1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Center. Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: with you in today's show. We've got a lot of 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: big news. It all revolves around Russia, Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump, 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: and the big meeting in Alaska Centater. What's even more 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: amazing about this story is how Democrats are obsessed with 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: hating Trump almost as much as they hate Vladimir Putin 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: and hoping that this conversation is a failure. Even Hillary 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Clinton saying well, if you can get a deal done, 9 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: I'll nominate him for Noel Peace Prize, but saying it 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: away that was pretty clear she thinks this is never 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: gonna happen. 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: Well, this was a major meeting that happened in Alaska. 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: It was a one on one meeting between President Trump 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: and Vladimir Putin. The proof will be in the pudding. 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: We will see what results. But my hope and my 16 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: belief is this is going to result in a peace 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: agreement in ending the war in Ukraine, and then that's 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: an outcome that needs to happen. Well, we're going to 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: do on this podcast is we're going to break down 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: what exactly happened in Alaska. What we know what President 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: Trump said, what Vladimir Putin said, and what's likely to 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: happen next. What are the consequences for ending. 23 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: The war in Ukraine. We're going to give you all 24 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: the details on today's pod. 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 2: We're also going to talk about a story that you 26 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: may not have seen, but it is consequential, which is 27 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 2: that I've been calling for the recognition of a new 28 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: nation in Africa, Somaliland, and I'm the chairman of the 29 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 2: Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Africa, and the Chinese Communist 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 2: Party is very very unhappy with me for doing so, 31 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: and so they have been blasting me this week for 32 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: daring to stand up to China and Africa. 33 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: Well, here's a spoiler alert. I'm going to keep standing 34 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: up to them. 35 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 2: But we're gonna explain that issue to you because it's 36 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: important and it's another arena in which we are contesting 37 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: Communist China. 38 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is an important story that no one's 39 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: talking about. That's why we do this show to bring 40 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: you headlines like this. Want to take a moment and 41 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: tell you about an incredible company that makes a different 42 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: with every dollar that you spend with them. 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And that was when, 81 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: like the entire media just erupted with I can't even 82 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: believe that they're touching each other and shaking hands. It 83 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: is true, incredible to watch the meltdown. 84 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: You know, it is astonishing how the corporate media and 85 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 2: the Democrats are rooting for America to fail. 86 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: They want the president to fail. 87 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: They hate President Trump so much that actually seeing him 88 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 2: succeed in ending this war would be intolerable to the 89 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: left that hates him so much. And listen, I don't 90 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: know if he will succeed. This is not easy. This 91 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: was courageous to go and do this meeting. There is 92 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: a risk of failure. But if we know anything about 93 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 2: President Trump is that he is afraid of very little 94 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 2: unplanet Earth, and and he's not afraid of Vladimir Putin. 95 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: And so he went, He invited him to come to Alaska. 96 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 2: He went and met one on one. He looked him 97 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 2: in the eyes, and he made very clear of this 98 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: war needs to come to an end. I want you 99 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 2: to give a listen to what President Trump said about 100 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 2: his meeting with Putin. 101 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 5: We were together almost three hours and it was very 102 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 5: extensive and we agreed her a lot of points. I 103 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 5: mean a lot of points we're agreeing on, but there's 104 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 5: not that much is you know, one or two pretty 105 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 5: significant items, but I think they can be reached. Now 106 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 5: it's really up to Presidents Olynsky to get it done. 107 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 5: And I would also say the European nations they have 108 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 5: to get involved a little bit, but it's up to 109 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 5: Presidents Olynsky. I think we are and if they'd like, 110 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 5: I'll be at that next meeting. They're going to set 111 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 5: up a meeting now between Presidents Olynsky and President Putin 112 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 5: and