flags down 461 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: a cop and does the work for it, because he 462 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 1: was just a generally aware of person in New York. 463 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: And that that was the law enforcement that day. That 464 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: the people who needed medical care in the fucking subway 465 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: stations were mostly being tended to by transit workers and 466 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: other So there there was an NYPD officer during the 467 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: shooting who told another bystandard to call nine one one. 468 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: This is happening right after they made a push to 469 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,479 Speaker 1: like put more police in the subway system and like 470 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: just generally, like broadly the way the story has gone 471 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: like there after and you know the protests following the 472 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: George Floyd video. The there was a conversation about police 473 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: abolition and that got co opted by like people like 474 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: Mattie Glaciers basically a lot of the New York Times 475 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: editorial staff Washington Post editorial staff who came through and 476 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: basically said, like, more police equals lower crime. This is 477 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: a fact. So like, I as much as your ideas 478 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: are like nice sounding, we're over here with the adults, 479 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: and we're telling you that more police equals lower crime. 480 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: And so show me some studies. Can you show me 481 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: the studies that prove that? And it's it's there. There 482 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: are studies that say that they're usually provided by the 483 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: police and like funded by the police, and there are 484 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: more studies, and in fact, the academic consensus is the 485 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: opposite that like investing in police creates a short term 486 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: like either flatline or slight drop in crime, but then eventually, 487 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: over time it goes up because it is fucking poisonous 488 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: for a community to have the authority figures walking around 489 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: with guns, threatening everyone that's poisonous, and then separating families 490 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: as like one of their primary recourses, and also like 491 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 1: ignoring the root causes of crime. That's like the I 492 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: think the most fucked up part of when you have appropriate, 493 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: supposed paper of record trying to examine something as complex 494 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: as crime and only say, well, according to my friend 495 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: the fucking cops, this is what's going on exactly the end. 496 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: Not let's look at crime. Crime. Uh, you know, people 497 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: are talking about crime. Let's look at the statistics. Here 498 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: are the statistics on crime. Here what the police is 499 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: saying causing crime? Here, what's sociologists, psychologist, psychiatrists, people who 500 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: understand human nature. What they attribute to factors that contribute 501 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: to somebody going extra legal outside the bounds of the law. 502 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: Here's what other countries. Here's what statistics from other countries 503 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: where they have gone from. Not what we have because 504 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: again or what we have is unprecedented in the history 505 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: of human civilization. But from having a front line of 506 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: armed police force to disarming the police and seeing crime 507 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: go way down and everything like respond very positively, like 508 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: a couple of that with fucking studies on U b 509 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: I or people getting supplemental incomes and the stress that 510 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: alleviates for them psychologically, the things that they're able to do, 511 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: the things they don't have to do anymore because they 512 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: were able to find some source of money to be 513 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: able to just provide the minimums of food and then 514 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: talk to me about human behavior because they're just that's like, 515 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean, God, I wish more like more people are 516 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: fucking outraged to be like the fucking even the people 517 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: who want to say the new places like the New 518 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: York Times or Washington Post, they're like fucking Fox News. 519 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: What Fox News is for conservatives. That's what they do 520 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: for the concept of law enforcement. They're never going to 521 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: tell you something real about what's happening there, because the 522 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: whole point of that fucking place is to maintain this 523 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: narrative of police are being good and it's just a 524 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: couple of bad apples, rather than zooming the funk out 525 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: and being like, this is a bad fucking tree. Cut 526 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: cut it the funk down, and let's find some other solutions. 527 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: Because there's plenty of fucking research that says ship that works. 528 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: We're the City of New York is spending three million 529 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: dollars short of what most NGO say it would take 530 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: to stop global hunger for a year. The like, that's 531 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: what we're looking at in terms of the kind of 532 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: what the effects that money has, rather than like fucking 533 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 1: more a p c S for the fucking cops. Like, 534 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: what did you guys ever hear about that? I think 535 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: it was freaking omics, But basically, like I think it 536 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: was related to abortion and like when women could have abortions, 537 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, after Roe v. Wade, like 538 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: the murder rate dropped, it was geificantly. I think I 539 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: think that's pretty controversial, like the their science of it, 540 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: the conclusion. Yeah, their conclusions on that are a