1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: Podcast Play Good on the special La edition of Taking 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: a Walk. I am so excited to be taken a 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: walk with an actor who, simply put is prolific. It 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: would take me days to name his amazing list of 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: screen accomplishments. Ed Begley Junior is my guest on the 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk series here in Studio City. Some of 7 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: my personal favorite work of Ed's are the many hysterical 8 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: characters he plays in The Wonderful Christopher Guest monumentaries, Best 9 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: in Show, Mighty Win, four Year Consideration, just fabulous work. 10 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: Ed is also an environmental activist, and he and his wife, 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: Rachelle Carson, are a major part of the Walden Woods project, 12 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: which I so dearly love. Let's go take a walk 13 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: with Ed Begley Junior taking a walk with Buzz Night. 14 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: Nice little neighborhood in Studio City is called Colfax Meadows 15 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: and it's a lovely area with lots of mature trees, 16 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: which is the big draw people finally figured out a 17 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: few years ago. One of the most prevalent, one of 18 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: the most common denominators in homes that have tremendous value 19 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: is mature trees. You know wherever you are and whatever 20 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: part of the country the world you are. We'll go 21 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: around this succument here. Don't get stuck, buzz I will not. 22 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: I promise you. So. In the series that you did 23 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: that was really about Living Green, which was a tremendous series. 24 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: I loved it. You had a neighborhood friend slash nemesis. 25 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: I would say in the series, is that fair to say, 26 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: Oh boy, you had to bring him up. You're gonna 27 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 1: even say his name, Okay, I'll say it Bill, not Bill, No, Okay, 28 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: here we go. Yeah, we're having a fine wallus. And 29 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: then you had to get into that. You know. The 30 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: truth is he's my dear friend, and it's like a 31 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: wrestling match or something. I'm gonna take you down. I'm 32 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: gonna take you down the twenty third of March. You know. 33 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: It's it's a fun kind of competition that we have 34 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: to see who's the lowest carbon footprint. And I'll be honest, 35 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: he was beating me for years, but only because there 36 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: was one of him and the three of us, so 37 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: per capita, I was doing very well over the years. 38 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,079 Speaker 1: I was his immediate neighbor. We're about a mile apart now, 39 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: but we're not at all apart in our approach to this, 40 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: and we want to promote sustainable stuff that people can afford. 41 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: Not everybody can afford the kind of solo that I 42 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: have or the you know, some of the other things 43 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: that I have. So you want to promote things that 44 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: people can afford, the average Joe or Jane. So we've 45 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: tried to do that. You know, if you want to 46 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: buy some high falute and fancy car, that's fine. But 47 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: if you only have the money to buy some light 48 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: bulbs and energy saving thermostat, you should do that. You know, 49 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: plant a vegetable garden, make some composts, ride a bike, 50 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: take off transportation. All that stuff I just mentioned is 51 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: very cheap. And so that's the way I started too. 52 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: People say I can't afford X, Y and Z like you, 53 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: and I go neither could I win I started. You 54 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: don't run up to the top of Mount Everest. You 55 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:13,959 Speaker 1: get to base camp and you get acclimated and you 56 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: climb as high as you can. So that's what I'm 57 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: trying to do, show what works, and do it myself 58 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: in my own life. But I hasten to add this. 59 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: I didn't get right away buzz For years, I've been 60 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: promoting do what you can and buy the energy saving 61 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: life bulbs, and there's important what we do, that's important, 62 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: But that's only one of three pillars you need to 63 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: have any environmental success. The other two are corporate responsibility 64 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: and good legislation. Yep. And if everybody's just doing stuff 65 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: themselves and the government is involved in businesses aren't involved, 66 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: you're not going to get anywhere. We needed to Clean 67 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: Air Act to clean up the air in LA withn't 68 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: just people like me driving electric cars in nineteen seventy 69 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: and beyond. It takes good legislation, that's how we did it. 70 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: And it takes corporate responsibility, and that's how we did it. 71 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: So you need all three and if any of them short, 72 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a wobbly you know situation. You need 73 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: to have them the whole of equal strength. So that's 74 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: what I make sure people know. Do what you can 75 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: in your own life, but make sure that there's corporate 76 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: responsibility whenever you can affect it. And there are course 77 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: related The more stuff that you do, the more energy 78 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: saving light bulbs you buy or green cars that you buy, 79 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: than corporate America is going to be more inclined to 80 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: make them. You know, you can influence corporate America with 81 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: your purchasing power. You can vote an election day. You 82 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: can vote in the supermarket isles and the showroom floors, 83 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: and then of course goods the legislation. Same thing. If 84 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: you're affecting what corporate America's doing, you're doing stuff in 85 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: your personal life. You're gonna help that will help make 86 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: for good legislation. You know, if you get involved as 87 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: an activist too and start influencing the way people vote, 88 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 1: the way our legislators vote. But you were alone Wolf 89 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: at that time. It was very odd to drive an 90 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: elect to car in nineteen seventy. Of course, they've been 91 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: around for years before me. Henry Ford's wife preferred her 92 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: Baker Electric to his noisey contraption that was the nineteen 93 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 1: ten car called the Baker Electric. They've been around for 94 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: a while. But you know, I did what I could, 95 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: stood on the shoulders of people, you know, Rachel Carson, 96 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: you know, and other people like that. She wrote Silence 97 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: springing Henry David Thurrow, you know Emerson. People talked about 98 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: the value of the natural world, and I chose to 99 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: value it myself. Also, I got to give credit to 100 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: my dad, Ed Begley Senior. He never used the word 101 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 1: environmentalist really, but he was one. He had lived through 102 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: the Great Depression. He was the son of Irish immigrants. 103 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: So we turn off the lights and turn off the 104 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: water and save string and save tinfoil. So over the 105 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: time birthday came around, I was primed and ready to go. 106 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: And he died within a few days of that first Earthday. 107 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: So is that right? Yeah? So I did a lot 108 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: of the stuff I did to honor him, because he 109 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: was always interested in what I was for, not what 110 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: I was against. I said, I hate this smileg smile 111 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: against my lungs, Dad, and I hate I said. He 112 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: would say, well, I know what you're against, which is smog, 113 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: and I'm against the two. But what are you for? 114 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: What are you doing? Go help the build of green car, 115 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: Go down to the small control district and testify about 116 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: how we should clean up the smog. Do something, get involved, 117 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: don't just talk about it. And so I got motivated 118 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy and I did a lot of stuff 119 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: and it all worked. What I did, what corporate America did, 120 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: what good laws did, like the Clean Air Act. We 121 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: have four times of cars in La now from nineteen seventy, 122 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: millions more people, but a fraction of the smog. Wow. 123 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: It described the scene where we're taking a walk right now. 124 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: If you couldn't stop for a second, just point out 125 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: short's going on. Yep, this is the La River. You 126 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: can see a little bit of water in a like 127 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: secondary channel cut at the bottom of the larger channel 128 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: is for flood control. I understand why they did what 129 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: they did back in the thirties. A lot of it 130 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: happened in the thirties. The Army Corps engineers decided to 131 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: pave over to control it because there's a great deal 132 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: There was a certain amount of loss of life and 133 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: a great deal of loss of property because La River 134 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: was a meandering river that would be over here one 135 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: day and over there, and farmers and people kind of 136 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: dealt with and built on higher up things like where 137 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: my house is now that's higher than this area. Yep, 138 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: you just walk from and so Army Corps of Engineers 139 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: channelize the river. That was what they thought was best 140 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: at the time. We know better now you can do 141 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: what they did in Scott Steale, Arizona and other places. 142 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: The big spreading basins you let the water spread out. 143 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: This Even if you're a swift water rescue navy seal 144 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: and you fall in this water, you might not make 145 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: it till they pull you out. Right. The water is 146 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: very cold in the wintertime and it goes very quickly, 147 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: and so it's like a freeway of death this water. 148 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: So what they're doing more of what they're already having 149 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: place now called Balbo Park. It's a wetland where the 150 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: water is spread out over a larger area, allowed to 151 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: do what its job is, which is to percolate down 152 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: and water table and do that. So we're attempting to 153 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: do what is downstream with here. Already there's a permeable bottom. 