myself. I guess you know, I didn't even I 113 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 5: didn't ask about it. Not that I want to be there, 114 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 5: but I want to make sure it gets done, and 115 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 5: we have a pretty good chance of getting it done. 116 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 1: If he described as a pretty good chance of getting 117 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: it done. Part of this is the economics, and that's 118 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: something centered that a lot of people have not been 119 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:49,119 Speaker 1: talking about. This war is costing Russia a lot of money, 120 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: and they are a country that is very poor at 121 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: this point, they're teetering somewhat safe economically, and so there 122 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: is a real chance that Vladimir who needs to get 123 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: out of this from a financial standpoint. That's part of 124 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: what I think the President clearly was talking to him 125 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: about as well. 126 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: I think that's right, and I believe the Ukraine War 127 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 2: will end, and it will end this year. That was 128 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: clearly something President Trump campaigned on. He was explicit to 129 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: the American people that he intended to end this war. 130 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 2: And listen, President Zelensky has been reluctant to reach a 131 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: piece deal because he wants to recover every square inch 132 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 2: of Ukraine. 133 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: Now now I understand why he does. 134 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: You and I, if we were president of Ukraine, we 135 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: probably want the same thing. But President Trump has been 136 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: cleared the United States is out of the business of 137 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: funding the war. That we have sent billions and billions 138 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 2: of dollars to Ukraine and the cash spigot has stopped, 139 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 2: and I think that is a powerful incentive to President 140 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: Zelensky to reach an agreement. You were right that the 141 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: war has been incredibly costly on Russia. They have poured 142 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 2: in enormous money and material and manpower and soldiers who've 143 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 2: been lost. 144 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: And what I've. 145 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: Verged, the president is number one in the war, but 146 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: number two end it in a way that is a 147 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: clear and discernible loss for Putin. Putin is not our friend. 148 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: Putin is our enemy. And we do not want our 149 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: enemy getting stronger. We want our enemies getting weaker. And 150 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: so my hope is the resolution, there's going to be 151 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: some kind of negotiated settlement. 152 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 3: I think it will be reached later this year. 153 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: The follow up on Monday today, President Zelenski is scheduled 154 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: to be in Washington and meet with President Trump. 155 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: That that'll be the next step. 156 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 2: And then the objective is to get Zelenski and Putin 157 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: together with President Trump and see if we can make 158 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: real progress to a resolution. That is not going to 159 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: be easy because Zelenski has no wanted to give anything up, 160 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: and Putin generally doesn't want to give anything up either, 161 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 2: And so you've got two people that are pretty dug 162 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: in in their positions. But I think President Trump is 163 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: trying to move heaven and earth to stop the war, 164 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: to stop the shooting and stop the bloodshed. 165 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: You talk about the next steps, and let's just go 166 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: to that meeting with Zelensky. 167 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 4: I think it's pretty clear. 168 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: And a lot of people criticize in the media also 169 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: Democrats that Zelensky quote wasn't invited to this meeting, and 170 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: they wanted to hit the president on that. Look, Donald 171 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: Trump clearly need to get in the room with Vladimir Putin, 172 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: talk to Putin and probably be able to say some 173 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: things of Vladimir Putin without Zelensky in the room. Yeah, 174 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: there was no indication by the way that Vladimir Putin 175 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: wanted to meet with Zolensky, And if you look historically 176 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: at these deals, usually the person the country that brokers 177 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: the deal has a meeting with one side, first, has 178 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: a meeting with the other side, then they have that 179 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: follow up meeting that the President talked about that has 180 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: been standing entered practice for decades and decades and decades, 181 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 1: maybe even centuries around the world. And yet people wanted 182 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: to criticize the President for using this strategy, which has 183 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: been proven to work. Well, I think the President was 184 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: smart here. You go to this meeting with Zolensky, I'm 185 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: assuming he's going to treat it very much the same 186 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: way he treated this meeting with Vladimir Putin, except there 187 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: is a difference. One's going to be at the White 188 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: House and one's in Alaska. So I think that also 189 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: plays out well in the President's favor, with Zelenski saying, hey, 190 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm showing your respect. I want to get this deal done. 191 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: You need to stop the killing for your people that's 192 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: coming in. I think with a smart idea and strategy, 193 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 1: your reaction. 