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Speaker 1: He is influential, He is unfiltered. He is very relevant.

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Speaker 1: They never were like, can't do this, and they just

428
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: sat and let us do our thing, and that's what

429
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: needed to be done. So to me, once I was

430
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 1: convinced they're gonna let us be us, and this is

431
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: gonna take bar stool from me making a good living

432
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: to you know, potentially a much bigger and help all

433
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: of the guys that have been with me. That offered

434
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: them a much better opportunity at becoming millionaires and whatnot.

435
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: I was comfortable with the deal. How many people work

436
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: with you, So when we did that deal, it was

437
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: like thirteen, I think we have that's really big. Okay.

438
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: And so you have a back end like if they

439
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: cash out again, you can ring the bell again for

440
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: so we we did sell again. So we've sold twice.

441
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,959
Speaker 1: So so we we sold fifth I sold the company

442
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 1: to Turning Group. Last year, we sold thirty six percent

443
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,959
Speaker 1: of it to a company called Penn National Gaming Casino Company,

444
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 1: and they have the option at the end of three

445
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: years to basically become the sole owner. Got it, okay,

446
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: So and that also was an amazing decision. Yeah, that

447
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 1: has made me very wealthy, more wealthy than I ever dreamed.

448
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've gone through this at some level, meaning

449
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: maybe not the exact scenario. But I worked very hard

450
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: for a long time to make like one dollar and

451
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: then we did this deal with Penn in their publicly

452
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: trade company half of it was equity, half of it

453
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: was cash. But the stock has gone from like twenty

454
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 1: in like a year. So that's I get that too.

455
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: I have a lot of parallels, the most parallel career

456
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,719
Speaker 1: that I've ever have anyone I've ever spoken to and

457
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: on here. So I'm fascinated by this, So go ahead.

458
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 1: So well, we did the deal. The stock was at

459
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 1: twenty six dollars, twenty cents. We do the deal. Wall

460
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 1: Street likes it goes up to forty COVID hits. They

461
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: have like casinos all over the country they're all shut down.

462
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: Stock goes to four. So went from four to four.

463
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: It's like, are we going out of business here or what?

464
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 1: Then things start turning around simultaneously. I become very well

465
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: known on Wall Street and everything just came together and

466
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: it's like, this is the pen guy, this is the

467
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: bars little guy, this is the guy making headlines all

468
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: over the place, and people bought into it and it

469
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: just has skyrocketed. It's a perfect storm. It really was.

470
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: So is that like you're like a more modern, edgy

471
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: common man Jim Kramer? Yeah, I think that's a good way.

472
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: I love Jim, love him. So basically I did something

473
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: to Wall Street and Finance that had it really been

474
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: done yet. It was Jim Kramer exactly. He kind of

475
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: revolutionized with mad money and screaming pressing horns. But I

476
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 1: did something I as memes and Internet. I was making

477
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: hype videos and I was like, it looked like you

478
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: were going to a football game when I'm talking about

479
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: stocks and I'm calling out talking heads and I'm doing

480
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: what people do on the Internet, except I brought it

481
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: to finance. So I turned on the cameras and I'm like,

482
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna day trade and I was putting up like

483
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: millions of dollars and people are watching in real time

484
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: as I was getting killed or winning, and just people

485
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: hadn't seen that before with the gimmicks and all the

486
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: bells and whistles that I've been doing at Barcetool forever,

487
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: but it had never been put to Finance before. And

488
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: Finance on these like stuffy people, these talking heads. It

489
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: just they didn't even know how to react to it,

490
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: and it and it caught fire. Basically, that's amazing. So

491
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: you're very creative, I mean, and you're also very good

492
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: at tech, and I'm not. I hate managing people in

493
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: the same way. I'm not good at all of that.

494
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: I hate social media and Instagram and knowing what's what

495
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: and how to do this and filters and give and

496
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 1: like you're amazing at all that. Suff I envy that.

497
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm very creative, but that stuff is very hard for me. Yeah,

498
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm not great at it. But we are the first

499
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: like internet digital company just of when we launched, so

500
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: we everyone we hire here grew up doing this stuff.

