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Speaker 1: This is one Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Good Evening Bill's Mafia. Glad to have you with us

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Speaker 2: for the third consecutive primetime game for Buffalo as the

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Speaker 2: three and oh Bills visit the one in two Ravens.

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Speaker 2: Here in Baltimore, Maryland, here's a snap handoff goes to

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Speaker 2: Henry through a hole on the right side, and he's

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Speaker 2: off and running off to the races to the forty fifteen.

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Speaker 2: In pursuit is Cam Lewis and Damar Hamlin.

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna get him.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna go the distance eighty seven yards for the touchdown.

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Speaker 5: On the first play from scrimmage, Jackson back to pass

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Speaker 5: goes to Henry, who's gonna waltz into the end zone

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Speaker 5: for a five yard touchdown reception.

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Speaker 2: All kinds of time and opening the.

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Speaker 6: End zone is Justice Hill, who beats Dorian Williams and

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Speaker 6: it is a touchdown nineteen yards. Back to pass, looking

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Speaker 6: to his right pocket collapsing pumps, rolls out to his

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Speaker 6: right to buy time looking for anybody.

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Speaker 2: He's He's got Shakir Deep at.

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Speaker 4: The twenty tot fifteen ten and tackled at the four

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Speaker 4: yard line. It's first in gold Buffalo as Allen.

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Speaker 2: Makes a huge offscript play. Here's the snap and off

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Speaker 2: to Johnson, gonna outside.

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Speaker 4: It's a race to the pylon and he is in

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Speaker 4: and Buffalo is in business. A three yard touchdown run

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Speaker 4: by Ty Johnson and they're up off the fence on

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Speaker 4: the Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Sideline and off goes to hill.

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Speaker 6: Nope, it's kept by Jackson and he's gonna race to

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Speaker 6: the pylon and he's in for the touchdown. A nine

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Speaker 6: yard touchdown run by Lamar Jackson. Your final here in Baltimore,

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Speaker 6: Ravens thirty five, Bill's ten. That is your game rewind

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Speaker 6: Sign up to donate at connectlife dot org. And uh boy,

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Speaker 6: after that one, it's gonna be hard to stomach.

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Speaker 2: But you gotta use the twenty four hour rule, just

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Speaker 2: like the players do. Regroup, get ready for another road

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Speaker 2: game at Houston this week. So the reset button's going

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Speaker 2: to have to be hit after the corrections are made today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it happened. I've said this a lot, and

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Speaker 3: BROWNI you've heard me say it's easier for the players

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Speaker 3: and coaches and the staff and the people inside this

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Speaker 3: building to let go if this they got too much

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Speaker 3: work to the scar. Yeah, the scar tissue is very minimal.

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Speaker 3: They'll come in and suffer through watching that tape and

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Speaker 3: they'll make some adjustments and they'll think about what they did.

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Speaker 3: The coaches will be very forthright in what they tell

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Speaker 3: the players to like, Hey, we should have had this

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Speaker 3: in our game plan. We should have had that in

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Speaker 3: our game plan. We shouldn't. This was a bad call here,

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Speaker 3: This was a good call here. We got to play

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Speaker 3: better here, We got to do that. They'll make all

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Speaker 3: the corrections, both from the coaching staff all the way

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Speaker 3: through the players, and they'll all be in on that

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Speaker 3: same page. But it's all about next week now, and

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Speaker 3: the players and coaches don't. They don't linger. Man, they

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Speaker 3: don't have time for it. And if I was going

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Speaker 3: to give Bill's Mafia anything to chew on, that would

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Speaker 3: be it take a deep breath and start doing what

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Speaker 3: it is you do to get ready for Houston. And

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Speaker 3: that's because you got to keep the season keeps rolling.

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Speaker 3: Bad night at the office for the Bills last night,

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Speaker 3: no question about it. And that was and I'll say

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Speaker 3: this too, you got to tip your hat to the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: You know, they're a good organization. Their head coach is

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Speaker 3: the second longest tenured head coach in the National Football League,

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Speaker 3: behind his division mate Mike Tomlin. He's been around a

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Speaker 3: long time, won a Super Bowl. They've got a they

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Speaker 3: are a solid, well run organization. You know they're going

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Speaker 3: to be there. They've got a two time defending MVP

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Speaker 3: at quarterback. You knew it was going to be a

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Speaker 3: tough game going in there. And I I I was

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Speaker 3: talking to Maddie before this game last night. Brownie, you

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Speaker 3: know how I am. I'm mister positive spin. It occurred

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Speaker 3: to me last night and it's almost I went back

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Speaker 3: and kind of checked my notes. Every time I feel

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Speaker 3: I every time, I like, I have doubt. I had

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Speaker 3: doubts about the Jacksonville game. I had doubts about the

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Speaker 3: telling you? And we go out and wash them? This one.

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Speaker 3: I talked myself into, you know, what, were the number

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Speaker 3: one offense in the league. We got it, you know,

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Speaker 2: That was a little reary because, as I had said

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Speaker 2: last week, the Bills historically have put good game plans

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Speaker 2: together for Lamar Jackson, but not both of them at

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Speaker 2: the same time. That was my concern because there is

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Speaker 2: so much you have to do to contain Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 2: slow down Derrick Henry. So to cover all those bases

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Speaker 2: going to be a chore, and it proved to be.

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Speaker 2: I mean, say what you will. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: the Bills played their best game, if they still would

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Speaker 2: have won that game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have been a closer game. Anythink too,

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Speaker 3: And I've said this a couple of times as well.

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Speaker 3: that one and that one and that one would have

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Speaker 3: different Yeah. Maybe. If you know, everybody's talking about Keon's

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Speaker 3: deep ball down the sideline. You're talking about the trick

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Speaker 3: play that went haywire and we lost the ball on it.

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Speaker 3: You're talking about, you know, missed field goal from Tyler Bass.

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Speaker 3: from the just inside their territory. There's all this stuff. Anythink, Well,

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Speaker 3: if all that maybe maybe, but Baltimore would have, you know,

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Speaker 3: had answers for some of that anyway, and we'll never know.

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Speaker 3: But that was a bad night at the office. There's

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Speaker 3: questioning about it, top to bottom. And tip your hat

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Speaker 3: to the Ravens for being better prepared. Certainly playing at

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Speaker 3: home helps. We've seen that even with our with the Bills.

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Speaker 3: So but if you're not going to force Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 3: to throw the football more than nineteen times, something's going wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not efficient in another area, and that was

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Speaker 2: as we're taking your biggest takeaways from the thirty five

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Speaker 2: three games in which the Bills lost by more than

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Speaker 2: one possession. So you're talking a span of forty.

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Speaker 3: Just regular season games, yes.

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Speaker 2: Forty three regular season games, so you're talking about three years.

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Speaker 2: And not coincidentally, that game that was lost to the

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Speaker 2: similar to this one. The Indianapolis Colts had Carson Wentz

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Speaker 2: throwed twenty times in the game, Jonathan Taylor had five touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: ran for one hundred and eighty five yards, and largely

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Speaker 2: the Bills did not have an answer for that. They

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Speaker 2: did not have a good answer for Derek Henry last night,

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Speaker 2: as we know, and we see this crop up every

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Speaker 2: at the line of scrimmage and just get bullied. And

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Speaker 2: that team bullied them on both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 2: and to me, it was not It didn't look like

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Speaker 2: a fair fight. They were getting driven off the line

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Speaker 2: just called all the right shots, and sometimes you have

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Speaker 2: a night like that. The Bills had day like that

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Speaker 2: last week against the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Jaguars played into

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Speaker 2: the scoreboard. I think that also happened last night, just

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Speaker 2: in the opposite direction. A lot of what Baltimore called

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Speaker 2: very first play of the game, got the look that

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Speaker 2: they wanted. Bills in nickel defense. They run a trap play.

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Speaker 2: He gets trapped, blocked, the other blockers climbed to the

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Speaker 2: did not get touched on that play.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I'll say this too, during the course of

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Speaker 3: that game, you saw something we talk about a lot

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Speaker 3: in the matchups. When you can run the football, and

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Speaker 3: this is Bill's running game. When you can run the

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Speaker 2: Well, and that what That's what happened for the rest

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Speaker 2: of the the rest of the first half, at least,

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Speaker 2: maybe even longer. The Bills were suddenly hesitant on defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah they're not, they're not. Yeah, they're not rushing the.

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Speaker 2: Play like that'll do that to you.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and not only that play, but the rest of

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Speaker 3: them as well. Plus you know, you've got Lamar and

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Speaker 3: the Ravens run game. Now that one was a kind

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Speaker 3: of a straight ahead trap play, let's go. They also

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Speaker 3: have a lot of running plays where they get moving

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Speaker 3: laterally and they got all this stuff going on like this,

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Speaker 3: guys are taking a false step here and they're missing

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Speaker 3: you know, they can't get back to make the tackle

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Speaker 3: over there. You know, you knew this. The Ravens run

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Speaker 3: lot of really really good players doing it. So if

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Speaker 3: you can't get them out of that, it's going to

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Speaker 3: be a long night. And it certainly was.

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Speaker 2: One of the things they have done more of each

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Speaker 2: of the last two games last night, most so far

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Speaker 2: this season is putting Jackson under center and running more

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Speaker 2: play action. And when you get an eighty seven yard

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Speaker 2: touchdown on your first play from the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 2: you better run play action because you're gonna get linebackers biting,

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Speaker 2: hook line and sinker. And they did that, and it

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Speaker 2: opened up the middle of the field in the few

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Speaker 2: times that Lamar Jackson decided to throw the ball, so

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Speaker 2: he had all the time in the world, and there

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Speaker 2: were a lot of voids in the defense because of

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Speaker 2: the play action game that they ran. It wasn't all

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Speaker 2: the time because Lamar likes to operate in the shotgun.

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Speaker 2: But it was just a bad night all the way around.

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Speaker 2: And it was a near perfect night for Baltimore. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's kind of how it went.

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Speaker 3: If you're gonna beat Baltimore, and I think the Bills

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Speaker 3: kind of learned. It was obviously a hard lesson last night,

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Speaker 3: but if you're gonna beat him in the Dallas game,

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Speaker 3: Lamar through fifteen times. Last night he threw nineteen times.

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Speaker 3: There's the answer right there. Make him drop back thirty

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Speaker 3: thirty five times, right, I mean, you've got it, And

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Speaker 2: But you're gonna have to get extreme.

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Speaker 2: And look, I don't like giving credit to Belichick either

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a two weeks had won that was only

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Speaker 3: The way Baltimore is built, it's a physical mismatch, so

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Speaker 2: But that's just the point. You had ten defensive linemen

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Speaker 3: Usually didn't. But there's only four of them on the

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Speaker 2: Not don't have to be Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But you could could and probably should have last night. Anything.

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Speaker 2: Say, it doesn't have to be four, it can be more.

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Speaker 2: What were your biggest takeaways from the Bills thirty five

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Speaker 2: ten loss to the Ravens. You let us know at

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Speaker 2: eight five fifty two five fifty those are the numbers

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Speaker 2: to join us, and we do have open lines for you.

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Speaker 2: We lead off today with Kevin and Hamburg. What do

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Speaker 2: you got for us? Kevin, you're all one Bill's life.

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Speaker 9: For taking my call. Sure bring up something you said

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Speaker 9: bad and forty three games regal sheet and the way

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Speaker 9: we're out man about the cult game, but the way

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Speaker 9: were and Steve, I hate to bring it up because

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Speaker 9: it was a super Bowl you played in, but the

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Speaker 9: way they all made us it kind of reminds us

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Speaker 9: of the Hogs Super Bowl when we couldn't get past

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Speaker 9: that offensive line. They might as well have been the

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Speaker 9: Hogs with Raven helmets, the way they pushed us around

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Speaker 9: and over manned us. And another thing on offense, you

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Speaker 9: can't play those tinking dunk plays with that awesome zone

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Speaker 9: and then we did it, and they'd come up and

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Speaker 9: blast us, and we cannot even hardly get to Lamar.

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Speaker 9: I think one time we got to him because that

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Speaker 9: fumble was outside the pockets. So it's just the way

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Speaker 9: we're out man, and especially yes, compared to the Cult

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Speaker 9: And we gotta fix that up because teams are gonna know, Okay,

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Speaker 9: that's how we beat Buffalo, we'll do what Baltimore did.

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Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, that's not that easy.

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Speaker 3: It's not that easy. Both. Like we've been talking about, Kevin,

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Speaker 3: thanks for the call. Baltimore's built different with personnel and

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Speaker 3: roster choices. They do things differently there. When they pick

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Speaker 3: their roster, they get big bodies. They got a three

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Speaker 3: hundred pounds full back for goodness sake. They do things differently.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna be I mean, Miami couldn't run that.

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Speaker 3: Miami couldn't do that to the Bills. They don't have

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Speaker 3: the people, they don't have the bodies. Yeah, they got

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Speaker 3: fifty three guys, but you're you're talking about switching out,

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Speaker 3: So I mean, it's it's just not gonna It's not

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Speaker 3: possible for the teams to do it. That's why Baltimore

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Speaker 3: is a tough matchup for all these teams. And you

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Speaker 3: games after they say, okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, we really

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Speaker 3: got to what's going on here? They get caught off guard.

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Speaker 3: It happened to the Dallas Cowboys. It happened to Buffalo

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Speaker 3: last night, and then of course in week two, I.

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Speaker 2: Believe it was they lost to the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: The Raiders they got beat. So you've got to catch

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Speaker 3: it and realize that it is. The film doesn't do

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Speaker 3: it justice. You got to have bodies to stop it.

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Speaker 3: You got to kind of exaggerate your effort and your

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Speaker 2: You are right, though, the underneath passing game does not

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Speaker 2: And as Eric would and I said going into the

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Speaker 2: you to consistently stay ahead of the sticks. And that

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Speaker 2: was the problem, and it's why the Bills, part and

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Speaker 2: Parcel were three of thirteen on third down last night.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and we go to

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Speaker 2: Mike in Pennsylvania next. What do you got for us?

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Speaker 10: Mike, Hey, guys, happy Monday. Not the Monday we wanted.

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Speaker 10: But you know, I had two key points going into

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Speaker 10: time again, I've seen us, you know, be aggressive and

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Speaker 10: then in the game like yesterday, fourth and one, fourth

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Speaker 10: to question again, is this more of a McDermott And

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Speaker 10: Is it a McDermott just doesn't stack up to the competition,

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Speaker 10: or is this I mean, what are your guys' thoughts

432
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 10: on them punning away when you know fourth and one,

433
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 10: fourth and two?

434
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing too, and I'm not it's hard

435
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 3: to know this definitively. One of the things I notice is, yeah,

436
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 3: you can always go back after the fact and say, hey,

437
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 3: you know, they should have gone for here. He'd like

438
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 3: to see what would have happened if they would have

439
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 3: gone forth there on a fourth and two there early

440
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: in the game. And I get and not only that

441
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 3: they had just done it and gotten it three plays before,

442
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 3: so they it would have been two fourth downs in

443
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 3: a row. Let alone the fact that they are you know,

444
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: perfect on the ear on fourth down going into that play,

445
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 3: Going into that play, how you know how often you

446
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 3: gonna go to that go to that well, certainly as

447
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 3: a head coach, probably you have more faith in your

448
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: defense than most casual fan does. Particularly as a defensive

449
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 3: head coach, you feel like you've got some answers, and

450
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 3: despite what happened to them in that game, you probably

451
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 3: feel like, we're gonna, you know, well, we're gonna be

452
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 3: even I don't know if this was this was after,

453
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: this was before the eighty five yard right, this was

454
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 3: right after after? Was it after? It was the first

455
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 3: first drive? So they didn't They probably felt like they

456
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 3: were gonna be okay. Defensively, they had a plan. So

457
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 3: at that point, you already got one fourth down and

458
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 3: this one was a little bit He's thinking, you know what,

459
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 3: we got a we got a defensive game plan. Let's go.

460
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 2: We have the field position edge. Now let's pin deep

461
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 2: and play defense.

462
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: And that's that. That field position was gotten by the

463
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 3: other fourth down. They got, so all of.

464
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Speaker 2: That the game see to I think the mistake you're making,

465
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: Mike is you're shrinking the game down to a couple

466
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: of fourth down decisions, And a couple of fourth down

467
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: decisions did not determine the outcome of this game. The

468
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 2: ultimate thing that determined the outcome of this game was

469
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 2: a poor level of execution, some poor scheming at times,

470
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: and some poor play calling at times. It all got

471
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: rolled in to the stew. Everything got thrown in the

472
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 2: pot last night. From the Bills perspective, they did not

473
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: scheme it up best. They did not game plan their best,

474
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: they did not adjust their best, they did not execute

475
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: at their best. And I mean you can run down

476
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 2: the list. I mean, coach McDermott said it right after

477
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: the game. We got out coached, we got outplayed, and

478
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 2: we got out schemed. They did. And that's what it's

479
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 2: going to look like in a league like the NFL,

480
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 2: where the competition level is as stiff as it is.

481
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: I mean, the Ravens beat the Bills by twenty five,

482
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 2: lost to the Raiders at home by three. I mean

483
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 2: that just gives you a small sample size of the

484
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 2: competition level of the NFL. Raiders might not be a

485
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: playoff team this year, but they're competitive. And if you're

486
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: not at your best, which the Ravens weren't that day.

487
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: They got beat at home by a Raiders team that's

488
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 2: gonna be lucky to win eight games this year. That's

489
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: the level of competition in this league. You don't bring

490
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: it every week, you're gonna get embarrassed.

491
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh mentioned it as well. He said, they we

492
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 3: just they out energied us, you know, and you can't

493
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 3: This urgency was the word Josh used. And I get it.

494
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: You go into that game feeling pretty good and like, okay,

495
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 3: let's just cruise through this and see if we can

496
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: get started, and then you know, kind of turn it

497
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: on as we go, and it doesn't work that way.

498
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 3: The Ravens came out flying and punched him in the

499
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: mouth and it took them a minute just to get

500
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 3: of themselves and they never really recovered. Now, I certainly

501
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 3: had a chance to get back in if they got

502
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: the touchdown, got up to twenty one to ten, you think, okay,

503
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: here we go. And then the next series and then

504
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: they got a three and out, and the next series

505
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 3: they got two three and outs in a row. The

506
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: next series, you know, they turn it over on the

507
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: on the trick play. And I think one of the

508
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: things about this offensive performance last night was the fact

509
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: that Josh got pressured a lot more than we have

510
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: seen him get pressured, and he had no place to

511
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: go with the football. He was looking for somebody and

512
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 3: he couldn't find anybody and a lot of times, so

513
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 3: that to me is concerning.

514
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: And Steve and I have talked a long time about

515
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: how the Ravens play defense. They are a clutch and

516
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: grab defense. They dare the officials to throw a flag

517
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: on every single play because they know they won't because

518
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 2: it'll it'll slog the game down so badly that they're

519
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: just not going to do it. So they play clutch

520
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: and grab defense. On the back end, getting separation is

521
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: supremely difficult, and their pass rush gets home. Now, all

522
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: that being said, their offensive line got beat, their defensive

523
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: line got outplayed, and that makes it very hard to

524
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: stay on schedule on offense and put defense put opposing

525
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: offenses in conflict by putting them behind the sticks. So

526
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 2: a line of scrimmage battle was the tipping point, and

527
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: then it kind of all slid downhill. Yeah, from there, I.