194 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,599 Speaker 2: Well, look, President Trump, before the meeting in Alaska, he 195 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: was explicit. He said he wanted to see if Putin 196 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: is willing to make a deal to reach a resolution. 197 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: And he was also explicit and he said if if 198 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: Putin is not, Trump was perfectly prepared to get up 199 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 2: and leave. And and remember that that's what President Reagan 200 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: did when he met with Mickel Gorbachev in Raykevic, and Gorbachev. 201 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: Was not willing to reach a deal. 202 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: In particular, Gorbachev wanted Reagan to give up SDI, the 203 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 2: Strategic Defense Initiative, which was Star Wars, it was missile defense, 204 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: and Reagan was not willing to give it up. And 205 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: Reagan got up from the table and left and walked out. 206 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you his leaving that negotiation was a 207 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: critical element of winning the Cold War because the Soviet 208 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: Union they did not have the economy to support the 209 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: military build up. They needed to keep up with SDI 210 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: to keep up with our military, and we ultimately won 211 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: the Cold War without firing a shot. I think President 212 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: Trump did a good job of setting expectations. And I 213 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 2: wasn't in the room with with Trump and and Putin, 214 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: but I assume he looked at him flat out and said, listen, 215 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 2: are you willing to reach a deal or not? And 216 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: the answer was satisfactory enough that Trump stayed and continued 217 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 2: the meeting. I think that's a step forward. It's a 218 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: positive step forward. And you know the left is contemptuous. 219 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 2: But I want you to listen to this exchange with 220 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: Brett Baar. 221 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 3: We asked her, asked Trump about Hillary Clinton, give a listen. 222 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 6: In fact, did you see that Hillary Clinton yesterday said 223 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 6: that if you got this deal done and not capitulate 224 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 6: to Putin, that she would nominate you for the Nobel 225 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 6: Peace Price. 226 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: If President Trump were the architect of that, I'd nominate 227 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: him for a Nobel Peace Prize. 228 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: Well, that was very nice. 229 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: I may have to start liking her again. 230 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: That one just made me laugh like when I watched it, 231 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: because I think he was even like really like Hillary 232 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: Clinton noticed she had a caveat in there. If it's 233 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: without capitulating, right, if there's always a caveat with Dems. 234 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: Well, and that's their wiggle language, she said, and not 235 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: capitulate to Putin. So whatever the deal is, if Putin 236 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 2: gets anything at all, Hillary will say nope, nope, that 237 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 2: was capitulating. 238 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 3: So I didn't mean it. I'm not nominating him. 239 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: But that may be quote that that that she and 240 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: the other Democrats come back to regret because I think 241 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: there's going to be a deal. 242 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: Uh. 243 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: And if there is a deal, uh, you can be 244 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 2: assured that quote is going to be played multiple times 245 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 2: and and and and if if the President negotiates the deal, 246 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 2: she'll try to walk away from it. One hundred percent. 247 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: She tries to walk away from it. But but but 248 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: it shows you know, she's rooting for failure, and and 249 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: and the other Democrats are are rooting for failure. But 250 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 2: in a significant part of the reason, understand, this war 251 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 2: in Ukraine should never have happened. It was unnecessary. This 252 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 2: war in Ukraine was caused by two things. It was 253 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 2: caused by number one, Joe Biden's disastrous withdraw in Afghanistan. 