501
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: So I may not have to make it. But I

502
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: got a team of people who this is all they've

503
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: done their whole life. You know, what you want to

504
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: have for dinner, someone else can cook it, Like this

505
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: is what we're having. I gotta work on that. So

506
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: because when you did the first deal, you didn't care

507
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: about the money. You just wanted to grow the business

508
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: and grow the brand, which I also get. You make

509
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: different decisions in different parts of your career for different reasons.

510
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: It's not always about the money. Sometimes you'll take no

511
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: money because it's about the street credit, or it's about

512
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: uh just the awareness, or to build the overall brand,

513
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: or it's a flagship store. So now that I hear

514
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: about the second deal, what is the end zone? Like,

515
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: have you taken it into the end zone where and

516
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: I know you don't plan all these things, but what

517
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: what would the end zone look like for you if

518
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: somebody asked me what the end zone or the end

519
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: goal was when I did, when I started to come

520
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: pretty to turn in too. Now has changed so much.

521
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: The goalposts keep moving. But what I'm about to say,

522
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: as insane as it sounds, is far more realistic than

523
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: if I started day one saying I'm here. So I

524
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: guess I have bigger goals, Like I think we can

525
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: be a billion dollar company. You know, we're at the

526
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: forefront of a legalized vice gambling. There's marijuana and there's

527
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: gambling after that. I don't know what there else is

528
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: there to legalize, and we're in the perfect position for it.

529
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: So if we can execute on our vision, you know,

530
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 1: I think I could be in a position where it's like, hey,

531
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: I want to buy sports team. Is how big I

532
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: think the dream can be? First end zone? Yes, So

533
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: what is your target audience right now? Who are you

534
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: really reaching? How how much are women are of this audience?

535
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 1: And That's what I'm really curious about. Yeah, they've become

536
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: in an increasing part of our audience. You know call

537
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: her daddy. That podcast is gigantic. It's young, but that's

538
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: ours with Chicks in the Office, which is a popular

539
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: podcast a lot more women. Eric our CEO has her

540
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: own audience that she's a powerful executive. So it's certainly growing.

541
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: And if you have a good sense of humor, I

542
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: think you like us. We offer a little bit different

543
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: for everybody. Uh, And it was a huge It's definitely

544
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: something we've got more into. Also, people don't always know this,

545
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: but have you ever heard of like Jenna Marble's But

546
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean anything and I'm gonna rock. So she

547
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 1: was like one of the original YouTube stars literally, like

548
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: she has like a wax statue of Madame Tousseau, really

549
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: like one of the original And I hired her out

550
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: of the Tanning Salon way back in Boston and we

551
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: had a female site stool a lot back in the

552
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: early days. And then she got so big she moved

553
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: to La became a star. So we have some of that.

554
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: I mean, it clearly is still male, but we have

555
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: a much bigger female audience probably, and people give us

556
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: credit for well yeah, and also sporting events they always

557
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: say like women are huge part of the audience with

558
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and things like that. I'm just I

559
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: was just curious because we're always trying to broaden our audience.

560
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: Me two men, you, two women, and I've got all

561
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: the moms and all these tiktoker's reach out to me,

562
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: mostly the guys, but because their mothers are fans, so

563
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: their moms are saying, talk to her and do what

564
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: she's doing. So you can. You know, you find your

565
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: your talent and your guests. I know, I do a

566
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: podcast with them. I was a successful to my late thirties.

567
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: I didn't have any money. It was broke. So they're

568
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: eighteen years old. I mean that's a whole other world.

569
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: So are you still the common man? Like? Are you

570
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 1: still the way you used to be? How have you changed?

571
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: Do you love the nicest sweet do you do you

572
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: have you learned to really spend? And this isn't a trap,

573
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: this is like literally, have you learned to spend and

574
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: enjoy money? Or do you still have that sort of

575
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: is it going to be taken away from me? Mentality?

576
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: What is your relations and ship to money? Do you

577
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: have noise about it? What is it? I like having it?

578
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: I think if I lost it, it wouldn't affect me

579
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: that much. I'm not money conscious, I never have been.

580
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: I'll spend what I have, So the more I have,

581
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: the more I spend. Ironically, which everyone always says, the

582
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: more well known I am, the less I have to

583
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: spend it on things like going out. And you know,

584
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: I go to Miami now a decent amount. I used

585
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: to go there kind of before. I have to scrounge

586
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: up every penny with my buddy is to be able

587
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: to like sit at a table. Now I get those

588
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: tables for free, which is crazy because I can afford them.