528
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 3: Thought the Ravens' ability to get pressure on Josh, particularly

529
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 3: on crucial downs, was.

530
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 2: A key to keeping them up the score and the

531
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: numbers after the game. It happened on fifteen to thirty

532
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: four dropbacks. That's not just scheme and that's not just execution.

533
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: There are some protection errors there as well. Every so

534
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: often you're gonna have a guy come free, and then

535
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: it's Josh's job to avoid that player or recognize who's

536
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: hot to beat the guy coming free. That happened far

537
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: more often than just the two or three times that

538
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: may happen in a game. And it's because there were

539
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: protect There were protection errors made pre snap, you know,

540
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: in the game yesterday. That's why there was so much pressure.

541
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: For last thing, the stat and I've been talking about

542
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 3: a little bit here, the specifics of it. In the

543
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: first two games, the Ravens are zero and two. They

544
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: threw it forty one times against Kansas City and thirty

545
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: four times against Vegas. Against Dallas they threw it fifteen times.

546
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 3: Against Buffalo they threw it nineteen times.

547
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 2: That's their formula.

548
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 3: That's what you've got to get them to do to

549
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 3: beat them. Let them throw the football. They're just not

550
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: efficient enough.

551
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: Ye break time for us here, but more of your

552
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: phone calls when we return. We'll lead off with Joe

553
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: and Buffalo and others holding at eight h three H

554
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: five fifty as we get your biggest takeaways from the

555
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 2: Bill's loss to the Ravens in Baltimore. Last night. More

556
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: of your phone calls. Next here on one, Bill's live

557
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: stay with us. Back to pass friars out to the

558
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: left side, back shoulder throw is complete. Keyon Coleman with

559
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: a back shoulder reception. Brandon Stevens on the tackle, but

560
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: it's a big first down that'll move the stick. This

561
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 2: week's Player of the Game is Bill's wide receiver Keon Coleman.

562
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: Player of the Game presented by Wegmans, the official tailgate

563
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 2: headquarters of the Buffalo Bills. Get your Deon Dawkins Buffalo

564
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: snow Crunch Cereal exclusively at Wegmans while supplies last. A

565
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: portion of the proceeds will benefit Dion's Dreamers, an official

566
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: foundation of Dion Dawkins. Coleman with three receptions for fifty

567
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 2: one yards last night. Obviously, some irate fans were dinging

568
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: him for the one drop that he did have, but

569
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: did make some high difficulty receptions in this game for

570
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: you know, some first downs, moving the sticks, keeping some

571
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: drives alive.

572
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 3: The three grabs he made were really pretty good. And

573
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 3: you know, obviously everybody always remembers the one I should dart,

574
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: and I wish you'd have caught the first one. But nevertheless,

575
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: he bounced back from it and played well the rest

576
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: of the game, caught every target remaining to him. And

577
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: these back shoulder throws, that's kind of what we think

578
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 3: ought he was going to be good at. And I

579
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: said this too. Sometimes for some guys, this back shoulder throw,

580
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 3: as tough as that catch is with Peter's hanging all

581
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 3: over him, is that Peter's.

582
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: Or it's Brandon Stevens.

583
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: Stevens, Brandon Stevens hanging all over him. Sometimes for wide outs,

584
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: those are easier catches than the over the head ones

585
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 3: that are dropped right into the bucket, like the one

586
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: he dropped. You know you've seen. We'll think about it.

587
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: James Cook over the shoulder, he dropped three of them

588
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: last year. Tried to go into the end zone over

589
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: the head, coming down where that classic Willie Mays type catch,

590
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 3: running away, catching it over the top of your head.

591
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: The ball's harder to track. Guys struggle with it. But

592
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: when they turn around and they got a guy on

593
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 3: him and they can see the ball into their hands, yeah,

594
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 3: it's it's just an easier catch sometimes, And it's crazy

595
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: because the one is the over the shoulder catch seemed

596
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: easier than that one than all three that he made. Otherwise,

597
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: it's just a different it's a I don't know, there's

598
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: you know, you got to catch all of them, particularly

599
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: the ones that that first drop that he had and

600
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 3: Chris Collinsworth was all over and I know a lot

601
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: of people love him, a lot of people hate him.

602
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 3: He was on the money with that. Josh put that one.

603
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: That was a dick. He was a dixie cup man.

604
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: He put it right in and uh and I know

605
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: Keon you could tell he was you gotta catch that, man.

606
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: He is bummed. I've been there, man, I've those like

607
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: he's just shaking. He's shaking his head at himself that

608
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 3: because that ball was right there. Those are the ones

609
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: that when you think about your day. He could have

610
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 3: caught three touchdowns. He'd still think about that one. That's

611
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 3: what you do when you're laying in bed at night,

612
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 3: you can't go to sleep.

613
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: Eric Henry was thinking about his fumble into the end zone. Yeah,

614
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: fortunately it was still a touchdown for Baltimore for their sake,

615
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 2: but he said, I'm gonna be thinking about that at night.

616
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: And that's a guy that had one hundred and ninety

617
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: nine yards and two touchdowns and they'd be thinking about

618
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: that one. But that's what makes the great ones great.

619
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones at eight oh three

620
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: oh five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

621
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: five fifty open line for you there, and we lead

622
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: off this segment with Joe and Buffalo. What do you

623
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: got for us?

624
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 11: Joe, Hi, thanks for taking mc carl. You know, the

625
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 11: reading I did on the game from the analysts suggest

626
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 11: that the key to the game was to stop the run.

627
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 11: I think you guys know that you're a lot more

628
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 11: experience than I am, and they still came out playing

629
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 11: that light box and they got burned for eighty seven yards.

630
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 11: He burned us when he was with Tennessee too. I

631
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 11: remember a long run in a Tennessee game and I

632
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 11: really questioned David's ability to adjust. It isn't so much

633
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 11: the eighty seven yards, although that hurt, but he picked

634
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 11: up another one hundred and twenty on top of that.

635
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 11: And you guys have a better eye than I do.

636
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 11: What you're thinking with respect to the game plan to

637
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 11: stop the run and they're in and I don't say

638
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 11: they're in ability to adjust, but what appears to be

639
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 11: the failure to adjust and just shut it down. I mean,

640
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 11: you're down seven to nothing, okay, but you know the

641
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 11: the game just got away from them in the second quarter, Yeah, I.

642
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: Would say, and two they finally they did. And I

643
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 3: say finally, but I think Taylor Rap only played what

644
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 3: he usually plays, the ninety five or nine one hundred

645
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: percent of the snaps defensively, Taylor Rap played twenty eight percent.

646
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 3: That was that first quarter. A quarter and a half.

647
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 3: It took them. And here's the thing, too. You feel

648
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 3: like you give up one play. It's like, well, wait

649
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 3: a minute, here, let's go out and just and you

650
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: don't just after just one play, even if it's a

651
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 3: big one, you say, okay, let's come on, let's settle

652
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: down and play. And then you still can't do it.

653
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: Then you adjust, which they did. They got out of

654
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: their nickel, got into their base defense, and I'm kind

655
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 3: of with you. I still didn't like the way their

656
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 3: run game was being handled, and I wish they would

657
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: adjusted one step further. Big, bigger, get another big body

658
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: on the field. And I don't even know. I don't know.

659
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 3: I'm not well versed enough in defensive philosophies to know

660
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 3: what that would mean. But to me, you gotta go

661
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: until not only do you stop it, but it is stuffed,

662
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 3: and then they've got to do something else completely for

663
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 3: the rest of the game. Can never come back to it.

664
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 3: And then you got to do what you can with

665
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: what they have to beat you with. I don't you

666
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: didn't test Baltimore in multiple ways that they could beat you.

667
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 3: They ran the ball, beat you. That was it. They

668
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 3: never got out of it. They never had to. They

669
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: threw the ball nineteen times. That was it.

670
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: They were one dimensional by choice because they didn't get

671
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: forced to do anything else.

672
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 3: You have to force them into different choices. And the

673
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 3: Bills never were never able to.

674
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 2: I mean, even when they did get in a few

675
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: third and longs one third and eleven, the defense opens

676
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 2: up completely in the middle. It was clearly a misdassignment

677
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: and Lamar says, oh, okay, thanks, I'll just run for

678
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: twelve yards and get the first down on a draw.

679
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: And there was a third and fourteen that they converted.

680
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: Also because they couldn't get any pressure on the quarterback.

681
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: I mean, the line of scrimmage battle was just not good.

682
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: It was heavily hilted in favor of Baltimore on both

683
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: offense and defense, and you got to be better up there.

684
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: And maybe it happens by putting bigger bodies and more

685
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: bigger bodies out there, just to try to get that

686
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: under control and force them to do something else. To

687
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 2: Mark in Jersey City, next, what's up Mark?

688
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 12: Good afternoon, gentlemen. I won't the smircht Derrick Henry ever again.

689
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 12: He took that first one, and I remember my call

690
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 12: and I'm like, oh boy, I should have kept my

691
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 12: mouth shut.

692
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 13: Yeah.

693
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 12: But on the other side, I felt like the Bills

694
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 12: are running the ball fine, they just chose not to.

695
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 12: I'm like, if you want to get Baltimore out of

696
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 12: tea and off on Josh there it was. I mean,

697
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 12: every time Cook got the ball, was he not making hang?

698
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he averaged four point six in the game.

699
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 12: He and that keeps you balance, That keeps them, you know,

700
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 12: semi respectful. They were just going empty. They had Josh

701
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 12: and Shotgun. There wasn't a lot of under center. I

702
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 12: didn't think I saw much last night CB. It was

703
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 12: just just them and empty and shotgun and a lot

704
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 12: of Curtis Samuel and just the misopportunities. The context of

705
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 12: the game, they get that turnover. I think they got

706
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 12: one first down and punted. Then Holman doesn't come up.

707
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 14: With that catch.

708
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 12: That was right before half. They had three timeouts in

709
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 12: the bag.

710
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 15: They had to go in with.

711
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 12: And even if they get a field goal on that

712
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 12: when they're marching down before that boondoggle level play, the

713
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 12: game would have been thirteen to twenty one at that point.

714
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and they just get a field goal, right.

715
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 12: Yeah, they do that to themselves, and then they don't

716
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 12: fall on the fumble in the in the end zone.

717
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 12: I mean a yard gets his hand up and just

718
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 12: little dumb things like smooth me and that guy in

719
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 12: the head.

720
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, not smart.

721
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 12: The Bills just did it to themselves last night. And

722
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 12: granted the linebacker's eyes were totally messed up in the

723
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 12: first half, like you guys have been saying, there just

724
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 12: wasn't a good plan. The physicality the game was not

725
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 12: the level it should have been last night, only into

726
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 12: the second half. So yeah, I think that was more

727
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 12: Baltimore was really good, but the Bills really helped beat

728
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 12: themselves last night.

729
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think if they played their best, I'm not

730
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: sure they still would have won, but it would have

731
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: been a one score game, which is kind of what

732
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: I expected. I thought it was going to be a

733
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: tight game, one score game, and Baltimore at home in

734
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: primetime is tough. They're now twenty one to three in

735
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 2: their last twenty four primetime home games. It is a

736
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 2: difficult place to play, and that team plays more physical

737
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: at home, I believe, than they do on the road,

738
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 2: just because of the atmosphere that's created there. It's really

739
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 2: great for the Ravens. So I was anticipating a tight game,

740
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: but I very well thought the Bills could have dropped

741
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: a decision there, but their lack of execution, getting out

742
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: scheme to a certain extent, and getting out coach to

743
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: a certain extent. Even as Sean McDermott said after the game,

744
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 2: I think it exacerbated what the final score was because

745
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: I think even the Ravens will tell you that they

746
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: are not twenty five points better than the Buffalo Bills.

747
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll run down some quotes after the game.

748
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: Dereck Henry. He basically said, I don't think we were

749
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: trying to focus on that. He said, she said about

750
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: the Bills being the best team in the NFL. I

751
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: think we're focused on being one to Oho this week

752
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: each week. The Bills are a great team. They've been

753
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: hitting on all cylinders. We played a great game against

754
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: them tonight. We were the better team tonight. But I'm

755
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: sure they'll fix things in the next coming weeks. There

756
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: is respect for the Bills as a very good football team,

757
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 2: even from the team that just beat them by twenty five.

758
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: I mean, Ada Fay always says, the win means a lot.

759
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: It's a big ass win. It's a very very good

760
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: win against a good team. The Bills are respected in

761
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: this league as a very good quality football team. They

762
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: just got them. They just got them in every way,

763
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: shape or form that night.

764
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bills just weren't good enough. And Josh said it.

765
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 3: He said we'd need to match their sense of urgency,

766
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 3: and that means that means in the run up to

767
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: the game as well. Certainly you would expect a team

768
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: like Buffalo, with Josh and McDermott and these guys, to

769
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: turn it up a notch this week during the US

770
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: as a wake up call. We'll learn what they can learn.

771
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: You've got you still got a young defensive coordinator and

772
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: all of this stuff. They're all going to do some

773
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 3: some self scouting and try and get better from it.

774
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: But like like we said at the beginning of the show,

775
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 3: they're looking at Houston.

776
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 8: Now.

777
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: This game, probably as of earlier today, is probably behind them.

778
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: They probably watched the film already as a team, watched

779
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 3: it as a group's position. Groups got coached up, had

780
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: dissected it, and are moving forward as you would expect

781
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: them to. But yeah, this was Yeah, they got punched

782
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 3: in the mouth last night and quite frankly, I think

783
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 3: even they would say they deserved it.

784
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, but still taking your

785
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 2: phone calls. Alex in Rochester will lead us off when

786
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: we return. Still some open lines for you at eight

787
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: h three zero five point fifty one eight eight eight

788
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty if you want to chime

789
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: in on your takeaways from last night's loss to the Ravens.

790
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: More of your phone calls next year. On One Bill's Live,

791
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: presented by Colid of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. The

792
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 2: numbers that matter are presented by the New York Lottery,

793
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: backing the bills sounds grand like the new Grand Scratch

794
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: off games from the New York Lottery, giving you a

795
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 2: chance to strut the red carpet at the Billboard Latin

796
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: Music Week gambling problem called one eight seven seven eight

797
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: Hope and why. According to next Gen Stats, Josh Allen

798
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: was point nine yards away from the sideline when he

799
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: threw a fifty two yard completion to Khalil Shakir against

800
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 2: the Ravens. Since entering the NFL in twenty eighteen, Allen

801
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: has completed six of seven passes for one hundred and

802
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: eighteen yards and three touchdowns within a yard of the sideline.

803
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: The rest of the NFL is one for sixteen. That's

804
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: a heck of a stat it is. Can't live that way,

805
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: you can't.

806
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 3: But every so often he pulls one of these off,

807
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: and the only thing I worry about is him getting

808
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: clobbered up over there on the sideline.

809
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 2: Yep.

810
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 3: Just unbelievable play.

811
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna take a wild guest here, Steve

812
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: that because the New York Lottery is giving you a

813
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: chance to strut the red carpet at the Billboard Latin

814
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: Music Week, that it's grande, not grand so, my bad grande,

815
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: the grande scratch off games from the New York Lottery.

816
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: Oh all right.

817
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: It is also Hispanic Heritage month. So I'm gonna guess Grondeidi,

818
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: my bad, everybody. I took eight years of Spanish. I

819
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 2: got to be better than that. So my bad on

820
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: a Monday with three hours of sleep, forgive me. Uh,

821
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: let's get back to the phones at eight oh three

822
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 2: oh five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

823
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: two five fifty got some open lines for you there

824
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: as we're looking for your takeaways from the loss to

825
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: the Ravens, and we lead off this sect with Alex

826
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: in Rochester. What do you got for is Alex?

827
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 16: Hey, guys, how you doing today?

828
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 2: Okay?

829
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I'm not down on this team. I agree,

830
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 8: you know, Steve, they're gonna be looking to Houston as

831
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 8: they need to. You know, a couple of things that

832
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 8: say out to me, and I'd love to get some

833
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 8: stats on this. It seems like defensively thirty ten, you know,

834
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 8: third ten, eleven, twelve, I mean, we just gave up

835
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 8: some big plays, did a decent job on first and

836
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 8: second down and just couldn't couldn't, couldn't get him into

837
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 8: a you know, a punk situation there on a couple

838
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 8: of key drives, and then the second thing I think

839
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 8: we need to be honest with ourselves. I think you

840
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 8: know done a good good job offensive play calling so

841
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 8: far this year.

842
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 17: But.

843
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: You're cutting out on is Alex lost.

844
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 15: I don't think it.

845
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 8: Can be talked about too much because it's just that

846
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 8: that single.

847
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Alex, I'm sorry you're you're cutting out on us

848
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: and we're losing the whole point of your phone call.

849
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I cut you loose there. But you wanted

850
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 2: some third down analysis, third and long, that kind of thing,

851
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: and I've got it right in front of me here,

852
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: So let me just I hate doing this, but there's

853
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 2: some live math I gotta do here. So the Bills

854
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: have faced to this point six nine, ten, eleven plays

855
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: of third and ten or more, twelve plays, fourteen plays

856
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: of third and ten or more, and they have led

857
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: to four first downs fourth, so they are four of

858
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: fortth their opponents are four of fourteen on third and

859
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: long conversions of ten yards or more. So what is that?

860
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: That's that's not good. I'm gonna use my calculator and

861
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid to admit it. That's a twenty eight

862
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: percent conversion rate on third and ten or more. That's

863
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: not horrible. For the Bills. Defensively, it's also not it's decent.

864
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: It's decent for an offense if you're converting twenty eight

865
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 2: percent on third and ten or more. So I understand

866
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: the frustration. And look, the Ravens converted a third and

867
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 2: eleven and they converted a third and fourteen last night. Yeah,

868
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 2: you had him where you want him down in distance

869
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: wise behind the sticks, and it still didn't matter.

870
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's right, that is. It does speak to the

871
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 3: fact that they were preting pretty success later in the game.

872
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: They were being pretty successful on first and second down,

873
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: but they not well, not good enough. I mean, you

874
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 3: know that the efficiency the third down, they were five

875
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:35,479
Speaker 3: of nine.

876
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: I am going to tell you. I am going to

877
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: tell you that the Ravens, and this was the case

878
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: in the first half. Coming into the game, the Ravens

879
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: thirty two percent of the time on offense got a

880
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: first down on first or second down. That was in

881
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: their first three games. So they were doing that to everybody,

882
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: and they did it again last night. They did not

883
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 2: get to third down a ton last night to even

884
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: have to worry about converting. As a matter of fact,

885
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,439
Speaker 2: I want to go to the first half stats really

886
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: quick here because I remember looking at this last night.

887
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: So they were three for three on third down in

888
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 2: the first half, but total first downs in the first half,

889
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 2: I think they had thirteen. So that means ten of

890
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: the thirteen first downs they got they got on first

891
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: or second down. Right, they weren't even getting to third

892
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: down because they averaged over ten yards of play in

893
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: the first half.