little 541 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: controversial in terms of because yeah, I know that that 542 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: fucking blew my mind when I read it too, But 543 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what the controversy is because I 544 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: think like partially people are like it kind of implies 545 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: eugenics type thing, and also people are like that was 546 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: also a time when crime across the board was like 547 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: going way down. Okay, fair enough, but as you know, 548 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: someone who's you know, like an unwanted child is an 549 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: enormous amount of stress. And I think when we're talking 550 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: about like root causes and not having enough money and 551 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: poverty and all those things contributing. It's like yeah, for sure, 552 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, And you look at even just now because 553 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: Democrats and Congress couldn't even get their ship together to 554 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: extend the child tax credit, there's are now millions of 555 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: children are now with the snap of a finger or 556 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: with the lack of fucking energy or vigor from from politicians, 557 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: are millions of kids are now in poverty again because 558 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: that little bit of money is all it takes to 559 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: like when someone's on a knife edge to either be 560 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: in poverty or just out of it being able to 561 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: eke out somewhat normal life. But I I also just 562 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: can't believe the lack of coverage for the way that 563 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: the police have responded to the idea of defunding the police, 564 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: which again means like funding the police lesson investing, you know, 565 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: community solutions. That the police have openly responded to our 566 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: outrage over their murdering of innocent people by being more 567 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: brutal failing to respond when crimes are in progress, Like 568 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: that's something that I know was happening, because I like 569 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: no people to whom that has happened, like over the 570 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: course of the like two years now, that that continues 571 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: to be a refrain where the police like, yes, sorry, 572 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: we were defunded, and when actually actuality, They've continued to 573 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: be funded at levels like unprecedented in the history of 574 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: human civilization. There's been no restraint added to their tactics. 575 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: They've continued to murder unarmed men and women of color 576 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: with impunity, and their attitude seems to be that they're 577 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: at war with the people who they're policing now more 578 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: than ever because the people who they're policing dared criticize them, 579 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: Like how is that not a story that is constantly 580 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 1: being covered like it's an unbelievable fucking threat to Yeah, 581 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 1: it's while when you have throughout all this, right, we 582 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: also have stories like man, flight attendants are dealing with 583 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: the rowdiest motherfucker's on planes than ever before, and what 584 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: did they do? Some airlines said, Okay, this is the situation. 585 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: We have people who have to deal with the public. 586 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: The flight attendants have to deal with the passengers. We 587 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: found out from the from the flight attendants who have 588 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: to deal with this that their lives are difficult and 589 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: more chaotic because they're dealing with rowdy people. How do 590 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: we turn down the rowdy nous from the passengers? The 591 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: fucking airlines had the wherewithal to say, maybe we serve 592 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: less alcohol because that seems to be getting people turned up. 593 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: There seems to be some stimulant. There seems to be 594 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: some added to a factor to the equation that is 595 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: increasing the chaos that our flight attendants are experiencing when 596 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: they take to the skies. If I feel like you could, 597 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: you could extend that to how police work, right, they say, damn, 598 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: people are fucking turned up out there is the is 599 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: the solution more flight attendants? No, they said, let's I'm 600 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: the flight attendance with bigger RoboCop flight attendant. Right, And 601 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: in this version, right, someone would say, what's making people 602 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: act this way? It's they experienced severe lack Yeah, so 603 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: because of that, that's that's putting people into mental states 604 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: or or situations of having to survive what You're seeing 605 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: them do things that you call illegal. So maybe to 606 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: do that you turn down the fucking heat that even 607 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: gets somebody to the point where they considered a steal 608 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: or whatever. Like we're talking like like the kinds of 609 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: low level crime that the New York Times and ship 610 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: want to act like that's why the fucking whole world 611 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: is going down? But why not address because that seems 612 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: to be the key here. But again, like any disingenuous 613 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: attempt at solving a problem, it's just gonna say, well, 614 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: let's just do the thing that benefits us the most. 615 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: We need to be paid more. Actually that's the problem. 616 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: We're not paid more to fucking kill people. And if I, 617 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: if they gave a funk, they would actually be coming 618 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: about real solutions how to address what causes crime rather 619 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: than be like, we need more community based police overtime. 