589
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm definitely living a far more extravagant life.

590
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: The only thing that and then I think this gonna

591
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: sounds so bougie. I love flying private. That's the only

592
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: thing I'd miss. I get it, no, because but that's

593
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 1: about time. That's you valuing your time and going through security.

594
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. But that's time. It's like time suck,

595
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that your time is super valuable. Are

596
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: you do you want to have a meaningful relationship? Do

597
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: you want to have a family? Do you did a

598
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 1: priority for you? How do you envision balancing that? How

599
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: do you do that dance. Yeah, I don't know if

600
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: i'd say it's a priority. I'm certainly like I kind

601
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: of look at my life day by day and if

602
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: I met somebody and it's like, Okay, I want to

603
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: hang out with this person the next day, the next week,

604
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: the next month, Okay, maybe I found something here. Is

605
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: there a part of me at times like oh I'm

606
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: forty three and and be like this old single man

607
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: that's not the greatest occasionally, but I don't let it

608
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: control me. There's nothing I can do. I'm never gonna

609
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: be the person who wakes up be like I need

610
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: to find like a partner or anything like that. Well,

611
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: do you because you have a program I call it.

612
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: I call it a program, Like I have a program.

613
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: I have a daughter, I live here, I go there.

614
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: My career is this, I do H s in or whatever.

615
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: So you have obviously a serious program. Could you be

616
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: with a woman who had their own programmer? Really has

617
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: to be someone who's down with your program because it's

618
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: so intensive and there's nothing wrong with either one. I'm

619
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: just saying, what what what's your general thing? I really

620
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: don't know, Like I don't I have no idea. Maybe

621
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: I could meet somebody and I like that they're doing

622
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: their own thing, or maybe i'd want them to be

623
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: more part I don't know this sounds cliche, is but

624
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: if I didn't meet somebody, I'd like just to know

625
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: and whatever that is that makes me be like, that's

626
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: the person the program. Whether it's that or as you're

627
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: calling it, I don't know. I really don't know. But

628
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: you would never online date? What do you mean online date?

629
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: Like I'm one of the services, Yes, a dating app,

630
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: because I met my boyfriend who's spectacular and no one

631
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: would ever believe I would meet him, and people don't

632
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: believe he would he met me there, Oh you met

633
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: him on that, Yeah, but it was like he's like

634
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: Prince Charming. So I'm just saying it's not that it's

635
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: crazy that you could meet real people. It's shocking who

636
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: you can meet online if you ever want to meet someone,

637
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: if you do wake up one day because you can't

638
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: be casual that you have to be like I might

639
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: be interested in meeting someone because it's like you're going

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Speaker 1: into a store to look for what you do like

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Speaker 1: and look at difference though between like Instagram, like I

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Speaker 1: mean a million people slide into my d ms wanting

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Speaker 1: to meet. I'll give you a great idea because you

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Speaker 1: know that they are there because they want to seriously

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Speaker 1: meet someone. And most of them on certain apps do

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Speaker 1: want to seriously meet someone. They're not there's some that

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Speaker 1: just want to check and get laid, get a free meal.

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Speaker 1: You can weed that all out. There are some at

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Speaker 1: a certain level that are smart, that are educated, that

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Speaker 1: really want to meet someone. So you've checked that box,

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Speaker 1: and then you can find out what they do, how

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Speaker 1: they live, where they travel. Then you can go over

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Speaker 1: to their social little for that. But you really do

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Speaker 1: kind of get an understanding and you can do a

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Speaker 1: zoom date. You don't have to leave your house. You

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Speaker 1: get to see what their house looks like. You get

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Speaker 1: to kind of have a conversation. You can put some

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Speaker 1: makeup on if you want, and have a drink, and

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Speaker 1: you put on a cute shirt. You can wear no

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Speaker 1: pants as long as they don't. Maybe they'll want that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, and you haven't expended any time or energy,

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Speaker 1: and you've been on a first date, and then you

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Speaker 1: know if you want to see them again in person.

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Speaker 1: It's really good. I promise you. It's efficient. You're efficient.