894
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 3: Bills can fans can relate to this what the Bills

895
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 3: were doing to other people over the first three weeks

896
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: of the season. They were snapping off eight yard runs

897
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 3: on first down and doing it both run and pass,

898
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 3: and it's hard. So when you do actually, when the

899
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 3: Bills did actually get an incompletion or a stop on

900
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: first down or second down, you know they couldn't stop

901
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 3: them on third. I mean fifty something percent fifty six

902
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 3: percent third down conversion rates too much in a game.

903
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: You're way out in front in the NFL if you

904
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 3: do that. So, yeah, the Bills defensively couldn't string it

905
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: together enough good plays to get the Ravens off the field.

906
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 3: The Ravens did just enough to stay on the field,

907
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 3: and sometimes more than enough. Like you said, in the

908
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 3: first half, the Ravens were absolutely crushing it offensively first

909
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 3: and second down. They could have been playing Canadian football

910
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: and get you know, three down football and still being

911
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 3: getting first down.

912
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: We already talked about how they were not driven out

913
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: of running the football because the Bills didn't want to

914
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: do something unconventional to force them to throw. But there

915
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: was no need to even if that happened, because they

916
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: were so far ahead on the scoreboard, they could just

917
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: run it as much as they wanted. They're up twenty

918
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: to three or twenty one to three in the first half.

919
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones into Anthony and Springfield.

920
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: What do you got for is Anthony Hi?

921
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 18: It seems like everybody's just talking about the first half,

922
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 18: and when we went into the first half, it was

923
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 18: a rough rumble. But when we were coming out of the

924
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 18: second half, it seemed like Buffalo finally had their game

925
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 18: plan going on and they were glued in on the run.

926
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 18: They were stopping Derrick Henry, they were finally getting pressured

927
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 18: Onlamar Jackson. But the only head scratcher I have is

928
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 18: why was Kurge Samuel in the Wildcat? Why did that

929
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 18: scene like it was just brainstormed? And when they failed

930
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 18: execution on that play. It could have caused injury to

931
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 18: Josh Allen. What was the problem with that play right there?

932
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 19: That was what killed it.

933
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 18: We could have went down seventeen to twenty one. It

934
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 18: was going to be a one score game, and it

935
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 18: seemed like Buffalo had the momentum.

936
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 2: They did why they did have the moment of anthony.

937
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: You're one hundred percent right, But this is this again

938
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: goes back to the number one problem in the game,

939
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 2: and everything cascaded down from that. The battle at the

940
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage was lost. If you watch that play,

941
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: there is enormous penetration immediately. URIs Samuel is under stress

942
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 2: immediately because the penetration the exchange is bad, the timing

943
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: of the play is messed up, and then there's further

944
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 2: penetration off the edge. You lose the battle at the

945
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. You can't execute effectively.

946
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Right out of the gate, Dion got beat up

947
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 3: the field by van Ney and then van neyd gets

948
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 3: right into the face of Curtis Samuel. Samuel then haphazardly

949
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 3: tries to get it back to Josh, and Josh is

950
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 3: trying to get rid of it either throw it away

951
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 3: or whatever. But van Ney blew this play up. Not

952
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 3: only did whack Samuel, he came back and force the

953
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 3: fumble on Josh Allen and Dion Dawkins is stand there

954
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: trying to catch up to him and then get As

955
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 3: he catches up to him, he's got to change direction

956
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 3: because van Ney is already running the other way. So

957
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 3: that play was doomed due to the aggression of the

958
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 3: Baltimore defense and van Ney's ability to get across the

959
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. Dion got caught flat footed trying to

960
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 3: get back and couldn't get a hand on van Noyin.

961
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: He's standing right in the middle of the play. He

962
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 3: hits both guys who handled the ball on that play.

963
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: He hits Samuel and then he hits Josh.

964
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 2: Set a team record for at least two sacks and

965
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: three consecutive games for the Ravens. He has been a

966
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: brilliant signing for Baltimore. He signed with them in Week

967
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: four last year and he now has fifteen sacks in

968
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 2: eighteen games in a Baltimore uniform. He has been a

969
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 2: brilliant signing for them. They know how to scheme him

970
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 2: up and make him give him opportunities to sack the quarterback.

971
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: Got to take a break here, we will take more

972
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 2: of your phone calls. But when we return, my broadcast

973
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 2: partner on the Bills Radio Network, Eric Wood, joins us

974
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: in our number two here on a Buffalo Football Monday

975
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by coliut of Health. It's

976
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio.

977
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health.

978
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: All right, second hour of a Buffalo Football Monday. Chris Brown,

979
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, and please to be joined now

980
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: by my broadcast partner on the Bills Radio network, It's

981
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: Bills Radio. Color analyst, former center for the Bills and

982
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 2: host of the Centered on Buffalo podcast, Eric Wood, joining

983
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,919
Speaker 2: us here in the aftermath of what was a far

984
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: from perfect evening for the Bills and a near perfect

985
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: evening for the Ravens, which Eric probably accounted for the

986
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 2: disparity in score with the Ravens playing as well as

987
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 2: they did and the Bills playing so much below their

988
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: normal standard. But with the Ravens offense, Steve and I

989
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 2: have been talking about this from the outset of the show.

990
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: In the NFL, I think you could argue they are

991
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: an outlier type of offense with the way they run things.

992
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: Three hundred pound fullback, etc. Etc. Is it necessary do

993
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,959
Speaker 2: you believe, let's just say down the line in the winter,

994
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: these two teams meet again, how far outside the box

995
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 2: do the Bills need to go in terms of their

996
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: defensive thinking to be effective in forcing the Ravens to

997
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: throw the football.

998
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 20: Well, we've seen the Bills be successful against this Ravens

999
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 20: team that's mainly the same cast a number of times. Now,

1000
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 20: when you had Dereck Henry, a Hall of Fame two

1001
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 20: hundred and fifty pounds running back that can run as

1002
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 20: fast as anyone in the league. If you let him

1003
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 20: go straight north and south, that adds a different element

1004
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 20: to this offense. You still have the flash of Lamar Jackson,

1005
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 20: capable thrower, you have some shiftier guys on the outside

1006
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 20: and capable tight ends that can catch some balls over

1007
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 20: the middle. But you add Dereck Henry to the mix,

1008
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 20: and you've got a fullback and a running back that

1009
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 20: are bigger than anybody on your defense and.

1010
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 21: Likely your defensive tackles.

1011
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 20: Okay, so maybe the next time the Bills say, Okay,

1012
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 20: we're gonna put more three linebackers sets on the field. Well,

1013
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 20: that's difficult right now when you're sitting here without Trel

1014
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 20: Bernard and without Matt Malano this early in the season,

1015
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 20: and so you know, I don't know that there's a

1016
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 20: ton that needs to happen other than the fact that

1017
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 20: in no offense to the guys that are in there

1018
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 20: right now, but no one, not many people in the

1019
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 20: league are playing they can play the positions of linebacker

1020
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 20: and nickel like Taron Johnson, Treel Bernard and Matt Malana.

1021
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 20: You put those three guys in there, and it's likely

1022
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 20: a different story last night to the Bills get the win.

1023
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 21: Probably not.

1024
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 20: I mean, honestly, they made so many mistakes on both

1025
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 20: sides of the football. You know it was gonna be

1026
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 20: tough to go into MT Field last night and get

1027
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 20: that victory. But you know, I'd imagine the next time

1028
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 20: these teams play, whether it's another defensive lineman on the field,

1029
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 20: if for cards on the field because you're not super

1030
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 20: worried about him as a pass catcher, or it's another linebacker.

1031
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 20: I mean, obviously you're gonna make some adjustments the next time.

1032
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 20: If you face these guys again in the playoffs, yeah.

1033
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: And I think one of the things too, We've seen

1034
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 3: this happen as well becau the Bills play a team

1035
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 3: early in the year and they had come back with

1036
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: a much different game plan. And I'd say this too,

1037
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 3: what Josh noticed this and McDermott alluded to it in

1038
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: his postgame com both of them in their postgame comments,

1039
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 3: and they just they didn't have the urgency that Baltimore did. Certainly,

1040
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 3: it's the first time in a minute that the Bills

1041
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 3: went on the road in that kind of environment. You

1042
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 3: get down to Miami in a one o'clock or even

1043
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,279
Speaker 3: on a night game in Miami, it's it's not the

1044
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 3: same as it is going to Baltimore on a Sunday

1045
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 3: night football game with with that team. So you know,

1046
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 3: talk a little bit about the urgency and kind of

1047
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 3: the atmosphere, and you know, they kind of got hit

1048
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 3: in the mouth early, so it was it couldn't have

1049
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 3: been a more hostile environment.

1050
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 21: Yeah, it was, and it was a it was a

1051
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 21: rowdy environment.

1052
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 20: And and then when you look at how that affects

1053
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 20: us on the offensive side of the football, you have

1054
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 20: a new center, So this is the first time in

1055
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 20: a really tough environment that Josh and Connor McGovern are

1056
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 20: going through their calls. Connor McGovern the center is likely

1057
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 20: the one relaying the calls inside out. You have a

1058
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 20: number of new guys at the receiver position that Josh

1059
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 20: is trying to you know, in near deafening noise. You're

1060
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 20: trying to communicate out to those guys. It becomes difficult. Well,

1061
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 20: this is also you know Joe Brady, he puts in

1062
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 20: this new system this offseason or or much of a

1063
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 20: new system, and it was it was a learning experience

1064
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 20: for those guys. You know, will they likely stretch the

1065
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 20: ball down the field more and test them to try

1066
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 20: and maybe get them out of some different coverages. Earlier

1067
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 20: in the game they finally got to the back shoulder

1068
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 20: throws and Keon Coleman misses the one down the field

1069
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 20: in the first half.

1070
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 21: Could that help? Sure?

1071
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 20: Could you know, maybe some screen like true running back

1072
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 20: screens or whatever it is against these pressure schemes of

1073
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 20: the Ravens.

1074
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 21: Could those help maybe?

1075
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 20: And look, those guys in the building at one Bill's Drive,

1076
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 20: that coaching staff upstairs, they're there for a reason. They'll

1077
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 20: figure out what they need to get to. Probably earlier

1078
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 20: in the games, in hostile environments. But each year is

1079
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 20: going to be totally different. And you bring up a

1080
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 20: great point, Steve, that this was the first time that

1081
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 20: this group faced that type of noise. They're also fighting

1082
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 20: from a big time deficit, and it got it. I

1083
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 20: mean it started getting away early. They're down twenty one

1084
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 20: to three in the first half.

1085
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 21: For sure.

1086
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 20: They had a deficit at home against the Cardinals, a

1087
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 20: little different animal there, though.

1088
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 2: Get into some areas of your expertise, because coach mcdermy

1089
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: talked about how they lost the battle with the line

1090
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 2: of scrimmage on both sides of the ball pretty handily.

1091
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 2: It was obvious even to the untrained eye. At the

1092
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 2: end of the game the stats come out. Josh Allen

1093
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: pressured on fifteen of his thirty four dropbacks. Eric. I

1094
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 2: just know, having done games with you two or three

1095
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 2: times a game, there's going to be a free rusher

1096
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 2: that Josh has to take care of personally by recognizing

1097
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: who is hot is and getting the ball out. But

1098
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: it seemed like there were far too many instances of

1099
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: that last night, which to me indicates protection errors pre snap.

1100
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: Is that an accurate assumption to make?

1101
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 20: Yeah, there was errors and I'm not sure who's that

1102
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 20: fault because I'm not in the meeting room with those guys.

1103
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 20: But it's either the running backs, the offensive line, potentially

1104
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 20: a tight end or Josh. Or it's a receiver not

1105
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 20: recognizing that they brought four to a side. Okay, now

1106
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 20: I'm hot on the play. Now I have to bend

1107
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 20: off my route to give Josh an easy option. It's

1108
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 20: not always, hey, they're a guy coming free, even if

1109
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 20: it's up the middle of the offense, that's not even

1110
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 20: always the offensive lineman's fault. Now, I did see some

1111
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 20: guys lose some one on one matchups up front last night,

1112
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 20: especially on the interior, which is very tough on Josh

1113
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 20: because when a guy's coming straight down the barrel of

1114
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 20: the pocket, I mean, it's it's hard to get away

1115
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 20: from those guys. And then really the Ravens did a

1116
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 20: nice job of containing the edges. You know, Kyle van

1117
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 20: Noy makes, you know, a few big plays in this game,

1118
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 20: but a lot of it was him not necessarily winning

1119
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 20: one on one battles against the tight ends. It's you know,

1120
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 20: guys inside making plays. He saw the play made on

1121
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 20: the on the strip, on the trick play, which is

1122
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 20: kind of a gift by us to Kyle van Noy. Again,

1123
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 20: give him credit. He's he's doing his job and doing

1124
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 20: it effectively. But I felt like there was there were

1125
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 20: some losses on the interior, which Baltimore's defense is excellent

1126
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 20: on the interior. Matta Buike is one of the highest

1127
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 20: paid interior guys in the league for a reason. But

1128
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 20: when you look at it, yes, there was definitely projection

1129
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 20: issues and these types of games where you see that

1130
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 20: type of pressure percentage, it's oftentimes where you're not effective

1131
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 20: on first and second down, so you're finding yourself in

1132
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 20: a bunch of third longs or obvious pass situations, or

1133
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 20: when you're at double digit deficits, and both of those

1134
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 20: came true last night, which is going to lead to

1135
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 20: a really tough day when the Baltimore defense, Zach Worth,

1136
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 20: their defensive coordinator, can just simply pick and choose different

1137
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 20: pressure schemes at will because there's not a whole lot

1138
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:26,959
Speaker 20: of risk there.

1139
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 3: We had a couple of callers mentioned this, and I

1140
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,959
Speaker 3: guess I would, for the most part agree it didn't

1141
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 3: look like the Bills running game was ineffective at all

1142
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 3: last night. It just looked like it was just something

1143
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 3: they weren't going to win that game by running the ball.

1144
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 21: Yeah, that's a fair point.

1145
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 20: And once you find yourself down as quickly as they did,

1146
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 20: you know, they're down fourteen to three, like you know,

1147
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 20: twenty one to three before they can blink. The Ravens

1148
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 20: score touchdowns on their first three drives, and so you're

1149
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 20: likely not going to be able to just simply stick

1150
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 20: to the run. Me and Chris talked about it heading

1151
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 20: into the second half, keep them honest and at times

1152
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 20: mixing a run so that they can't just simply pin

1153
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 20: their ears back.

1154
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 21: But you got to make some plays down the field.

1155
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 20: And so had this been a closer game with Michael

1156
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 20: Pierce their nose guard out, could they have worn on

1157
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 20: this team a little bit in the run game. Likely,

1158
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 20: But it just didn't get to that point in this one.

1159
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 20: Because of that.

1160
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 2: The much has been made about the trick play call.

1161
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 2: The Bills had seized momentum back in the game at

1162
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: that point, they're at midfield. It's a big down and

1163
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: distance play there and they dial something up that we

1164
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: have not seen before. Obviously, that's part of the point

1165
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: by Joe Brady and calling that play and when it

1166
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: doesn't go right, you're going to face a world of criticism.

1167
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: But I thought coach McDermott's comments after the game more interesting.

1168
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 2: When he was asked about it, he said, I will

1169
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 2: talk to Joe about it and it will be addressed.

1170
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: It was a very short and direct response, which lends

1171
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 2: speculation to the thought that probably not the best time

1172
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 2: for that, in light of how long it took you

1173
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: to get momentum back in the game, and then after

1174
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: that play it all goes south again.

1175
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 20: Yeah, I agree, and Joe, I'm sure we'll tell you

1176
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 20: the exact same thing. You know, there's calls that he's

1177
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 20: gonna want back he took a chance there.

1178
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 21: We might have been sitting here today.

1179
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 20: They score a touchdown on that play and it gets

1180
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 20: to twenty one to seventeen, and now the Bills have

1181
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 20: all the momentum, and we might be singing Joe's praises

1182
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 20: and Joe Brady such an excellent job this season as

1183
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 20: the Bills offensive coordinator. We were all singing as praises

1184
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,440
Speaker 20: people on social media as of last as of Sunday

1185
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 20: or a Sunday morning, we're saying, well, I hope we

1186
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 20: enjoy Joe Brady because we're gonna lose him here once

1187
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 20: the coaching cycle, once this season's over, he's gonna be

1188
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 20: one of the next head coach of the National Football League.

1189
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 20: Let's not forget all of the good that good play calls,

1190
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 20: the great situations he's put this unit in so far

1191
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 20: this season. And so look, I mean it is what

1192
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 20: it is. Did I love La Caall?

1193
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 17: No?

1194
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 20: Did I like how they maybe hadn't set it up

1195
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 20: with Curtis Samuel in some type of wildcat look prior? Sure,

1196
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 20: but I'm not going to sit here and crucify Joe

1197
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 20: Brady here for taking a chance in a game that

1198
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,360
Speaker 20: he might have felt like, Look, we don't we're not

1199
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 20: moving the ball effectively. Yeah, we've scored seven points, or

1200
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 20: we've scored ten, but our previous seven came on a

1201
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 20: pass where Josh was a half a yard from the

1202
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 20: sideline and winged it down the field to Shakira. Wasn't

1203
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 20: like they were putting together another long drive. And so

1204
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 20: he shoots a shot and it doesn't work. And I

1205
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 20: heard coaches comments after the game when I was driving

1206
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 20: back to the hotel in Baltimore, and you know, I

1207
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 20: heard him and He was short with it, but he

1208
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,919
Speaker 20: was short with a lot of answers, obviously frustrated after

1209
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 20: that game, and he did say, you know, we will

1210
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 20: get better from it. I'm assuming coach McDermott didn't know

1211
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 20: that that play call was necessarily coming. But when he

1212
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 20: says we, you know, he stands with Joe Brady and

1213
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 20: he knows all the good that Joe Brady's done at

1214
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 20: this point of the season.

1215
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 3: So let's talk about both coordinators, Joe Brady and then

1216
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 3: Bobby Babbage. Bob Babbage had his hands full and we

1217
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 3: were talking about how the Ravens and we'll get back

1218
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 3: to it here once again, are kind of an outlier

1219
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 3: roster and the way they run their offense with Derrick

1220
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 3: Henry and Lamar Jackson and the two losses they had,

1221
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 3: and I've harped on this a little bit in Kansas

1222
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 3: City and Las Vegas. The Ravens threw the ball forty

1223
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 3: one times against Kansas City and thirty four times against

1224
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 3: Las Vegas. Lost both those games, even though Lamar's numbers

1225
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 3: were pretty good passing the ball against Dallas and Buffalo,

1226
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 3: they threw it fifteen times against Dallas and nineteen times

1227
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 3: against Buffalo, there's something in that. And as a defensive

1228
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 3: coordinator and then obviously an offensive coordinator, how much does

1229
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 3: that affect what you really want to get done against

1230
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 3: these This team is the Ravens.

1231
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean, you know they went to Bunkin and

1232
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 20: away from Greg Roman so that they'd throw the football board.

1233
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 20: But it sure seems like they're still built to run

1234
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 20: the football, especially when you bring in Derrick Henry this offseason.