620 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: Let's get that overtime, sweet sweet overtime. But the bystanders 621 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: like coming through and helping one another. Like, while that 622 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: sounds like a weird, like a weird thing to just 623 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, you guys are on your own type 624 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: thing at this. At the first of all, it does 625 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: appear that way even while we're funding than YPD like 626 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: to be the sixth highest funded military in the world 627 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. But there's also like the first 628 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: of all, like anyone who wants to call it a 629 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: good cop, that's like that's like if there's a if 630 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 1: there's a good a good person who is like smart 631 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: and resourceful and working as a police officer. I want 632 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: them doing a different job like that is helping the community, 633 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: like or just as an unarmed like person who is 634 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: trying to help people out like like, I'm sure they 635 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: would be good at fucking helping solve things if they 636 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: If there is such a good thing, what are we 637 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 1: supposed to get more unarmed like peacekeepers. Yeah, I feel 638 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: like there's no follow through on those stories, like you 639 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: don't see that and then but the thing is there, right, 640 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: there's no follow through on the stories because it does 641 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: happen and the results are yeah, sh it worked, right. Well, 642 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: that's not that that that doesn't leave because it doesn't bleed, right. 643 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,919 Speaker 1: And I think that's where like we have to really 644 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: ask ourselves and the kinds of stories we engaged with, 645 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: like what's actually reflecting our reality and how much are 646 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: we getting absolutely absolutely headfucked by disingenuous actors who are 647 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: a inco hoots with the people who like cover up 648 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 1: the physical manifestations of the failures of capitalism the police, okay, 649 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: and they go to their friends who have the fucking 650 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: ears and eyes of most people in the country that 651 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: the media and just keep reinforcing this thing, which is 652 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: it's not inequality, it's not the fucking police, it's not this, 653 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: it's not the real fucking thing, And just keep us 654 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: in this funhouse where we look at these fucked up 655 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: versions of our realities. But so many people are unable 656 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: to arrive at the conclusion because they're just served this 657 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: distorted ship over and over and I get a repetition 658 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: becomes reality. There's so many people who think everything is 659 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 1: so fucked up everywhere, and it's like on an emotional level, Yeah, 660 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna argue with that. There's a lot 661 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: of suffering out there. But like when when these very 662 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: opportunistic stories come out which are trying to like keep 663 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: progress from occurring or to take back the gains of 664 00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: like progressive like lawmakers who are trying to say, like 665 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: were incarcerating too many people, that's just when I don't know, 666 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: We're just we just got an increasingly fucked up, untenable situation. 667 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: And yeah, my desires for us to really be able 668 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: to more people, to be able to really look at 669 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: this and kind of think of, like what where our 670 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,959 Speaker 1: part is in this whole equation? And we've talked before 671 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: about that Eugene Oregon. I think it was like community 672 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: police Force. Those like basically they're two help people who 673 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,479 Speaker 1: are having started out with like trying to help people 674 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: who are having bad drug experiences, but then it became 675 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 1: like we're just here too. You know, if you need 676 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: somebody and you don't want that somebody to come in 677 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 1: with a gun pointed at you, then like that's what 678 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: we're here for. And like the profiles read of them, 679 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: the stuff that they're doing is just things that anyone 680 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 1: can do if they're just patient and willing to listen 681 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: and like learn what is happening in the situation, which 682 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: it sounds like is what is working in this subway? 683 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,399 Speaker 1: S your thing? It's like, okay, well I'm you know, 684 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: I may have some CPR training and there's a person 685 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: who's bleeding right there, so I'm going to put that 686 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: training into effect, or you know, Zach coming through and 687 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: just being like that's the person from all those news bulletins. 688 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: I'm going to bring attention to the fact that that's 689 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: who that is. Yeah, yeah, it's I mean, you look, 690 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: there's there and there's so many studies like about what 691 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,320 Speaker 1: what armed police versus unarmed police do like in general, 692 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: not like broadly over what's better for crime, but like 693 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: there's so many things about saying that these interventions you're 694 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: talking about how effective they are that and also on 695 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: the other side that militarized police forces do not enhance 696 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: public safety or reduce crime at all. The only thing 697 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: militarized police forces do is funk up their reputation in 698 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: the public. And that's all it is. There's no they 699 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 1: can't even point to the fact. It's like, well, yeah, 700 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: when we send these people will out look like fucking 701 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 1: Seal Team six to go bust a fucking meth dealer 702 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: or something that that's not that that's bringing crime down. 703 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: It isn't. Yeah. There there's this other story Jam hit 704 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: us with about the police real quick that I got 705 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,320 Speaker 1: I gotta touch on because it's right. They keep doing 706 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: things where when they see themselves where somebody taking video 707 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,919 Speaker 1: of them. Rather than being like, well, that's their right, 708 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 1: you know, we we work for them. Instead of doing that, 709 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: they start playing copyrighted music as loud as they can 710 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: because somebody told them that that will get that will 711 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: make it so the video can't be posted on social media. 