154 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: The sides are still channelized, but the bottom is not 155 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: and the water goes down and so that's not as 156 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: much a rush of water. As you go further downstream, 157 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: we're going to go up to the source of this nile, 158 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: if you will, the beginning of this La River in 159 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: Chatsworth in that area it's called Box Canyon up there 160 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: the west San Fernando Valley, and begin to you know, 161 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: break up the bottom of this La River. So it 162 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: begins to permeate down more and the more you do 163 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: that and continue to move eventually make it to the ocean, 164 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: Long Beach and places like that. With this all empties, 165 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, Biona Creek and Long Beach is where this 166 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: all empties, and it won't be so much volume of 167 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: water being wasted too. We can meet more than half 168 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: of LA's water needs by just collecting our water by 169 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: one having it go back in the water table, and 170 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: two to do what I'm doing at my house, which 171 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: is to let it all flow into a water tank 172 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: underd I have a ten thousand gallon water tank buried underground. 173 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: The water goes into that. Then I can use it 174 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: for emergencies, and I can certainly use it as I 175 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: do every day for irrigation. Wow, so'zingw did your wife 176 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: come along immediately in this passion kicking and screaming? I'd 177 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: say with the two words I remembered that in the 178 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: show was a little bit of kicking and screaming. Yeah, 179 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: But now she's along for the ride, isn't She definitely 180 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: is because a lot of it makes financial sense and 181 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: I finally seated control over stuff that I really didn't 182 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: have that big an interest in it. She didn't want 183 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: to see solar panels for some reason. I like the 184 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: look of them. I just do. But a lot of people, 185 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: like my wife doesn't. So they said, the architect in 186 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: her and the builder said, we're not going to see 187 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: any solar panels. I said, if you can pull it off, 188 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: that's great, because they're up on a flat roof. But 189 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: all they did was to build a parapet wall this big. 190 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm holding my fingers about five or six inches apart 191 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: right now, buzz, And that's all. A little wall that 192 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: tall is all that it does because the first solar 193 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: panel down at the bottom of it is just a 194 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: quarter inch below that lip, and then they go up 195 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: at an angle that you is a straight line from that, 196 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: so you can stand anywhere in the property and go this. 197 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: Sid Begley is a liar. He didn't have one solar 198 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: panel on that roof. You need a drone to fly 199 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: over head to see. I got lots of panels, got 200 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: nine kill wats, but the wife didn't want to see them. 201 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: And we can we can do that asthetics. We've got 202 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: beautiful you know, walls that are stuck on what have you. 203 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: She wanted that look of like French Mediterranean design. We 204 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: did all that but what's in the wall is mine. 205 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: I own that stuff in the wall, the insulation and 206 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: the thick walls that are twelve inches thick. So now 207 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: it's much easier to heat or cool that envelope. You know, 208 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: that very well sealed up home. So she gets what 209 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: she wants and I get what I want, which is 210 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: the gearhead stuff, the nuts and bolt stuff. And she's 211 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: in charge of aesthetics. Was there some counseling involved that 212 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: got you guys through very much? So we somehow made 213 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: it and nobody got hurt. Now she mus stronger than me. 214 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: You'll meet her in a minute. She can take me 215 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: pretty good at this point. Now, how did you get 216 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: involved with the passion that I could share with you 217 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: with the walden Woods project? Two words? Don Henley Don 218 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: is a dear friend of mine since the early seventies. 219 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: We met at the Troubadour Bar there and the Troubadour Club. 220 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: He was on stage. Wonderful guitarist, songwriter, drummer. He's a 221 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: brilliant musician and with Glenn Fry they wrote some great 222 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: great songs, I would say, and he's written some great 223 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: songs on his own. Two. Of course, he's a dear friend, 224 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: and he wanted to do something he had heard about, 225 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, this property that was going to be made 226 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: into like an industrial park or something, or they were 227 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: going to develop this area where Henry David Thrower wrote 228 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: and walked and lived. And so he thought, I was 229 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: like firing up a foundry in the Sistine Chapel, and 230 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: if we could save Walden maybe