1235
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 20: And so yeah, I mean, you want you want teams

1236
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 20: to play left handed. If you're playing against the Baltimtimore Ravens,

1237
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 20: you know, you want to stop the run, and you

1238
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 20: want to make Lamar be a pocket passer. You want

1239
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,959
Speaker 20: and really you want him to. You want to force

1240
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,440
Speaker 20: him to throw outside the numbers. You want to clog

1241
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 20: the middle of the field so you can't make the

1242
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 20: easier reads and the easier throws, and you want him

1243
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 20: to have to throw it sideline to sideline. Obviously, the

1244
01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 20: Bills didn't get that done, starting with stopping the run

1245
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,919
Speaker 20: last night. When you can't stop the run, now here

1246
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 20: comes your linebacker sucking up on play action and Lamar

1247
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 20: Jackson was dicing up the middle of the field and

1248
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 20: really the only exterior throws were either play action rollouts

1249
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 20: or quick little bubbles or screens to the running backs.

1250
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 20: There really wasn't any They really didn't force him in

1251
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 20: any throws outside the numbers. And then when you got

1252
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 20: a guy as fast as Lamar Jackson who's picked up

1253
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 20: a couple first legs early in the game, then your

1254
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 20: pass rush becomes hesitan because you don't want to get

1255
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 20: out of the run lanes. So then when they did

1256
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 20: get in those third longs, it just seemed like he

1257
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 20: had all day to throw the ball back there.

1258
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: Let's spin it forward a little bit with Houston on

1259
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 2: the horizon. Here another road contest, and you know CJ.

1260
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 2: Stroud coming off his nineteenth career game in which he

1261
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 2: throws for over three hundred yards and two touchdowns and

1262
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 2: no interceptions. But they had to escape with a victory

1263
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 2: against winless Jacksonville. It was a tough role for them

1264
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 2: to hoe division opponent. Maybe that's part of it, familiarity

1265
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 2: between the two sides. But Stroud, you know, is a

1266
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 2: dangerous quarterback, probably considered top tier, and he's got a

1267
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: multitude of weapons. Logic would say the Bills are better

1268
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 2: equipped as a defense to stop the pass. So maybe

1269
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 2: that's a plus. And we'll have to keep an eye

1270
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,080
Speaker 2: on whether Joe Mixon returns to the lineup. He's missed

1271
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 2: the last three games with an injury. But what do

1272
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 2: you see at first blush with this matchup?

1273
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 20: Yeah, you look at this game on the schedule early

1274
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 20: in the season, you say this is going to be

1275
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 20: two of the AFC's best. You have the storyline with

1276
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 20: Stefan Diggs going against his former team, and then I

1277
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 20: have a lot of respect for CJ.

1278
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 21: Stroud.

1279
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 20: I think he's played phenomenal in this first you know,

1280
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 20: first part of his career, just in his second year.

1281
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:22,919
Speaker 20: Seems mature, well beyond his age, can make any throw

1282
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 20: on the field, seems ground, and his teammates love him.

1283
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 20: I mean, they got their franchise guy down there at Houston.

1284
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 20: This will be another tough matchup here for the Bills,

1285
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 20: But you're right, different animal and look, teams are generally

1286
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 20: gonna be built these days to stop the Kansas Cities.

1287
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 20: If I'm looking at from the AFC perspective, Kansas City, Buffalo, Houston,

1288
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 20: Miami to an extent, New York to an extent those

1289
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,800
Speaker 20: teams that you know, have you know, two to three

1290
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Speaker 20: different weapons outside quarterbacks with huge arms can air it out.

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Speaker 20: So just because there's one teams like team like the

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Speaker 20: Ravens and I guess maybe now the Chargers are sucking

1293
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Speaker 20: the life of the game with Harball over there. But

1294
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 20: you know, it just seems to me that, yes, the

1295
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 20: Bills should be better equipped, especially with if they're not

1296
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 20: able to get any of the injured guys back in

1297
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 20: Bernard and Taron Johnson back this week, they'd be better

1298
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 20: equipped to go.

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Speaker 21: Against this Houston defense, Houston offense.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, is there anything from this or I guess what

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01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 3: do you take from this Baltimore loss and learn about

1302
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 3: it for this week's game in Houston. Obviously the emotion

1303
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 3: of it and kind of the chip on your shoulder

1304
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 3: during the week, But what is there anything else?

1305
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 21: Yeah?

1306
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 20: I mean, you've played in a tough road atmosphere and

1307
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 20: you had to do it for four quarters. You're likely

1308
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 20: going to have to do it again this week at Houston.

1309
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 20: Houston down in that dome is loud, and so yes,

1310
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 20: you got a week of experience. You're likely going to

1311
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 20: see some similar concepts, probably pressure scheme wise coming against

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Speaker 20: our offense.

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Speaker 21: I don't know.

1314
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Speaker 20: How closely Houston can mimic what Baltimore did just based

1315
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 20: upon personnel. But you know, it's a wee week league,

1316
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 20: but people are always going to try you on stuff

1317
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 20: that affected you. So I'd expect this Bill's offense to

1318
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,439
Speaker 20: experience some you know, six seven guys at the line

1319
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 20: of scrimmage fire different players because the Bills didn't have

1320
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 20: a whole lot of answers for that last night. And

1321
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 20: then what you learned is, look, you have to get

1322
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 20: up and play every single week. And I'm not saying

1323
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 20: there was an energy. I'm not saying that the Bills

1324
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 20: weren't fighting as hard as they could to go four

1325
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 20: and oh, but anybody's beatable on any week. And when

1326
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 20: you don't bring your a game and the other team

1327
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,679
Speaker 20: out physicals you, it could be a blowout. And these

1328
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 20: games are never fun to be in the film session today,

1329
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 20: I can guarantee you that.

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Speaker 13: Right.

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01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 2: All right, Eric, thanks for the time. We will see

1332
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: you out Houston way later this week.

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Speaker 21: Sounds good, looking forward to it. Thanks guys, having great week.

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Speaker 3: All right.

1335
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Speaker 2: That's Eric Wood. He is the radio color analyst on

1336
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 2: the Bills Radio network and giving us his thoughts on

1337
01:08:56,479 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 2: the unfortunate outcome last night in Baltimore. We will get

1338
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 2: back to the phones at eight h three zero five

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Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty two five

1340
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Speaker 2: fifty Those are the numbers to join us if you

1341
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: want to give us your takeaways or concerns from the

1342
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 2: outcome of the game last night. We are going to

1343
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 2: get to the tweet sheet, which we have yet to

1344
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: crack open at this point. Tweet sheet brought to you

1345
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Speaker 2: by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of

1346
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, and Ted says, to quote Mike Tyson,

1347
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 2: everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.

1348
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 2: That was Henry's eighty seven yard opening play run and

1349
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 2: TD the Bills never recovered. I think they recovered. It

1350
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 2: just took until the third quarter and then they handed

1351
01:09:41,560 --> 01:09:44,759
Speaker 2: momentum right back to the Ravens with the failed trick play.

1352
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: But yes, they got punched in the mouth. And what

1353
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,520
Speaker 2: do you think the defenders were told all week, particularly

1354
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 2: at the second level, You've got to account for Derrick

1355
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 2: Henry and be aware of Lamar Jackson. That's a lot

1356
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 2: of basis to cover with all the misdirection they run,

1357
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 2: jet sweeps and you know, fake tosses coming back to

1358
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 2: the other side, fake pass, handed off. And I think

1359
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 2: the eighty seven yard touchdown by Henry on the first

1360
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 2: play was probably the worst thing that could have happened

1361
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:21,839
Speaker 2: to Buffalo's defense because now you're hyper aware of Henry

1362
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 2: in the run game even more than you were coming

1363
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 2: into the game. And that and because of that, everything

1364
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 2: that remotely looks like it could be a handoff has

1365
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 2: you triggered now even more than you were at the

1366
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 2: beginning of the game. So now you're biting up. You're

1367
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: cheating a little bit because you want to make the

1368
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 2: play that you didn't make on the eighty seven yard touchdown.

1369
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 2: And now for the linebackers and the nickel corner Cam Lewis,

1370
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 2: now there's a void behind you in the passing game,

1371
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 2: and they can exploit that because you're forced to respect

1372
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 2: the run game after what happened on the first play

1373
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 2: from scrimming.

1374
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 3: It's just like a passing game when you've got you know,

1375
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 3: Khalil Shakir catching all these balls all of a sudden.

1376
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 3: You know, Dalton Kincaid has a game, you know where

1377
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 3: Calton Dalton Kincaid has a couple of catches on a

1378
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 3: series because they're worried about taking Khalil Shakure away. So

1379
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 3: then you start thinking about it, I'm not letting Derrick

1380
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 3: Henry get past me. Then Lamar's running around the end

1381
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 3: on the other side of the field. So just like

1382
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 3: in the passing game, when you have more than one

1383
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,759
Speaker 3: really big option in the run game, as the Ravens

1384
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:23,440
Speaker 3: do unlike any other team in the league, because Baltimore

1385
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 3: uses called quarterback runs more than I would venture to

1386
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 3: say more than any team in the league. So you've

1387
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 3: got just like you have two guys in the passing

1388
01:11:31,680 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 3: game to worry about, now you've got two guys in

1389
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 3: the running game. And it's hard. It's really hard, particularly

1390
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 3: when they nicky early, like Brownie said, and so yeah,

1391
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 3: there's a lot to learn from this. You know, you

1392
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,120
Speaker 3: get into a thing. It happens almost every time you

1393
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 3: get nicked for a big play, particularly in a run

1394
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 3: game like that, and then everybody starts trying. All the

1395
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 3: run defenders start trying to make every play. You're right,

1396
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 3: So they want to be the guy that doesn't let

1397
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 3: another one of those go. So they start trying to

1398
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 3: make play in defensive gaps that aren't their gap to

1399
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 3: make plays in, and then you know, you go over there,

1400
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 3: you think, oh, there it goes, I'm gonna go get

1401
01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 3: it before it gets going. Well, you leave your spot

1402
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 3: and Lamar still got the ball in his hands, and

1403
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 3: you're chasing Derrick Henry and they're going to run right

1404
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 3: back through the gap you were. You saw that time

1405
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 3: and time again last night, where guys just take a

1406
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 3: wrong step here and there and can't recover because of

1407
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 3: the speed. So yeah, that Brownie's right. You get nicked

1408
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 3: early and it affects you for a minute before you

1409
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 3: can settle back down and say, okay, okay, we're okay.

1410
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 3: We just got to play better in my spot. I

1411
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:42,000
Speaker 3: can't do five elevenths of the defense. I just got

1412
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:42,919
Speaker 3: to do my one eleventh.

1413
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 2: B Buildings on the tweets sheet says the Bills were

1414
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 2: dominated in the trenches on both sides of the ball. Yeah,

1415
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 2: they were. It's reflected in the yards per play. I

1416
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 2: mean you look at both offenses. At halftime, the Ravens

1417
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 2: are averaging just over ten yards per play, Bills are

1418
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 2: averaging three. And by the end of the game it

1419
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 2: got a little better for the Bills as they averaged

1420
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: four yards of play, and the Ravens average came down,

1421
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 2: but they still averaged eight yards of play, which was

1422
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 2: double what Buffalo averaged in the game. So it was

1423
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 2: that and that speaks directly to the work at the

1424
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage that's being done. Bill's had a lot

1425
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 2: of their offensive plays blown up due to penetration at

1426
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage, and Buffalo could not get any

1427
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 2: heat on Lamar Jackson, who could have set up a

1428
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 2: lawn chair back there and thrown the football if he

1429
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 2: wanted to, and the few times that he did. Ye,

1430
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 2: that's just kind of where it was at yesterday. Got

1431
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:37,920
Speaker 2: to take a break here, but more of your phone

1432
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 2: calls when we return, open lines for you at eight

1433
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 2: o three five point fifty won eighty eight eight five

1434
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 2: point fifty two five fifty Here on a Buffalo Football

1435
01:13:44,680 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: Monday on one Bill's Live Stay with Us coming from

1436
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:08,599
Speaker 2: Chiefs Beat reporter Nate Taylor. He's reporting the following After

1437
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: Andy Reid made his Monday press conference comments today obviously

1438
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: concerns about the Rashi Rice knee injury. He said in

1439
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 2: his opening statement. After several tests on Rice's right knee,

1440
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 2: they do not have a definite diagnosis right now, but

1441
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 2: he is not going to be available this coming week.

1442
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 2: The Chiefs play the Saints at home, so that is

1443
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: the matchup they have, and it looks like they will

1444
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: go in it without Rashie Rice, who has kind of

1445
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 2: become their number one wide receiver. Rice injured yesterday after

1446
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 2: an interception by Mahomes, and he was the victim of

1447
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 2: friendly fire. Mahomes tries to go make a tackle, misses

1448
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 2: the ball carrier that intercepted his pass, and his body

1449
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 2: bowls into Rashie Rice with his feet planet and his

1450
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: leg hyper extends awkwardly. Yeah, not a pretty picture.

1451
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't a pretty injury. It never is. I'll

1452
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 3: say this. I think they're gonna miss Rashid Rice, no

1453
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 3: question about it. But I think this is also I

1454
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 3: think Rashi Rice's emergence has been one of the reasons

1455
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 3: why Travis Kelsey has been slid off to the side

1456
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 3: a little bit. In Kansas City. They'll put him right

1457
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 3: back center, front and center, and Travis Kelcey will pick

1458
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 3: up some, if not all, of the slack Rashi Rice

1459
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 3: leaves behind, and somebody else will take the targets that

1460
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 3: you know, the kind of amount of targets that you know,

1461
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey was getting, and this early in the season

1462
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 3: when he was He's only had like eight receptions coming

1463
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,799
Speaker 3: into the game yesterday. So I don't think the Chiefs

1464
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 3: will be, you know, crippled by this too much. So

1465
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 3: but nevertheless, you lose a good player. It's hard to

1466
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 3: say you're gonna get better.

1467
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones at eight O three

1468
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 2: h five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

1469
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 2: five point fifty and we do have open lines for

1470
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 2: you there. But leading us off in this segment is

1471
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 2: Sal in Buffalo. What do you got for Sal, gentlemen.

1472
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,759
Speaker 14: Yeah, it was a pretty ugly game. Throt and trash

1473
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:18,720
Speaker 14: can't move on. But I got a problem with this.

1474
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:23,639
Speaker 14: They were Raby had a beautiful short passing game going

1475
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 14: obviously the first three games they smelled it out quickly.

1476
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 14: Now we got a guy like Curtis Samuel unless he's hurt,

1477
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 14: I don't know, maybe the kids hurt. Where is this guy?

1478
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 14: Why isn't here number one wide out go to guy.

1479
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 14: He's fast, he can get down the fields, he can

1480
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 14: go long. He's like lost out here. We're paying them

1481
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 14: eight million dollars a year. Where's he been.

1482
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's largely been used as a kind of Swiss

1483
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:56,440
Speaker 2: army knife gadget guy and has not been used extensively

1484
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: throughout his career. Even though he does have four to

1485
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 2: three speed. He has not been used often as a

1486
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 2: deep threat, not by the Carolina Panthers, not by the

1487
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 2: Washington Commanders, and thus far not by the Bills. They've

1488
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: most coordinators prefer to use him as the yards after

1489
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 2: catch player and a multifaceted weapon. We saw him lining

1490
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 2: up in the backfield yesterday, which he's done through the

1491
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 2: first quarter of the season thus far, and then we've

1492
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 2: seen him in the slot as well, and we've seen

1493
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 2: him as a ball carrier in addition to a receiver.

1494
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: I think coach Brady, who also had him in Carolina,

1495
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 2: sees him as an attractive weapon that way for whatever reason,

1496
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 2: though his opportunities have been few and far between, and

1497
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 2: he was the biggest financial investment this team made at

1498
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: the receiver position, with the possible exception of Keon Coleman.

1499
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 2: If you want to argue draft capital versus dollars and cents.

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01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm it was a bad night last night. No question.

1501
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 3: They didn't look effective, They didn't look like they had

1502
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 3: a good game plan, play selection, you call it, whatever

1503
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 3: you want, because all of it is up for grabs

1504
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 3: and worthy of criticism, the way they played last night

1505
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 3: and the way they executed. So but I'm not gonna

1506
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 3: throw away the first three weeks of the season, when

1507
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 3: they didn't even look like they were breathing hard and

1508
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 3: hanging thirty points on people. They ran into a buzz

1509
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 3: saw last night, and they didn't respond in the way

1510
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 3: you'd liked them to, although they started to in the

1511
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,120
Speaker 3: second half. And then once again, one of the things

1512
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 3: that they weren't, you know, the play called the trick play,

1513
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 3: whatever you call it. They couldn't move the ball effectively

1514
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 3: last night for the first time this season. So I'm

1515
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 3: not gonna throw away everything they've done really well up

1516
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 3: to this point just because you know, they scored ten

1517
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:45,840
Speaker 3: points in a game. Let's let's, you know, take a

1518
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 3: deep breath, study it up, and play better. I'm not

1519
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,720
Speaker 3: really worried about the way they're using Curtis Samuel or

1520
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 3: Khalil or Kincaid or not any of them. It has

1521
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,280
Speaker 3: been really, really good up to this point. Night they

1522
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 3: got snapped off pretty good by a good Ravens defense,

1523
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 3: and so that's we'll take that for what it is, right.

1524
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 3: I just you know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

1525
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 3: start Listen, let's change this guy and that guy. Let's

1526
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 3: just land just like we have and just do a

1527
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 3: better job.

1528
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,440
Speaker 2: I just think the reason fans are a bit surprised

1529
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 2: is because Samuel was signed for eight million dollars a

1530
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 2: year on a three year contract, the biggest investment made

1531
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:30,000
Speaker 2: at the receiver position this offseason, and last night he

1532
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 2: gets the fewest snaps of any receiver on the roster.

1533
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 2: I mean, he even had three fewer than Mark Quez

1534
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 2: Veldez Scantling, who has been a one dimensional field stretcher

1535
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:44,120
Speaker 2: since he you know, made the roster. I think that

1536
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 2: strikes fans as peculiar. Why is he only being used

1537
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 2: for twenty two snaps? This isn't a one week thing.

1538
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 2: This has been from the beginning of the season for

1539
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 2: an eight million dollars a year investment. Why is he

1540
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 2: not more involved? I think that's that's a legitimate question

1541
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 2: coming from the fan base, and I underst standard.

1542
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has not been on the injury report. He

1543
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 3: did have the turf toe.

1544
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:08,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, at the beginning of the season.

1545
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 3: It's an it is a good question, and it's legit.

1546
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 3: He has not fit in or been utilized to the

1547
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,559
Speaker 3: level that we would expect the top free agent signing

1548
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:21,799
Speaker 3: on the team to be used.

1549
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 2: Well, especially because he has a prior working relationship with

1550
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,799
Speaker 2: Joe Brady as well. Joe Brady knew what he was getting,

1551
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 2: arguably by spending a season with him in Carolina where

1552
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 2: he had his most productive season as a professional.

1553
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 3: I'm about I'm all about that, and I agree with it.

1554
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 3: But in Carolina, you had Cam Newton, Teddy Bridgewater or

1555
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 3: Teddy Bridgewater as well, and then you had on that

1556
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 3: team was Steve Smith Senior still on that team.