712 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 1: So uninherently like trying to It's like them wiping their 713 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: prints like it's a it's a thing a guilty person does, 714 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: like trying to like funk with the evidence of their wrongdoing, 715 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: like right off the bat, which just uninherently creepy and 716 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 1: like menacing thing to do. There's an example from a 717 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: couple of weeks back where I was trying to access 718 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: bodycam footage at a Beverly Hills police station and filming 719 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 1: the encounter on Instagram, and the copy was dealing with 720 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 1: whipped out his phone and started playing Sublime, the notorious 721 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: pro police band Sublime. And then that same police department 722 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,439 Speaker 1: previously did something similar within My Life the Beatles song 723 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:25,279 Speaker 1: the like really heartfelt Beatles song that's hilarious. And then 724 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: there was one that went viral last June where a 725 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 1: cops started playing Taylor Swift, which completely backfired. The clip 726 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: promptly went viral, was uploaded YouTube, where it is still 727 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: available now and has been viewed millions of times. There's 728 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 1: also like a week ago, cops pulled up to a 729 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: residential street in Santa Anna at eleven o'clock at night 730 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: while investigating a stolen vehicle and started absolutely blasting a 731 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:54,240 Speaker 1: playlist of Disney songs, and the officer on the scene 732 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,279 Speaker 1: admitted it was to create copyright infringement. When one of 733 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 1: the people whose children he woke up was a city 734 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: councilman who he recognized and was like apparently intimidated by, 735 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 1: and so I was like, I'm sorry, okay, and the 736 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: guy like made him apologize to all the families, Like yeah, 737 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: it was wild. When that guy came out, He's like, 738 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: do you know who I am? The city council person? 739 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: You know whatever? Dead whatever, like cane to do. This 740 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: is gonna get copy blocked anyway, narrator. In fact, it 741 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: did not get copyright blocked. So this is like the 742 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 1: other thing that I just want to point out about. 743 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: This is the competence the most powerful individual actors in 744 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 1: our society, like individual citizens with the right to use 745 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: deadly force without consequence, are being run with the integrity 746 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: and tactical understanding of truth of like an elderly relative 747 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: who believes, like email forwards like that this whole strategy 748 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: is based on nothing. It does not work, has never worked. 749 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: YouTube claims you're allowed to use whatever music you want 750 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 1: in the background of something like if it's just incidental 751 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: like this. So like, guy, and here's a clip of 752 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: your friend at a bar, and you're like, hey, put 753 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: it on YouTube, but it's not actually like loaded into 754 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: part of like the audio track. The sweepers don't pick 755 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 1: it up in that way, and if they do, the 756 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: other part is they'll just put a pre roll ad 757 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: in front of it, because then they'll say, Okay, this 758 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: is actually a Beastie Boys track. We'll just put an 759 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: ad in front of it, so then the Beastie Boys 760 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: can monetize it. But you can continue, well, we'll make 761 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: your police brutality video wildly available, widely available. We just 762 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: need to monetize it, which is also fucking bizarre land already. 763 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what assholes in the I watched the 764 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift video, which I hadn't seen before, but oh 765 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: my god, to just like start that in the middle 766 00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: right like it's you know, it's like he's no, he 767 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. He's kind of acknowledging it in 768 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: the moment, and the person's calling him on it. It's 769 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: just like, dude, what are you doing? How do you 770 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: think this is going to turn out well for you? 771 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: It's the same thing as like if a cop like 772 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,680 Speaker 1: was caught doing something and they started taking off their 773 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 1: uniform in front of you while you have them on 774 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: camera and putting on like a costume and be like, 775 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. You're like, you 776 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 1: are trying You're trying to obscure the facts right now 777 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,640 Speaker 1: by doing this. No, I'm just playing uh sublime, man. 778 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: I mean, where were you at ninety two? I mean 779 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: I was beating the funk out of Rodney King. And 780 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 1: but that's the whole other story. That's what the cops 781 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: would be saying. Think about the fact that so that 782 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,319 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift video was from over a year ago. I 783 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 1: think it hasn't been taken down, only became popular because 784 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 1: of how stupid it was, and they're still using this tactic. 