254 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 2: The incompetence, the debacle that unfolded every enemy of America 255 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: took a measure of President Biden and determined that the 256 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: commander in chief was weak and ineffective. That was a 257 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: major reason Putin invaded Ukraine. And it was caused second 258 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: by Joe Biden waiving sanctions on Nordstream two. Nordstream two 259 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: is the undersea pipeline that Putin built from Russia to Germany, 260 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: and the reason he built that pipeline to carry natural 261 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: gas was to circumvent Ukraine, because right now Russia's natural 262 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: gas goes through Ukraine on pipelines, and the purpose of 263 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 2: Nordstream two was so that he didn't need to go 264 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: through Ukraine and he could invade Ukraine. In the first term, 265 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: I authored sanctions legislation, crushing sanctioned legislation to shut down 266 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 2: Nordstream two. It passed the Senate with bipartisan support, It 267 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: passed the House with bipartisan support. President Trump signed my 268 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: sanctions legislation into law, and Ben Putin stopped construction of 269 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: Nordstream two literally the day President Trump signed my sanctioned 270 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: legislation into law. That legislation stopped the invasion, prevented the invasion, 271 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: and had the same actions remained in place, we would 272 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: not have a war in Ukraine. But Joe Biden came 273 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: in and waived the sanctions. He gave a multi billion 274 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: dollar gift to Putin finished Northstream two, and almost immediately 275 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 2: thereafter invaded. And by the way, it's not just me 276 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: saying this, give a listen to to Putin saying the 277 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: same point, which is that the war in Ukraine would 278 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 2: never have happened if Trump had been president in twenty 279 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: twenty one, give a listen. 280 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 7: I'd like to remind you that in twenty twenty two, 281 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 7: during the last contact with the previous administration, I tried 282 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 7: to convince my previous American colleague we should not the 283 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 7: situation should not be brought to the point of no 284 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 7: return when it would come to hostilities. And I said 285 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 7: it quite directly back then. That is a big mistake 286 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 7: President Trump today. When President Trump saying that if he 287 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 7: was the president back then, there will be no war, 288 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 7: I'm quite sure that it would indeed be so, and 289 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 7: I can't confirm that. I think that overall, me and 290 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 7: President Trump have built very good, business like and trustworthy 291 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 7: contact and have every reason to believe that moving down 292 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 7: this path, we can come and suited better to the 293 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 7: end of the conflict in Ukraine. 294 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 4: I mean he said it there. 295 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: I also think you said it because he's probably messing 296 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: with our media a little bit, which I love. It's like, 297 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: you guys are idiots, and you're wrong, and if you 298 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: knew what was actually going on, you tell the truth. 299 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: It's pretty bad when even Putin knows how to just 300 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: call out the media. 301 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, look and and and. 302 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: The media actually behaves like Prova, behaves like the Soviet media, 303 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: except they they pitched the hard left pullet Burrow line, 304 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: and and so as a result, they blame everything on 305 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: President Trump. But I'm understand Joe Biden. The Democrats caused wars. 306 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: They caused the war in Ukraine, and I believe Biden's 307 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: weakness caused the war in Gaza caused October seventh. And 308 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: the world is safer. We have fewer wars when we 309 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: have a strong commander in chief and President Trump is working, 310 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: I think, very hard to end this war. Now, one 311 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: big question is is Zelenski willing to make a deal. 312 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: And President Trump had some very straightforward advice to President Zelensky. 313 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 3: Give a listen, what's your advice is to make a deal. 314 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 3: Make the deal. 315 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 5: Got to make a deal. 316 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 317 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 5: Look, Russia is a very big power, and they're not 318 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 5: They're great soldiers that they have, great but you know 319 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 5: they also had the best equipment. You know, they had 320 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 5: our equipment, and I gave them javelins. If you remember 321 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 5: my first term, in fact, it was a statement I 322 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 5: gave javelins. You remember the statement I gave javelins and 323 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 5: Obama gave because it was Obama at that time. Obama 324 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 5: gave them sheets, and that's true. I gave javelins, and 325 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 5: a lot of tanks were knocked out because of the 326 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 5: javelins and javelins incredible weapon. 