1557
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 2: I don't think so anyway, that.

1558
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 3: That mix and cast of characters are much different than the.

1559
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 2: Casting djmore there at the same time.

1560
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 3: He is working with now. So it was all different

1561
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 3: there and certainly in Washington. I mean, you can throw

1562
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 3: those years kind of out because of the I mean,

1563
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 3: look at the list of quarterbacks that he played with there.

1564
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 3: So whatever he's done up to this point, this is

1565
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 3: a different animal that he's mixed in with in this

1566
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,760
Speaker 3: offense with these players, So I get that it may

1567
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 3: look different, and let's face it, they've tried to get

1568
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 3: him involve that trick play last night. Notwithstanding they are

1569
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 3: using him differently. Not no, they're not. They're using him

1570
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 3: exactly like we thought they would, but less so as

1571
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 3: just a speed threat down the field kind of guy.

1572
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've never used him.

1573
01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 3: Last night they couldn't. They couldn't drop back. Josh couldn't

1574
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 3: put his back foot in the ground and release it

1575
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 3: before he had to avoid pressure on half of his dropbacks.

1576
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 3: That's a problem last night and up until this time,

1577
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 3: let's face it, they didn't have these problems. They were

1578
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 3: you know, and I still think they're gonna look like

1579
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 3: a wagon coming the rest of the way. But last

1580
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 3: night was a bad night. So it's hard for me

1581
01:21:59,120 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 3: to evaluate.

1582
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 2: I can question or only four games in. Yeah, I'm

1583
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: not gonna question it.

1584
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 3: When three of the games went like they did and

1585
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 3: last night happened flipping around.

1586
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 2: I will say this, if you want to go on

1587
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 2: playtime percentage alone, it looks as though Joe Brady is

1588
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 2: trying to incorporate him more into the game plan. Week two,

1589
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel plays twelve snaps on offense. Week three, in

1590
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 2: the blowout win over Jacksonville, he plays let me see here,

1591
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 2: I had it right here. He plays seventeen snaps, and

1592
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 2: then yesterday he plays twenty two snaps. So his snapcount

1593
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 2: has increased by five each of the last three weeks.

1594
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,799
Speaker 2: So it looks like Joe Brady is making a concerted

1595
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,839
Speaker 2: effort to try to increase his time on the field

1596
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:48,880
Speaker 2: to get more out of him. I would expect that

1597
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 2: to continue going forward.

1598
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 3: That smells to me of working him back in after

1599
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 3: a tow injury or some sort of injury. That they're

1600
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 3: starting to get more more. He's getting more confident and

1601
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 3: durable in his own, you know, in his own healing process.

1602
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,839
Speaker 3: So I we'll see. I don't know, but that's almost

1603
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,720
Speaker 3: on schedule, if you will, you know what I mean.

1604
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 3: Like they're like they had a set plan.

1605
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and to Butcher on

1606
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 2: the east side. We go, what do he got for

1607
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 2: his Butcher?

1608
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 13: First of all, thanks and taking my call. I love

1609
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,400
Speaker 13: him as g w J and fans. I definitely love you.

1610
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 13: I'm gonna get right to it. I'm gonna agree and

1611
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,960
Speaker 13: disagree with the caller, and you got in some of

1612
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 13: the comments. The reason why I say that is, you know,

1613
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 13: first of all, Samuel Secure plays the same position. In reality,

1614
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 13: Secure is more established here in Buffalo than Samuel's. So

1615
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 13: now it's harves Samuel to really get out and do

1616
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 13: that because he's got Secure playing that position. So in

1617
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 13: the meantime, you have me running in the backfield, going

1618
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 13: in and out. But that's reason why he really can't

1619
01:23:56,600 --> 01:24:00,720
Speaker 13: get into the flow. But saying that, I'm gonna go

1620
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 13: to Mac Howise. You know, great great guy, great special

1621
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:07,599
Speaker 13: team player. You know Steve. Steve was a better wide receiver,

1622
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 13: but Steve was a top special teams player. Mac is

1623
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 13: a good team teams player, but he's mediocre wide receiver.

1624
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:19,719
Speaker 13: Now I say that to say this fifty three practice

1625
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 13: squad all the same. We all want family. When I

1626
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 13: say make adjustments, I'm not talking about benching. I'm not

1627
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:29,040
Speaker 13: talking about forgetting somebody. Sometimes you have to add more

1628
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 13: flavor something to the room, just to change a little bit.

1629
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 13: Like Steve said, you know the three games prior to

1630
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 13: this fourth one, yes we did. We won the games,

1631
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 13: but we still was missing the Hollises and the Samuel's.

1632
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 11: Doing those three wins.

1633
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 13: We have a guy that Sean McDermott is spoking about

1634
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 13: doing training camp. Steve, you and Chris has been out

1635
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:51,479
Speaker 13: there watching this guy. And then it's Carol Shavers. We

1636
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 13: can just add him, make him active. Sometimes we got

1637
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 13: a fool at Gilliam. We can just make him inactive.

1638
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 13: Unless Shay was get in there. Have to bench anybody

1639
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 13: just to add a little with flavor, last, but not last,

1640
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 13: but not least. And I thank you so much for

1641
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 13: taking my call. I have to go with Steve want this,

1642
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 13: and Steve knows what I'm bout there. Chris, shoot too, Brownie.

1643
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:12,200
Speaker 13: You you've been around organization ever once upon a time.

1644
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 13: And for the old young people out there who really

1645
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 13: don't know what I'm about to say, just pay attention.

1646
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 13: We had a we had an office called in Teddy

1647
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 13: March or Brody who used to be here, and he

1648
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 13: took our offense and he told Steve and the guys,

1649
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 13: when we're on the road, we're playing against a hostile crowd.

1650
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 13: You have to go up tempo just to keep them going,

1651
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 13: to stay in rhythm, you have to tire out the

1652
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 13: defensive lineman. I'm just gonna say to Brady, Brady, we

1653
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 13: about to go into this gauntlet right now. We're going on.

1654
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 13: We're going to Houston, we going to New York City.

1655
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 13: You're gonna have to with that offense you're running, which

1656
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 13: is fine. You have to go no huddle a little

1657
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 13: bit more to get him in rhythm. Last, but not least,

1658
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 13: they better watch mcgovernn. I don't know he was right

1659
01:25:56,040 --> 01:26:00,640
Speaker 13: after that that. I'm gonna say suspected concussion because after that,

1660
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 13: you know, it wasn't different. They need to watch that

1661
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 13: a little bit this week in practice. But thanks for

1662
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 13: taking my call, guys. I love you, and you guys

1663
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 13: take care of yourself.

1664
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 2: All right, Thanks very much.

1665
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 21: Yeah.

1666
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 2: I mean they did try to go tempo a few

1667
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 2: times yesterday. I mean they got up on the ball

1668
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 2: quickly a few times. Granted, one was to try to

1669
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 2: prevent the Ravens from challenging a play that Coleman may

1670
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 2: not have gotten both feet down on a receptional on

1671
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 2: the sideline, so they hurry up on the ball and

1672
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 2: snap it so they don't get a chance to throw

1673
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 2: the red challenge flag. But there were other times they

1674
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 2: went tempo, got right back up on the ball on

1675
01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: each of their first two possessions, and it worked, and

1676
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 2: that's kind of how you have to go about doing

1677
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 2: it nowadays. You can't just go blankly no huddle and

1678
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 2: hope it works. But if you catch a team in

1679
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 2: a defensive personnel grouping that you like, well then yeah,

1680
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:48,880
Speaker 2: I'll listen to that. No, don't huddle, just get up

1681
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 2: on the line, Yeah, to do a muddle hug.

1682
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 3: Yeah sure. I mean you get some benefit out of

1683
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 3: going tempo. I mean, if you get to the line,

1684
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 3: you can still you don't have to snap it. You

1685
01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 3: can start talking and force the defense to declare what

1686
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 3: they're gonna do, and give yourself a chance to pick

1687
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 3: it up a little quicker and get into better play

1688
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 3: than the one you've got called, or call the perfect play. Yeah, Kurt,

1689
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 3: And it's fair Shakiir and Samuel maybe being close to

1690
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,840
Speaker 3: the same guy in the kind of the slot kind

1691
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 3: of figure. Samuel is a much faster player than Shakiir is,

1692
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 3: but I get that's fair enough. They may have some

1693
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 3: duplicate skill sets, and certainly they're finding different ways to

1694
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 3: get Samuel the ball than they do anybody else, So

1695
01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 3: they do have some but they are making that effort,

1696
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 3: and I think that's because they have a little faith

1697
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:40,799
Speaker 3: in Curtis Samuel. Yeah, and certainly, yeah, you get kudos

1698
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 3: to me from me, but you for bringing up Teddy

1699
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 3: Marsha Broda, So yeah, guy, I love and respect, so

1700
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:52,960
Speaker 3: good on you. But yeah, good good ideas are not

1701
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 3: you know, are you know? You don't have a monopoly

1702
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 3: on good ideas. Teddy had a lot of them. He

1703
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 3: was a he was a fantastic coach. And yeah, I

1704
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 3: would say I'm kind of with you on the tempo thing.

1705
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

1706
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 3: And as far as Shavers and Gilliam, Okay, Gillian, I

1707
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 3: don't know what Gillian plays, what percentage of snaps he plays,

1708
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 3: most of them are on special teams. If you're not

1709
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 3: getting enough value out of that roster spot with Gillian

1710
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 3: playing fullback, Okay, put in another wide receiver and give

1711
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 3: some guys some arrests and some rotation. But you got

1712
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,719
Speaker 3: to have a plan for that. Yeah, I'm not changing

1713
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,679
Speaker 3: just to change. You gotta you gotta have a plan

1714
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 3: and some and a package.

1715
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,679
Speaker 2: Has to show you enough in practice to maybe want

1716
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:41,519
Speaker 2: to elevate him and try him in a package of

1717
01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 2: plays on a game day Sunday.

1718
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 3: And also he's yeah, you he's got to play special teams,

1719
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 3: so and Shavers does I mean he did in the preseason.

1720
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 3: I think he's got I think he's got, uh, you know,

1721
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 3: the attitude for it, so he'll be willing to do it.

1722
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:01,320
Speaker 3: But you're taking Gillium off though, teams to put Shavers on.

1723
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 3: Shavers better come through as well as Gillion did and

1724
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 3: most of the snaps he plays, whether it's special teams

1725
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:11,240
Speaker 3: or offense, whatever that might be. But on offense, who

1726
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 3: are you gonna sit down to put him on the field?

1727
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 3: And that's maybe a tougher.

1728
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 2: Question, Yeah, a valid question. Though. We have to take

1729
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 2: a break here, but we're gonna take more of your

1730
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:23,560
Speaker 2: phone calls when we get back. We'll lead off with

1731
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 2: Joe and Buffalo and others holding an eight oh three

1732
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 2: oh five fifty here on a Buffalo Football Monday on

1733
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:41,519
Speaker 2: One Bills Live. Stay tuned, all right, Welcome back to

1734
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 2: one Bill's Live man down here on the set here

1735
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 2: Steve Yeah, Bill's fans, Bill's fans do Stedo's and rolled Gold.

1736
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's team bags are back for a limited time.

1737
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 2: Stock up for this weekend's game before they're gone, and

1738
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 2: be sure to check out the mouthwatering game day recipes

1739
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:04,760
Speaker 2: on Tostitos dot Com forward slash, beef dash, weck dash nachos.

1740
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 2: I don't think that's gonna stay there, Jay, despite your

1741
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 2: best efforts, stand it up. It's sliding again. It's gonna

1742
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 2: go down. Not gonna make it. I'm just gonna show them.

1743
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hold it up for everybody so they can see.

1744
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 2: On set here this thing keeps falling off the table.

1745
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 2: Pretzels don't stack as well as tostitos. But the roll

1746
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 2: Golds got these one pound bags, the Bill's logo on them.

1747
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 2: They look pretty sharp, look good at your tailgate, So

1748
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 2: pick some up and grab some tostitos. Do you know

1749
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 2: what I never knew until somebody showed it to me

1750
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 2: on the Tostitos bag, the two t's around the eye. Oh,

1751
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 2: it's two people dipping nachos in salsa in the dot

1752
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 2: of the eye. I had never noticed that before. Have

1753
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 2: you had you?

1754
01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 3: No? Not until this very much.

1755
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 2: I'm glad I could share that with you.

1756
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:04,240
Speaker 3: Steve Well, I'm not saying it's life changing. I'm just saying, Oh,

1757
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 3: I wasn't indicating that it was. It's just saying, you know,

1758
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 3: you look at.

1759
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:09,760
Speaker 2: Something for a long time and you're like, oh, yeah.

1760
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 3: You see that now you can see it on the screen.

1761
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:15,559
Speaker 3: Two guys ts and then it's two people dipping dipping

1762
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 3: nachos and the os. Look at that.

1763
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 2: Symbolism. Amazing. Who are the marketing genius in the.

1764
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,559
Speaker 3: Marketing came up with that one? I love it.

1765
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,639
Speaker 2: Uh got to get back to the phone that got

1766
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 2: people waiting patiently and has promised. We're going to lead

1767
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 2: off here with Joe in Buffalo. What's up Joe?

1768
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:39,320
Speaker 22: Oh, guys, thanks for taking my call.

1769
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:40,080
Speaker 15: How you doing today?

1770
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 14: Good?

1771
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 11: Good?

1772
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 22: So, first I want to apologize if anyone's brought this up.

1773
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 22: I haven't been able to listen on me. But two things.

1774
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:50,519
Speaker 22: That's say, listening to the post game Josh Allen didn't

1775
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 22: sound so pressed. Josh Allen, Right, I wonder if there's

1776
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 22: any thought behind maybe this loss is and as big

1777
01:31:57,080 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 22: of a deal as we make it. Secondly, look back

1778
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 22: at the last fifty or Super bowls, I feel like

1779
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 22: every team's had a clunker. Right, better happened yesterday than

1780
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 22: in January. Right, So, passionate fan base, want to hear

1781
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 22: your guys' thoughts on a Yeah.

1782
01:32:14,920 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 3: There's not a season ender. I mean, right, and it's

1783
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 3: it's not indicative this, I get it. You can draw

1784
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 3: comparisons because every season and team football teams are all similar,

1785
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:27,200
Speaker 3: even though each one is unique in its own way.

1786
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 3: You know, like this year's version of the Bills is

1787
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:31,200
Speaker 3: a little different than last year's version of the Bills.

1788
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:33,680
Speaker 3: All that kind of stuff goes into the mix. And

1789
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 3: nothing about the last fifty four what is it fifty

1790
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 3: what is it fifty seven super Bowls? Nothing about the

1791
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 3: last fifty seven super Bowls and fifty eight super Bowls

1792
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,120
Speaker 3: has anything to do with this super Bowl's coming up,

1793
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 3: none of them. They're super Bowl twenty five is not

1794
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 3: going to affect this year's version of the Buffalo Bills,

1795
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 3: and the past is not going to affect anything that

1796
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:58,760
Speaker 3: happens in the future. So I get saying that, and

1797
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:03,880
Speaker 3: he's and you're right. Making the observation that every Super

1798
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:06,360
Speaker 3: Bowl team, every team that goes to the Super Bowl

1799
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:10,599
Speaker 3: and wins theor has a stinker in there somewhere except

1800
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 3: for that, you know one in nineteen Patriots team, so

1801
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 3: and the seventy two Dolphins team. And unfortunately that Patriot

1802
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 3: team stunk on the day of the Super Bowl against

1803
01:33:26,200 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 3: the Dutch Giants. Yes, every team has a stinker, and

1804
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 3: just because you have a week or a game like

1805
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 3: last night for the Buffalo Bills against Baltimore does not

1806
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:42,719
Speaker 3: exclude you from being considered as a super Bowl possibility.

1807
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 3: None of that stuff that's happened. And I do it

1808
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 3: too sometimes, I'll admit you go back and say, yeah,

1809
01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:52,000
Speaker 3: the Bills in nineteen eighty eight, they were twelve and four,

1810
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 3: then they just barely got in the playoffs. In eighty

1811
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:58,400
Speaker 3: nine or eighty eight they were twelve and four and

1812
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:00,320
Speaker 3: eighty nine they barely got in and got put out

1813
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 3: in the first round, and then they went to four

1814
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 3: straight Super Bowls. And you look back and the Bills

1815
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty were letting you know they got it,

1816
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 3: went twelve and fourty. Yeah. None of that parallel is

1817
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 3: going to mean anything. It's all about next week. It's

1818
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 3: the next game. Yeah. This hey, bad night, no question

1819
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 3: about it.

1820
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 2: And a great night for Baltimore. They played near perfect

1821
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 2: they had the Bills did not.

1822
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,720
Speaker 3: It says something about last night and that's about as

1823
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:31,599
Speaker 3: far as it goes. Both these teams, if you play,

1824
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 3: if you line them up today and started playing them

1825
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 3: again today, you might get a different result. It wouldn't

1826
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 3: be thirty five to ten. I know that, So that's yes,

1827
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 3: you're right. The Bills lost last night. Didn't play well

1828
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:52,040
Speaker 3: in a loss. Ravens did play well and got an

1829
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 3: easy victory over a really good football team. I'm sure

1830
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 3: those guys know over there. I know John Harbaugh knows this.

1831
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 3: You enjoy these because easy victory against really good football

1832
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 3: teams don't come along very often.

1833
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 2: We are up against the break here, but more of

1834
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,800
Speaker 2: your phone calls when we return in our number three

1835
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 2: here on a Buffalo Football Monday. So if you are

1836
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 2: on hold, stay there. We will get to you in

1837
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 2: the next segment. Here on One Bill's Live, presented by

1838
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 2: Coil out of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

1839
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 1: These One Bills Live presented by Colllida.

1840
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:08,800
Speaker 2: Help Here on a Buffalo Football Monday. Chris Brown, Steve

1841
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 2: Tasker with you on One Bill's Live and right back

1842
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 2: to the phone as we go, as we're looking for

1843
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:15,720
Speaker 2: your biggest takeaways from Buffalo's loss at the hands of

1844
01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 2: the Ravens on Sunday Night Football, and we lead it

1845
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 2: off with Ryan in Toronto.

1846
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 23: What's up, Ryan, Chris, Steve, I'm not say, sure, what

1847
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:26,559
Speaker 23: happened at Bills last night? I think the wakeup call

1848
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 23: for them. I don't know why they want to prepare

1849
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:30,880
Speaker 23: for the run. They did not see what what what

1850
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 23: wanted to Dallas last week. Thirdly, I want to go

1851
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 23: back to the events that Buffalo Bills have. They have

1852
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 23: three wins, all of them against teams that have a

1853
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 23: loose record. They beat the Asla Cordis one and three,

1854
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 23: They beat the Miami Dolphins, who's one and two, who

1855
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 23: they were winners only against the winless Jacksonville, and the

1856
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:53,800
Speaker 23: Bills beat an Owen Fort Jacksonville. These guys better wake

1857
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,640
Speaker 23: up because the teams ahead of them now they have

1858
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 23: CET only get much tougher. They're not gonna play Jacksonville

1859
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:01,639
Speaker 23: or Miami a game, simple as that.