785 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: Like think about the level of you know, investigate investigative 786 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: rigor that they're putting into this, which is like their 787 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: way of being like ha ha, no one can catch us. 788 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 1: And then think about how fucking bad they must be 789 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: at their jobs. They just go around and bully poor people. 790 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: That's all they fucking do. Yeah, I mean this is 791 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: like the same ship, Like how long have we known 792 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 1: that broken windows policing doesn't work apparently, you know, we 793 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: never knew that because exactly right, it doesn't matter what 794 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: the facts say. It's just about these habits that they have, 795 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 1: and because on the other side of it, they don't 796 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 1: actually experience any form of regulating or fallout from their actions, 797 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: like they're just in like the worst form of being, 798 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: like yes, manned into like the worst dumb fucking way 799 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: of behaving because all they have is positive reinforcement for 800 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: every dumb fucking idea they have, and you're left with, Yeah, 801 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: incompetent people who rarely have to answer for their incompetence, 802 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: only furthering their incompetence. And the way it's written about 803 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: in The New York Times is that broken windows policing 804 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: is a tactic used by the m y P in 805 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: an attempt to bring down crime of all sorts. So 806 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: they take them at their word of what the intent 807 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 1: is of this thing, and not no like follow up 808 00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: or second sentence fragment where they're like, but it obviously 809 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: doesn't work and is effect functionally just a way for 810 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 1: them to control poor and communities of color. Yeah, the 811 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: New York Times is the fucking cops they're really fucking 812 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: bad at their jobs, like worse than I could have 813 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: possibly imagined. I mean, how do you fucking write any art? 814 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: How are you going to do anything like balanced in 815 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: terms of journalism and only take like like not being 816 00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: discerning in the kind of cherry picked evidence or studies 817 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: are pointed to to like prove your point and in 818 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: no way try to attempt to explain an issue like 819 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 1: as best as your abilities can as a journal because 820 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: you have the abilities, Like I know, I've read good 821 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: articles in the New York Countians like you guys, you 822 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 1: are good writers and that you have you employ a 823 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 1: lot of really smart journalists. But I don't know what 824 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: the fuss going on over there. Right, Let's take a 825 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: quick break and we'll come back and talk about why 826 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: none of it matters because aliens are gonna come destroy 827 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 1: us anyways. And we're back and just at a surface 828 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 1: levels that have you guys watched any any coach Hella coverage, 829 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: if you watched any of the performances streamed anything. I 830 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: just saw pictures of people celebrities that were there. Yeah, yeah, 831 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: I've seen like the two seconds of a Billie Eilish 832 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,840 Speaker 1: performance that they keep showing me on Twitter to be 833 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 1: like check it out. It was like the number one 834 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 1: trending thing for like four days out of the five 835 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 1: days this week, the same clip over and over again. 836 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if my Twitter like is broke in 837 00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,839 Speaker 1: or what, but it just felt it felt like they 838 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: really wanted me to to watch that. But those two 839 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: seconds looked like there was a lot of energy there. 840 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,839 Speaker 1: You know, I I'm not that interested in like watching 841 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,840 Speaker 1: video of live music performances personally, that's just like not 842 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,240 Speaker 1: a thing. I mean unless you're watching like an actual 843 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,799 Speaker 1: produced to like music, like a rock documentary or concert documentary. 844 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, phone footage of a live show not gonna 845 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: kind of work. But I mean, the wildest thing was 846 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: to see uh like Leonardo DiCaprio would like just completely 847 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: masked up, like like blowing through there like some ghost. 848 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: It's just being like I'm here, but you'll never see 849 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: my face and I'm vaping. But the yeah, he he 850 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: had a mask on that like covered up most of 851 00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: his face. It looked like one of those U those 852 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: uh fencing like masks. So I got some tickets you're 853 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,360 Speaker 1: trying to unload jack or what? Yeah? Yeah, I'm just 854 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: saying it looks up tight and like people should maybe 855 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 1: think about like hitting me up on Twitter. G ms 856 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 1: are open and this weekend second weekends supposed to be 857 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: the best, so just check it out. Uh so that's 858 00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: been Coachella. No, So Jackman did this article where they 859 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,799 Speaker 1: were talking about, like, you know, coach Ella continues to 860 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: be at the bleeding edge of capitalist bullshit, and there's 861 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 1: like some good points in there. I just think they're 862 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 1: a little bit dismissive of like how potent like this 863 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 1: this festival and this ideal is. You know, they highlight 864 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:41,400 Speaker 1: the barge barges full of garbage and like months of 865 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,280 Speaker 1: water supply being sucked out of a very delicate ecosystem 866 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: in single weekends. Uh. This year, there's an n f 867 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: T spin on it where you're given an n f 868 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: T desert flower seed and then you get to sit 869 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: back and watch it bloom. And if you get one 870 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: of the six rare desert flowers, if that's what your 871 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 1: nf T blooms into, you get like, I don't know, 872 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,440 Speaker 1: like the big stuffed animal or some sh it. I 873 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:09,400 Speaker 1: don't know what what's that? Did you get insulin? Oh? Yeah, exactly? 