we could save other 231 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: places too. So he set about doing that. He enlisted 232 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: my help, and Bonnie Rait and James Taylor and lots 233 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: of friends and Sting and people over the years have 234 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: all helped and he's done a good job. It's one 235 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: of my favorite places to go take a walk. In fact, 236 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: the first two episodes of Taking a Walk actually were 237 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: recorded there. The first one was with Jeffrey Kramer, Oh yes, 238 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: I love Jeffrey Curator, and then the second one was 239 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: with a former morning host of mine from my radio days, 240 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Waldie Bryant. Do you 241 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: remember the first time you took a walk in the 242 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: Walden Pond area? It was with Don Henley and Kathy Anderson. 243 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: It was the first Walden Woods walk that we had. 244 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: We had an event there to raise money to buy 245 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: the land and we did. And you know, that was 246 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: I think that was the early nineties, like ninety one 247 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: or something like it. That sounds right, because I met 248 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: you and Don for the first time when I programmed 249 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: the classic rock station w ZLX, and you guys came 250 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: up and did an interview. So that was around that time. 251 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: That sounds like ninety two something like that. It was 252 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: not in Boston or Conqueror. That was in Boston, Yes, 253 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: I remember that now and then. And we ultimately met 254 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: at a Nikky Songash benefit and Conquered and that's right. 255 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: The Rasmussen's beautiful. I love them home there and I 256 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 1: knew Paul Songris too is a wonderful man. Wonderful man. Yeah, 257 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: So walking for you is important, very important. That's my 258 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: transportation hierarchy. I quite deliberately moved to an area where 259 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: I could walk to restaurants, walk to the bank, walk 260 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: to the post office. You know, that's my number one 261 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: formert I'm known for electric cars, but my number one 262 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: form of transportation is walking. Number two is my bike. 263 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: Number three is public transportation. So the electric car is 264 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: a distant fourth. And so you know, and I try 265 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: not to fly too. I can recently it's been a 266 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: lot easier because nobody was flying much. But I went 267 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: two and a half years recently without flying, and I 268 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: was very happy with that. So and does walking Does 269 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: it clear your head? If you're in a creative log gym, 270 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: it does. It's wonderful when you're writing or just going 271 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: about the business of living, going about the business of 272 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: the day, to just take a walk, let it all 273 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: peel away, and drink in the moments like this one 274 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: right now, where everything is perfect, of everything that I need. 275 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: The river is flowing, even though we haven't had much 276 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: rain light. You can see water down there that's coming 277 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: from something called the hyperion plant. They take all the 278 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: raw sewage in that end of the valley, well the 279 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: middle of the valley really is where it sits from 280 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: uphill there in the San Fernano Valley, and they treat 281 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: it so that is really nearly drinkable water. I suppose 282 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: you could drink it if you're in a real pinch, 283 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: but it's been fully purified in what have you, And 284 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: now it's part of the ecosystem. That water is running 285 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: year round because it's raw sewage, it's been cleaned and 286 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: so there's birds and other aquatic life that depend on 287 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: it now and it's not harming them. It's not toxic 288 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: the way it used to be because of the manner 289 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: in which they treat it. So and that's the important thing. 290 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: People have to realize. The environment isn't just Wallden Pond. 291 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: It isn't just you know, the rainforest in Brazil. That's 292 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: of course the environment. We have to protect that, that's essential, 293 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: But the environment is also here in this concrete This 294 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: is part of the environment. South Central is part of 295 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: the environment. You know, Love Canal is part of the environment. 