1860
01:37:01,840 --> 01:37:02,280
Speaker 14: Thank you.

1861
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, you're right, and we didn't know this

1862
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 3: going in, but yeah, all those teams you mentioned are struggling.

1863
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 3: Of course, Miami is struggling because the Bills played them

1864
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 3: and their quarterback quarterback, They lost their quarterback in that game.

1865
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:19,080
Speaker 3: Jacksonville absolutely is not a good football team right now.

1866
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 3: Opening game of the season. You know, yeah, say what

1867
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 3: you want. The Cardinals, we didn't know how good they

1868
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:33,280
Speaker 3: were going to be, and it took them Bills a

1869
01:37:33,320 --> 01:37:37,120
Speaker 3: minute to find themselves last night was probably yeah, absolutely,

1870
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:38,799
Speaker 3: and we knew it was a step up in weight class.

1871
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 3: The Ravens were a much better football team than the

1872
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:43,240
Speaker 3: Bills and face despite the fact that they were one

1873
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:43,759
Speaker 3: and two.

1874
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 2: The number one in the AFC playoffs last year.

1875
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 3: That's right, and they got and you feel like offensively

1876
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 3: they put a piece in there that was missing last

1877
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:52,600
Speaker 3: year and Derrick Henry, so you knew it was a

1878
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 3: step up.

1879
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 2: And you're playing another division winner this week. That's right,

1880
01:37:57,200 --> 01:37:58,280
Speaker 2: that won a playoff game.

1881
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 3: And we knew too that last week and this week's

1882
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,639
Speaker 3: game against Houston and next week against the Jets, we're

1883
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 3: gonna be an enormous test for this club. It remains

1884
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:15,719
Speaker 3: so I do think you're I think you're right. Brownie

1885
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,639
Speaker 3: and I were lamenting it a little bit and off

1886
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 3: the air, and before the game, we thought, man, you

1887
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 3: you really almost have to in a game against Baltimore

1888
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 3: in that situation, you almost have to exaggerate your adjustments

1889
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 3: to what they're doing, because I really think if you know,

1890
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 3: almost just to hyperbolyze a little bit, go goal line

1891
01:38:37,160 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 3: defense and stop their run, and I mean don't just

1892
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:41,640
Speaker 3: stop it. Stuff it like.

1893
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 2: You're not talking about on the goal line. You're talking

1894
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 2: about out there in the middle of it.

1895
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 3: Invite them to throw the foot, Invite them to throw

1896
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 3: the football. See if they can do it. And then

1897
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 3: look at Lamar's completion charts. Look at the things that

1898
01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 3: he does with the football in the air. If he's

1899
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 3: in the pocket throwing, there's some throws he doesn't like

1900
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 3: to make, then don't give him those. See if he

1901
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 3: can do it. Defend the things that he loves to complete.

1902
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 3: Defend the throws that he throws. But you got to

1903
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 3: stop the run first and foremost, and invite them to

1904
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 3: beat you in a way that they are not good

1905
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 3: at beating people. In the games that they have lost,

1906
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 3: they threw the ball thirty four times in one forty

1907
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 3: one times in the other. Most defensive coordinat you're afraid

1908
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:32,600
Speaker 3: of when a team throws the football because there's a

1909
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 3: throwing leave it. Some teams don't throw it, well I don't.

1910
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 24: I don't.

1911
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:39,720
Speaker 3: I think Baltimore's one of them. Now you can look

1912
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,960
Speaker 3: at the at the numbers and the stats for Lamar,

1913
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:46,920
Speaker 3: like in Week one, he was twenty six to forty one.

1914
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:51,200
Speaker 3: That's sixty three percent, I believe. Or yeah, sixty three

1915
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 3: percent with a TD and a ninety rating. I'm gonna

1916
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 3: make sure that number. But that's it sounds Hey great,

1917
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:03,599
Speaker 3: he's they lost and they only scored twenty points. Don't

1918
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:08,400
Speaker 3: be afraid to get these teams to do what they

1919
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 3: don't do well, even if it's even if it's dangerous,

1920
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 3: even if it's dangerous. I'm I'm a big fan of that. Ryan.

1921
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 3: Force them into doing something they're not good at, invite

1922
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 3: them to do it, and then take advantage of them

1923
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:22,040
Speaker 3: if they can't.

1924
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:25,840
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and to John in

1925
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 2: Orchard Park. What's up John?

1926
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 7: Hey, Hey, thanks for taking my call?

1927
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 2: Sure, yea.

1928
01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 7: Mine is a rules question. So I'm watching the replay

1929
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:38,320
Speaker 7: of the game changing flea flicker on Twitter, and it's

1930
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 7: clear that the Ravens defender was penalized for hitting Josh

1931
01:40:43,479 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 7: that occurred before possession was taken by the Ravens. So

1932
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:51,040
Speaker 7: I'm wondering why wasn't it first down bills and why

1933
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 7: did they move the Ravens.

1934
01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 3: Back after they did not penalize the guy that hit Josh.

1935
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:59,919
Speaker 3: They penalized the guy that hit Dawson Knochy their Dolton.

1936
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 2: Can care they poked him in the eye.

1937
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:04,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was not That was not a foul on

1938
01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:05,520
Speaker 3: the guy that hit Josh.

1939
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:07,679
Speaker 7: Okay, all right, that makes sense.

1940
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:09,080
Speaker 13: Then, yep, thank you.

1941
01:41:09,080 --> 01:41:10,120
Speaker 2: Glad we could help you. John.

1942
01:41:10,560 --> 01:41:10,680
Speaker 17: Uh.

1943
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 2: Let's go to Bill in Buffalo next. What's up Bill?

1944
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 17: Yes, I was wondering about that Dave Casper rule when

1945
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 17: he when Henry fumbled into the end zone and their

1946
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:24,599
Speaker 17: guy recovered that been brought back.

1947
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 3: No, what happens? H No, if it's they changed that

1948
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 3: rule a couple of different times. But you're right if

1949
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:35,439
Speaker 3: it used to be because of the Dave Casper rule.

1950
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,120
Speaker 3: If you fumbled the ball forward.

1951
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:38,680
Speaker 2: It can't be advanced.

1952
01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:39,880
Speaker 3: It can't be advanced.

1953
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:44,759
Speaker 17: You can recover it, recover recovered as Dave Casper or Henry.

1954
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 3: No, no, his own teammate can recover it. He just

1955
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 3: can't pick it up and run down the field with it.

1956
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:54,479
Speaker 3: And they unified that. They they made that uniform instead

1957
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:56,479
Speaker 3: of having two different rules for out in the field

1958
01:41:56,880 --> 01:42:00,519
Speaker 3: and then in the end zone, they made the same

1959
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 3: rule out of if it's on fourth down or something

1960
01:42:05,400 --> 01:42:07,840
Speaker 3: like that. You can't scoop it and run it. If

1961
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,680
Speaker 3: it's fumbled forward, if you're on the offensive side of

1962
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:13,000
Speaker 3: the ball, you can only recover it.

1963
01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:14,720
Speaker 2: It also wasn't the last two minutes of the.

1964
01:42:14,640 --> 01:42:16,760
Speaker 3: Game right, that's right in the end zone.

1965
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 2: It was eleven minutes left, that's right.

1966
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 3: They changed that. They changed that and took the Dave

1967
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 3: Casper rule out, I believe.

1968
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:27,880
Speaker 17: Okay, another thing, the Bills they played all right, They

1969
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:31,720
Speaker 17: just that offensive coordinator. He just had he just had

1970
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 17: a great.

1971
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:34,280
Speaker 2: Plan for the Ravens.

1972
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 17: You're talking about, Yeah, yeah, you have the Ravens. They

1973
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 17: had a great plan.

1974
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think yeah, And that's what we've been talking about.

1975
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 3: You really have to They got a great team. They

1976
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:47,599
Speaker 3: got a really good team. And it's different than everybody

1977
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 3: else's team. And I'm not saying that to be obvious.

1978
01:42:50,240 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 3: I'm saying it because they're built different. They got to

1979
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 3: They have a three hundred pound full back, they got

1980
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:57,679
Speaker 3: a two hundred and fifty pounds running back, and they got.

1981
01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:59,919
Speaker 2: A quarterback who runs the four to three.

1982
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:03,360
Speaker 3: Who's running back as well as a quarterback. And his

1983
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 3: big criticism has been that he's too much of a

1984
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:08,240
Speaker 3: running back. So they've got that kind of vibe going on.

1985
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,439
Speaker 3: Think what you want about Lamar, the guy's two time MVP.

1986
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 3: He's good. So they got all that going on with

1987
01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:18,519
Speaker 3: a couple of really good tight ends who catch the

1988
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:22,000
Speaker 3: ball really well. So that's the kind of that is

1989
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:26,839
Speaker 3: not a typical NFL offense. So in order to combat

1990
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:28,640
Speaker 3: it and take them out of their game plan, you

1991
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 3: got to do different things defensively. Then most teams are

1992
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:35,000
Speaker 3: built to do. The Bills got caught in that a

1993
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:35,800
Speaker 3: little bit last night.

1994
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 2: I think let's go to Dennis in Blaisdell next. What's

1995
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 2: up Dennis?

1996
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 25: Hello, thanks for taking my call. Sure if you hit

1997
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:47,639
Speaker 25: it right on the button. When you just mentioned about

1998
01:43:47,680 --> 01:43:51,640
Speaker 25: taking away what they what they do best, Coach billcheck

1999
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 25: he he taught us that for years he would for

2000
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,599
Speaker 25: he would take away where you do best and force

2001
01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 25: you to do what he wanted you to do it

2002
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 25: and furs the run from with Henry the first play

2003
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 25: from scrimmage. They seen that on tape, They seen the

2004
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:10,719
Speaker 25: defense they practiced all week and said, when the Bills

2005
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 25: defense with their personnel is in this formation, we're gonna

2006
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 25: run this now. We might only pop this play for

2007
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:24,240
Speaker 25: fifteen eighteen maybe twenty yards. Their eyes were popping out

2008
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:27,120
Speaker 25: when they lined up for the first first snap and

2009
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 25: they said, during the formation we talked about all week,

2010
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:32,960
Speaker 25: and I'll be danged, he didn't take it for eighty

2011
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 25: some yards and that car on offensive coordinator calling that

2012
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 25: that play, that place should have never been called. We

2013
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:48,200
Speaker 25: were just just starting to turn a little bit of

2014
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 25: momentum our way, and that's what you did. We got

2015
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:55,680
Speaker 25: handed a game to us with the bills handed to

2016
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:59,080
Speaker 25: Jacksonville last week. So let's just brush it off. When

2017
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 25: the next two, Thank god about our business. Thank you?

2018
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 13: All right?

2019
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 3: Fair enough, Well I'm all for one in the next two. Yeah.

2020
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a second and seven play, right, it's called.

2021
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:14,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's the thing. When van neyd comes across the

2022
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage and gets in the way of Curtis

2023
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 3: Samuel making that play, you got to eat it.

2024
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he should have eaten, eaten the ball and just

2025
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:22,960
Speaker 2: taken the loss. Now it's a loss of three.

2026
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 3: Maybe all of a sudden it starts to cascade and

2027
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 3: you know, you got to take your losses. There. Everybody

2028
01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 3: gets on Josh for you know, doing a heroic thing.

2029
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:36,280
Speaker 3: You know, Samuel's kind of does it there. You had

2030
01:45:36,280 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 3: no business giving that ball back to Josh.

2031
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,600
Speaker 2: So you take a loss there looking at third and

2032
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 2: ten or third and eleven it had been.

2033
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:44,599
Speaker 3: For yeah, yeah, or and I get it. I mean

2034
01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:46,640
Speaker 3: when nice if Josh could have gotten rid of this

2035
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 3: and thrown it or whatever, but he gets it. He

2036
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 3: takes a shot.

2037
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:53,720
Speaker 2: That is he said it hurt his lower serious, that's

2038
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:54,320
Speaker 2: what was hurting.

2039
01:45:54,720 --> 01:46:00,160
Speaker 3: But Curtis Samuel's got to eat that man, just eat it. So, oh,

2040
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's the worst possible it's the worst

2041
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 3: possible outcome obviously to that, unless they you know, return

2042
01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 3: it for a TD. But you know, turning the ball

2043
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 3: over on a second and seven play, you know. And

2044
01:46:15,040 --> 01:46:19,479
Speaker 3: I get it too. And I if if it goes perfectly,

2045
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 3: if van Neid trips and falls and can't get there

2046
01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 3: and Josh comes over and throws that and it's a

2047
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 3: huge gain or even a touchdown, it's all forgiven. And

2048
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 3: Joe Brady is right back to the top of the mountain.

2049
01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:32,320
Speaker 3: He's a genius play caller, doesn't But because that happened,

2050
01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 3: and because van Noid makes a tremendous play, you know

2051
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 3: he's gonna he's gonna take some shots. You know, Joe

2052
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:45,680
Speaker 3: Brady's gonna get criticized for it. It's all about the result.

2053
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 3: And that play was blown up by a really good

2054
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:53,120
Speaker 3: player and U And it was a I don't know,

2055
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 3: probably one or two mistakes by the Bills on the

2056
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:59,759
Speaker 3: same play that caused the turnover, both eating neither Josh

2057
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:04,000
Speaker 3: nor or Curtis Samuel ate the football. They kept trying

2058
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,640
Speaker 3: to keep it going and keep it going. No, just

2059
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:09,519
Speaker 3: throw the ball out of bounds.

2060
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 2: Is the better part of there.

2061
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, just take your losses.

2062
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:15,920
Speaker 2: Back to the phones into Jim in Buffalo. What's up, Jim?

2063
01:47:17,160 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 25: Uh?

2064
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 19: Hi, guys, I'm calling to Uh. We're just something that

2065
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:25,719
Speaker 19: was bothering me. As I'm watching the game, I'm looking

2066
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:28,439
Speaker 19: at the two hundred and fifty pounds running back and

2067
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:30,800
Speaker 19: I remember Derrick Henry tore us up a couple of

2068
01:47:30,840 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 19: years ago. I think he played for Tennessee, and I'm thinking,

2069
01:47:34,840 --> 01:47:38,759
Speaker 19: we've got We've got that three hundred pound rugby player.

2070
01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:43,080
Speaker 19: We've and I'm wondering where whatever happened to Van prin

2071
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 19: Granger six foot eight, three hundred pounds.

2072
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 2: That's not he's not six foot.

2073
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 19: Eight, well, six foot seven whatever. He is now.

2074
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:54,559
Speaker 3: You're talking about you know, he's talking about the rugby player,

2075
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 3: not Van Pring.

2076
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's six seven, three hundred, he's an international player

2077
01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 2: designation and he's on injured reserve.

2078
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:06,240
Speaker 19: Okay, I mean the reason I'm just I was just

2079
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:10,920
Speaker 19: wondering because it looked like we were not just outplayed,

2080
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:11,960
Speaker 19: we were out beefed.

2081
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's kind of what Steve has been saying

2082
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:17,639
Speaker 2: the entire show. You should have done something. You can

2083
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:21,400
Speaker 2: make the argument to do something unconventional, Jim, and that

2084
01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:25,720
Speaker 2: could be putting six defensive linemen on the field and

2085
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 2: lining up a cross play a fifty front with five

2086
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:31,519
Speaker 2: defensive linemen. I mean, you only play two linebackers most

2087
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 2: of the time anyway, So I don't I can't see

2088
01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 2: it being too terribly foreign. So try that. Try something unconventional.

2089
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:41,640
Speaker 2: But if they didn't have it in a package in

2090
01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 2: their game plan, they're not going to turn to it

2091
01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 2: because their players don't know how to execute it because

2092
01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:48,400
Speaker 2: they didn't rep it right. And that's the problem. Right,

2093
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,640
Speaker 2: So in the future, if you see this team in

2094
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:54,519
Speaker 2: the playoffs, you should have a package of plays like that,

2095
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 2: because you didn't prove last night you could stop them

2096
01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:00,479
Speaker 2: with your conventional defense. So think a little bit outside

2097
01:49:00,560 --> 01:49:03,120
Speaker 2: the box and come up with something unique. We watch

2098
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:06,840
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick do that for thirty years here in Buffalo,

2099
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:10,479
Speaker 2: come up with some kind of unique game plan, and

2100
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:13,640
Speaker 2: oftentimes it would work to perfection. He did it in

2101
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:17,880
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, for God's sake. So who's to say the

2102
01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,960
Speaker 2: Bills can't do that. They've got some brilliant defensive minds.

2103
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:22,920
Speaker 3: And you got it. What happens is in the week's

2104
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:24,559
Speaker 3: leading up to us. Say, for instance, you got the

2105
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:27,559
Speaker 3: Bills closing in on a division title or a wild

2106
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 3: card and their game, you're game clear, and you're thinking, okay,

2107
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 3: Baltimore's is a possible matchup. You start installing six man

2108
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 3: fronts or fifty fronts specifically for Baltimore's running attack, and

2109
01:49:41,479 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 3: you do it a couple of weeks in advance, just

2110
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:44,880
Speaker 3: rep it a couple of times during practice, in the

2111
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:47,640
Speaker 3: downtime between periods or something. You get guys over and

2112
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 3: you run them through reps and you get them looks,

2113
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 3: and you run it through a couple of times. You

2114
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 3: do that weekend, week out for a couple of weeks

2115
01:49:54,160 --> 01:49:55,760
Speaker 3: leading up to it. So when you do get to

2116
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 3: that game, you've installed it, and they'll feel good about it,

2117
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 3: show what it looks like on film from other teams

2118
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:05,400
Speaker 3: who have done it, or or you know, a fac

2119
01:50:05,479 --> 01:50:08,800
Speaker 3: simile thereof, and you go with it. You get it

2120
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 3: installed during the season on the on the fly, and

2121
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 3: you got a couple of weeks to do it if

2122
01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 3: you can see that game coming down the pipe. But

2123
01:50:15,640 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 3: there's no guarantee you'll need it. But if you do,

2124
01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:20,680
Speaker 3: at least you've got that to go to because, like

2125
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 3: I said, we've seen it too much here in the

2126
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 3: AFC East when you had this that chameleon game plan

2127
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 3: stuff going on in New England where they were a

2128
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:33,680
Speaker 3: different kind of team every single week. They would be

2129
01:50:33,720 --> 01:50:35,519
Speaker 3: a three man front of you know, they'd be a

2130
01:50:36,200 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 3: three four one week and a four to three the next.

2131
01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:39,760
Speaker 2: And you remember what they did to the Rams in

2132
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. I mean they scored three points in

2133
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:45,000
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, right, they played a completely different defense.

2134
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:48,120
Speaker 2: They'd been playing zone all year and they started playing

2135
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 2: man to man and switched up their defense completely and

2136
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:56,599
Speaker 2: Jared Goff never figured it out lost to the Super Bowl.

2137
01:50:56,680 --> 01:50:59,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's so you got to be a little

2138
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 3: bit will and able to do that, and that coupled

2139
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,479
Speaker 3: the fact that the Bills weren't coupled with the fact

2140
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:10,240
Speaker 3: that a team that was specifically built differently than everybody else,

2141
01:51:11,160 --> 01:51:12,320
Speaker 3: it spells big problems.