874 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,920 Speaker 1: But truly feels like the the n f T market 875 00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: is just evolving into a elementary school carnival. Yeah, they 876 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 1: and the people who keep hockey them cannot read the room. Ever. 877 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 1: Zig Cody Ziggler pointed out this thing that there was 878 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 1: like an n f T like a board ape yacht 879 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 1: club thing that was supposed to be in like in 880 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,399 Speaker 1: like sort of coincide with four twenty and like weed 881 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,600 Speaker 1: justice for black people, but as an n f T, 882 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: and you're like, this is all bad, Like this is 883 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 1: so has completely no awareness at all around what anyone 884 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: thinks of this or even what the imagery is of, 885 00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: like putting an ape with like the context of like 886 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:54,240 Speaker 1: black people are incarcerated because of like weed charges um. Anyway, 887 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: it's just yeah that that ball keep throwing steadily. But 888 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 1: so the detailer jumped out to me is just kind 889 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 1: of having some familiarity with the history of Americans currently 890 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 1: known as the Baby Boomers. That Burning Man or Sorry 891 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:15,839 Speaker 1: Coachella was originally designed by its founders as a synthesis 892 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: of nineties music festivals. Burning Man and quote the sixties 893 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 1: era longing for a new world, which three days in 894 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: the desert helps satisfy m M and I just thought 895 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: that was like to be dismissive of that is a mistake. 896 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 1: That's like so specific and clear, and it was so 897 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: effective with the baby boomers, you know, they had like 898 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 1: all these revolutionary impulses, and like they took that. And 899 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,439 Speaker 1: with the case of Coachella, they give it a fun, 900 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,720 Speaker 1: like pretty release valve that's neatly contained in the middle 901 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:54,640 Speaker 1: of the desert, doesn't actually have any impact and in 902 00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:58,919 Speaker 1: fact enriches American Express or whoever the corporate sponsors are. 903 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: But like Woodstock was a music festival conceived by Fifth Avenue, 904 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,320 Speaker 1: like admin, and like that history is like only slowly 905 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: like trickled out. But any sort of idealism of the 906 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:20,920 Speaker 1: sixties like got turned into just like advertising aesthetic basically, 907 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: and the people who got rich off of that aesthetic 908 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: are in the business of making sure that like you understand, 909 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,440 Speaker 1: it's just an aesthetic that is like fun to visit 910 00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 1: every once in a while, and you know it's created 911 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: the current world, like the what what happened with the sixties? 912 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: And like I highly recommend the electric kool Aid asset 913 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 1: tests the tracking of the Mary Prankster's and like the 914 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 1: LSD movement that sprung up around like The Grateful Dead 915 00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 1: and ken Ksi and like that just kind of falling apart. 916 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 1: But I don't know, like we like that. That's very 917 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: that's very potent to be like, yeah, no, we just 918 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: like create this little pop up shop Disneyland for people 919 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 1: where we you know, make beautiful advertisement versions of the 920 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 1: issues you care about. You get to take home a souvenir, 921 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 1: you get to take pictures there that like put you 922 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 1: in an environment where it seems like you're actually engaging 923 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: with the thing. And then you're done, and like that 924 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:41,000 Speaker 1: you can go back to the big loneliness as someone 925 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: recently called it when talking about Rec's eggs. And I 926 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: just think it's it's important to recognize that like that 927 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:53,919 Speaker 1: group that like started out with those idealistic impulses are 928 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 1: now the group that's like funding or that's fueling like 929 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,000 Speaker 1: you and on and the rise of Donald Trump and ship. 930 00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,000 Speaker 1: So like we have an opportunity to not do that 931 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: with a lot of the like energy around social justice 932 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,880 Speaker 1: and social movements. But I think it's important that people 933 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: like recognize that this is somewhat insidious. What when it's 934 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,880 Speaker 1: like converted into just a an ad for American Express 935 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,880 Speaker 1: that you participate in creating on your Instagram feed. But 936 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 1: you're saying like it's but more than that, the insidious 937 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,879 Speaker 1: nature is to give people this like sort of well 938 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 1: coordinated distraction to just kind of take a little wind 939 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,840 Speaker 1: out of the sales. So you're