296 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: We just need to set about cleaning up those things 297 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: where we've made a mess and protecting all the areas 298 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: this and everything that we have developed. We have to 299 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: make sure that it's in some kind of balance and 300 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: we can continue to live and thrive with what we 301 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: need from the natural world. So are you currently working 302 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: on any script processes for movies or television? These days, 303 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm writing. These days, I'm writing my memoir, I believe 304 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: it or not. I've finished it pretty much. I'll wait 305 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: and see what a book achor and a publisher has 306 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: to say about it. I'm certainly open to changes, but 307 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: I've finished it. It's, you know, fifty four thousand words 308 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: or something. I think that's a good length for a 309 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: book like that. And I've enjoyed writing it. To remember 310 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: all that's happened in the past seventy two years has 311 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: been a joy. And did you do that during the 312 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: last couple of years where you were particularly focused it? 313 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: I just started it just after Christmas and before New 314 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: Year's I just started a few months ago, and it 315 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: just poured out. You know, I just thought, Wow, one 316 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: event connected to another. And let me be clear here, 317 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: A lot of these are stories I've told many times 318 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: over the year. Is the story about Marlon Brand and 319 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: the electric eres Eels is the story I've told many times. 320 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: A story about you know, having a car accident on 321 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: Christmas Eve on Sunset Boulevard and Sam Vesandi, That's a 322 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: story I've told many times. And so I just wove 323 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: all those stories together in some hopefully coherent manner, and 324 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: pretty soon it's a book. And did you have fun 325 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: writing it? I had great fun because the process of 326 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: writing that stuff that's part of your life. The keyboard 327 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: becomes like a Ouiji board, but one that's not bogus, 328 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: one that actually works. Wait a minute, why am I 329 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: being pulled over here to this event? What's happening? The 330 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: Ouiji boards trying to tell me something? But it really 331 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: is one event connects to another. You open a door 332 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: where you haven't open in a while, and the process 333 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: of opening that or blows open other doors down that 334 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: same hallway that lead to things you haven't thought of 335 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 1: in fifty five years. Wow, that's outstanding. And do you 336 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: when you list some of the characters that you've played, 337 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: are their favorite characters in particular? I mean, there's so 338 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: many characters you have played it would take me days 339 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: to list them, But are their particular favorites of yours? 340 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: Just by the longevity of it, by the length of 341 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: it and the quality of it. Saint Elsewhere was a 342 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: great show, and that took place in Boston, of course, 343 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: and I was a California native, moved to Boston to 344 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: study medicine, and I did that show for six years, 345 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: you know, with Denzel Washington and Bonnie Bartlett and Bill 346 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: Daniels and Ed Flanders and Christina Pickles, wonderful actors all 347 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: David Morris, I mean the quality of the acting, the 348 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: quality of the directing, the quality of the writing. Bruce 349 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: Paltrow literally changed my life by giving me that job. 350 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: I didn't get the job I wanted. I wanted to 351 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: play doctor Peter White, but he got killed three years 352 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: in the show, and my character, which is a minor 353 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: character the pilot, like one or two lines, became one 354 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 1: of the major characters. Yeah, sometimes sometimes better if you 355 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: don't get what you want. Buzz wow. And what was 356 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: it like working with that whole crew around the Christopher 357 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: Guest monumentaries? How did you just get through without completely 358 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: being in stitches all the time. It's nearly impossible to 359 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: work with Eugene Levy and Catherine O'Hara. They're trying to 360 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: check into the hotel invest in show, and you know 361 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: there's no script, there's a treatment. You know that the 362 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: slug line that you have to operate off of is 363 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: Jaron cookie Fleck, which is Eugene and Catherine try to 364 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: check in the hotel. The credit card doesn't work. That's 365 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: all you have. But then you're dealing with those two 366 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: and look out, oh my god. And I would imagine 367 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: you were channeling in some instances, you know, hotel employees 368 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: check in that you probably had dealt with. Is that 369 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: exactly and trying not to do what they did in 370 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: so many bogus scenes and movies that I've seen, were sir, 371 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: your credit card doesn't work, and somebody's kind of when 372 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,360 Speaker 1: I've seen that happen, when somebody's credit card doesn't work, 373 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: or even mine didn't work, they're like, they pretend it's 374 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: not really happening there, anything but confrontational. I'm so it 375 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: must be the strip. Maybe it's the bad scrip. Let 376 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: me try to No, it's it's actually saying declined. Is 377 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: it possible They're not trying to, you know, make you 378 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: feel bad. They're trying to pretend it isn't happening to 379 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: help you feel better. So I try to use that 380 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,439 Speaker 1: as my guiding force with this and just keep it 381 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: real with those two with Eugene and Catherine, and and 382 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: then Michael McKean and Michael Higgins check into the hotel too, 383 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: and that just I mean, that was nearly impossible to 384 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: keep a straight straight face for those two. Oh wait, God, 385 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 1: do you watch your work from the past? Ever? I do. 386 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: I'm very objective about it. There's some stuff I don't like, 387 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: but I mostly like it because I work with good people. 