327 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 3: That said tank. 328 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 5: You know, you look at this big, powerful tank, it 329 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 5: ends up being a ball of metal lying on the 330 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 5: ground and burn it. 331 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 3: I'd never say anything like it. 332 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 5: We have the greatest military equipment in the world, but 333 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 5: they did have courage in fighting, and you know, they're 334 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 5: fighting a big war machine. And we I think are 335 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 5: close to a deal, but I won't. I don't like 336 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 5: saying it. I always say, if I'm really close, I 337 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 5: say fifty to. 338 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 4: Fifty, fifty to fifty, right. I love how he says that. 339 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, Look, and this was President Trump also made 340 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: clear that that Biden is the one who screwed this up, 341 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 2: and he's coming in now and he's trying to fix 342 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: the mess that Joe Biden, the Democrats weakness caused. 343 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 3: Here's how the President put it. 344 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, before we play that, I want to tell you 345 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 1: real quick about Kroc a coffee. 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You get 387 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 6: up and walk away. 388 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 5: I'm not doing it based on history, based on anything else. 389 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 4: I'm doing it based on a deal. If we make 390 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 4: a deal, great. 391 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 5: If I see that there's no hope of making a deal, 392 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 5: I'm out of there. 393 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 4: It's over. 394 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 3: I'm out of there. 395 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 4: This isn't my war, this is Biden's war. 396 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 5: This is Biden screwed this up, just like he did 397 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 5: with Afghanistan, with that horrible retreat and the way he 398 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 5: did it. 399 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 4: I'll never forget it. He'll never forget it. 400 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, and neither will the soldiers and sailors and airmen 401 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: and marines who fought in Afghanistan, who bled, who lost 402 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: brothers and sisters there, Every veteran of that war. Biden's 403 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: disastrous with retreat is in del marked under their conscious. 404 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: Final question for you on this, if you were meeting 405 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: with Zolensky about getting this deal done, what would you 406 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: say to him? 407 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 4: What would your advice be? 408 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: And and and how would you see this thing ending 409 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: if you could do it your way? 410 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: Well, look, my advice would be the same as as 411 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: what President Trump's was, which is make a deal. It's 412 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: got to be a negotiated settlement. So Lincy's not going 413 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: to get everything he wants UH, but it is important 414 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: that that Ukraine have an outcome where their security is 415 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: is protected. And and and that's one thing that that 416 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: that's one thing that is striking. Putin acknowledged that that 417 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: was a real concession that Putin said there needs to 418 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: be an outcome where Ukraine's security is protected. I also 419 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,239 Speaker 2: think it is important that that that the resolution of 420 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 2: this UH continues to leave nord Stream to shut down. 421 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 2: When I'm meeting with with our European allies, and I 422 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: do so frequently, a question I posed to them over 423 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 2: and over again, as I say, listen, when the war 424 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: in Ukraine ends, who are you going to buy your 425 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: energy from? Are you going to buy your energy from 426 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: Russia or are you going to buy it from the 427 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: United States? Because I would like to see a resolution 428 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 2: to this war that is America first, that puts America first. 429 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: I'd like to see Europe buying their energy from US 430 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 2: and not enriching Putin. And so that's an outcome that 431 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: I think is very much in America's view. But I 432 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 2: want you to listen to Putin. I want you to 433 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: listen to Putin acknowledging the importance of an outcome that 434 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: protects the security of Ukraine. Give a listen, and I agree. 435 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 7: With President Trump as he has said today. Naturally, the 436 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 7: security of Ukraine should be insured as well. Naturally we're 437 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 7: prepared to welcome that. I like to hope that the 438 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 7: agreement that we've reached together will help us bring close 439 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 7: to that goal and will pay the path towards peace 440 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 7: from Ukraine. We expect that Kiev and European capitals perceive 441 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 7: that constructively and that they won't throw a wrench in 442 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 7: the words. 