like, yeah, blow some 940 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: steam off at Coachella. Then I can go back to 941 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,439 Speaker 1: toiling and not really getting the itch to like cause 942 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: like even your reference this line of saying like spent 943 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: to spend three days in like a world that three 944 00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,360 Speaker 1: days in a new world, longing for a new world, 945 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: which three days in the desert helps satisfy just sort 946 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 1: of subdue the longing for the new world. Yeah, and 947 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: you associated with that, like suddenly your idea for like 948 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 1: a socialist society or like community where you can like 949 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: be part of a community with other people and like 950 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,880 Speaker 1: be outdoors and outdoor spaces, Suddenly that's something you associate 951 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: with like a trip to the desert for three days 952 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: instead of something that you like work with your u, 953 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 1: like the people in your community to accomplish uh in 954 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 1: your community. Like it becomes just a part of Disneyland 955 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:34,640 Speaker 1: of like this like simulacrum of like an idealistic society 956 00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,359 Speaker 1: that actually is contained by American express, like the like 957 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 1: try to imagine hearing that like a revolution rose up 958 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 1: on the Coachella campgrounds, like like it's it's impossible because 959 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 1: it's so carefully tailored. There's also a New Yorker article 960 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 1: that like follows around the guy who created Coachella, and 961 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,120 Speaker 1: you know he's just trying to make money. But like 962 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:03,040 Speaker 1: the thing that was the scariest moment for him in 963 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 1: the history of the festival was when like people figured 964 00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,319 Speaker 1: out how to clone the bracelets and like they had 965 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 1: a gate crashing issue, Like it's that's how carefully content 966 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: it is. Well, I mean, I think everyone's so fucked 967 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 1: up there. I don't know what they're bringing back with 968 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 1: them at the end of it, but they may be 969 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 1: subdued by the amount of trucks either way. But yeah, 970 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,360 Speaker 1: it's fine. Like I don't I don't mean to, Like 971 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 1: I I also don't look down on anyone going to 972 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,720 Speaker 1: Coachella and like going and getting funked up in the 973 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 1: desert and like around music they love. I just I 974 00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 1: think it's I don't know, I think the packaging of 975 00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 1: it and the engaging with it, like it's not just 976 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 1: merely that you're going to a music festival. There are 977 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 1: other people who are trying to do a lot of marketing, normalizing, etcetera. 978 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 1: Like it's it's not it's not it's not as I 979 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 1: guess it's not as what it appears to maybe on 980 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 1: the consumer side versus what you know, companies like you're 981 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,280 Speaker 1: mentioning get out of it too to associate their name 982 00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 1: with like oh, check out the like Pepsi cold water 983 00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 1: filling like station, and now you're like, oh, yeah, they 984 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 1: the water filling thing from the company that also sucks 985 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 1: drinking water out of the earth, like that sort of 986 00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: mixed signaling essentially. Yeah, I don't know, it just it's 987 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 1: a it feels, you know. The whole thesis of our 988 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,360 Speaker 1: show is that there's this collective unconscious and that like 989 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 1: people are smarter than than the mainstream like media apparatus 990 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,120 Speaker 1: like often gives them credit for. And I think like 991 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 1: all of the ship matters, like the messages we get 992 00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: from the fact that, oh yeah, like the richest family 993 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:49,920 Speaker 1: in Germany are like Nazi billionaires. The Coachella is like 994 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 1: taking all the things that are actually like serious, good, 995 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: beautiful ideas that we should be thinking about incorporating into 996 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,240 Speaker 1: our daily lives and like turn them into a aesthetic 997 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 1: that like you you know, get to bathe in on 998 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 1: Instagram for a couple of days and then like move 999 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 1: on from Like I think all that stuff is has 1000 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:16,959 Speaker 1: an impact. That is what has kept people advocating, like, 1001 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,920 Speaker 1: you know, not advocating for their best interests for the 1002 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 1: past like fifty sixty years. Basically, Yeah, I mean, I 1003 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 1: wonder if the difference is right because at least boomers 1004 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 1: and Gen xers they were able to benefit from an 1005 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 1: economy that began to subdue a lot of those revolutionary impulses, right, 1006 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 1: because especially with the eighties, we're like, oh, you're yuppies. 1007 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: Now you're sold out or whatever, and it's like, no, 1008 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: I'm now a guy, i M actually have access to wealth. 