388 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: It's not that I'm so good. I'm working with Eugene 389 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: Levy and Katherine Ahara. I'm working with Michael Hitchcock. You know. 390 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: I'm working with Michael Higgs and Michael McKean. You know, 391 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: Fred Willard, all these great actors, actresses, and the incredible 392 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: Chris Guests, you know, Parker Posey. For God's sake, I 393 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: just try to keep up with those two. I just 394 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: hang along, you know, hang on to them for the ride, 395 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: is what I do. Is there anybody that you haven't 396 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: worked with that you'd like to work with. There's a 397 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: Boomman at Burbank Studios at Warner Brothers I haven't worked with. 398 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: And there's a Dolly Grip of Twentieth I'm gonna have 399 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: lunch with them this week. I'm gonna put an end 400 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: to that. There's two people that I haven't met. I 401 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: was born here, Buzz. What am I gonna do? Born 402 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: here in forty nine at Hollywood Presbyterian Hospital. Doesn't get 403 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: any more Hollywood than that. How is Hollywood changed? It's 404 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 1: changed in some good ways. As I mentioned, there's a 405 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: lot less smog now because of everything we did right. 406 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of development there's sadly a lot of 407 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: problems with homeless people. Now. We need to find housing 408 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: for those people as best we can. It's a challenge. 409 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: Not everybody in LA wants to make room in their 410 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: neighborhood that so we're trying to be understanding of everybody's 411 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: position that and do it's best for all and hopefully 412 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: we'll get to that. So it changed a lot, but 413 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: there's a lot that's good. Besides clean air, there's more 414 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: opportunities for a lot of people that should have opportunities 415 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: years ago, you know, not just with voting, but access 416 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: to jobs and what have you. You know, I finally 417 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: became aware. I think I was thirty years old before 418 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: I really realized that I won the lottery being born 419 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: at Begley's Sun. I really think I was that old 420 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: a man to really something like thirty one. Wait a minute, 421 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: I got a great deal here being born his son. 422 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: A lot of people didn't have that kind of privilege 423 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: and that opportunity, and so that's being addressed now, and 424 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: I think that's a wonderful thing and long overdue. Who 425 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 1: were some of his friends that you remember meeting when 426 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: you were young? You know, I hadn't a clue who 427 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: I was meeting. Sometimes we would go and stop at 428 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: this couple's house in Santa Barbara. His name was Paul 429 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: and her name was Bella. The two of them lived 430 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: up there Barbon. It's like Dad, when I want to 431 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: ride the cable cars in San Francisco. When are we 432 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: going to get out of here? What time are we 433 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: going to leave? And they were talking about stuff, acting 434 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: perhaps and other things and just life, and I always 435 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: wanted to get away from that. It was Paul Muni, 436 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: the great actor, Paul Muni. I was in the presence 437 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: of greatness as a kid. You don't know that. So 438 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: then I cherished and tried to remember those stories. When 439 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: I realized who I was dealing with, I hadn't seen 440 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: fugitive from a chain Gang. I haven't seen. I didn't 441 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: see hearing my father on Broadway and Inherit the Wind, 442 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: for which they both won Tony So I was just 443 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: some guy. But he had a lot of normal friends too, 444 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: guys he worked with at a factory in Hartford, Connecticut, 445 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: where he was born, called the wire mold Factory, literally 446 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: the kind of conduit the molding that they had used 447 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: to run a wire like to an overhead fan or 448 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: to a light bulb in an office or a home. 449 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: It was called wire mold, it was, and you put 450 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: the wires in there. You didn't want them to short 451 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: out to be somebody to cut them accidentally, So they're 452 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: in this. And my dad worked at the wire mold 453 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: plant for so we had these friends that worked at 454 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: that plant with him. He was really basically a factory 455 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: worker that made it late in life, like when he 456 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 1: was about forty. You started to make it in radio 457 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: in Hartford, Connecticut. Then he went on to New York 458 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: and did better in radio, and he did stage plays 459 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: in New York, and then finally movies and he got 460 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: nominated for and won an Oscar for Sweep Bird of Youth. 