2142
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 2: And I think our last caller was referring to more

2143
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 2: beef on the offensive line. The Bills have it. I'll

2144
01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:21,120
Speaker 2: give you a height and weight across the front right now,

2145
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 2: left to right six five three twenty six six three

2146
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 2: eight six five three eighteen six five three thirty six

2147
01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 2: eight three eleven. They have beef.

2148
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:34,519
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, They're plenty big enough on the offensive front.

2149
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:35,240
Speaker 2: They have it.

2150
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 3: The problem up and we've been We talked about this

2151
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 3: earlier in the show as well. One of the problems

2152
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:40,840
Speaker 3: the Bills had yesterday was they couldn't get a hat

2153
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 3: on a hat all the time. They'd have offensive linemen

2154
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 3: with nobody in front of him to when the ball

2155
01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,000
Speaker 3: was snapped, the guy in front of him left and

2156
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:51,559
Speaker 3: they were looking for somebody to block.

2157
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:53,879
Speaker 2: And that's why we talked earlier in the show about

2158
01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:57,760
Speaker 2: it was likely that there were protection errors and miscues.

2159
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even Josha course of the game, Josh to

2160
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:03,200
Speaker 3: it in his postgame comments as well about the communication

2161
01:52:03,280 --> 01:52:04,879
Speaker 3: between himself and the offensive got.

2162
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 2: Out schemed and out execute it. That's kind of how

2163
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:12,559
Speaker 2: everything became so lopsided in this game because both of

2164
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:15,639
Speaker 2: those things happened through the course of the game. Let's

2165
01:52:15,680 --> 01:52:17,680
Speaker 2: go to Mike on a cell next. Let me pull

2166
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:20,479
Speaker 2: him up here. What do you got for his Mike

2167
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 2: here on one Bill's Live.

2168
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 16: Hey all, I got to say kind of embarrassing. I

2169
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 16: just it looked like a totally different team from what

2170
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 16: we saw the past three games.

2171
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:35,920
Speaker 17: Our defense.

2172
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:40,960
Speaker 16: The Steve wasn't just there wasn't Steve. They weren't picking

2173
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:44,640
Speaker 16: light lanes. Josh, he looked, he looked like he was

2174
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:47,479
Speaker 16: hurt and poppy. I mean when he when he got

2175
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 16: knocked in his row, you could see it was days.

2176
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 16: I thought for sure he was.

2177
01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:53,040
Speaker 24: Gonna be gone for the game.

2178
01:52:53,439 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 16: But I mean it's just.

2179
01:52:58,040 --> 01:52:58,719
Speaker 26: The coaching.

2180
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:04,439
Speaker 24: I mean, I probably he had good coaches, but they're

2181
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 24: not picking up what you guys are talking about at least,

2182
01:53:07,640 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 24: you know. I mean, they can be a little bit

2183
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:15,840
Speaker 24: more then you know, and play according to the personnel

2184
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:18,479
Speaker 24: of the other team. It just seemed like they.

2185
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 15: Were so fast.

2186
01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 3: The rat Yeah, Josh alluded to that, and yeah, thanks Mike,

2187
01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 3: You're right, Josh mentioned a lot about the urgency that

2188
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 3: Ravens played with your more energy. The Bills look flat

2189
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 3: a little bit in a in a tough environment on

2190
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 3: the road against a team that was flying high, that

2191
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:43,360
Speaker 3: a little more desperate than Buffalo, no question about it. Yeah, yeah,

2192
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:46,400
Speaker 3: We've talked about it a lot about you know, this

2193
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 3: team this game did. The team did look different last night,

2194
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 3: no question about it. And that's good. Good on the Ravens.

2195
01:53:56,280 --> 01:53:57,880
Speaker 3: You know, the Bills have got to play better, no

2196
01:53:58,000 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 3: question about it. And they'll tell you that as well.

2197
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 3: Not not being inventive enough as coaches. Okay, I'm neither

2198
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:12,880
Speaker 3: here nor there on that. I do think they needed

2199
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 3: to adjust a little faster than they did. And obviously

2200
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:18,559
Speaker 3: when they came into this game, their plan wasn't good enough.

2201
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:22,760
Speaker 3: And even their plan B seemed like she got out

2202
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:25,800
Speaker 3: flanked a little shaky. So yeah, there's there's there might

2203
01:54:25,840 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 3: be something in that.

2204
01:54:26,720 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 2: And I'm not going to pretend to know what the

2205
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 2: coaching staff was thinking. I'm not going to pretend to

2206
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 2: know how to put a game plan together. But it

2207
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 2: does make me wonder each of the last two weeks.

2208
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 2: You hold your opponents to ten points. You know, maybe

2209
01:54:40,920 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 2: did you think let's just keep doing what we're doing

2210
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:45,800
Speaker 2: and we're gonna we do our thing, because that was

2211
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 2: the mantra from the players all week. If we heard

2212
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,960
Speaker 2: players and interviews, Oh what about Derek Henry, what about

2213
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:53,080
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson? Well, we just have to do what we do.

2214
01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 2: That was the message they got from the coaching staff,

2215
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,600
Speaker 2: like we just play our defense, we'll be fine. Well,

2216
01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:01,440
Speaker 2: that was that was a miss. That was a miss

2217
01:55:01,440 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 2: on that assessment. Right, they had to do something more

2218
01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 2: inventive to our last caller's point to be more effective

2219
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 2: against an outlier of an offense in this league. Let's

2220
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 2: go to Mike in Niagara Falls next. What do you

2221
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:15,600
Speaker 2: got for us? Hold on what he got for his

2222
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:17,640
Speaker 2: mic Hey?

2223
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:21,040
Speaker 27: Yeah, you guys touched on this a lot in previous conversations.

2224
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 27: So I don't want to beat at that horse, but

2225
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:25,920
Speaker 27: I just feel like McDermott is very reluctant to get

2226
01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:28,160
Speaker 27: out of that four to five, and he's just going

2227
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:30,680
Speaker 27: to have the men to do it. You know, you're

2228
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 27: missing Mulonal, You're missing you're starting middle linebackers essentially, and

2229
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 27: you don't have Karen Johnson who's essentially a linebacker at

2230
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:43,560
Speaker 27: two hundred pounds. I mean, they didn't start winning the

2231
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:48,040
Speaker 27: line of scrimmage until he started listing like they they

2232
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:51,880
Speaker 27: totally dropped the ball on this entire game plan. And

2233
01:55:51,920 --> 01:55:53,040
Speaker 27: that's all I'm McDermott.

2234
01:55:54,600 --> 01:55:57,400
Speaker 2: Well, the other problem too, is when they did go

2235
01:55:57,480 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 2: to base defense, Mike, you had Nick morro in there, who,

2236
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:06,640
Speaker 2: for all intents and purposes, is the fifth linebacker on

2237
01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:09,840
Speaker 2: your depth chart, and he's your starting strong side linebacker.

2238
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 2: I mean, we talked about it on our podcast, Bills

2239
01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:16,960
Speaker 2: by the Numbers. There is a thing called the law

2240
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:21,400
Speaker 2: of diminishing returns. You can only sustain so many player

2241
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:25,160
Speaker 2: losses to injury before an inevitable drop off is going

2242
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 2: to occur. And that reached critical mass against an opponent

2243
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:33,160
Speaker 2: that was hitting on all cylinders and has the strengths

2244
01:56:33,160 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 2: that you perfectly cannot match up with. They did not

2245
01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:39,920
Speaker 2: have a good answer at the second level of their

2246
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:42,640
Speaker 2: defense to match up with what Baltimore was throwing at them,

2247
01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 2: which is why Steve and I today were saying, that's

2248
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 2: why came to a point in time where you probably

2249
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 2: have to think outside the box. Even if you play

2250
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:52,960
Speaker 2: this team in the playoffs in January and Mulano and

2251
01:56:52,960 --> 01:56:55,880
Speaker 2: Bernard are on the field with Tarren Johnson. I'm still

2252
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:59,760
Speaker 2: gonna tell you you should try fifty front mix in

2253
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:04,040
Speaker 2: defensive lineman, something to force Lamar Jackson to say, all right,

2254
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 2: we're gonna check out of this run play because they

2255
01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:07,960
Speaker 2: have nine guys in the box and we're gonna try

2256
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:10,720
Speaker 2: to throw it. And then you're relying on your two

2257
01:57:10,840 --> 01:57:14,680
Speaker 2: lights out corners Christian Benford and Rasul Douglas. And if

2258
01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:17,080
Speaker 2: you believe in those guys like I believe this defensive

2259
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:20,200
Speaker 2: staff does, let them get tested a couple of times

2260
01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 2: and see what happens. If they beat you well, then

2261
01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:23,800
Speaker 2: you tip your hat to them and maybe you go

2262
01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:25,040
Speaker 2: back to what you like doing best.

2263
01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:27,040
Speaker 3: There might be I think I hadn't thought about it,

2264
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 3: but you're probably right. I mean, they've they've been playing

2265
01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 3: extremely well since since.

2266
01:57:31,480 --> 01:57:32,560
Speaker 2: The second week.

2267
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:34,839
Speaker 3: Could have seen a quarter and a half into the season,

2268
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:40,520
Speaker 3: one quarter and a half in the second half, right, yeah,

2269
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 3: a quarter and a half of football against the Arizona Cardinals,

2270
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:46,560
Speaker 3: and then on all the games you know since they

2271
01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 3: have played extremely well defensively. So this this staff probably

2272
01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 3: had made well. Obviously when you factor in Baltimore the

2273
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 3: full sense of security. So let's play the way we've

2274
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 3: been playing and see if we can do this. And

2275
01:57:58,920 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 3: they got exposed, and you've got to really have a

2276
01:58:01,720 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 3: solid plan and I think make personnel decisions when you

2277
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:09,960
Speaker 3: play the Ravens. Nobody else in the league has built

2278
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,400
Speaker 3: like these guys. You've really got to go out and say,

2279
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:14,320
Speaker 3: all right, we're gonna do this. We're gonna go into

2280
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:17,400
Speaker 3: a fifty front with two lines. We're gonna put eight

2281
01:58:17,600 --> 01:58:20,120
Speaker 3: seven or eight big dudes at the line of scrimmage,

2282
01:58:20,160 --> 01:58:22,720
Speaker 3: and if you want to throw it, let's see it.

2283
01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 3: You got to invite them to do that. I know

2284
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 3: that sounds crazy. In the league is built to throw,

2285
01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:33,000
Speaker 3: but I'm when it's Baltimore. They're not built for it.

2286
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:35,960
Speaker 3: They're not built for that. No, make them beat you

2287
01:58:36,040 --> 01:58:39,080
Speaker 3: left handed and it And I think for a team

2288
01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:40,840
Speaker 3: as good as Baltimore is in their run game and

2289
01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 3: the physicality they show with a defense that kind of

2290
01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:44,520
Speaker 3: keeps it close.

2291
01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:46,760
Speaker 2: No question, you've got to do a lot of convincing.

2292
01:58:46,800 --> 01:58:48,400
Speaker 3: You've got to do a lot of convincing. You've got

2293
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:51,080
Speaker 3: to go overboard getting them out of what they want

2294
01:58:51,080 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 3: to do. Nobody has been willing to do that yet.

2295
01:58:55,320 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 3: The only time the Chiefs was a good game, but

2296
01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:00,920
Speaker 3: you think about how that close that game really was

2297
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:03,040
Speaker 3: with the toe tap at the back of the end zone.

2298
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:07,480
Speaker 3: And then you've got the Vegas game where Vegas scored

2299
01:59:07,520 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 3: sixteen points and wins. You know they you really got

2300
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:15,200
Speaker 3: to convince them to do something different, and that's hard

2301
01:59:15,240 --> 01:59:17,840
Speaker 3: to do. It's really hard to do. Nobody's done it yet,

2302
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:20,240
Speaker 3: I don't think even though they've lost two games.

2303
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 2: Break time for us here more of your phone calls.

2304
01:59:23,040 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 2: When we come back, Open lines for you at eighth

2305
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 2: three zho five to fifty one eight eight eight five

2306
01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:29,480
Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty will lead off with Ron and

2307
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:31,720
Speaker 2: Virginia when we return here on one Bills Live on

2308
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 2: a Buffalo Football Monday. This week's efficient drive of the

2309
01:59:50,240 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 2: game is presented by National Grid, a proud partner of

2310
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:58,560
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, and it was the only touchdown drive

2311
01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:01,640
Speaker 2: of the game for Buffalo. Third order four plays sixty

2312
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:05,120
Speaker 2: yards took two twenty seven off the clock and culminated

2313
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:09,440
Speaker 2: in a three yard touchdown run by Ty Johnson had

2314
02:00:09,440 --> 02:00:13,560
Speaker 2: a receiving touchdown the week before a rushing touchdown last

2315
02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:17,440
Speaker 2: night and that cut the deficit to twenty one to ten.

2316
02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:19,960
Speaker 2: But it would prove to be as close as the

2317
02:00:19,960 --> 02:00:22,760
Speaker 2: Bills got as he bounced it outside in a race

2318
02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:24,040
Speaker 2: to the pylon and got there.

2319
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this was the play. This was obviously a

2320
02:00:27,320 --> 02:00:30,800
Speaker 3: play late after the Shakir fifty two yard catch from

2321
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:34,160
Speaker 3: Josh on the sideline. It's a nice bounce out by

2322
02:00:34,160 --> 02:00:36,080
Speaker 3: Tyd Johnson. It looked like he was gonna get stopped

2323
02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:38,800
Speaker 3: because there were three ravens chasing him. He just out

2324
02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:41,760
Speaker 3: ran into the pilon. They had been choice man that

2325
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:47,040
Speaker 3: the jump cut he made at the edge was the explosion.

2326
02:00:47,080 --> 02:00:49,480
Speaker 3: He got outside out flank those guys right away and

2327
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:52,480
Speaker 3: it was turned it into a foot race. And good

2328
02:00:52,520 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 3: on him for getting to the corner. Of course, Shakiir.

2329
02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:58,480
Speaker 3: We're watching the play to Shakir here, that was, you know,

2330
02:00:58,520 --> 02:00:59,760
Speaker 3: the play of the night for the Bills.

2331
02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 2: I'm just noticing Mac Collins has his hands out like

2332
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:05,880
Speaker 2: lateral it to me there at the end of the play.

2333
02:01:05,880 --> 02:01:07,920
Speaker 2: Did you see that? I did not see that Mac

2334
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:10,440
Speaker 2: Collins is on the other side of the field. When

2335
02:01:10,440 --> 02:01:12,760
Speaker 2: Shakiir catches the ball, he races over to him. And

2336
02:01:12,840 --> 02:01:15,000
Speaker 2: as he's being tackled, he's got his hands out, like

2337
02:01:15,080 --> 02:01:16,640
Speaker 2: lateral it to me and I'll take it into the

2338
02:01:16,680 --> 02:01:19,360
Speaker 2: end zone. He's got his hands out. It's pretty crazy.

2339
02:01:19,480 --> 02:01:23,440
Speaker 2: I've just noticed it. That was a ridiculous play though

2340
02:01:23,440 --> 02:01:23,880
Speaker 2: by Jose.

2341
02:01:24,720 --> 02:01:28,200
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable throw. He's done it. We've seen it, like,

2342
02:01:28,280 --> 02:01:31,960
Speaker 3: what is it double digit times now? Six of seven,

2343
02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:35,000
Speaker 3: three touchdowns, six of seven, so we've seen it seven times.

2344
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:37,560
Speaker 2: I remember the Gave Davis touched out up in New

2345
02:01:37,560 --> 02:01:39,760
Speaker 2: England last year in Week seven. He's like a hair's

2346
02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:42,840
Speaker 2: breath out of bounds, falling out of bounds, throws it

2347
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:46,440
Speaker 2: to Gave for a touchdown. He almost did one to

2348
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:48,680
Speaker 2: Tie Johnson in week two at Miami he got down

2349
02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:49,360
Speaker 2: to the one yard.

2350
02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:52,000
Speaker 3: That was another one that was just like this play.

2351
02:01:53,520 --> 02:01:54,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2352
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:57,680
Speaker 2: He's a freakazoin. That's all you need to know. It

2353
02:01:57,800 --> 02:02:00,760
Speaker 2: is back to the phones and to Ron in Virginia.

2354
02:02:00,880 --> 02:02:05,280
Speaker 2: What's up? Ron?

2355
02:02:06,320 --> 02:02:07,600
Speaker 21: Yeah you Ron?

2356
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:08,400
Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

2357
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:10,560
Speaker 28: Can you hear me?

2358
02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2359
02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:14,600
Speaker 28: Yeah, thank you? Sorry about that. I appreciate you guys

2360
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:17,200
Speaker 28: taking my call. I agree with both of you guys,

2361
02:02:17,480 --> 02:02:20,200
Speaker 28: I think unfortunately though we were just a tad bit

2362
02:02:20,320 --> 02:02:24,520
Speaker 28: maybe unprepared because it looked like they were dominating us.

2363
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:27,920
Speaker 28: And also back in the day when we played the Ravens,

2364
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:31,200
Speaker 28: when we had like hide employer, they kept preaching I disciplined,

2365
02:02:31,280 --> 02:02:35,120
Speaker 28: I discipline and I don't know what it is, but

2366
02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:40,000
Speaker 28: they were just like doing different like they would say,

2367
02:02:40,040 --> 02:02:42,440
Speaker 28: they're going one way, run the other way. I forgot

2368
02:02:42,440 --> 02:02:45,360
Speaker 28: the term, but sorry about that, but mister, it just

2369
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:48,640
Speaker 28: Buffalo is a lot better. I projected us to be

2370
02:02:48,760 --> 02:02:51,720
Speaker 28: like thirteen and three, but I mean that was just

2371
02:02:51,800 --> 02:02:54,680
Speaker 28: kind of like they just kind of kicked our tails.

2372
02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:57,480
Speaker 28: And please forgive me, but that just looked like we

2373
02:02:57,480 --> 02:03:01,720
Speaker 28: were unprepared, and that was kind of said, could Buffalo

2374
02:03:01,720 --> 02:03:04,840
Speaker 28: should have beat them about thirty nine? Us could be

2375
02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:07,200
Speaker 28: about thirty But thank you for your time. I appreciate it.

2376
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:09,400
Speaker 3: And you guys rocked all right, right, yeah, And it

2377
02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:11,400
Speaker 3: always looks like that when you lose it by twenty five,

2378
02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:14,040
Speaker 3: it looks like you're unprepared. I mean, it looks like

2379
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:18,000
Speaker 3: you got caught napping. And certainly in this game last night,

2380
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:21,120
Speaker 3: from the jump when they snap off an eighty seven

2381
02:03:21,240 --> 02:03:23,360
Speaker 3: yard touchdown run right out of the gate, you look

2382
02:03:23,840 --> 02:03:28,480
Speaker 3: flat footed and slow, and then when you you know,

2383
02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:32,600
Speaker 3: Josh is pressured on half his half of his dropbacks

2384
02:03:32,680 --> 02:03:35,480
Speaker 3: or virtually half of his dropbacks, Josh got pressure in

2385
02:03:35,480 --> 02:03:43,240
Speaker 3: his face. That's a problem. And this team got to

2386
02:03:43,320 --> 02:03:46,400
Speaker 3: three and zero because they were winning the line of scrimmage.