443 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: Two things there. One, he says it clearly, the security 444 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: of Ukraine should be ensure. Now I think this goes 445 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: back to trust but verify, right, But at least he's 446 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: saying that. 447 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we should not take Putin at his word for that. 448 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: But it's better that he says it then than he doesn't. 449 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: And then you hear him at the end. 450 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: It does seem to be that he's is talking in 451 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: a way you would talk if you're winding things down. 452 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: I think you have to read into that a little 453 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: bit and say, okay, this is not a bad thing either. 454 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 455 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: Look, if he was hell bent on continuing the war, 456 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: and trying to conquer all of Ukraine. He wouldn't say 457 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: we need to ensure that the security of Ukraine is 458 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 2: protected now. He also said and that the European shouldn't 459 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: throw a wrench into it. And one of the real 460 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 2: questions is is there have been some in Europe, and 461 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: there have been a number of Democrats who've advocated that 462 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: Ukraine be a member of NATO. I think that would 463 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: be a real mistake. I've been vocal opposing that. President 464 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 2: Trump has been explicit he opposes that. And the reason 465 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: is NATO. Under Article five of NATO, when a country 466 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: becomes a member of NATO, the other members take an 467 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: obligation to defend it in the case of war. And 468 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 2: I have zero interest in putting American troops in harm's 469 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 2: way defending Ukraine. And so I think inviting Ukraine to 470 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 2: NATO would be a bad mistake. President Trump has made 471 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: that clear, and I think that's what Putin was saying 472 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: there as well, is that that would do real damage 473 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: to the prospects of peace. And so I'm glad that 474 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: President Trump has taken that off the table. 475 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 4: I want to move to. 476 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: This other story, and it's one realistically that probably ninety 477 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: nine percent of this audience doesn't even know about this 478 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: because no one's covering it. It doesn't mean that it's 479 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: not an extreme important story. It is you calling out China. 480 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: It's an epic fight over creating a new country in Africa. 481 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: This reminds me of that story we were talking about 482 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 1: not that long ago, about China creating an island in 483 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: the middle of the ocean based of nowhere that we 484 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: helped give them air superiority. If there was a massive 485 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: world event that took place, another World war, it would 486 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: give them the ability to reach places they currently cannot reach. 487 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: And now we're hearing that they're looking at creating a 488 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: new country in Africa. You're trying to bring that to 489 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: light and also stop it. Well, that's exactly right. 490 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: So I am the chairman of the Africa Subcommittee of 491 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 2: the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and so I've been sharing 492 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: a number of hearings, in particular focusing on the growing 493 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: influence of communist China and Africa. Africa has become a 494 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: major battleground where China is trying to gain influence, trying 495 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 2: to gain power and do so at the expense of America. 496 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: And so what this last week, I wrote a letter 497 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: to President Trump urging the President to recognize a new 498 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 2: country in Africa. I'm going to read you the letter. 499 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: Dear President Trump, I write to urge your administration to 500 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 2: formally recognize the Republic of Somaliland as an independent state 501 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 2: with sovereignty within its nineteen sixty borders. Somaliland first gained 502 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 2: independence and international recognition in nineteen sixty before voluntarily uniting 503 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: with Somalia later that year. Since moving to reclaim its 504 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: independence in nineteen ninety one, it has functioned as a stable, 505 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: self governing, democratic nation. It has held several peaceful elections 506 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: since two thousand and three, marked by strong voter turnout 507 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: and peaceful transitions of power. Somaliland has emerged as a 508 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: critical security and diplomatic partner for the United States, helping 509 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,200 Speaker 2: America advance our national security interest in the whole born 510 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 2: of Africa and beyond. It is strategically located on the 511 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 2: Gulf of Aden, putting it near one of the world's 512 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: busiest maritime corridors. It possesses capable armed forces and contributes 513 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 2: to regional counter terrorism and piracy