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Speaker 1: You know, the funny time to like and meeting in

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Speaker 1: a bar. Apparently girls now don't like to meet guys

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Speaker 1: and bars COVID notwithstanding, because what happens is if there

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Speaker 1: are two women sitting at a bar, they're doing it

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Speaker 1: for a reason. They're not sitting there for guys to

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Speaker 1: walk up to them. And guys won't even walk up

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Speaker 1: to them because they know that these girls would be

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Speaker 1: on on my dates if they wanted to tonight. And

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Speaker 1: they like to vet people. So it's a really good

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Speaker 1: vetting program. That's what I think. I gotta be honesome.

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Speaker 1: I don't see that scenario happening for me anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let me help write your dating profile

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Speaker 1: if you do. So, what do you like to do

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Speaker 1: in your spare time? What is your personal life like?

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Speaker 1: Not business? Just what do you enjoy I like horse racing.

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Speaker 1: I like gambling, which is now my livelihood. So that's good. Um.

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Speaker 1: And then I go out. I'm a single guy, so

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Speaker 1: I go out. Do you like to dance? You'd like

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Speaker 1: to go to the clubs? Do you dance? I would

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Speaker 1: say dance? No, I don't know. I'm more of like

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Speaker 1: a sit on the back of a table. And just

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Speaker 1: kind of like Bob, like a chair dancer. Like it

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter what type of music is playing. It could

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Speaker 1: be like eighties pointed sister, or like rap or like techno.

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Speaker 1: I'm dancing the same way, which is just like this. Okay.

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Speaker 1: As a matter, and then I want to know, this

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Speaker 1: is an important question. What's your all star five athletes?

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Speaker 1: The all star team from any different sport? My personal

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady clearly that. Then it's Michael Jordan's, Wayne Gretzky, Well,

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Speaker 1: golf's Jack Nicholas, boxing's Muhammad Ali. Baseball it's as a

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Speaker 1: tough one, huh. I don't know who i'd put in baseball.

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Speaker 1: Maybe let your fans put that tough. That's a tough one.

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Speaker 1: All right, So baseball, you'll get back to macy with

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Michael Jordan, Gretzky, Jack Nicholas, Ali. What sport

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Speaker 1: are we missing? This one sport? Oh? You want tennis?

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Speaker 1: All right? That's your all star team. You are great.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed talking to you. I appreciate it. I know

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Speaker 1: you have no time and you gave me some, so

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. I hope we get to meet

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Speaker 1: in person one day and I hope I get to

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Speaker 1: hear about you're dating fictitious profile, but if you had

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Speaker 1: one sentence on a dating profile, Hi, I'm Dave, all right,

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Speaker 1: I like it, trade market bye, Dave. Something. I really

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Speaker 1: enjoyed my conversation with Dave. I thought that coming in

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Speaker 1: he was a little bit hesitant, and he probably has

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Speaker 1: so many people annoying him and asking him stupid questions,

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Speaker 1: and he probably agreed to do this, and then it

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Speaker 1: comes this morning and he's like, oh, I have to

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Speaker 1: do this podcast because that's what does happen with things

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Speaker 1: like this, and it's okay. And I really felt that

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Speaker 1: throughout the course of the conversation he was being asked

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Speaker 1: questions that he doesn't normally think about, you know, about

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Speaker 1: the machinations of his business, about the way that he

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Speaker 1: makes decisions, about who he is as a person, which

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Speaker 1: is really what I'm most interested in. It's not about

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Speaker 1: what happened in the headlines last week and what did

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Speaker 1: he say to someone, And people like him sometimes get

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Speaker 1: worried ahead of time, like what is she going to

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Speaker 1: try to ask me? And I just really wanted to

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Speaker 1: get a sense of who he is because people who

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Speaker 1: are really, really successful have many differences from one another,

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Speaker 1: and there are definitely similarities that you can peg. And

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Speaker 1: there was a lot about his trajectory that I saw

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Speaker 1: in mind which was comforting and um familiar and made

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Speaker 1: me want to kind of dig deeper. So I appreciate

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Speaker 1: you listening, rate, review, and subscribe. I thought Dave Portnoy

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Speaker 1: was an excellent guest, and we just keep getting the

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Speaker 1: most incredible guests because of you and your feedback. That

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Speaker 1: was really fun and different and controversial, all of which

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Speaker 1: I love, so thank you so much. Have a great day.

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