2387
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:52,160
Speaker 3: They did not do that last night. So, yeah, you're

2388
02:03:52,240 --> 02:03:54,720
Speaker 3: right they It always looks bad when you have a

2389
02:03:54,760 --> 02:03:59,320
Speaker 3: game like this. Certainly they didn't do something that like.

2390
02:03:59,360 --> 02:04:01,800
Speaker 3: They didn't lay out on the job, they didn't not practice,

2391
02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:03,920
Speaker 3: they didn't not prepare for this game. They didn't not

2392
02:04:04,160 --> 02:04:06,680
Speaker 3: put in a game plan they thought was valid and

2393
02:04:06,840 --> 02:04:09,480
Speaker 3: sound and had all the chances to do as well

2394
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:12,040
Speaker 3: as they had been doing to this point, but none

2395
02:04:12,040 --> 02:04:13,880
Speaker 3: of it came to fruition. And you got to, like,

2396
02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:18,320
Speaker 3: as you watch the film, ask yourself why, what could

2397
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:20,720
Speaker 3: we have done better? And you also ask what would

2398
02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:23,000
Speaker 3: have been the perfect game plan? What would we have done?

2399
02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:25,240
Speaker 3: Could we have done to make it perfect for us?

2400
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:27,920
Speaker 3: In hindsight? What were they going to do? And what

2401
02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:31,040
Speaker 3: would we have done perfectly? You ask yourself that question

2402
02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:33,000
Speaker 3: too to find out what kind of mindset you would

2403
02:04:33,040 --> 02:04:34,960
Speaker 3: have had to be in to be perfect. All of

2404
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:36,600
Speaker 3: that stuff goes into the stew here. You're trying to

2405
02:04:36,640 --> 02:04:40,360
Speaker 3: learn everything you can about your process and about what

2406
02:04:40,400 --> 02:04:42,760
Speaker 3: it takes not just to play a game, but that

2407
02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:46,200
Speaker 3: game in particular, and you try and get there every week,

2408
02:04:46,800 --> 02:04:50,080
Speaker 3: and so all of that's in this and you're right

2409
02:04:50,120 --> 02:04:54,720
Speaker 3: when you lose by twenty five. Yeah, it's a sad

2410
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:58,520
Speaker 3: flight home. And you know, fans will stew on work,

2411
02:04:58,600 --> 02:05:00,960
Speaker 3: you know, as fans, and we're going to talk about

2412
02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:04,160
Speaker 3: this game probably until I don't know, Wednesday. I guess

2413
02:05:04,840 --> 02:05:07,280
Speaker 3: we'll probably turn the page, start to turn the page tomorrow,

2414
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:09,680
Speaker 3: but we stew on it for a couple of days.

2415
02:05:09,680 --> 02:05:11,720
Speaker 3: We want we got to digest everything that it means

2416
02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:14,680
Speaker 3: and what happened. The players, coach that they've it's gone

2417
02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:18,880
Speaker 3: right now, they're thinking about Houston, they're talking about game plans, player,

2418
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:22,240
Speaker 3: they're trying to get healthy, they're working towards this next game.

2419
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:24,320
Speaker 3: So it's easier for them. But for all of us

2420
02:05:24,360 --> 02:05:26,160
Speaker 3: out here, you're right, we're gonna we're gonna chew on

2421
02:05:26,200 --> 02:05:29,480
Speaker 3: this for a minute and uh and you know, wait

2422
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:32,960
Speaker 3: until our stomach settles from it. Right, So we'll see.

2423
02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:35,400
Speaker 2: Eight oh three oh five fifty one eight eight eight

2424
02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:37,840
Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty. Don't worry, someone will answer

2425
02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:40,680
Speaker 2: the phone there shortly if you're trying to get in here. Uh,

2426
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:43,440
Speaker 2: we do want to check the tweet sheet, which we

2427
02:05:43,480 --> 02:05:48,040
Speaker 2: didn't check in over an hour now and uh, Sean says,

2428
02:05:48,720 --> 02:05:52,200
Speaker 2: the Bills looked tired and I'm not going to overreact.

2429
02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:54,200
Speaker 2: Good for them to be punched in the face early

2430
02:05:54,240 --> 02:05:57,120
Speaker 2: and get stronger from it. Also get back to using

2431
02:05:57,240 --> 02:06:03,440
Speaker 2: motion more they got away from it. Sloth nos Ball says,

2432
02:06:03,880 --> 02:06:06,920
Speaker 2: great loss, a lot to learn and grow from. I

2433
02:06:07,000 --> 02:06:10,160
Speaker 2: dittribute most of the loss to being out coached, out prepared,

2434
02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 2: and lacking urgency, which makes sense giving it being a

2435
02:06:13,680 --> 02:06:15,760
Speaker 2: house money game for the Bills on the road on

2436
02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:19,160
Speaker 2: a short week, while being a huge must win game

2437
02:06:19,720 --> 02:06:22,000
Speaker 2: for the Ravens who even their record at two and two.

2438
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:31,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that from sloth Noseball. But yeah, it's

2439
02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:34,040
Speaker 3: never as simple as that was a tough game. They

2440
02:06:34,120 --> 02:06:36,960
Speaker 3: they were really energized. We were not. They were you know,

2441
02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:39,680
Speaker 3: they outprepared us, out coaches. It was a road game

2442
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:43,080
Speaker 3: as like as a short week as I Yeah, none

2443
02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:44,520
Speaker 3: of that, none of that holds w You got to

2444
02:06:44,520 --> 02:06:46,800
Speaker 3: show up and play. You got to show up and prepare,

2445
02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:49,880
Speaker 3: and you gotta be ready with your antenna up as

2446
02:06:49,880 --> 02:06:52,680
Speaker 3: a coaching staff and as players to say, hey, wait

2447
02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:54,280
Speaker 3: a minute, wait a minute, we gotta we got to

2448
02:06:54,360 --> 02:06:57,040
Speaker 3: jump up here. We gotta do something different. You gotta

2449
02:06:57,080 --> 02:07:00,640
Speaker 3: be quick to adjust in game, series by play by

2450
02:07:00,680 --> 02:07:05,520
Speaker 3: play sometimes and make it work. And to do that,

2451
02:07:05,640 --> 02:07:07,360
Speaker 3: you can imagine you got to have guys like in

2452
02:07:07,360 --> 02:07:09,560
Speaker 3: that offensive huddle whose eyes are wide open and they're

2453
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:11,320
Speaker 3: looking at Josh going yeah, okay, I'm with you. I

2454
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:14,640
Speaker 3: got it. I'm not saying none of that was going

2455
02:07:14,680 --> 02:07:18,760
Speaker 3: on last night, but the execution was not to a

2456
02:07:18,800 --> 02:07:21,840
Speaker 3: point where anything they called was gonna be top notch.

2457
02:07:21,960 --> 02:07:28,040
Speaker 3: I mean, the trick play notwithstanding, I mean they just

2458
02:07:28,160 --> 02:07:31,640
Speaker 3: did not Their running game was okay, but they were

2459
02:07:31,720 --> 02:07:34,080
Speaker 3: down twenty one to three. He ain't gonna run the ball.

2460
02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:37,720
Speaker 3: Then their passing game, like we said, Josh was getting

2461
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:43,520
Speaker 3: pressured too much, he had to pat the ball too

2462
02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:46,000
Speaker 3: long in the pocket. All of that stuff was going on.

2463
02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:48,880
Speaker 3: So there's a lot in this loss. And it's not

2464
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:51,520
Speaker 3: as simple as just and I get a house money.

2465
02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:53,960
Speaker 3: This is not a crush, a season ender, or a crushing.

2466
02:07:54,040 --> 02:07:56,760
Speaker 3: It's a bad loss. It's not crushing. I don't think

2467
02:07:56,760 --> 02:07:59,920
Speaker 3: they're emotionally spent. I don't think this is gonna be like,

2468
02:08:00,760 --> 02:08:04,080
Speaker 3: you know, like a Jacksonville game where they're going home

2469
02:08:04,120 --> 02:08:07,200
Speaker 3: and it's now they're zero to four after this weekend,

2470
02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:09,240
Speaker 3: where they're looking around, going, now, what do we do?

2471
02:08:09,960 --> 02:08:12,160
Speaker 3: Nothing like that going on here in the Bills locker room.

2472
02:08:12,680 --> 02:08:17,320
Speaker 3: But still you gotta look at you gotta force yourself

2473
02:08:17,360 --> 02:08:21,720
Speaker 3: to watch that film and say, what the heck, what

2474
02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:24,400
Speaker 3: are we doing here? And you got to ask the

2475
02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:27,400
Speaker 3: tough questions and give yourself honest, brutally honest answers.

2476
02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:31,560
Speaker 2: Elsewhere on the tweets sheet, here we've got a comment

2477
02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:33,920
Speaker 2: from Jay Camp who says, I don't understand why Buffalo

2478
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:36,920
Speaker 2: didn't switch to man coverage and add a five man

2479
02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:40,360
Speaker 2: defensive line front. That's where the game was lost. Ravens

2480
02:08:40,360 --> 02:08:43,160
Speaker 2: had the Jews to push the Bills around. Sean loves

2481
02:08:43,160 --> 02:08:45,680
Speaker 2: his four down linemen, but sometimes showing a fifty look

2482
02:08:45,760 --> 02:08:48,879
Speaker 2: might help. We did raise that possibility and be interesting

2483
02:08:48,920 --> 02:08:51,120
Speaker 2: to see if they choose to have a package of

2484
02:08:51,120 --> 02:08:53,520
Speaker 2: plays like that, if they seem to cross paths with

2485
02:08:53,560 --> 02:08:58,040
Speaker 2: the Ravens in the playoffs later this season, Doxy, says Brownie.

2486
02:08:58,080 --> 02:08:59,960
Speaker 2: I think you're right that this offense has to carry

2487
02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:02,800
Speaker 2: load and score quickly and first until our defense is back.

2488
02:09:03,320 --> 02:09:05,840
Speaker 2: Last night, Henry punched us in the mouth and we

2489
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:08,280
Speaker 2: never got over the shock of it. The backup d

2490
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:14,200
Speaker 2: is just that backups. Ken says, game plan and lack

2491
02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:18,879
Speaker 2: of adjustments by coaches. We knew going in undermanned on defense,

2492
02:09:19,080 --> 02:09:22,120
Speaker 2: so no injury excuses. Need to make some moves on

2493
02:09:22,160 --> 02:09:26,560
Speaker 2: the defensive side and not abandon the run. They were

2494
02:09:26,600 --> 02:09:29,120
Speaker 2: effective in the run game. I mean at halftime, James

2495
02:09:29,120 --> 02:09:31,720
Speaker 2: Cook is averaging five yards of carry. They were averaging

2496
02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:34,640
Speaker 2: four point six as a team at halftime, and even

2497
02:09:34,680 --> 02:09:36,720
Speaker 2: at the end of the game, I think they're at

2498
02:09:36,760 --> 02:09:41,600
Speaker 2: four point two per carry. So I understand you're down

2499
02:09:41,640 --> 02:09:43,360
Speaker 2: on the scoreboard and the game got away from you

2500
02:09:43,400 --> 02:09:45,720
Speaker 2: in a hurry, and you feel like you have to pass.

2501
02:09:46,400 --> 02:09:49,680
Speaker 2: But even Eric said on the broadcast last night, going

2502
02:09:49,680 --> 02:09:51,960
Speaker 2: into the second half, you got to at least run

2503
02:09:52,080 --> 02:09:54,720
Speaker 2: enough to keep them honest, especially with all the pressure

2504
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:57,000
Speaker 2: they were generating on Josh early in that game.

2505
02:09:57,080 --> 02:09:59,360
Speaker 3: Well let's not forget either. I mean, these teams are

2506
02:09:59,360 --> 02:10:03,960
Speaker 3: looking at Buffalo and they're going do we really mind

2507
02:10:04,680 --> 02:10:07,240
Speaker 3: giving up four yards of carry if Josh Allen isn't

2508
02:10:07,280 --> 02:10:13,120
Speaker 3: dropping back thirty five times. I think some of that

2509
02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:17,280
Speaker 3: is a defense that's willing to, like not like to

2510
02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:19,880
Speaker 3: do a little bit of like, Okay, let's back out here.

2511
02:10:19,920 --> 02:10:22,280
Speaker 3: Just play some coverage, show some coverage and see if

2512
02:10:22,280 --> 02:10:24,720
Speaker 3: they'll keep handing it off and we can get one

2513
02:10:24,840 --> 02:10:27,280
Speaker 3: stop for a good lot and then put them behind

2514
02:10:27,320 --> 02:10:31,920
Speaker 3: the sticks, make it tougher on Josh. Some of that's

2515
02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:35,000
Speaker 3: going on, and some of that's game plan, but if

2516
02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:38,960
Speaker 3: it is, you've got to exploit it to a larger

2517
02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:41,040
Speaker 3: degree than the Bills did last night. I mean, you've

2518
02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:42,840
Speaker 3: got to make them really pay for that if they're

2519
02:10:42,840 --> 02:10:44,600
Speaker 3: gonna if they're gonna take try and take the ball

2520
02:10:44,640 --> 02:10:46,880
Speaker 3: out of Josh's hands, which I think there's some of that.

2521
02:10:46,960 --> 02:10:50,320
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's their total that's not that that's

2522
02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:53,040
Speaker 3: that's I'm not saying that's their total plan, but there's

2523
02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:54,960
Speaker 3: some of that in there. If they're gonna do it,

2524
02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:56,080
Speaker 3: you got to make them pay for it in a

2525
02:10:56,160 --> 02:10:57,960
Speaker 3: larger to a larger degree than the Bills did.

2526
02:10:58,040 --> 02:11:00,800
Speaker 2: Let's squeeze carl In depew here, what's up Carl.

2527
02:11:02,160 --> 02:11:04,760
Speaker 15: Hi, guys, and I know everybody's a little sad today,

2528
02:11:04,840 --> 02:11:08,120
Speaker 15: but you know, it didn't look like kind of the

2529
02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:10,640
Speaker 15: same team that it showed up last night. And I

2530
02:11:10,720 --> 02:11:14,400
Speaker 15: thought we got our tails kicked in the trenches bad

2531
02:11:14,920 --> 02:11:17,760
Speaker 15: on the offensive side of the ball and defense. The

2532
02:11:17,840 --> 02:11:21,200
Speaker 15: defensive line I don't think put much pressure on him.

2533
02:11:22,360 --> 02:11:24,600
Speaker 15: You know, you didn't hear nothing. And when they got

2534
02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:27,680
Speaker 15: to get to the backside of our defense, well, you know,

2535
02:11:27,760 --> 02:11:30,040
Speaker 15: we got a little bit of trouble. What do you, guys,

2536
02:11:30,080 --> 02:11:34,600
Speaker 15: what do you think, Steve, as far as I thought,

2537
02:11:34,640 --> 02:11:36,520
Speaker 15: they got beat up bad in the trenches.

2538
02:11:37,280 --> 02:11:40,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well yeah, we've yes, we've been talking about

2539
02:11:40,480 --> 02:11:41,440
Speaker 3: that the entire show.

2540
02:11:42,280 --> 02:11:44,200
Speaker 2: And Sean McDermot addressed that at the end of the

2541
02:11:44,200 --> 02:11:45,840
Speaker 2: game too and said, we got beat at the line

2542
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:46,480
Speaker 2: of scrim.

2543
02:11:46,240 --> 02:11:48,360
Speaker 3: And it's and that had and that was, in and

2544
02:11:48,400 --> 02:11:51,760
Speaker 3: of itself, the big difference between the Ravens game and

2545
02:11:51,800 --> 02:11:54,840
Speaker 3: the Jacksonville and the Miami game and the Arizona game.

2546
02:11:54,920 --> 02:11:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the old line and D line. The first

2547
02:11:56,560 --> 02:11:59,240
Speaker 2: three games, they wanted the line of scream and they

2548
02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:00,200
Speaker 2: were handling.

2549
02:11:59,880 --> 02:12:02,240
Speaker 3: They were churning out sacks and turnovers because of the

2550
02:12:02,280 --> 02:12:04,000
Speaker 3: pressure and the dominance they head up front, or at

2551
02:12:04,040 --> 02:12:06,640
Speaker 3: least the great matchup they had upfront. So yeah, that

2552
02:12:06,800 --> 02:12:10,200
Speaker 3: was one of, if not the biggest difference in this

2553
02:12:10,240 --> 02:12:11,520
Speaker 3: game compared to the first three.

2554
02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:14,240
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here. We've got one segment to go,

2555
02:12:14,280 --> 02:12:16,000
Speaker 2: see if we can squeeze into phone call when we

2556
02:12:16,040 --> 02:12:18,560
Speaker 2: return here on a Buffalo Football Monday on One Bill's Live,

2557
02:12:36,160 --> 02:12:38,960
Speaker 2: One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker. One final segment

2558
02:12:38,960 --> 02:12:41,000
Speaker 2: to go, Let squeeze Mark and Stockton in here. What

2559
02:12:41,080 --> 02:12:41,600
Speaker 2: you got Mark?

2560
02:12:43,160 --> 02:12:45,840
Speaker 26: Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. I'm just saying

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Speaker 26: it's not time to push the panic button. I mean,

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Speaker 26: an experience is the worst teacher. You get the test

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Speaker 26: before the lesson, and they learned a lesson yesterday, so

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Speaker 26: they will improve because they're a great team. And h

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Speaker 26: that's all I got to say. It's like, hey, it's

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Speaker 26: better to lose now and fix your problems than can't

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Speaker 26: figure it out later on in the season.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's a good point.

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Speaker 3: Margat here's the thing, and I get it too. Ravens

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Speaker 3: were the number one seed last year. You walk into

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Speaker 3: their house on a Sunday night, it's a primetime game,

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Speaker 3: they're desperate to win, to get back to five hundred

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Speaker 3: on the season. Here or in the first month of

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Speaker 3: the season, big game for them. You're three and zero,

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Speaker 3: flying high. You've been beaten teams, crushing teams, and it's

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Speaker 3: you've got your And there's this little bit of the

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Speaker 3: finger quotes house money, you're this law. It's not it's

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Speaker 3: not a huge loss. I get all of that. I

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Speaker 3: get all of that, And that's kind of the vibe

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Speaker 3: for people who, Yeah, for who's watched it. You know,

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Speaker 3: this is a long season, and you're right, uh, but

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Speaker 3: here's the thing. How many of those are are you

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Speaker 3: gonna be willing to take? There's because there's another one

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Speaker 3: coming up. You got the hot team in the league

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Speaker 3: with a young quarterback. They were in the playoffs last year.

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Speaker 3: Everybody loves them. They were the darlings of the offseason.

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Speaker 3: You got to go into their building now, and then

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Speaker 3: after that you got to go into the Jets building.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can't tolerate not playing. Well.

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Speaker 2: That's it for us today. We'll see you tomorrow at

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Speaker 2: one pm. ESPN's Dan Orlovsky joining us to recap this

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Speaker 2: one and look ahead to that Texans game in week five.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you then