operations. It has enabled 514 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: the opening of a Taiwanese Representative Office in the capital 515 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 2: of Hargisa sought to strengthen ties with Israel and voice 516 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: support for the Abraham Accords. It has proposed hosting a 517 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: US military presence near the Red Sea along the Gulf 518 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: of Aden, and is open to critical minerals agreements that 519 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 2: would support our supply chain resilience. The US Somaliland partnership 520 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 2: is robust and it is deepening. Somaliland faces mounting pressure 521 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: from adversaries, so small part to its role as a 522 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: partner for the United States and our allies. The Chinese 523 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 2: Communist Party is using economic and diplomatic coercion to punish 524 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: Somaliland for its support for Taiwan, as well as to 525 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: undermine that support. The Government of Somalia has played an 526 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: unfortunate role in these efforts. In April twenty twenty five, 527 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: the CCP arranged for Somalia to bar Taiwanese passport holders 528 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 2: from transiting into Somaliland, and Chinese support to Somalia is 529 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: benefiting anti Somaliland groups working to erode its sovereignty. Despite 530 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: these threats, Somaliland remains committed to forging closer ties with 531 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: the US and is actively engaged in enhancing military cooperation, 532 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 2: counter terrorism efforts, and economy and trade partnerships. To do 533 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: so to the greatest effect and the greatest benefit to 534 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: American national security interest, it requires the status of a state. 535 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: I urge you to grant it that recognition. This is 536 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 2: obviously significant. What are the chances that this could move 537 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 2: forward this way? 538 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 3: Look, I'm optimistic. 539 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: I think there's a real chance the President will recognize Somaliland. 540 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: As I said, they've been an ally to US. UH, 541 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,239 Speaker 2: they've been an ally. This is a Muslim country and 542 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: in a very dangerous part of Africa. And they've shown 543 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: real courage. They've shown real courage standing with the United States. 544 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: They've shown real courage standing up to China. They've they've 545 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 2: shown real courage siding with Taiwan, which infuriates communist China. 546 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 3: UH. 547 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: They they've shown real courage embracing Israel and the Abraham Accords. 548 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 2: I think Somaliland would would eagerly join the Abraham Accords, 549 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: and and and so it is in America's national security interest. 550 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: I believe to recognize Somaliland, and and and and probably 551 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: the best comp information of that is this week China 552 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: put out a public release blasting me absolutely furious that 553 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: I made this public call to recognize Somaliland. And here's 554 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: what China put out as their statement. They said, quote 555 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: a US senator in a letter boasting of so called 556 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 2: US recognition of Somaliland region launched baseless attacks against China 557 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: and China Somalia relations. The Chinese Embassy in Somalia firmly 558 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: opposes this misconduct. This coursive letter constitutes serious interference in 559 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: the internal affairs of Somalia and further exposes the hegemonic 560 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: and bullying attitude of certain US politicians to the Somali people. 561 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: Respect for sovereignty and territorial integrity and non interference in 562 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: each other's internal affairs are enshrined in the UN chart 563 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: as basic norms governing international relations for safeguarding world peace 564 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 2: and stability. China never interferes in other countries' internal affairs 565 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 2: and absolutely does not accept meddling in its own internal 566 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: affairs by any countries. Taiwan is an inalienable part of 567 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: China's territory. This is history and this is reality. China 568 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: firmly opposes taiwan independent separatism and external interference, and possesses 569 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: the legitimate right to take measures to defend national sovereignty 570 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: and territorial integrity. The fact that China is freaking out, 571 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 2: the fact that they are this pissed off from my perspective, 572 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 2: confirms that that I was exactly right and as yet 573 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: another argument why President Trump should should recognize Somaliland as 574 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: an ally to America and as a country in Africa 575 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: willing to stand up to communist China. 576 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 577 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 4: Great point. 578 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: We're going to keep you updated on this story because 579 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: it's an important one and we will have movement on it, 580 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: I have no doubt. 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