1009 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 1: But millennials and younger we're not, We're not following that 1010 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 1: same path. So I think they're I'm I'm I'm curious, 1011 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,920 Speaker 1: how like what has to happen where you have to 1012 00:59:56,040 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 1: kind of really take the to subdue the ear is 1013 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 1: that are so many young people feel now around like 1014 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,919 Speaker 1: saying like dude, I'm completely disillusioned by my lack of opportunity, 1015 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Like I'm in fact, I've become nihilistic. Where you know, 1016 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,600 Speaker 1: how do you how do you like turn that person 1017 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 1: into like a good, you know, target shopping consumer for 1018 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 1: life type person, especially when they don't even have the 1019 01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,440 Speaker 1: money to do stuff within the first place. I mean, 1020 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: I think maybe that's like the weird moment that we're 1021 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,640 Speaker 1: into is like that process is a little bit slowing 1022 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 1: down because of the massive amounts of inequality. Yeah, David, 1023 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 1: what are what are your thoughts? Both says you know 1024 01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:39,160 Speaker 1: someone from outside the country, but also you know somebody 1025 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:42,439 Speaker 1: who used to report for Bloomberg Like where where where 1026 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 1: do you kind of fall on this whole like moment 1027 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 1: in American idealism? I guess I'm I'm extremely worried about well, 1028 01:00:55,160 --> 01:01:00,240 Speaker 1: particularly what's going on in America the polemic. But so 1029 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,439 Speaker 1: and I mean I write about it in the book. 1030 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 1: You know, when I started reporting for Bloomberg News in 1031 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,920 Speaker 1: eleven on this team, it was literally the last week 1032 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 1: of November eleven when when Zuccardi Park, when occupied Wall 1033 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:21,240 Speaker 1: Street was forcibly removed overnight. It was the beginning of 1034 01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 1: the debate of the one percent versus or now it's 1035 01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,040 Speaker 1: it's transformed into the zero point one percent versus n 1036 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:36,640 Speaker 1: and that you know, the you know, the bifurcation of 1037 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:41,040 Speaker 1: society and the you know, afterwards came Piccatti, of course, 1038 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 1: who took at to the next level and also showed 1039 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 1: gave the historical context. But it's only got to gotten 1040 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 1: worse in recent years. And I'm deeply concerned for the 1041 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 1: future of America. I'm very concerned for the future of 1042 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,440 Speaker 1: Europe as well, because it has so it has similar problems, 1043 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of the incredible inequality of wealth 1044 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 1: and and and the haves and have not have not. 1045 01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 1: You know, is is also undermining you know, the fabric 1046 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 1: of Europe and European Union as it is in the 1047 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:25,040 Speaker 1: United States in terms of political spending, on political capital, 1048 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 1: political power, the shaping of American capitalism as it you know, 1049 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,919 Speaker 1: we started off this episode talking about Earth Day and 1050 01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,640 Speaker 1: and scientists saying, oh, it's going only going to be 1051 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 1: two degrees, you know, in the next century. The problem 1052 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 1: of wealth inequality in one hand, and and and climate 1053 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 1: change at the other, which very much go hand in hand. 1054 01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm really sorry, but I'm worried that 1055 01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 1: it's already you know, it's too late. You know, it's 1056 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 1: that where we're you know, we're on the on the 1057 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 1: precipice of day of decades of disaster and war and 1058 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,360 Speaker 1: troubles and and you know, I don't know, I'm very 1059 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:08,480 Speaker 1: concerned for the world. Sorry to leave you guys with this. 1060 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's something we all feel because 1061 01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 1: it's there's the rigidity of it all when we're seeing 1062 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,520 Speaker 1: that the way that the powers that be are the wealthy, 1063 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 1: choose to solve problems and actually exacerbate the existing problems, 1064 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 1: and they can't see that terrible feedback loop that, you know. 1065 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 1: I think that's why a lot of people are like, well, 1066 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 1: I guess the wheels have to completely fall off for 1067 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,240 Speaker 1: people to figure it out. Um, but can that happen 1068 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,000 Speaker 1: or on the other side of it, even see people 1069 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 1: how they're even saying like, well, you know what, we'll 1070 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,760 Speaker 1: spend our way out of climate change. We'll build and 1071 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 1: innovate our way out of climate change, and we'll just 1072 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,920 Speaker 1: spend more money and experiment more rather than just doing 1073 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 1: the very simple thing, which is like begin to switch 1074 01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:55,320 Speaker 1: to renewable sources of energy and really have and think 1075 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 1: of like what the amount of you know, carbon output 1076 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,439 Speaker 1: that certain industry is or admitting every year. But rather 1077 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,320 Speaker 1: than doing that, it's like, no, we'll just keep doing 1078 01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 1: this and like we do, if a problem comes up, 1079 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 1: we'll just spend money to try and figure it out. 1080 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:09,600 Speaker 1: But at that point, I just feel like the problems 1081 01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 1: are being insurmountable where no amount of money can be 1082 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 1: spent to, like I don't know, have a desalinization plant 1083 01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 1: that could you know, like hydrate the entire hemisphere. What 1084 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 1: are we talking about here in that scenario. And I 1085 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,120 Speaker 1: think that's what is a little bit disillusioning, is that, oh, 1086 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:33,960 Speaker 1: we see that the same problem solving mentality is we're 1087 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 1: just going to stay in place because of the people 1088 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 1: that are entower consistent. All right, that's gonna do it 1089 01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 1: for this week's weekly Zeitgeys, please like and review the show. 1090 01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 1: If you like the show, UH means the world to Miles. 1091 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: He he needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having 1092 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,680 Speaker 1: a great weekend and I will talk to him on 1093 01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:15,240 Speaker 1: day By S. S. S.