461 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: So was Angry Man Man? Not a bad movie? What 462 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: a cast, What a wonderful movie. So grew up in Stanford, Connecticut, 463 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: by the way, and I started in radio actually in 464 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: that area Fairfield County, Connecticut. So where your father started 465 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: is kind of a special place. So that's great, Ti 466 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: s it's still there. It is w tic amn FM. Yeah, 467 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,719 Speaker 1: that's great. There was a guy named Bob Steele who 468 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,719 Speaker 1: used to work there. I think that name was familiar. 469 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: I think he was there sixty years before he ultimately 470 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: retired from Wow, from his craft. So when you think 471 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: of your start walking back, sure, when you think of 472 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: your craft, is there something that you haven't learned, maybe 473 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: that you like to learn. I really I'm enjoying life 474 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: right now. Whatever my position the food chain is, or 475 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, whatever work have before me. I feel like 476 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm right on schedule and I you know, I'm just 477 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: taking what comes my way. I'm not very aggressive about 478 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: seeking out parts. I'm very lucky in that people come 479 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: to me and ask me to play part X, Y 480 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: or Z, and I enjoy it. If I don't enjoy 481 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: what I'm reading, I won't do it. Of Course, I 482 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: don't have to audition aufmant often, which is nice. I 483 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: just get asked to do a role and I do it, 484 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: And you know, it's a pretty nice setup to still 485 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: be in Hollywood, still be working fifty five years later. 486 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: I just feel blessed. So when you think of the 487 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: world today, the conflict that's going on, the Ukraine conflict there, 488 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: which is just so horrible. When you consider what entertainment 489 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: means to people, now, how important is it in light 490 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: of the terrible things that are happening, you know, in 491 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: that war. I think entertainment has prevented tremendous value to people, 492 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: whatever situation they're in, if they're doing well or doing 493 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: so so, certainly doing poorly. I don't think the people 494 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: in Ukraine can really think much about entertainment right now. 495 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: They're just thinking about getting water and food and you know, 496 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: getting sheltered from the elements. But they'll come a time 497 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: where they will be able to appreciate art again. You know, 498 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they don't appreciate it now if they 499 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: just have other things to focus on. We need to 500 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: help them in every way that is humanly possible, and 501 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: there's relief organizations that want to do that. But sadly, 502 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: right now, as we walk along this river today, the 503 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: relief organizations are having a lot of trouble getting to 504 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: where they need to get to just because of infrastructure problems, 505 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: supply chain problems. To get enough old to get on 506 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: the bus it's going to get them there to give relief. 507 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: To get a truck loaded up with food or water 508 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: to get to the people, it's hard to get fueled 509 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 1: for that truck. Even so, we all need to pitch 510 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: in and every way we can and help those people 511 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 1: and help those relief organizations that can eventually do something 512 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: to better the lives of the folks in the Ukraine. Well. 513 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: And it's so important also to acknowledge how you know, 514 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: so many nonprofits have been challenged, certainly during the COVID crisis, 515 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: and I think there's so many of them that need help, 516 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: certainly because it's just been such a tough couple of years, 517 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: right it has. And I love the fact that Kathy 518 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: Anderson from the Walden Woods Project told me that during 519 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 1: COVID that the amount of people walking at Walden Pond 520 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: increased massively during the last couple of years. Wonderful because 521 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: people are seeking the outdoors and I didn't know that, buzz. 522 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: That's great news. So I think that is really outstanding news. 523 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: And I have to thank you so much for taking 524 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: a walk with me. I'm such an admirer of your work, 525 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: but I'm such an admirer also of what you're so 526 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: passionate about your activism and how you bring it forward 527 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: to people with honesty and dignity. And I'm just so 528 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: grateful that you and I got to take a walk 529 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: here in the studio City. Me too, buzz It's really 530 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: great to see you again. Taking a walk with Buzznight 531 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: is available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get 532 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: your podcasts.